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    chrisrat 19:53

    With the Spending Review imminent, members of the Cabinet are locked

    in rooms across Westminster this week. Nick Gibb

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    scottjacques01 20:02Traditional CPD, such as going on courses, is usually one of the first

    casualties of tight budgets #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:02If the hardware is in place it will be short-sighted to get rid of ICT

    #ukedchat

    dughall 20:02There will be some difficult choices. #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:02@chrisrat CPD must change - we have to shift to more in school

    collaborative CPD #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:02RT @mister_jim:#ukedchat Funding for ICT will go as it won't be viewed

    as integral to children's learning

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    TheHeadsOffice 20:04Governing bodies are recommended to use IT for many of their docs at

    FGB meetings. Need to keep ICT! #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:04@scottjacques01 Lots more need for e-learning courses and CPD via

    PLN? #ukedchat

    froggyval 20:04#ukedchat I am worried that Languages at primary will be sacrificed in

    the rush to economise.

    dughall 20:04@TheHeadsOffice ICT won't be got rid of, it may just slip off the agenda.

    #ukedchat

    dughall 20:05Yes, some LAs have a 'Your voice' website for suggestions. On ours

    someone suggested people go to 4/5 working hrs for 4/5 salary.

    #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:05@froggyval If ICT in primary is under threat, languages don't stand a

    chance #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:05@scottjacques01 TBH I think there's much more value to in-school CPD

    anyway #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:05RT @DianneSpencer: #ukedchat I suspect for the next 2 yrs much of the

    budget cuts will be aimed at LA costs, resulting in loss of services to

    schools.

    duckinwales 20:05#ukedchat @TheHeadsOffice yes - staff have soo many good ideas, and

    see lots of day to day waste.

    timmajor80 20:05@26mjw I saw that Guardian article too. Highlights choice between

    cutting overhead or restructuring management team #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:05Do you think there will be staff cuts? #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:05#ukedchat Was secondary Head of Eng 1980s. 1 year told no dept

    budget. Not even a sheet of paper. Somehow, of course, we muddled

    thro.

    john_at_muuua 20:06I say 'go team LBWF'... we're taking this thing to court! #ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:06 #ukedchat There will be no LA consultants for CPD - schools will have tobe creative - use internal expertise - work with neighbouring schs?

    chrisrat 20:06Should budget cuts really mean a change to the curriculum? are the two

    mutually exclusive? #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:06@chrisrat LAs will be hit hard...if they're left as LAs at all!

    Ideas_Factory 20:06#ukedchat Depending where you work-with the new pupil premium-you

    could actually be better off-inner city schools in for windfall

    TheHeadsOffice 20:06@DianneSpencer LAs are liekly to not be so prominent in 2 years poss!

    #ukedchat

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    dughall 20:06RT @chrismayoh: @scottjacques01 Lots more need for e-learning

    courses and CPD via PLN? #ukedchat Increased teacher workloads #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:07Thinking out of the box for staff structures vital now! #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:07Who will set the priorties? What - if anything - are the luxuries in

    education? #ukedchat

    colport 20:07 Learning Platforms seem to be an easy budget cut within schools / LocalAuthorities #ukedchat

    timmajor80 20:07Has anyone experienced TAs being asked to work only school hours, with

    no extra time for preparation? Or TA positions being cut? #ukedchat

    26mjw 20:07@chrisrat Much like police, it all impacts 'frontline'. Budget cuts = no

    languages or bigger classes. #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:07Finished my game if monopoly 2 grand up and 39 houses! :p #ukedchat!

    Good evening all! :)

    james_teachuk 20:07Finished my game if monopoly 2 grand up and 39 houses! :p #ukedchat!

    Good evening all! :)

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    chrisrat 20:07RT @mister_jim: #ukedchat I personally would sacrifice my PPA

    allowance to keep my TA

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    tonyparkin 20:09RT @DianneSpencer: #ukedchat Our LA has already started cuts, mainly

    grants, services such as EPs etc.

    john_at_muuua 20:09@chrisrat the curriculum will/is changing regardless. thing is we now

    don't have money for resits! #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:10@Jamesashton20 But how can language teaching be seen as a priority?

    Cost of paying a French teacher vs buying a few new projectors

    #ukedchat

    ianaddison 20:10You need someone in charge in your LA that understands what teachers

    need and that listens, we have @dfearnley #ukedchat

    froggyval 20:10#ukedchat I think i would do some cover to save others' jobs. In ireland

    public is taking 20% pay cut! Ouch!

    mister_jim 20:10@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat true.. sadly

    26mjw 20:10#ukedchat - I'm a TA and I can see my role being something that might

    suffer. Be sad, though, as I feel like I help quite a lot...

    scottjacques01 20:10In house CPD is fine as long as it is balanced with outward looking &

    collaborative approaches such as school 2 school #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:10#ukedchat having to cope without supply cover in our school.

    DrAshCasey 20:10Are advisors a luxury? Do we need a headteacher who manages and

    doesn't teach? #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:10How do you think you will motivate your staff if TAs and or PPA is cut?

    #ukedchat

    DianneSpencer 20:10RT @dughall: @chrisrat I believe organisations (not just schools) will try

    their hardest not to cut staff. #ukedchat >>True!

    dughall 20:10Don't forget the #ukedchat hashtag folks!

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:10 @chrismayoh Yeah by 50%, and that's just for starters

    TheHeadsOffice 20:10Creative thinking may save PPA. Staff are keen to keep it & will be keen

    to help I'm sure #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:10RT @TheHeadsOffice: Excellent CPD here so maybe more staff should

    get on twitter! #ukedchat

    dughall 20:10@emewalton So what CPD must be delivered F2F? #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:10@TheHeadsOffice as reported last week, schools are blocking twitter. I

    say short sighted management is worse than lack of funds #ukedchat

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    chrismayoh 20:11Interesting > RT @mister_jim: #ukedchat I personally would sacrifice my

    PPA allowance to keep my TA

    chrisrat 20:11RT @froggyval: #ukedchat I think i would do some cover to save others'

    jobs. In ireland public is taking 20% pay cut! Ouch!

    johnmclear 20:11#ukedchat Everything costs something - 7 ways to cut ICT costs -

    http://ow.ly/2TEBX - just some suggestions from yours truly

    mister_jim 20:11@james_teachuk I got a letter saying that the abolition was a lengthy

    process & they were taking this year's money... #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:11@DrAshCasey Advisors will be a memory in a year's time unfortunately

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:11RT @ianaddison: You need someone in charge in your LA that

    understands what teachers need and that listens, we have @dfearnley

    #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:11@james_teachuk #ukedchat It's on their agenda-if they can get rid of SEF

    then PPA should be a doddle-not a good move but would save tons

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:11@DrAshCasey With the workload being thrust upon Heads, teaching

    becomes marginalised #ukedchat

    johnmclear 20:12teachers > * -- #ukedchat - teachers should be the last thing to get cut.

    But don't expect educators to not go into competition w/ schools

    chrismayoh 20:12RT @timmajor80: Has anyone experienced TAs being asked to work only

    school hours, with no extra time for preparation? Or TA positions beingcut? #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:12@dughall but its a worry? Maybe someone should repeat the tweets of

    the greater mancester police and show exactly what teachers do

    #ukedchat

    colport 20:12Headteachers covering a number of schools & no PPA time? A real mixed

    bag there = speculation? #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:12@chrismayoh I would agree...Good TA worth weight in gold #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:12 one more scary thing, the big orange sign on official sites as a disclaimerfrom Mr Gove. #ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:12#ukedchat @DeputyHeadDunn I agree about inhouse cpd - but sch can

    become isolated if not careful.

    chrisrat 20:12RT @Joga5: @DrAshCasey Advisors will be a memory in a year's time

    unfortunately #ukedchat RT @colport: Learning Platforms seem to

    be an easy budget cut within schools / Local Authorities #ukedchat

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    svenhall 20:13RT @colport: Learning Platforms-100% agree. Doesn't do anything a

    decent interactive website can't except make jobs for the boys!!

    #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:13#ukedchat Schools need services-LAs alrdy slimming to non-existant-

    opens up 4 private funds to fill gap-another money making scheme by

    Toffs

    DrAshCasey 20:13@dughall @emewalton the traditional model of the off-site delivery of

    knowledge with a good lunch and an early finish #ukedchat

    colport 20:13@svenhall Learning Platform (never used by anyone in authority) was

    first casualty in my area. Basically ticked an OFSTED box ;-) #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:13@timmajor80 Have known of TAs working like that yeah! 9am-3pm

    minus an hour for lunch. Poor salary - can't attract many people

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:13RT @john_at_muuua: one more scary thing, the big orange sign on

    official sites as a disclaimer from Mr Gove. #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:13budget cuts? Saw an ofsted directive that was all about the teaching, not

    the learning. #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:13@Grevster73 That's true...but where we are cluster networking being

    pushed #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:13@scottjacques01 Agree over in house CPD but how do you afford it in

    the light of cuts? Geographically based networks? #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:13@Joga5 but with new govt, new education bill due...who's to say things

    like this aren't on the cards? #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:14@ianaddison Yep :( #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:14RT @mister_jim: controvertial for a ICT leader but I think I would rather

    have an extra teacher in any subject than extra projectors... #ukedchat

    james_teachuk 20:14@chrismayoh i've heard that about TA's know a couple who it's

    happened to! #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:14 @scottjacques01 indeed. CPD should look in all directions. #ukedchat

    ianaddison 20:14No ppa time? But I am a ppa cover teacher! Surely that'd mean lots of

    teachers out of work? #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:14@dughall #ukedchat I'm sure there is some, but I'm not sure what!

    (disclaimer, I'm elearning type, for @moderngovernor, so poss biased)....

    john_at_muuua 20:14@DrAshCasey @dughall I thought that... then realised I couldn't. we

    need a twitter champion for teachers! #ukedchat

    dughall 20:14@DrAshCasey Not a bad idea! #ukedchat

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    james_teachuk 20:14@mister_jim ah! didnt read the bit about taking this years money!

    robbers! lol so they get a pay off when it's aboloshed! #ukedchat

    colport 20:14Huge saving potential in education = GET RID OF OFSTED - Would make

    many very happy! #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:14controvertial for a ICT leader but I think I would rather have an extra

    teacher in any subject than extra projectors... #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:14Huge amount of speculation @colport but sometimes easier to discuss

    the hypothetical rather than the harshness of actuals #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:14I have seen some amazingly creative ideas here so staff have the

    answers! Must stress that they are involved in budgeting #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:15RT @timmajor80: Any good ways to ensure that inhouse CPD is high

    quality? #ukedchat

    26mjw 20:15@chrismayoh @timmajor80 Thats my hours. Work school hours, but I'm

    not pupil specific. The pay sucks too, but its not why I do it. #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:15RT @colport: Huge saving potential in education = GET RID OF OFSTED -

    Would make many very happy! #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:15Someone on radio today said that reducing MPs to 200 would solve the

    debt problem. Time to get real #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:15@ianaddison lol progressing TA's to HLTA's means i'm outta work as

    supply! #ukedchat

    primarypete_ 20:15Really interesting #ukedchat so far. Diff schools will prioritise diff. Ppa

    gone and assoc staff then TA's is my guess.Not my opinion though

    DrAshCasey 20:15@DeputyHeadDunn but can it be marganlised under the potential new

    cuts? #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:15RT @mister_jim: I would rather have an extra teacher in any subject than

    extra projectors... #ukedchat < with you on that one

    StevePincher 20:15 LA services will be greatly slimmed down, with advisory services beingfully traded... only if schools value them #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:15Exactly! > > RT @TheHeadsOffice: Using clusters for staff training would

    reduce costs as would sharing expertise #ukedchat

    timmajor80 20:15Any good ways to ensure that inhouse CPD is high quality? #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:15@chrismayoh THe small amount of extra time TAs were given never

    covered their hours Most want to do that little bit extra #ukedchat

    dughall 20:16@sciencelabman @DrAshCasey #ukedchat Just for 1 day, a tweeter

    tweets updates from your classroom showing just how hard it is! cf Mn'

    olice

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    ianaddison 20:16@chrisrat reducing MPs to 0 would be better #ukedchat

    james_teachuk 20:16RT @chrismayoh: Exactly! > > RT @TheHeadsOffice: Using clusters for

    staff training would reduce costs as would sharing expertise #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:16@Grevster73 #ukedchat @DeputyHeadDunn That's where the

    #TeachMeet model becomes a good basis for CPD & the need for

    clusters & focus rou s

    chrismayoh 20:16@26mjw A good attitude, but people need to make ends meet

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:16Interesting. PPA seems to be the first on people's list to trim. #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:16RT @chrismayoh: Exactly! > > RT @TheHeadsOffice: Using clusters for

    staff training would reduce costs as would sharing expertise #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:16@Ideas_Factory I see a chance for cooperative support via spaces like

    twitter. Just think what teach meets are doing! #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:16@chrisrat So would people agree to getting rid of 1265 hours, PPA and

    workforce reform to aid school improvement in time of cuts? #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:16@DrAshCasey I think all Heads should teach...but something else has to

    give if they do for any length of time #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:16@DrAshCasey @scottjacques01 still believe that teachers are the least

    tapped resource. We're too busy doing the job to deliver CPD #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:16RT @mister_jim: controvertial for a ICT leader but I think I would rather

    have an extra teacher in any subject than extra projectors... #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:17weird situation. My daughter's school was first on the BSF programme.

    the school made an 'imaginary school' bid, and got the lot #ukedchat

    Kenny73 20:17@chrisrat @dughall @chrismayoh why squeeze teaching assistants

    when co-op less likely? Wld middle management not make more sense?

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:17 @ianaddison you dictator you... #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:17#ukedchat our borough has also made all courses half day or bring you

    own lunch

    VGoodyear 20:17@colport but would getting rid of OFSTED reduce standards and support

    to suffering schools? do we need schools to be assesed? #ukedchat

    james_teachuk 20:17RT @TheHeadsOffice: @Ideas_Factory I see a chance for cooperative

    support via spaces like twitter. Just think what teach meets are doing!

    #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:17RT @TheHeadsOffice: @Ideas_Factory I see a chance for cooperative

    support via spaces like twitter. Just think what teach meets are doing!

    #ukedchat

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    colport 20:17@timmajor80: Any good ways to ensure that inhouse CPD is high

    quality? #ukedchat

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    Jamesashton20 20:18I've been in a school recently where they dont have PPA because the

    start half hour later and finish half hour earlier everyday! #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:18@DrAshCasey @dughall I think making more use of tech could

    dramatically reduce training costs......(cont) #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:18meanwhile, my own school, literally down the road, will be lucky to have

    the toilets painted. #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:18@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat Completely agree-I'm thinking about all the

    schools without visionary SMT that have still got their heads in sand

    chrisrat 20:18please remember to keep the #ukedchat hastag in your tweets!

    Grevster73 20:18RT @colport: @timmajor80: Any good ways to ensure that inhouse CPD

    is high quality? #ukedchat

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    chrisrat 20:20How small should a school be before the Head Teacher teaches full time?

    #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:20@DrAshCasey Most definitely... #ukedchat

    mooshtang 20:20Please don't take my PPA time away! Don't know if I could do all these

    creative ideas I am trying without time to plan and reflect.#ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:20Just lost 7 mins of #ukedchat to router playing silly *&^%$$ - lost track

    now.

    SusanElkinJourn 20:20@james_teachuk #ukedchat Is that legal?

    colport 20:20@TheHeadsOffice @VGoodyear Perhaps OFSTED remit should be

    changed to be more supportive, rather than trying to catch schools out

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:20My word, 20 mins in already - another #ukedchat question coming up!

    emewalton 20:20@DrAshCasey @dughall ....leaving more budget more school/area-

    specific issues/needs #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:21RT @chrisrat: How small should a school be before the Head Teacher

    teaches full time? #ukedchat

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    john_at_muuua 20:22embed OFSTED in schools. make them part of the team, and let them

    model good practice like we do for kids #ukedchat

    VGoodyear 20:22why do we have non teaching heads and deputy's even for small no of

    lessons? i believe this shouldnt occur anyway, lead by eg #ukedchat

    dughall 20:22@emewalton I agree. Tech is woefully unexploited in too many settings.

    Also, not enough made of open source solutions. #ukedchat

    MoreThanMaths 20:22Trying to talk to my Mum on the phone and keep up with #ukedchat a bit

    tricky! Mono-tasking now!

    chrisrat 20:22@bevevans22 @colport @timmajor80 re arranging within school

    groups: aren't they mini LAs?! #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:22@cleverfiend Yes very expensive...but if good well worth it #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:22Are we heading for a situation where only Math, Literacy, Science, RE

    and PE are taught? All subjects are important! #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:22Devil's advocate - some PPA time is not used efficiently so it may be

    under threat in those schools #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:22@VGoodyear @colport do we need OFSTED to help sort the wheat from

    the chaff? Could they identiy weak teachers and reduce the bill

    #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:23@chrismayoh haha! it was a squeeze trying to get everything in!

    #ukedchat. just about managed! :P

    cleverfiend 20:23@Kenny73 how does being paperless tie in with poor literacy skills? How

    will SEN students fit into this? #ukedchat

    stevecrowther 20:23RT @colport: Huge saving potential in education = GET RID OF OFSTED -

    Would make many very happy! #ukedchat

    dughall 20:23RT @colport: Potential savings? Could LA Education departments be

    merged over larger region? #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:23 RT @colport: @VGoodyear Perhaps OFSTED remit should be changed tobe supportive, rather than trying to catch schools out #ukedchat >Yes!

    dukkhaboy 20:23#ukedchat save money make all pupils have one day a week work from

    home

    DianneSpencer 20:23@chrisrat #ukedchat so how do you square 50+ hours of management

    time required each week with an additional 23 hrs teaching in class?

    colport 20:23@DrAshCasey I think competent head-teachers could do that #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:23RT @VGoodyear: why do we have non teaching heads and deputy's even

    for small no of lessons? i believe this shouldnt occur anyway, lead by eg

    #ukedchat

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    SusanElkinJourn 20:23@chrisrat #ukedchat Small rural primaries (fewer than 100 pupils) seem,

    to manage with a f/t or near f/t teaching head in Kent at least.

    Jamesashton20 20:23@TheHeadsOffice that sounds good! local high school to me starts at

    8.30 and finish at 2.30 everyday! #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:23@DeputyHeadDunn @Jamesashton20 I think it's a struggle to fit the

    curriculum into the day we've got, never mind making it shorter!

    #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:23@VGoodyear alas I feel you are right. But what about the olympic

    legacy? SHould we be writing cheques for the 2018 Football WC?

    #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:23RT @colport: Potential savings? Could LA Education departments be

    merged over larger region? #ukedchatNEVER! They have to have time!

    chrisrat 20:24I know many schools where there are virtually full time HTs with fewer

    than 75 pupils @SusanElkinJourn #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:24@emewalton @dughall but we need to maintain and develop CPD not

    just count it as a expendable ... we must invest in staff #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:24RT @Kenny73: In time of budget cuts, wld going paperless not make

    more sense despite initial outlay? Knock on skills benefit #ukedchat AYE!

    katie_hague 20:24@colport Think 2 London LAs have merged some departments , makes

    sense for some departments but keeping track financially tricky?

    #ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:24RT @bevevans22: RT @colport: @timmajor80: Any good ways to ensure

    that inhouse CPD is high quality? #ukedchat

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    TheHeadsOffice 20:25RT @colport: @bevevans22 If one head-teacher was in charge of a few

    schools, this (CPD between schools) would be achievable #ukedchat

    >A ree

    iteachyear4 20:25RT @DrAshCasey: but we need to maintain and develop CPD not just

    count it as a expendable ... we must invest in staff #ukedchat

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    DeputyHeadDunn 20:26@Jokprice Oh they're worth their weight in gold too ;) #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:26@Jokprice Fair point, well made! #ukedchat

    timmajor80 20:26Presumably, with the push to move to academy status, heads could

    become busier still... #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:26#ukedchat RT @Kenny73: In time of budget cuts, wld going paperless not

    make sense despite initial outlay? Knock on skills benefit < yes pls

    john_at_muuua 20:26@DrAshCasey @emewalton @dughall 'must invest in staff'... so say we

    all #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:27#ukedchat How many of us, when budgets are tight, end up dipping into

    our own pockets for necessary resources? I dread to think...

    ITsmartie 20:27Spent day at the national governor services conference. Some very

    worried hard working teacher support professionals losing jobs

    #ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:27RT @dukkhaboy: #ukedchat save money don't let DfE/exam boards to

    change curricula AT ALL for 5 years, then we don't have to spend time

    and mone re lannin

    VGoodyear 20:27i agree, but some form of standardisation, assesment, monitoring still

    needs to occur.. LA? good head support colport @DrAshCasey

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:27@dughall @drashcasey how do you motivate your staff in cash-strapped

    times? #ukedchat

    dughall 20:27If you have to decide between some CPD or the TA what's the choice

    going to be folks? #ukedchat (Devil's advocate)

    colport 20:27@Jamesashton20 I take your point, but it would have to be carefully

    managed by head-teacher #ukedchat (@bevevans22 )

    Jamesashton20 20:27how about charging 1 per pupil per day? #ukedchat?

    iteachyear4 20:27 If schools share more, what will the incentive for schools to share ifothers are going to give them stuff? #ukedchat

    svenhall 20:27School will save money by paying decent voluntary redundancies to staff

    who wish to take it and employ newer #edchat #ukedchat #edtech

    dukkhaboy 20:27#ukedchat save money don't let DfE/exam boards to change curricula AT

    ALL for 5 years, then we don't have to spend time and money replanning

    chrismayoh 20:28All the time!>RT @bevevans22: #ukedchat How many of us, when

    budgets are tight, end up dipping into our own pockets for necessary

    resources?

    trudianns 20:28RT @trudianns: @sciencelabman as well as sharing expertise in school

    we need to share it in clusters #ukedchat

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    dughall 20:28Oh gawd #tmsunderland is starting up again. Brain might actually

    explode now :-) #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:28@iteachyear4 not giving... sharing. Isn't that the definition of

    partnerships? #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:28@svenhall #ukedchat Can't make teaching staff redundant and then

    employ newbies in same role -aganst law

    chrisrat 20:28RT @dughall: If you have to decide between some CPD or the TA what's

    the choice going to be folks? #ukedchat (Devil's advocate)

    TheHeadsOffice 20:28Much of the work HTs do should be centred around self evaluation which

    takes time! #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:28@john_at_muuua @VGoodyear b ut we made pledges...and will do

    again if me get the WC 2018 ... can we afford it? #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:28RT @Jamesashton20: how about charging 1 per pupil per day?

    #ukedchat RT @dughall: If you have to decide between some CPD or

    the TA what's the choice going to be folks? #ukedchat (Devil's advocate)

    chrisrat 20:29@bevevans22 Average spend per primary teacher out of their own

    pocket 123 per year - that's just on books #ukedchat that's before

    cuts!

    DianneSpencer 20:29@chrisrat #ukedchat what paperwork needs cutting? risk assessments

    fmsis, health/ safety audit, annual audit,workforce census, peeps, lots!

    sciencelabman 20:29@bevevans22 did it today buying resources for a lesson, if it makes my

    lesson better i will do it. #ukedchat

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    duckinwales 20:29@svenhall Schools will save money by paying voluntary redundancies to

    staff who wish to take it and employ newer #ukedchat < good idea? yes

    john_at_muuua 20:29@sciencelabman which is what OFSTED should be doing. lead by

    example. #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:29@chrisrat lmao! jsut charging them to come to school! :P #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:29RT @Jokprice: @chrisrat #ukedchat what's a deputy head? we have

    never been able to afforded one!>I had one for a year out of 13!

    iteachyear4 20:30@john_at_muuua It is-but what about schools that aren't run 'well'.

    What happens to them when they don't pull their weight? #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:30@dughall @emewalton we invest in the value of staff and therefore

    make them feel valuable..we work harder when offered the carrot

    #ukedchat

    deerwood 20:30@DianneSpencer @chrisrat I'd like to add performance management to

    the list of things to cut #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:30@colport lol yeh, but favoritism comes into that too. head i witness was

    head of other school then became big head#ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:30RT @sciencelabman: we also need to use etc our expertise in our own

    schools far more, sharing good practice, ideas....just like we do here!

    #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:30@chrisrat @Jamesashton20 cf student tuition fees. 10 next year and

    full cost by end of a decade. #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:30RT @Jamesashton20: @chrisrat lmao! jsut charging them to come to

    school! :P #ukedchat

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    VGoodyear 20:31@TheHeadsOffice @colport the support should be there all the time as

    when schools r in spec measures not just assesment of scools #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:31@DianneSpencer My old school had 89 pupils, and HT worked full time.

    We seem to have added lots of layers of work.to what benefit?

    #ukedchat

    katie_hague 20:31@colport Re joining LA departments, we have v big authorities that work

    well, so think could merge some. #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:31@john_at_muuua But invest how? What? @DrAshCasey @dughall

    #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:31@mister_jim @svenhall ok apologies for my comment on charging

    children, #ukedchat

    Arakwai 20:31RT @sciencelabman: @bevevans22 did it today buying resources for a

    lesson, if it makes my lesson better i will do it. #ukedchat -> Ditto :-(

    colport 20:31@Jamesashton20 I thought that was part of being a head-teacher LOL

    #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:31@svenhall Too many new teachers (NQTs) mean loss of experience

    #ukedchat

    dughall 20:31@chrisrat I'm not sure staff motivation is really such an issue. Dunkirk

    spirit & all that. @drashcasey #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:32@Ideas_Factory @dughall #ukedchat Good Staff vs Good Staff

    development. Hard call. Depends on the need of the school

    iteachyear4 20:32@chrisrat Totally agree. When our new school opens there are 5 layers

    BEFORE teachers! #ukedchat

    trudianns 20:32schools need to develop as learning communities each person is

    responsible for their own learning and how they choose to do it

    #ukedchat

    Kenny73 20:32@cleverfiend can literacy skills only be developed by writing in a jotter?

    I'd argue there is plenty of evidence to the contrary #ukedchat

    MoreThanMaths 20:32 RT @dukkhaboy: #ukedchat save money don't let DfE/exam boards tochange curricula AT ALL for 5 years, then we don't have to spend time

    and mone re lannin

    svenhall 20:32RT @Ideas_Factory: @svenhall #ukedchat Can't make teaching staff

    redundant and then employ newbies in same role -aganst law.Time for

    chan e!

    Jamesashton20 20:32@SusanElkinJourn @chrisrat #ukedchat@mister_jim

    #ukedchat@svenhall uni fees R going up w/ the ave now being 30,000

    on leavin #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:32@Kenny73 #ukedchat Agreed but I think experience and ability is crucial-

    should never have introduced HLTA-leading to a drop in standards

    dptidman 20:32Are schools ready for peer supporting? Remember LIG! Support your

    local primary! Whats the incentive in a compeititive world?#ukedchat

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    Lorainaq 20:32Well.. Much of the work HTs do should be centred around self evaluation

    which takes time! #ukedchat !!

    SusanElkinJourn 20:32@DianneSpencer @chrisrat #ukedchat When I started we did 1 report

    per child per yr and 2x daily register. Nothing else.

    james_teachuk 20:33some schools earn additional money through fundraising events or hiring

    out the school building?#ukedchat

    deerwood 20:33@chrisrat That certainly seems to be the case here in Gloucestershire

    #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:33@chrismayoh Yes please #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:33some schools earn additional money through fundraising events or hiring

    out the school building?#ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:33@iteachyear4 it's about the individuals, not the schools. we don't tweet

    because SLT told us to. #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:33@mister_jim Good development=good staff #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:33@chrisrat Spending on items to enrich learning is one thing. What about

    when it gets spent on things that are running out? #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:33RT @trudianns: schools need to develop as learning communities each

    person is responsible for their own learning and how they choose to do it#ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:33@chrisrat #ukedchat How long Head been there-Most small school/rural

    heads do teach-most new posts have this in advert

    john_at_muuua 20:33@iteachyear4 it's like any partnership. If it don't work, wither try and fix

    it or don't bother. #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:33One to one tuition to go? #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:33 @chrisrat @DianneSpencer Perhaps the paperwork has expanded tooccupy the postholders. Variation on Parkinson's law? #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:33Are there any other resources apart from staff that could go? #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:33How long will the Dunkirk spirit last though? I fear we will lose some

    good people particularly Prim HTs in next few years #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:33RT @SusanElkinJourn: @DianneSpencer @chrisrat #ukedchat When I

    started we did 1 report per child per yr and 2x daily register. Nothing

    else.

    chrisrat 20:33Do you think cuts will make your school think about becoming an

    academy? #ukedchat

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    mister_jim 20:34RT @dawnhallybone: sharing is way 4ward i feel - resources, time,

    expertise it's what we do here so why not in schools #ukedchat

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    deerwood 20:35@TheHeadsOffice schools could start selling off their playing fields once

    more #ukedchat

    dughall 20:35RT @trudianns: schools need to develop as learning communities each

    person is responsible for their own learning and how they choose to do it

    #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:35@svenhall #ukedchat You're joking-how's about u lose ur job cos u cost

    too much-to be replaced by a 'cheaper' teacher-if that model-chaos

    timmajor80 20:35@chrisrat or does the move to academy status seem even more

    daunting with cuts on the horizon? #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:35@john_at_muuua Agree, but partnerships would require SLT backing

    wouldn't they? I'm all for it btw!! #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:35@sciencelabman agree. But it's also the forum. Does twitter work for

    CPD? I doubt it, but it's close. #ukedchat

    cleverfiend 20:36One huge outgoing for 2ry schools are exam fees - surprised no-one has

    mentioned these! #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:36@TheHeadsOffice Nope. Unfortunately #ukedchat

    dptidman 20:36We have to address the 'what's in it for me' if we are going to encourage

    sharing, benevolence wont go on for ever #ukedchat

    james_teachuk 20:36RT @Joga5: @bevevans22 It is something like 20 million a year spent

    by teachers for their own classes #ukedchat >>IKEA is cheaper than YPO!

    Jamesashton20 20:36RT @Joga5: @bevevans22 It is something like 20 million a year spent

    by teachers for their own classes #ukedchat >>IKEA is cheaper than YPO!

    sciencelabman 20:36@trudianns isnt that true personalized learning! but pupils need to take

    responsibility for their learning, great idea. #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:36@chrisrat not convinced 'institutional' partnerships work. The personal

    element is needed to add motivation. #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:36 RT @Joga5: @bevevans22 It is something like 20 million a year spentby teachers for their own classes #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:36One secondary school I heard about recently would have gained (net)

    400k from opting out of LA control #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:36Are all TAs used effectively? #ukedchat

    wendyJR 20:36interesting reading views on TAs :) #ukedchat

    Elmlea1981 20:36Missed #ukedchat tonight due to governors. Promise to read up over

    the weekend. Hope it's going well x

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    Jamesashton20 20:36RT @Joga5: @bevevans22 It is something like 20 million a year spent

    by teachers for their own classes #ukedchat >wow that much?

    Ideas_Factory 20:36@dughall #ukedchat Crudely agreed ;^)

    mister_jim 20:36@Jamesashton20 no need to apologise! It's a great talking point!

    #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:36RT @chrisrat: How about schools providing services to cluster schools?

    ICT support for example? #ukedchat

    katie_hague 20:36@chrisrat We've done that here with vle support. Each school paid

    amount to 'lead' school which covered their supply. #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:36@Jamesashton20 Has been bits of both. Ultimately all from govt so

    makes little difference. Bound to go either way #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:37Secondaries could act as broker for local clusters for resources & training

    maybe? #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:37@Ideas_Factory @svenhall agree, but at the other end we have staff

    killing time waiting to retire = poor teaching & frustration #ukedchat

    raff31 20:37Lots of money has been spent on change (for change sake?) Change is

    therefore good. Things have not been allowed to develop #ukedchat

    VGoodyear 20:37@ deerwood @TheHeadsOffice selling off playing fields?? physical

    education? #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:37@Joga5 @Jamesashton20 It's madness though isn't it? That's a huge

    amount of money!!! I am gobsmacked (and yet not if you get me )

    #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:37@emewalton @dughall innovation may make CPD more effective. The

    end of unimaginative (well a reduction) training days #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:37RT @dptidman: We have to address the 'what's in it for me' if we are

    going to encourage sharing, benevolence wont go on for ever #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:37 @Jamesashton20 @Joga5 @bevevans22 yep, that's my Year 9 alright.#ukedchat

    deerwood 20:37has any primary school considered farming out their ICT to a third party

    provider? #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:37RT @katie_hague: @chrisrat We've done that here with vle support.

    Each school paid amount to 'lead' school which covered their supply.

    #ukedchat

    Elmlea1981 20:37@bevevans22 #ukedchat I always do! I've spent far too much this term

    but hey ho! Needs must

    mister_jim 20:38RT @DeputyHeadDunn: @mister_jim Good development=good staff

    #ukedchat

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    Jamesashton20 20:38@mister_jim oops lol thought i'd upset someone! :P #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:38@john_at_muuua twitter is the best , and most value for money CPD

    i've ever had. amazing people with amazing experience/ideas .#ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:38@cleverfiend er... I did. resits cost, and right here's where they start

    paying. #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:38#ukedchat No school is an island. Not healthy to pretend otherwise.

    Interschool collaboration vital for pupil learning, efficiency & CPD

    trudianns 20:38@james_teachuk we hire it from the company who own it, they

    maintain it and after 25 years they hand the building over to the LA

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:38Are there any other ways that schools are trying to find more money for

    budgets? #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:38@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat Is every

    CPD,teacher,resource,book,pen,desk or space in school used

    effectivel ?No-so where could we save mone ?

    iteachyear4 20:38Does the education of the children ever get thought of when discussing

    the proposed cuts? #ukedchat

    drkeevil 20:38RT @bevevans22: #ukedchat How many of us, when budgets are tight,

    end up dipping into our own pockets for necessary resources? I dread to

    think...

    dawnhallybone 20:38@barton1875 they will make the tests 20% easier to pass #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:39@TheHeadsOffice Where would the money to pay for secondary school

    to act as brokers? #ukedchat

    james_teachuk 20:39@trudianns ah right understood, thanks for that! :)#ukedchat

    svenhall 20:39RT @TheHeadsOffice: @svenhall Too many new teachers (NQTs) mean

    loss of experience #ukedchat

    ICanTeach_uk 20:39 RT @chrisrat: One secondary schl I heard about recently would havegained (net) 400k from opting out of LA control #ukedchat nice work

    SusanElkinJourn 20:39RT @TheHeadsOffice: Secondaries could act as broker for local clusters

    for resources & training maybe? #ukedchat

    misslpitkethly 20:39Teachmeets are good and free CPD #ukedchat

    trudianns 20:39@sciencelabman the teachers could lead by example and at times learn

    alongside the pupils?? #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:39@SusanElkinJourn Agree with that totally. #ukedchat

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    Joga5 20:39@bevevans22 I was in York today delivering and ended up missing lunch

    to spend 45 in Waterstones!!!! #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:39Moving slightly away from personnel - what *services* will suffer?

    Residentials? #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:39RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat No school is an island. Not healthy to

    pretend otherwise. Interschool collaboration vital for pupil learning,

    efficienc & CPD

    chrismayoh 20:40Attacks on NQTs and HLTAs are unfair. What about those paid on upper

    pay scales who refuse to keep up with the trends? Time to go! #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:40RT @geraldhaigh1: When I was a ch of gov, primary, head spent a year

    teaching almost ft to solve a problem. Leadership suffered, glad when it

    ended. #ukedchat

    ICTtower 20:40The only course we have been allowed to go on are exam board courses.

    All other CPD courses have to be fought and argued for #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:40@raff31 Politicians fear that time for embedding will be presented by

    opposition as inactivity. Change is often politically driven #ukedchat

    trudianns 20:40@james_teachuk not as glam as it sounds though! #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:40#ukedchat Salary 2/3 of school budget-only place to cut #Condems

    already doing-wage 1st then pension.Squeeze us 1 end-bleed us dry

    at'other!

    duckinwales 20:40#ukedchat @chrisrat Full cost recovery training for local business?

    MoreThanMaths 20:40@chrisrat #ukedchat Most trips/residentials paid for by students anyway

    at 2ndary. Not sure that would be affected.

    mister_jim 20:40@Jamesashton20 #ukedchat not me fella!!

    SusanElkinJourn 20:40RT @dptidman: We have to address the 'what's in it for me' if we are

    going to encourage sharing, benevolence wont go on for ever #ukedchat

    geraldhaigh1 20:40 When I was a ch of gov, primary, head spent a year teaching almost ft tosolve a problem. Leadership suffered, glad when it ended. #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:40@mister_jim ooh, I was good at algebra at school. If you take a + over a

    = it becomes a - #ukedchat

    Kenny73 20:40@cleverfiend I agree, but think there's an over reliance and a neglect of

    already well developed skills. Surely savings? #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:40@misslpitkethly can teachmeets be done online? #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:40RT @chrisrat: One secondary school I heard about recently would have

    gained (net) 400k from opting out of LA control #ukedchat

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    DeputyHeadDunn 20:40@trudianns You could call that good teaching... #ukedchat

    deerwood 20:40@trees2066 thinking more of ICT companies such as RM, Logica, Capita,

    European Electronique ... ala BSF providers #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:41@chrisrat Depends on individual schools I think. Our school won't be

    cutting residentials. Too big a priority for our kids #ukedchat

    ICanTeach_uk 20:41weighing up the gains and losses of trust status and LA control - time to

    tighten the belts me thinks any income is good income #ukedchat

    dughall 20:41RT @misslpitkethly: Teachmeets are good and free CPD #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:41@duckinwales #ukedchat Thats what capability is for-bloody difficult to

    get rid of crap teachers-if private sector would just be sacked!

    duckinwales 20:41#ukedchat @john_at_muuua @misslpitkethly last night's #tmhhs was

    online as well as physical, and many sent in videos

    Grevster73 20:41RT @sciencelabman: @trudianns could not agree more, we are . should

    be learning educators alongside our pupils.#ukedchat

    VGoodyear 20:41RT @chrismayoh: Attacks on NQTs and HLTAs are unfair. What about

    those paid on upper pay scales who refuse to keep up with the trends?

    Time to o! #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:41@MoreThanMaths Do you think that parents will be able to afford to dip

    into their pockets again? #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:41Local primaries have saved money by sharing business managers who do

    some of @diannespencer list so win/win #ukedchat

    deerwood 20:41@dptidman not sure that's the issue, most teachers seem not to share as

    they don't see value in what they have to offer #ukedchat

    26mjw 20:41RT @chrismayoh: Attacks on NQTs and HLTAs are unfair. What about

    those paid on upper pay scales who refuse to keep up with the trends?

    Time to o! #ukedchat

    ianaddison 20:41 Fancy voting for the next #ukedchat topic? Go on...http://ukedchat.wikispaces.com/poll

    sciencelabman 20:41@trudianns could not agree more, we are . should be learning educators

    alongside our pupils.#ukedchat

    ebd35 20:41@bevevans22 late entry AGAIN! What is ? of #ukedchat tonight (&what

    is best way of following?)

    iteachyear4 20:42@SusanElkinJourn Good idea, but then would you need to employ

    someone to find sponsorship? #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:42@ICanTeach_uk at this point in time that is so true.#ukedchat

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    dughall 20:42@john_at_muuua @misslpitkethly There is a teachmeet online right

    now! http://bit.ly/9luGCN #tmsunderland #ukedchat

    VGoodyear 20:42@chrismayoh a pathway for new devlopments to get into schools

    #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:42@ICTtower #ukedchat - thats grim : (

    missbrownsword 20:42I have too much to do to join in #ukedchat tonight, will find the link for

    the summary later and hope you're all having a good one!

    iteachyear4 20:42Do NQTs bring in lots of new ideas? Is experience more important than

    new ideas? Which is more important? #ukedchat

    svenhall 20:42RT @Ideas_Factory: @svenhall #ukedchat ----key words were voluntary

    and decent. I would with a decent package. Spend time with family.

    TheHeadsOffice 20:42RT @iteachyear4: @TheHeadsOffice Where would the money to pay for

    secondary school to act as brokers? #ukedchat>Haven't they got tons! ;)

    james_teachuk 20:42RT @dughall: RT @misslpitkethly: Teachmeets are good and free CPD

    #ukedchat

    SkoorBttaM 20:42I'm not a fan of the major cuts but I definitely think schools could be

    more efficient with money #ukedchat

    trees2066 20:42@deerwood We get great ICT support from local secondary who provide

    for 4 schools locally - good size business model, #ukedchat not 2 big!

    mister_jim 20:42RT @Joga5: @raff31 Politicians fear that time for embedding will be

    presented by opposition as inactivity. Change is often politically driven

    #ukedchat

    emewalton 20:42RT @sciencelabman: @john_at_muuua twitter is the best and most

    value for money CPD..amazing people with amazing experience/ideas

    .#ukedchat

    lynnemcc3 20:42@bevevans22 #ukedchat Do you mean that there are some who aren't

    already buying their own materials? I must be a mug!

    chrisrat 20:42 Two thirds of the way through. #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:42@Joga5 Waterstones. That'sa dangerous place for a teacher to be. Bit

    like Staples., Ikea & the online 'threat' of Amazon...#ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:42@iteachyear4 @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat Sponsorship?

    schmanctk 20:43@cleverfiend exam fees have rocketed in our school, huge sums now

    going out #Ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:43RT @iteachyear4: Do NQTs bring in lots of new ideas? Is experience

    more important than new ideas? Which is more important? #ukedchat

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    DrAshCasey 20:43@ICTtower what a shame! #ukedchat

    Jokprice 20:43@VGoodyear #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:43Schools are sitting on cash reserves of nearly 2 billion #ukedchat

    http://chrisr.at/cPgm3k

    trudianns 20:43RT @chrismayoh. What about those paid on upper pay scales who refuse

    to keep up with the trends? Time to go! #ukedchat >absolutely!

    Jamesashton20 20:43RT @chrismayoh: Attacks on NQTs and HLTAs are unfair. What about

    those paid on upper pay scales who refuse to keep up with the trends?

    Time to o! #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:43RT @emewalton: RT @sciencelabman: @john_at_muuua twitter is the

    best and most value for money CPD..amazing people with amazing

    ex erience ideas .#ukedchat

    SkoorBttaM 20:43Why do things have to be ordered from a catalogue when you can find

    the same thing online for half the price?!! #ukedchat

    katie_hague 20:43Heard of 3 LAs cutting ed psych / SEN support back to statutory

    requirement - will mean about half current time. #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:43@chrismayoh Are 'trends' necessarily good? #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:43Some inflammatory stats coming up #ukedchat

    dptidman 20:43Did a teechmeet in a school with few 'volunteers' from outside, big

    impact never seen staff so busy, real world stuff. #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:43@ebd35 Twitterfall or Tweetdeck works okay. Did you not bash yourself

    over the head with a cricket bat? #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:43Should parents be consulted on where the axe should fall? #ukedchat

    schmanctk 20:43 RT @cleverfiend: One huge outgoing for 2ry schools are exam fees -surprised no-one has mentioned these! #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:44@SusanElkinJourn Maybe it's the wrong word. Policy, then. Rules. The

    norm. All flawed, but agree or not, you've got to play ball #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:44RT @colport: My fears of educational savings is also centred on pension

    cuts :-( #ukedchat

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    ianaddison 20:44@iteachyear4 some nqts do, but lots are too busy trying to cope with

    huge pressure to have any influence #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:44@iteachyear4 it's all about the balance.#ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:44@lynnemcc3 I know of a few teachers who don't & others who spend

    out every week. But many feel they have to - which is sad really

    #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:44@TheHeadsOffice That would be controversial!! #ukedchat

    esoldaveglasgow 20:44#ukedchat Visit HMIe (Scotland) for what might be a more supportive

    model of regulatory body. http://bit.ly/aTtwx7

    geraldhaigh1 20:44@chrisrat Worth taking time to look for cash generators. Car parking for

    football is a bonanza for those in the right place. #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:44Schools could save over 400 million a year if they bought equipment

    and services more sensibly http://chrisr.at/cPgm3k #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:44@skoorBttaM I'm not a fan of the cuts but I definitely think schools could

    be more efficient with money #ukedchat < couldn't agree more

    Jamesashton20 20:44RT @Ideas_Factory: @duckinwales #ukedchat bloody difficult 2 get rid of

    crap teachers-if private sector wld just B sacked! > AGREE!

    jessamacookie 20:44As NQT struggling to find a job, feel not being given chance to gain any

    RT 'Too many new teachers (NQTs) mean loss of experience' #ukedchat

    Jokprice 20:44RT @chrismayoh: Attacks on NQTs and HLTAs are unfair. What about

    those paid on upper pay scales who refuse to keep up with the trends?

    Time to o! #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:44Scroll down, down a bit more...bit further.That's it -the UK is no 46 in list

    of spend on education by GDP http://chrisr.at/cLIcpN #ukedchat

    colport 20:44My fears of educational savings is also centred on pension cuts :-(

    #ukedchat

    dughall 20:45 RT @chrisrat: Scroll down, down a bit more...bit further.That's it -the UKis no 46 in list of spend on education by GDP http://chrisr.at/cLIcpN

    #ukedchat

    raff31 20:45@Joga5 I would love to watch the meetings that came up with, for

    example, Lit Hour for Y1 and said "this is a great idea!" #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:45@iteachyear4 #ukedchat NQTs are least creative/risk takers-need alot of

    support to come up with new ideas-need those with a few yrs exp

    26mjw 20:45RT @Joga5: @iteachyear4 There was research 3 years ago said more

    impact from teachers in 1st 3 years of teaching than when late in career

    #ukedchat

    dughall 20:45#ukedchat #teachmeet is an excellent/free model but needs to widen

    beyond those 'in the know'.

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    cleverfiend 20:45@schmanctk I should invoice Edexcel for setting all their assignments

    and marking them for them - yet they charge 80 per pupil #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:45#ukedchat grrr... am 7 mins behind the thread. Desperately trying to

    catch up

    Jamesashton20 20:45@Grevster73 A balance of experience and new ideas! #ukedchat

    Grevster73 20:45@iteachyear4 #ukedchat we need a good balance in any school, fresh

    blood always essential, someone with good ideas + someone with

    ex erience

    chrisrat 20:45RT @geraldhaigh1: @chrisrat Worth taking time to look for cash

    generators. Car parking for football is a bonanza for those in the right

    lace. #ukedchat

    ianaddison 20:45RT @skoorBttaM Why do things have to be ordered from a catalogue

    when you can find the same thing online for half the price?!! #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:45@iteachyear4 Has to be a balance NQTs /experienced staff but the key is

    passion & energy! #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:45@TheHeadsOffice Haha - yeah I forgot - all that money they've saved on

    leaving their buildings to fall down they're rolling in it! #ukedchat

    trees2066 20:46Think that education can do more for less if LA cuts mean less

    interference... Too often LAs are blockers, not enablers. #ukedchat

    ModernGovernor 20:46RT @chrisrat: Scroll down, down a bit more...bit further.That's it -the UK

    is no 46 in list of spend on education by GDP http://chrisr.at/cLIcpN#ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:46RT @ianaddison: RT @skoorBttaM Why do things have to be ordered

    from a catalogue when you can find the same thing online for half the

    rice?!! #ukedchat

    schmanctk 20:46RT @DianneSpencer: @chrisrat #ukedchat what paperwork needs

    cutting? risk assessments fmsis, health/ safety audit, annual

    audit workforce census ee s lots!

    SusanElkinJourn 20:46@iteachyear4 #ukedchat Not inevitable. I wrote a how-to guide re

    sponsorship yrs ago and there are other ways.

    chrisrat 20:46 RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @SkoorBttaM: Why do things have to beordered from a catalogue when you can find the same thing >at the

    ound sho !! #ukedchat

    colport 20:46@duckinwales I had to buy more expensive item from supplier, rather

    than a cheaper option from someone not on list! Crazy #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:46@ianaddison @skoorBttaM I want to buy from amazon, but oh no, it has

    to be an 'approved' supplier. #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:46@dukkhaboy Not necessarily, but if you have to do it you have to do it.

    No good always fighting against the tide. Kids WILL suffer #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:46RT @trudianns: RT @chrismayoh. What about those paid on upper pay

    scales who refuse to keep up with the trends? Time to go! #ukedchat

    >absolutel !

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    ModernGovernor 20:46RT @chrisrat: Schools are sitting on cash reserves of nearly 2 billion

    #ukedchat http://chrisr.at/cPgm3k

    iamclairei 20:46@mister_jim #ukedchat Me too!

    misslpitkethly 20:46RT @dughall: @john_at_muuua @misslpitkethly There is a teachmeet

    online right now! http://bit.ly/9luGCN #tmsunderland #ukedchat --Great

    CPD!

    ebd35 20:46@bevevans22 Yes did hit...knocked myself out...just woke up! What's the

    topic? #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:46Will NQT's get all the new jobs? Why pay 36K when you can pay 24k

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:46RT @dughall: #ukedchat #teachmeet is an excellent/free model but

    needs to widen beyond those 'in the know'.

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    iamclairei 20:47@Joga5 @iteachyear4 I feel like I'm more up to date and have more

    impact than when I started! #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:47@Joga5 and I would totally agree with that research! Schools must

    embrace these new ideas! #ukedchat

    ModernGovernor 20:47RT @chrisrat: Schools could save over 400 million a year if they

    bought equipment and services more sensibly http://chrisr.at/cPgm3k

    #ukedchat

    alexgingell 20:47TeachMeet for trainees and NQTs attracted 156 people in Plymouth on

    Monday http://bit.ly/b5rIyr Already CPD #ukedchat

    misslpitkethly 20:48As a soon to be NQT I hope to bring new ideas to a school,also think it's

    valuable to work alongside the good experienced teachers#ukedchat.

    raff31 20:48RT @dughall: #ukedchat #teachmeet is an excellent/free model but

    needs to widen beyond those 'in the know'.

    SusanElkinJourn 20:48RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @SkoorBttaM: Why do things have to be

    ordered from a catalogue when you can find the same thing >at the

    ound sho !! #ukedchat

    Joga5 20:48@chrisrat Do you mean places like Ebay and Amazon? ;-) #ukedchat

    JuliaBhamICT 20:48RT @chrisrat: That's it -the UK is no 46 in list of spend on education by

    GDP http://chrisr.at/cLIcpN #ukedchat Interesting figures.

    Jamesashton20 20:48@Ideas_Factory i dont know, i disagree with that? i came up with alot of

    creative ideas in my first extended post? #ukedchat

    SkoorBttaM 20:48We're talking about cuts in schools and LAs but what about jobs at the

    DfE? The strategies r going and the new curric is on hold! #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:48@iteachyear4 You've got it! *splutters out of the dust* #ukedchat

    colport 20:48@chrisrat @Jamesashton20 I didn't go into teaching for pension, but it's

    nice to know it's there. Agree that this could explode #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:48 RT @chrismayoh: @iteachyear4 neither more important - crucial to havea good balance of youth and experience! #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:48@ModernGovernor How scary is that?! #ukedchat

    trudianns 20:48RT @Jamesashton20: RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat bloody difficult 2

    get rid of crap teachers-if private sector wld just B sacked! > AGREE!

    bevevans22 20:48@ebd35 It's budget cuts on #ukedchat tonight

    Ideas_Factory 20:48@chrisrat #ukedchat Comes down to budget regs-only now are bursars

    allowing us to shop online for discounts.

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    globalgrid 20:49What technologies will grow as key teaching tools, and which will soon

    disappear? #ukedchat http://ow.ly/2TFTD

    chrisrat 20:49@Joga5 that would be it! #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:49@colport We have just started shopping around for the cheapest prices

    #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:49@Ideas_Factory I was told that I was employed as an NQT for my fresh

    ideas, even though they were mostly dismissed by some #ukedchat

    ukedchat 20:49Ten minutes of #ukedchat session remains! Where does the time go?

    SusanElkinJourn 20:49RT @geraldhaigh1: @chrisrat Worth taking time to look for cash

    generators. Car parking for football is a bonanza for those in the right

    lace. #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:49@DrAshCasey not true! i'm still looking! : (#ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:49@mister_jim @dughall anything in London?#ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:49@Ideas_Factory I'd be sacked if I handled budgets the way that some

    schools do! Even when times are good, spend wisely! #ukedchat

    deerwood 20:49@chrisrat Does that mean buying centrally on a national scale?

    #ukedchat

    TrendsLeeds 20:49#ukedchat is now a #TT in #Leeds http://trendsmap.com/gb/leeds

    dughall 20:49@mister_jim I agree! #ukedchat The Blackpool #teachmeet model is

    *very* much in the right direction!

    DrAshCasey 20:50Are permanent jobs a thing of the past? Will teaches be offer tempory

    contracts to fill an immediate need and then get the push? #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:50 @john_at_muuua #ukedchat check out the teachmeets athttp://teachmeet.org.uk

    colport 20:50@bevevans22 Would being an academy give more freedom for

    purchasing items for school? #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:50@chrisrat #ukedchat Agreed-but that's why schools have a massive

    contingiency-what's the point in saving loads just in case!

    chrismayoh 20:50RT @ukedchat: Ten minutes of #ukedchat session remains! Where does

    the time go?

    chrisrat 20:50@deerwood not for most things - cf BSF for reasons why one size doesn't

    fit all! #ukedchat

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    dughall 20:50@mister_jim Hear hear! #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:50@dukkhaboy Exactly. Now, for me, they have to sort their priorities out

    or leave. An expensive waste of space otherwise. #ukedchat

    sjgknight 20:50RT @DavidPott: Could save 's if all schs used same assessment system.

    Must every sch target set and monitor *slightly* differently from other?

    #ukedchat

    Natty08 20:50What about those on upper scales happy to teach and keep up with the

    times? Can I stay? #ukedchat

    SusanElkinJourn 20:50RT @Jamesashton20: RT @Ideas_Factory: @duckinwales #ukedchat

    bloody difficult 2 get rid of crap teachers-if private sector wld just B

    sacked! > AGREE!

    mister_jim 20:50@dughall #ukedchat Still more to come too Dughall! I feel that model

    must fit the people rather than other way around

    SkoorBttaM 20:50@john_at_muuua #ukedchat It's a joke isn't it! If each school saved

    money in that way we'd save a packet across the country!

    ICTtower 20:51Lol! RT @duckinwales: @ukedchat 10 minutes of #ukedchat session

    remains! Where does the time go?

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    john_at_muuua 20:52@dughall thanks... but Lambeth! Really must we go south of the river?!

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:52Coming into last 10 mins - Do you think it will be as bad as I have

    gloomily predicted?! #ukedchat

    bevevans22 20:52@colport Not sure really. Nothing stopping a school getting a debit card

    and shopping around for cheapest items now #ukedchat

    geraldhaigh1 20:52@colport @duckinwales I don't doubt you're right. But there are

    examples where LA knows apparently cheaper deals hide higher tco.

    #ukedchat

    mister_jim 20:52RT @Natty08: What about those on upper scales happy to teach&keep

    up with the times? Can I stay? #ukedchat There's lots of you!

    Ideas_Factory 20:52@iteachyear4 #ukedchat Not a criticism of NQT just more the way

    they're handled and expectation.Too busy/not encouraged to be creative

    bevevans22 20:53@raff31 @dughall We still organise TeachMeets in our own time though.

    Would it work if schools could hold them during INSET times? #ukedchat

    ICTtower 20:53 @colport If that's tru, then why don't they do it? Madness #ukedchat

    DeputyHeadDunn 20:53@chrisrat It could well be. But schools have a habit of finding a way!

    #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:53Of course! We like you lot! > RT @Natty08: What about those on upper

    scales happy to teach and keep up with the times? Can I stay? #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:53@Ideas_Factory Completely agree with you. Support is often not there,

    and trust is also lacking. Needs to be a good mix in schools #ukedchat

    svenhall 20:53@Jamesashton20 #ukedchat is the struggle to get a post due to so many

    PGCE courses?

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    MoreThanMaths 20:53Certainly! (Me too?) RT @Natty08: What about those on upper scales

    happy to teach and keep up with the times? Can I stay? #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:53@chrisrat #ukedchat That's why the 1st thing I'll do as a head is employ a

    Business manager-saves money and applies for funding streams

    mister_jim 20:53@DrAshCasey #ukedchat I hope not. Children & schools need stability.

    Perhaps a semi-permanent or 24/36 month contracts?

    DavidPott 20:53@rpycroft Years ago I thought 1 National Curriculum = 1 Assessment

    System. How wrong I was! #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:53@DrAshCasey haha! i know! what some teachers are on they can pay 2

    of me! :P #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:53@colport not a man of your talents! the cream should always rise to the

    top but opportunities might be fewer #ukedchat

    timmajor80 20:53Interested in the idea that academies may be freer to purchase from

    greater range of sources - is that true? #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:54@Jamesashton20 indeed but the jobs have to come free first...

    #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:54@iteachyear4 that doesn't change how ever long you have been

    teaching there are always some that don't get the new ideas.#ukedchat

    deerwood 20:54@bevevans22 @raff31 @dughall The model could work but there may

    then be a cost #ukedchat

    Jokprice 20:54@bevevans22 we have a fantastic secretary with ... a credit card!!

    #ukedchat

    DrAshCasey 20:54@mister_jim let's hope not...but...#ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:54RT @timmajor80: Interested in the idea that academies may be freer to

    purchase from greater range of sources - is that true? #ukedchat

    duckinwales 20:54 @chrisrat #ukedchat - that depends how low down the ladder you are.

    chrisrat 20:54PRT @bevevans22 Nothing stopping school getting a debit card &

    shopping around 4 cheapest items #ukedchat There's lots of ou!

    Jamesashton20 20:55@svenhall i'm not sure if it's me being picky or schools being picky :P lol

    #ukedchat

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    chrismayoh 20:55@Ideas_Factory Depends who your business manager is. I've known

    them to be incompetent, interfering wastes of space #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 20:55#ukedchat Who shall we send our ideas to - Gove?

    nwinton 20:55RT @Natty08: What about those on upper scales happy to teach and

    keep up with the times? Can I stay? #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:55@rpycroft Years ago I thought 1 National Curriculum = 1 Assessment

    System. How wrong I was! #ukedchat ...rookie mistake!

    wendyJR 20:55well going from tweets from #ukedchat I think i best start applying for

    Asda hmm talent wasted I think

    Natty08 20:55I think the gov ed budget should be cut to stop these non teachers giving

    'good' ideas and making us implement it! #ukedchat

    dughall 20:55@bevevans22 Teachmeet is just a model, not a stratjacket. #ukedchat

    colport 20:55@ICTtower As payments have to go through central payments

    department. They only use suppliers who are happy to wait months for

    #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:55@svenhall #ukedchat Am sure I'll be in the same situation in the future &

    would want to chose that option

    DavidPott 20:55@sjgknight 'Assessment Consultancy' would be a great role for an LA to

    take - and appreciated by schools #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:55@svenhall eh? oh i dont know about the PGCE i'm full Keys Stage 2/3

    with ICT QTS lol #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:55@Ideas_Factory Even a part timer would be perfect for this - imagine if

    they cascaded knowledge to other staff?! #ukedchat

    Kenny73 20:55#ukedchat topic tonight plays on personal politics. Struggling 2 talk

    about cuts as an assumption when can see other money drains

    bevevans22 20:56 @dughall True, but a few people have spoken before about the fact theare in our free time. I don't mind but others do :( #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:56RT @TheHeadsOffice: #ukedchat Who shall we send our ideas to -

    Gove?

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    Jamesashton20 20:56@wendyJR been there done that, stick it out! it wasn't fun! :( #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:56RT @misslpitkethly: RT @chrismayoh: @iteachyear4 neither more

    important - crucial to have a good balance of youth and experience!

    #ukedchat --I a ree

    deerwood 20:56thatnks for #ukedchat, as usual I had nothing constructive to say but

    great convo, now for Have I got News

    Jamesashton20 20:56@DrAshCasey haha! yup, as a supply teacher i hope someone goes off

    sick everyday! :P evil i know #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:56RT @geraldhaigh1: @chrisrat Oh God yes. #ukedchat

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    Grevster73 20:58@svenhall #ukedchat There are still huge deficits in the number of

    teachers of chem, physics, maths etc. We need targetted ITT in diff area

    ianaddison 20:58Fancy voting for next week's #ukedchat topic? Go on...

    http://ukedchat.wikispaces.com/poll

    Natty08 20:58NQTs are fine but don't have a staff of them or few years between them

    you need experience on the staff #ukedchat

    john_at_muuua 20:58we should all get together and run education. amazed that 140

    characters can give such single minded clarity! #ukedchat cheers to you

    all!

    colport 20:58@ICTtower Precisely! Always thought it madness! - @janwebb21 New

    HT wanted C.C., but bursar said it was too complicated! #ukedchat

    sciencelabman 20:59@iteachyear4 agree once again!! #ukedchat

    Jamesashton20 20:59RT @john_at_muuua: we shld al get tgthr & run education. amazed tht

    140 chracters cn giv such single minded clarity! #ukedchat

    SkoorBttaM 20:59Heard of one skwl making 10k from advertising revenue from their

    radio station- austerity could lead to innovation and creativity #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:59@Ideas_Factory You might get the decision right as an interview panel,

    but every now and then you'll get it wrong #ukedchat

    JfB57 20:59Many thanks@chrisrat & you lot for another great #ukedchat

    chrisrat 20:59So, we've covered cuts, PPA, Amazon, Business managers, teaching

    heads, TAs, CPD, school trips...1 wk to go to see what'll happen

    #ukedchat

    raff31 20:59@bevevans22 it would be good idea..even a mini level of sharing ideas at

    staff meeting #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 20:59@SusanElkinJourn But def think there is a market for these ebooks!

    Could send proceeds into school lol #ukedchat

    dan_bowen 20:59 #ukedchat funny thing is to save money they are develoing into free andacademies however Phillip Green this week said govmt inefficent...

    ICTtower 20:59@colport I had to pay for a dept website using my own CC cos school

    doesn't have one :-0 #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 20:59@Ideas_Factory Not necessarily. At interview you get a staged snapshot

    of a person #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 20:59@colport #ukedchat ahh but Bursars are not business managers..;^)

    rpycroft 21:00@DavidPott It doesn't matter, they've spent a fortune on the (non

    existant) NHS system - why not one for schools? #ukedchat

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    iamclairei 21:00@bevevans22 @dughall Those who r interested generally happy2do it in

    their own time.Those that aren't don't seem2engage full stop #ukedchat

    trees2066 21:00@Natty08 DIfferent teams bring different dynamics... Agree a blend of

    experiences is ideal. #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 21:00@DianneSpencer Honestly, when it comes out it just comes out...!

    #ukedchat

    chrisrat 21:00Is there some sort of horn to blow at the end of #ukedchat I can't seem

    to find the button! Thank you all for being so great!

    DavidPott 21:00Goverment pulling both ways - wants school to have autonomy to make

    local purchasing decisions but demands economies of scale. #ukedchat

    dan_bowen 21:00...due to not using large buying power (e.g the LA model, BB consortia

    etc in schools) #ukedchat so schools doing their own thing will....

    chrismayoh 21:00@Ideas_Factory Too easy to not lay the blame with the incompetent

    individual! People must take responsibility for themselves! #ukedchat

    ukedchat 21:00It's 9.00 - Many Thanks to @chrisrat for guest hosting this #ukedchat

    session. The archive process will start at 9.20. TY to all.

    DrAshCasey 21:00@duckinwales #ukedchat cover supervisors you mean ... good people

    doing a tough job for little reward...

    Ideas_Factory 21:00@janwebb21 #ukedchat Great idea-that's the route schools should be

    going-especially wastefull-ever looked in a skip outside a school b4?

    DrAshCasey 21:01Surprised that no one mentioned the 'long holidays' - will the school year

    grow to cram more in? A 4 day week with more terms #ukedchat

    trees2066 21:01RT @SkoorBttaM: one skwl making 10k advertising from their radio

    station- austerity could lead to innovation and creativity #ukedchat

    dughall 21:01#ukedchat ...and I forgot to suggest selling adverts on yer blogs, folks ;-)

    dan_bowen 21:01 #ukedchat.... BARKING MAD..woof woof. it will be more expensive inmost areas of school spending to go it alone!!!!

    iteachyear4 21:01RT @iamclairei: @bevevans22 @dughall Those who r interested

    generally happy2do it in their own time.Those that aren't don't

    seem2en a e full sto #ukedchat

    duckinwales 21:01Thought provoking #ukedchat - now off to disect a giant squid

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/inside-natures-giants

    #s uidni ht

    cleverfiend 21:01perhaps we should save money on ink/paper/time and join the kids in

    writing in text-speak! Gr8! #ukedchat

    Joga5 21:01@chrisrat Well done Chris - good effort. #ukedchat

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    bevevans22 21:01My head is bursting after trying to follow #ukedchat and #tmsunderland

    at the same time! Both fantastic in their own way!

    Jamesashton20 21:01is gonna have to go get the glasses he needs tomorrow! my eyes are

    killing me trying to follow #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 21:01RT @ianaddison: Fancy voting for next week's #ukedchat topic? Go on...

    http://ukedchat.wikispaces.com/poll

    dughall 21:01RT @JfB57: Many thanks@chrisrat & you lot for another great

    #ukedchat

    Ideas_Factory 21:01@chrismayoh #ukedchat Again I refer to my previous answer-

    recruitment not good enough.Would u employ a teacher without seeing

    them teach

    colport 21:01@Ideas_Factory Ours thinks she is! I think she is trying to save herself

    work - @ICTtower Sound very familiar #ukedchat

    bevevans22 21:02#ukedchat was as manic as ever tonight! Well done and thanks go to

    @chrisrat - you were a fab host :)

    Ideas_Factory 21:02@chrisrat #ukedchat Good work fella-most enjoyable esp as I thought

    topic might bore the pants of me-it didn't! Thanks to all!

    chrismayoh 21:02@Ideas_Factory Clearly not. But how do you observe a Business

    Manager manage a business? Trial period? Quite tricky #ukedchat

    dughall 21:02RT @bevevans22: Head bursting after trying 2 follow #ukedchat and

    #tmsunderland at the same time! Both fantastic in their own way! (Metoo!

    colport 21:02@chrisrat is feeling horny! Many thanks for hosting #ukedchat - You did

    a splendid job!

    chrismayoh 21:03How on earth has an hour passed? One of the best ever #ukedchat

    sessions I think! Thanks all :)

    Ideas_Factory 21:03@DianneSpencer #ukedchat Would do if you got rid of all your admin ;^)

    duckinwales 21:03 RT @DrAshCasey: @duckinwales #ukedchat cover supervisors you mean... good people doing a tough job for little reward...

    colport 21:03@DrAshCasey I got involved with a 4-day week discussion within

    #ukedchat - But you are right about holidays/terms etc. Good point.

    iteachyear4 21:03Thanks @chrisrat for tonight! Great discussions #ukedchat

    iteachyear4 21:04RT @chrismayoh: How on earth has an hour passed? One of the best

    ever #ukedchat sessions I think! Thanks all :)

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    Ideas_Factory 21:04@chrismayoh #ukedchat Agreed but am sure there are ways-BTW

    completely agree with all you're saying-have seen incompetance in all

    areas

    iamclairei 21:05@iteachyear4 Ben Case

    chrismayoh 21:05@Ideas_Factory And me with your points! Just purely playing devil's

    advocate and being a general pain! Lol #ukedchat

    dan_bowen 21:05...schools may also fall foul of things like google apps to save costs

    without realising consequences of their data mining #ukedchat

    jessamacookie 21:05Typical me: Find out about #ukedchat 10 mins before it stops (-_-)

    hopefully can be more involved next week

    MoodleDan 21:06RT @dan_bowen: #ukedchat.... BARKING MAD..woof woof. it will be

    more expensive in most areas of school spending to go it alone!!!!

    SkoorBttaM 21:06RT @chrisrat: Schools could save over 400 million a year if they

    bought equipment and services more sensibly http://chrisr.at/cPgm3k

    #ukedchat

    colport 21:06@chrisrat @ICTtower @Ideas_Factory @janwebb21 @DrAshCasey

    @bevevans22 @geraldhaigh1 @Jamesashton20 Thanks for #ukedchat

    discussion 1 2

    misslpitkethly 21:06Thanks to @chrisrat for the #ukedchat tonight. I only joined it 1/2 way

    through but still enjoyed it!

    SusanElkinJourn 21:06V thoughtful & enjoyable discussion on #ukedchat tonight. If I were still

    editing CPD Update (Optimus) I'd recommend it warmly to teachers.

    iteachyear4 21:07I refuse to sign any petition relating to budget cuts. If they cut it

    elsewhere then maybe education will be ok... #ukedchat

    colport 21:07@VGoodyear @katie_hague @mister_jim @TheHeadsOffice

    @SusanElkinJourn @dughall Thanks for #ukedchat discussion

    Ideas_Factory 21:07@chrismayoh #ukedchat You need need to be pain to be a pleasure :^D

    chrismayoh 21:07 See u there > RT @jessamacookie: Typical me: Find out about #ukedchat10 mins before it stops (-_-) hopefully can be more involved next week

    colport 21:08Voting returns for #ukedchat next week. @ianaddison is the host, please

    vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    ukedchat 21:08Voting returns for #ukedchat next week. @ianaddison is the host, please

    vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    chrismayoh 21:08Well, that was insane! (#ukedchat) - and now for something completely

    different...

    svenhall 21:08I need a little education...why shouldn't rabbits eat lettuce? #ukedchat is

    this an experiment? Or have I exploited the #ukedchat hashtag?

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    jradxyz 21:08@duckinwales @DrAshCasey #ukedchat mdsa/cover supervisor. I

    wouldn't want that job. Full credit to them. what if they are cut!!!

    janwebb21 21:09@chrisrat tail end of #ukedchat sounded great!

    Ideas_Factory 21:09@janwebb21 Hows the headache-made a great entrance in #ukedchat

    ;^)

    ianaddison 21:09It's my turn...RT @ukedchat Voting returns for #ukedchat next week.

    @ianaddison is the host, please vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    SkoorBttaM 21:09RT @colport: @duckinwales I had to buy more expensive item from

    supplier, rather than a cheaper option from someone not on list! Crazy

    #ukedchat

    TheHeadsOffice 21:09@colport Great chat! We should do something with what is porduced in

    these #ukedchat s

    trees2066 21:09Keep catching weekly snippets of #ukedchat Hopefully will get more

    involved one of these weeks...

    Ideas_Factory 21:10RT @chrismayoh: RT @ukedchat: Voting returns for #ukedchat next

    week. @ianaddison is the host, please vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    ITsmartie 21:10This is great even if expensive. Professional dialogue over lesson

    observations. Time stamped reviews http://bit.ly/daouHr #ukedchat

    jessamacookie 21:10One thing came out of that manic 10mins of #ukedchat... Found lots of

    fellow minded twitterers! ^.^

    chrismayoh 21:10You must! > RT @trees2066: Keep catching weekly snippets of

    #ukedchat Hopefully will get more involved one of these weeks...

    DrAshCasey 21:10@jradxyz @duckinwales will teachers be saved for exam classes only?

    #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 21:10RT @ukedchat: Voting returns for #ukedchat next week. @ianaddison is

    the host, please vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    DrAshCasey 21:10 @jradxyz @duckinwales #ukedchat I fear that teachers wil go beforecover supervisors...and their job will become even harder.

    schmanctk 21:11First time on #Ukedchat for me tonight. So good to be able to network

    with so many on an issue at the forefront right now

    colport 21:11@TheHeadsOffice @JfB57 We do. We post the summary into a

    #ukedchat blog at http://ukedchat.wordpress.com/

    johnmclear 21:11@chrismayoh Would be joining everyone for #ukedchat but #workload

    at the moment is #stupid - outlook is VERY red :/

    Titian73 21:11RT @iteachyear4: I refuse to sign any petition relating to budget cuts. If

    they cut it elsewhere then maybe education will be ok... #ukedchat

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    ianaddison 21:12@trees2066 join in next week's #ukedchat, I've heard the host is a great

    bloke

    chrismayoh 21:12@johnmclear Not to worry. Priorities and all that :( #ukedchat

    chrismayoh 21:12Tough choice! > > RT @ukedchat: Voting returns for #ukedchat next

    week. @ianaddison is the host, please vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    Jamesashton20 21:14RT @ianaddison: @trees2066 join in next week's #ukedchat, I've heard

    the host is a great bloke

    colport 21:15@ianaddison @Ideas_Factory Funnily, you both had exactly the same

    number of #ukedchat tweets #reallymuststoplying

    janwebb21 21:16RT @chrismayoh: RT @ukedchat: Voting returns for #ukedchat next

    week. @ianaddison is the host, please vote at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

    dailydenouement 21:16Sorry not able to join in #ukedchat tonight. I've been completing a UCAS

    reference for one of my form.