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Page 1: Presented by: Terry Stohs Viessmann Manufacturing Company Inc.

Presented by:Terry StohsViessmann Manufacturing Company Inc.

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Design Challenges in Commercial Building.

Efficiency

Regulations

Mechanical Room Space

Customer Comfort

Installation Cost

System Design

Operational Cost

System Longevity

System Integration(BMS)

Initial Investment

Return On Investment

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What makes a Condensing Boiler Condense?

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Nov 2005 Foil 4

ENERGY CONTENT OF NATURAL GAS

SENSIBLE HEAT89.8%

Heat that can be measured or felt by a change in temperature

LATENT HEAT10.2%

Latent – Definition:Latin for “hidden”

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Simplified Chemical Combustion Formula:

CH4 + 2 O2 CO2 +2 H2O

HEAT RECOVERY FROM FLUE GASES

How do we capture the latent heat?

Water vapor (steam) containing latent heat

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MARKETING AND REALITY

99.8%

THE MOST EFFICIENT BOILER

98

% E

FFIC

IEN

T

….can reach efficiencies of 98% - and more…..

Thermal efficiency

Combustion

Efficie

ncy

AFUE

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What Are The Test??

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Condensate measured for condensing boilers test

Heat Exchanger

Constant Load∆T=100°FBTS-2000

Air Input

Fuel Input

180oF

80oF

COMBUSTION EFFICIENCY TESTINGFor condensing gas commercial boilers >300 MBH

Efficiency is manually calculated using formulas in BTS-2000 or CSA B140.7 - 05Efficiency is manually calculated using formulas in BTS-2000 or CSA B140.7 - 05

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THERMAL EFFICIENCY TESTINGFor commercial gas or oil boilers >300 MBH

QIN

Heat Input, btu/h

Boiler TIN – Fixed water temp (35-80oF)

Condensate measured for condensing boilers

TOUT

W= Mass of water (lb)

∆T≥100°F

BTS-2000NOTE:In some appliances the combustion and thermal efficiencies are so close that the thermal efficiency can actually be measured higher than combustion efficiency. This can be due to a very well insulated jacket (low standby losses), the testing environment (space warmer than Return Water Temperature) and small errors in the test results.

ANSI Z21.13 / CSA 4.9-2007

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Condensing boiler

Sensible heat

CondensationLatentheat

Total heatingvalue

Useableheat

Heatingsystem

MORE USABLE HEAT THROUGH CONDENSATION

What influences the rate of condensation?

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Do All Condensing Boilers Perform Equally?

Remember, efficiency depends on the rate of condensate formation!

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Heatingsystem

Govtregula-

tion

Fuel Burnertype

Returnwater temp

Effective use of

condensing

technology

Pipinglayout

FACTORS INFLUENCING EFFECTIVENESS OF CONDENSING

TECHNOLOGY

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Govtregula-

tion

Effective use of

condensing

technology

FACTORS INFLUENCING EFFECTIVENESS OF CONDENSING

TECHNOLOGY

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Heatingsystem

Returnwater temp

Effective use of

condensing

technology

FACTORS INFLUENCING EFFECTIVENESS OF CONDENSING

TECHNOLOGY

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Foil 15

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82

84

86

88

90

92

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96

2001801601401201008060

Dew Point of Natural Gas

Condensingmode

Non-Condensingmode

Ste

ad

y s

tate

boiler

effi

cie

ncy %

Boiler return water temp of

98

SIMPLIFIED CONDENSING BOILER OPERATION

133

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How do we get the most from a Condensing Boiler???

• Condensing Technology.• Rein in the energy savings.

Flue gas condensingIn contact with the Boiler’s heat exchanger

BoilerHeat exchanger

Flue gas

Latent energytransferredinto heating system

Make It RAIN!!!

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Boiler return water temperature determines condensing operation

RETURN WATER TEMPERATURE

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2. Efficiency Eliminate overheating Three to one rule Lower standby losses

Why use it?

1. Comfort Slow space temperature changes Constant heat output Keep up vs Catch up

Outdoor Reset Control

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2272

86

104

158

176

195oF

133

117

167B

oiler

Wate

r Te

mp

era

ture

Dew pointNatural gas

Traditional boilers must be kept hot140o

F

Boiler water temperature modulated

oF+65 +50 32 +14 -4

Outside Temperature

On/off control

Boiler water temperature maintained

HYDRONIC WATER TEMPERATURES

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IMPACT OF SYSTEM TEMPERATURES ON CONDENSATIONSupply/return temperature:

167/140oF

59 50 41 32 23 14 5 oF

167oF

140oFDewpoint temp 133oF

Condensation range

11.3oF

Syste

m w

ate

r te

mp

era

ture

68

86

104

122

140

158

oF

176

194

Outside temperature68

FanRadiators

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SYSTEM WATER TEMPERATURE DROP

Typical system 20oF Temperature drop

160oF

160oF

What about a higher temperature drop?30oF……40oF?

140oF

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Air flow

160OF

140°F

Fan Coils For Condensing Boilers

TraditionalFan Coil Sizing

150°F

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Air flow

170OF

130°F

Fan Coils For Condensing Boilers

Fan Coil Sizing

150°F

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INFLUENCING THE RETURN WATER TEMPERATURE

Let’s get creative

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Hybrid SystemSystem Return

System Supply

Condensing boilerNon-Condensing boiler

CondensingBoiler

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Burner

type

Effective use of

condensing

technology

FACTORS INFLUENCING EFFECTIVENESS OF CONDENSING

TECHNOLOGY

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Natural Gas Combustion

1 part gas 10 parts air

+Excess air

More excess air = Lower CO2%Lower C02% = Lower dew point temperatureLower dew point temp. = Less condensation

What happens as we increase excess oxygen to achieve better flame quality?

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What Methods are Available?

Does it Change Efficiency?

Turn Down

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Higher CO2

=Higher Dew point=More Condensation

Dew

poin

t w

ate

r vap

or

77

86

95

104

113

122

131

140

oF

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Natural Gas (95% CH4)

Lower CO2

=Lower Dew point=Less Condensation

Water vapor condenses below the dew point temperature

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Effective use of

condensing

technology

Pipinglayout

FACTORS INFLUENCING EFFECTIVENESS OF CONDENSING TECHNOLOGY

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USE OF MIXING VALVES WITH CONDENSING BOILERS

3-way mixing valve

Lower boiler return water temperature.

CORRECT

4-way mixing valve

Boiler return water temperature elevation

INCORRECT

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CONDENSING BOILERS IN TWO TEMPERATURE SYSTEMS

Lowtempsystem

High temp system

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COMBINATION OF BOILERS

LAG BOILER LEAD BOILER

System Return

System Supply

Condensing boilerCondensing boiler

Boiler

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Integrated solutions for all your hydronic heating and DHW needs

DHW

Small Boilers

LargeBoiler

DHW

Thermal Solar

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Thank You!!!

Terry StohsViessmann Manufacturing Company Inc.