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Topic started on 18-5-2007 @ 02:36 PM by Spartannic
While digging for ufo evidence in old manuscripts paintings and alot of other
stuff i found some pics that clearly show unexplainable stuff so here i share it
with u guys to debate about.
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These images of two crusaders date from a 12th century manuscript " Annales
Laurissenses" (volumes/books about historical and religion events)and refer to
a UFO sighting in the year 776, during the siege on Sigiburg castle, France.
The Saxons besieged and surrounded the French people. They both were
fighting when suddenly a group of discs (flaming shields) appeared hovering
over the top of the church. It appeared to the Saxons that the French were
protected by these objects and the Saxons fled.
and then some more....
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The above image comes from the 10th Century Tibetan translation of the
Sanskrit text "Prajnaparamita Sutra", held at a Japanese museum. In the
enlargement you can see two objects that look like hats, but why are they
floating in mid air ? also one of them appears to have port holes on it. Indian
Vedic texts are full of descriptions of Vimanas. The Ramayana describes
Vimanas as a double decked, circular or cylindrical aircraft with portholes and
a dome. It flew with "the speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious
sound".
I always believed that the most unexplainable was the ufo sightings of the
past. All of those (hardcore)debunkers who blame everything to be
photoshopped and stuff cant claim it on those old manuscripts an alike.
So with this thread i hope to get some more info on anything old that holds
ufo tales or images .
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:46 PM by etshrtslr
Here is another one from 1350.
upper left enlarged
upper right enlarged
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reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:52 PM by SpiralTrance
Amazing pictures there :-)
I don't personaly think the UFO phenomonen is a new one. Saying that I wonder
what people back in the 700's would have thought about UFO's. I doubt they would
have saw them as an adavanced technology like we do today, but probably as
something biblical or prophetic.
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reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:52 PM by Moserious
I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure
that some can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice
one's, you gotta check it out:
www.bibleufo.com...
What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been
posted in this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th
Century painting, it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I
know that there are loads of fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it
guy" but these old works of art may be the some of the best evidence. Too bad
nobody is still around from those days. Thanks ATS!
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:54 PM by SloS13
been posted here before but possibly some of the best ufo "pictures" in history.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:54 PM by Spartannic
thx for the input mate. The above picture from etshrtslr shows a fresco entitled
"The Crucifixion" and was painted in 1350. Two objects with figures inside can be
seen in the top left and top right of the fresco. Two enlargements of these objects
are shown above. The fresco is located above the altar at the Visoki Decani
Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia
. Lets get some more in !!
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:57 PM by Spartannic
Originally posted by Moserious
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I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some
can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta
check it out:
www.bibleufo.com...
What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in
this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting,
it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of
fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" but these old works of art may
be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days. Thanks
ATS!
for those guys i have a nice collection of old pictures with ufos in them i plan to
post some more later this evening so flag the thread its going to get informative up
here.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 02:57 PM by junglelord
I know this stuff well but wonderful post
God Bless you for spreading the truth
they have been here for a long time
The Watchers
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 03:02 PM by Spartannic
heres a other one yall outta know about.
The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation"
(1486) and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a
pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary's head. A Blow up of the object is
under the painting.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 03:11 PM by etshrtslr
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This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the
15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser
collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped
object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen
looking up at the object.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 03:14 PM by Spartannic
and what about this coin/medal found in france from 1680
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 07:33 PM by steve22
I think these types of paintings and documents show some of the most convincing
evidence of extraterrestrial visitors. Back in those days, it would be impossible to
imagine someone flying in a craft like that. They would have no reason to create a
hoax, so it seems to me as some of the most undeniable and solid evidence to date.
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reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 08:41 PM by ArbitraryGuy
Originally posted by Spartannic
The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486)
and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam
of light down onto the crown of Mary's head. A Blow up of the object is under the painting.
Symbols in art mean different things to different cultures in different times. What
looks like a UFO beaming a laser at the Virgin May to a 21st century audience was
meant by the artist at the time to be circles of angels surrounding God and his light
descending on Mary.
A lot of the above pictures are also poor internet copies of the originals, which
makes UFO-looking objects appear. This is to say, many supposed UFOs in
reproductions of paintings on-line actually look so because of poor digital
reproduction. For instance, in the Virgin Mary particle beam picture, the "UFO" in
the original is actually alternating rings of clouds and angles which have always
represented God in sacred Catholic art. This is unseen because of the poor quality
of the reproductions on the internet.
Please don't confuse ancient or medieval symbolism of sacred art with depictions of
UFOs. Also please note that most paintings lose A LOT of detail when digitized an
put up on the Web. Please check out this website for an explaination of how
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scholars interpret these "UFO evidence paintings". Most all of the paintings posted
in this thread so far are discussed there.
[edit on 18-5-2007 by ArbitraryGuy]
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:07 PM by andpau87
Thanks for posting that website, ArbitraryGuy. When I seen this thread I started
looking for it again and sadly for some reason its not in my favorites.
Im glad someone had it
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:10 PM by The_Coo
Well thats those old ufo paintings debunked, seems the UFO craze came about
when TV became widesprad around the 50s.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:18 PM by Diplomat
Originally posted by Moserious
I've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some
can be explained but some cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta
check it out:
www.bibleufo.com...
What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in
this thread? I can already hear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting,
it is swamp gas and the other is flying seed pods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of
fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" but these old works of art may
be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days. Thanks
ATS!
All of those ancient images are not copyrighted are they? They are free for people
to grab and use however they want? I want to make sure before I save some etc
etc... Does anyone know?
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 09:35 PM by Diplomat
Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy
Originally posted by Spartannic
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The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486) and hangs in theNational Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary'shead. A Blow up of the object is under the painting.
Symbols in art mean different things to different cultures in different times. What looks like
a UFO beaming a laser at the Virgin May to a 21st century audience was meant by the
artist at the time to be circles of angels surrounding God and his light descending on Mary.
A lot of the above pictures are also poor internet copies of the originals, which makes
UFO-looking objects appear. This is to say, many supposed UFOs in reproductions of
paintings on-line actually look so because of poor digital reproduction. For instance, in the
Virgin Mary particle beam picture, the "UFO" in the original is actually alternating rings of
clouds and angles which have always represented God in sacred Catholic art. This is
unseen because of the poor quality of the reproductions on the internet.
Please don't confuse ancient or medieval symbolism of sacred art with depictions of UFOs.
Also please note that most paintings lose A LOT of detail when digitized an put up on the
Web. Please check out this website for an explaination of how scholars interpret these
"UFO evidence paintings". Most all of the paintings posted in this thread so far are
discussed there.
[edit on 18-5-2007 by ArbitraryGuy]
Great post. I can't speak for every single ancient piece of art that might have UFOs
in them, but in general I believe that people are just seeing what they want to see
and that the "UFOs" were originally meant to represent something else by the
artist...
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 10:21 PM by uberarcanist
Originally posted by Diplomat
Originally posted by MoseriousI've always been intrigued by the old works of art with UFO's in them. I am sure that some can be explained butsome cannot. This website has some really nice one's, you gotta check it out:
www.bibleufo.com...
What are the debuker arguments for some of the one's that have already been posted in this thread? I can alreadyhear it, "of course that is not a UFO in that 16th Century painting, it is swamp gas and the other is flying seedpods". Hey listen, I know that there are loads of fake UFO pictures these days and I am truly a "prove it guy" butthese old works of art may be the some of the best evidence. Too bad nobody is still around from those days.Thanks ATS!
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All of those ancient images are not copyrighted are they? They are free for people to grab
and use however they want? I want to make sure before I save some etc etc... Does
anyone know?
Classical works of art (as a general rule, anything before 1900) are NOT
copyrighted.
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 10:45 PM by Spartannic
I do believe alot of those pics can be explained in an ordinary way. But since i have
done alot of research in the field of ancient sightings i disagree with people who
claim they are al bunk. To me it seems clear that things like this :
This is an illustration from a book "Ume No Chiri (Dust of Apricot)" published in
1803. A foreign ship and crew witnessed at Haratonohama (Haratono Seashore) in
Hitachi no Kuni (Ibaragi Prefecture), Japan this strange object. According to the
explanation in the drawing, the outershell was made of iron and glass, and strange
letters shown in this drawing were seen inside the ship. And come on exlpain to me
what the thing could be exept a UFO ?
reply posted on 18-5-2007 @ 11:32 PM by spookymusic
Originally posted by etshrtslr
This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was
painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and
hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above
Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this
section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the
object.
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Looks kinda like Noah's Ark to me (it's shaped a little bit like a boat)...just some
speculation.
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