Ukedchat Archive 30 September 2010

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dughall 19:52

@Ideas_Factory Truly gutted. Thort I'd make it 2night but what with

emergency Dr apt for daughter & govs. Just got in, out again..

#ukedchat

ICTtower 19:54

@ICTEvangelist the tweets will be archived on the #ukedchat site, I'msure

Biz_Ferris 19:54

RT @Pauls_elearning: Dropbox Giving .EDU Addresses 500 MB per

Referral http://t.co/7g8Jh6A via @lifehacker #edchat #ukedchat

Flyingstartedu 19:54

Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally finished set up. click

here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8

flyingstartmag 19:54

Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally finished set up. click

here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8

primarypete_ 19:54

@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat sorry can't make it tonight - sounds like it

will be a top one :)

himupnorth 19:55

RT @Flyingstartedu: Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally

finished set up. click here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat

http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8

Ideas_Factory 19:56

#ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What skills/statements should be on a

new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st Century pupils?

himupnorth 19:57

The Blog Up North: Today's lesson: communicate! http://wp.me/pZCVi-m6 #ukedchat

janwebb21 19:57

RT @ICTtower: For those who will miss tonight's #ukedchat, the

archive is here: http://tinyurl.com/386ycu5

dakinane 19:57

RE http://bit.ly/9G0IQo Will be at #ulearn10 but this might be good for

some #in #teachers #ACEL #c21skills #elearning #edchat #ukedchat

ICTtower 19:57

For those who will miss tonight's #ukedchat, the archive is here:

http://tinyurl.com/386ycu5

chrismayoh 19:57

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What

skills/statements should be on a new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st

Century pupils?

janwebb21 19:57

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What

skills/statements should be on a new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st

Century pupils?

chrismayoh 19:57

Looking forward to #ukedchat although I'm absolutely shattered. Will

stick around for as long as I can manage!

janwebb21 19:58

@Ideas_Factory curriculum needs to be skills based so children are

equipped to cope with changing nature of tech in life #ukedchat

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ianaddison 19:58

over the next hour or so, all of my tweets will be related to #ukedchat,

focussing on changing the curriculum for the 21st century

DeputyMitchell 19:58

RT @Ideas_Factory: Will segment the session into 3 parts- 1st part-

Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT

#ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 19:58

#ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts- 1st part-GuidingPrinciples that should underpin curriculum? Please RT


#ukedchat - So much for a night off!! This will be too good to miss

really!

chrismayoh 19:59

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts-

1st part-Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT

kvnmcl 19:59

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts-

1st part-Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT

didactylos 19:59

#ukedchat are we talking curriculum = subject or curriculum = whole

education?

islayian 20:00

RT @ianaddison: over the next hour or so, all of my tweets will be

related to #ukedchat, focussing on changing the curriculum for the

21st century

Baggiepr 20:00

#ukedchat cyber citizenship thread to run through all curriculum. Build

online reputation & use web wisely

kvnmcl 20:00

ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen as acollaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:00

@Ideas_Factory ICT through curriculum or curriculum through ICT is

big factor #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:00

OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding principles should

underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?

Ariellah 20:01

RT @Ideas_Factory: OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding

principles should underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?

didactylos 20:01

#ukedchat guiding principle is that skills are long term skills and are not

'gadget' or software related

Ideas_Factory 20:01

RT @kvnmcl: ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen

as a collaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat

ColinTGraham 20:01

I have taken the liberty of scheduling tweets, since I can't be here in

body! One every 10 mins, apologies if any seem off-topic! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:02

@kvnmcl absolutely agree - ICT skills taught in authentic context is

very important tho need 2 develop skills sometimes #ukedchat

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Ideas_Factory 20:02

@didactylos #ukedchat guiding principle is that skills are long term

skills and are not 'gadget' or software related Completely agree!

ianaddison 20:02

@islayian i imagine english as we only focus on that! probably wrong,

but hopefully everyone will benefit #ukedchat

philallman1 20:02

#ukedchat ICT should increasingly become capability at KS2 like it is atKS3. Using and applying it is crucial - end of discrete subject?


#ukedchat - The model that one curriculum fits all is out dated, A

curriculum needs to be flexible so can be relevant to the target

learners

islayian 20:03

@ianaddison As I suspected so not really #ukedchat then?

ianaddison 20:03

skills should be taught, but let's teach how to 'do a presentation' and

not how to 'do a powerpoint' #ukedchat

Baggiepr 20:03

#ukedchat guiding principle prove you are web safe = greater web

tools to use. Responsibility determines level of access.

janwebb21 20:03

RT @Ideas_Factory: @didactylos #ukedchat guiding principle is that

skills are long term skills and are not 'gadget' or software related

Completely agree!

chrismayoh 20:04

Needs to be relevant. QCA was supposed to be an exemplar but was so

complete as a scheme that it was often used out of the box #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:04

@ianaddison skills that we need to teach need to transcend thesoftware #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:04

@islayian i can't discuss scottish or welsh as i have no experience, we

welcome you to contribute though. We have a wide audience

#ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:04

#ukedchat skills need to be grounded in purpose : ICT curriculum??

should ICT not underpin ALL of the curriculum?

didactylos 20:04

#ukedchat so the time validated skills are facilitated and improved by

the use of new technology

Ideas_Factory 20:04

#ukedchat So what kind of principles can be applied that will be 'future-

proof'?

BryanPlumb 20:04

RT @kvnmcl: ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen

as a collaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:04

@philallman1 i'm at a new school but aim to remove most discrete ict

next year #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:05

@ianaddison Agreed. And what's the point of 'doing a presentation' if

there is no opportunity to actually present it!? #ukedchat

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4goggas 20:05

RT @Ideas_Factory: OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding

principles should underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?

ColinTGraham 20:05

Scheduled 1: Understand what a digital footprint is and take steps to

monitor their own #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:06

RT @colport: A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely.From KS1 and onwards and throughout. #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:06

@Ideas_Factory Don't think there's such a thing as making it future-

proof. Needs to be evolving all the time according to need #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:06

RT @chrismayoh: And what's the point of 'doing a presentation' if

there is no opportunity to actually present it!? #ukedchat ABSoLUTELY

bevevans22 20:06

I teach a purely skills based ICT curriculum in the mornings but there's

still fun to be had #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:06

@islayian #ukedchat doesn't the question apply whichever part of the

uk we are in?

BryanPlumb 20:06

The importance of e-safety and implications of ones own actions.

#ukedchat


#ukedchat Is this ICT curriculum or just 'curriculum? Just want

clarification

mberry 20:06

OK, I don't /think/ you can have an ICT curriculum without some skillsand knowledge, but I suspect it's attitudes which are key #ukedchat

didactylos 20:06

@ianaddison #ukedchat is it the doing that is taught or the

understanding of what makes quality that is encouraged?

squiggle7 20:06

children need to know how to find things out when they don't know

how to use bits of ICT. Teach them how to use help files etc #ukedchat

colport 20:06

A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely. From KS1 and

onwards and throughout. #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:06

#ukedchat Every curriculum needs focus-looking first at principles then

skills and finally capability tonight 3part session

ianaddison 20:07

@didactylos i would (and will) teach how to use different software, but

also points like choice of colour/style, layout etc #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:07

@mberry attitudes and transferrable skills - so need to teach in

context so choices about applying skills are taught #ukedchat

ParsleyBill 20:07

#ukedchat Children should be taught language-based principles that

underpin use of new ICT media e.g. podcasts, digital movies &

animation.

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frogphilp 20:09

@didactylos #ukedchat - effect of ICT is felt across curriculum. It is a

pillar for many other things so it's curriculum is integral to all

squiggle7 20:09

@colport typing skills a MUST in my opinion, having just discovered my

year 4 class can't type

colport 20:09

@philallman1 Totally agree. Do any primary teachers still teach ICT asa distinct subject? #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:09

Gear ICT to fit cross-curricular teaching, children will learn their ICT

skills incidentally #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:09

@kvnmcl they are also more discerning #ukedchat


@ianaddison @didactylos and the listening part so they can get

feedback! Feedback is a gift! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:09

@philallman1 seems like this is quite a common train of thought

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:09

#ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely when they are

all intertwined in adult life?

bevevans22 20:09

@chrismayoh @ForesterJo Our pupils are expected to 'present' any

ppts, prezis etc. in front of class for peer evaluation #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:09

RT @philallman1: @colport I don't think in isolation. The ICT currshould be embedded in the rest of the curriculum. #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:10

@didactylos but skills such as 'not putting too much text on the pres

and reading it all out loud' need to be taught. ppt or prezi #ukedchat

mberry 20:10

@colport add "and responsibly" to "safely" - cyberbullying and loss of

innocence are big issues. #ukedchat

tobyholman 20:10

@philallman1 Agree. Core skills through ICT, additional through other.

More implementation #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:11

#ukedchat What about using lateral/creative thinking skills?

ianaddison 20:11

@colport our school teaches ICT completely discretely. I will change

that over the coming year. #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:11

RT @bevevans22: @chrismayoh @ForesterJo Our pupils are expected

to 'present' any ppts, prezis etc. in front of class for peer evaluation

#ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:11

QCA was designed to be easy to follow&is. A new approach requires

the same ease of use, you can't put in too many tools. Focus.

#ukedchat

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didactylos 20:11

RT @Mr_Thorne: Gear ICT to fit cross-curricular teaching, children will

learn their ICT skills incidentally #ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:11

RT @colport: A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely >>>

& other tech, mobile phones etc #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:11

@colport key skills taught discretely but then taken on and embeddedacross the curriculum by class teachers #ukedchat

cleverfiend 20:11

If we are preparing students for life after school there has to be more

to ICT than 'training' students to use Office software #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:11

@didactylos i'd rather my children knew about 3 or 4 different tools to

present their work, I will teach ppt, but also others too #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:11

@ianaddison @colport am going to change my handwriting sessions to

half HW, half typing #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:11

RT @mberry: @colport add "and responsibly" to "safely" -

cyberbullying and loss of innocence are big issues. #ukedchat Just

thinking same!

didactylos 20:11

@colport #ukedchat many learners don't need keyboarding, but some

are lamentably unable to - and its a real sen issue

didactylos 20:12

@ianaddison #ukedchat want to get below that level of knowledge, in

a few years will 'powerpoint type presos' be the way people work

anyway?


RT @ianaddison: i'd rather my children knew about 3/4 different toolsto present their work, I'll teach ppt, but also others too #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:12

@Crosbiei Because some skills need to be taught by specialist staff so

that non-specialists can concentrate on content #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:12

@simonhaughton of course, or kizoa...lots out there, but limited on

space. lots of tools, some similar, some diff #ukedchat

mberry 20:12

@janwebb21 the context does matter, and better IMH(?)O to link with

other learning that something artificially 'relevant'/'trendy' #ukedchat

mynictle 20:12

sorry, forgot again, but late #ukedchat

tobyholman 20:12

How many teachers of ICT ask rest of school which skills are NOT

needed? #ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:13

#ukedchat children need to be able to apply their skills to a variety of

apps - schools that offer few aren't preparing pupils for future

mberry 20:13

@ianaddison handwriting, yes, but why? #ukedchat

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ICTtower 20:13

RT @bevevans22: @colport key skills taught discretely but then taken

on and embedded across the curriculum by class teachers #ukedchat

curricadvocate 20:13

@Mr_Thorne don't think we can rely on incidental for all ICT learning -

needs some agreement about the core skills #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:13

RT @ianaddison: @didactylos i'd rather my children knew about 3 or 4different tools to present their work #ukedchat


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squiggle7 20:14

@colport yes, definitely, they don't know how to cut/paste either. Will

be doing lots of work on that! #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:15

Teaching of ICT is dependent on school resources though. u can't

embed it across the curriculum if all u have is a laptop trolley

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:15

@JaneDavis13 #ukedchat really starting to dislike the term 'soft skills'its a label that immediately devalues

ForesterJo 20:15

@bevevans22 think this may be how we have to make the shift but

skills taught in way that fit for purpose #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:15

@mberry I'm very keen that the context should be relevant and real =

authentic opportunity to choose ICT tools not contrived #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:15

@curricadvocate thats true! i just dont want to spend an ICT lesson

teaching how to log on #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:15

Another thing I do ( inked to Loxton ladders so poss. not applicable in

England) is similar skills at same time across year groups #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:15

RT @MoodleMcKean: @mberry in FE College we have changed from

acceptable use policy to responsible use policy.Educating not banning

#ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:15

RT @ICTtower: RT @bevevans22: @colport key skills taught discretely

but then taken on and embedded across the curriculum by class

teachers #ukedchat

colport 20:15

@squiggle7 I am currently doing that with my Year 2's, as they makebios with 2Publish+ #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:15

@ianaddison Interested as to why? #ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:15

would love to join in with #ukedchat tonight but I have the evils of

ofsted to deal with again tomorrow and too much to do :(

ianaddison 20:15

@mberry why teach handwriting? it's worth 3 points on sats papers?

#ukedchat (my handwriting is bloody awful)

ColinTGraham 20:15

Scehduled 2: Be able to explain the differences between different

forms of social media, such as Facebook, Twitter, Chatrooms, etc

#ukedchat

mberry 20:16

@MoodleMcKean I've not found any sites blocked here (Uni.) but have

never seen anything 'inappropriate' on PCs in IT rooms #ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:16

@colport Castells (2000 ish) wrote about the soft skills needed for

those having to work in the global economy - ICT as tool #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:16

Anyone find other subject teachers aren't happy/confident using ICT in

their own subject? #ukedchat

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didactylos 20:16

@ianaddison #ukedchat I don't think we actually disagree, i just think

we are emphasising differently

colport 20:16

@KnikiDavies Yes, so there is another key principle we need to think

about - cropping & use of digital images. #ukedchat


#ukedchat Just like any area of any curriculum it should be 'real''relevant' and ?? Damn...can't think of a 3rd 'R'!!

Ideas_Factory 20:16

@ianaddison #ukedchat Common misconception-what does 3 points

make for HW when being able to write with a purpose is worth 20

mynictle 20:16

already can't keep up #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:16

@ICTtower cos currently there is no cross-curricular ICT at all. I want to

embed it everywhere too. (i;m new to school) #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:16

RT @MoodleMcKean: in FE College we have changed from acceptable

use policy to responsible use policy. Educating not banning #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:16

@ICTtower Does learning need to be specialised in primary?I can

understand some specialism in 2ndary due to make up of ed system

.#ukedchat

colport 20:16

@ForesterJo Good point....it has to be taught among the whole school -

IT co-ord ensuring success. #ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:16

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Ok So let's have some suggestions for'taught' skills-eg Pupils able to deciminate,research,find/present info

islayian 20:16

#ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processing skills; Base

skills in place and tech skills developed as required

colport 20:17

@JaneDavis13 It was true then....even more important ten years on!

#ukedchat

frogphilp 20:17

Look at work of Mike Askew - best teachers are those that make links

between subjects, therefore teaching ICT discretely is #fail #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:17

We should be teaching that there r a range of tools 2 complete any

given task. Pupils should feel competent 2 select and use well

#ukedchat

Ariellah 20:17

#ukedchat principles for ICT Curriculum; Ensure progression in basic

Skills (such as typing, PP/ Word, Search,etc) starting early

ForesterJo 20:17

@mynictle you and me both! #ukedchat

mynictle 20:17

my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching to go alongside

drugs & sex ed #ukedchat

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philallman1 20:17

RT @ianaddison: @mberry why teach handwriting? it's worth 3 points

on sats papers? #ukedchat (my handwriting is bloody awful) no marks

then!

squiggle7 20:17

@ianaddison I do think hw is important esp. in dvmt of fine motor

skills but typing skills just as, if nt more important for chn #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:17

RT @islayian: #ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processingskills; Base skills in place and tech skills developed as required

karencymru 20:17

RT @islayian: #ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processing

skills; Base skills in place and tech skills developed as required


@Mr_Thorne perhaps that's where the setting up of it systems should

be considered. can logging on be made easier and e-safe? #ukedchat

didactylos 20:18

@Laura_987 #ukedchat yes, because they think they have to be

experts on the mechanics - they don't - experts on its use they do

ICTtower 20:18

@ianaddison Not ppossible to do both? Timetable constraints?

#ukedchat

colport 20:18

Another key principle is using a mouse! My Year 2's were amazed by

the right-click facility! Opened up new world! #ukedchat

BryanPlumb 20:18

RT @chrismayoh: teach that there r a range of tools 2 complete any

given task. Pupils should feel competent 2 select and use well

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:18

@philallman1 but SATs shouldn't be the be all and end all in decidingwhat we teach #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:18

@kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat can't go too far wrong with Blooms

taxonomy, eh no??!

JaneDavis13 20:18

@didactylos I can understand that - you have a better descriptor?

#ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:18

@Laura_987 #ukedchat still think there is general opinion / attitude

those staff that will try new things and those that wont!

Crosbiei 20:18

#ukedchat I would say most important is the ability to choose the

correct tool for the job at hand

mberry 20:18

@janwebb21 depends on what you meant by context! I /think/ I was

agreeing, but I could be wrong. #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:18

RT @DeputyMitchell: #ukedchat Just like any area of any curriculum it

should be 'real' 'relevant' and 'researched'?

Ideas_Factory 20:19

RT @Ariellah: #ukedchat principles for ICT Curriculum; Ensure

progression in basic Skills (such as typing, PP/ Word, Search,etc)

starting early

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JaneDavis13 20:19

@colport exactly - even at primary level we are preparing leathers for

the wider social environs but via ICT etc #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:19

I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os - many different

platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill. #ukedchat

islayian 20:19

RT @Catriona_O: @kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat can't go too far wrongwith Blooms taxonomy, eh no??!.... so true

janwebb21 20:19

@mberry I came to the conclusion that you were agreeing!!!!! in my

primary context the ict fits with our cross curricular approach

#ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:19

#ukedchat This cross-curricular discussion is pointing to one thing-

Transferability! The skills taught must be transferable 2 other subjects

ianaddison 20:19

@didactylos probably! can sometimes be hard to have a proper chat in

140 characters :-) #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:19

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Common misconception-what does 3

pts make for HW when being able to write with a purpose is worth 20-

gd point!

philallman1 20:19

RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat I would say most important is the ability to

choose the correct tool for the job at hand


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bevevans22 20:20

To explain further, all pupils cover internet safety at same time at right

level for them (good for differentiating) #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:20

#ukedchat - surely it is about chdn feeling competent to make a choice

on how to access / deliver / present their work however......

lisibo 20:20

RT @frogphilp: I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os -many different platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill.

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:21

RT @ianaddison: @ICTtower i want teachers to see ICT as something

that enhances what they do in literacy, not just something totally

different #ukedchat

fcbsd 20:21

people end up selecting the tools, they know, not the best one for the

task. #ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:21

#ukedchat but how do teachers with less skills keep up?

ianaddison 20:21

@mynictle we will be teaching about social networking, rightly or

wrongly, children need to know how to be safe #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:21

@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat What's the point in being able to use a

tool/skill if it's only in one context? Very limiting!

janwebb21 20:21

@DeputyMitchell robust? #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:21

@Crosbiei Is there a 'correct' tool though, or is it down to choice?Why not use word 2 make a poster and pub to type a letter?

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:21

RT @kvnmcl Basic skill set-keyboard, Mouse, trackpad, OS, word

processing, application tools all from an early age < totally agree

#ukedchat

Ariellah 20:21

#ukedchat Spiral ICT curriculum -where progress in skills aims to

achieve 21st century skills such as communication and collaboration

Laura_987 20:21

@Titian73 Are you joining in with #ukedchat? Get on over, it's good

fun. About ICT this week. Acetates- I really couldn't be bothered!

kvnmcl 20:21

@Catriona_O Definitely a good starting base (or until another comes

along) #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:21



different #ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:21

@mberry older learners (uni) hopefully have more responsibility for

their actions. Safeguarding issue in school & college #ukedchat

mynictle 20:21

feel that the social networking teaching is vital, should be done to

teach to give an informed choice #ukedchat

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ianaddison 20:21

@ICTtower e.g. they spent 5sessions making a persuasive leaflet, but

didn't think to link it to literacy and persuasion! #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:21

Transferability - functional flexibility. Same thing. PPT / Office / Mac

any single system only does not encourage flexibility #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:21

@mberry and to some extent a cross curricular approach is easier inprimary + -dare I say- more potential for flexible curriculum #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:22

Do we only teach the skills for software that we're comfortable with

ourselves? Isn't that a major hurdle?? #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:22

@ianaddison sounds like you have your work cut out! #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:22

A set of digital literacies that need to be taught if pupils are to be tech

savvy - hypertext, tagging, information, triangulation #ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:22

Information/digital literacy must be core #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:22

RT @mynictle: my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching

to go alongside drugs & sex ed #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:22

RT @frogphilp: I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os -

many different platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill.

#ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:22

Yup! > >RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat I would say most important is theability to choose the correct tool for the job at hand

Ideas_Factory 20:22

#ukedchat Sooo-we're all thinking in the 'NOW' & how technology

moves-what skills do you think will be useful for pupils in the future?


@janwebb21 Yes!!!! I likey! #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:22

@ianaddison I see, totally agree! #ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:22

@didactylos 'social competences' ...? Eek! #ukedchat


@curricadvocate A shame so many people do not invest the time in

developing PLN's! #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:22

RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat - surely it is about chdn feeling competent

to make a choice on how to access / deliver / present their work

however......

ICTtower 20:22

@Crosbiei Not sure, am 2ndary, I think not but requires all teachers to

be confident in delivery #ukedchat

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mynictle 20:23

might keep up better if i stopped doing everything else I am doing on

my laptop #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:23

@ForesterJo totally, but I love it. In 4 weeks we have achieved so so

much, give me a year and it'll be amazing #ukedchat

LisaHandley 20:23

RT @colport: Another key principle is using a mouse! My Year 2's wereamazed by the right-click facility! Opened up new world! #ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:23

@ictprimarysch Teachers with less skills MUST develop their skills.

Otherwise they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat

Ariellah 20:23

Agreed! RT @squiggle7: @colport typing skills a MUST in my opinion,

having just discovered my year 4 class can't type #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:23

@ICTtower there will be some skills ICT, but will be 'how to use ABC'

then they spend some sessions using it to make something #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:23

@DeputyMitchell real, robust, relevant is good!!!!!! #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:24

RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Tchrs with less skills MUST dev their

skills. O'wise they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:24

@mynictle here's our facebook guidance http://bit.ly/9lnyoa

#ukedchat

colport 20:24

RT @Ideas_Factory:So-we're all thinking in the 'NOW' & how techmoves-what skills will be useful for pupils in the future? #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:24

#ukedchat Tools-be wary of using specific tools in a curiculum-

Research using CD-ROM anyone?

philallman1 20:24

RT @SkoorBttaM: Do we only teach the skills for software that we're

comfortable with ourselves? #ukedchat < capping ability grrrr!

mberry 20:24

@MoodleMcKean Still think that education is as good a bit of

'safeguarding' as you can do, (& still works with 3G phones & MiFi)

#ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:24

Digital literacies continued - e-safety, filtering, networking literacies -

all need to be taught #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:24

Any teaching about where information comes from?For e.g. that

wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Excuse ignorance, I'm new (#PGCE)

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:24

@skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to do the

teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!

#ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:24

@SkoorBttaM #ukedchat if chdn knew how to use both then surely

they could make the choice as to which they could use for what?

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janwebb21 20:25

RT @Crosbiei: @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to

do the teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!

#ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:25

@ianaddison #ukedchat will hold you to that!!!!! Only joing - making

the same difference in Forest School so I know just how you feel!

janwebb21 20:25

@skoorBttaM #ukedchat need to be comfortable with being out of ourown comfort zone so we can teach kids the same

ictprimarysch 20:25

@kvnmcl #ukedchat I agree but to get them to invest the time will be

difficult with all other curriculum pulls on time

mynictle 20:25

blogs, should be written in to a policy somehow, guidelines etc

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:25

#ukedchat 'soft skills' are actually the skills that make for 'success in

life - so maybe 'success skills?'

Ideas_Factory 20:25

RT @mynictle: my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching

to go alongside drugs & sex ed #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:25

@26Tim Yeah, worrying! #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:25

RT @Crosbiei: @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to

do the teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!

#ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:25

@carolrainbow would agree - the whole interconnectivity spectrumneeds exploration - with stabilizers #ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:25

@Ideas_Factory CD what? ;-) seriously, that part needs to be removed

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:25

RT @frogphilp: I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os -

many different platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill.

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:25

@SkoorBttaM it takes a different mindset to teach software that we

aren't comfortable with #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:25

RT @ictprimarysch: #ukedchat but how do teachers with less skills

keep up? < could swap wth a colleague and you teach your specialism?


#ukedchat I want to ensure that my pupils have strategies for

supporting their thinking and learning quickly, and can determine what

is good

ColinTGraham 20:25

Scheduled 3: Be able to locate and download a variety of open-source

applications to PCs, mobile phones and hand-held devices #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:26

how can you ensure teachers keep up? How about

www.ictvideohelp.co.uk or http://edte.ch/blog/interesting-ways/

#ukedchat

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CliveBuckley 20:26

#elearning #ukedchat Steven Johnson's book, Where Good Ideas Come

From - in animation! http://bit.ly/aiyr9d Fantastic! via @PenguinBooks

didactylos 20:26

@ICTtower #ukedchat maybe as a complete cross curricular deliverer I

don't see why these have to be wrapped up in ICT

Ideas_Factory 20:26

RT @kvnmcl: Basic skill set-keyboard, Mouse, trackpad, OS, wordprocessing, application tools all from an early age #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:26

@ianaddison I see non-specialists teach skills in 'not best way', simply

because 'we've always done it like that' #ukedchat

colport 20:26

@LisaHandley Why? Seems random! #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:26

@Laura_987 good point Laura, chn need to know how to validate net

research and not just believe everything, just like other media

#ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:26

@Mr_Thorne: RT @ictprimarysch: #ukedchat could swap wth a

colleague and you teach your specialism? - then the teachers will never

catch up

chrismayoh 20:27

Our school makes sure everyone has an ICT-based performance

management target to ensure that they continue to improve their skills

#ukedchat

frogphilp 20:27

@didactylos good point about soft skills. Yet govt and SLT look for

measurable skills, so often teachers focus on wrong thing #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:27

@ICTtower totally, luckily I have teachers who are keen, but havenever know how to do it. I'm the 'how' to get them going #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:27

RT @janwebb21: @DeputyMitchell real, robust, relevant is good!!!!!!

#ukedchat

philallman1 20:27

RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 but SATs shouldn't be the be all and end

all in deciding what we teach #ukedchat< I didn't say that did I ?!!!!!

SkoorBttaM 20:27

@janwebb21 it lets you learn together with the children.- nothing

better than collaboration!! #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:27

@squiggle7 Yeah you're right about not just internet. Need to make an

informed decision about validity #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:27

RT @squiggle7: RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Tchrs with less skills

MUST dev their skills. O'wise they will find their class will leave them

behind #ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:27

@Mr_Thorne absolutely but how far 'do' we go before we mirror a

secondary sch if we keep swapping specialisms #ukedchat

JaneDavis13 20:27

@didactylos I know what you read ;-) - is that a social competence?

#ukedchat

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didactylos 20:27

RT @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to do the

teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:27

@Mr_Thorne @ictprimarysch But shouldn't all teachers be aiming for

these skills in this day and age? #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:28

@ICTtower @ianaddison 'Weve always done it like that' does my headin! We all need to move ourselves&learnin forward all the time.

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:28

@philallman1 but referring to handwriting only being worth 3 marks

implies it #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:28

@SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning - models skills of

learning and problem solving #ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:28

@ianaddison #ukedchat agree my teachers were blown away by the

help videos

ICTtower 20:28

@didactylos Some staff *may* not want to learn as don't see it's their

job, just want to get work done but with poor skills #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:28

@Ideas_Factory only place CDROM will have in my school is as part of

ICT history lesson I think, all our software is networked #ukedchat


@ianaddison but if they are resistant to ICT can you get them to invest

their own time in learning? #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:28

@kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat indeed -here's mylinkshttp://bit.ly/cKuuxJ

Ideas_Factory 20:28

RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Teachers with less skills MUST develop

their skills. Otherwise they will find their class will leave them behind

#ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:29

@curricadvocate @ianaddison Have u tried to do that? I find teachers

are very protective of their time! #ukedchat

philallman1 20:29

RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 but referring to handwriting only being

worth 3 marks implies it #ukedchat that was ian not me?! not guilty!


@chrismayoh does the PM target focus on pedagogy or skills?

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:29

@ICTtower #ukedchat see specialists teach in the wrong way because

they have always done it like that - sorry

Ariellah 20:29

what age is the ICT Curriculum caters to? what age do we start?

#ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:29

@ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago. Now it should

be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help #ukedchat

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Ideas_Factory 20:29

RT @carolrainbow: Digital literacies continued - e-safety, filtering,

networking literacies - all need to be taught #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:29

@ForesterJo will do a first month blog post this weekend #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:29

@Laura_987 #ukedchat Yes agreed-The 'truth' of information must betaught-most pupils seem to think that if it's on a screeb it's true.

PCampbell91 20:29

RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely

when they are all intertwined in adult life?


Many schools will have no choice but to take ICT out of Suite

(flips/mics/cameras/etc) as many don't have/will not have the money

#ukedchat

fcbsd 20:29

@Crosbiei beware - they often know the how to do something, but not

always the why it works like that.... #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:29

@dawnhallybone Good point about wide use of ICT. Other things often

forgotten #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:29

@curricadvocate you have to be gentle, show them the possibilities,

be there to help them and guide them #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:30

I think students should be able to work independently, actually

applying their ICT skills to given situations with e-confidence #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:30

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat 'soft skills' are actually the skills that makefor 'success in life - so maybe 'success skills?' I like that!

didactylos 20:30

#ukedchat bias declaration - I'm not convinced about the reality of

subject specialism anway

frogphilp 20:30

@DeputyMitchell In some schools ICT suite for 1st 6 weeks then PCs to

classroom when skills in place. #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:30

RT @mynictle: blogs, should be written in to a policy somehow,

guidelines etc #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:30

@Ariellah the curriculum in our school starts at foundation stage - age

4 - age appropriate and relevant learning opportunities #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:30

@Mr_Thorne #ukedchat - my guess is that she only thinks she is not

ICT literate - she could be given small tasks for instant success

MoodleMcKean 20:30

@chrismayoh: Our school makes sure everyone has an ICT-based

performance management target >>> eCPD a good framework to

follow #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:30

RT @janwebb21: @SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning -

models skills of learning and problem solving #ukedchat

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philallman1 20:30

RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely

when they are all intertwined in adult life? not a daily mail reader :)

ictprimarysch 20:30

@curricadvocate @ianaddison #ukedchat as @ianaddison advised me

show the how successful it can be and they will follow!

squiggle7 20:30

@philallman1 ok sorry, hard to keep up! #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:30

@Crosbiei Agree! #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:30

RT @ICTtower: @didactylos Some staff *may* not want to learn as

don't see it's their job, just want to get work done but with poor skills

#ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:30

@ianaddison #ukedchat I have just said same to SMT unless we have

site license then very limited use - need all chdn to be able to access


RT @Ideas_Factory: @Laura_987 #ukedchat Yes agreed-The 'truth' of

information must be taught-most pupils seem to think that if it's on a

screeb it's true.

Ideas_Factory 20:30

RT @ColinTGraham: Scheduled 3: Be able to locate and download a

variety of open-source applications to PCs, mobile phones and hand-

held devices #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:30

@Crosbiei i teach 1 class, they have a topic book from 6 yrs ago, tchr

said 'i'd like it done like that pls' #ukedchat


@ianaddison #ukedchat agree, and have done this with success. devil'sadvocate - what if they still don't budge?

OhLottie 20:31



different #ukedchat

Ariellah 20:31

@chrismayoh Does ICT has to start and end with computers? what

about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:31

@ForesterJo also important to give staff a copy to let them play at

home if they want to, that's working well at our sch #ukedchat

philallman1 20:31

RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 ok sorry, hard to keep up! #ukedchat I

RT'd him - though if I had my way I'd prioritise typing over handwriting!

ICTtower 20:31

@didactylos That is true too! We need teachers who are prepared to

offer/show better ways of using tools to communicate #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:31

@ianaddison #ukedchat look forward to reading it - reminds me I have

about 4 to write!!!

carolrainbow 20:31

@Mr_Thorne #ukedchat - things she could do with a class to build

confidence and strategies for coping - let he pupils cope - they will!

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SkoorBttaM 20:31

@philallman1 Cud be why so many chn are being put off taking ICT

further- they're used to using a range of tools- not in skwl tho

#ukedchat

ianaddison 20:31

@Crosbiei yup, showed 3 teachers 2Create a Super Story after school

today, they loved it. #ukedchat

Laura_987 20:31

@Ideas_Factory No harm in reading other things but they need toknow what is valid. #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:32

@curricadvocate stuff 'em, work on the teachers that do care and

focus on the children in your class. Head's problem really? #ukedchat

cloud_burst 20:32

#ukedchat open horizons with collborative technologies

mynictle 20:32

much easier for all if guidelines came from the top so they were the

same for us all to follow instead of doing own thing #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:32

RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago.

Now it should be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:32

@philallman1 I'm making sure it's at least 50/50 from now on.

#ukedchat

ICTtower 20:32

RT RT @kvnmcl: Tchrs with less skills MUST dev their skills. O'wise

they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat

philallman1 20:32

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat bias declaration - I'm not convinced aboutthe reality of subject specialism anway< me too!

Laura_987 20:32

@paulholio Join in with #ukedchat?

chrismayoh 20:32

@curricadvocate Focus on creating richer learning experiences for

pupils by learning and implementing new skills #ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:33

RT @Ariellah: Does ICT has to start and end with computers? what

about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? > must include all #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:33

RT @ICTEvangelist: I think students should be able to work

independently, actually applying their ICT skills to given situations with

e-confidence #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:33

#ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not a bit absurd 2

have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner driven?

ForesterJo 20:33

@ianaddison #ukedchat might be an idea - first staff training at mine 4

people tomorrow maybe 1 "if anyone else is going".........

chrismayoh 20:33

@Ariellah Absolutely! ICT definitely does not just mean computers. At

all. End of! #ukedchat

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Ideas_Factory 20:33

RT @janwebb21: @SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning -

models skills of learning and problem solving #ukedchat

didactylos 20:33

@ICTtower well I'd be pointing the to the door then, getting quite hard

edged about this in my old age! #ukedchat


A new ICT Curriculum online with links to 'how to' vid/examples,explanations, definitions, podcasts, GOT TO BE LUDITTE FRIENDLY!

#ukedchat

mberry 20:34

The ACM's model curric for CS is at http://is.gd/fCKsk - interested to

hear what place you'd all give programming in ICT education

#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:34

@chrismayoh There's so much more to ICT than just the computers!

Just So much more #ukedchat

philallman1 20:34

RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - Is it not a bit absurd 2 have a fixed

curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner driven?< Yes!


@ianaddison i do agree. i'm speaking as a HT! we don't have all the

answers!! #ukedchat (although have used pressure from parents to

push)

ICTEvangelist 20:34

@Crosbiei it is our job as ICT tchng profs 2 lead the way with ICT use

and skills & inspire other educators in their use of ICT #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:34

@ForesterJo do ad-hoc training, tonight I'm showing Boris how to use

2DIY, anyone else wanna come? I have biscuits #ukedchat

stevebunce 20:34

RT @CPDScotsman: #cpdqt John Connell launches CPD Question Timeon 21st Oct http://is.gd/fCIcN and also on http://bit.ly/cpdqt

#ukedchat

frogphilp 20:34

@kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and looked FAB for ICT. Ah

the irony/ #ukedchat

McLaughlin_Andy 20:34

RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not

a bit absurd 2 have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner

driven?

ianaddison 20:34

@mynictle from the top? Do you mean the #condem Gove-rnment?

No chance! #ukedchat

Ariellah 20:34

@janwebb21 my point being is that skills in the curriculum dependent

on when u start the ICT and ensure progression #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:34

RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago.

Now it should be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:34

@ICTtower #ukedchat I'd not want to see a doctor who used that

excuse..... #devilsadvocte

ParsleyBill 20:35

@Crosbiei: #ukedchat Enjoy XC teaching but... each subject offers a

distinct way of knowing the world e.g. empirically via Science.

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ForesterJo 20:35

@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat yes but people have to want to change and

keep up with the times too!

Mr_Thorne 20:35

@carolrainbow i just remember my school teachers not knowing which

way to insert a VHS cassette #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:35

RT @chrismayoh: @curricadvocate Focus on creating richer learningexperiences for pupils by learning and implementing new skills

#ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:35

@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat agree, the easier we make a new curric

for teachers e.g. offering all round support will ensure success

didactylos 20:35

@mynictle not if it was from Mr Gove..... #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:35

RT @ianaddison: @curricadvocate stuff 'em, work on the teachers that

do care and focus on the children in your class. Head's problem really?

#ukedchat

cleverfiend 20:35

RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not

a bit absurd 2 have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving

Ideas_Factory 20:35

@didactylos #ukedchat The 'curriculum' must be sufficiently broad so

that skills apply across a wide range of subjects


Will ICT mean something else in 5 years time? What future areas might

a new curriculum need to address? #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:35

@simonhaughton our website has been built with home access inmind, links to as much as possible, plus how-to for parent and ch

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:35

@Ariellah #ukedchat our curriculum is designed to be a spiral

curriculum wh allows skills to be built on as pupils progress through

school

ColinTGraham 20:35

Scheduled 4: Be able to create a blog entry and/or design a simple

webpage with links to other pages or sites #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:36

@Mr_Thorne but you would have been delighted to show them :-) -

Same is true today! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:36

RT @Mr_Thorne: @carolrainbow i just remember my school teachers

not knowing which way to insert a VHS cassette #ukedchat

Cgeo28 20:36

#ukedchat - the layout of an ICT space very important, much prefer

laptops as mobile. ICT classrooms haven't really changed over 20 yrs.

Ideas_Factory 20:36

RT @frogphilp: @kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and looked

FAB for ICT. Ah the irony/ #ukedchat

esoldaveglasgow 20:36

#ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learn about or teach

ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible unions would take

the lead.

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didactylos 20:36

@Ideas_Factory or alternatively the activities learners undergo are

sufficiently broad they acquire success skills for life? #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:36

RT @MoodleMcKean: RT @Ariellah: Does ICT has to start and end with

computers? what about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? > must

include all #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:36

@DeputyMitchell Questions like how to cope with embeddedprocessors and headsup displays embedded into the eye. #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:36

@Ariellah starting point is important but opportunities to revisit,

consolidate, develop and explore even more important #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:36

@Catriona_O Agree - a set of literacies is needed so that pupils know

how to cope with lots of aspects - software the least #ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:36

@Catriona_O difficult one, many teachers prefer a fixed curriculum

easier to follow, others don't. But outcomes matter most #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:36

@curricadvocate it'll happen though, kids in my class probably had

crap art and music skills, diff teachers have diff strengths? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:36

RT @ianaddison: @ForesterJo also important to give staff a copy to let

them play at home if they want to #ukedchat


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ForesterJo 20:37

@ianaddison #ukedchat hard when you only work 3 days, one night

taken with staff meeting! Am still trying though........

cloud_burst 20:37

#ukedchat giving students access to blended learning

janwebb21 20:37

RT @frogphilp: @kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and lookedFAB for ICT. Ah the irony/ #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:38

@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat still working on that........

frogphilp 20:38

Another vital ICT skill is REFLECTION. Children need to learn to keep

learning logs to keep tracks of mistakes and opportunites. #ukedchat

trees2066 20:38

#ukedchat by the time you wrote and published an IT curriculum it

would be out of date. School ethos and teacher skills the way

forward...

fcbsd 20:38

ICT is an add on subject - we should teach Computer Science - probably

the most important STEM subject for now and the future :~) #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:38

RT @ForesterJo: @ICTEvangelist #ukedchat yes but people have to

want to change and keep up with the times too!

carolrainbow 20:38

@frogphilp @kvnmcl #ukedchat If you read through the NC Pos for ICT

there is loads of scope - think new software - it is all there :-)

didactylos 20:38

@ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not keeping up to date yettheir effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:38

@kvnmcl #ukedchat - OK - agree but LEARNERS matter most and they

probably and always will know more than teachers here

philallman1 20:38

RT @cloud_burst: #ukedchat giving students access to blended

learning< like a mixed fruit smoothie all of their 5 a day in one go!

Crosbiei 20:38

@ICTEvangelist I agree. But we can't force others to follow our leads,

and they often cite lack of time for resisting change. #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:38

@skoorBttaM #ukedchat I'm ok with learning!

Ideas_Factory 20:38

RT @MoodleMcKean: We are preparing learners for jobs that don't

exist yet using technology which maybe outdated by the time they use

it in work #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:39

@ianaddison We do check. And some things are tools they need to

investigate/play with over the web (like prezi or purplemash)

#ukedchat

Ariellah 20:39

RT @MoodleMcKean: We are preparing learners for jobs that don't

exist yet using technology which outdated by the time they use #it

ukedchat

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kvnmcl 20:39

I truly believe that a completely open approach would be best but

that's just personal, it wouldn't work due to limited skills #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:39

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat at some point we stopped teaching how to

cut the quill pen and keep it sharp....

ICTtower 20:39

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat at some point we stopped teaching how tocut the quill pen and keep it sharp....

bartoneducation 20:39

Ask employers what skills they need. Intresting ones like games

developers and actuaries ?!? What do they want? #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:39

@bevevans22 #ukedchat amen Bev - ICT is about embracing any

technology 2 solve the many problems we are faced with-it shd make

life easier!

ICTtower 20:39

RT @esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learn

about or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged.

trees2066 20:39

RT @esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learn

about or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible

unions would take the lead.

philallman1 20:40

RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here -

one on tech and one on learning principles< not mutually exclusive

IMO

didactylos 20:40

@frogphilp #ukedchat which is of course why so many school

ban/block anything that is a blog!!! #theyjustdontgetit

kvnmcl 20:40

@Catriona_O completely agree, girl in my class did a presentation forclass, she taught herself #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:40

@carolrainbow Agree - big disaster is to completely throughout the

old. Heard of schools that have done that then failed Ofsted #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:40

@frogphilp @kvnmcl #ukedchat Did a blog post when we lost the new

curriculum http://tinyurl.com/378n57c about how I saw the ICT 2000

version

Mr_Thorne 20:40

@carolrainbow i'm ok with ICT, |& i like that the children see me as an

expert in many fields but i accept i'm still learning :) #ukedchat


Does 'Joe Pubilc' really understand much of the ground breaking work

that it is being done?# #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:40

@trees2066 i disagree, you would have to amend a curriculum from

time to time, but the core skills would be fairly standard #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:40

@ForesterJo @SkoorBttaM #ukedchat it would be all too easy to write

off those who r slower to change and adapt - fear factor can b

overcome

Catriona_O 20:40

#ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here - one on tech and

one on learning principles

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SkoorBttaM 20:40

RT @didactylos: @ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not

keeping up to date yet their effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring

#ukedchat

paulholio 20:40

@Laura_987 I'm listening in to #ukedchat, but I am positive I should be

doing something in particular...

MoodleMcKean 20:41

RT @bartoneducation: Ask employers what skills they need >>> willneed in the future thinking 5-10 yrs ahead ..difficult to do #ukedchat


@paulholio Surly not! Thurs, 8-9 = #ukedchat! simples!

Mr_Thorne 20:41

RT @didactylos: @ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not

keeping up to date yet their effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring

#ukedchat

islayian 20:41

RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here -

one on tech and one on learning principles


@ianaddison #ukedchat - sorry didn't mean to offend any musicians.

just jealous of your talents!!!

ForesterJo 20:41

#ukedchat I'll tell that to my two littlies!!!!!!! don't have a work life

balance as it is.....

Ideas_Factory 20:41

RT @ianaddison i disagree, you would have to amend a curriculum

from time to time, but the core skills would be fairly standard

#ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:41

@SkoorBttaM @didactylos @icttower we are empowering pupils toshare their skills to other pupils, ict champs #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:41

@fcbsd I agree to a certain extent #ukedchat - i think there's a place

for both, hence we teach both

Crosbiei 20:41

@MoodleMcKean That sounds like a line from 'ShiftHappens'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U If you havent seen

it. #ukedchat


@ianaddison #ukedchat that is a fair point! mine never got good music

teaching! the thing is not many will lose their way for lack of music?

ianaddison 20:42

@curricadvocate i only have ict talents! very little else :-) #ukedchat

colport 20:42

From this discussion, there seems a huge difference in pupils ICT

learning experiences from Key Stages to different schools :-( #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:42

@Catriona_O disagree that learners will always know more than

teachers. They may think they know, which is an interesting start

#ukedchat

Ariellah 20:42

Agreed! with @fcbsd: we should teach Computer Science - probably

the most important STEM subject for now and the future :~) #ukedchat

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ianaddison 20:42

@TheHeadsOffice joe public might not know/care about all this, but

my children and parents will do and that's all that matters #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:42

@frogphilp And they need to learn that making mistakes and taking

responsible risks are part of it too #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:42

RT @Mr_Thorne: @carolrainbow i'm ok with ICT, |& i like that thechildren see me as an expert in many fields but i accept i'm still

learning :) #ukedchat

cloud_burst 20:42

#ukedchat accessability - technology to help with identified needs -

equality and diversity

Crosbiei 20:43

@frogphilp @Catriona_O I wouldnt say they always know more, but

they quite often do! #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:43

@kvnmcl my son set up cloud system ona bashed old laptop still dont

know wht its & he was 8 at the time. i'll nevr B ahead of

him!#ukedchat

colport 20:43

Should schools emply ICT co-ord as the PPA cover teacher, teaching ICT

skills to most pupils in school? #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:43

@bevevans22 Yes - so many learners, teachers, administrations fearful

of mistakes... I wonder why? #ukedchat


@bevevans22 AGREE!! If they are not making mistakes then they are

not being challenged! #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:43

@janwebb21 Absolutely! Not jst the fear factor tho, its a whole newworld!! Live problem solving- too risky for some #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:43

@Mr_Thorne yes really just pointing out that pupils will actually enjoy

supporting a teacher who lacks confidence if given the opp #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:43

RT @bevevans22: @frogphilp And they need to learn that making

mistakes and taking responsible risks are part of it too #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:43

@janwebb21 #ukedchat I'm not writing them off am trying to show

them sometimes ICT saves time / can really motivate chdn etc can be

hard

janwebb21 20:44

@ForesterJo didn't mean to imply you were! takes time to change

mindsets/educational values/attitudes #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:44

@colport #ukedchat - why not all pupils?

hairysporan 20:44

just arrived #ukedchat what up people ? i know im late

SkoorBttaM 20:44

@ictprimarysch Definitely! I have an ICT team (of chn) who problem

solve for other chn and staff!! #ukedchat

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ianaddison 20:44

@JfB57 the top bods don't care about ICT!! #ukedchat

BryanPlumb 20:44

software & web dev' will always be transferable, desired skills, even

when the dev' languages taught to the chldrn become extinct

#ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:44

@colport #ukedchat I guess that's the problem with such an archaiccurric, some schools and teachers can get away with poor ict

experience

didactylos 20:44

@Ariellah when and to who? #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:44

#ukedchat For the final 3rd Let's talk 'Capability'

Skills+Thinking=Capability.Technical+Cognitive=Capability

chrismayoh 20:44

Going to have to duck out of #ukedchat - enjoy the last 15 minutes

folks :)

geraldhaigh1 20:44

Anyone remember that great paper 'The Sabre-Tooth Curriculum'?

Almost as significant for us years ago as "Shift Happens" is now.

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:44

@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat actually, it should be real, relevant robust

and include responsible risk taking!


@ianaddison Possibly but we need to get them to care for it to be

embedded! #ukedchat

Mr_Thorne 20:45

@carolrainbow i agree Carol. Children becoming the experts isessential! :) #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:45

@Crosbiei I admit 3 years ago one of my year 6 taught me HTML and

CSS. That was an interesting experience for me #ukedchat

philallman1 20:45

RT @bevevans22: @colport That seems to be a trend but whether it's

the right way forward is another thing...#ukedchat


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Laura_987 20:45

@colport Seen that done but does it mean class teachers have less

confidence to use ICT across the curriculum? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:45

@colport That seems to be a trend but whether it's the right way

forward is another thing...#ukedchat

ColinTGraham 20:45

Scheduled 5: Be able to use two or three search engines and criticallyassess the URLs listed on the first pages of the results #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:45

We are lucky in our dept to have staff who are specialists in diff areas,

mine is digital media #ukedchat

colport 20:45

@philallman1 No, it doesn't surprise ..but it does concern me! It's an

inequality within edu system. Imagine differences in Maths! #ukedchat

KnikiDavies 20:45

@colport then you can't embed anything and it becomes even more

detached #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:46

#ukedchat Pupils should be able to Develop ideas iteratively

LisaHandley 20:46

@colport same could be said of MFL, PE, art, music... #ukedchat

cloud_burst 20:46

#ukedchat we need to solve the digital divide so everyone has the

same opportunities

Catriona_O 20:46

@frogphilp @Crosbiei I say that as a total tech novice. But don't thinkI'm unusual in teaching #ukedchat

katie_hague 20:46

Late to #ukedchat One thing that really frustrates me is schools saying

priority is eg writing so they have not time to develop ict!

janwebb21 20:46

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Capability EG Cut & paste+Sequencing

info=Communicating effectively

hairysporan 20:46

the main problem i find with ICT is the lack of whole staff support for

new tech...so many sceptics out there #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:46

@trees2066 problem is too many of them do survive. #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:46

Except for your good results! RT @ianaddison: @JfB57 the top bods

don't care about ICT!! #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:46

#ukedchat Pupils should be able to Hypothesis-ask what if?questions


@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat in terms of those capabilities - good

starting point. develop a progression that leads towards indpndnce in

each?

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janwebb21 20:46

@ianaddison if they did harnessing technology wouldn't have been cut

by so much! #ukedchat

geraldhaigh1 20:46

Briefly, Sabre-Tooth Curric was satire about a civilisation still teaching

how to deal with ST Tigers long after they'd died out. #ukedchat

mattlovegrove 20:46

#ukedchat, @colport no, as this could take away the cross-curricularelement of ICT. It has the potential to

janwebb21 20:47

@squiggle7 @trees2066 don't we have a professional responsibility to

support less confident colleagues and to be patient with them

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:47

@katie_hague yet ICT can be a great way to engage reluctant writers.

#ukedchat

KnikiDavies 20:47

@ianaddison @colport we have pe and music ppa cover #UKedchat

and I do RE in exchange for PE and French

bevevans22 20:47

@philallman1 I used to teach ICT with the class teacher in the room as

support (and to pick up skills and ideas) - better I think #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:47

@TheHeadsOffice until ICT becomes free/cheaper, this government

will never give a... #ukedchat

mberry 20:47

Words not in the ICT national curriculum (PoS, 1999) KS2: 'computer'

'program' 'communication'. KS1: 'internet' 'web' 'computer'. #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:47

@colport I would say not, cos that would just give other teachersanother excuse not to develop these skills themselves. #ukedchat

colport 20:47

Wow - what a response. I am not in support of ICT Co-ord PPA cover as

less skill opp for staff. I think the issue is ICT CPD! #ukedchat

kvnmcl 20:48

@mberry unbelievable that communication wasn't mentioned in KS2

even when it formed part of the subject name #ukedchat

didactylos 20:48

@colport #ukedchat concept of Learned Helplessness - before staff can

do any ICT they need training..... needs challenging

Ideas_Factory 20:48

RT @colport: Wow - what a response. I am not in support of ICT Co-ord

PPA cover as less skill opp for staff. I think the issue is ICT CPD!

#ukedchat

ICTtower 20:48

RT @mberry: Words not in the ICT NC (PoS, 1999) KS2: 'computer'

'program' 'communication'. KS1: 'internet' 'web' 'computer'. #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:48

@colport IMO this makes the gap even wider than teachers who use

tech and those that don't! All staff need to take on board #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:48

RT @frogphilp: @Crosbiei I admit 3 years ago one of my year 6 taught

me HTML and CSS. That was an interesting experience for me

#ukedchat

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Ariellah 20:48

@didactylos Perhaps as part of the ICT Curriculum? progression could

provide opportunities for Computer Science professions at HS

#ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:48

@ianaddison #ukedchat rat's behind!


@mberry Worryingly little reference from this gov either! #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:48

@philallman1 not mutually exclusive of course but there has been very

little crossover between the 2 tonight #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:48

RT @ColinTGraham: Scheduled 5: Be able to use two or three search

engines and critically assess the URLs listed on the first pages of the

results #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:49

@janwebb21 of course we do, but still get lots that just won't change

&are allowed to get away with not meeting prof. standards #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:49

@Catriona_O #ukedchat I think there's been plenty of cross-over. Most

are talking ICT when mention learning-it applies to all

Crosbiei 20:49

RT @trees2066: #ukedchat teachers saying no to ICT are like doctors

refusing to use x-ray machines or shops who don't accept cards.

Unlikely to survive!

Mr_Thorne 20:49

#ukedchat i do find maths hard to wedge into an integrated curriculum

ICTtower 20:49

@ianaddison Interestingly, every time I see PoS I see a diff acronym inmy head...! #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:49

@frogphilp I get more excited about cdn teachin me things than I do

bout teachin them.Love it when kids take initiative to learn. #ukedchat

mattlovegrove 20:49

#ukedchat our challenge this year is that we have 4 new teachers they

need training on our software, as we're fairly open-source. Takes time

janwebb21 20:49

@ForesterJo #ukedchat I think the time it takes is a real shock - esp

when I hadn't been responsible for implementing change before!

bevevans22 20:49

@colport I agree. I now cover 2 teachers PPA time. Not a huge change

but means they don't pick up the skills to build on in class #ukedchat

philallman1 20:50

RT @didactylos: @colport #ukedchat concept of Learned Helplessness -

before staff can do any ICT they need training..... needs challenging


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@janwebb21 @squiggle7 @trees2066 #ukedchat and if not a direct prf

resp then a moral responsibility for equality of prov for the pupils

ICTtower 20:50

@janwebb21 Support yes, be patient...? Don't push it! ;-) #ukedchat

digitalspaces 20:50

RT @esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learnabout or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible

unions would take the lead.

katie_hague 20:50

@squiggle7 Absolutely! And help improve reading and maths - ict can

really motivate children and remove pressure from children. #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:50

@didactylos #ukedchat - we face the same problem of 'learned

helplessness' with students!

ictprimarysch 20:50

@Ideas_Factory @colport #ukedchat ict cps in its many forms using

online facilities as well

Ideas_Factory 20:51

#ukedchat Because of state of curriculum I don't think that teachers do

need to teach using ICT-that's thr prob-the curric not the teachers!

philallman1 20:51

RT @ForesterJo: @Ideas_Factory @colport Where do we fit this

in?#ukedchat < within the current curriculum not an add on - just

doesn't work!

mattlovegrove 20:51

#ukedchat a '1 hour a week' subject. This is what we want to avoid.

How are people planning ICT? Is anyone still using QCA?

hairysporan 20:51

in my area schools main prob is the access to new technologiesthrough LA server just far to slow la hate schools contrl of IT #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:51

RT @katie_hague: #ukedchat One thing that really frustrates me is schs

saying priority is eg writing so they have not time to develop ict!

carolrainbow 20:51

@mberry Curriculum 2000 was okay though - there is loads of scope

there to include all web 2.0 tolls etc #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:51

I think the mini teachmeet approach we've adopted in staff meetings

(re: sharing ICTideas) has been positive & has helped staff #ukedchat


@squiggle7 @katie_hague #ukedchat absolutely - anyone following

@DeputyMitchell 's class blogs - Liams writing has been an inspiaration

janwebb21 20:51

@ForesterJo #ukedchat as an implementer of change we need to learn

range of skills and understanding of the change process itself

SkoorBttaM 20:51

RT @Crosbiei: @frogphilp I get more excited about cdn teachin me

things than I do bout teachin them.Love it when kids take initiative to

learn. #ukedchat

mattlovegrove 20:51

#ukedchat, having said that, I teach Y2, but for an hour a week teach 1

Y6 class ICT. It's working well, but I can feel that ICT is becoming

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kvnmcl 20:51

I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in class.

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:51

@Ariellah its the age old debate about specialism versus generalism

and when to specialise and what gets lost when you do #ukedchat

Crosbiei 20:51

RT @ICTtower: @ianaddison Interestingly, every time I see PoS I see adiff acronym in my head...! #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:52

@bevevans22 sounds great! #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:52

@janwebb21 Of course, just jesting! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:52

@curricadvocate absolutely - but we also need to be sensitive to

colleagues #ukedchat

familysimpson 20:52

@digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat I too am sick of teachers

who undermine a child's education because they have 2 learn a new

pkg


@janwebb21 @ForesterJo #ukedchat but as well as understanding ch

man. processes we must have a clear vision. as a nation do we have

this?

ianaddison 20:52

@mattlovegrove my school were pre-QCA before I turned up. Betsi the

tudor dog for 7wks in Y4, rock on... http://bit.ly/ctBSdq #ukedchat

ForesterJo 20:52

@janwebb21 #ukedchat trying to drive forward Forest School and ICT -big challenge but firmly believe in both (and can be easliy linked)

squiggle7 20:52

@curricadvocate surely it would fall into the standard about having an

uptodate knowledge? #ukedchat

frogphilp 20:52

@Crosbiei Yes - I do a 'teach a concept' week 1 week in 4 - children

have to teach something they've learnt. #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:52

@kvnmcl #ukedchat a pencil is technology, just a very old kind

colport 20:52

Having major tech problems tonight for #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:52

@ICTtower patience? yes, adult learners need as much if not more

than children learners!!!!!! #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:52

EXACTLY! RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a

pencil in class. #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:52

@Ideas_Factory OK - I just don't want to get too hung up on the

technics of tech, or tech as discreet within curric #ukedchat

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Ariellah 20:52

RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in

class. #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:53

RT @ictprimarysch: @kvnmcl ict resources need to be selected within

the classroom, chn could share understanding thru paper, mike,

podcast, tweet etc #ukedchat


@squiggle7 #ukedchat - agree, as long as we have clear picture of whatthe up to date knwldge is in a rapidly changing world. who decides?

ICTEvangelist 20:53

RT @colport: Having major tech problems tonight for #ukedchat Doh!

carolrainbow 20:53

RT @ICTEvangelist: @didactylos #ukedchat - we face the same

problem of 'learned helplessness' with students! - Also in maths,

science, mfl..

ianaddison 20:53

@kvnmcl it needs to work as simply as a pencil then! #ukedchat

colport 20:53

@bevevans22 And do they have major ICT skills challenges

themselves? #ukedchat

mberry 20:53

@kvnmcl Yes, the irony had struck me too. 'technology' doesn't make

it in to the PoS either. To be fair 'communicate' does. #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:53

@Catriona_O #ukedchat Of course-most of ICT is not tech anyway-just

creative ways to use it!

katie_hague 20:53

@DeputyMitchell When I was on vle team, some schools wouldn't letme in due to this, when wikis/ forums would have had huge

impact.#ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:53

RT @ICTtower: EXACTLY! RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as

naturally as a pencil in class. #ukedchat

didactylos 20:53

@mattlovegrove Learned Helplessness http://ow.ly/2MxCc #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:53

RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in

class. #ukedchat


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@janwebb21 #ukedchat yes - and this is where the lead by example

can meet both demands. pupils must come first IMHO


@katie_hague It's terrible. Pressure from results can really blinker

people /schools! Such a shame!! #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:54

RT @familysimpson: @digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat Itoo am sick of teachers who undermine a child's education because

they have 2 learn a new pkg

Crosbiei 20:54

RT @familysimpson: @digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat I

too am sick of teachers who undermine a child's education because

they have 2 learn a new pkg

janwebb21 20:54

@curricadvocate #ukedchat I thought we were getting there - and

then the rose review bit the dust

katie_hague 20:54

#ukedchat We start all training sessions discussing need for ICT

capability, achieved by teaching skills and applying across curriculum

colport 20:54

@ForesterJo @philallman1 Time needs to be built in. INSET etc.

Serious consideration and time needs to be added in #ukedchat

didactylos 20:54

@ICTEvangelist some argue schools teach this in the way they operate.

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:55

@curricadvocate good question! #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:55

@kvnmcl totally agree, but when it doesn't work, it's always with Doristhe unconfident teacher #ukedchat


Resources (kit) vital. If a laptop in everyhome why not for every year 4

kid for example. Only 250m-same as child trust fund. #ukedchat

katie_hague 20:55

@DeputyMitchell We need to send you in with some of your kids! That

would convince them of use of tech in other subjects! #ukedchat

Catriona_O 20:55

@ianaddison do learners ever complain of their tech not working? they

seem to manage it fairly well???#ukedchat

frogphilp 20:55

Here's the Wordle for the National Curriculum Ks1 and 2

http://bit.ly/asSogH #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:55

@colport The staff are all at different skill levels but even the less

confident are having a go and experimenting #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:55

5 minutes remain for #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:55

@ICTtower lol! oops kids will tell me off for using that - apparently it's

no longer cool (neither is cool apparently) #ukedchat #oldfogey

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ICTEvangelist 20:55

@didactylos #ukedchat I would agree! It's one of the biggest problems

we face in our classrooms I think

SkoorBttaM 20:55

RT @Ideas_Factory: @Catriona_O #ukedchat Of course-most of ICT is

not tech anyway-just creative ways to use it!

CPDScotsman 20:55

@stevebunce cheers pal! #cpdqt #ukedchat

ICTtower 20:55

Lost power last week, I said "today we will use the greatest piece of

Info COmm Tech ever invented - the pen". Had to explain why

#ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:55

Good model of eCPD delivery: cascading just in time delivery utilising

viral learning via social networks, PLNs #ukedchat it works here!

ForesterJo 20:55

@janwebb21 #ukedchat think that the change in chdn is most

powerful tool we have! going to use e-books based on our forest

school next wk


We have CLCs in our LA & they seem to have lots of status. Anyone

else? #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:55

RT @janwebb21: @curricadvocate #ukedchat I thought we were

getting there - and then the rose review bit the dust Completely Agree!

ColinTGraham 20:55

Scheduled 6: Be able to explain when and how word processing,

spreadsheet, database and presentation apps may best be used

#ukedchat

ianaddison 20:56

@Catriona_O mine whinge a lot at the moment, but they're not usedto it in sch, they will be soon and will be able to deal with it #ukedchat


@Ideas_Factory @janwebb21 #ukedchat and in this world of 'freedom'

from Gove they could be a starting pt for a framework. never be

national

ictprimarysch 20:56

RT @ianaddison: @kvnmcl totally agree, but when it doesn't work, it's

always with Doris the unconfident teacher #ukedchat

colport 20:56

@bevevans22 That's all one can ask for #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:56

RT @Ideas_Factory: @Catriona_O #ukedchat Of course-most of ICT is

not tech anyway-just creative ways to use it!

ianaddison 20:56

@mattlovegrove in 4wks, we've blogged, wallwishered, used 2DIY and

next week trying 2create a super story. (that's in 1 yr grp) #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:56

@ForesterJo look forward to hearing all about it! it sounds really

exciting! #ukedchat

Ideas_Factory 20:56

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familysimpson 20:56

RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Pupils should be able to Develop ideas

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bevevans22 20:58

@colport One came in lunch time to ask if we had flip camera (been on

a course & seen 1 - took 1 to experiment with later in class #ukedchat

ictprimarysch 20:58

@kvnmcl but skills learned with first edition are still relevant for

iphone4 thus underlining need fir sound skills teaching #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:58

RT @mberry: @carolrainbow I think Curriculum 2000 is the 1999document, yes? It's greatest strength is its vagueness. Almost all is

permitted. #ukedchat

hairysporan 20:58

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