National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon th e United States Third Pub lic Hearing • July 9,2003 • Russell SOB, Room 253 Agenda fo r "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World" 9:00 AM Hearing Commences Opening Statement by Chairman Kean PANEL ONE: Al Qaeda Rohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute for Defence an d an d Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network o f Terror Mamoun Fandy, Seni or Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabia and the Politics o f Dissent Marc Sageman, Lecturer, Solomon Asch Center for the Study of Ethnopolitical Conflict, University of Pennsylvania 11:00 AM PANEL TWO: States an d Terrorism Laurie Mylroie, Adjunct Fellow, American Enterprise Institute an d author of Study o f Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W a r Against America Judith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow an d Middle East Project Director, Inst itute for National Strategic Studies, National Defense University Murhaf Jouejati, Adjunct Scholar, Middle East Institute and Lecturer, George Washington University Mark Gasiorowski, Professor of Political Scien ce, Louisiana State Univers ity 1:00 PM Break 2:00 P M PANEL THREE: Th e Challenge within th e Muslim World Rachel Bronson, Senior Fellow and Directo r of Middle East St udies, Council on Fore ign Relations Steven Emerson, Executive Direc tor of the Investigative Project an d author of American Jihad: T h e Terrorists Living Among U s Gilles Kepel, Profess or, Institute of Political Studies, Paris an d author o f Jihad: T he Trail of Political Islam Denni s Ross, Direct or and Ziegl er Distinguished Fellow, Washington Institute for Near East Policy 4:00 PM Hearing Concludes. Press availability to follow. All times and panels ar e subject to change. Visit www.9-llcommission.gov fo r most current information.
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Thank you for your e-mail. I a m responding by e-mail rather than by phonebecause it is currently 3 AM Paris time.
First, the entire hearing, inclu ding your panel, w ill occur on the 9th. (Yourpanel will be from 9 to 11 AM on the 9th. There will be two other panels laterin the day.)
Second, we will pay for business class. (Thank you for graciously pointing ou t
that you do not need reimburseme nt for a hotel roo m.)
Third, the other members of your panel are l)former Assistant Secretary ofState Richard Murph y, who is with the Council on Foreign Relations; 2)Professor John Esposito, who is Director of the Center fo r Christian-MuslimUnderstanding at Georgetown University; and 3) independent scholar StevenEmerson.
W e will call yo u tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon or evening Paris time to
finalize an d confirm. Thank you!
Yoel TobinStaff Member
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
> Dear Mr Tobin>> I'm now back in my Paris office. Could yo u be so kind as to give me a ring> as soon as you read this e-m ail, as I have to tighten my schedule if we> w ant to mak e it? It would actually be more conven ient for me w ere it to> take place on the 9th rather than the eight.>
> Many thanks fo r letting me know asap
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> All best>> G K>>> A t 10:29 19/06/03 -0400, vous avez ecrit:
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> >Dear Professor Kepel:»> >It was a pleasure talking to you today. If you wo uld like to learn more> >about
> >the Comm ission, our web site is http://www.9-l lcommission.gov . As we> >discussed, I will call you shortly to follow up on our discussion today.»> >Yoel Tobin
»Staff Member> >National Comm ission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
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Notes from Conference Call with Team 1June 26, 2003
Participants: Commission staff members: Ellie Hartz , Stephanie Kaplan, EmilyWalker,Team 1: Tom D owling, Nicole G randrimo, Yoel TobinFSC: Carol Ashley, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Beverly Eckert, MonicaGabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Carie Lemack, Robin Wiener, Lorie Van Auken
Families of September 11th: Stephen Push
Family Steering Committee Perspective
1) Althou gh there is value in a brief overview of the Al Qaeda and terrorismfrom an historical perspective, the Commission's public hearings should be more
substantive and investigative in nature.
2) To heigh ten public support and respect for its investigation, the Com missionshould publicly explore our government's links to Al
Qaeda:* include public testimony of field agents with first hand knowledge of Al
Qaeda, who can speak to our government's involvement, policies an d failures* suggested witnesses* anonymou s author of "Through Our Enemy's Eyes"* Jean C harles Brissard
* O ' Neil colleague(s)* Ray McGovern, CIA analyst for 27 years
3) The C ommission should publicly ask specific qu estions about the Al Qaeda
groupas it relates to September 11th
4) The families and the public are seeking accou ntability and assurances thatth e factors contributing to the terrorist attacks have been corrected so that
we are safer now .
June 28, 2003
Dear Commissioners:
Months ago, we were told that each topic in the Commission's mandate will haveon e public hearing and Al Qaeda is scheduled fo r July 9th. After learningdetails
of th e agenda fo r that hearing, w e have concerns that, in its current format,
salient questions w ill not be asked pu blicly.
To combat the lack of favorable press thus far, the Commission can use theupcoming public hea ring to polish its image. R ather than expen ding its limitedtime and resources on a strictly informationa l forum about Al Qaeda and state-sponsored terrorism, th e Comm ission should schedule public testimony from field
agents and others with first hand knowledge of Al Qaeda, who can speak to ourgovernment's involveme nt and policies. A sking crucial questions of thosewitnesses about interrelationships between the oil industry, our government,
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Saudi Arabia, the CIA and Al Qaeda will attest to the 9/11 Commission's resolve
to fulfill its mandate for a rigorous investigation.
We are frustrated that the administration and various government agencies arestalling and are giving only token coo peration while their possible m alfeasanceand culpa bility rema in undisclosed and, seemingly, uncha llenged. Bureaucratsare still protecting their turf and no one seems to be ch allenging that
behavior.Isnt
this the same environm ent that led to September 11th? Have anylessons been learned?
We consider the work of the Comm ission to be an investigation into the murderof 3,000 people. The Commission m ust ferret out all contr ibuting factors,regardless of whether they involve mistakes, incompetence or something moresinister. Then, and only then, w ill the full accountability we seek beachieved. Only then will the Commission be able to make cogent recommendations
fo r protecting ou r nation from future terrorist attacks.
Sincerely,
The Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Independent Comm ission
FSC Questions abou t Al Qaeda and State Sponsored Terrorism
1) Wh at connections did our governm ent have with the terrorists prior to 9/11?
* State department negotiations with Taliban re: pipeline through Afghanistan
* interaction with the Taliban and/or bin Lade n* CIA training an d arming of terrorists
2) W hat is the state of the Afghan pipeline now ?* When was the deal to co nstruct it finalized?
* Who was involved?* How is the pipeline being protected?* Who profits from the connections as the pipeline passes through each country?* Who has rights to the pipeline?
3) Why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism?
4) Why are the FBI and CIA seeking to exclude evidence abo ut Saudi involvementwith terrorists (See Exclusive: CIA and FBI press Congress to exclude
intelligence on the Saudi role with 9/11 terrorists by Linda R obinson andEdward T. Pound: http://www .usnews.com/usnews/usinfo/press/saudi.htm )
5) In what ways might ou r government's policies toward Saudi Arabia have
contributed to September 11th?
6) Why was Saudi Arabia given preferential treatment above all othernations in imm igration? (Visa Express)
* W hat was the reason for creating the Visa Express?* Prior to Sept. 11, Visa Express permitted approximately 97 percent of Saudiapplicants to obtain visas without face-to-face interviewshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73485,00.html
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7) Why w ere bin Laden's Saudi relatives wh isked out of Am erica so quickly whenother planes were grounded after the attacks?* Who gave perm ission for them to leave?
8) On September 9th the president had a war plan on his desk to go intoAfghanistan.
* What was the origin of this plan?
* Why was this plan drawn up even before the September 11th attacks?
9) Intelligence was told in March of 2001 to back off investigating terrorists.* Who gave the order?
* W h y ?
10) Why did Donald Rum sfeld, immediately after the September 11th attack, saythat Saddam H ussein was involved?
11) Does the FBI h ave proof that it was in fact Al Qaeda that perpetrated 9/11 ?* Do they kn ow if the names the hijackers used were their real name s?
12) Did Atif Ahmad have a connection to Atta as well as to Moussaoui?* Is Atif Ahm ed a British double agent?
13) W hat is the tru th about the arrest of El Atriss who sold fake IDs to two9/11 terrorists? There are discrepancies between the NY Times and WashingtonPost accounts of his arrest and release.
* Atriss is an Egyptian national who committed a crime. W hy hasnt he been
deported?
14) Who were the terrorist info rman ts work ing with the F BI?a.) What did the FBI learn from them?
b. ) What were the 9/11 warnings provided by these informants?c.) What w as done with these warn ings to protect the American pub lic?
15) How did, and do, US energy policies play into Islamic terrorism?
* the Caspian Sea pipeline?* Dick Cheney's energy task force?
16) How do corporate and big busine ss interests play into foreign policydecisions?* Enron pre 9/11; Halliburton, Bechtel pre and post 9/11?
* Wh at are the names of the companies w hich are getting contracts in foreigncountries and how do they influence ou r foreign policy?
17) What role did American think tanks, which make policy recommendations to theadministration, play in Am erican foreign policy decisions and the proliferationof Al Qaeda?
18) Regarding sharing of intelligence pre and post 9/11:* Did U.S. intelligence agencies share info rma tion about Al Qaeda with foreigngovernments?* Did foreign governments share information with our government about Al Qaeda?* If so, what inform ation was shared abo ut threats w ithin the U.S. and from
which countries did it come?* Who received this information an d what did they do with it?* What changes have been made in sharing intelligence?
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19) Why did President Bu sh specifically request a briefing on Al Qaeda in
August 2001?
20) What is the connection between the Bush family and bin Laden?
21) Regarding the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is a collaborationbetween the FBI and NYPD, also at times NYS Police, NY/NJ Port Authority PD and
theUS Secret Service:
* w as the JTTF aware of 20 warnin gs of an im pending terrorist w hich werementioned in Joint Intelligence Inquiry testimony?* What did the JTTF know prior to 9/11 regarding potential terrorist attacks inNY C and specifically, the W TC?* Was the JTTF informed of any warnings regarding the impending attacks fromagencies of foreign governments?* What was the nature of the warnings?* Wh at, if any, security precautions were taken as a result of the war nings?* W hat inform ation did the JTTF pass up the chain of comm and?
22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism :* W hy did Mahm ood A hm ed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI) orderSaeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta?
* What was Mahm ood Ahm ed's relationship w ith Al Qaeda?* Where did the money come from?* Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack?* O n Septem ber 11th, Mahm ood A hmed had a breakfast m eeting in Washington, D.C.with House and Senate Intelligence C om m ittee chairm en, Rep. Porter G oss andSenator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?
23) To combat terrorism* W hat sanctions can the U.S. place on indiv idua ls of non-terrorist stateswh o aided and abetted terrorists through funding or other means?* If there is no recourse, will the CIA continu e to m onitor their activitiesin the future?
* Will the State Department and other allied countries seek to ban their entry
into the U.S. and their nations?* Ho w long does an indiv idual rem ain a terrorist threat according to ourpolicies?* W ill those individuals be banned from doin g business with the U .S.?* Since September llth, has our government developed specific policies
regarding individ ual sponsors of terrorism?
24 ) Were individu als with ties to terrorists or states wh ich sponsor terrorisminvolved in shorting airline an d other stocks w hich were im pacted by the
terrorist attacks on September 11th?
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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Public Hearing • July 9, 2003 • Location (tentative) 253 Russell SOB
Draft Agenda for "Terrorism,Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"
9:00 Ajyi Hearing Commences
Opening Statement by Chairman Kean
\L ONE: Al Qaeda
Roharj Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute for Defence
\.and. Strategic Studies, Singapore and author of Inside A l Qaeda: Global Network of Terror
[anipun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Instituteof Peace an d authorof Saifdi Arabia
'and th e Politics of Dissent _ * „ . ,-\ • jWao
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PANEL TWQrStates and Terrorism
"LaurieMylroie; author of S tudy of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W a r Against
America \ Juu^ihv¥apne?;Senlpr7Ke.sfRrSrp'HejiwcaM Institute fo r Nat io
Strategic Studies, National Pefense University -Cjrt" [a ! ) "\_ Nou^c.
M u r h a f Joueja t i . Sch6lar-in-Residence at theMiddle East Instituteand a lecturer at _ , ^
Georgetewn University. V * / °s 03/ n
1:00 PM
2:00 P M
Ma rk Gasiorowslg, Professor of Political Science, Louisiana State University
Break/
PANEL THREE: The Challenge within the Muslim World
Richard Mu rp h y , Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for the Middle East at the C r m n d l on
Foreign Relations
4:00 PM
[GifleslCepeljjProfessor, Instituteof Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: T h e Tra i l
of Political M a m
Steven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and authorof Amem.
J ihad: T h e Terrorists Living Among Us*.
John Esposito, Professor of Religion and InlBI'nallo'hil Affairs and of1 Islamic Studies, anc
Founding Director, Center fo r Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University
Hearing Concludes. Press availability to follow.
A ll times a nd pane ls a re subject to change. Visit www.9-llcommission.gov for the most current information.
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CSTPV — Centre for the Study of Terrorism an d Political Violence Page 1 of 1
CSTPVCentre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence
A bou t C S TP V Mission Statement:Centre Staff
Research TheCentre fortheStudyQfTerrorjsmandPo|itica|Violence (CSTPV)
P hi'OUfS wasesta':|lished in 1994. Itaims to investigate the roots of politicalu ica ions violence, to develop a body o f theory spanning it s various disparate
P^ elements, and to study the impact o f violence, and responses to it, at
Centre for the Study of Dr Magnus RanstorpTerror ism andPolitical Violence DirectorUniversity of St Andrews Tel: +44 (0)1334 462933S t Andrews, Fife KY16 9A L or +44 (0)7711 066025United Kingdom Email: [email protected]
Tel: +44 (0)1334 476161 Professor Paul WilkinsonFax: +44 (0)1334 462937 Chairperson
About CSTPVCentre for the Study o f Terrorism and Political Violence
AimsOrganisationMain Activities of CSTPVPlans for Future ProjectsFunding
Aims
The Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence (CSTPV)wa s established in 1994. It aims to investigate the roots of politicalviolence, to develop a body of theory spanning its various disparateelements, and to study the impact of violence, and responses to it, atsocietal, governmental, and international levels.
Organisation
The Centre is part of the School of Social Sciences in the University andis affiliated to the Department of International Relations, an d three of thesenior staff of the Centre are full teaching members of the Department ofInternational Relations (Professor Wilkinson, Dr. R anstorp and DrRichmond).
The general policy of the Centre is developed in collaboration with theCSTPV A dvisory Council. The Council m embership is as follows:
Mr Carl Bildt (former Swedish Prime Minister and UN Envoy for the
Balkans)Mr Jayantha Dhanapala (UN Under Secretary General forDisarmament)Mr Giandomenico Picco (UN Under Secretary General)Professor John Beath (Head of School of Social Sciences)Professor Alex P. Schmid (Erasmus University & UN TerrorismPrevention Branch)Professor Martha Crenshaw (Wesleyan University)Professor Paul Wilkinson (Chairman an d Director, CSTPV )Mr Brian Jenkins
Main Activities of CSTPV
Th e Centre has a wide-ranging and intensive research programme. Th eprojects undertaken reflect the specialist interests of staff members andthe availability of research funding from external funding organisations.
Professor Wilkinson ha s specialised for ma ny years in researchingdemocra tic and international responses to terrorism , and on the specificproblems of aviation terrorism and security. His most recent books areAviation Terrorism an d Security (with Brian Jenkins) and TerrorismVersus democracy: The Liberal State Response .
Dr Magnus Ranstorp specialises in the study of political violence andterrorism in the Middle East and in particular the growth and influence offundamentalist Islamist movements. His latest book is Hizballah inLebanon: The Politics of the Western Hostage Crisis. He is currentlycompleting a textbook on The Changing Face of Terrorism as well as abook entitled In the S ervice of AI-Qaeda: Radical Islamic Movements.
Dr Oliver Richmond is a specialist in the study of conflict resolution. Hislatest book, The UN and Security, was published last autumn.
Dr Rohan Gunaratna has specialised in two aspects of the study ofterrorism: trends an d developments in terrorism in Asia, and thedevelopment and roles of the international support ne tworks of terroristorganisations.
Plans for Future Projects
Collaborative Projec ts with Business
CSTPV already has a strong record of cooperation with particularindustries, notably civil aviation, tourism, the security industry, and the
mass media in the m onitoring and an alysis of trends in terrorism andpolitical violence affecting particular sectors. Subject to availability ofresources and the continuing interest of business and industry in our field
of specialism, w e plan to extend this work.
An Investigation into the Extent and Quality of Teaching
about Political Violence in Higher Education
CSTPV plans to seek funding fo r this project from the EuropeanCommission an d other E uropean bodies to conduct a pilot study involvingEuropean universit ies an d higher education institutes. If successful, thisproject would be extended with studies of higher ed ucation work in this
field in other regions of the world.
Th e Domestic Management of Terrorist Attacks in the UK
In January 2002, the Economic and Social Research Council, a major UKgrant -- awarding body, invited proposals for rese arch on the UKresponse to 9/11 and its afterm ath, which wo uld concentrate on thedomestic management of terrorist attacks in the UK. A success ful jointbid was submitted by the Centre for the Study of Terror ism an d PoliticalViolence at St Andrew s University and the M ountbatten Centre forInternational Studies at Southampton University. The project is headedby Profe ssor Paul Wilkinson of St Andrews. Th e Southampton team is ledby Frank Gregory and includes Professor John Simpson and Dr Darryl
Howlett. Tw o other projects have also been funde d by the ESRCinitiative; one is based in King's College, London (Pr ofe sso r Sir Lawre nceFreedman) and the other is at Lancaster University (Professor MichaelDillon)
The St Andrews - Southampton Project's principle goal is to investigateand assess the quality of U K m anagement of possible or actual terroristattacks. The project seeks to provide a comprehensive analysis of the
state of the UK response, based on past experience and the impact of9/11. It will look at both public and private sector response issues. It will