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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURTSOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,V.
MOKHTAR HAOUARI,Defendant.
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HON. JOHN F . K E E N :
APPEARANCES15
16MARY JO WHITE
United States Attorney fo r theSouthern District o f New York17181920
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JOSEPH F. BIANCOROBIN BAKER
Assistant United States AttorneysDANIEL OLLEN
Attorney for DefendantAlso present:
ADAM COHEN, Special Agent,JAMES HELLY, Special Agent,ISABELLE DUCHESNEMONIQUE DELIYANIDISFrench Interpreters
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S4 00 Cr. 15 (JFK)
July 3, 20019:15 a.m.
District Judge
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1 take. There's a chance you'll be getting the case next
2 Wednesday. In other words, it will definitely be over a lot3 quicker than originally anticipated and there's a chance4 you'll be getting it Wednesday of next week. So that you know5 that. And I'll see you then, please, on Thursday, July the6 5th at 11:30.7 Thank you very much. Have a nice 4th of July.8 THE JURY: You, too.
9 (Jury excused)10 (In open court; jury not present)11 THE COURT: Do counsel need me for anything?12 MR. OLLEN: No, your Honor.13 MR. BIANCO: No, your Honor.14 THE COURT: Have a nice holiday.15 MR. BIANCO: You, too, your Honor.16 (Proceedings adjourned to July 5 at 11:30 a.m.)
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1 street. If you go swimming over the weekend, go in the2 shallow end of the pool. If you see me on the golf course, go3 play the other 9, because I will be all over the place. All4 right. Thank you all again for your cooperation and for5 telling Ms. Spencer to let us know about it. Thank you.6 You may continue cross-examination, Mr. Ollen.7 MR. OLLEN: Thank you, judge.8 AHMED RESSAM, resumed.9 (Through interpreter)10 CROSS-EXAMINATION (Continuing)11 BY MR. OLLEN:12 Q. Mr. Ressam, you told us on direct examination that there13141516171819202122232425
came a time where you discussed your views about the UnitedStates with Mr. Haouari, correct?A. Yes, I discussed certain issues.Q. You told us on direct examination that you toldMr. Haouari that the United States was an enemy of Islam andit was better to hit the biggest enemy, America, correct?A. Yes.Q. Do you remember on May 17, 2001, meeting in Seattle withassistant United States attorneys, your lawyers, and federalagents?A. Yes.Q. Do you recall telling all those law enforcement people onthat day that you do not recall if you ever discussed your
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176VHAO2 716Ressam - recross1 Your Honor, based on that stipulation, the government2 offers Exhibits 288, 288A and 442.3 MR. OLLEN: No objection.4 THE COURT: Received.5 (Government's Exhibits 288, 288A and 442 received in6 evidence)7 (Continued on next page)8
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