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Should a 10cm fibroid be removed laparoscopically or by laparotomy Laparotomy…….Peter Maher
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Page 1: Should a !0cm fibroid be removed laparoscopically or by ... · activity(Garcia&Tureck,1984,Huszar&Walsh, 1989) • Vascular changes ↓ blood flow to fibroids and surrounding tissues

Should a 10cm fibroid be removed

laparoscopically or by laparotomy

Laparotomy…….Peter Maher

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Purpose of the debate

• Laparoscopy v.laparotomy

• Concept of “mine’s bigger than yours”

• Should we do it at all?

• Will we inadvertantly morsellate a LMS?

• I’m not sure!

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Atlee (USA) 1845

First Myomectomy

Removal of a fibrous tumour of the

uterus

Amer J Med Sci

(1845);11:309-35

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Since cure without deformity or

loss of function must ever be

surgery’s highest ideal,the general

proposition that myomectomy is a

greater surgical achievement than

hysterectomy is incontestable.

Victor Bonney

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Consider the old adage…

“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!!”

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Uterine myomas have been

quoted as the most common

tumours of women in the

reproductive age (20-77%)

Graves 1933, Cramer et

al,1990

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Cramer and Patel,1990

Amer.J.Clin.Path

• 2mm.serial sections 100 hyst.specimens

• Patients pre- and postmenopausal

• Exam @ 2mm.levels tripled the pick-up cf.routine pathology

• Pre- and postmenopausal group same

• CONCLUSION: if the incidence is based on routine pathology

alone then the incidence will be grossly understated.

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Social impact of Myomas

• In Australia 21.7% hysterectomies for fibroids

(incidence hysterectomy 4/1000 women)

• In USA,27% for fibroids (600,000 hysts./year)

• Finland,50% for fibroids (incidence 3.9/1000)

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Treatment of fibroids when considered

necessary

• Individualised based on:

• Symptoms

• Size and location

• Age/fertility desire

• Availability of therapy

• Ability of the therapist

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The majority of fibroids are

asymptomatic and require no

treatment

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Why remove myomas at all?

-most quoted indications

• 1) Menorrhagia

• 2) Infertility• 3)Recurrent pregnancy loss

• 4)Pregnancy complications

• 5)Pressure symptoms

• 6)Suspected neoplastic change

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Menorrhagia and fibroids

-close relationship particularly

related to s/m fibroids but a poorly

understood.

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Pressure

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Incidence of myomas in infertile

women without any other cause for

infertility~1-2.4%

Buttram,Reiter,1981,Verhauf 1992

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The relationship between the

presence of fibroids and infertility

is,

to say the least,

controversial.

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The Questions are:

Do women who have fibroids

have decreased fertility?

If a woman is infertile,is there a

direct link between the presence

of fibroids and her infertility?

Should they be removed?

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What are the possible mechanisms

leading to infertility when fibroids are

present?

• Anatomical position-submucosal cf. others

• Dysfunctional muscle contractility-> interference

with sperm & ovum transport, implantation.

(Vollenhoven et al,1996)

• Focal endometrial vascular abnormalities,

inflammation, secretion of vaso-active substances or

↑ androgen enviroment

(Buttram,Reiter,1981,Delegdish et al.,1970

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Infertility-How?

More theories.

• ?anovulation (Miller,1955,Med.J.O&G)

• ?interfering with sperm transport or interfering with sperm capture due to cervical distortion with fibroids (Hunt&Wallach,1974)

• Cornual myomas ►distortion of Fallopian.tube (Gardner&Shaw,1989)

• Ulceration of endometrium,↑ in myometrial activity(Garcia&Tureck,1984,Huszar&Walsh, 1989)

• Vascular changes►↓ blood flow to fibroids and surrounding tissues (Forsmann,1996,Acta O&G.Scand.)

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Some agreement ,some conflict

• Fibroids < 7cm.,no cavity distortion,no difference in PR at IVF

(39 v. 34%) Ramzy et al.1998,Jun et al,2001

• Retrospective case controlled study,fibroids but no cavity

distortion,IVF rates the same (Surrey et al,2001)

• These results in contradiction to the Monash results (D.Healy et

al)

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Cochrane Database System Review 2012

• Surgical treatment of fibroids for

subfertility (Metwally et

al.)Insufficient evidence from

RCTs to evaluate the role of

myomectomy to improve fertility

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Risk of morsellation?

Do we avoid it with laparotomy

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PJM MERCY PERTH 2008

What

comprises a

mini-

laparotomy?

5.5cm

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9cm. fibroid

through 5.5 cm.

incision

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PJM MERCY PERTH 2008

???LMS

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A storm in a tea cup or a reality?

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Risk as yet undetermined but

quoted anywhere between

1/400 t0 1/4000(meta-analysis

Europe)

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Offer any patient <1/1000

chance of a serious

complication and she will have

any operation if it is justified

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One can draw a ridiculous

conclusion from this discussion:

Any women with a fibroid ,in

reality, has the same risk of

malignancy therefore any”sensible

thinking person” would opt for a

NO TOUCH hysterectomy to avoid

the possibility of malignancy!!!!

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This ‘problem’ is not new.

Having recently read every copy

of the now defunct journal

‘Gynaecological Endoscopy’

there were several reports(that

is what this is,a case report) of

undiagnosed cancers following

routine gyaecological operations

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Scientific research and outcomes

have always been the basis of

management in medicine,not case

reports and it is almost impossible

to get a case report published in a

scientific journal of any standing(as

judged by the impact factor.

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Guidelines

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Laparoscopy or laparotomy?

• Get the indications right!!

• Size does matter BUT so does position!

• Make sure you know the desired outcome!

• Make sure you can do the operation either open or closed!

• Discuss options and be honest with your patient and honest

with yourself.

• THERE IS NO RIGHT WAY OR WRONG WAY!!!!!

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PJM MERCYENDOSURG

I think the answer is hidden!!