#RNchat Transcript October 13, 2011

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RNchat Good evening/morning wherever you are. Welcome to #RNchat. Let's begin withintroductions and then on to the chat!

Thu Oct 13 18:00:05 PDT 2011

RNchat Doesn't seem like anybody's on #RNchat. I'll cancel it at 9:15pm if it's a dud.Thu Oct 13 18:05:57 PDT 2011

HealthIsSocial Doesn't seem like anybody's on #RNchat. I'll cancel it at 9:15pm if it's a dud.Thu Oct 13 18:05:58 PDT 2011

MD_chat Doesn't seem like anybody's on #RNchat. I'll cancel it at 9:15pm if it's a dud.Thu Oct 13 18:05:58 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 Hi all! Student nurse, finishing school in 3 days, and been missing on #RNchat forseveral months now. Good to be back!Thu Oct 13 18:06:32 PDT 2011

RNchat @NurseChris87 Good evening and welcome. We'll wait a bit, but turnout is very low.#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:07:29 PDT 2011

Mom4csfj Congrats!!!! RT @NurseChris87: Hi all! Student nurse, finishing school in 3 days, andbeen missing on #RNchat for several months now. Go ...

Thu Oct 13 18:07:43 PDT 2011


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Wanderer_RN Hears crickets... I'm Tom, charge nurse, tele nurse, occasional rabble rouser. Wakingup from a long stretch of shifts. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:08:31 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 Hi all wellness nurse not sure how this works but hoping for a good turnout! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:08:41 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 Awww...seems a lot of people are MIA this evening, a shame. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:09:00 PDT 2011

RNchat Alright, I'll throw up the topic and see if anybody else shows up. #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:09:03 PDT 2011

RNchat T1 OccupyHealth: How might OccupyWallStreet impact discourse re: healthcarereform? What are your hopes/concerns? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:09:12 PDT 2011

SarahBethRN I'll chime in. sarah beth, rn blogger, social media consultant, nurse #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:09:45 PDT 2011

RNchat @SarahBethRN Hi, Sarah Beth. #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:10:11 PDT 2011

Mom4csfj @RNChat Hey there!!!! 4 months left of school for me...how is everyone?? #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:10:31 PDT 2011

NateOsit Hey all , Nate here! I think I got my thoughts out on this during tuesday's MDchat, but

I'm curious what nurses think! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:11:09 PDT 2011

NurseSallie Sallie PNP here #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:11:32 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN T1: They're too disparate of entities, adding discourse about health care only muddiesOWS more. It is one aspect of the 99%. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:11:52 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 T1: Biggest concern is that those advocating for health care reform won't be takenseriously due to unfavourable media portrayal #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:12:26 PDT 2011

SarahBethRN link to tuesday's #MDchat transcript? #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:12:33 PDT 2011

RNchat @NurseMisty19 Hi and welcome. Here's a video explaining it http://t.co/erGRNmj3#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:12:57 PDT 2011


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NateOsit @Wanderer_RN Doesn't the lack of real discourse on healthcare reform speak to thefirm control money has on poli tics? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:13:57 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Hey, jumping in for a bit! #OWS is abt dialogue. I asked fellow nurse friends abt it 2day& was pleased to discover 8 of 10 approved #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:14:14 PDT 2011

NurseChris87ie. From the (very little) coverage I've seen, seems critics frame demonstrators asnaive hippies #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:14:37 PDT 2011

NurseSallie Some poli sci people think it is following similar pattern to civil rights movement ...#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:14:40 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 There is a lot of unfavorable media coverage regarding both occupy wall street andhealthcare reform #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:14:58 PDT 2011

NurseSallie ... So maybe eventually the rest of us will see the light? #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:15:00 PDT 2011

VirtualRN Heather lurking in a tired state not feeling real chatty #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:15:01 PDT 2011

Mom4csfj @RNChat To be honest, not sure what the whole healthcare reform is about. I hatepolitics. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:15:03 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN @NateOsit I think thats what my addled brain was trying to come up with. Nit enoughsleep! #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:15:03 PDT 2011

NurseSallie Nurses are generally so apolitical it takes alot to make us act. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:15:55 PDT 2011

RNchat @VirtualRN Hello. No worries. It's good to just kick back too. ;) #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:15:57 PDT 2011

NateOsit @Wanderer_RN LOL, I'm recovering from a 20 hour day yesterday myself...Insomniacs unite! ;) #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:16:29 PDT 2011

RNchat @Mom4csfj No sane person likes politics ;) In terms of nursing, though, what kinds ofcommunity movements do we need? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:16:50 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NurseSallie Have to disagree with you on that one; professional organization herestates all forms of nursing are political acts #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:16:58 PDT 2011


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NateOsit I think it can be difficult to see it thru lens of media RT @NurseSallie: ... So maybeeventually the rest of us will see the light? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:17:15 PDT 2011

SarahBethRN I'm not much in to discussing politics. Side note: Has anyone seen Ides of March?#RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:17:31 PDT 2011

RNchat @SarahBethRN Here's the transcript of Tuesday's #MDchat Same Q but for #RNChathttp://t.co/DElx5viVThu Oct 13 18:17:58 PDT 2011

ClinicalOne Tell us why you love being a nurse at http://t.co/tRHJnRHZand you could win $10,000.#rnchat#RandstadInspires#RN#nurses

Thu Oct 13 18:18:38 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NateOsit Media is certainly have a hard time wrapping its arms around OWS.#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:19:26 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse It's been a while since I've been able to attend! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:19:27 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @RNchat Big believer in using community movements to address social determinantsof health; e.g. decreasing poverty improves heal th #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:19:28 PDT 2011

RNchat @ClinicalOne Not right now, not during #RNchat - it's live now. Before or after, butplease be respectful. Thank you.Thu Oct 13 18:19:30 PDT 2011

Mom4csfj @RNChat I truly believe in free healthscreen clinics....basic vitals, glucose,assessments..etc for low income communities. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:19:53 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN Welcome back! RT @TheNerdyNurse: Its been a while since Ive been able to attend!#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:20:16 PDT 2011

SarahBethRN glad you are here! RT @TheNerdyNurse: Its been a while since Ive been able toattend! #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:20:58 PDT 2011

NateOsit @NurseSallie I think it reflects the political system. They're looking 4 the sound byte,but what we need is an honest conversation #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:21:07 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Seems the workplace & nursing orgs often differ. RT @NurseSallie: Nurses aregenerally so apolitical it takes alot to make us act. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:21:11 PDT 2011


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TheNerdyNurse @Wanderer_RN thank you very much! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:21:16 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN Evening every one from SFO. #RnchatThu Oct 13 18:21:24 PDT 2011

RNchat @thenerdynurse Hey there - good to see you. #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:21:30 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn +1 MT @NateOsit: @NurseSallie I think it reflects political system. They're looking 4sound byte, we need is an honest conversation #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:22:02 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @amyrnbsn we're just so used to making what we have work. It's sometimes difficultknow what needs to be fought for. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:22:08 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NateOsit Exactly the coverage is still way off. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:22:16 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @GerryWiederRN good evening welcome! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:22:29 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN You're right, too biased! RT @NurseSallie: @NateOsit Exactly the coverage is still wayoff. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:23:10 PDT 2011

NurseSallie Aligning self interest, professional interest, and social justice is difficult. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:23:21 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @Mom4csfj Canadian here. Clinic access here is free-ish but economic socialmovement would promote wellness, as almost a side effect #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:23:24 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 Just now joining! #RNchat#nur3563 my name is rachel hiebert, labor and deliverynurse/student from springfield, mo

Thu Oct 13 18:23:26 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn @TheNerdyNurse Yes! Definitely. And there are no obvious teach-ins on how to getinvolved as #nurses. #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:23:51 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse as an informacists, I see this all too often. Nurses won't often tell us things are broken.They just work around it. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:23:51 PDT 2011

SarahBethRN bc we have to! RT @TheNerdyNurse: I see this all too often. Nurses wont often tell usthings are broken. They just work around it. #RNChat


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Thu Oct 13 18:24:36 PDT 2011

HospitalPatient #Doctor & #Patient or #Provider & #Consumer? Read NEW Blog Post athttp://t.co/h2KCkSrn#MDChat#mccsm#physicians#nurses#RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:24:50 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 Why are nurses not standing up when things are broken? #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:25:01 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @amyrnbsn im sure many also fear retaliation. Many heal thcare organizations arevery #anitUnion#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:25:07 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Darn, gotta jump out. #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:25:18 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 Fortunatly in the ANA we are seeing more oppurtunities for nurses to get involved inhealth politics #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:25:33 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 fear? attempting to work with what they have? being job scared? beingtoo busy? #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:25:45 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 well, @TheNerdyNurse, its human for us to fear rejection/retalition #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:25:46 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @SarahBethRN@Thenerdynurse And we know what the work around leads to:errors. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:25:57 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @NurseSallie you're absolutely right! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:26:30 PDT 2011

JonasFajardo I honestly think it's because nurses are adaptable & can always find a workaround. Icall it the MacGyver gene. #RNChat Hello from Toronto.

Thu Oct 13 18:26:40 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 agreed @AmandaRedman! #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:27:05 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @amyrnbsn It's tough; here's some resources my prof. organization puts out forpolitical action, thoughts? http://t.co/9UWL6xMn#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:27:29 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @JonasFajardo I agree. The nursing culture is one of survival and making things workwith whatever you have. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:27:30 PDT 2011

it is a system that is just plain broken. RT @TheNerdyNurse: @NurseSallie youre


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SarahBethRN absolutely right! re:errors #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:27:51 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 As nurses we are advocates for our patients id like to see more nurses workingtowards outcomes than working with what we've got #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:28:41 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 @GerryWiederRN, you are so right! We have to be experts because i f we don't, things

may never get done! #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:28:45 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @SarahBethRN we're letting it get worse. If we don't speak up for us, how can wespeak up for our patients? #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:29:02 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn @TheNerdyNurse Yes, can feel like a whistleblower or in opposition. MT@TheNerdyNurse healthcare organizations are very #anitUnion#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:29:52 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 how do we speak up for our patients? @TheNerdyNurse, by advocating. When theyhurt, help them relieve it, etc. #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:29:58 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse one of my favorite parts of nursing is the creativity it requires. But it can be a detriment.#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:30:00 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 we have to do what we can to make our patients stay better and more comfortable#RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:30:21 PDT 2011

NateOsit @NurseChris87@amyrnbsn Wow, many of those position statements look pretty BA.We need more like that! #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:30:23 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 thank you amanda :) #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:31:02 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN @rhiebs518 Product of working in flawed or broken systems. The patient comes first.Necessity is the mother of invention. #Rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:31:13 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NateOsit Haha yeah, they don't mess around. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:31:13 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 @AmandaRedman, nice to see a classmate here! #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:31:23 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 but who is doing that for us? we're not. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:31:28 PDT 2011


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SarahBethRN Nurses, et al. I have to bow out. Will read the transcript later. Happy chatting. #RNChatThu Oct 13 18:31:45 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 Anyone have thoughts on the #OWS stuff and the potential impact for socialdeterminants of health? #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:31:49 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 @TheNerdyNurse, who is doing what? advocating? We are! If we're not, we need tobe! #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:32:02 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 yes @AmandaRedman, on my floor as well #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:32:16 PDT 2011

NateOsit In Boston, nurses unions had a huge demonstration w/#occupyboston. Are other RNorgs joining? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:32:19 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 if we don't speak up, it doesn't happen. #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:32:25 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NurseChris87 Less poverty less income disparity likely better heal th status. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:33:13 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn I suggest all #nurses explore thr socio-political way of knowing. Just check somethingout, an ANA lobby day, a grassroots org, etc #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:33:16 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NateOsit Don't think so here, but we just had a provincial election and everybodymight be all lobbied-out #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:33:21 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 I think we do advocate for our patients. But I don't think we do forourselves. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:33:24 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 @amandaredman, i'm not either. so often i have to fight with pharmacy or thephysician to continue advocating #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:33:25 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN Rising tide theory! RT @NurseSallie: @NurseChris87 Less poverty less incomedisparity likely better health status. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:33:47 PDT 2011

RNmihollo #rnchat what's the topicThu Oct 13 18:34:04 PDT 2011

RNchat (For l8r reading) - Article where Henry Blodget asserts that Healthcare eroded middle


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class http://t.co/RWwkfVOR#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:34:11 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse there is a BIG difference in being and advocate for nurses and just being acomplainer. I've met many complainers, few advocates #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:34:26 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NateOsit National Nurses Union had a #taxwallstreet#healamerica rally downtowna few days before #ows started #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:34:55 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN @TheNerdyNurse Nurse, advocate for thyself. #RnchatThu Oct 13 18:34:59 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 it makes me sick that those with more poverty don't get as good of health care. though isee it so often in my field. #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:34:59 PDT 2011

Healthecareers Why Perinatal Safety #Nurses Are in Demand. http://t.co/wTF0ePOY#nursing#rnchatThu Oct 13 18:35:07 PDT 2011

RNchat @RNmihollo Here's the topic http://t.co/TD5psHWo#rnchat (You can always scrollback to @RNchat's feed for topics.)

Thu Oct 13 18:35:14 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 We dont advocate foe ourselves enough but advocating for ourselves can providebetter outcomes for our patients #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:35:20 PDT 2011

NateOsit @NurseSallie Yes, I saw some of their signs down at #occupyboston. Seems like theirinterests are aligned! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:35:51 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 yes, @NurseMisty19, but we aren't the focus. or we shouldnt be. our jobs revolvearound our patients. #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:36:07 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse happy nurses make for happy patients #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:36:29 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:36:54 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 yes of course, but everyone knows your system is only as good as yourweakest link #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:36:57 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 So how does professional advocacy work in terms of community/social movements? Idon't follow, but I'm kind of slow :) #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:37:33 PDT 2011


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rhiebs518 determine my joy. they weren't the initial ones to give i t to me, and they can't take itaway, though they may try. #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:38:12 PDT 2011

RNmihollo #rnchat I haven't been following that very well. Seems like a disorganized bunch ofindividuals....

Thu Oct 13 18:38:14 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 Yes but it goes hand in hand if we advocate for safer nurse patient ratios it will improvesafety a healthy happy nurse can have #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:39:04 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 Positive impacts on patients#rnchatThu Oct 13 18:39:22 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NurseChris87 I guess it depends on what you are professional advocating for. Basichealth care for everyone includes nurses, too. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:40:00 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Cool. NNU during a march I know. RT @NateOsit: In Boston, nurses unions had ahuge demo w/#occupyboston. Are other RN orgs joining? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:40:21 PDT 2011

JonasFajardo @NurseMisty19 I agree w advocacy, but also in bigger systemic changes. if weprovide care to pts in their homes/community, less... #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:40:45 PDT 2011

RNchat @RNmihollo The topic's not so much about that specific event, but nursing's need toadvance change, build its community. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:40:54 PDT 2011

JonasFajardo strain in the acute care system. the solution needs to be multi-pronged. but we canadvocate for that too. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:42:20 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse Does everyone feel that healthcare is a right? An entitlement that everyone should begiven? #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:42:20 PDT 2011

rhiebs518change is always happening in healthcare. i know they think it works better, but why fixwhat works great?! #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:42:32 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 which part of healthcare works great? #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:43:09 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @JonasFajardo Advocate for systems change not just individual patients. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:43:16 PDT 2011

Mentioned earlier that all nursing is a political act, got that from CNA (Similar to ANA),


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NurseChris87 quick PDF from them #RnChathttp://t.co/bbiyOrY5Thu Oct 13 18:43:47 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN @TheNerdyNurse Beat me to the punch! Lol #RnchatThu Oct 13 18:44:09 PDT 2011

RNchat T1a - Would getting behind the idea that "happy nurses make happy patients" be auseful way to build community? #RNchat h/t @nerdynurse

Thu Oct 13 18:44:37 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 Me too! "@GerryWiederRN: @TheNerdyNurse Beat me to the punch! Lol #Rnchat"Thu Oct 13 18:44:46 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 well, @TheNerdyNurse, i was referring to CIS #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:44:50 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @rhiebs518 The number of patient deaths due to errors tells us things aren't great,same for US showing in infant mortality ranking. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:44:50 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @GerryWiederRN hah. :) #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:44:55 PDT 2011

NateOsit @TheNerdyNurse Obviously in the U.S. not everyone thinks it's a right. I think it's arational goal for a compassionate society #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:44:55 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN @TheNerdyNurse Uh, billing? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:45:14 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN Healthcare is about putting bandages on bandages. Very little changes at the "rootcause" level. #Rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:45:52 PDT 2011

JonasFajardo @rhiebs518 i think we still have a long way to go to really have a working health caresystem. no? #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:46:15 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @NurseChris87 All nursing is a pol itical act is perhaps true on some level, but not allnursing are involved politically. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:46:21 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @Wanderer_RN billing in healthcare great... no. far from. I'm dealing with 5010medicare testing #nightmare#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:46:22 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @GerryWiederRN I'm excellent at wound care! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:46:49 PDT 2011


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rhiebs518 @NurseSallie i never said nething bout infant mortality. nor did i say evrthing wa greatbut y change CIS when not needed #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:47:03 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 thats why nurses need to become stronger at advocating that @GerryWiederRN#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:47:04 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN @NateOsit Too bad a large chunk of society is too self centered to believe incompassion. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:47:07 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN @TheNerdyNurse Yeah, I know nothing of billing. I got nothing. #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:47:41 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 it is needed @rhiebs518@NurseSallie#RNchatThu Oct 13 18:47:47 PDT 2011

JonasFajardo @GerryWiederRN agreed. but it's reached a threshold where we actually have to lookat scary root causes. can't afford not to. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:47:48 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NateOsit Talks here aren't over right to access, but finger-pointing on which chunk ofgv't should pay. #OWS could up transparency? #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:48:00 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @RNchat possibly. If you're source of healthcare has it's basis in promoting happinessand quality of life, it could #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:48:20 PDT 2011

rderensis So true. RT @GerryWiederRN Healthcare is about putting bandages on bandages.Very little changes at the "root cause" level . #Rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:48:33 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @Wanderer_RN whether healthcare is a right is not always about compassion. It'sabout takers who are never givers. #slugs#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:49:12 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @rhiebs518 I was taking a broader view of whether health care works or not, but is isgood your particular software works well ... #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:50:07 PDT 2011

RNchat @TheNerdyNurse The idea being: there's an assumption that it's ok to put it on thenurses, that caring 4 them is caring 4 patients #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:50:14 PDT 2011

NateOsit @NurseChris87 It could also give a more holistic view of health, including SDOH,food, water, education, and housing #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:50:18 PDT 2011


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TheNerdyNurse perhaps Ive been listening to far too much poli tical radio, but as American's we are fartoo entitled #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:50:19 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 we can stand up for change all we want, but we are just going 2have 2deal with thefact that we are not the ones in charge. #RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:50:21 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 that's when you become the ones who are in charge! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:51:05 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn @RNchat@Nerdynurse I think it can. Start w broad theme "angry abt unsafe pt ratios".Share stories, dialogue. Bring pts in to fold. #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:51:22 PDT 2011

NurseSallie To paraphrase Donna Shalala: "three million strong, nurses, and it is time you startacting like it!" #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:51:41 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @rhiebs518 and I am speaking as a nurse who got tired of not having a say, and nowhaving a voice that matters! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:51:41 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN @rhiebs518 True...unfortunately. Still able to influence... #RnchatThu Oct 13 18:51:41 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 As somebody that's always had universal health care, the talks of blaming systemparasites are always tough to hear #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:51:50 PDT 2011

RNmihollo #rnchat after reading some of "obamacare" I really hope they scrap sections of it... noone should be forced into #commerce

Thu Oct 13 18:51:51 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 yes, @GerryWiederRN, i agree, however, sometimes we are going to get overlooked.#RNchat#nur3563

Thu Oct 13 18:52:01 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @rhiebs518 Thats no reason to give up! eventually someone wil l listen, that is how allchanges in healthcare occur someone stands up #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:52:03 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Eh. Impossible to do chats via mobile. Sorry, everyone if I'm ten paces behind. :)#RNChat

Thu Oct 13 18:52:45 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @VWMama Yes, basic health care is a right. Now to define what basic is. #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:53:03 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN @VWMama As in "right to life"? #Rnchat


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Thu Oct 13 18:53:19 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NateOsit Heck yes. SDOH is the key, explains why still we have discrepancies evenwith 100% free clinics #RnChat.

Thu Oct 13 18:53:38 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 The more voices we have the more willing people will be to listen #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:53:56 PDT 2011

RNmihollo #unsafe patient ratio's I like that topic ;) #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:54:10 PDT 2011

RNchat @amyrnbsn Good point about igniting dialogue. #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:54:15 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse one day there will be a #ChargeNurseGeneral I'm running for it. Vote me in! lol #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:54:29 PDT 2011

RNchat @amyrnbsn Ha! Actually, being ten paces behind makes the chats kinda fun. Warmconfusion ;) #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:54:49 PDT 2011

nursingpins Sorry missed #RNchat , just got home - will monitor remaining and read the transcript.#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:55:07 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @NateOsit Health political reform has got to start outside of HCP's, it's gotta be aboutfair allocation of resources #RnChat

Thu Oct 13 18:55:20 PDT 2011

rhiebs518 dose this chat end at 9? #RNchat#nur3563Thu Oct 13 18:55:23 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @NurseMisty19 I think I could do some seriously good nursing politicin'#TheNerdyNurseForPresident ? #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:55:47 PDT 2011

RNchat @nursingpins No worries at all! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:55:49 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @TheNerdyNurse I think there is something in the works similar to surgeon general.#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:56:13 PDT 2011

RNchat @TheNerdyNurse I thin you could too! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:56:18 PDT 2011

Wanderer_RN Well, it's been fun. See you a ll later! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:56:23 PDT 2011


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JonasFajardo @NurseMisty19 also the clearer the message, and the more organized the voices...#RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:56:51 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @NurseSallie I know! I've read about it. One day, I really may try for that. I've got a bigenough mouth to advocate for us all! #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:56:57 PDT 2011

RNchat Since we got off to a slow start, I'll extend #RNchat to about 10:15pm If you need tosplit, that's cool. Or feel free to rock on here.

Thu Oct 13 18:57:01 PDT 2011

GerryWiederRN Nite all! Good seeing everyone. #RnchatThu Oct 13 18:57:05 PDT 2011

NateOsit @NurseChris87 Agree. I think it's also important to address how systemicinequality/oppression impacts community health #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:57:20 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @GerryWiederRN goodnight! #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:57:50 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Stories! We need to hear not-always-so-great-things-happening stories sometimes.@RNchat@amyrnbsn Good point abt igniting dialogue. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 18:57:56 PDT 2011

RNchat @rhiebs518 Yes (10pm Eastern) - but I'm extending it to 10:15 (we had a slow start).#RNchat#nur3563 You can leave or stay as you wish.

Thu Oct 13 18:58:30 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @TheNerdyNurse The nurse uprising wouldn't need politicking, would just wind upputting ativan in the drinking water haha #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:59:03 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @amyrnbsn "funny when you're dead how people start listening" are very true words.#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 18:59:05 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @JonasFajardo good point! #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:59:21 PDT 2011

RNchat Hey everyone - I've noticed that #RNchat's fire starts a bit later than 9pm (est). What doyou think about starting at 9:15pm est?

Thu Oct 13 18:59:53 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @TheNerdyNurse only if i can be VP :) #RNchatThu Oct 13 18:59:54 PDT 2011


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RNmihollo @NurseChris87 lol ativan #rnchatThu Oct 13 18:59:56 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 @TheNerdyNurse For sure. Advocating for health means funding programs forprevention, across the lifespan, for everyone. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 19:00:31 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @NurseMisty19 I'm game! #TheNerdyNurseForPresent#NurseMisty19asVP#rnchatThu Oct 13 19:00:47 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @NurseChris87#ativan? I think we may need some #haldol#rnchatThu Oct 13 19:01:33 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Yes, I think as #nurses we preach care & compassion but that doesn't mean you can'tbe angry or without a voice. @TheNerdyNurse#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 19:01:51 PDT 2011

joniwatson #RNChat looked good. Sorry I missed it.Thu Oct 13 19:01:55 PDT 2011

RNchat @joniwatson I extended it another 15 mins, so feel free to jump in. Scroll by my streamfor topic #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 19:02:29 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @amyrnbsn preach i t sister! #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:02:30 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @joniwatson Still going on! Join in #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:02:35 PDT 2011

NurseChris87 Thinking i'm going to head out, was good to get back into #RNChat. Thanks again andgood night all!

Thu Oct 13 19:02:56 PDT 2011

nursingpins Nurses must realize there will be NO safe staffing wi thout a union or mandate - will nothappen till then. #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 19:03:50 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 @NurseChris87 Goodnight! Thanks for Joining in #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:04:02 PDT 2011

RNchat @nursechris87 Ok, glad you made it tonight. It certainly got lively after the crickets atthe beginning ;) #RNchat Cheers!

Thu Oct 13 19:04:04 PDT 2011

joniwatson Jumping in waaay late. Glad you extended the #RNChat! Joni - Inc nurse from Texasworking with mostly uninsured.

Thu Oct 13 19:04:37 PDT 2011


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TheNerdyNurse @nursingpins unfortunately, I think you are right on this one. And I hate overuse ofregulations. #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 19:04:51 PDT 2011

RNmihollo @NurseChris87#rnchat I agree that more things need to be done for preventionprograms. We r fat,smoke,illegal drugs, type 2diabetes

Thu Oct 13 19:04:54 PDT 2011

caitrobertson89 glad you extended the chat!! #RNchat#NUR3563Thu Oct 13 19:04:59 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn I will! Harnessing our power to knowingly participate in change lifts everyone just likecaring & compassion! @TheNerdyNurse#rnchat

Thu Oct 13 19:05:36 PDT 2011

HealthJusticeCT Oh my, I missed a advocacy / systems discussion? HT #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:05:39 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse @RNmihollo we continue to do these things even though we know all the detriments.We are killing ourselves. #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:05:39 PDT 2011

nursingpins @joniwatson The mostly uninsured is about all that is left :) #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:05:58 PDT 2011

joniwatson I meant onc nurse. Thanks, autocorrect. #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:06:16 PDT 2011

RNmihollo @TheNerdyNurse sigh... I know #fatnurse ;) #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:06:38 PDT 2011

RNchat @HealthJusticeCT Sort of. We were referencing occupywallstreet for change innursing. #RNchat We talking advocacy too.

Thu Oct 13 19:06:50 PDT 2011

nursingpins @TheNerdyNurse I could too - #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:07:05 PDT 2011

TheNerdyNurse With the new #iOS5 update, my #iPhone homescreen is covered in nurse tweets#rnchatThu Oct 13 19:07:24 PDT 2011

RNmihollo @NurseSallie true that, ugh the crap in our food! Wake up grandma &teach me how togarden/can #rnchat

Thu Oct 13 19:08:16 PDT 2011

NurseSallie @RNmihollo Except the soil is messed up, too. #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:08:55 PDT 2011


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TheNerdyNurse @RNmihollo is there an App for that? #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:09:00 PDT 2011

NurseMisty19 its difficult to find affordable unprocessed food nowadays #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:09:01 PDT 2011

RNmihollo @NurseSallie lol #wearealldoomed ;) #rnchatThu Oct 13 19:09:57 PDT 2011

nursingpins Bedside nurses are on their own - even (The Future of Nursing) abandoned them. :)http://t.co/WoDmPXGb #RNchat

Thu Oct 13 19:10:05 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn Helped a #HCR grassroots movement talk to people at NIN concert. It was a cool thingto be involved in as a #nurse. Be creative :) #RNChat

Thu Oct 13 19:10:49 PDT 2011

joniwatson Or have we forgotten nonorganic bananas are okay, too? RT @NurseMisty19: its

difficult to find affordable unprocessed food nowadays #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:12:01 PDT 2011

amyrnbsn @joniwatson Please share your musings. #RNChatThu Oct 13 19:13:04 PDT 2011

nursingpins As always - do not forget to re-clamp foleys when you empty them :) #RNchatThu Oct 13 19:13:56 PDT 2011

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