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T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :) 2/19/2010 20:45 rnchat: RT @rnchat: T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :) 2/19/2010 20:45 clinicalcafe: Can't wait for #rnchat 2/19/2010 20:54 NurseSylvia11: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment. 2/19/2010 21:00 rnchat: Woo hoo...I literally JUST got in from the hospital!! I didnt think I'd make it in time! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:01 EllenRichter: Well - let's get started with introductions. Tell us about yourself! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 rnchat: I'm so excited, using a new twitter acct since my old one doesn't work via tweetchat... #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:02 NurseSylvia11: @rnchat hi there!! didnt know there was a chat tonight! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 ali_rn: RT @RNchat: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment. 2/19/2010 21:02 Kineticycle: @rnchat Yes, last nite was really enjoyable! I hope that @RWJF got some good data from that chat! :) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:02 EllenRichter: 2/3 year nursing student in a BSN program in Cal, also work in an ICU as a tech.. #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:02 NurseSylvia11: @rnchat nurse for (almost) 6yrs medical floor, hi all! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:03 ali_rn: I'm Ellen, a long long long-time critical care RN & legal nurse consultant in South Florida Hi people! This is like deja vu! #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:04 EllenRichter: nearly done with my BSN degree in portland. #rnchat 2/19/2010 21:05 ianmal: First topic coming up in one minute... #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:05 rnchat: .5/2 year nursing student in a RN program in New Jersey. :-) #RNchat 2/19/2010 21:05 KaitlynAliano: #rnchat I'm a nurse manager for a critical care transport program at an academic medical center. >20yrs experience. Kineticycle:
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T1 Grievances: What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go public? How should they proceed?

T2 Pharmaceutical Industry: Is the industry sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should they be involved? What can they do for us?

T3 Women's Health: What Dx and Tx disparities do you still see between men and women?

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Page 1: RNchat Transcript February 19, 2010

T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :)2/19/2010 20:45

rnchat:

RT @rnchat: T-minus 15 minutes until #RNchat. Plz RT! :)2/19/2010 20:45

clinicalcafe:

Can't wait for #rnchat2/19/2010 20:54

NurseSylvia11:

Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript - http://rnchat.org -We'll get started in a moment.2/19/2010 21:00

rnchat:

Woo hoo...I literally JUST got in from the hospital!! I didnt think I'd make it in time! :)#RNchat2/19/2010 21:01

EllenRichter:

Well - let's get started with introductions. Tell us about yourself! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:02

rnchat:

I'm so excited, using a new twitter acct since my old one doesn't work via tweetchat...#rnchat2/19/2010 21:02

NurseSylvia11:

@rnchat hi there!! didnt know there was a chat tonight! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:02

ali_rn:

RT @RNchat: Welcome to #RNchat! Last night's was amazing - here's the transcript -http://rnchat.org - We'll get started in a moment.2/19/2010 21:02

Kineticycle:

@rnchat Yes, last nite was really enjoyable! I hope that @RWJF got some good datafrom that chat! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:02

EllenRichter:

2/3 year nursing student in a BSN program in Cal, also work in an ICU as a tech..#rnchat2/19/2010 21:02

NurseSylvia11:

@rnchat nurse for (almost) 6yrs medical floor, hi all! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:03

ali_rn:

I'm Ellen, a long long long-time critical care RN & legal nurse consultant in South FloridaHi people! This is like deja vu! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:04

EllenRichter:

nearly done with my BSN degree in portland. #rnchat2/19/2010 21:05

ianmal:

First topic coming up in one minute... #RNchat2/19/2010 21:05

rnchat:

.5/2 year nursing student in a RN program in New Jersey. :-) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:05

KaitlynAliano:

#rnchat I'm a nurse manager for a critical care transport program at an academic medicalcenter. >20yrs experience.

Kineticycle:

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2/19/2010 21:06

@ali_rn Welcome! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:06

rnchat:

Great to see students come to the chat! Welcome everyone! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:06

EllenRichter:

@heychrissmith, awesome. I'm watching Medium and following #RNchat. What movie?2/19/2010 21:06

KaitlynAliano:

@EllenRichter thanks! #rnchat2/19/2010 21:06

NurseSylvia11:

T1 Grievances: What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses go public?How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:06

rnchat:

@KaitlynAliano Cloudy with a chance of meatballs #RNchat2/19/2010 21:07

heychrissmith:

T1 Phil, define grievances? You mean work-related issues? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:08

EllenRichter:

LMAO @Kineticycle 200th?? Do I get a prize (hopefully yes!) :) My pleasure following afellow nurse! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:08

EllenRichter:

RT @rnchat: T1 - What are best practices for grievances? When should nurses gopublic? How should they proceed? Any examples? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:09

KaitlynAliano:

#rnchat T1 grievence? Is this union related or just a "concern" in general? Not sure Iunderstand the scope of the Q?2/19/2010 21:10

Kineticycle:

T1 To get any real headway with a grievance, you must follow the correct chain ofcommand. "Going public?" Not sure what that means #RNchat2/19/2010 21:10

EllenRichter:

#RNChat Aw, hi gang! Can't really participate as I'm working tonite (& it's crazy) but willbe following along when I can. Cheers!2/19/2010 21:11

holisticnurses:

@Kineticycle gives the nurse protection/recourse #rnchat2/19/2010 21:12

ali_rn:

T1 is honesty the best policy? Leave it to the hospital to decide. Clearing your consciencedoesn't always benefit the masses #rnchat2/19/2010 21:12

NurseSylvia11:

T1 Many companies have a grievance committee that includes RNs & administrators whotry to resolve a grievance behind closed doors #RNchat2/19/2010 21:12

EllenRichter:

T1 @ali_rn Remember, not every hospital/facility has a union! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:13

EllenRichter:

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@EllenRichter Do nurses in FL have unconditional protection when "speaking out" afterfollowing chain of command? In TX it seems no #RNchat2/19/2010 21:14

yvette2012:

@holisticnurses Hi! Sorry you cant partake! Dont work too hard! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:14

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter very true...but i have only worked in one that does!! skews my view iguess! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:15

ali_rn:

T1 @yvette2012 No one has unconditional protection anywhere! We must always play bythe rules if we want protection. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:15

EllenRichter:

T1 @kineticycle Many times the grievance has nothing to do with patient care. But its stillan issue needing resolution! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:16

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter good points about protection and grievance/pt care #RNchat2/19/2010 21:18

ali_rn:

#rnchat T1 if a grievance is to have a + impact, it must have a willing champion to "fix"the wrong. It's all in the approach to build trust2/19/2010 21:18

Kineticycle:

T1 @ali_rn I have worked in both union hospitals & non-union ones. Good/bad for eachtype. A supportive administration always helps #RNchat2/19/2010 21:18

EllenRichter:

As a complete new-comer, message I'm getting is: don't speak out, b/c even when youDO follow the rules, you can get into a mess #RNchat2/19/2010 21:19

yvette2012:

#RNchat~ Sorry, I'm late but here:)2/19/2010 21:19

PamelaKline:

@Kineticycle that isn't exactly how it work where i work- a nurse will recieve pay for otshe should have gotten, stuff like that, #rnchat2/19/2010 21:21

ali_rn:

@Kineticycle have not seen it lead to actual policy change #rnchat2/19/2010 21:21

ali_rn:

T1 @yvette2012 When a nurse feels there was injustice or wrong-doing, theres no Xcusefor silence. There R tactics for effectiveness #RNchat2/19/2010 21:21

EllenRichter:

@PamelaKline Welcome! We'll start the second topic in a few moments. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:21

rnchat:

@PamelaKline welcome gf!! :) Not too late! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:21

EllenRichter:

#rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine about everything". Be focused, IDthe cause and suggest solutions = best chance.2/19/2010 21:22

Kineticycle:

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Lot of great views here on grievances. Second topic coming up! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:22

rnchat:

T1 I'm sure every nurse has stories of incidents where they couldve/shouldve made agrievance, but didnt--to prevent more H/As #RNchat2/19/2010 21:23

EllenRichter:

RT @Kineticycle #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, just can't "whine about everything". Befocused, ID cause & suggest solutions = best chance2/19/2010 21:23

holisticnurses:

RT @Kineticycle: #rnchat T1 RNs must speak out, they just can't "whine abouteverything". Be focused, ID the cause and suggest solutions = best chance.2/19/2010 21:23

rnchat:

T2 Pharmaceutical Industry: Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How shouldthey be involved? What can they do for us? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:24

rnchat:

I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying a hefty price forspeaking her mind about what was right. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:24

yvette2012:

T1 Yessss...@kineticycle GREAT point about having some ideas for a solution! Thats aplus & can really help resolve things. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:24

EllenRichter:

RT @rnchat: T2 - Is Pharma sufficiently supportive of nursing? How should they beinvolved? What can they do for us? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:24

KaitlynAliano:

@yvette2012 Texas nurse issue compounded by a very small hospital, small town, theMD & the sheriff had a relationship. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:26

EllenRichter:

And many nurses have come together bc of that! RT @yvette2012 I'm just *perplexed".What did the TX nurse do wrong? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:26

holisticnurses:

@yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever. Just bizarre. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:27

philbaumann:

@yvette2012 I agree with you Yvette. She did nothing wrong. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:27

PamelaKline:

#rnchat T2 if Pharma were supportive of nursing they would: use larger print, name medsless alike, make doses easier 2 deliver (no cutting)2/19/2010 21:28

Kineticycle:

T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is the complexity of all thedifferent names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:28

EllenRichter:

Agreed! RT @philbaumann @yvette2012 We all are. It was the most bizarre case ever.Just bizarre. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:29

holisticnurses:

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@holisticnurses, yes. One of the best things to come out of the case; a strengthenedsense of community & fellowship among nurses. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:29

KaitlynAliano:

T2 Each drug should just have a generic name!! Not 15 different trade names for eachcompany! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:29

EllenRichter:

RT @yvette2012: I'm just *perplexed". What did the TX nurse do wrong? She's paying ahefty price...about what was right. #RNchat ^POLITICS!2/19/2010 21:29

Kineticycle:

RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is thecomplexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:30

rnchat:

T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nurse calls it another, MDwrites it under a 3rd name! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:30

EllenRichter:

A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to med naming? Anysuggestions or is it just hopeless? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:31

rnchat:

RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a med one name, nursecalls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:31

Kineticycle:

T2 Another thing I am puzzled about is the size of some pills...ie coreg, thyroidsuppl...they are like saccharine! Old shaky hands? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:31

EllenRichter:

RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of allthe different names for each drug! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:32

holisticnurses:

RT @rnchat: A great point by @EllenRichter - what can Pharma do with respect to mednaming? #RNchat ^its all abt marketing/branding. #fail2/19/2010 21:33

Kineticycle:

RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharm industry is the complexity of allthe different names for each drug! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:33

PamelaKline:

T3 LOL, and my last big beef with pharma...make more of the common medications inelixer form. Thousands need their pills crushed! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:34

EllenRichter:

But then, I don't want their job either #RNchat2/19/2010 21:34

yvette2012:

Hi, I'm Mary Anna, a nursing instructor/simulation specialist in Portland, OR. Glad to bejoining #RNchat for the first time.2/19/2010 21:34

maryannagordon:

t2 #rnchat my primary concern is how much drug waste their is..why provide 4 ofmorphine so i can waste 2?2/19/2010 21:35

ali_rn:

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@maryannagordon welcome!!! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:35

PamelaKline:

T3 I know when I crush up 15 pills for an NG tube, much of those drugs never dissolvewell & doses are not 100% instilled #RNchat2/19/2010 21:35

EllenRichter:

I'll agree w/ general confusion with the complexity of the naming system, my studentshave much difficulty learning all permutations #RNCHAT2/19/2010 21:36

maryannagordon:

people cannot afford meds, and i'm throwing away perfectly good ones, every hour!#rnchat2/19/2010 21:36

ali_rn:

#rnchat T2 simplify med dosing, standardize concentrations, improve labeling so it can beread, sponsor RN education, not just doc vacations2/19/2010 21:36

Kineticycle:

T3 @ali_rn I cant agree more! I hate wasting narcotics just because the pharmacy hasonly one dose available!! Sometimes every hour~ #RNchat2/19/2010 21:37

EllenRichter:

LOL @ali_rn We both said "every hour"! We know how to waste, dont we? ;) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:37

EllenRichter:

RT @EllenRichter: T2 One big beef with the whole pharmaceutical industry is thecomplexity of all the different names for each drug! Makes it so hard! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:38

CureT1Diabetes:

@EllenRichter i know- how much med sticks to syringe and cup and never even gets intopt! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:38

ali_rn:

RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a medone name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:39

CureT1Diabetes:

@ali_rn T3 I agree. Pts aren't getting their meds if you are crushing them. #RNCHAT2/19/2010 21:39

ELNC:

RT @Kineticycle: RT @EllenRichter: T2 The patients get so confused. They call a medone name, nurse calls it another, MD writes it under a 3rd name! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:40

DiabetesMine:

I wood say 1/4 of NG dose gets lost along way RT @ali_rn: i know~how much med sticksto syringe and cup and never even gets into pt! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:40

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter oh yes #RNchat2/19/2010 21:40

ali_rn:

Thanks for the RTs folks!! Wow! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:40

EllenRichter:

Follow up to T2 - Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what shouldrnchat:

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Pharma do in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:41

(good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:41

EllenRichter:

RT @EllenRichter: (good questions, Phil!!) :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:42

ELNC:

@rnchat ask nurses what they need to dose patients... med routes, doses needed#RNchat2/19/2010 21:42

ali_rn:

#rnchat T2 pharma should send RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;)2/19/2010 21:42

Kineticycle:

RT @rnchat: Given that it's nurses who admin Rx & run clin trials: what should Pharmado in a broader sense (support, etc.) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:43

PamelaKline:

T2 Maybe Pharma could hire more RN consultants to help in the development phases ofpharma instead of bandaid to existing problems #RNchat2/19/2010 21:43

EllenRichter:

@Kineticycle I agree with you, I'm packing my bags:) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:44

PamelaKline:

@mandirocker Great point! I think drug names are VERY important to the understandingof their actions by patients AND hc professnls #RNchat2/19/2010 21:44

EllenRichter:

T2 I have a broad question: are pharm companies genuinely interested in promotingsafety? Is their any incentive for them? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:44

yvette2012:

LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma should send RNs toHawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:45

EllenRichter:

@yvette2012 Rationally it's in their interest. But Rationality and Wall Street don't alwaysmeet each other on the road. :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:46

philbaumann:

@EllenRichter I think that's a great idea Ellen:) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:46

PamelaKline:

RT @EllenRichter: LMAO!!! I just saw that!! haha >> RT @Kineticycle: T2 pharma shouldsend RNs to Hawaii for a 2 week ACLS recert ;) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:47

Cathy_Robinson:

#rnchat this is great fun and good discussion! Thanks for the opportunity.2/19/2010 21:48

Kineticycle:

T2 When nuts come to bolts, both health care and pharma are big business--its not allabout altruistic patient care, altho importnt #RNchat2/19/2010 21:48

EllenRichter:

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Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharma companies tosend us to Maui now :)2/19/2010 21:48

rnchat:

@yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls on the nurse.#RNCHAT2/19/2010 21:48

ELNC:

Hey, @kineticycle I'm glad you came too! You have added alot to the chat! Keep comingback! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:49

EllenRichter:

RT @ELNC: @yvette2012 T2 I don't think safety is their primary concern. Safety falls onthe nurse. #RNCHAT agreed, its money!2/19/2010 21:49

ali_rn:

@Kineticycle Our pleasure! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:50

rnchat:

#rnchat T2 instead of pharma supporting nursing, how can nursing influence pharma?What's our sphere of influence on them? Do we use it?2/19/2010 21:50

Kineticycle:

T3 Women's Health: What Dx and Tx disparities do you still see between men andwomen? What's improved over the decades? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:50

rnchat:

#rnchat also still at work!2/19/2010 21:51

grimalkinrn:

@Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topic in itself in a future #RNchat2/19/2010 21:51

rnchat:

@ali_rn T2 It's always about the $$$$ #RNCHAT2/19/2010 21:51

ELNC:

YESSSS!! >>> RT @rnchat @Kineticycle That's a great question! We'll make that a topicin itself in a future #RNchat2/19/2010 21:52

EllenRichter:

@Kineticycle I think we can try to be as proactive as possible (give our input, ideas &suggestions) any chance we get:) #RNchat2/19/2010 21:52

PamelaKline:

@ali_rn Oh yeah, I so agree with you. #RNchat2/19/2010 21:53

PamelaKline:

RT @rnchat: Third topic coming up in a moment. #RNchat (Gonna have to get Pharmacompanies to send us to Maui now :)2/19/2010 21:54

Facethesunmovie:

RT @ali_rn: @RNchat T3 women do not get taken seriously, patted on head said to beanxious #RNchat2/19/2010 21:55

PamelaKline:

T3 I'm not so sure I agree with @ali_rn on the view of a woman's complaints beingsquelched by a pat on the head! #RNchat2/19/2010 21:55

EllenRichter:

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#rnchat T3 I still see the skepticism in females and acute MI's. Why do we do that?Myocytes are dying and we stand looking on in denial.2/19/2010 21:56

Kineticycle:

Follow up to T1 - are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women'shealth w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:56

rnchat:

T3 In peds endocrine, males often get eval for growth failure younger than females.#RNChat2/19/2010 21:58

CarolBCollett:

Uh...Womens Health Issues is an elective...That's about all I can say...but that'ssomething, right? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:58

yvette2012:

RT @rnchat: ~Are schools & facilities doing enough to promote awareness of women'shealth w/respect to Sx assessment, etc.? #RNchat2/19/2010 21:59

PamelaKline:

That last tweet was for T3 btw #RNchat o_O2/19/2010 21:59

rnchat:

T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in school these days??#RNchat2/19/2010 21:59

EllenRichter:

@yvette2012~ Wow, that's incredible?! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:00

PamelaKline:

#rnchat T3 I'm not sure anyone is to blame for this syndrome of female sx minimizing, itsmore of a culture issue. Being aware is a + start.2/19/2010 22:01

Kineticycle:

T3 EllenRichter It's an elective starting in semester 2. Yip. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:01

yvette2012:

@yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:01

rnchat:

RT @EllenRichter: T3 @yvette2012 Womens Health classes are only electives in schoolthese days?? #RNchat ^really?2/19/2010 22:02

Kineticycle:

@EllenRichter i don't mean every woman every time, but meds formulated, tested on menas the norm #RNchat2/19/2010 22:02

ali_rn:

@EllenRichter what does that tell you #RNchat2/19/2010 22:02

ali_rn:

T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators & educators whoprepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:02

EllenRichter:

RT @EllenRichter: Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators &KaitlynAliano:

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educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:03

RT @rnchat: @yvette2012 Wow. That's a sin. #RNchat ^i agree!!2/19/2010 22:03

Kineticycle:

RT @EllenRichter: T3 Well I hope these tweets reach the eyes of university administrators& educators who prepare nursing curriculum! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:03

CarolBCollett:

T3 I'll find out in time, but right now I feel they try so hard to get EVERYTHING into theprogram, the basics are being neglected #RNchat2/19/2010 22:04

yvette2012:

#RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were onlyconducted on white men - thats not applicable to all!2/19/2010 22:04

StephenNP:

Hi #RNchat! Would love RN feedback on Sarasota Memorial's internal and external socialmedia use @SMHCS http://wp.me/pah6H-5W2/19/2010 22:05

lisagualtieri:

T3 If Womens Health, as well as Mens Health, are not addressed by regular collegecourses as mandatory topics, thats just wrong! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:05

EllenRichter:

RT @StephenNP: ~Plus we know that most of the older clinical trials were only conductedon white men - thats not applicable to all! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:06

PamelaKline:

@yvette2012 #rnchat a little of all in education, lack of depth in basics is a #fail of oureducation. Bad idea!2/19/2010 22:06

Kineticycle:

@EllenRichter agreed! That just seems like a basic requirement. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:08

PamelaKline:

@yvette2012 But women's health is an important part of the basics. That's it's notconsidered basic says something. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:08

rnchat:

#rnchat T3 Teach the norms, teach how to assess, teach how to communicate in commonlanguage. The rest can come w/ experience & more ed.2/19/2010 22:09

Kineticycle:

RT @StephenNP: #RNchat Hi there - T3 - Plus we know that most of the older clinicaltrials were only conducted on white men - thank you!!2/19/2010 22:09

ali_rn:

T3 When I went to school, that mustve been before women were invented, because wedidnt even have Womens Health as an elective! :( #RNchat2/19/2010 22:10

EllenRichter:

@lisagualtieri Sure - but maybe not during the #RNchat - it's one hour where we like tofocus things a bit. OK?2/19/2010 22:10

rnchat:

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T3 I just check my course outline to be sure. We have Maternal/Newborn NUR in the 4thsemester. The only 1 relating directly 2 women #RNchat2/19/2010 22:10

yvette2012:

@yvette2012, same with my program, Yvette! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:11

KaitlynAliano:

T3 Very sad to hear this from current students. Here I thought nursing schools were so"cutting edge" in 2010~ Very saddened. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:12

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter~ T3- LOL!! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:13

PamelaKline:

@PamelaKline LOL here too ;) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:14

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter Same here - it's pretty mind-blowing. We're talking half of the population.Kinda sorta big, ya know?? #RNchat2/19/2010 22:14

rnchat:

T3 I know we're slightly off topic, but I don't think NUR can only be 2yr program anymore.There are so many HAVE TO KNOW issues #RNchat2/19/2010 22:14

yvette2012:

@EllenRichter, I'm assuming they cluster Women's Health in with Maternal/Newborn NUR,but the info really deserves its own course. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:15

KaitlynAliano:

OK - we're gonna wrap up in a moment. Lots of great stuff here tonight!!! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:15

rnchat:

T3 And mine is supposed to be a well supported (by local hospitals) program right here inOrlando #RNchat2/19/2010 22:15

yvette2012:

@yvette2012 I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of atLEAST a BSN for all RNs. & thats just entry level #RNchat2/19/2010 22:15

EllenRichter:

@rnchat loved it tonight Phil. Very educational and eye opening! Thanks:) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:16

PamelaKline:

I think we're gonna have to revisit women's health again soon on #RNchat Huge room forimprovement here I do believe.2/19/2010 22:16

rnchat:

@PamelaKline Sure! Keep coming back! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:16

rnchat:

@yvette2012, I'm in a 2 yr program at the mo, but plan to go on to get my BSN. I dothink it's important. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:17

KaitlynAliano:

RT @EllenRichter I agree 100% on the RN minimum education. I am a full supporter of atLEAST a BSN for all RNs. 4 just entry level #RNchat2/19/2010 22:17

holisticnurses:

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@rnchat, so glad a chat took place tonight. Thanks, Phil! You're the best. :-) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:17

KaitlynAliano:

@KaitlynAliano Yes, go back for your BSN! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:17

EllenRichter:

@PamelaKline I am so glad you came! Great to see a fellow LNC at these chats! Andnow we have ELNC too! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:18

EllenRichter:

@KaitlynAliano Sure - lots of things to talk about. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:19

rnchat:

@EllenRichter, hoping maybe to get a job at a hospital after NCLEX and try to makethem pay for the BSN. ;-) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:19

KaitlynAliano:

Yessssssss @philbaumann Great, great chat tonight! I didnt think we could upstage lastnite, but I think we did! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:19

EllenRichter:

Thanks @RNchat & you, @EllenRichter, for your patience. I'm sooo on the receiving endhere. And I'm very aware of it. Good night. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:19

yvette2012:

@KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:20

EllenRichter:

@EllenRichter I almost forgot! I've been sick the last few days:( I'll be back for more. Idon't recognize ELNC? #RNchat2/19/2010 22:20

PamelaKline:

@yvette2012 You added so much to tonights chat! Great having you participate! :)#RNchat2/19/2010 22:20

EllenRichter:

OK - Great #RNchat tonight! THANK YOU everybody! Awesome job. Transcript will be uptomorrow!2/19/2010 22:20

rnchat:

@KaitlynAliano that's the best thing to do Kaitlyn! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:21

PamelaKline:

@EllenRichter, definitely! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:23

KaitlynAliano:

RT @EllenRichter: @KaitlynAliano Absolutely! Let them pay for your BSN & your MSN! :)#RNchat ^EXACTLY! Only way to go!2/19/2010 22:23

Kineticycle:

Great chat, everyone. #RNchat2/19/2010 22:23

KaitlynAliano:

G'night everyone! Thanks for some great tweetage! Enjoy your weekends! Anyoneworking (like me) enjoy too...dont work too hard! :) #RNchat2/19/2010 22:24

EllenRichter:

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@EllenRichter I didn't know there was a chat last night, I've have to check out thetranscript! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:25

PamelaKline:

#rnchat Well done tonight! Thanks for the great chat, glad to be here with all these greatfolks! G'night!2/19/2010 22:25

Kineticycle:

@PamelaKline It was a special chat, with topics posed by Robt Wood Johnson Foundatnon Nursing in the Future. Yes, read transcript! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:26

EllenRichter:

Goodnight and thanks for the invite to #RNCHAT2/19/2010 22:26

ELNC:

@ELNC Yes, we should chat more! I saw your website yesterday but couldnt find yourname or # on it. Wasnt sure if you were real! #RNchat2/19/2010 22:29

EllenRichter:

@ELNC Glad to see you ARE real! :) And glad you came to join us at #RNchat! Comeback, we have it every week. U can suggest a topic too!2/19/2010 22:31

EllenRichter:

Not sure if I've missed it, but hi all and night night! Sleeping for work tomorrow. Happyand producive chatting! #rnchat2/19/2010 22:38

MHabershamSB: