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Public Program, Agya chakra. Caxton Hall, London (UK), 18
December 1978.
Today we are talking about the sixth chakra called as Agya
Chakra. The gya,gya word means to know, gya is to know. And A means
the whole.
Agya chakra also has another meaning. A-gya, agya means
obedience or toorder. It can mean both the things. If you order to
someone it is an agya and theone who obeys the order is an
agyakari. The one who does the agya.
This sixth chakra was created in the human beings when he
started thinking.Thinking is language expressed.
If we do not have a language we cannot think. But it does not
mean there is nothought coming into us. If we cannot express it, it
does not mean there is nothought process working in us. But at that
subtle stage when the thoughts arecoming to us they are not in
language, so they are not communicated to us, andthats why if we do
not have language we cannot understand what we arethinking.
Thats why you must have seen children cannot communicate to us
what theywant because they cannot say what they are wanting. They
feel the urge in thestomach and they want to ask for, say, water or
something, but they cant say itto us, and thats why they cannot
think what they have to say about.
But afterwards when you start thinking and putting it into
language, thatlanguage is stored in our brain as shown in the
picture on the left hand side andalso on the right hand side of
that yellow and black, then it comes back to us as,later on as,
thought waves. As if somebody is talking to us.
But before the language starts, we can call it the inspiration
or the thoughtprocess, at the very early stage, comes to us in
certain forms, and those formsare in light and shade. They are not
in language but in light and shade. Andafter coming to Sahaja Yoga
if you go deep into your thoughts youll find theyare nothing but
lights and shade that are covering our Agya chakra.
One after another a light and shade, like a circular lighthouse,
they give a kindof a pattern in our head. Now these patterns are
moulded into language by us ata very early stage and these are sort
of filled into the cups of language and then
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these cups are kept reserved in the brain and they come to us
that way. When wethink we really understand because its a language
that comes to us.
So what happens to the animals? Do they think or not? They get a
thought, aninspiration but they wont be just thinking about it.
Now, these inspirationscome to them as words when they start living
with human beings. So theseinspirations go into the thought again
as we do. For example you give somebodya name, say you call him say
Tom, or something you call a dog so now heknows that this word
means calling me. So he connects himself with that word.But when he
does not have the word, when hes just an animal, hes just there,he
doesnt think. Thats why they are very spontaneous and we are not.
Animalsare extremely spontaneous because they do not think the way
we think. Andthis has created the greatest problem for human
beings: how to get beyondthoughts.
Its a little complicated thing because perhaps I can see that
very clearly, as youcannot see the light. And then the light forms
the language, and then language,according to us, becomes our
thoughts. But these thoughts are reallyconditionings on us and they
are not inspired things. They are not coming frominside and thats
why we are not spontaneous.
For example if I am sitting here, now I cannot keep quiet as a
human being. Illbe thinking about something. Ill be thinking, What
am I going to say? ThenShould I say this or not? What if I say
this, will that be alright or not? Willthat go to their heads or
not? All sorts of thoughts will be coming into My head.Then from
one side I will be questioning myself. From the other side
theanswers will be coming, Alright you say this and if you say like
this they mayappreciate you. Go this way that way they will
understand. Like that you see. Sothe sorting out goes on in our
brain through our experiences of this lifetime ofours.
Whatever have been our experiences in this lifetime in dealing
with people ingetting experiences from others: all these are
conditioned into our brain and thewhole thing becomes a thought
process, which comes to us through thisinteraction of thought and
action, action and thought, which just starts waves which action to
take, what thought to be put in, how to solve it and we think weare
analyzing ourselves. Its a very superficial thing. Actually you do
not analyzeanything whatsoever, you do not. As I told you the other
day you do not doanything.
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So your thinking is nothing but a bubbling going on. Because
when, like a seaeven, which is, so deep down, so quiet when it
touches the shore it has aaction and reaction. In the same way when
you are seeing at something,because your attention is outside,
immediately a thought wave is created out ofthat, which goes back
and gives you all the images about it, whatever you knowabout that
particular thing and it comes back to you as thought process.
Its going on all the time, and it can be so maddening that we
cannot stop ourthoughts: it just goes on like mad. You dont know,
you cant sleep becausethoughts are coming. Sometimes they could be
horrifying, sometimes they aregratifying, sometimes romantic,
sometimes absolutely negative, sometimesvery positive. Sometimes
you feel I must do this, sometimes you feel Ishouldnt do this. But
when you [are] actually doing you do not think. Itssurprising, we
never notice that when we are doing that particular thing,supposing
I say I am going to speak, these things. Now when Ive thought
aboutit that I thought say about 10 minutes before when Im speaking
it, I am notthinking that what I was going to speak. Because that
time I think Ive built inthat process of thinking into my brain and
put it somewhere stored and then,now, when I have started this
talk, that is coming direct to me.
So human beings have developed, I should say a process, which
can be a verysickening thing, very, very sickening. And this comes
out of both of these. Is onethe left side that we call the ego,
which has gone this side, and the right side wecall the superego.
All the conditioning on the right hand side of the superego,
is,gives us, the fears, the dangers, the possibilities. Whatever we
have experiencedbefore. As they say those who have been burnt by
milk also [will] take a colddrink after blowing it a little.
Because you have been burnt you know somethingliquid has burnt you
so you think this may also burn your tongue. So you maytry to do
that. It is so spontaneous that time that you feel that, Oh it is
veryspontaneous, but it is not. It has been stored before in your
experiences andsomething there that you are afraid of and thats why
you do it.
If we, once, realize that this thought process is absolutely not
necessary for us toexist. There is no need to have any thought
about the future or about the past ifyou want to exist as human
beings. Animals do not bother. For example animalsknow that they
are going in a jungle. Now suddenly they find some other
animalcoming from there and they know that you go there. Now whats
the use ofthinking about the animal that is going to come?
Supposing it does not comethen its such a waste. But they have a
hole here and they no problem as we have
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because have a hole the whole thing goes out. It doesnt stick
for more than aminute here. But you can condition them also. By
experiences they areconditioned. By experiences that they have had
so far, about other animals andthings, they are conditioned. And
they act accordingly.
So theres a tremendous dierence between us and them is that we
think abouteverything. I mean, we think it is a very great thing to
sit down and think aboutit. And we think it is very wise to sit
down and think about it. Any problemcomes in you think, Better sit
down and think about it. But now what do we dowhen a problem
arrives? We think about it in relation to whatever we have
beendoing before and whatever our experiences have been. In the
same way theywant to think about Sahaja Yoga.
Now you cannot think about Sahaja Yoga. First of all you become
thoughtlesslyaware in Sahaja Yoga to begin with. You cannot think.
But it is a happeningabout which you cannot think. It is a living
happening, thinking is a deadmovement, it is not a living movement.
Whatever [is] dead in us comes back tous as thought. Inspiration is
living, not the thinking. Inspiration is verydierent from the
thought. For example, books are in the library, everythingthat we
have thought of or have got it or experienced this is in the
books.Whatever is new coming to us is the inspiration. Now just
find out how manynew things you are thinking, perhaps not even a
sentence. Mostly you say thatThis gentleman said so, That gentleman
said so, That gentleman said so,or I said so. If you can think
about that is coming just now into you, you donthave to think for
it, it just comes out, it is inside you, it just emerges
andexpresses itself. So that is the spontaneous living thing. That
is what we call asinspiration: is a sudden glimpse of the knowledge
that we get. But whatever wehave [been] thinking about is all the
play of the dead.
So this is a centre of Christ. He resides in the centre of Agya,
and He is, in theDevi Purana if you read, was born long, long time
before, was created muchearlier and how He developed into
Mahavishnu also you can read it for yourselfbecause its a big
chapter and I wish you all could know and read about it andfind out
how He developed into Mahavishnu. It is very interesting. Because
allthese things were written in Sanskrit language, we should not
say thatMahavishnu was not in the Bible, because Bible itself was
not written at astretch by one person. So that part is a part of
Christs creation before He cameon this Earth as Christ.
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Actually Christians do not know anything about His becoming: how
He becameChrist or what was the need to have Christ or a son to
come down [and] why notGod Himself could do the job. And this is
the reason why I would request you toread for yourself the
incarnation of Mahavishnu by which you realize whyChrist was
born.
And it is the most important incarnation because He is the
principle, He is theprinciple of creation, the tattwa, as they call
it in Sanskrit language, He is thetattwa. Ganesha, though resides
in the Mooladhara gradually evolves to beChrist at this stage. From
that red chakra up to this chakra He becomes Christ.He is the
principle.
Now what is the principle? Within us what is our principle? Is,
say, theKundalini you can say. In this (microphone) the electricity
is the principle ofthis one is. In the same way the creation, the
whole creation if you take it assuch, it is the principle and the
support of this creation. He represents theessence, the essence of
creation.
Like we can say we have a family, husband and wife and the
child. Now the childis the essence of husband and wife, hes the
essence of the family, of the house.The whole thing is sustained
for him, is created for him. Till they did not havethe child there
was no meaning to that house, no meaning to their life. Butwhen
they had a child then they had a meaning. In the same way, Christ
is theessence, is the tattwa itself.
Hes the Omkara as they call it. He is the first sound, first
sound that was created Om when the Primordial Father and Primordial
Mother separated, Theycreated this sound. And He is that sound
which is filled into All-PervadingPower and looks after and
supports. Actually it is more the support becauselooking after is
done by the Father you can say or by the Mother. But is thesupport
of all the Universe.
And because He is just the essence, the essence never dies. Say
My essence isMy Spirit, it will never die. The body dies or the
creation will die but the essencehas to be there. If the essence is
lost then nothing could be there. Thats whyHes the most important
incarnation, because He is the support.
Now this incarnation is placed in this Agya chakra of ours, here
in the centre,where the optic nerve or optic thalamus cross each
other like this. In the centre
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is a very subtle point which moves both the sides like this and
like that and itcreates two sounds hum kshum, hum kshum, hum kshum.
Hum is onthe right hand side where you have seen the superego is
there and kshum is onthe left hand side where the ego is. Now these
two sounds create two kinds ofvibrations. The hum sound creates the
vibrations, which make you think, Iam, I am hum, I am. This comes
from our existence power that we know wehave to live in this world,
were not going to die. Any human being who tries tokill himself is
abnormal. Normally every human beingwhy every animal orany living
thing tries to retain its life? That is through this power of hum,
that I am. Now the superego on the left hand side and ego on the
right hand side iskshum.
But now Ill tell you about the right hand side superego. In this
superego whenyou are conditioned by so many things, then you are
frightened and you areworried because these experiences make you
that type of a person which hasfear in the mind. And this fear is
all settled in your superego. This starts fromyour amoeba stage you
can say and is, still today, is being stored there. You areafraid
of police, you are afraid of that, you are afraid of this. Some
people are notafraid of these things but are afraid of something
else, because whatever havebeen your conditions, whatever have been
your experiences, are all put downhere.
Moreover when somebody reads the book of Dracula now hes afraid
of the wordDracula but the children who do not read they do not
know what is a Dracula is.If you say Dracula has come they say,
Alright, lets have a look at him! Butthose children [who] have read
about Dracula, they are literally frightened andthey say, Oh God,
Dracula is coming, something terrible is going to happen!
So you see whatever you have read, whatever you have gone
through whateverexperiences you have had all is in the superego. So
this superego in that, thiscentre, sends [this] message, I am, you
are, you are, hum, hum : dont beafraid, dont be afraid, you
are.
So the people who come to Me, and you have seen some people who
come to Meare victims of superego conditioning. And these are the
peopleactually at thisstage only, you can really discriminate
between the two types: one who are veryaggressive, the other who
are absolutely we should say subordinated,frightened.
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These people when they come to Me, I have seen, they go on
crying andweeping, Mother you know this has happened that has
happened, and I reallyget tired talking to them. And there are so
many of this kind that really you haveto pay attention to them as
sahaja yogis because youll have to deal with them,how to manage
them and how to work it out. Now at that time if a sahaja yogisays,
now you go on saying hum, hum, hum, hum, a sahaja yogi, if he
says[that], then the vibrations will drive out his fear. Even if
you are under any fearand you are walking around and you feel that
theres frightened, you just sayhum, hum, hum. Now with this saying
the vibrations will clear out this sidevery nicely. Apart from
that, that is the way you can get help from the Divine bysaying
hum.
Now there are many things about hum and kshum but as the time is
you know,so I do not want to go into great details about it. But I
would say the mantra forthe right hand side is hum and for the left
hand side is kshum.
The right hand side is the ego, which is real problem, you
understand that! Is areal colossal one you have to face them, I
mean, [if] I say anything small hereand there I find the whole
thing coming up onto my head like that. So what isthe solution for
a colossal ego? Colossal ego can only be conquered by
forgivingothers.
Those who have ego must learn, if they feel hurt they must say,
forgive. Thenanother person hurts them, say, forgive. And not only
forgive but ask forforgiveness. Both things should be done, more
asking for forgiveness. You haveto ask for forgiveness if you have
too much of ego. It is very important. Becauseif you have too much
of ego means what? That you have pampered it too much.That means
you have used it too much. You have dominated people and thatswhy
you have such a lot of ego. If you have such a lot of ego you must
all thetime try to humble down in your heart.
Now in the heart resides the Spirit. The ego, too much of ego in
a person, alwaystakes you away from that Spirit. Thats why it is
said, Humble down in yourheart. The reason is, in the heart resides
that part of yours which getscompletely obliterated or forgotten
once you start pumping up your ego. Butego has its limits, it ends
up into stupidity and foolishness. You take any personwho is
egoistical and whos blowing his own trumpet, you will
immediatelyknow because hell be stupid, without understanding what
hes doing, hell bedoing such stupid things that you will start
wondering, especially children,
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Whats the matter with this fellow? Seems quite funny! And then
thestupidity, you see, faces the person then he sees for himself,
Oh God! how didI become so stupid?
But stupidity comes to you because you forget the existence of
God and yourrelationship with the Whole. You think, I am on my own.
Why should I not dothis? What is wrong in this, what is wrong in
that? I should do these things. Imean in this country the way
people are fighting for things, I mean, you must,anybody, I mean,
those so-called developing countries cant understand: whatsthis
kind of a thing happening to these people? Because the other day My
son-in-law Luv was reading an article that people are demanding now
that a son-in-law should be allowed to marry the mother-in-law
(laughing) , and he justcouldnt understand how can people gather
together and ask for such an absurdthing like that. She is your
mother. How can you say that way? I mean it issomething an
impossibility for people, normal people to think like that, that
ason-in-law can marry the mother-in-law. And what is there to make
a law aboutit and to talk about it. Its a very dicult thing.
All kinds of stupid things we are doing in this country, which
really makeseverybody roar with laughter. Is because of our Mr. Ego
companionship.
It is not easy to understand how he befools us. It goes on
befooling us all thetime and then we think whats wrong? An
eighty-year-old man running after atwenty-year-old girl. And the
twenty-year-old girl befooling this eighty-year-oldman, supposed to
be a statesman this, that and his statue is erected somewherethere.
How is it possible? It is only the ego makes you do all these
nonsensicaland stupid things.
Once you are in Sahaja Yoga, you dont know how to control your
laughtersometimes, the way people are foolish, extremely foolish.
And this is what it is;it ends up in stupidity absolute stupidity.
I mean even if you want to write anovel you wont get such beautiful
characters as you could around you, whenyou listen to them. And
youre shocked, Oh God whats this going on! Andvery embarrassing
too, extremely embarrassing. And they become so foolishwith their
ego that one cannot understand how thinking man, because bythinking
you get your ego, becomes foolish.
There is no wisdom in a person whose ego is completely developed
like that. Ifsomebody has an ego like that there is no wisdom in
him. You can see that he
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does not know what is wisdom. He behaves in such an immature
way. He maybe an elderly man, great grandfather of somebody but as
soon as he opens hismouth you are shocked at him. You think from
where this joker has come? Thematurity is completely lacking.
The other day somebody told Me that, Mother how is it our
parents are sostupid and we are searching God? And the elderly
people are so foolish and weare searching God? And then I said, No,
maybe because of war the parents aredisturbed, you see. Most of the
parents were disturbed during war and theysaid, Majority of them
are like this. And the younger people are searching Godand much
wiser and we dont know how to compromise with them because theyare
not searching God. Why is it they are not searching God and we
aresearching God? And if there are some searching, they are very
few. Now I saidthis may be due to war but somebody said, Then what
about America? You see,in America the people didnt face war so
much, the stupidity that they have issometimes surprising. That is
the same thing as I said, is the development ofego in a human
being.
Now ego is the thing that makes you think about everything. For
example, nowwe have to, say go from here to Birmingham, alright. So
we think now, how willI go? Simple way is that Ill take a train or
Ill take a car and go away. If theresno reservation needed I will
just jump into the train or go by the car. If the car isavailable
Ill go by car or by train finished! What is there to think about?
ButNo! Then we must plan it out, I have programmed! Now, I have to
go! You go tothe station and find the train is not there because
there was some accident sothe train is not moving. So youre
absolutely upset because you think that Thetrain has gone now what
to do.? In that upsetting you do not even rememberthat you have a
car and you have to go by the car now. That whole thing upsetsyou
because you had plans to go by train and you had planned
everything, nowyou cannot reach there and what will happen? Now you
are sitting here andworrying about it. As a person who is
spontaneous what will he do? Alrightdepends on, I may go by train
or by car whatever I feel like at that time. Hessitting tight. So
he goes to the train, sees if the train is there. If it is,
nicelytheres a space available, he gets into it. If the train is
not available, alright, hecomes home takes his car and goes
away.
So now you have informed the people that you must meet at such
and such aplace. Thats also is there, you see. So those people are
running up, down there and they will be there at the station. Now
whats the matter? Even if theyre at
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the station you can meet them at the station. You go by train
and you can meetthem. What is there to be that much upset about it?
You see you can alwayscontact them. But the way we get upset we
have spoiled the complete programof going to Birmingham, which is a
very beautiful program that we have got. Wehave to meet new people,
we have to meet many people, we have to enjoyourselves. Thats all
finished! Because we had planned something and it did notwork out,
we are finished!
All these things make us a miserable person. And we are so
miserable and sogrudging and so boring that those who are next to
you just get fed up with it andthey say, Now shut up! If you are
not going to Birmingham, if you are not goingdont go. But dont eat
my head now! is a common experience of many. Its thisMr. Ego hes
so, he doesnt want you to be happy. He doesnt want you to
berelaxed. He all the time gives you ideas and tells you, Do this
and do that andyou must get it done and this is to be done. You had
better inform that person,be meticulous about it, and it will go to
such details that anything fails you arefinished because your
nerves are already finished and shattered. Anything,even a drop of
inconvenience comes into you or even a feather of disturbance
isthere, you are finished. And so everybody is rattling, We have
tensions. Wehave problems. Why?
What is the advantage of doing all these things? No advantage
you know that.But then why do you do it? Because you have a big
ego, it wont allow you to rest.Whatever you may try it wont. So
what is the solution of that? Morning tillevening ask for
forgiveness from God. Pull your ears from both the sides andsay, Oh
God, forgive me. Oh God, forgive me. And, oh God forgive me, so
thisballoon of ego goes down a little.
Remember Him morning, evening, every time. Remembering Christ
bringsdown your ego very much. He did everything that was possible
that you shouldnot develop your ego. Everything that was possible.
He was born as an ordinarycarpenters son, lived in the most
ordinary conditions, kept Himself behind thewhole scene. He could
have been born as a Roman Emperor. He could havebeen anybody there.
But no He was born Himself. You know that He took hisbirth in a
place where even ordinary people do not take their births. But,
therealso the light was there. Wherever He was born there was light
and joy.
And this is the thing we have to know, that we have lost the joy
because we haveforgotten God Almighty. When we forget Him, that He
is love and He is joy,
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naturally joy is also forgotten. And then we see people are not
at all happy; theyhave auence, they have money, they have
everything, but still they are nothappy. All the time they are in
such a mess that you dont know how to talk tothem. If you say this
word theyll be angry, if you say that word theyll be angry.They are
not at all normal human beings, they are sick people. Sick with
theirego.
Is a very simple thing is to ask for forgiveness, but how many
times do we dothat? Not even once a day, not even once a month, not
even once a year. Even ona Christmas day if we could say, Forgive
us Oh Lord for whatever we have doneso far. It will work out. But
that day we must champagne to forgive Him more.So we must have
gossips and we must have all the arrogant things by the time itis
the end of Christmas.
This ego, yellow side one, is the one that presses your superego
too much. Itdoes. It presses it so much sometimes that a person
forgets that others are hurtby what they talk. On the contrary they
devise methods how to say things whichare cutting, which are
hurting, which are painful to others. They say suchthings, I mean
all the time if you see, a person say from a village if he comes
andsees hell think, are they quarreling, what are they doing? I
mean the wholediscussion, even in the parliament, I was surprised
the way they talked to eachother, no bull will treat another bull
that way, you see. Even a dog normally doesnot bark at another dog.
No animal in the world all the time is barking at itsfellow man. No
animal in the whole world I can tell you this much. Only thehuman
beings if two people are there all the time they are going, ha ha
ha haall the time, that way. How is it possible? His ego and her
ego or maybe both hisego are dashing at each other. And there is a
kind of a funny type of feeling thatOh I have mastered the thing, I
have got the thing, I have got the point. I haveproved the point.
But in that I have lost everything that was so beautiful and somuch
joy giving within me.
Actually a sensible person would recede from the place where two
people arehaving an argument.
Argument is a sign of tomfoolery. I havent seen any argument
coming to anyend whatsoever. If it is then it is alright, but it
never does come. Because, if say,you ask Me questions I answer you,
alright. If you do not like the answer give itup. But if you argue
with Me still and I argue with you where will you end?
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Argument is not going to lead you to any knowledge but a very
terrible egodeveloping into you.
The whole modern concept is ego-oriented. All western countries
are ego-orientated. They want to develop your ego and pamper it.
There are so manyother ways by which they do. Why Im talking more
about it [is] because we areall supposed to be western people and
auent people you see. Supposed to bevery wise and leading or
misleading, I dont know, the developing countries. Sowe have to
understand ourselves where are we as far as our understanding
ofthings are concerned.
How ego is pampered within us is by a large-scale methods. They
work on yourego throughout to have all these so-called enterprises.
For example to a womantheyll say, Oh you must have a waist like
this and you must have a face like thisand you must have For a man,
You must this kind of a body. You should beMr. Universe or you
should be something, so the man starts working on it,immediately.
You must. There so many people I have seen running on the roadsin
this cold, I dont understand. Like mad, you know, and some of them
areMembers of Parliament! The whole night they keep awake and the
whole daythey are running about. I say what are you doing? What is
the need to do this?To keep good health you must do it. To keep
good health dont work like mad,be a sensible and a wise person.
Wisdom is to be sought to keep good health, tobe alright and not
this kind of mad ego-orientated things.
So then, the one way is to excite your ego about your physique.
Then there is egoabout, you must have a big car. You see, people
try to show o their possessions.You have a big car, then theyre
going about. I mean they really look, to Me, likejokers. Thats all
they are. I mean, car I can understand is a convenience and agood
quality car, if somebody can aord, should have it, because it is
aheadache to have a bad car. So its alright. But by having a car
you becomesomething great. You may not have food in the house but
you must have a verygood car to go about. And all these ideas come.
Then they will advertise, yousee, This will be a very good car for
you. What is it for you? It is nothing but topamper your ego. All
these advertisements are nothing but by which your ego ispampered.
All these things they are created.
Now in America, if you go, every handle has to be dierent, every
thing has tobe dierent. Why so much dierence in everything? Why do
you want to haveeverything so dierent? Is it some aesthetics, you
think in that? It is none of the
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aesthetics but is just to pamper your ego. Even the so-called
art connoisseursare nothing but ego-pamperers. Your stamp
collections, this, that all this isnothing but ego pampering. And
what a waste of time, you just think about it.
This ego thing comes into us because we are, first of all, as I
said, that, in theWest, the living was very dicult, they had to
fight the nature. And when youhave to fight the nature you have to
develop your ego to fight it. Or actually,when you are fighting the
nature, the ego develops within you. And then, oncethat momentum
has started in you, it is very dicult to bring it down. It is sucha
terrible disease that people have taken it for granted that thats a
part of theirlives.
You are not your ego. You are not. When I say that you must
surrender yourselfto God they say Mother why should we surrender?
Yourself means that egowith which you are identified. I dont say
that you surrender your wisdom. Or Ican say: surrender your ego to
your wisdom.
But it is so dicult to give it up, because we have learnt to
live with it, identifiedwith it. We just cannot think of life
without our ego, we just cannot. And it isgone to such an extent
that we dont even realise how far we have gone incruelty. Like, I
like this kind, I like that kind. You go to somebodys house andyou
say like this: is indecent to talk like that. It is vulgar to
express, I likeWho are you? Are you God? I want this. I want that.
I am very particular aboutthis. I am very Who are you? Just ask
yourself a question, Who am I? I am theSpirit. I am that eternal
being. Have I become that?
On the contrary we are hurting everybodys Spirit by our ego.
Every moment,when we talk to others, we are hurting them. Actually
people have lost faith inGod, because those who are in charge of
God are so arrogant and so egoisticalthat it has become impossible
for anybody to think of God, which is beyondyour ego. Youll be
surprised, ego is absolutely superficial like a bubble. It is
justlike a balloon, which can burst just like that! And it should
go. It should go sothat you should rise. It should disappear so
that your attention rises in yourSpirit and that you see the whole
world as a part of that Spirit that you are. Thisis the boundary,
which you have to cross and for that we have to take help
fromChrist.
Christ crucified himself. Why? Because what did He do? Did He
loot people?Today you have thousands of these thugs coming here and
looting you: nobody
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crucifies them. What did He do? He just challenged the ego of
these Romansand of these Jews, those who were angry with Him, and
thats why He wascrucified.
And we have to crucify our ego now through His cross, otherwise
we are going todo the same again to ourselves that, in our own
being, we crucify our Christ byour ego. It is a very symbolic death
of Christ. His birth in the most humbleplace, in a very humble
place. He is born in the optic thalamus, you can say: isthe place
where there brain, all activities coming and, all the, all sorts
ofproblems there, facing you, and there He lives. And you have to
just awakenHim there so that your ego is crucified once for
all.
But I dont say, You fight your ego, because it is not that
important to fight.You are fighting with your shadow. You have
shadow, which is called as ego:Which is not to be fought and to
waste your energy on him. Theres no need tofight him. Only thing
[is], if you stand in the centre of the light you dont seeany
shadow. It is so simple as that. If you stand in the centre of
light that isChrist, you dont see any shadow anywhere. But when I
say this I may sound likeother people who give sermons, Stand in
the shadow of Christ or Stand inthe light of Christ. Now what does
that mean? Where is that light, where is thatplace where you should
stand? And that place is here in the centre of your opticthalamus
where there is no thought. You have to stand in
thoughtlessawareness.
Many people who have had a problem with Agya, many people who
havecome(interruption in talk)thoughts will stop and they will be
beyondthought. And this a very, very important chakra for sahaja
yogis because whenthe Kundalini rises above, above the Agya chakra
immediately there is nothought. You do not get any thoughts from
ego or superego. But there is awobbling in the Agya because of your
imbalanced ways. And the imbalancedways are, that sometimes you are
with ego or with superego.
This has happened to our people in the West because we have had
so much ofego [that] we got really tired of it. We got frightened
with it. Then we startedtaking to drugs and things to increase our
superego. But by doing that, what weare doing is pushing by one end
and bringing by another end and thats how weare wobbling our ego
and superego, by which we are not helping ourselves at all.
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So what one has to do is to rise within oneself up to the point
of Agya and try tosteady your Agya.
There are many people have asked Me one question: How to steady
the Agya?Agya is placed at the crossing point of our nerves and
also optic thalamus. Now,so it is said that, if you have wobbling
eyes, youll have a wobbling Agya. Youhave to steady your eyes, you
have to soothe them. Now it is very, very out ofdate, ancient, old
and all sorts of names that you call it, to a thing like that,
butyou must steady your eyes and steady them in such a way that it
is verysoothing for the eyes. [That] which is the most soothing
thing for the eyes is thegreen grass. If you could see the green
grass with your eyes, means you walkwith your eyes on the ground,
your eyes will be soothed, your Agya will bealright.
Thats why Christ said that, I tell you about the adulterous
eyes. He talkedabout adulterous eyes. The eyes with which you do
adultery. Is a very commonthing these days. Every woman, a man must
see; every man, a woman must see.As if it is the most important
job, if you have not seen one woman you arefinished! I mean this is
being modern. But I am an old fashioned lady, and, as atthe time of
Christ, He said, You should not have adulterous eyes. And the
oneswho have adulterous eyes are, no more than any other, but our
WesternChristians, who all the time, even in the church, even when
theyre givingsermons, their eyes are moving with adultery.
These eyes have to be very, very pure, very, very deep and very,
very lovingwhen you want to have your Agya alright, because you
receive through youreyes. Say, if you have closed your eyes, you do
not put your attention toanything because your eyes are closed, you
are not adding more thoughts toyourself. But if your eyes are open
you are adding much more thoughts becauseeverywhere the eyes go,
the attention goes, and you see things and createthoughts and put
in them. So your attention which has to go to the Spirit, whichhas
to go to God, which has to shine through the window of Divine:
thisbeautiful thing is ruined by the way we use our eyes and we do
not respect it.
Theres nothing so pure and beautiful as the grass on the ground
or the grounditself, which takes our feet, which supports us, which
looks after us, enriches us.We should put our eyes on the Mother
Earth instead of looking at every person.
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But from Sahaja Yoga point of view, now many of you know what
happens toyour eyes when you look at somebody: maybe an entity
might enter your eyes.And it is, youll be amazed, that it is the
play of the entity what we call this so-called flirting is. I have
talked about it, before also, and people didnt like itwhen I told
them about it, but I have seen actual entities entering from eyes
toeyes. I have seen very simple people who come down to such
places, say in aparty. In a party, people are just exchanging
entities from one eye to another.Once it goes to another person, he
puts his entity into another person, and thatgoes into another
person. All the time your attention is diverted and you feel itis
attracted towards something, you do not know why it is
attracted.
Now the certain symbols are also made like that. To add up to
the problems, yousee, all the society is working at it that you
should appear in such a way thatevery man should look at you, every
woman should look at you. Why? What isthe use? Supposing I look at
you what do I get? What do I get by looking at aperson? What is the
advantage? Just looking at a person? We are wasting such alot of
energy for what?
In the same way if you are walking on the roads, on, say, some,
we are seeingsome beautiful things, alright. If you have to buy
something, alright go ahead,see those things, whatever you have to
select is alright. But all the time justbecause your eyes are such,
you are just doing it and you do not know thereason why you are
doing like this, all the time why your eyes are wobbling. Andthat
is a sure and certain sign for a person to become mad. Absolutely,
thats asure and certain sign is, when a person is mad how do you
make it out that aperson is lunatic? If you see his eyes the iris
in the eyes are all the timewobbling, they cannot keep it steady.
Or [if] they are sick theyre also, you cansee that these eyes are
all the time wobbling, there is no steadiness.
Not only this but you have seen those people who have come in
the Sahaja Yogawhen they close their eyes they find their eyes are
flickering. Their eyelids areflickering. That means theres some
sort of a disturbance in the Kundalinirising. Whole tension if you
call it as hundred then at least 80% of it comesthrough our eyes.
Then how important it is to protect our eyes from all kind
ofuseless activities we are doing.
Christ Christs life shows so many aspects of how to respect
others. But one ofthem which has been very much misused throughout
is that of the prostitute.He saved the prostitute, He saved her no
doubt. But you spoil the prostitutes. A
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good woman you make her into prostitutes. You give her ideas by
which shebecomes a prostitute. A good hussif (housewife) is turned
into a prostitute by anegoistical man. Young small girls who are
virgins are being destroyed by yourdirty glances. Do you realise
this? That you are doing just the opposite whatChrist had done? And
you say that He saved, Christ, so even if we are prostitutesHell
save us. But why be prostitutes? This is such a stupid style of
thinking.That we should become prostitutes so that Christ will save
us.
One has to think about all these things in the proper light of
Sahaja Yoga. Unlessand until you are realised, My talk is just
useless for you. But once you arerealised, you will know that, if
you glance at someone, you might suddenly get aheadache at the
back, you might feel a dart has gone into your head orsomething has
happened, you might feel that youre blinding with somebodysface and
you will get all kinds of experiences by which you will know
howimportant are your eyes.
All your nervousness and everything can be cured if you have
pure eyes. But it issuch a vicious circle that, through your eyes,
you gather all the bad, and isaccumulated in the Agya and you have
to clear the Agya to make the eyes clear.Its a vicious circle. But
it can start at a point as I said, we have to ask forforgiveness.
Secondly we have to bring Christ in our Agya chakra. Thirdly wehave
to give up all drugs and all intoxicants and all smoking.
That happens automatically when you are a sahaja yogi, it will
work out. Buteyes express the whole of your being, your brain, your
body, your limbseverything. And if your Agya is alright then your
eyes are perfectly alright. Theyemit nothing but love wherever they
glance. Only with a glance of your eyes youcan raise the Kundalini.
Only with the glance of your eyes you can cure people.Only with
your glance you can bring joy into the destroyed and the
ruinedpeople.
So these eyes which you see are the windows of your being, of
your heart. Whenthe Spirit is expressed through your eyes, you must
have noticed yourself that,when the Kundalini rises then the eyes
become dilated. And a realised soul hasgot black eyes because they
have these eyes are dilated. At least when I see themthey are all
dilated black eyes. Apart from that, a realised soul can be made
outby his eyes which are sparkling, theres a sparkle like diamonds;
they sparkle allthe time and you can make out from the eyes that
this person is a realised soul.Theres a tremendous dierence between
a non-realised souls eyes and the
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realised souls eyes. So you can imagine how your Spirit sees
through your eyes,but if the eyes are not pure It doesnt stay there
long. So if we have tounderstand Christ, physically, we have to
respect our eyes, mentally, we have togive up all that is impure in
our mind.
Now, so we come to the impurities of the mind: And the
impurities of mind are,I mean, there are so many poisons, you know,
about. I mean there are books andbooks written about the poisons.
And the psychologists are supposed to take outall your poisons. I
dont know if they can do it at all. But they have the worstAgya.
All these psychologists have the worst Agya and I dont think they
arecapable of really giving any relief to people who are suering
mentally. Mentalsuerings are of two types. Say the same thing is
that one isvibrations are somuchOne type of mental troubles are
where people oppress you very much,you see, you go on bearing the
cross! Now this is a very wrong idea people haveabout Christ.
Bearing the cross doesnt mean that, anybody who tries tooppress,
you should go on taking the enslavement upon yourself. Youre not
toenslave to anyone whatsoever. Anybody who tries to make a slave
out of you,you should deny it absolutely! You should say hum, I am,
Who are you todominate me? Anyone whether you are of a black skin,
or a red skin or a yellowskin, nobody has right to dominate anyone
in this whole world, and if anybodyis doing it, Oh what to do now,
after all you see we are poor people, or we arelike this or hes
supporting, and all that: then they are running away from theirduty
towards themselves. Such people cannot get Realisation. Slaves are
notgoing to become kings.
So the slavery that is supposed to be confused with bearing the
cross is anotherconfusion of modern times, you see. We have to rise
in our self-respect and wehave to understand that no one in this
world has a right to dominate us.
But then what is bearing of the cross is? First of all the
people of His level neversuer. Its just a joke going on. Its a
leela, its a play going on for them. Theynever suer, and even if
they so-called act as suering, they just do it becausethey want to
do it. They are not helpless people, they are not slaves. And
thosewho think that by bearing it up and by suering it we are
becoming Christians,they should know they are psychological cases.
And if they are crying andweeping and all the time saying, What to
do, you see, I am in love and my lovertortures me. You are neither
in love neither you have a lover. It is a kind of apsychological
clubbing. That he is a dominating man and you like hisdomination,
thats why you are together, is a simple fact.
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So every human being has his own self-respect. And he must
respect his selfthat is the Spirit within him. And nothing should
dominate it. Whether youbelong to this country or that country, or
this ism or that ism. All this will breakdown. Under the rule of
God nobody has the right to dominate anybodys Spirit.But when you
are given freedom, you go to the other side that is Mr. Ego. You
donot know how to use your freedom, so you try to dominate others.
Your freedomis [making] everybodys freedom is in danger. You are on
top of everyone, andtorturing everybodys souls. And you are
dominating by land and by propertiesor by possessions. So either
this way or that way, mentally if you are of thiscategory or that
category, you are against yourself.
Just be in the centre and see for yourself. Just be looking at
it. Are you emittinglove towards another person? If you are a
slave, how can you love? You cannot. Ifyou are free and abandoned,
how can you love? Love has its own bondages,very sweet and
beautiful. You have to live with them. You enjoy those bondages.For
a little child will come to your house and he will spoil your
house, no doubt,and that he should do, and you should enjoy that
spoiling. Then your freedom,if it is challenged by a little childs
crying, then you are not wise people. This isabandonment! Or I
would say it is loneliness, it is cutting out from thePrimordial,
from the Big One, from the large one that you are: is not to be
able totolerate the freedom of others. A child has no freedom to
cry in the house? Whatsort of freedom you conceive of. A mother has
no right to say something shewants to say about her child? Which is
her duty to tell him what is right andwrong. If the son does not
have [the] right to eat whatever he likes in his ownmothers family
then what sort of freedom do you have? Its such a confusion
ofthings.
So this kind of freedom is just the opposite and extreme of
enslavement. But inthe centre is love where you are bound by
everyone. I am bound by My children;yes, I am, I am proud of them.
They bound Me and I bound them too. Its amutual bounding which we
enjoy among ourselves. There is such a give andtake when there is
such a bondage of love. But do we understand theimportance of
bondage of love? At the slightest pretext we break it. Say a
wifesays, I would like to go out today. The husband has said Why? I
am very tireddont you understand? Or if the husband says, I feel
like eating something, orsome particular thing, he says pancake or
something, a small thing. Oh I amvery tired every time you are
demand If she could just think [that], by makingthat little thing,
he would be so very happy. She should be dying to know whathe
wants. And he should be dying to do what she wants. And then enjoy
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others company or you are wasting all your properties that you
have as humanbeings.
You dont know how much you are wasting from each other. Every
moment isfilled with such beautiful bondages, where exchanges are
there. What have yougained? The way you are fighting, the way you
are going about: what have yougained let me see?
When you die you have to announce in the paper that XYZ is dead
and youfind there is nobody. And you have even to pay for people to
visit you when youdie. This is the case today. Such dryness, such
emptiness, such loneliness exists.What have you achieved through
this?
So this bondage we have to [have]. And there is no question of
sacrifice you see,the way we must sacrifice for the family. What
are you sacrificing? I mean if youpay for your family you get the
joy out of it, thats why you do it. If you have tolead a nice good
life you are not sacrificing anything but you are gaining by
that,leading a good life. If your wife says, Dont go to the pub,
and if you do not gothere, then you should not say, She is an
orthodox, old fashioned this that, thatand that and that. But
instead you should thank you stars that, in this moderntimes also
that, there is somebody whos telling you the truth. Because
thewhole edifice has come up, do you mean to say that truth should
not be told? Allthis is falsehood in which you are living, and if
you have to be happy comedown to Reality.
Friends, also same thing: With the friends what sort of
relations do we have withour friends? What do we expect from them?
Sending them a Christmas card andthen if they dont send, feeling
bad about it. There are no deeper bondages, wehave not lived with
them. If you allow our self to be bound by them, they will bebound
by us. You better try this. Try to be bound by them, dont be afraid
ofanybody else. Just try to be bound by others and youll be amazed
how muchthey will be giving you. I am a living example of this. I
can tell you, I am a livingexample of this; I am bound by all of
you. If somebody says, Mother when areyou going to leave us? No I
cannot. I cannot. I am just bound by you. I just donot want to
leave because I love you very much. How can I leave you?
Itsimpossible for Me. So then, what do I gain out of this life?
Every thing that is in this world!
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What do you want Me to get? I cannot even count what I can get
out of it.Immeasurable ocean. I become an ocean Myself. Break your
ideas about yourown personal freedom and liberation, [what you are
doing] is liberating yourintelligence, you are liberating your own
wisdom. And the sweetness and thebeauty which is never perishable,
whether you are old or young. That is going tobe your own.
But these poisons that are being built outside and inside you,
please throw themaway. These are mental poisons. Through Agya you
can take them out. You see,this is an opening also through which
many things go out. Try to work it out.Look at the tree with love
and youll find that the tree itself is giving you the joyof its
creation. Because youll become thoughtless. And the Creator who
hasmade that beautiful tree will be pouring all that joy which is
stored into it. Everyhuman being is a store of joy, unlimited! I
assure you, believe Me. And dontwaste them because somebody is not
properly dressed, or hes not according tothe way you want him to
be: which you learnt in your public school! Everydoorstep,
everywhere there is beauty lying, do not miss it. But if you have
apossessiveness about it, an adultery about it, then you can never
enjoy them,you can never enjoy all that beauty, all that store, all
that wealth that is in everyhuman being: every moment it is
bubbling.
For Agya its a good thing, Christmas is coming. And at the time
that, when Ihave to wish you a Happy Christmas, that, at this
occasion, I am speaking aboutAgya chakra in which, what I said is,
Agya is: one must know what to order andhow to obey, obey the
Divine, obey your elders, obey your Self and not your ego and then
you can order also others; not only human beings, but you can
evenorder The Sun and The Moon and all the winds and everything in
the world.Everything you can control, everything with this Agya.
You try one thing. If youknow somebody is going to do something
wrong, just take his name and put itto Agya: Hell not do it. Try
it! This is a trick Im telling about for those who arerealized
souls not for those who are not yet realized. But those who are
realizedcan try. If the other person is doing something wrong you
can try your Agya.
Anything you order on your Agya will be respected but your Agya
must haveChrist there. Because you have The Great Support awakened
within you, whichdoes not exist [only] here, but into every mans
head. It is all pervading, into allsmall atoms and molecules, it is
everywhere into The Sun and any place you go.It is there.
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So try to develop your Agya, that is the mastery of your self.
Those who have agood Agya can master anything. And understand that
the idea about masteringworldly things and mastering human beings
and mastering this and some ofthem are mastering in, say, other
crafts and things, best thing is to master yourAgya! And you really
become the master of yourself by which you can mastermany
things.
And today on this great day when Im wishing you a Happy
Christmas, I wishyou to have the most powerful Agya, that people,
when they see your foreheadshould know that Christ is reborn again
with in you.
May God bless you!
H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi