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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 Conformity assessment  – Requirements for bodies certifying products, 

    processes and

     services

    Presentation on the new standard

    2012-09-26

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    Introduction

    This presentation has been developed by the Drafting Group of ISO CASCO WG 29.

    The aim is to support all interested parties concerned by the implementation of thisnew standard, e.g. conformity assessment bodies, accreditation bodies, industrieswith general information and contribute to an harmonized transition.

    This is an open presentation without any copyrights and can be used by anyone.

    We welcome any information about product certification in your region, country, e. g.number of schemes, number of accredited certification bodies, number of certificatesunder ISO/IEC Guide 65 / ISO/IEC 17065, if you have any please send it [email protected]

    ISO CASCO Secretary ISO CASCO Convenor WG 29

    Sean MacCurtain Christian Priller  

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    Table of content

    • Importance / Impact of product certification for global trade 4

    • Product, Process and Service Certification 5

    • Timeline of Revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to ISO/IEC 17065 7

    • Purpose of Revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to ISO/IEC 17065 10

    • Content of ISO/IEC Guide 65 to ISO/IEC 17065 11

    • Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to ISO/IEC 17065 13

    • ISO/IEC 17065:2012 22

    • Cross reference ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 to ISO/IEC 17065:2012 37• Cross reference ISO/IEC 17065:2012 to ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 46

    •Back-up slides: examples 55

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    Examples - Importance and Impact of

    product certification for global trade An unknown number of sectors, regulators, schemes and CB‘s run their operation

    under this requirements with an unknown number of certificates and products,

    this shows the great importance.

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    Europe:New Legilation Framework (NLF) over 20

    European Directives, Trade volume 1500

    mrd €, about 2000 Notified Bodies

    974 accredited certification bodies in Europe(source: European Co-operation Accreditation)

    International levelIEC CB Scheme:

    74 National Certification Bodies

    382 CB Testing Laboratories

    45 Satellite Laboratories

    2800 Manufacturer's Testing Laboratories

    70'000 CB Test Certificates issues in 2011

     Asia

    Japan

    JIS-mark : 25 certification bodies

    JAS-mark: 142 certification bodies

    PSE-mark: 10 certification bodies

    PSC-mark : 9 certification bodies

    PAL : 13 certification bodiesChina:

    35 accredited Certification Bodies

    10 Certification Bodies response for China

    Compulsory Certification (CCC)

    50,728 companies with 280,000 certificates

    for CCC

    New Zealand/Australia36 certification bodies for product certification

    70 product certification schemes delivered by 36

    accredited bodiesBrasil70 accredited Certification Bodies

    USA120 Accredited Certification Bodies

    Germany:

    GS-mark

    91 bodies

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    Product, Process and Service Certification

    (1)

    The overall aim of certifying products, processes or services is to give

    confidence to all interested parties that a product, process or servicefulfills specified requirements.

    The value of certification is the degree of confidence and trust that is

    established by an impartial and competent demonstration of fulfillmentof specified requirements by a third-party.

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    Product, Process and Service

    Certification (2)

    Parties that havean interest incertification

    include, but arenot limited to:

    the clients of the

    certificationbodies; the customersof the

    organizationswhose products,

    processes or

    services arecertified;

    governmentalauthorities;

    non-governmentalorganizations;

    and

    consumers andother membersof the public.

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    Timeline of Revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065

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    date activity output Participants Results ballot

    2007‐04  1st WG 29 meeting  – definition 

    of  scope and structure of  revision   WD1 30

    2007‐09 1st DG meeting WD2

    2008‐04 2nd DG meeting   WD3

    2008‐04 2nd WG 29 meeting WD4 35

    2008‐10 3rd DG meeting WD5

    2009‐03 4th DG meeting WD6

    2009‐06 3rd WG 29 meeting CD1 37

    2009‐07 CD out for ballot78% approval

    1040 comments

    submitted

    2010-03  Change of  Convenor Mario 

    Wittner > Christian Priller

    2010‐04 4th WG 29 meeting   43

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    Timeline of Revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065

    date activity output Participation Results ballot

    2010‐06 5th DG WG 29 meeting CD2

    2010‐08 CD2 out for ballot for two months91% approval

    570 comments

    submitted

    2011‐01 6th DG meeting

    2011‐02  5th WG 29 meeting in conjunction with WG 

    32

      DIS 35

    2011‐05 DIS out for ballot88% approval

    440 comments

    submitted

    2012‐01 7th DG meeting (Geneva)

    2012‐

    02 6

    th

    WG 

    29 

    meeting 

    (Munich) FDIS 30

    2012‐04 FDIS out for vote

    2012‐07 FDIS approved  95% approval in ISO 

    and 100% in IEC

    2012‐09 Publication IS

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    Timeline of Revision ISO/IEC Guide 67 to

    ISO/IEC 17067

    Status of ISO/IEC 17067

    Date  Activity 

    WG 32  Output   Participation Results (comments/voting)

    2010‐021st WG 32 meeting  –

    definition of  scope and 

    structure of  revision

    WD0 12

    2010‐09 2nd WG meeting WD1 10

    2011‐02 3rd WG meeting WD2 15

    2011‐10 4th WG meeting CD 12

    2011‐11 CD out for ballot   88% approval

    2012‐04 5th WG meeting DIS 15

    2012‐06 DIS

     out

     for

     ballot

    2013‐02 6th WG meeting FDIS

    Q2 2013 FDIS out for ballot

    Q3 2013 IS out

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    Content of ISO/IEC Guide 65 to ISO/IEC

    17065 (1)

    1. Scope

    2. Normative references

    3. Terms and definitions

    4. General requirements

    5. Structural requirements

    6. Resource requirements

    7. Process requirements

    8. Management system requirements

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    The content is aligned with the new structural requirements decided by

    ISO CASCO (8 chapters instead of 15 in ISO/IEC Guide 65)

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (1)

    The scope in ISO/IEC17065 specifies as in ISO/IEC Guide 65 three objects ofconformity assessment: product, process and service. New are the definitionsof these three terms based on the definitions in ISO 9000 but as servicecertification is increasingly used there is a stand alone definition of “service”

    The scope together with Annex B gives information on the application of thestandard for processes and services

    The scope clarifies that certification of products, processes and services is a

    third-party activity. The scope is to be read in connection with the definition of“certification body” in clause 3.12: third-party conformity assessment bodyoperating certification schemes

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (2)

    Certification schemes are mandatory part of product certification(ISO/IEC17065). The requirement to operate one or more certificationschemes is contained in clause 7.1.1. The term “scheme” replaces the term“system” used in ISO/IEC Guide 65

    ISO/IEC 17065 does not contain detailed requirements on certificationschemes. Guidelines for understanding, developing, establishing, maintainingor comparing certification schemes for products, processes and services will

    be provided in the future ISO/IEC 17067 “Fundamentals of product certificationand product certification schemes”

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (3)

    consultancy

    evaluation

    product, process, service

    certification requirement, product requirement

    certification scheme, certification scheme owner

    scope of  certification

    certification body

    impartiality

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    The definition chapter is considerably improved by definitions on

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (4)

    The requirements on impartiality in clause 4.2 have significantly been improved

    compared with the requirements in clause 4.2 o) of ISO/IEC Guide 65. Theobligatory requirements of PAS 17001 are incorporated in clause 4.2. Clause 4.2clarifies in detail what activities can be performed by the certification body and anypart of the legal entity it belongs to and what activities can be performed byorganizations with which the certification body has relationships

    Supplementing the impartiality requirements, a mechanism for safeguardingimpartiality is specified in clause 5.2. This mechanism is based on therecommended requirements in PAS 17001. It clarifies and details the provisions inclause 4.2 e) of ISO/IEC Guide 65 to enable the participation of partiessignificantly concerned. According to ISO/IEC17065 a possible mechanism can bea committee established by one or more certification bodies, a committeeimplemented by a scheme owner, a governmental authority or an equivalent party

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (5)

    The clause 6.2 on resources for evaluation is separated in internal

    resources and external resources (outsourcing). According to thedefinition in clause 3.3 of ISO/IEC17065, evaluation is a combinationof selection and determination functions of a conformity assessmentactivity. Determination functions are normally testing, inspection andauditing.

    Internal and external resources shall meet the applicable requirementsof the relevant International Standards and other documents as

    specified by the certification scheme. The relevant InternationalStandards include for testing ISO/IEC 17025, for inspection ISO/IEC17020 and for management system auditing ISO/IEC 17021

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65

    to ISO/IEC 17065 (6) The process chapter 7 follows the functional approach provided in

    ISO/IEC 17000 which consists of 

     – selection

     – determination

     – review

     – attestation – surveillance

    The functions “selection” and “determination” are in 17065 combined as

    function “evaluation”

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    evaluation

    Decision and insuance

     of 

     certificate if 

     relevant

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    Changes of revision ISO Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (7)

    The four-eyes principle contained in clause 4.2 f of ISO Guide 65 is kept inISO/IEC17065 by clarifying that the review and decision has to be performed byperson(s) different from those who carried out the evaluation whereas review anddecision can be done by the same person(s)

     As in ISO/IEC Guide 65 the certification decision shall be made by person(s)employed by or under contract with the certification body meaning thatsubcontracting or otherwise delegating the certification decision is not allowed. Thepossibility to use person(s) for the decision who are under the organizational

    control (clause 7.6.4) of the certification body is new. Organizational control is forexample whole or majority ownership regarding the legal entity that employs orcontracts the person(s) who make the certification decision

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (8)

    The management system requirements are concentrated in chapter 8.

     According to PAS 17005 the certification body has two options to establishand maintain a management system that is capable of achieving theconsistent fulfillment of the requirements of ISO/IEC 17065. Therequirements of option A are provided in detail in chapter 8. Option Bgives the possibility to use ISO 9001 as an alternative to fulfill therequirements contained in chapter 8

     An informative Annex A contains principles for certification bodies andtheir certification activities which are not requirements. The listed

    principles are those inspiring confidence in the certification activities. Keywords are impartiality, competence, confidentiality and openness,responsiveness to complaints and appeals and responsibility

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    Changes of revision ISO/IEC Guide 65 to

    ISO/IEC 17065 (9)

    Chapter 3

    Chapter 4

    Chapter 5

    Chapter 6 (detailed)

    Chapter 

    (detailed)

    Chapter 8

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    Detailed presentation of the most important clauses of the new

    ISO/IEC17065:2012

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 3.

    Terms and

    definitions

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    The definition chapter is considerably improvedby definitions based on ISO/IEC 17000

    • Client• Consultancy

    • Evaluation

    • product, process, service

    • certification requirement, product requirement

    • certification scheme, certification scheme owner • scope of certification

    • certification body

    • Impartiality

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 4.1

    Legal and

    contractual

    matters

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 butmore detailed description in:

    • legal responsibility (4.1.1)

    • certification agreement and use of licenses

    certificates (4.1.2)• marks of conformity (4.1.3)

    4. General requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 4.2 

    Impartiality

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    Significant improvements related to ISO/IEC Guide65:

    • Identification of the risks to impartiality

    • Impartiality in relation to other parts of the same legalentity and entities under organizational control

    • Impartiality in relation to separate legal entities

    • Firewalls to organizations or personnel providingconsultancy

    4. General requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 4.3

     Liability and 

    financing

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 

    65 but

     partially

     more

     detailed

     description

     

    Clause 4.4 

    Non‐discrimi

    ‐natory conditions

    Clause 4.5 

    Confidentiality

    Clause 4.6 

    Publicly 

    available 

    informations

    4. General requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 5.1 

    Organization

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65but partially more detailed description

    Clause 5.2

    SafeguardingImpartiality

    5. Structural

     requirements

    Significant changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 byintroducing a mechanism for safeguarding impartialitywhich can be

    a committee established by one or more CB’s

    a committee implemented by a scheme owner 

    a governmental authority or an equivalent party.

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    6.1 Personnel

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 but partially more detailed description. 

    6.2 Evaluation

    resources

    6. Resource

     requirements

    Significant changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 by introducing a more detailed description of  internal and 

    external resources.

     In

     ISO/IEC

     Guide

     65,

     external

     resources

     is called subcontracting. Internal resources can also be resources under the direct control of  the CB.

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 7.1 

    Scheme

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    Replacement of  the term “system” by the term “scheme”.Guidance on the development of  schemes will be given in future by ISO/IEC 17067.

    Clause 7.2/7.3 

    Application

    7. Process

     Requirements

    Application clause in ISO/IEC Guide 65 (8.2)  is replaced in ISO/IEC 17065 by clauses 7.2 “application” and 7.3 

    “application review”

     which

     provides

     a more

     detailed

     information. 

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 7.4

    Evaluation

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    The functions “selection” and “determination” are combined to the function “evaluation”.

    Apart from that no essential changes related to ISO/IEC 

    Guide 65

     but

     partially

     more

     detailed

     description

    7. Process

     Requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    Clause 7.5 

    Review

    7. Process

     Requirements

    Introducing the function  „review“ based on the functional approach provided in ISO/IEC 17000. 

    A certification

     body

     must

     have

     all

     information

     and

     results

    related to the evaluation to complete the review

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 7.6 

    Decision

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65.

    New is

     the

     possibility

     to

     use

     persons

     for

     the

     decision

     who

     

    are under the organizational control of  the CB.

    The function “decision” is based on the four‐eyes‐principal and can not be outsourced (subcontracted).

    7. Process

     Requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 7.7

    Documentation

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No 

    essential 

    changes 

    related 

    to 

    ISO 

    Guide 

    65 

    but 

    partially 

    more detailed description

    Clause 7.8 

    Directory

    7. Process

     Requirements

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 7.9 

    Surveillance

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO Guide 65 but partially more detailed description. 

    Clause 7.10 

    Changes

    7. Process

     Requirements

    Clause 7.11 

    Status

    Improvement related to ISO Guide 65 by more detailed description of  termination, reduction, suspension or withdrawal of  certification.

    Improvement related to ISO Guide 65 by introducing a more detailed description of  changes affecting certification (introduced by the scheme or initiated by the client). 

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    7.12 Records

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    No essential changes related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 

    7.13 Complaints / 

    Appeals

    7. Process

     Requirements

    Alignment with ISO PAS 17003

    ISO/IEC 17065 2012

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012

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    Clause 8. 

    Management‐

    system 

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    Alignment with ISO PAS 17005, introducing two alternative options. 

    The requirements

     for

     option

     A

     are

     contained

     in

     8.2

     to

     8.8. 

    Option B is based on ISO 9001.

    ISO/IEC 17065 2012

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    Principles

    (Annex A)

    ISO/IEC 17065 and relation to ISO/IEC Guide 65

    The informative Annex A contains the principles (no requirements) for product certification bodies and their activities.

    Process and 

    services

    (Annex B)

    The informative Annex B provides explanations for application of  this standard for certification of  processes and services.

    C f ISO/IEC G id

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    Cross reference ISO/IEC Guide

    65:1996 to ISO/IEC 17065:2012 (1)

    To properly compare

     ISO/IEC

     Guide

     65

     and

     ISO/IEC

     17065

     and

     before going

    through the cross reference tables that follows, we recommend reading the document «contextual changes in Product certification since publication of  ISO/IEC Guide 65» that is next to this presentation on ISO Online.

    As noted in this document, the underlying concepts of  conformity assessment, and product certification in particular, advanced significantly between 1996 (the publication of  ISO/IEC Guide 65) and 2009 (the initial 

    drafting of 

     ISO/IEC

     DIS

     17065). In

     some

     cases

     the

     requirement

     from

     ISO/IEC

     Guide 65 has been CHANGED (not simply restated or reworded) and the cross reference is intended to highlight the change

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    C f ISO/IEC G id 65 1996 t

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    Cross reference ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 to

    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 (2)ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 ISO/IEC 17065:2012 Remarks1.1/1st paragraph/competent 1

    1.1/1st paragraph/third-party 1 3rd sentence/3.12

    1.1/1st paragraph/certificationsystem

    3.9/7.1.1 System→ scheme

    1.1/2nd paragraph/product,

    process, service

    1 1st sen./3.4/3.5/3.6/Annex B

    1.2 7.1.1 Note 1 and 2

    3.1 3.1 Supplier→

     client

    4.1.1 4.4.1

    4.1.2 4.4.2/4.4.3

    4.1.3/1st and 2nd sentence 7.1.2

    4.1.3/3rd sentence 7.1.3

    4.1.4 4.4.4

    4.2 a) 4.2

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    Cross reference ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 to

    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 (3)ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 ISO/IEC 17065:2012 Remarks4.2 b) 7.6.1

    4.2 c) 5.1.3

    4.2 d) 4.1.1

    4.2 e) 1st sentence 5.1.1

    4.2 e) 2nd sentence 4.2.4/5.2

    4.2 f) 7.6.2

    4.2 g) 4.1.2.1

    4.2 h) 4.3.1

    4.2 i) 4.3.2

    4.2 j) 6.1.1.1

    4.2 k) 8

    4.2 l)   8.2.4 , 5.1.2

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    4.2 n) 5.1.4

    4.2 o)/related bodies 4.2.7/4.2.8

    4.2 o) 1) 4.2.6 a) – c)

    4.2 o) 2) 4.2.6 d) and e)

    4.2 o) 3) 4.2.3

    4.2 p) 7.13

    4.3/1st paragraph/1st sentence 7.4.4

    4.3/1st paragraph/2nd sentence 7.1.2

    4.3/2nd paragraph 6.2.1

    4.4 6.2.2

    4.4 Note 2 7.4.5

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    4.5 8

    4.5.3 a) 8.2.1

    4.5.3 c) 6.1.2.2 ISO/IEC17065 requirement

    applies only to individuals in the

    certification process

    4.5.3 d) 5.1.2

    4.5.3 e) 5.1.2 ISO/IEC17065 requirement

    more focused

    4.5.3 f) 8.5

    4.5.3 g) 8.3

    4.5.3 h) 8.2.5

    4.5.3 i) 6.1.2.1

    4.5.3 j) 6.2.2.4 d)

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    4.5.3 l) 7

    4.5.3 l) 1) 7.11, 7.7.3

    4.5.3 l) 2) 8.3

    4.5.3 m) 7.13

    4.5.3 n) 8.6

    4.6.1 17000 5.1; 17000 5.2; 7.6.2; 7.9.2; 7.11

    4.6.2 a) and b) 17000 5.1; 17000 5.2; 7.6.2; 7.9.2; 7.11

    4.6.2 c) 7.10

    4.7.1 8.6

    4.7.2 8.5

    4.8.1 b) 4.6 a)

    4.8.1 c) 4.6 a)

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    5.2.3 6.1.2.2

    6 7.10

    7 7.13

    8.1.1 4.6 a), 4.6 c

    8.1.2 4.1.2.2

    8.1.3 4.6 a)/7.1.3

    8.2 7.2, 7.3

    8.2.1/application form 7.2 Note 2

    9.1 7.3.1 – 7.3.4

    9.2 7.4.1

    9.3 7.4.2

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    10 7.4.4

    11 7.4.9

    11 b)/nonconformities 7.4.6

    12.1 7.6.2

    12.2 7.6.1

    12.3 7.7

    12.4 7.10

    13 7.9

    13.2 4.1.2.2 k)/7.10

    14 4.1.3

    15 4.1.2.2 j)

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996

    1 1.1/1st paragraph/competent

    1 1st sen./3.4/3.5/3.6/Annex B 1.1/2nd  paragraph/product, process, service

    1 3rd sentence/3.12 1.1/1st paragraph/third-party

    3.1 3.1

    3.4 1.1/2nd  paragraph/product, process, service

    3.5 1.1/2nd  paragraph/product, process, service

    3.6 1.1/2nd  paragraph/product, process, service

    3.9/7.1.1 1.1/1st paragraph/certification system

    4.1.1 4.2 d)

    4.1.2.1 4.2 g

    4.1.2.2 8.1.2, 8.2.1

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    4.1.3   14

    4.2 4.2 a; 4.2 e; 4.2 m; 4.2 o

    4.3.1 4.2 h

    4.3.2 4.2 i)

    4.4.1 4.1.1

    4.4.2/4.4.3 4.1.2

    4.4.3 4.1.2

    4.4.4 4.1.4

    4.5 4.10

    4.6 a) 4.8.1 b)

    4.6 a) 4.8.1 c)

    4.6 a) 8.1.1

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    4.6 a)/7.1.3 8.1.3

    4.6 b) 4.8.1 d)

    4.6 c) 4.8.1 e)

    4.6 d) 4.8.1 f)

    5.1.1 4.2 e) 1st sentence

    5.1.2 4.2 l)

    5.1.2 4.5.3 d)

    5.1.2 4.5.3 e) 17065 requirement more focused

    5.1.3 4.2 c)

    5.1.4 4.2 n)

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    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996

    5.2 4.2 e) 2nd sentence

    6.1.1.1/6.1.1.2 4.2 j)

    6.1.1.2 5.1.1

    6.1.1.3 4.10.1

    6.1.2.1 4.5.3 i)

    6.1.2.1 5.2.1

    6.1.2.1 d)/8.2.5 5.1.2

    6.1.2.2 4.5.3 c) 17065 requirement applies only to

    individuals in the certification process

    6.1.2.2 5.2.3

    6.1.3 5.2.2

    6.2.1 4.3/2nd paragraph

    6.2.2 4.4

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    6.2.2.4 d) 4.5.3 j)

    7.1.1 1.1/1st paragraph/certification system

    7.1.1 Note 1 and 2 1.2

    7.1.2 4.1.3/1st and 2nd sentence

    7.1.2 4.3/1st paragraph/2nd sentence

    7.1.3 4.1.3/3rd sentence

    7.1.3 8.1.3

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    7.2 8.2

    7.2 Note 2 8.2.1/application form

    7.3 9.1

    7.4.1 9.2

    7.4.2 9.3

    7.4.3 9.4

    7.4.4 4.3/1st paragraph/1st sentence

    7.4.4 10

    7.4.5 4.4 Note 2

    7.4.5 Note 4.4 Note 3

    7.4.6 11 b)/nonconformities

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    7.4.9 11

    7.6.1 4.2 b)

    7.6.1 12.2

    7.6.2 4.2 f)

    7.6.2 12.1

    7.7 12.3

    7.8 4.8.1 g)

    7.9 13

    7.10 4.6.2 c)

    7.10 6

    7.10 12.4

    7.10 13.2

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    7.11 4.5.3 l) 1), 4.6.1; 4.6.2 a; 4.6.2 b

    7.12/8.4 4.9

    7.13 4.2 p)

    7.13 4.5.3 m)

    7.13 7

    8 4.2 k)

    8.2.4 4.2 l)

    8.2.5 4.5.3 h) / 5.1.2

    8.2/8.3 4.8.2

    8.3 4.8.2

    8.3 4.5.3 g)

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    ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996 (8)

    ISO/IEC 17065:2012 ISO/IEC Guide 65:1996

    8.3 4.5.3 l) 2)

    8.4 4.9

    8.5 4.5.3 f)

    8.5 4.7.2

    8.6 4.5.3 n)

    8.6 4.7.1

    8.7 4.5.3 k)

     Annex B 1.1/2nd paragraph/product, process, service

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    p

    The following slides are meant to complement the presentation as they give more details and provide some

    examples on some of 

     the

     clauses

     and

     concepts

     of 

     the

     standard

    These slides will be added to over

     time

     to

     make them more

     

    comprehensive. Any questions on the back up slides can bedirected to CASCO Secretariat ([email protected]

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    y p

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    1990  2000   2010

    1980

    ISO Guide 40

    1983

    ISO 

    Guide 

    23

    1982

    ISO Guide 67

    1981

    ISO Guide 65

    1996

    ISO 

    Guide 

    23

    1982

    ISO Guide 67

    1981

    ISO/IEC 17065

    ISO/IEC 17067

    2013until than

    existing ISO 

    Guide 23

    and 67

    2012

    Relation between certification body and

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    y

    scheme owner Scheme owner 

    runs a scheme

    Guidelines 

    for 

    schemes are 

    given in

    ISO/IEC 17067

    Requirements 

    for certification

     

    bodies  are 

    given in ISO/IEC 

    17065

    Scheme

    Stakeholder Scheme owner

    manufactorer,

    operator,

    deliverer of  

    a

    product, 

    process or 

    services

    Certification Body

    and

    Conformityassessment

    Customer

    Scheme owner can be the certification body, governmenal authority,

    trade association, group of CB‘S, …..

    ISO/IEC 17030

     

    for the labels 

    and their use

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    testing, inspection and auditing

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    Testing with

    own ressource 

    / equipment

    Use equipment from

    Manufacturer 

    (underthe CB control)

    Test reports from

    bodies 

    or 

    parties other than the CB

    Full outsourcing

    All those examples are covered in Clauses 6 of  ISO/IEC 17065

    Certification body

    Examples of Resources Personnel

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    Certification Body

    Own Personnel

    Work Contract

    Free Lancer

    Contract

    related Company

    Agreement

    All those examples are

     covered in

     Clause

     6 of 

     ISO/IEC

     17065

    Examples: how a CB can beiti d i bi i ti

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    positioned in a bigger organisation

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    Holding

    Legal Entity 1

    Div. 1.1

    Business Area 1.1.1

    Business Area . 1.1.2

    Reg. 1.1 Reg. 1.2

    Legal Entity 2

    CB

    Dep.  2.1

    Legal Entity 3

    Legal Entity 3.1

    Legal Entity 3.2

    Legal Entity 4

    Div. 4.1

    Div. 4.2

    Div. 4.3

    Ext.

    This shows possible position of  a CB within a bigger organisation

    Example of possible arrangement forO i ti l C t l

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    Organizational Control

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    Certification

    Body

    Person/employeeRelatedcompany

    Organizational Control is to

    supervise that the related

    company does not influence

    the person in its work for the

    CB

     Agreement to

    follow CB rules

    and procedure

    Work contract

    This relates to Clause 7.6.4 of  ISO/IEC 17065. This is one possibility for 

    organisational control among many

    Functional Approach

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    …  • Selection

    …  • Determination

    …  • Review

    …   • Attestation

    …  • Surveillance

    Evaluation

    Insuance of a

    certificate afterdecision

    The right part of  the chart (evaluation – Insuance of  certificate) is the terminology

    used in ISO/IEC 17065 

    The functional approach is described in

     ISO/IEC

     17000

     (left part

     of 

     the

     chart below)

    Process steps / requirements

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    • 7.1  General

    • 7.2  Application

    • 7.3  Application review

    • 7.4 Evaluation

    • 7.5 Review

    • 7.6 Certification decision

    • 7.7 Certification documentation

    • 7.8 Directory 

    of  

    certified 

    products

    • 7.9 Surveillance

    • 7.10 Changes affecting certification

    • 7.11 Termination, reduction, suspension or withdrawal of  certification

    • 7.12 Records

    • 7.13 Complaints and appeals

    Maintenance group (1)

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    Maintain a knowledge base (e.g. the reason why a requirement has been included).

    Assist CASCO Secretariat with queries related to the standard.

    Provide expertise and be available as a panel member for the interpretation process.

    Advise on any amendments and corrigendum between revisions.

    Any other

     function

     directly

     related

     to

     the

     content

     of 

     the

     standard.

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    The level of  work is expected to be limited. There is no meeting foreseen. It 

    is mainly required from the members to be available to fulfill the functions

    described above. 

    Suggestion is that the members of  the drafting group would be the members

    of  the maintenance group.

    Mandate

    Maintenance group (2) Members

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    Mr. Sumio Asada JISC (Japan)

    Ms. Andrea Barroso Melo Monteiro de Queiroz ABNT (Brazil)

    Mr. Alister Dalrymple AFNOR (France)

    Ms. Yunhua Chen SAC (China)

    Mr. Ian Cleare BSI (United Kingdom)

    Mr. Graeme Drake SA (Australia)

    Mr. 

    Reinaldo Figueiredo ANSI 

    (USA)

    Mr. Steve Keeling SA (Australia)

    Mr. Pedro Loste AENOR (Spain)

    Mr. Leif  Madsen DS (Denmark)

    Mr. 

    Paul 

    Moliski IAF

    Mr. 

    Keith 

    Mowry ANSI 

    (USA)Mr. Christian Priller (Convenor WG 29) DIN (Germany)

    Mr Jaap Prummel NEN 

    (Netherlands)

    Mr. Lorenz Roggli SNV (Switzerland)  – ILAC

    Mr. Hinrich Schaub ON (Austria)

    Mr. Thomas Facklam IAF

    Mr. Hanspeter Ischi SNV (Switzerland)  – ILAC alternate

    Mr. Heribert Schorn (DIN  – Germany)

    Mr. Alan Squirrell ILAC

    Mr. Pierre de Ruvo   IEC

    Thank you … a great work goes tofinish

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    finish …

     After a long and intensive work with ISO CASCO WG 29 over the last years

    I like to say Thank you as your Convenor,

    hopefully not to forget somebody or something now, If so, I say sorry in advance.

    I like to say Thank you to ISO Secretary, to all of them,

    To my parent Convenor Mario Wittner,

    To all of you and to everybody for your great credit, support and nice and hard discussions,

    To the support of the Drafting Group, without them it would not be possible for me.

    Looking in front of, I see the result of a very well balanced new standard for the economic systemand all participants in the system.

     And hope to see you all soon, it was a pleasure for me to work so close with you !

    I wish you all good luck, health and success

    Yours Christian Priller, Convenor 

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