Let's Talk Bitcoin, episode 108, "The People and Projects"

8/12/2019 Let's Talk Bitcoin, episode 108, "The People and Projects"

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LETS TALK BITCOINEpisode 108 The People and Projects

Participants:

Adam B. Levine (ABL) HostStephanie M!ph" (SM) Co#host$a!sha ($a!sha) Co#%onde! o% $i&mAnne' and omensAnne'o"a Mah*oo* (M) Co#%onde! o% $i&mAnne' and omensAnne'+mit!" M!ash,hi- a-a assah (+M) Commnit" mana/e! %o! M",e&im 0a&&et

Nei&& Mi&&e! (NM) # Co#%onde! o% A&t,oin La*s1onathan 2eva&&os (12) Co#%onde! o% A&t,oin La*sMi,hae& 3e!-&in (M3) +i!e,to! %o! Bit,oin A&&ian,e o% Canada and p!omote! o%

C!"pto,!!en," Ce!ti%i,ation Conso!timMa!- Ed/e (ME) adio host o% $!eeTa&- Live

ABL: Today is May 10th 2014 and this is Episode 108. This prora! is intended "or

in"or!ational and ed#cational p#rposes only. $ryptoc#rrency is a ne% "ield o" st#dy.

$ons#lt yo#r local "#t#rist& la%yer and in'est!ent ad'isor (e"ore !a)in any decisions

%hatsoe'er "or yo#rsel". *0:1+,

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e&,ome to Lets Ta&- Bit,oin5 a t0i,e 0ee-&" sho0 a*ot the ideas5 peop&e and p!o6e,ts*i&din/ the di/ita& e,onom" and the %t!e o% mone". M" name is Adam B. Levine andtoda"s sho0 is a*ot the peop&e.

In 789:5 the mo*i&e spa,e is heatin/ p. I sat do0n 0ith assah5 ,ommnit" mana/e!

at the M",e&im 0a&&et team to ta&- thei! ne0 Lo,a& T!ade! %eat!e and 0hat ,omesne't

Then5 Stephanie M!ph" ,a/ht p 0ith Nei&& and 1onathan o% A&t,oin La*s. The"

ta&- ed,ation and ,ons&tation5 meetps and Hnte!,oin

Late!5 on a !oo%top in To!onto5 I spo-e 0ith Mi,hae& 3e!-&in a*ot the C!"pto,!!en,"

Ce!ti%i,ation Conso!tim. hat it is and ho0 it 0o!-s

$ina&&"5 0e ,&ose toda"s sho0 0ith Ma!- Ed/e o% $!eeTa&- Live. One o% the ea!&iest

media pe!sona&ities invo&ved 0ith Bit,oin5 he and Stephanie e'p&o!e the ea!&" da"sand ho0 %a! 0eve ,ome

Bt %i!st5 $a!sha and o"a a!e %onde!s o% 000.$i&mAnne'.,om5 a *&o//in/ p&at%o!m

that pa"s pa!ti,ipants in Bit,oin. Stephanie 6oins them no0 ;9

-tephanie M#rphy inter'ie% %ith arsha and /oya
http://www.filmannex.com/http://www.filmannex.com/


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-M: Im he!e ta&-in/ 0ith $a!sha and o"a and the" a!e Bit,oin *&o//e!s. Ladies5 0e&,ometo the sho0. ;9

arsha: Than- "o ve!" m,h %o! havin/ s. ;9

/M: Than- "o ve!" m,h %o! havin/ s. ;9

-M: e a!e at the Inside Bit,oins ,on%e!en,e in Ne0 @o!- and I met Mi,hae&5 ove! the!e5%!om $i&mAnne' and he said that hes /ot a *&o//in/ p&at%o!m 0he!e peop&e ,an /et paid to

*&o/. @o a!e *oth %!om A%/hanistan5 is that !i/ht ;9

-M: @eah. ;:


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/M: e ,an send to o! se!s an" p&a,e in A%/hanistan. The!e is no need that the" have to,ome to the *an- o! the" have to ,ome to a spe,i%i, &o,ation. The" ,an !e,eive thei! moniesin thei! 0a&&ets. As $a!sha sa"s that 0e have 5888 stdents5 %ema&e stdents in A%/hanistan5de to some p!o*&ems &i-e the" dont have a *an- a,,ont5 o! the %ami&" is not a&&o0ed themo! thei! a/e is not.... I mean5 the" a!e not o% a ,e!tain a/e to /et a *an- a,,ont. The!e a!e

a&so othe! se,!it" p!o*&ems. i/ht no05 0e a!e sin/ the *it,oins and then the stdents 6ststa!ted in $e*!a!" to !e,eive the *it,oins and the" a!e happ" 0hen the" have a 0a&&et5 thenthe" ,an *" on&ine st%%. e a!e a&so ta&-in/ 0ith some o% the &o,a& shops that the" ,ane',han/e thei! *it,oins and *" st%% in A%/hanistan5 on&ine. ;:

-M: Ho0 0o&d "o %ind *&o//e!s Is it a so,ia& media thin/ +oes it /et sha!ed and thenpeop&e %ind ot a*ot the *&o/5 o! %ind ot th!o/h thei! %!iends ;


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sta!ted to 0o!-in/ in o! ,ente!s and then the" ,an invite thei! %!iends5 so that it ,an /!o0.e a!e not on&" in A%/hanistan5 0e a&so have some %ema&e stdents in 3a-istan and 0e havesta!ted in E/"pt as 0e&&. ;

-M: Ho0 do "o ma-e mone".... &i-e5 ho0 do "o p!ovide the *it,oins to pa" the *&o//e!s

0ith ;

arsha: O! !evene is *ased on on&ine adve!tisin/ so 0heneve! "o p!od,e *&o/s andvideo spa,e on the ,ontents o% the othe! peop&e that sha!e "o! *&o/s. I% "o sha!e othe!

peop&es *&o/s5 0hi,h is impo!tant5 "o 0i&& /et paid *" the meas!ement that # 0e ,a&& it* s,o!e5J 0hi,h is o! meas!ement5 0hi,h is "o! so,ia& a,tivit"5 0hi&st 0e pa" "o

*ased on "o! a,tivit". ;

-M: I% some*od" is &ivin/ in 3a-istan5 A%/hanistan o! E/"pt5 ho0 m,h ,an the" ma-edoin/ somethin/ &i-e this ;

/M: It is dependent on thei! 0o!-s and a,tivities. Some stdents ,an /et paid &i-e ?885some stdents on&" ,an /et ?87885 and it 6st depends on ho0 m,h the" a!e a,tive.;

-M: 3e! *&o/ post o! pe! 0ee- ;

/M: No5 its pe! month. ;

-M: Oh5 pe! month5 OK. ;

/M: @es. ;

-M: I% "o!e in A%/hanistan5 that mi/ht /o %!the! than Ne0 @o!- Cit"5 !i/ht ;

/M: @eah5 I mean 988 is a &ot o% mone" %o! them and then the" ,an do eve!"thin/ 0iththem5 even some o% the %ami&ies o! pa!ents 0ho a!e 0o!-in/ otside 0o&d p!o*a*&" *e988978. 988 on&" %o! one %ema&e is a &ot o% mone"5 espe,ia&&" 0hen the" a!e stdents o%s,hoo&s. ;G

-M: @eah5 de%inite&". I 0ant to ta&- a*ot 0omen in Bit,oin. e,ent&" 0e 0e!e 6st ta&-in/a*ot this. $a!sha and I 6st %i&med an inte!vie0 a*ot 0omen in Bit,oin and the media

pe!,eption that the!e a!e no 0omen invo&ved in Bit,oin. hat do "o thin- a*ot this aspeop&e 0ho have a ,ompan" that e'ists to *!in/ 0omen on *oa!d and pa" them 0ith Bit,oin;G

arsha: I thin- its not on&"... its &i-e a t"pi,a& thin/ %o! *siness o! te,hno&o/". omensinvo&vement is a&0a"s &ess than men *t I thin- the impo!tant thin/ is that 0e have to ma-eand *i&d a ve!" st!on/ ,ommnit". I thin- 0e *e&ieve in ,ommnit" *i&din/5 0hi,h is nota&0a"s as ph"si,a& spa,es o! /eo/!aphi,a& p&a,es. On&ine ,ommnit" *i&din/ is ve!"impo!tant so thats 0h" 0e t!" to &et the 0omen 0ho have ,e!tain p!o*&ems in spe,i%i,,ont!ies5 ma"*e the" a!e se,!it" p!o*&ems. The" ,annot /o ot so 0e invite them to ,omeon&ine and sppo!t ea,h othe!. I% I have a ve!" /ood e'pe!ien,e on Bit,oin5 I de%inite&" 0o&d

0!ite a *&o/ a*ot it. I have this 0a" that I made this di/ita& 0a&&et5 I !ea&&" &oved it and I ,ansend and !e,eive mone". I &ove m" %!iends 0ho a&so have the *ene%it o% that. I 0i&& te&& m"


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%!iend and m" %!iend has anothe! %!iend5 so its a&& a*ot sp!eadin/ the 0o!d. O% ,o!se50heneve! 0e !e0a!d a pe!son in Bit,oin5 the" 0i&& *e&ieve that de%inite&" this ,!!en," 0i&&he&p them mo!e. Step *" step5 this messa/e 0i&& *e sp!ead a!ond the ,ommnit"5 so 0e

*e&ieve that its not on&" a dis,ssion %o! men *t a&so %o! 0omen that ,an empo0e! them.;98

-M: I% someone is a *&o//e! on this p&at%o!m and the" /et paid in Bit,oin and the"!e &ivin/in A%/hanistan5 ho0 do "o p!ovide sppo!t %o! them to se othe! t"pes o% Bit,oin 0a&&ets o!tea,h them ho0 to do t!ansa,tions5 o! do the" 6st -ind o% %i/!e that ot *" themse&ves;99

/M: No5 0e p!ovide t!ainin/ %o! them. e have a p&an that %o! the %t!e that a&so 0e 0i&&p!ovide t!ainin/ on ho0 the" ,an do minin/. i/ht no05 the" 6st -no0 ho0 to /et thei!mone" and a*ot the t!ansa,tion and ho0 to ma-e the 0a&&et *t5 in %t!e5 0e 0ant to tea,hthem ho0 to do the side o% the minin/ *it,oins. ;99

-M: !eat. ;99

arsha: e a&0a"s t!" to pdate o! se!s in $i&mAnne' and omensAnne' p&at%o!m.Thats 0h" 0e a&0a"s5 eve!" da" o! eve!" t0o othe! da"s5 0e 0!ite a *&o/ a*ot o! ,e!tain,han/es in the p&at%o!m and eve!"thin/ a*ot Bit,oin *e,ase 0e 6st shi%t to Bit,oin5 so 0ea!e /oin/ to &et the se!s. e a&0a"s pdate them a*ot eve!"thin/ and o"a said5 0e a!e

p!ovidin/ a ,e!tain t!ainin/ %o! /i!&s in s,hoo&s &i-e ho0 to ma-e a di/ita& 0a&&et and %o! othe!se!s. e a&0a"s t!" to -eep pdate the se!s and /ive them the in%o!mation so the" %ee& %!eeto inte!a,t 0ith s and 0e&& &et them pt thei! ,omments5 o! thei! ideas in to *&o/s. e /oth!o/h the estions and 0e t!" to !ep&" to them in *&o/s o! video. ;97

-M: @eah5 that ma-es tota& sense. OK5 an"thin/ e&se "o 0ant to add ;97

arsha: Than- "o ve!" m,h and it 0as ve!" ni,e meetin/ "o he!e and 0e %ond a &ot o%inte!estin/ peop&e he!e in Bit,oin ,on%e!en,e and 0e!e !ea&&" &oo-in/ %o!0a!d to ma-e ah/e ,han/e in A%/hanistan5 not on&" %o! 0omen *t %o! men a&so. @eah5 &oo-in/ %o!0a!d %o!a *!i/ht %t!e %o! eve!"one a!ond the 0o!&d. ;97

/M: Than- "o so m,h %o! eve!"thin/. ;97

-M: The 0e*sites 0he!e peop&e ,an %ind ot mo!e ;97

arsha: @es5000.$i&mAnne'.,omand 000.omensAnne'.,om. ;97

-M: OK5 $a!sha and o"a5 than- "o so m,h %o! "o! time toda". ;97

arsha /M: Than- "o ve!" m,h %o! havin/ s. Than- "o. ;97

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Ada! B. Le'ine inter'ie% %ith !itry M#rashchi)
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ABL: Im sittin/ he!e this mo!nin/ 0ith +mit!"5 -no0n as assah on&ine. Hes the,ommnit" mana/e!5 !i/ht ;97


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ABL: OK. e /o into ,hat and 0e a!e ne/otiatin/. A!e 0e ta&-in/ a*ot p!i,e o! a!e 0eta&-in/ a*ot &o,ation hat a!e 0e ta&-in/ a*ot ;9?

M: Both. nti& *oth o% "o a/!ee on the &o,ation and the p!i,e5 the!e is /oin/ to *e a*tton the!e 0hi,h sa"s A,,ept O%%e!5 so nti& "o /"s a,ta&&" de,ide5 "o!e %!ee to ta&-

it ot. I% "o dont 0ant to t!ade5 "o 6st hit Stop and its not /oin/ to a%%e,t "o in an"0a". On,e "o /"s do a/!ee5 "o have to hit A,,ept O%%e! and the !eason %o! that is so thatthe!es /oin/ to *e %eed*a,- thats *i&t in *ased on 0hethe! "o a,ta&&" %o&&o0 th!o/h 0iththe t!ade and ho0 %ast "o %o&&o0 th!o/h 0ith it. ;9

ABL: The!es a !eptationa& s"stem *i&t in too. ;9

M: @eah. I% *oth o% "o a,ta&&" a,,ept the o%%e!5 i% "o !ene/e on the o%%e!5 its /oin/ topt a din/ in "o! !eptation s"stem. ;9

ABL: eve a/!eed5 0e ne/otiate and 0e meet p in pe!son. hat happens ;9

M: On,e "o meet p in pe!son5 "o /ive ,ash to the se&&e!5 the se&&e! 0i&& have a ,ash!e,eipt *tton and on,e that happens5 it 0i&& atomati,a&&" t!ans%e! mone" %!om one phone tothe othe! 0ithot needin/ to s0ap Bit,oin add!esses. It a&so has a ne0 %eat!e 0e have ,a&&eda T!ansa,tion Con%iden,e !aph. One o% o! se!ve!s is ,onne,ted to ha&% the Bit,oin nodesand the othe! is ,onne,ted to the othe! ha&% o% the Bit,oin nodes5 and it 0i&& a,ta&&" t!a,- thet!ansa,tion as its /ettin/ *!oad,ast and t!ansmitted th!o/h the 0ho&e net0o!-. On top o%that5 it 0i&& *e -eepin/ t!a,- %o! thin/s &i-e do*&e spends5 nspent inpts5 ma&&ea*i&it" andothe! thin/s5 0hi,h 0i&& a%%e,t the T!ansa,tion Con%iden,e !aph. $o! eve!" nspent otpt5it 0i&& ha&% the Con%iden,e. ;9

ABL: This is an adio sho05 so &ets ta&- a*ot this Con%iden,e !aph %o! a se,ond.Basi,a&&"5 in p!a,ti,e 0hat Ive seen is that this &oo-s &i-e... this is *asi,a&&" a e!o,on%i!mation ,on%i!mation5 !i/ht ;9

M: 3!ett" m,h5 "eah. ;9

ABL: The idea he!e is that 0hen the t!ansa,tion is *!oad,ast *" the pe!son se&&in/ the*it,oin5 "o a!e t!a,-in/ ho0 %a! a!ond the net0o!- it /ets. I% it /ets a&& the 0a" a!ond thenet0o!-5 o! /ets to most o% the net0o!-5 then the ,han,es o% it not *ein/ in,&ded in a *&o,-a!e ve!"5 ve!" &o0. Even tho/h it hasnt a&!ead" *een in,&ded in a *&o,-5 "o have a hi/h

de/!ee o% !e&ative... &i-e so ho0 se,!e is somethin/ &i-e that Is it possi*&e to have st!on/,on%iden,e 0ith e!o ,on%i!mations ;9

M: The Con%iden,e !aph neve! /ets to 988P *e,ase the!e a!e sti&& isses that mi/hthappen and Im not !ea&&" s!e 0hat *t i% the Con%iden,e /ets to GGP5 that means that a

p!ope! %ee 0as in,&ded and p!ett" m,h a&& the net0o!- has hea!d it *" no0. The!es non#spent inpt and its GGP s!e that the t!ansa,tion 0i&& /et in,&ded in the ne't *&o,-. @o,ant eve! /et to 988P *e,ase the!e ,o&d *e thin/s &i-e ,hain %o!-5 o! somethin/5 0he!e"o! t!ansa,tion /ets 0iped ot *t its p!ett" ,&ose to 988P. ;9

ABL: This has *een -ind o% a sti,-in/ point in the spa,e is that its !ea&&" ha!d a &ot o%

peop&e have t!o*&e sin,e the!es no 0a" to... sometimes a Bit,oin *&o,- ,an ta-e 78 minteso! :8 mintes and its sometimes ve!" di%%i,&t to 0ait that &on/ in a !etai& sitation. This


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isnt a &o,a& t!adin/ app&i,ation *t it seems &i-e this has /!eate! imp&i,ations in thatpotentia&&". ;9

M: Eventa&&"5 0e&& in,&de it in the !est o% the app&i,ation as 0e&& and "eah5 Im %ami&ia!0ith that *e,ase Ive done t!ades in pe!son. Sometimes "o have to sit the!e a0-0a!d&" %o!

a*ot an ho! %!om &a,- to ,on%i!m. @eah5 this 0i&& de%inite&" %i' that. Anothe! !ea&&" ni,e%eat!e 0ith this is "o! athenti,ation and !e/ist!ation is done sin/ p!ivate -e" messa/esi/nin/. hen "o asso,iate "o! Bit,oin add!ess to "o! Lo,a& T!ade! a,,ont5 "o dontneed an" pass0o!ds 0ith that. @o athenti,ate sin/ a p!ivate -e" and a&& ,hat *et0een "oand the se! is en,!"pted sin/ "o! !espe,tive p!ivate -e"s. ;9G

ABL: Inte!estin/. ;9G

M: The on&" thin/ 0e 0i&& sto!e is the Bit,oin add!ess asso,iated 0ith it5 0hateve! se!name "o ,hoose and ve!" ,o!se &o,ation to 0ithin one sa!e -i&omete! and "o! t!adehisto!" %o! the %eed*a,- st%%. In a 0a"5 it ,an *e as psedon"mos as Bit,oin itse&%. ;9G

ABL: One o% the %ina& sti,-in/ points he!e is that I noti,ed that "o!e *asi,a&&" ta&-in/a*ot the p!i,e *e%o!e "o a,ta&&" meet in pe!son. As 0eve seen in the &ast ,op&e o%0ee-s5 the p!i,e in Bit,oin ,an *e !ea&&" p!ett" !idi,&os&" vo&ati&e sometimes 0hen it ,omesto these &o,a& dea&s. +o "o have an" 0a" to dea& 0ith &o,a& vo&ati&it" ;9G


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M: A%te! that5 0e!e a&so &oo-in/ into addin/ thin/s &i-e a&t,oins 0hi,h ma" end p *ein/as p&/#ins that "o do0n&oad %o! a &itt&e *it o% e't!a mone"5 and me!,hant options5 and thin/s&i-e that. e!e &oo-in/ to hi!e deve&ope!s !i/ht no0 to -ind o% he&p s ot 0ith this sin,e 0ea!e %o,sin/ mo!e on the H+ 0a&&et side o% it. ;79

ABL: @o! /!op is *ased ot o% Ast!ia ;79

M: Ast!ia5 Qienna. ;79

ABL: @eah. It sonds &i-e "ove /ot some imp!essive %eat!es. I -no0 that one o% theothe! p!o6e,ts that M",e&im has had on the *a,- *!ne! %o! a 0hi&e5 has *een this 0i!e&ess,a!d. Is that sti&& on the ta*&e at a&& ;79


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*siness 0ith a ,ompan" that sha!es "o! va&es. et a 9=P dis,ont 0hen "o pa" 0ithBit,oin. o to*it,oin.eas"+NS.,omand *e s!e to se dis,ont ,ode LTB. ;7:

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-tephanie M#rphy inter'ie% %ith 3eill Miller and onathan 5e'allos

-M: Im Stephanie M!ph" %!om Lets Ta&- Bit,oin and Im he!e at the Inside Bit,oins Ne0@o!- Cit" ,on%e!en,e and Im ta&-in/ 0ith Nei&& Mi&&e! and 1onathan 2eva&&os %!om A&t,oinLa*s. The" a&so sta!ted the %i!st a&t,oin meetp. ent&emen5 0e&,ome to the sho0. ;7:

3M 5: Than- "o. Than-s %o! havin/ s.

-M: A&t,oin La*s. I 0ant to ta&- a*ot that *t %i!st5 te&& me a*ot the a&t,oin meetp that"o sta!ted p. h" a&t,oins ;7:

3M: ene!a&&" spea-in/5 I /ot into Bit,oin *a,- in 7899 as a mine! and I 0as 6st -ind o%inte!ested in it. ;7:

-M: As a mine! ;7:

3M: @eah5 "eah. Not a *i/ time mine!5 no nothin/ &i-e that. As the "ea!s 0ent *" I a,ta&&"didnt hea! a*ot Lite,oin nti& at some point &ast "ea!5 p!o*a*&" a!ond Ap!i&. I 6st /ot%as,inated *" it5 and then I hea!d o% $eathe!,oin and &i-e5 some o% these o&de! ,oins5 3ee!,oinand st%%. I 6st tho/ht that 0as m,h mo!e inte!estin/5 pe!sona&&"5 than Bit,oinsthemse&ves. ;7:


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3M: Im in the!e and I &i-e Bit,oin a &ot. I thin- the te,hno&o/" is amain/ *t it %e&t -ind o%s&o0 pa,e. I -no0 thats ,!a" to sa" *e,ase Bit,oins e't!eme&" %ast pa,e *t ,ompa!ed toa&t,oins and I %e&t &i-e the ,ommnities o% the di%%e!ent a&t,oins 0e!e &i-e ,omin/ ot indi%%e!ent 0a"s. I a&most &i-ed the di%%e!ent attitde5 ma"*e. ;7?

5: +e%inite&". hen 0e sta!ted p the meetp in Chi,a/o5 it sta!ted &ate Septem*e! and*asi,a&&"5 %!om the!e in &ate Septem*e!5 +o/e,oin 0as !e&eased and it ,omp&ete&" ,han/ed the&ands,ape. 3eop&e 0ent %!om this ve!" se!ios ,!"pto,!!en," *&o,-,hain Bit,oin to p&a"%&5Shi*a In meme on a ,oin. I tho/ht it 0as hi&a!ios. I tho/ht it 0as a0esome. A&t,oinsmade that possi*&e. ;7?


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t!eated it as %n. That opened the spa,e %o! so man" di%%e!ent -inds o% peop&e ,omin/ in.;7

-M: hat a&t,oins /ot "o the most e',ited and 0h" Nei&&5 "o said that "o seeinnovation happenin/ in a&t,oins5 0he!eas it doesnt ne,essa!i&" ta-e p&a,e5 at this point5

0ithin Bit,oin. hi,h innovations a!e "o pa!ti,&a!&" e',ited a*ot ;7


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5: I 0o&d a/!ee 0ith Nei&& in the sense that it !ea&&" depends on the t"pe o% ni,he that it%&%i&s. It depends on... I a&0a"s ,a&& it ma!-et demand5 !i/ht C!"pto,!!en,ies5 I thin-5the!e is a ma!-et demand. I 0o&d a,ta&&" a!/e 0ith +o/e,oin. The!e 0as a ma!-etdemand. 3eop&e p!o*a*&" %e&t &i-e it 0as... Bit,oin 0as too se!ios5 the ma!-et 0as /ettin/spammed 0ith a&& these s,!"pt ,oins that the" didnt &i-e and the" didnt *e&ieve in5 so peop&e

mined +o/e,oin. I -no05 I did to *e i!oni, and %nn" and s!e eno/h5 i!oni,a&&" and %nni&"eno/h5 its no0 a se!ios ,!!en,". The 6o-es -ind o% *ein/ p&a"ed on... not even on s...its 6st a0esomeF ;=7

-M: Its 6st a 6o-eF (La/hte!) ;=7

5: @eah. I 0o&dnt even sa" its 6st a 6o-e. Its an evo&vin/ 6o-e. Its /!eat. I thin- itsa0esome and it !ea&&" depends on the ni,he at the time. Thats 0hat I 0o&d sa". ;==

-M: Coo&. hat /oes on at an a&t,oin meetp hat do peop&e ta&- a*ot and do peop&ehave p!o6e,ts that the"!e 0o!-in/ on Is it mo!e 6st a so,ia& -ind o% event ;==

3M: ene!a&&" spea-in/ so %a!5 its 6st &a!/e&" *een dis,ssion. e!e t!"in/ to %o!m a *aseo% so!t o% !e/&a! mem*e!s and 0e do have a %ai! nm*e! at this point. Late!5 in mid 1ne50e!e a,ta&&" hopin/ to do an event 0he!e 0e ,an *!in/ in some o% the devs o! e'te!na&in%&en,es and host a *i/ event. Im s!e 0e&& have to ta&- to "o mo!e a*ot that &ate! on asit /ets ,&ose! and 0e /ive mo!e detai&s to it. Thats so!t o%... 0e!e &oo-in/ to0a!ds

p!omotin/ somethin/ &i-e a mini ,on%e!en,e0o!-shop. ;==

5: The *i/ thin/ is the devs. e 0ant to essentia&&" pt a %a,e to the ,oin. I thin- the*i//est p!o*&em in the a&t,oin ma!-et is t!st. I3O ,oins5 !i/ht @o dont -no0 0hethe! o!not these peop&e a!e /oin/ to ta-e "o! *it,oins honest&". 1st so m,h %ndin/ and so man",han/in/ thin/s5 its ove!0he&min/. e 0ant to !e%ine that and sa" He"5 this pe!son ist!st0o!th"5 the"!e in this ma!-et5 the"ve *i&t this and this is thei! p!od,t5 this is thei!,oin. e 6st 0ant to !e%ine that. ;=:

-M: Have "o eve! tho/ht a*ot ma"*e pttin/ ot o! de%inin/ a set o% *est p!a,ti,es %o!ne0 a&t,oins O!5 a -ind o% vettin/ p!o,ess %o! ne0 a&t,oins to 6st &oo- %o! !ed %&a/s 0henthe" %i!st sta!t *e%o!e peop&e sta!t investin/ in them ;=:

3M: I thin- thats a !ea&&" inte!estin/ thin/. e de%inite&" have o! o0n opinions on that.e tend not to p*&i,ie them5 at &east "et5 *e,ase some o% the ,oins that 0e had ,!iti,isms

a*ot a!e a,ta&&" doin/ p!ett" 0e&&5 at &east %o! no05 o! have done *ette! than 0e o!i/ina&&"tho/ht. $o! e'amp&e5 some ,oins appea! to have a st!on/ &a,- o% deve&ope!s 0hi,h 0e thin-is a !ea&&" *ad thin/ %o! a ,oin and then5 it t!ns ot5 %o! some !eason the ,ommnit"5 thedeve&ope!s ,ome &ate!. I thin- that that is a !ea&&" impo!tant thin/ so !ea&&" time ,an on&" te&&.I dont -no05 I mean its ha!d to !ea&&" pt ot ha!d and %ast /ide&ines5 I /ess. ;=?

5: I 0o&d de%inite&" a/!ee 0ith that5 I mean5 the!es p!oo% o% sta-e5 p!oo% o% 0o!-5 the!esI3O ,oins and the!es s,!"pt ,oin5 R995 SHA 7?. The &ands,ape is ,onstant&" ,han/in/.Honest&"5 to pt a set o% /ide&ines not on&" is it di%%i,&t5 *t it 0o&d 6st *e a &itt&e *ita!!o/ant o% s to pt that ot the!e. I !ea&&" thin- that it depends a/ain5 on the ,ommnit". Itdepends on 0hat the ni,he demand is d!in/ that moment5 0hat the ma!-et demands and the

t"pe o% innovation peop&e psh %o!0a!d. I 0o&d a,ta&&" sa" +o/e,oin has pshed an


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innovation. That innovation is ,ommnit". It de%ined a ,oin th!o/h donations5 and,ommnit"5 and *ein/ t!st0o!th"5 and ni,e. I thin- thats a0esomeF ;=?


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-M: Te&& me a &itt&e *it a*ot A&t,oin La*s5 0hi,h is "o! ,ompan" that "o!e *oth 0o!-in/on to/ethe!. hat is it ;=

-M: Than-s /"s. I !ea&&" app!e,iate "o! time toda". ;:9

3M: Than-s %o! havin/ s. ;:9

5: Than- "o. ;:9

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Ada! B. Le'in inter'ie% %ith Michael Per)lin

MP: e!e pttin/ to/ethe! the C!"pto,!!en," Ce!ti%i,ation Conso!tim. Its a non#p!o%ito!/aniation. Its to ,e!ti%" peop&e 0ith Bit,oin -no0&ed/e so that some*od" 0ho sa"s thatthe" -no0 Bit,oin5 0e 0o&d p!ove that the" a,ta&&" do. eve pt to/ethe! tests %o! a

Bit,oin Lite ,e!ti%i,ation -no0&ed/e points that someone 0ith this ,e!ti%i,ation 0o&d have0o&d *e that5 the" nde!stand the *&o,-,hain5 the" nde!stand 0h" the" need to 0ait %o!,on%i!mations5 the" nde!stand -e" mana/ement5 the" nde!stand *asi, ,!"pto so the" -no00hat a hash is and *asi,a&&"5 a&& the in%o!mation that someone 0o&d need to -no0 to a,,eptBit,oin on *eha&% o% thei! ,ompan". Then5 the!es a deve&ope! spe,i%i, ,e!ti%i,ation. 3eop&e0ith this ,e!ti%i,ation 0o&d *e mo!e a&on/ the &ines o%5 the" -no0 the 3C ,a&&s5 the" ,an

*i&d a t!ansa,tion mana&&"5 the" ,an !ea&&" /et into the nitt" /!itt" o% Bit,oin. ;:7


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ABL: One o% the inte!estin/ pa!ts a*ot Bit,oin5 o% ,o!se5 is that n&i-e man" standa!ds thata!e ot the!e5 Bit,oin is in %&' and Bit,oin is a deve&opin/ thin/. hat do "o in t0o "ea!sIs it /oin/ to *e the same p!o/!am i&& the!e *e additiona& p!o/!ams o% ,e!ti%i,ation that&a"e! on top ;:?

MP: A*so&te&"5 it 0i&& not *e the same p!o/!am. 1st &i-e the ,e!ti%ied a,,ontants and the,e!ti%ied se,!it" p!o%essiona&s5 these %ie&ds a!e ,han/in/ a&& the time. The!e a!e ne0te,hno&o/ies ,omin/ otD the!e a!e ne0 t0ea-s5 the!e a!e ne0 p!o*&ems5 ne0 v&ne!a*i&ities5ne0 thin/s that 0e a&& need to 0o!!" a*ot. Ove! time5 the ,!!i,&m 0i&& *e adapted to ta-eadvanta/e o% ne0 p!o/!ess5 ne0 so%t0a!e and an"thin/ e&se that ,omes a&on/ the 0a". The!e0i&& *e ,ommittees 0ithin C: that 0i&& *e dedi,ated to pdatin/ the ,!!i,&m %o! theCe!ti%ied Bit,oin 3!o%essiona&s ,e!ti%i,ation5 o! %o! the Ce!ti%ied Bit,oin Te,hni,a& E'pe!t,e!ti%i,ation. These ,ommittees 0o!- a&on/side e'istin/ indst!" e'pe!ts. e envision ana&0a"s#pdated ,!!i,&m that 0i&& ens!e that peop&e nde!stand the &atest and /!eatesta*ot Bit,oin. ;:?

ABL: +o "o thin- that the!e is an" di%%e!entiation *et0een /eo/!aph" Is the p!o/!amdi%%e!ent in China than it is in... %o! someone in China than it is %o! someone in the nitedStates A!e "o p&annin/ on se!vi,in/ the inte!nationa& ,ommnit" 0ith this p!od,timmediate&"5 o! a!e "o %o,sin/ on spe,i%i, a!eas ;:

MP: It 0i&& *e /&o*a& a%te! that5 a&tho/h the o!/aniation 0as %i!st %o!med in Canada5 it is/oin/ to *e a /&o*a& non#p!o%it o!/aniation. hat C: 0o&d do is &ist the -no0&ed/e points.@o need to -no0 a*ot this %o! -e" mana/ement. @o need to -no0 a*ot this %o! p!iva,"5&i-e 0h" do "o se di%%e!ent ,han/e add!esses5 and thin/s &i-e that. On,e a&& the -no0&ed/e

points a!e ,!eated5 this ,ommon *od" o% -no0&ed/e ,an *e made avai&a*&e to ed,atin/*odies in s,hoo&s5 nive!sities5 so that the" ,an *i&d thei! o0n ,!!i,&ms that tea,h ea,h o%these -no0&ed/e points5 so that the" ,an ,ove! a&& o% the aspe,ts o% Bit,oin5 o! Ethe!em.;:

ABL: Inte!estin/. This is not somethin/ that "o p&an on administe!in/ spe,i%i,a&&" 0ith thiso!/aniation. This is somethin/ mo!e 0he!e "o p&an on he&pin/ othe! peop&e tea,h thesethin/s and then ,e!ti%"in/ thei! e%%o!ts ;:

ABL: OK5 /!eat. hat havent I as-ed that I sho&d as- *e,ase I %ee& &i-e the!es p!o*a*&"

somethin/ Ive missed ;:

MP: I 0asnt a,ta&&" e'pe,tin/ %o! C: to *e on "o! sho0 "et o! to *e p*&i, -no0&ed/e atthe moment. A%te! this ,on%e!en,e5 thats 0hen 0e!e !ea&&" /oin/ to *e /ettin/ into /ea!.;:

ABL: Its a ,op&e o% 0ee-s ot 0hen 0e!e ta&-in/ no0... and 0e!e ta&-in/ !i/ht *e%o!e theBit,oin +e,ent!a& event5 !athe!5 !i/ht *e%o!e the Bit,oin To!onto event. hat is the time%!ameon this hat is the !o&&ot Ho0 &on/ do "o thin- it 0i&& ta-e %o! s to see the %i!st,e!ti%ied individa&s ;:

MP: O! ,ommittee is a&!ead" 0o!-in/ to *i&d the tests. e have a %e0 hnd!ed estionsa&!ead" made and 0e have the -no0&ed/e domains a&!ead" sepa!ated. Its 6st a matte! o%


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/ivin/ these tests to e'istin/ indst!" e'pe!ts so 0e ,an /et thei! %eed*a,- to ma-e s!e thatthese tests t!&" do sepa!ate the 0heat %!om the ,ha%%. Its one thin/ to sa" that Oh5 I&& as-"o a estion a*ot Bit,oin *t its anothe! thin/ 0hen indst!" e'pe!ts &oo- at it and sa" @es5 this !ea&&" 0o&d sho0 that someone nde!stands Bit,oin. B" the smme! o% this "ea!5!ea&&" *" 1ne5 peop&e 0i&& *e a*&e to 0!ite the tests on&ine. $o! the &a!/e! tests5 it 0i&& have to

*e p!o,to!ed in pe!son5 6st to ma-e s!e "o!e not ,heatin/5 o! 0hateve!. $o! the &a!/e!,e!ti%i,ations5 the" have a ve!" in depth &eve& o% -no0&ed/e5 so it needs to *e at "o!%in/e!tips 0hen "o ta&- a*ot it. ;:

ABL: Mi,hae&5 than- "o ve!" m,h %o! "o! time. ;:

MP: No p!o*&em. Than- "o. ;:

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AE/T:

This is Steven Levine5 C$O o% Lets Ta&- Bit,oin. As someone 0ho pa"s *i&&s 0ith Bit,oin5 I%ind it immense&" satis%"in/ that I ,an pa" o! desi/ne! in Canada i,-&" and easi&". A,op&e o% *tton ,&i,-s and Bit,oin moves ove! mi&es and *o!de!s5 n%ette!ed *" ove!*ea!in/

*!ea,!a,". It is o! /oa&5 he!e at Lets Ta&- Bit,oin5 to ,!eate st!,t!es that a&&o0 Bit,oin5and a&& o% its des,endents5 to th!ive and /!o0 into the sa%e5 %!ee and %ai! invention that Satoshi0!ote a*ot. In m" spa!e time5 Im a&so the 3!esident o% Bit,oin 3a,-a/in/.000.Bit,oin3a,-a/in/.,omma-es it eas" to se "o! ,!!en," o% ,hoi,e to p!,hasemndane p!od,ts. e empo0e! "o to ,han/e the %inan,ia& 0o!&d *" spendin/ "o!Bit,oin. hen "o *" a p!od,t %!om 000.Bit,oin3a,-a/in/.,om0ith Bit,oin5 0e 0i&&send "o a 98P !e*ate o%% o% the a&!ead" &o0 p!i,es. 000.Bit,oin3a,-a/in/.,omis a vi!ta&,ompan". e have no 0a!ehose5 t!,-s o! sa&es peop&e. Come to o! sto!e. Ta-e a &oo-a!ond. Spend some Bit,oin and te&& "o! %!iends. 000.Bit,oin3a,-a/in/.,om. ;:G

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-tephanie M#rphy inter'ie% %ith Mar) Ede

-M: This is Stephanie %o! Lets Ta&- Bit,oin and I am he!e ta&-in/ 0ith a ve!" spe,ia& %!iend.eve /ot Ma!- Ed/e he!e %!om $!eeTa&- Live. Hi Ma!-. ;:G

ME: Hi Stephanie. Than-s %o! havin/ me. ;:G

-M: e&,ome to Lets Ta&- Bit,oin. @o dont have to /et ite as ,&ose to the mi,!ophoneas "o do on $!eeTa&- Live. @o!e &oo-in/ %o! an e',se to stand ,&ose!. Thats o-.(La/hte!) ;:G

ME: M" ,o#host Ian is a sti,-&e! on mi, etiette so "eah5 I have to *e ve!" ,&ose. ;:G


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-M: @es5 indeed. This is *e,ase "o a!e a p!o%essiona& ta&- !adio host. @o host the sho0$!eeTa&- Live and I am a,ta&&" a pa!t o% $!eeTa&- Live. @o and I have *een doin/ theSnda" $!eeTa&- Live sho0 %o!... ;?8

ME: Th!ee "ea!s. ;?8

-M: .../oin/ on th!ee "ea!s no0. @eah. ;?8

ME: Somethin/ &i-e that5 "eah. @o a,ta&&" 0e!e doin/ the Snda" sho0 *e%o!e I 0asdoin/ the Snda" sho0. The Snda" sho0 e'isted %o!5 I thin- ma"*e5 a "ea! and a ha&%

*e%o!e that as an on&ine on&" thin/. hen 0e de,ided to s0ipe the Snda" sho0 that had*een ,!eated *" some othe! a,tivists in the a!ea5 I too- "o a&on/. ;?8

-M: @es. Im /&ad I 0ent a&on/ %o! the !ide *e,ase its *een !ea&&" %n. $!eeTa&- Live is anationa&&" s"ndi,ated sho05 &i-e 0e said. Its *een on the ai! %o! ten "ea!s5 ove! ten "ea!s.;?8

ME: @eah5 0e!e on 9:8 !adio stations a!ond the ,ont!". ;?8

-M: Mhmm. @o a&so have a pop&a! pod,ast and the 0e*site is000.$!eeTa&-Live.,omi%an"one 0ants to ,he,- that ot. ;?8

ME: Thats !i/ht and 0e do an open &ines ,!!ent events p!o/!am that has a &i*e!t" theme toit. ;?8

-M: @eah5 thats the thin/ a*ot $!eeTa&- Live. 3eop&e ,an ,a&& in a*ot an"thin/. Itsp!ima!i&" a ,a&& in sho0. ;?8


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has %ai&ed p to this point. The!es a /o&d ,!edit ,a!d and "o ,an spend /o&d &i-e "o!espendin/ ,ash. ;?7

-M: Oh "eah. I% "ove *een a &i*e!ta!ian %o! a 0hi&e5 "ove seen it a&& # E#/o&d peop&et!"in/ to se si&ve! to *" a sand0i,h at 3o!,$est5 the 0ho&e shti,-. ;?7

ME: @es5 e'a,t&". Its a&0a"s ,omp&i,ated and ,onvo&ted *t I sppo!t a&te!native,!!en,ies 988P. I &istened to him and I te&& him I te&& "o 0hat. e have a pod,astadien,e5 a &a!/e pod,ast adien,e that 0o&d p!o*a*&" *e inte!ested in this. I% "o 0ant todo some ads5 I&& se&& "o some pod,ast ads5 &o0 p!i,e %o! "o! ma/i, inte!net mone". Hea,ta&&" neve! too- me p on this. ;?=

-M: The &o05 &o0 p!i,e o% 985888 *it,oins %o! a spot5 !i/ht ;?=

ME: The" 0e!e 8.7 a pie,e. He didnt ta-e me p on that o%%e! to *" pod,ast ads at thetime. He did5 ho0eve!5 as- me to pa" %o! his &n,h and then he 0o&d pa" me *a,- in

*it,oins. I /ot5 I thin-5 some0he!e &i-e =#:8 *it,oins %o! his mea&. Thats a p!ett" /oodmea& no0 at *it,oins at ?885 o! 0hateve! its at. Ni,e nm*e!s. e ta&-ed a*ot it on ai!.Thats o! 6o*. e &i-e a&te!native ,!!en,ies and o*vios&"5 0e have a te,h savv" adien,eand one o% o! &istene!s5 0hos a&so an adve!tise!5 0hos a&so an Amp&i%ie!5 one o% these /"s5his names o/e! Qe!. I% "o -no0 an"thin/ a*ot the Bit,oin sphe!e5 "o -no0 that this isBit,oin 1ess. He hea!s a*ot Bit,oin that ni/ht5 /ets !ea&&" e',ited5 sta!ts !esea!,hin/ and a%e0 months &ate!5 Bit,oin 1ess sa"s to me that5 essentia&&" He"5 "o -no0 that ,ash that I

pa" "o on a month&" *asis %o! adve!tisin/ Thats /oin/ to t!n into *it,oins. No05 o/e!Qe! is the ni,est pe!son "o!e eve! /oin/ to meet *t he t!ned into a /an/ste! that moment.He"5 this is 0hats /oin/ to happen5 !i/ht (La/hte!) It 0as amain/. Im &i-e OK. I 0asa &itt&e ns!e i% this 0as /oin/ to *e a hit in adve!tisin/ do&&a!s *t than- /oodness5 he did it.He eased s in. It 0as a &itt&e *it... a pa!tia& and then the %&& thin/ ma"*e a "ea! &ate!. That0as ve!" /ood %o! s o*vios&". I% hes Bit,oin 1ess5 that ma-es me Bit,oin 1ohn theBaptist. (La/hte!) ;?:

-M: (La/hte!) I &ove it. I ,ant *e&ieve I have Bit,oin 1ohn the Baptist on the sho0 0ithme. ;?:

ME: @ep. M" head 0i&& *e se!ved p on a p&atte! at some time in the nea! %t!e.(La/hte!) On,e the $ed is a,ta&&" d"in/ in its death th!oes5 thats 0hen the"&& do it.(La/hte!) ;?:


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-M: 1st as &i-e an inte!net host and a %i&& in host sometimes5 as I 0as sta!tin/ ot on m"pod,astin/ ,a!ee!. I 0as &istenin/ to the sho0 dai&" and I hea!d "o ta&-in/ a*ot *it,oinsand %o! a 0hi&e5 I 0as &i-e Hmmm5 this sonds !ea&&" inte!estin/ *t Im not !ea&&" s!ea*ot this. ;??

ME: The" 0e!e ha!d to /et *a,- then too. It 0asnt eas" to /et *it,oins. ;??

-M: E'a,t&". I 0as thin-in/ a*ot e&&5 ma"*e I sho&d /et some *it,oins *t then "ohad to /o on Mto' and "o had to send them mone". ;??

ME: The" 0anted a po0e! *i&& %!om "o! hose. The" 0anted a&& -inds o%... photo,op" "o!I+ and send it to s. A!e "o -iddin/ me I dont -no0 happens 0hen "o do that. Idneve! e',han/ed that 0a" on Mto' and I /ess its /ood that I sta"ed a0a" %!om Mto'most&". ;?

-M: @eah5 that mi/ht have *een sma!t. (La/hte!) At the time5 the!e 0e!e a &ot o% peop&e

0ho 0e!e pa!t o% the &i*e!ta!ian ,ommnit". e &ive in Ne0 Hampshi!e and the!e a!e a &ot o%peop&e 0ho moved to Ne0 Hampshi!e %o! the $!ee State p!o6e,t and o! so,ia& ,i!,&es.Li*e!ta!ians &ove to *&o/. The" &ove to have pod,asts and the" &ove to do ,!eative thin/s andso the!e 0e!e &ots o% peop&e5 at the time *a,- in 7899 I 0ant to sa"5 0ho had pod,asts and

*&o/s5 and sto!es5 and on&ine *sinesses and the" 0e!e sta!tin/ to ta-e *it,oins %o! tips.;?

ME: In Ne0 Hampshi!e5 Bit,oin is !ea&&" ite *i/5 at &east in the ,ommnities that I... the,i!,&es that I !n in. As a matte! o% %a,t5 0hen 0e sa0 Ove!sto,-.,om s0it,hed to Bit,oin5

Ne0 Hampshi!e 0as the nm*e! one p&a,e in the nited States5 at &east on a map I sa05 thatsent *it,oins in and its indi,ative o% ho0 the!es a &ot o% &inea/e o% Bit,oin /oin/ on in Ne0Hampshi!e. $o! instan,e5 *a,- in I thin- 78995 I *o/ht a sand0i,h 0ith a Casas,is ,oin5the ones that had the *ad mintin/ on it. ;?

-M: Oh5 "o mean the ones that a!e 0o!th &i-e 785888 on E*a" ;?

ME: @eah5 those thin/s. I *o/ht a sand0i,h 0ith one o% those and /ot some ,han/e.(La/hte!) $!om Mand!i-5 eo!/es $avo!ite Ba-&ava. This is ho0 the ,ommnit" 0o!-s I

*" and se&&. 3eop&e 0o!- %o! me a&& smme! &on/ ,ttin/ 0ood and movin/ 0ood on m"%a!m %o! *it,oins. ;?

-M: @es. ;?

ME: I neve! pa" them ,ash. The!e a!e peop&e... 0e!e *"in/5 0e!e se&&in/ in *it,oins.;?

-M: e 0e!e doin/ this in 7899 and 7897. This 0as mo!e than t0o "ea!s a/o. e!e at thisBit,oin ,on%e!en,e !i/ht no05 0e!e at the Inside Bit,oins ,on%e!en,e in Ne0 @o!- *t this is0hat I 0ant peop&e to /et is that5 the!e 0as a vi*!ant5 !ea& Bit,oin e,onom" in Ne0Hampshi!e amon/ $!ee State!s 0hen *it,oins 0e!e 8.7 to *e&o0 98. ;?


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-M: ...and *a-&ava5 "eah. ;?

ME: ...and some ,hi,-ens5 *a-&ava and 0e* hostin/ se!vi,es. Thats a&& "o ,o&d do 0iththem the!e *t 0e 0e!e sin/ them and e',han/in/ them *e,ase the" 0e!e via*&e at that

point. I 0as sin/ Bit,oin Spinne!5 0hi,h I dont even -no0 i% that thin/ e'ists an"mo!e.

;?

-M: Oh /osh5 me too. @eah5 I !emem*e! Bit,oin Spinne!. ;?

ME: @o didnt 0ant to &ose "o! phone the!e. (La/hte!) The *it,oins 0o&d *e on thephone and o/e! Qe! 0as sho0in/ peop&e ho0 to do0n&oad Bit,oin Spinne!. ;?

-M: emem*e! the T ,&ient e ,o&d do0n&oad the Bit,oin T ,&ient and it too-... eventhen5 it too- %o!eve! to do0n&oad the *&o,-,hain. Ah5 memo!ies. ;?

ME: I sti&& -eep the T ,&ient /oin/ on a ,ompte!. I someho0 %ee& &i-e Im he&pin/ the

inte!0e*s. (La/hte!). I dont -no0 e'a,t&". Its a &itt&e %aith#*ased. ;?

-M: (La/hte!) I do it too *e,ase it !ns A!mo!"5 so i% "o 0ant to !n A!mo!". ;?

ME: A!mo!" has a &a"ove! %o! that5 !i/ht ;?

-M: @eah. ;?

ME: The"!e he!e5 !i/ht do0n the 0a" the!e. ;?

-M: @eah5 a*so&te&". These 0e!e the da"s5 !i/ht e 0e!e sin/ Casas,is ,oins5 0e 0e!esin/ Bit,oin Spinne!5 &i-e "o said the Bit,oin T ,&ient5 and peop&e 0e!e 6st pastin/ pBit,oin add!esses on thei! *&o/s and /ettin/ tips. The" 0e!e /ettin/ ? *it,oin5 98 *it,oin tips.;?G

ME: $!eeTa&- Live has /otten !athe!... *a,- in the da"5 !athe! &a!/e Bit,oin tips and the!e it0as... 6st sittin/ the!e ,o&&e,tin/ tips. 3eop&e 0e!e sendin/ them in. ;?G

-M: e had anothe! %!iend 0ho 0as doin/ ,am 0o!-5 *asi,a&&" %o! Bit,oin5 and the!e 0e!epeop&e postin/ pi,t!es o% themse&ves on&ine to /et *it,oins5 !i/ht ;?G

ME: Id do that i% an"*od" 0o&d pa" *t I mean its not /oin/ to he&p ot. ;?G

-M: @o!e /oin/ to have to /et them to pa" "o to pt "o! ,&othes *a,- on. (La/hte!);?G

ME: i/ht5 thin/s &i-e that. The ,&iente&e that 0o&d *e pa"in/ me 0o&dnt *e ne,essa!i&"the one that Id *e 0antin/ to pa" me. Its !ea&&" di%%i,&t to /et "on/5 *eati%& 0omen to

pa" "o to ta-e "o! ,&othes o%%. Its 6st not /oin/ to happen. ;?G

-M: Thats 0h" "o 6st have to p!etend. ;?G

ME: @o!e !i/ht5 6st p!etend. (La/hte!) @eah5 that 0o&dnt 0o!- ot. ;?G


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-M: The thin/s that peop&e 0e!e doin/ 0ith Bit,oin *a,- seve!a& "ea!s a/o5 at this point.hen I &oo- *a,- on them no05 I %ee& !ea&&" hono!ed to have *een a pa!t o% that *e/innin/ o%the p!a,ti,a& se ,ases %o! Bit,oin5 in Ne0 Hampshi!e. ;?G


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ME: @es. ;9


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-M: Bit,oins a!e sti&& a %!eent topi, o% ,onve!sation on $!eeTa&- Live. ;9

Let's Talk Bitcoin, episode 108, "The People and Projects"

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