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CAN GOD BE IMMORAL?CAN GOD BE IMMORAL?

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An Inherent ContradictionAn Inherent Contradiction

God – theGod – the all-goodall-good supreme beingsupreme being

Morait! – good beha"iorMorait! – good beha"ior

#o$ then can God be immora?#o$ then can God be immora?

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Morait! is MutabeMorait! is Mutabe

Non%"ioence –Non%"ioence –

&uppose a person pedged to non%&uppose a person pedged to non%"ioence sees a $oman being"ioence sees a $oman being

abused'abused'

What is morality?What is morality?

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Morait! is MutabeMorait! is Mutabe

&uppose a gang o( thie"es brea)s into&uppose a gang o( thie"es brea)s into

!our $eath! (riend*s house $hie!our $eath! (riend*s house $hie

!ou are there' #e hides in a coset'!ou are there' #e hides in a coset'

And !ou are a"o$ed! truth(u' I( theAnd !ou are a"o$ed! truth(u' I( the

thie"es as) !ou+ ,-here is !ourthie"es as) !ou+ ,-here is !our

(riend?.(riend?.

What is morality for you?What is morality for you?

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Morait! is MutabeMorait! is Mutabe

&uppose !ou are a doctor and a patient&uppose !ou are a doctor and a patienthas got a in(ected imb' I( it is not cut+ hehas got a in(ected imb' I( it is not cut+ he$i die' /our dut! is to protect the$i die' /our dut! is to protect the

patient and !et !ou ha"e to cut his imb'patient and !et !ou ha"e to cut his imb'

Is it immoral?Is it immoral?

 

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Morait! is mutabeMorait! is mutabe

&uppose !ou are a parent and !our&uppose !ou are a parent and !our

chid is not read! to ta)e thechid is not read! to ta)e the

medicine' /ou gi"e it to him in amedicine' /ou gi"e it to him in a

s$eetba and assure him+ ,0here*ss$eetba and assure him+ ,0here*s

no medicine in it'.no medicine in it'.

Is it immoral?Is it immoral?

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A 1uestionA 1uestion

I( $e ourse"es cannot cear! decideI( $e ourse"es cannot cear! decide

or strict! adhere to the same moraor strict! adhere to the same mora

principes a the time+ but need toprincipes a the time+ but need to

use discrimination+ ho$ can $e 2udgeuse discrimination+ ho$ can $e 2udge

God*s actions through our moraGod*s actions through our mora

spectaces $ithout discrimination?spectaces $ithout discrimination?

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Morait! is i)e a torchight+Morait! is i)e a torchight+

 3rishna is i)e the sun3rishna is i)e the sun

-e ha"e se4sh desires and so $e need-e ha"e se4sh desires and so $e need

mora codes so as to not (a pre! tomora codes so as to not (a pre! to

them'them'

3rishna is se5ess o"e personi4ed63rishna is se5ess o"e personi4ed6

-hate"er #e does is moti"ated on!-hate"er #e does is moti"ated on!

b! the desire to bene4t e"er!one' Asb! the desire to bene4t e"er!one' As

#e can ne"er come under the s$a! o(#e can ne"er come under the s$a! o(se4sh desires+ #e does not need tose4sh desires+ #e does not need to

(oo$ mora codes'(oo$ mora codes'

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Is morait! the goa o( i(e?Is morait! the goa o( i(e?

Mora codes are i)e tra7c ruesMora codes are i)e tra7c rues

 0he purpose o( tra"eing is not to 0he purpose o( tra"eing is not to

(oo$ the tra7c rues+ but to reach(oo$ the tra7c rues+ but to reach

the destination' 0he tra7c rues hepthe destination' 0he tra7c rues hep

us to smooth! and sa(e! reach ourus to smooth! and sa(e! reach our

destinationdestination

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Is morait! the goa o( i(e?Is morait! the goa o( i(e?

&imiar! morait! heps us to proceed&imiar! morait! heps us to proceed

smooth! and sa(e! in the 2ourne! o(smooth! and sa(e! in the 2ourne! o(

i(e' But the goa o( i(e is not to bei(e' But the goa o( i(e is not to be

mora+ but to become a pure de"oteemora+ but to become a pure de"otee

o( 3rishna'o( 3rishna'

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Is morait! the goa o( i(e?Is morait! the goa o( i(e?

Morait! is in goodness and $i )eep us inMorait! is in goodness and $i )eep us inthe materia $ord'the materia $ord'

De"otion is in pure goodness and $i ta)eDe"otion is in pure goodness and $i ta)e

us bac) to Godhead'us bac) to Godhead'

A pure de"otee shoud sacri4ce e"er!thingA pure de"otee shoud sacri4ce e"er!thing(or 3rishna – e"en morait!(or 3rishna – e"en morait!

Eg' Mahara2 /udhishthira –Eg' Mahara2 /udhishthira –

,,ash"atthama hato hate naro "a )un2aroash"atthama hato hate naro "a )un2aro"a."a.

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-hat is 0ruth?-hat is 0ruth?

 0ruth is not 0ruth is not

 spea)ing a reati"e truth $hie i"ingspea)ing a reati"e truth $hie i"ing

on the pat(orm o( untruth+on the pat(orm o( untruth+

 0ruth is 0ruth is

  spea)ing that $hich $i harmoni8e usspea)ing that $hich $i harmoni8e us$ith the Absoute 0ruth'$ith the Absoute 0ruth'

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Did 3rishna act immora!?Did 3rishna act immora!?

Ranchora 3rishna ran a$a! (romRanchora 3rishna ran a$a! (rom

 9arasandha 9arasandha

But 3rishna had aread! de(eated himBut 3rishna had aread! de(eated him

singe%handed! :; timessinge%handed! :; times

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Did 3rishna act immora!?Did 3rishna act immora!?

3rishna danced $ith the gopis3rishna danced $ith the gopis

3rishna is the o$ner o( e"er!thing and3rishna is the o$ner o( e"er!thing andso is not en2o!ing an!thing outside o(so is not en2o!ing an!thing outside o(

#imse('#imse('

Eg' #orse sa"ed (rom 4re (ear(u o( redEg' #orse sa"ed (rom 4re (ear(u o( red

shedshed

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#o$ can an immora God ma)e#o$ can an immora God ma)e

#is de"otees mora?#is de"otees mora?

&B <c+ ,De"otees $ho remember Lord&B <c+ ,De"otees $ho remember Lord

3rishna in the core o( their hearts3rishna in the core o( their hearts

become (ree (rom a ust! desires'become (ree (rom a ust! desires'

#o$ can that Lord $hose memor!#o$ can that Lord $hose memor!puri4es others o( ust #imse( e"erpuri4es others o( ust #imse( e"er

act ust(u!?act ust(u!?

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Did 3rishna act immora!?Did 3rishna act immora!?

3rishna tod Ar2una to )i 3arna $hen3rishna tod Ar2una to )i 3arna $hen

he $as unpreparedhe $as unprepared

&atho sath!am&atho sath!am

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&houd God not act&houd God not act

e=empari!?e=empari!? 0he Lord as Ramachandra e=hibited idea 0he Lord as Ramachandra e=hibited idea

beha"ior+ to teach us ho$ to beha"e'beha"ior+ to teach us ho$ to beha"e'

But as Lord 3rishna #e $ants to teach usBut as Lord 3rishna #e $ants to teach us

principes higher than mundaneprincipes higher than mundanemorait! – (u surrender'morait! – (u surrender'

BG >' dharma samsthapanartha!a@BG >' dharma samsthapanartha!a@

s sar"a%dharman parit!a2!a@s sar"a%dharman parit!a2!a@

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Anu)arana "s AnusaranaAnu)arana "s Anusarana

&B+ ,I( ordinar! sous imitate great&B+ ,I( ordinar! sous imitate great

sous+ the! $i be ruined' Eg' Lordsous+ the! $i be ruined' Eg' Lord

&hi"a drin)s bhanga+ but he aso&hi"a drin)s bhanga+ but he aso

drin)s haahaa poison'.drin)s haahaa poison'.

Eg' 3rishna i(ted Go"ardhan hi be(oreEg' 3rishna i(ted Go"ardhan hi be(ore

#e per(ormed rasa%ia'#e per(ormed rasa%ia'

or great sous+ $e shoud (oo$ theiror great sous+ $e shoud (oo$ their

instructions+ not imitate their actions'instructions+ not imitate their actions'

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 0he Last -ord 0he Last -ord

Norma! the Lord and #is de"oteesNorma! the Lord and #is de"otees

act mora!' And that is the e=ampeact mora!' And that is the e=ampe

$e shoud (oo$'$e shoud (oo$'

And $hen 0he! act seeming!And $hen 0he! act seeming!

immora!+ $e shoud earn and app!immora!+ $e shoud earn and app!

the principes taught thereo( and notthe principes taught thereo( and not

imitate or uestion their actions'imitate or uestion their actions'