Archive Session 89

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ukedchat Archive 15 Mar 2012Hosted by @jamesdradburn

What should be taught to the nextgeneration of trainee teachers?

20:00:01 @ukedchatIt's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn hosting. Topic: 'What should betaught to the next generation of trainee teachers?'

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20:00:18 @thosethatcan @Teaching_LMP: Ok I'm ready. Let's go #ukedchat


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20:03:05 @oldandrewuk@claireothacehe #ukedchat "Positive behaviour management"? Isn't that a way ofsaying "appeasement"?

20:03:06 @leahybenRT @davidhunter: #ukedchat my take:whats the point in teaching facts?those facts areavailable at everyone's fingertips.teach how to get there and scrutinise

20:03:10 @nickotkdIV#ukedchat currently students alway impress me on twitter with their knowledge oftechnology. Even three years a go this was never this big

20:03:22 @HilaryNunns The next generation will understand the 21st century students! Pedagogy andclassroom management #ukedchat

20:03:22 @syded06@davidhunter absolutely they now need the skills to facilitate rather than delivercontent #ukedchat

20:03:22 @nightzookeeper@claireothacehe This isn't an easy skill to develop. How were you taught? Anyone gotgood behaviour management tips tonight? #ukedchat

20:03:23 @ICTmagicTomorrow's teachers need to be adaptable, innovative, creative to deal with an everchanging world to pass these skills to pupils. #ukedchat

20:03:36 @Teaching_LMPRT @HilaryNunns: The next generation will understand the 21st century students!Pedagogy and classroom management #ukedchat

20:03:53 @davidhunter@joanne_rich @jamesdradburn #ukedchat I would agree,although perhaps teachertrainees should already be resilient.

20:03:55 @oldandrewuk

@davidhunter #ukedchat The point of teaching facts is that it is better than a) teaching

lies or b) teaching nothing.

20:04:11 @claireothacehe#ukedchat also, an awareness of the super speedily changing face of education andhow children learn - access to information and harnessing

20:04:21 @nickotkdIV @GeogJo time to reflect on these? #ukedchat

20:04:22 @DepJo#ukedchat so many nqts have no knowledge of how to level or assess.They don'tknow how to creatively plan unit of work 2 meet needs of class

20:04:24 @Teaching_LMPWe need to understand that the classroom won't look the same in a few years & forme, my subject won't either (english) #ukedchat

20:04:31 @oldandrewuk@ICTmagic #ukedchat Who says it's an "everchanging world"? Plenty of things staythe same.

20:04:34 @DKeano1985 Subject knowledge and behaviour management#ukedchat

20:04:50 @nightzookeeper @Teaching_LMP Ah I see, are you on placement at the minute? How much time haveyou had in schools so far this year? #ukedchat

20:04:53 @mikeatedji#ukedchat Missing from many current teacher training courses is confidence in how todeal with discriminatory behaviour/statements

20:04:55 @Mrs_Cosgrove#ukedchat how to use your voice. I remember loosing my voice in 1st 2wks of job. It'sthe best tool we have & we're not shown how to use it

20:05:07 @joanne_rich@davidhunter @jamesdradburn #ukedchat Perhaps they should but the number whodrop out within 5 years would suggest otherwise

20:05:08 @nickotkdIV#ukedchat time to make mistakes (should carry on through out profession.experiementing with teaching!

20:05:15 @jamesdradburn@DepJo at uni we don't get taught directly how to assess as they believe its theschools job #ukedchat

20:05:26 @emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe No. it's a way of staying sane.#ukedchat

20:05:33 @davidhunter@oldandrewuk think of life as facts and skills.facts are easy to get hold of.what is ourtime better spent teaching? #ukedchat

20:05:37 @Teaching_LMP@Mrs_Cosgrove We had voice training at uni during our first couple of weeks. It hasbeen really useful #ukedchat

20:05:43 @MattFothergill@jamesdradburn Poor communication skills when dealing with parents can make orbreak an NQT #ukedchat

20:05:59 @DepJo#ukedchat they're not taught how to understand pitch or even lots of numeracymethods like chunking.means they can't get started on teaching

20:05:59 @Teaching_LMPRT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Missing from many current teacher training courses isconfidence in how to deal with discriminatory behaviour/statements

20:06:02 @oldandrewuk@syded06 @davidhunter #ukedchat People have been claiming that since early 20thcentury. It's not true. Ignorance is still a problem.

20:06:07 @MariamAlhashmi How do we prioritize between all of these subjects for training when the time is limited?#ukedchat

20:06:25 @oldandrewuk RT @MattFothergill: How to communicate with parents. Hugely important area that

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needs to be covered #ukedchat

20:06:26 @anhalfRT @ukedchat: Just 15 minutes until #ukedchat about 'What should be taught to thenext generation of trainee teachers?' with @jamesdradburn as host.

20:06:34 @jamesdradburn@joanne_rich @davidhunter definitely! though doing a 4 year BEd course definatelyhelps with resilience #ukedchat

20:06:43 @nickotkdIV #ukedchat What subjects should now be taught? #ukedchat

20:06:44 @ICTwitz #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected!

20:06:44 @emmaannhardyRT @MattFothergill: @jamesdradburn Poor communication skills when dealing withparents can make or break an NQT #ukedchat

20:06:56 @Kezmerrelda#ukedchat nqt I'm working with said was not taught anything about teaching phonics,yet this is a key part of how we teach right now

20:06:59 @nightzookeeper@DepJo Should we spend the time teaching nqts assessment systems that areconstantly changing? #ukedchat

20:07:03 @joanne_rich#ukedchat And at Primary level how to work with, and manage, TA's is a skill manyseem to struggle with

20:07:03 @ukedchatReminder of #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation of traineeteachers?

20:07:06 @nickotkdIV RT @ICTwitz: #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected!

20:07:09 @bramleyapplecc To know what pedagogy underpins their style, what theoretical models challenge andinspires them! To know who they are! #ukedchat

20:07:13 @mikeatedji @MariamAlhashmi Spend less time on Maths - more time on citizenship?... #ukedchat

20:07:19 @oldandrewuk@BehaviourA #ukedchat What "underlying causes"? The doctrine of original sin? Theevolution of human nature?

20:07:19 @syded06 I wonder how 'up to speed' the institutions are with developing pedagogy. #ukedchat

20:07:25 @DJTom3RT @ukedchat: Reminder of #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the nextgeneration of trainee teachers?

20:07:28 @nickotkdIV @joanne_rich how does one teach that? #ukedchat

20:07:28 @Teaching_LMP@nightzookeeper We have 120 days over the two placements and I am a month intoplacement two atm #ukedchat

20:07:31 @davidhunter@joanne_rich @jamesdradburn I contend that recruitment criteria too heavily favoursTAs.doesnt encourage innovation or resilience #ukedchat

20:07:31 @mberry @ICTwitz curriculum design is going to become important #ukedchat

20:07:32 @jamesdradburnkind of leadin onto: what would you want to change if you looked back at your owncourse? #ukedchat

20:07:32 @oldandrewukRT @DepJo: #ukedchat trainee teachers need subject knowledge of how to teach realthings. Experience of planning & teaching guided reading/phonics etc

20:07:44 @emmaannhardyRT @joanne_rich: #ukedchat And at Primary level how to work with, and manage,TA's is a skill many seem to struggle with

20:07:45 @HaudIgnotaRT @oldandrewuk: @syded06 @davidhunter #ukedchat People have been claimingthat since early 20th century. It's not true. Ignorance is still a problem.

20:07:46 @anhalfRT @ICTwitz #ukedchat Pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy! Hugely neglected! >> andthat your subject is less important than holistic development

20:12:32 @joanne_rich @HilaryNunns Absolutely agree - more training for SEN is essential #ukedchat

20:12:33 @nickotkdIV @emmaannhardy @PeterSpencer88 a good knowledge of learning styles #ukedchat

20:12:34 @jamesdradburn@IsobelFeaver @mikeatedji all depends on the support system at the establishment ofstudy #ukedchat

20:12:39 @lankyflamingo #ukedchat they should learn how to teach how to learn. #learningtolearn20:12:44 @DJTom3

@ICTmagic yeah i would agree with that look at some of the people who won teachingawards. most of them were creative. #ukedchat

20:12:47 @sue25c#ukedchat behaviour management -no confrontation and always give a choice outwithinreason win win with no loss of face on both parts

20:12:47 @DKeano1985 RT @katiejoners: #ukedchat how to get a work life balance!!

20:12:50 @cherrylkdTime management skills. Some panic and overwork and don't spend time developingskills #ukedchat

20:12:59 @nickotkdIVRT @IsobelFeaver: #ukedchat They should not be afraid to fail and / or ask forsupport when needed. Nobody's perfect first time round.

20:13:01 @nightzookeeper@emmaannhardy @depjo I would agree, would you teach a variety of assessmentmethods during degree as schools tend to use various? #ukedchat

20:13:02 @emmaannhardy @katiejoners still tying to figure that one out! :) #ukedchat

20:13:09 @eslweb @joanne_rich @HilaryNunns That's very true... How to teach SENs. My PGCE coursewas very good at that. #ukedchat

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20:13:12 @DepJo@joanne_rich #ukedchat agree. Some get bashed down by a more forceful ta & don'tget things taught the way they want to

20:13:12 @GlynRogers#ukedchat many students dont have the energy for teaching as they're bogged downwith academic assignments. Focus should be in classroom.

20:13:14 @GeographyCarrie@sue25c Agree, there needs to be far more training on behaviour management#ukedchat

20:13:14 @jamesdradburn RT @DJTom3: @ICTmagic yeah i would agree with that look at some of the peoplewho won teaching awards. most of them were creative. #ukedchat

20:13:17 @claireothacehe@ICTwitz @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king #ukedchat and English tests too - grammardefinitely! I didn't understand complex sentences before!

20:13:20 @Teaching_LMPITTs need to be taught that they are still making a difference. It will help on the colddark lesson planning nights #ukedchat

20:13:32 @TalkNQT#ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of different roles in a school tosee where I want my career to go.

20:13:33 @sarahepeel #ukedchat Sociology.

20:13:38 @nickotkdIV @OmarKettlewell more important then English and Maths #ukedchat

20:13:40 @DepJo @emmaannhardy @kezmerrelda #ukedchat all across England

20:13:43 @syded06 @IsobelFeaver never perfect but we need to keep trying #ukedchat

20:13:47 @LeeDonaghy .@ukedchat new teachers need to be taught to explicitly address the languagedemands of their subjects #ukedchat

20:13:47 @AnnaBakerJonesRT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for newteachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat

20:14:01 @nickotkdIVRT @TalkNQT: #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have some shadowing of differentroles in a school to see where I want my career to go.

20:14:03 @oldandrewuk@super_sixfive #ukedchat Have you seen some of the research into emotionalintelligence? It correlates with poor behaviour.

20:14:07 @emmaannhardy@nightzookeeper @depjo I would focus on the ones used by the majority of schoolsand those 'recommended' by the govt. #ukedchat

20:14:14 @anhalfRT @DKeano1985 RT @katiejoners: #ukedchat how to get a work life balance!!


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20:15:04 @oldandrewuk#ukedchat New teachers need to know the basic facts of psychology, i.e. the role ofknowledge and how to spot snake oil.

20:15:06 @eslweb#ukedchat My worry about school's based training is that you don't get the break toreflect on your teaching practice.

20:15:15 @Teaching_LMPRT @StuartMaginnis: #ukedchat get the basics right. Building relationships priority,developing subject knowledge, develop pedagogy.

20:15:17 @mberry @jamesdradburn Good for them. APP's a bit pants, IMHO. *Not* to be confused withAfL. @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @depjo #ukedchat

20:15:21 @KateDigitalMe#ukedchat met many trainee teachers today @Edshow2012 who were interested insocial media and esafety. Is this on the teaching courses?

20:15:24 @katiejoners@anhalf @dkeano1985 haha I know?! I worked until I went to bed last night?!#ukedchat #depressing

20:15:25 @BenRogersOVA@nightzookeeper I agree. Assessment varies so much (and some is better thanothers). Students need a tool kit #ukedchat

20:15:25 @GeographyCarrie@mikeatedji Yes, but needs to be backed up at uni, which I certainly didn't haveenough of! #ukedchat

20:15:26 @emmaannhardyRT @GeographyCarrie: @sue25c Agree, there needs to be far more training onbehaviour management #ukedchat

20:15:29 @nickotkdIV @PeterSpencer88 @emmaannhardy more time in schools? #ukedchat

20:15:30 @iampatricia #ukedchat Does this include FE teachers?

20:15:32 @jamesdradburn@GlynRogers Paperwork it a nightmare. Luckily here there is no lap over forassignments and placement #ukedchat

20:15:34 @nightzookeeper@jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @depjo Yes I don't remember doing a lot ofassessment during my training. #ukedchat

20:15:38 @TalkNQTHow to chill out and get away from school would be a good thing to learn at times!#ukedchat

20:15:38 @PCampbell91 #ukedchat - change the term ITT. You cannot 'train' to be a teacher. (1/4)

20:15:38 @PCampbell91 #ukedchat - change the term ITT. You cannot 'train' to be a teacher. (1/4)

20:15:41 @MissPressie91#Ukedchat So where did teachers study and what do you think your course could havedone better or did well!?

20:15:42 @ICTwitz@GlynRogers But you need a deep understanding before you get in the classroom!!!

#ukedchat

20:15:43 @BenRogersOVART @anhalf: Longer induction also...2nd and 3rd yr teachers still need supportin#ukedchat (time, )

20:15:46 @PCampbell91#ukedchat (2/4) Simple methodology only becomes pedagogy when it has a clearrationale and a theoretical underpinning

20:15:53 @PCampbell91#ukedchat (3/4) which is only offered by an extensive and thorough inital teachereducation that

20:15:54 @BehaviourA#ukedchat Effective formative assessment/ individualised learning programmesincreasingly necessary

20:15:56 @jamesdradburn @ICTmagic I agree #ukedchat

20:15:57 @KempsterD#ukedchat Why don't teachers learn about how the brain works at college? Amechanic would know what makes a car go. Should be obligatory.

20:15:57 @PCampbell91#ukedchat (4/4) allows opportunity for the formulation of your own philosophy ofeducation and the development of your own teaching style.

20:16:02 @davidhunterRT @BehaviourA: #ukedchat Yes School based training could be a real concern -replicating what already exists and losing creative approaches

20:16:03 @oldandrewuk#ukedchat New teachers need to be told the truth about behaviour, not lies aboutbeing nice or making lessons interesting.

20:16:05 @infernaldepart Blog Post - Using Badges for #digitalstudies http://t.co/o1x3YfjP - #ictcurric #ukedchat

20:16:06 @MissPressie91RT @TalkNQT: How to chill out and get away from school would be a good thing tolearn at times! #ukedchat

20:16:06 @syded06 #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than just teach

20:16:06 @benniekara#UKEdChat new teachers shouldn't just be taught phonics - all teachers shouldunderstand developing comprehension in reading any text

20:16:09 @JoPearceless emphasis on planning and more on how teaching impacts learning - how to judge

learning and adapt planning:developing instinct #ukedchat20:16:10 @nightzookeeper @jamesdradburn @emmaannhardy @depjo would be useful to have more practical

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examples of what constitutes various levels #ukedchat

20:16:19 @nickotkdIV @eslweb so a SCITT type approach may be best? #ukedchat

20:16:23 @Kezmerrelda @katiejoners #ukedchat and to realise that you can prioritise life over work sometimes!

20:16:24 @DepJo@jamesdradburn @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Just out of interestwhat is their line on what it is their job to teach?

20:16:25 @ICTmagic

Every teacher, new&old should remember they're there to make every child the best

they can be. Not push them through the 'factory' #ukedchat20:16:33 @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @davidhunter @jamesdradburn how many do drop out? #ukedchat

20:16:35 @oldandrewuk#ukedchat New teachers need to know how the bureaucracy works, and what theworkload is like.

20:16:36 @eslweb@MissPressie91 I went to Sunderland and generally did a first class job, but theMonday morning lectures were wasted opportunity.#ukedchat

20:16:46 @jamesdradburn @nightzookeeper @emmaannhardy @depjo I completely agree! #ukedchat

20:16:52 @ICTwitzDid a study recently. Quite a substantial number of primary teachers don't like havingstudent teachers in their classroom #ukedchat

20:16:56 @anhalfRT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for newteachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat

20:16:56 @SurrealAnarchy @oldandrewuk being horrible & boring lessons always worked for me #ukedchat

20:16:56 @emmaannhardy@eslweb I agree. Also if you are in an unsupportive school if can totally put you offteaching. #ukedchat

20:16:58 @mberry@JoPearce I (and I think many of my colleagues) usually see it as a Good Thing whenstudents deviate from their plans. #ukedchat

20:17:01 @ukedchatReminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the next generation oftrainee teachers?

20:17:07 @mikeatedji @PCampbell91 Why do you say this? #ukedchat

20:17:07 @raisechildrens#ukedchat they should ensure that the student teacher knows that no teaching practicecan really prepare you for having your own class.

20:17:12 @benniekara#UKEdChat I also think that the basics of cognitive behaviour therapy can helpteachers understand how to address difficult behaviours

20:17:16 @JamiePortmanRT @KempsterD: #ukedchat Why don't teachers learn about how the brain works atcollege? A mechanic would know what makes a car go >> Agreed!

20:17:16 @emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk but then they would never start! #ukedchat

20:17:16 @davidhunter@oldandrewuk @super_sixfive I've never seen this but I'd be really interested.heardthat its a flawed concept #ukedchat any links?

20:17:19 @oldandrewuk@super_sixfive Positive. More emotional intelligence, the worse behaved people are.#ukedchat

20:17:22 @BenRogersOVA@GeographyCarrie Behaviour mngment is what new teachers find hardest. You needto get that sorted before you can do the fun stuff #ukedchat

20:17:25 @GeographyCarrie@anhalf I think planning for behaviour can be taught and was not something that I wastaught in school placements #ukedchat

20:17:27 @MrAColleyRT @mberry: @JoPearce I (and I think many of my colleagues) usually see it as aGood Thing when students deviate from their plans. #ukedchat

20:17:32 @OmarKettlewell RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @jamesdradburn hosting. Topic:'What should be taught to the next generation of trainee teachers?'

20:17:39 @KempsterDRT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather thanjust teach

20:17:42 @jamesdradburn Do you believe there is enough teaching practice? #ukedchat

20:17:44 @MissJButt"Trainee teachers should be taught to make a good cup of tea and to know whichbiscuits to buy for the school" (Friend, A 2012). #ukedchat

20:17:46 @GeographyCarrieRT @BenRogersOVA Behaviour mngment is what new teachers find hardest. Youneed to get that sorted before you can do the fun stuff #ukedchat

20:17:48 @nickotkdIV #ukedchat also worth mentioning investment in 2nd, 3rd year teachers!!

20:17:48 @madlizz@jamesdradburn #ukedchat not saying you can't *teach* those but it's soo better to trythem out...only so much theory can actually teach us

20:17:50 @DJTom3@jamesdradburn @MattFothergill they should had someome to step in. #ukedchat

20:17:59 @ICTwitzStudy showed that Student Teacher main role in school practice is all about managingthe relationship with teacher, not teaching! #ukedchat

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20:18:09 @AliceBakesCakesThere needs to be a way of ensuring quality of placements so that NQTs all come outwith a good range of experiences #ukedchat

20:18:18 @PeterSpencer88@nickotkdIV @emmaannhardy more time before being thrown in at the deep end.CPD courses offer this, PGCE courses don't #ukedchat

20:18:30 @Teachric #ukedchat I would advise all trainee teachers to find another job.

20:18:34 @davidhunter#ukedchat no training to deal with parents at present.they are a MAJOR stakeholder.

So this.

20:18:48 @anhalf@JoPearce def..planning needs tobe based onprior learning,shd notbe formulaic#ukedchat

20:18:51 @eslweb@sarahepeel Yes, I definitely agree with that. Without reflection, you're simply on atreadmill.#ukedchat

20:18:52 @nightzookeeper @BenRogersOVA what would you put into that tool kit #ukedchat

20:19 @BenRogersOVA @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat

20:19:04 @oldandrewuk@ICTmagic I didn't criticise being adaptable. Just the belief that what changes is moreimportant than what doesn't. #ukedchat

20:19:10 @katiejoners@sue25c @anhalf @dkeano1985 only 10 years until I can manage that then :) haha#promising #ukedchat

20:19:10 @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat teachers should be taught that the first year is just the first of many stilllearning, my teaching changes from year to year.

20:19:13 @MissRead10RT @nickotkdIV: RT @TalkNQT: #ukedchat As an NQT, I'd like to have someshadowing of different roles in a school to see where I want my career to go.

20:19:15 @syded06#ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observe students outside theclassroom and how to interact with them

20:19:21 @Johnnymusictutr#ukedchat Learn more awareness to the effects of bullying eg: how to spot it and dealwith it quickly long before it gets out of control.

20:19:24 @MissPressie91@Teaching_LMP: ITTs need to be taught that they are still making a difference. helpson cold dark lesson planning nights #ukedchat" RETWEET!

20:19:34 @GeographyCarrieRT @BenRogersOVA Reflective teachers become outstanding teachers #ukedchat


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20:20:35 @PCampbell91@mikeatedji #ukedchat (2/3) 'Training' infers there is a formula, a set way, whereas ittakes study, reflection, application,

20:20:39 @emmaannhardy @Johnnymusictutr Not just from pupils. #ukedchat

20:20:42 @madlizz@nickotkdIV #ukedchat in Coventry there is special CPD for teachers in 2nd year.Good for networking, sharing ideas and experiences.

20:20:44 @joanne_rich@BenRogersOVA @geographycarrie #ukedchat Agree that reflective practice is

incredibly important - concerns over time for that in SCITT

20:20:48 @PCampbell91@mikeatedji #ukedchat (3/3) more reflection, and a continuous process of think, applyand reflect. right from the early phase of ITE.

20:20:50 @ICTwitz@cherrylkd Good to hear. Having a good trainee is fantastic. Having a poor one ishard work #ukedchat

20:20:51 @oldandrewuk@davidhunter #ukedchat Life isn't facts and skills. Most skills require knowledge. Allmental skills are mainly based on knowledge.

20:20:55 @anhalfRT @BenRogersOVA @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstandingteachers #ukedchat < love this

20:21 @BenRogersOVART @PCampbell91: #ukedchat (4/4) allows opportunity for the formulation of your ownphilosophy of education and the development of your own teaching style.

20:21:01 @SteveThursby@MattFothergill Also need to help parents communicate with their children, setboundaries and be consistent. #ukedchat

20:21:01 @KateDigitalMe#ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generation of users - and teachthem how to stay safe at the same time

20:21:02 @davidhunter @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn 50% I think #ukedchat

20:21:07 @DepJo @anhalf #ukedchat archived? ;-)

20:21:14 @Teaching_LMPRT @KateDigitalMe: #ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generationof users - and teach them how to stay safe at the same time

20:21:14 @PCampbell91RT @KateDigitalMe: #ukedchat how to use technology to inspire the next generationof users - and teach them how to stay safe at the same time

20:21:15 @AliceBakesCakes@OmarKettlewell Tough. I had a nightmare and retook, but know if I'd scraped a passI'd have been totally unprepared! #ukedchat

20:21:26 @oldandrewuk@emmaannhardy @claireothacehe #ukedchat There's nothing sane about beingpositive about poor behaviour.

20:21:31 @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat Also to embrace and try as many new ways of teaching things as possible.

20:21:42 @emmaannhardy@PeterSpencer88 @nickotkdIV I did a PGCE, It was effective. Most don't takestudents unless they already have school experience #ukedchat

20:21:46 @KempsterDLike any good learner, student teachers should be allwd to make mistakes, take risksand be creative. Ban the 3 prt lssn nonsense! #ukedchat

20:21:51 @ICTwitz@GlynRogers Agreed. When students enter school, that should be the sole focus,reflecting on uni-based work #ukedchat

20:21:53 @madlizz@AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat I agree! There also need to be consistency betweentraining providers so all have the same targets and support

20:21:54 @davidhunter@oldandrewuk @syded06 I am not suggesting that children do not learnknowledge.that is preposterous #ukedchat

20:21:55 @MissPressie91RT @DepJo: #ukedchat trainee teachers need subject knowledge of how to teach realthings. Experience of planning & teaching guided reading/phonics etc

20:21:59 @nickotkdIV@madlizz there is in Leicester, it is just not on at convenient times (week afterChrsitmas etc) #ukedchat

20:21:59 @GlynRogersRT @BenRogersOVA: @GeographyCarrie Reflective teachers become outstandingteachers #ukedchat

20:22:05 @nightzookeeper@emmaannhardy @eslweb It is a real shame when that happens. Saw a few of myfellow teachers go through that during PGCE #ukedchat

20:22:06 @SteveThursby @BehaviourA And teach parents how to manage their child's behaviour too #ukedchat

20:22:08 @GeographyCarrie@joanne_rich Perhaps time needs to be made for it? Reflection time built intotimetable... or is that too prescriptive? #ukedchat

20:22:13 @susanbanister @KempsterD I agree #ukedchat

20:22:16 @KateDigitalMe#ukedchat see http://t.co/Hub6dZU3 for free resources on social networking for traineeand long in the tooth teachers too

20:22:17 @agarridodiez @davidhunter: #ukedchat cooperative learning pedagogy a must.this is how the worldworks.chn need to operate this way agree. #edchat

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20:22:24 @ICTmagic@MissJButt I completely agree. Every time I have a SCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in myclass I learn so much. #ukedchat

20:22:34 @andyjordonRT @syded06: #ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observestudents outside the classroom and how to interact with them

20:22:37 @oldandrewuk@BehaviourA @claireothacehe #ukedchat Well, bad behaviour should be treatednegatively. Trying to change it by being nice is appeasement.

20:22:38 @benniekara #UKEdChat what if we trained teachers in the psychology of resilience - might helpunderstand the difficulties of that first year?

20:22:39 @Starshine_Music @jackieschneider grr got delayed. Have I missed chat about music? #ukedchat

20:22:44 @OmarKettlewell #ukedchat Practice makes perfect!!!

20:22:45 @Teaching_LMPSorry all. Going to have to step away. I'll check back on the archives though. Keep itup! #ukedchat

20:22:46 @GeekPeterRT @ingswaddle: #ukedchat the chance to observe, talk to, and eavesdrop on theexcellent and experienced - which is difficult in rush of modern school

20:22:48 @nickotkdIVRT @ICTmagic: @MissJButt I completely agree. Every time I have aSCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in my class I learn so much. #ukedchat

20:22:58 @KempsterDRT @GeographyCarrie RT @BenRogersOVA Reflective teachers become outstandingteachers #ukedchat Reflective people surely ;-)

20:23:07 @eslweb#ukedchat I also think there is a place for team teaching. But not many teachers knowhow to do this effectively.

20:23:08 @nightzookeeper@eslweb It would be more beneficial at the beginning of your course to observe agreater variety of teachers in the classroom #ukedchat

20:23:11 @AliceBakesCakes@madlizz Yes, Me and my yr grp partner are both NQTs from diff. unis, and both of ushad completely different experiences! #ukedchat

20:23:27 @smurfatikread recently that NQTs reported lack of training to support needs of ESL students as1 of main concerns about ITT #ukedchat

20:23:31 @Kezmerrelda@GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat I agree we are always learning and you never know it all -ever! But you always worry you should!

20:23:34 @DepJo@jamesdradburn #ukedchat do you attend uni full time or could you get into schoolsany more?

20:23:36 @mberry@GeographyCarrie Need to be able to reflect with others too, I think. Not all schools

are the same. Facebook helps #ukedchat @joanne_rich20:23:37 @Romaaddict

#ukedchat Am I allowed to mention basic accuracy? Can't believe the glaring errors onsome teachers' worksheets and school websites!

20:23:38 @GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat they should be taught to take a few risks and let the students lead thelearning.

20:23:38 @emmaannhardy@oldandrewuk @claireothacehe I use positive behaviour strategies - they do work, butpupils need to know when they cross the line. #ukedchat

20:23:39 @OmarKettlewell#ukedchat I think there needs to be a diversity of experience coming into tching. Esp inprimary. Pupils can get so much more out of it!

20:23:42 @DKeano1985@katiejoners @sue25c 5 years in I can see the light but fixtures continue to make it adream #ukedchat #one day

20:23:51 @joclap89as a current trainee teacher and rep for the PGCE course I'd appreciate any of ideastoo #ukedchat

20:23:53 @oldandrewuk @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You did, however, suggest they shouldn't learnfacts. Hard to see one existing without the other.

20:23:59 @GeographyCarrie @mberry And twitter!! #ukedchat

20:23:59 @anhalfRT @nickotkdIV RT @ICTmagic: @MissJButt I agree. Evry time I have aSCITT/GTP/PGCE teacher in my class I learn so much. #ukedchat< me too

20:24:11 @eslweb@nightzookeeper Sunderland were pretty good at that, we got to see a really goodrange of teachers including Primary #ukedchat

20:24:15 @madlizz@nickotkdIV #ukedchat can't remember when ours was.Was in school time tho.Weekafter christmas is ok...can implement new ideas in new term!

20:24:16 @mikeatedji#ukedchat Am I in a minority of 1 thinking there is insufficient emphasis on ed forsustainable development in ITE?

20:24:25 @IsobelFeaver@emmaannhardy #ukedchat True support from Management can create opportunities

from the most mundane situations.20:24:27 @GeorgeEBlack

#ukedchat also never ever try to blag your way through something you don't know.Teenagers can detect BS at a 150 paces.

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20:24:30 @DepJo@emmaannhardy #ukedchat absolutely and not all good teachers are good atsupporting trainees

20:24:36 @RachaelHKnight@jamesdradburn Take advantage of course finishing in may/june and get into a school#ukedchat Kids camp / playscheme etc good too

20:24:41 @jamesdradburn@DepJo I attend full time but I have taken experiences to visit Czech and America toteach #ukedchat

20:24:43 @PCampbell91 @MrWickensPE #ukedchat I actually reckon the first step would be getting thetechnology so everyone has fair access! Painful in some schools

20:24:49 @OmarKettlewell #ukedchat Preparing pupils for 21st century http://t.co/dfTloggw

20:24:50 @joanne_rich#ukedchat How about 'supervision' sessions much like those used in Social Serviceson a regular basis and not just for NQT year?

20:24:51 @claireothacehe@oldandrewuk #ukedchat yes but you do need to have a positive approach, be a rolemodel of your pos. expectations and use pos. reinforcement

20:24:52 @MrWickensPE@jamesdradburn need to stop students coming straight out of Uni with no/littleexperience. Should have job before teacher training #ukedchat

20:24:54 @SteveThursby @teshelen Getting the balance right is of utmost importance and a real art #ukedchat

20:24:56 @oldandrewuk@BehaviourA #ukedchat That which corresponds to reality. Of course, you could denythis but then I'd ask whether your denial was true.

20:24:58 @eslweb @mikeatedji Could you tell me more about this?#ukedchat

20:25:04 @mberry@GeographyCarrie Ah, Twitter. Yes, I've heard of that ;-) FB good for sharing with owncommunity, Twitter for the wider network. #ukedchat

20:25:10 @BehaviourA#ukedchat @oldandrewuk 'Bad' behaviour / attention seeking is always for a reason.Unless cause adressed doesn't go away.Supressed maybe

20:25:19 @JazzieDe#ukedchat@JamesAbela @sarapeel But that is the reality isn't it.I sometimes feel I willfall off treadmill so definately teach how to pause

20:25:26 @BenRogersOVART @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat they should be taught to take a few risks and let thestudents lead the learning.

20:25:28 @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat no BS, if you don't know then don't try and blag it.

20:25:33 @syded06 #ukedchat Trainee really need more than the hour allocated to mentors!!!

20:25:34 @MrWickensPE

@jamesdradburn I know of too many people not going into teaching after PGCE

because of little experience before. #ukedchat

20:25:34 @DepJo#ukedchat behaviour management real strategies are a definite need on teachertraining. Not just theory. How to deal with challenging chdn

20:25:43 @jamesdradburn@MrWickensPE hence why I am going to America and Czech to teach and get lifeexperience #ukedchat

20:25:46 @oldandrewuk@super_sixfive @BehaviourA #ukedchat Ah, it's all an excuse for blaming teachers?Should have seen that coming.

20:25:47 @nightzookeeper@emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk @claireothacehe does anyone use Class Dojo? Hasit been a successful behaviour management tool? #ukedchat

20:25:49 @benniekara@Romaaddict: #ukedchat Can't believe the glaring errors on teachers' worksheets andschool websites! < agreed!

20:25:51 @stevewn#ukedchat my pre-PGCE experience was a year doing RE lessons, Assemblies andResidentials as a charity intern...many mistakes, learnt alot!

20:26:12 @jamesdradburnWhat good/bad practice have you seen from NQTs that you want to be promoted oreradicated at University? #ukedchat

20:26:14 @OmarKettlewell@JanieT56 I just turned it off! Changed my mind!!. I need to give it time. Marked in#ukedchat though.

20:26:22 @madlizz@AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat & prob were set diff targets & everything! A GTPstudent at sch atm had final tutor visit last wk...seems early!

20:26:31 @BenRogersOVAThe toughest lesson to learn is resilience. How many of us cried in the toilets duringour training? #ukedchat

20:26:39 @DepJo@anhalf #ukedchat good while they lasted?! ;-) Who knows what comes next? I heargovnt is considering abolishing levels all together?!!

20:26:40 @super_sixfiveRT @BehaviourA: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk 'Bad' behaviour / attention seeking isalways for a reason. Unless cause adressed doesn't go away.Supressed maybe

20:26:41 @KempsterD All students need to hear and learn from a wide variety of sources and formulate theirideas about learning. #ukedchat #wrrdboutteachingscls

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20:26:44 @mikeatedji#ukedchat How to get beyond platitudes of recycling and anto littering and switchingoff lights...many different points of intervention

20:26:48 @ICTwitz#ukedchat Uni of Glasgow are trying a 'teaching hospital' method of training studentteachers for PGC(D)E's. Jury is out!

20:26:49 @HaudIgnotaRT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat also never ever try to blag your way throughsomething you don't know. Teenagers can detect BS at a 150 paces.

20:26:54 @IsobelFeaver @syded06 #ukedchat If I required perfection from my pupils I would require it frommyself. Dedication, motivation and commitment are key.

20:26:55 @PCampbell91#ukedchat Creativity, innovation, failure, success, critical, flexible, relevant,sustainable, networking, cross sector, collaborative.

20:27:05 @Little_Sparra#ukedchat To listen to the children, talk with the children, not at them, laugh with them,sing with them, know them.

20:27:10 @BenRogersOVA@GeorgeEBlack I don't know if I agree with that! Creative blagging is an art.#ukedchat

20:27:11 @mattpearsonRT @ukedchat: Reminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to thenext generation of trainee teachers?

20:27:15 @susanbanister@DepJo @emmaannhardy Many teachers seem to forget what it was like to be atrainee. #notwelcomingorsupportive #ukedchat

20:27:16 @GeographyCarrie

Our current trainees in English/ICT not had any experience in running trips, unlike

geographers...should ALL trainees get this? #ukedchat

20:27:18 @emmaannhardy@DepJo Agreed - but not just for trainees, we should all not be scared to ask foradvice and learn from others. #ukedchat

20:27:20 @mikeatedji@eslweb Getting beyond platitudes of recycling and anto littering and switching offlights...many different points of intervention #ukedchat

20:27:22 @DKeano1985@MrWickensPE totally agree experience of real life is key. Too many studentsstruggling from my experiences #ukedchat

20:27:24 @BehaviourART @DepJo: #ukedchat behaviour management real strategies are a definite need onteacher training. Not just theory. How to deal with challenging chdn

20:27:26 @AliceBakesCakes@MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn I disagree, on my PGCE it was those who had hadother jobs (unless in schools) who found it hardest #ukedchat

20:27:30 @raisechildrens#ukedchat I also think students should teach in a variety of contexts, inner city, leafy

lane, SEN, as well as primary/secondary.20:27:35 @McGuinness1 RT @thosethatcan: @ukedchat to see their well being as CPD #ukedchat

20:27:44 @mattpearsonthe next generation of teachers need to be taught to largely ignore anything whichpoliticians say about education #ukedchat

20:27:48 @JustAddH2OtvAny teachers in south-west want to show off their skills in #STEMFactor.Will train andmotivate, just need enthusiasm and courage #ukedchat

20:27:51 @DJTom3@jamesdradburn @MattFothergill ok was that the teacher you work with at school? okthats good it went well. #ukedchat

20:27:51 @madlizz@nickotkdIV but we always want to be in class! Have to prioritise sometimes.#ukedchat

20:27:55 @OmarKettlewellRT @Little_Sparra: #ukedchat To listen to the children, talk with the children, not atthem, laugh with them, sing with them, know them.

20:27:56 @DepJo

@jamesdradburn #ukedchat just a thought but do yr local church or Catholic schls

have different hols? Could build up work experience there?

20:28:04 @MrAColleyI'd teach how to plan, obs & feedback collaboratively. Very useful to make time to dothis regardless of experience. #ukedchat

20:28:09 @BehaviourA @joanne_rich great idea but expensive #ukedchat

20:28:13 @nickotkdIVRT @mattpearson the next generation of teachers need to be taught to largely ignoreanything which politicians say about education #ukedchat

20:28:19 @emmaannhardy@DepJo @anhalf and putting in a completely prescriptive set of objectives to taught ateach year = new 'levels' #ukedchat

20:28:21 @davidhunter@oldandrewuk @syded06 should I spend my time teaching the river system orenabling chn to discver and criticise each others views? #ukedchat

20:28:22 @mberry@ukedchat Not sure it should be taught but I think it important that trainee/all teachersremember what it was like to be a child. #ukedchat

20:28:22 @benniekara @BenRogersOVA I believe the same thing - it is a skill/quality that is often overlookedand very much tested throughout career #UKEdChat

20:28:22 @susanbanister @mberry @GeographyCarrie Twitter what??.. Doubt that will take off ;) #ukedchat

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20:28:26 @ICTwitz@Romaaddict #ukedchat Completely agree. It is scary! I cringe when I see teachersget we're/where/were wrong, even on twitter :-s Shame!

20:28:27 @joanne_rich@BenRogersOVA Absolutely - I raised that earlier - surely teaching resilience is key toreducing the drop out rate? #ukedchat

20:28:34 @SteveThursby@jasonelsom Very interesting. I wonder if Dutch universities offer post grad distancelearning? #ukedchat

20:28:34 @nickotkdIV @madlizz hehe! True! #ukedchat

20:28:42 @jamesdradburn@madlizz @nickotkdIV I find that problem on placement! just wanting to be in theclass #ukedchat observing other is essential for CPD

20:28:45 @DepJo @joanne_rich #ukedchat interesting!

20:28:48 @hembick"@ukedchat: Reminder of tonight's #ukedchat topic: What should be taught to the nextgeneration of trainee teachers?" > DON'T DO IT!!

20:28:49 @eslweb@mikeatedji You really mean it in an environmental context. I'd like to think mostuniversity students have a decent idea already #ukedchat

20:28:51 @mikeatedji@PCampbell91 Fair enough - Although I don't infer that from 'training' ... more akin totrialling and learning #ukedchat

20:28:52 @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn That sounds like a great move. What age? #ukedchat

20:28:57 @syded06@IsobelFeaver Absolutely and it's tougher with all the paperwork/targets etc

#ukedchat20:29 @claireothacehe

#ukedchat my 2 PGCE students are struggling the most with planning -I forget all theelements that go into it that you have to learn!

20:29:11 @BehaviourART @syded06: #ukedchat to insist the trainee attends a residential trip to observestudents outside the classroom and how to interact with them

20:29:13 @raisechildrens#ukedchat I learned loads from doing six months of supply before having my ownclass, invaluable paid experience in many diff contexts.

20:29:15 @BehaviourART @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather thanjust teach

20:29:17 @AliceBakesCakes@madlizz Yes, different expectations in terms of teaching time, what level of teachingconstituted a pass, evidence needed #ukedchat

20:29:23 @PCampbell91 @mikeatedji #ukedchat As with anything, it's down to interpretation and opinion.

20:29:25 @catchkitey@AliceBakesCakes true... but the best kinds of experiences are 'on the job' as EVERY

clas ive ever had (20 yrs) has been different #ukedchat

20:29:25 @Little_Sparra#ukedchat Appreciate the TA's, they know the kids on a whole different level & cansupport you in supporting them.

20:29:28 @davidhunter@SteveIredale @Kathrinedavies @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king you are ipad I takeit? How many you have? Proxy issues? #ukedchat

20:29:34 @nickotkdIV@jamesdradburn @madlizz we do Video caoching where you video lesson then allcan see it. Less pressure #ukedchat

20:29:36 @trisha_telfer@OmarKettlewell #ukedchat That is inevitable Omar surely? It's opportunities toshow/celebrate this diversity of experience that we need...

20:29:42 @jrussellteacher @ukedchat http://t.co/yO87aqHB and http://t.co/Ut4eiCp4 #ukedchat #edchat

20:29:44 @Kezmerrelda@MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn #ukedchat agree that good teachers tend to havedone something else first job wise experience of life important

20:29:47 @AnnaBakerJones#ukedchat I'm starting PGCE Sept 2013 but already in my 2nd year of volunteering asmuch time in school(s) as I can. Be prepared!!!

20:29:50 @jamesdradburn@MrWickensPE primary (which I am doing) - I am getting stuck into everything at unilike this to develop as a person #ukedchat

20:29:50 @nightzookeeper@claireothacehe @emmaannhardy @oldandrewuk Yeah I have looked at it but am yetto use it. Let me know how it goes #ukedchat

20:29:51 @madlizz@jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV have to make the most of obs of otherteachers...doesn't happen much once past 2nd yr #ukedchat

20:29:53 @MrWickensPEAllow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link teacher does not feelcomfortable #ukedchat

20:29:56 @joanne_rich@BehaviourA Very and time heavy but if we're moving away from Uni based coursesthen probably essential #ukedchat

20:29:58 @BenRogersOVART @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather than

just teach20:30:07 @snapshotscience

New blog post on space elevators, teaching ideas for chem &phys:http://t.co/UuGS1Sl7 #asechat #scichat #ukedchat

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20:30:07 @DepJo @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Agree completely!

20:30:09 @nickotkdIV@jamesdradburn @madlizz also you can edit it to show best parts #ukedchat verypostive CPD and very quick!

20:30:12 @mberry@claireothacehe Do you think the HEI makes the planning paperwork too complex?#ukedchat

20:30:12 @GeographyCarrie@AliceBakesCakes @MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn The pple who did best on our

PGCE had other jobs first/more life experience #ukedchat

20:30:18 @mikeatedji@eslweb Not in my experience, but you may be right. It does not translate sufficientlyinto practice in schools though #ukedchat

20:30:21 @davidhunter@DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn terrible waste of money.maybe takingpeople at 18 is a bad idea. #ukedchat

20:30:23 @emmaannhardy@DepJo @joanne_rich they are introducing 'coaching' which I think is a similar idea.#ukedchat

20:30:37 @jamesdradburn@MrWickensPE really depends on the class teacher. I have been ignored by myteacher for my first week before #ukedchat

20:30:46 @susanbanister @mberry @ukedchat I would be disappointed if they didn't #ukedchat

20:30:46 @eslweb

Let me save you some serious planning headaches, here's one I made earlier

http://t.co/Mr6szfoDCovers everything under the sun.#ukedchat

20:30:51 @madlizz@AliceBakesCakes #ukedchat exactly! Yet we level chn by all the same APPcriteria...should be the same for trainees aside from the stds.

20:30:54 @IsobelFeaver @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat both! #ukedchat

20:30:57 @BizitalkRT @syded06: #ukedchat to take an interest in students and talk to them rather thanjust teach

20:31 @benniekara#UKEdChat all trainee teachers should be made to watch The Mighty Ducks. Now thatis a lesson in leadership of children! #teachingfilms

20:31:02 @trisha_telferRT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if linkteacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat

20:31:04 @super_sixfive#ukedchat shadowing the CP officer in the school will certainly open ITT students eyesto the real problems that get mopped up by schools

20:31:05 @HeidiCWatkinsRT @TalkNQT: Please spread the word about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU, a forum for newteachers to connect and get support! #ukedchat

20:31:06 @BenRogersOVA@BehaviourA @syded06 Trips are a great way of getting to know students better. Thepressure of getting through the lesson is gone. #ukedchat

20:31:08 @DepJo@susanbanister @emmaannhardy #ukedchat Yes it's just like learner drivers.. We allwere one but all drive impatiently behind them moaning!

20:31:09 @OmarKettlewell@hembick @ukedchat Shouldn't it be what COULD & SHOULD be taught to oldermore experienced teachers?Wht can new generation provide?#ukedchat

20:31:20 @Little_Sparra#ukedchat When reading to the class, don't rush the story! Take your time! Catch theeyes of the children, make them part of the story!

20:31:21 @emmaannhardy @OmarKettlewell @hembick @ukedchat Don't get @oldandrewuk started! #ukedchat

20:31:22 @Ste_kins #ukedchat in general... Take risks and try something new. Specifically whilst teaching -talk less. Question more.

20:31:22 @mberryRT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if linkteacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat

20:31:31 @MrAColleyNot sure how to teach this, but flexibility & dealing w uncertainty. Just as you get thehang of teaching a course they change it! #ukedchat

20:31:36 @Starshine_MusicJust arrived a few mins ago - anyone been talking about music in teacher trainingprogrammes? #ukedchat

20:31:45 @KempsterD#ukedchat Too many student teachers/nqts know lots about teaching but very littleabout learning.

20:31:48 @eslweb@mikeatedji It's important, but this should be taught AT school AND university beforeteaching practice. #ukedchat

20:31:55 @madlizz

@nickotkdIV @jamesdradburn shouldn't be pressure from a peer obs...both parties

can learn and help. Should happen more! #ukedchat20:32 @jamesdradburn @Starshine_Music lack of music.. #ukedchat

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20:32:12 @susanbanisterThe next generation of teachers should just try what they feel is right. Don't let olderdisillusioned teachers grind you down #ukedchat

20:32:17 @claireothacehe@mberry #ukedchat it's more all the elements you need to include, other adults, diff.,home learning links etc. it's a lot at first!

20:32:21 @emmaannhardy@jamesdradburn @MrWickensPE There are some truly horrible stories. This is againwhy I prefer teacher training institutions. #ukedchat

20:32:23 @OmarKettlewell @trisha_telfer #ukedchat Correct. I was in skl with 1 BEd tchr. The rest were postgrads with completely diff backgrounds 1/2

20:32:25 @GlynRogers#ukedchat developing interpersonal skills so important for teaching. 'Emotionalintelligence' vital for successful career

20:32:26 @Starshine_Music Or performing arts generally in teacher training? #ukedchat

20:32:34 @MrWickensPE@PCampbell91 Hence why too many hurdles to jump over. Teachers are too scaredof social media. #ukedchat

20:32:38 @IsobelFeaver@Johnnymusictutr @mattpearson #ukedchat If they are devoted trainees they won'thave time or energy to bother listening to politicians.

20:32:42 @syded06 Too much educational theory not enough application #ukedchat

20:32:42 @jamesdradburnwhat do people think about #BEDplacement being in pairs on teaching placement!#ukedchat

20:32:47 @AnnaBakerJones#ukedchat I also worked for a decade as a senior exec in big company so hope I won'tbe wet behind the ears.

20:32:48 @KempsterDRT @Ste_kins: #ukedchat in general... Take risks and try something new. Specificallywhilst teaching - talk less. Question more.

20:32:50 @claireothacehe@mberry #ukedchat I suppose it also depends on how rigorous the paperworkexpectations are or if you can use your own ideas

20:32:53 @Ramsay71@MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if link tutordoes not feel comfortable #ukedchat #EPS2UOGThemeWeek

20:33:02 @Costa_Man1RT @JamiePortman: RT @KempsterD: #ukedchat Why don't teachers learn abouthow the brain works at college? A mechanic would know what makes a car go >>Agreed!

20:33:08 @nightzookeeper@MrAColley do you think teachers have collaborative time in their timetabled week?Difficult sometimes to get out of own class #ukedchat

20:33:10 @MariamAlhashmi New teachers need to start every school day by reminding themselves: "mistakes arewonderful opportunities to learn" #ukedchat

20:33:10 @PCampbell91@MrWickensPE Yeah, they should have experience in school before entry. Usuallyuni requirement for ITE. Thought you meant any job! #ukedchat

20:33:11 @mberry@Ste_kins Questions are more important than answers. From both teachers andlearners. #ukedchat

20:33:15 @mikeatedji#ukedchat It's striking how few trainee teachers are prepared for dealing withracist/homophobic incidents - the conversations as to HOW

20:33:17 @GeorgeEBlack@BenRogersOVA blagging when you have only planned half a lesson is different fromblagging your way through postmodernist theory.#ukedchat

20:33:17 @jamesdradburn @syded06 but application can only surely be gained through TP? #ukedchat

20:33:21 @madlizz@Jen_Kaye82 @jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV I'd say that's important advice fortrainees...get into as many classrooms as poss! #ukedchat

20:33:23 @susanbanister@DepJo @emmaannhardy Ah but we are in our cars not in front of their faces ;)#ukedchat

20:33:27 @JazzieDe#ukedchat @claireothacehe I haven't looked at our PGCE's planning her practice isoutstanding, children motivated, learning, enjoying

20:33:33 @GraciousWolf_PE RT @syded06: Too much educational theory not enough application #ukedchat

20:33:40 @mberryRT @JazzieDe: #ukedchat @claireothacehe I haven't looked at our PGCE's planningher practice is outstanding, children motivated, learning, enjoying

20:33:44 @GraciousWolf_PERT @MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to take risks, experiment even if linkteacher does not feel comfortable #ukedchat

20:33:44 @Lynnewin100Oooh #ukedchat I don't think I missed it, what's going on? Where are u all at withcollaborations/ federations etc? #leadership

20:33:48 @emmaannhardy@IsobelFeaver @Johnnymusictutr @mattpearson I do think you need to keep

uptodate - join a union would be my advice and get active! #ukedchat20:33:58 @IsobelFeaver

@hembick @ukedchat #ukedchat Teach an ability to embrace and explore changingmethods whist not chucking babies out with bath water.

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20:34:12 @DepJo @jamesdradburn @starshine_music #ukedchat that is also common.. Unfortunately

20:34:12 @mikeatedji@eslweb But the same could be said of maths skills. Knowing how to add isn't thesame as being able to teach it #ukedchat

20:34:15 @mberry@syded06 so which bits of the theory ought we to skip? #ukedchat@GraciousWolf_PE

20:34:16 @thechrissyt#ukedchat having recently qualified, I wish I had known more about the government

stance on teaching...

20:34:24 @nightzookeeper@jamesdradburn @Starshine_Music does that extend to other creative subjects?#ukedchat

20:34:37 @MrAColley@nightzookeeper Not in my exp, but I've used it as part of INSET courses and staffhave got loads from it. Hard to find time tho. #ukedchat

20:34:37 @AnnaBakerJones#ukedchat give children plenty of reflection time - don't rush them. Encourage positiverisk taking.

20:34:39 @AliceBakesCakesOn my PGCE we had to video ourselves teaching then watch as a group. Single mostuseful session. #ukedchat

20:34:41 @McGuinness1I'm a current PGCE student, stifled by archaic transmitter-receiver lessons. I want totake risks, I'm prepared to fight for that! #ukedchat

20:34:42 @OmarKettlewell @MariamAlhashmi Yes - completely agree - It's the best way to learn!! #ukedchat

20:34:42 @KempsterD@susanbanister too right Susan. They can get you down and start you in he samemindset. Usually poor leadership. #ukedchat

20:34:50 @MrWickensPE@jamesdradburn That's why you should be allowed to take these risks. The 'steeplearning curve' part of teaching. #ukedchat

20:34:53 @oldandrewuk @BehaviourA @super_sixfive #ukedchat http://t.co/O37xS3gh

20:34:53 @EmSnapsNew teachers should hold onto the reason they entered education: children. Easy tolose sight of this because of external factors #ukedchat

20:34:54 @GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat teaching should be learner focused and trainees should be taught toenable.

20:35:04 @claireothacehe@JazzieDe #ukedchat I think there's a link there though - planning, teaching, reflectingand repeat - success feeds success

20:35:05 @BehaviourART @raisechildrens: #ukedchat I also think students should teach in a variety ofcontexts, inner city, leafy lane, SEN, as well as primary/secondary.

20:35:15 @eslweb @mikeatedji It terms of pedagogy it falls under the behaviour category and the morehelp you can get with that the better ;) #ukedchat

20:35:15 @thechrissyt#ukedchat agree with it or not, it is what governs us and is crucial to the way we areallowed to teach.

20:35:16 @GeorgeEBlackRT @AliceBakesCakes: On my PGCE we had to video ourselves teaching then watchas a group. Single most useful session. #ukedchat

20:35:22 @alexgingell @MariamAlhashmi think all teachers should do this! :-) #ukedchat

20:35:42 @raisechildrens#ukedchat I did six months of supply teaching and worked in a variety of diff contexts-all paid. Best teaching practice ever!

20:35:45 @eslweb@AliceBakesCakes @GeorgeEBlack I found this really useful too. Lot of teachersdon't want to do it. #ukedchat

20:35:48 @mikeatedji#ukedchat Much more emphasis should also be given to teaching about the globaldimension and not just for Geography teachers

20:35:50 @jamesdradburnHow can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be the best that they can be?#ukedchat

20:35:54 @SheliBB Join in a very mini #DLchat tonight after #ukedchat for digital leader news

20:36:02 @IsobelFeaver@mberry But then without an answer in the first place, how can you question it?#ukedchat chicken and egg

20:36:12 @susanbanister @thechrissyt Why? It'll change tomorrow..l #ukedchat

20:36:13 @ICTmagicRT @jamesdradburn: How can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be thebest that they can be? #ukedchat

20:36:13 @DJTom3@davidhunter @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn but then dont have that with mostcourses. #ukedchat

20:36:17 @jamesdradburn @alexgingell what tips would you give trainee teachers? #ukedchat

20:36:20 @emmaannhardy@thechrissyt You're not alone. I get a lot of support from the #NUT - like minded

people etc #ukedchat20:36:31 @mberry @AliceBakesCakes we have our first years doing this as a T&L assignment, then

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recording a reflective commentary #ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack

20:36:32 @oldandrewuk@davidhunter @IsobelFeaver @syded06 #ukedchat People have been saying that forover 100 years. Why should we believe it this time?

20:36:32 @Jen_Kaye82#ukedchat am in 1st yr of PGCE/2nd in teaching. PGCE could inc behaviour mgt, anddemonstrate more teaching practices/resources

20:36:33 @MrWickensPEAllow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. It should be a 'steep

learning curve'. #ukedchat

20:36:39 @nickotkdIVRT @SheliBB: Join in a very mini #DLchat tonight after #ukedchat for digital leadernews

20:36:39 @Lynnewin100@MrWickensPE @pcampbell91 but some of us are beginning to shift that and makethe most of the opportunities #ukedchat

20:36:48 @PCampbell91#ukedchat Signing off. Exhausted! Will be collating the tweets from the hashtag toshare after tonight via @cpdstrathclyde

20:36:49 @emd1983RT @jamesdradburn: How can a trainee teacher do outside of their course to be thebest that they can be? #ukedchat

20:36:52 @HilaryNunns Subject knowledge alone will not be enough to cope with teaching #ukedchat

20:37 @KempsterD @LouiseC0586 agree but more emphasis on learning rather than teaching. #ukedchat

20:37:06 @AnnaBakerJones#ukedchat @AliceBakesCakes hope I get to do that during my PGCE - sounds really

helpful :)20:37:07 @mikeatedji

@eslweb Ah, I think it goes way beyond the behaviour category, perhaps we agree todisagree #ukedchat

20:37:17 @GeorgeEBlackmaybe I'm just lazy, but I wish I was taught to pick my battles #ukedchat eventually Ilearned that is they were working, then an untucked..

20:37:17 @IsobelFeaver @emmaannhardy Fair point, if you have the time!#ukedchat

20:37:19 @SteveThursby @BehaviourA Increasingly? These are a given for me! #ukedchat

20:37:40 @susanbanister@KempsterD Change schools and it can change your career and opportunities.Ask@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat

20:37:41 @OmarKettlewellHow do we teach pupils?We let them do it themselves & try to minimally guide them.Should it not be the same for student teachers? #ukedchat

20:37:43 @thechrissyt#ukedchat @susanbanister I know, but when you enter teaching and hear about "thecycles of it" you start off the profession a tad clueless!

20:37:44 @davidhunter @DJTom3 @joanne_rich @jamesdradburn plenty of school leavers takingbachelors.would be int to see their % dropout #ukedchat

20:37:47 @jamesdradburnover half way through #ukedchat- alot of ideas already about what trainee teachersshould be! but how do you achieve it all?

20:37:49 @AliceBakesCakes@MrWickensPE @jamesdradburn Ah, that I agree with. Yes, experience in schools,even voluntary or as an MSA (I did in uni hols) #ukedchat

20:37:49 @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat... an untucked shirt really didn't matter.

20:38:06 @eslweb#ukedchat Save as much money as you can before the course, sleep, know subjectand tell everybody your social life is on hold for a year.

20:38:12 @mikeatedjiRT @madlizz: @jamesdradburn @nickotkdIV have to make the most of obs of otherteachers...doesn't happen much once past 2nd yr #ukedchat

20:38:15 @oldandrewuk@davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You should teach the best of all that has beenthought and known.

20:38:20 @GeographyCarrieRT @eslweb: #ukedchat Save as much money as you can before the course, sleep,know subject and tell everybody your social life is on hold for a year.

20:38:28 @Costa_Man1@McGuinness1 good teachers should take risks - well done and keep taking them#ukedchat

20:38:30 @nightzookeeper@AliceBakesCakes I saw myself teaching on vid for the first time the other day, it wasvery interesting. Easy to spot improvements #ukedchat

20:38:35 @mberry @syded06 I suspect most of it is these days. At least, it seems to be here. #ukedchat

20:38:37 @alexgingell@jamesdradburn make the most of all opportunities available to you at uni, observeothers as much as pos., take risks... #ukedchat

20:38:38 @GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat lessons in appropriate levels of sarcasm and conversly how to praise so itmatters.

20:38:39 @AliceBakesCakes@AnnaBakerJones I'd do it anyway! I only got the opportunity because I retook a

placement, was a bit weird, but so useful! #ukedchat20:38:39 @benniekara #UKEdChat That teaching is a lot like driving. Just because you've passed the theory

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test doesn't mean you can do it properly yet.

20:38:41 @trisha_telfer@jamesdradburn #ukedchat pairs is good for peer assessment but I think one studentper class is enough! -class teacher can provide support.

20:38:43 @PhilWheeler1I still think if I end up working away from education I'd still keep an eye on #ukedchat.Great CPD.

20:38:44 @JazzieDe #ukedchat @McGuinness1 Go for it, take your risks and thy will pay off!

20:38:51 @TalkNQT New teachers should be encouraged to go to http://t.co/vx6JMOOU (ok, shamelessplug, sorry!) #ukedchat

20:38:55 @DKeano1985Are powerpoint lessons what we or kids want to see? Learning requires an element ofrisk. Old skool is our safety net not #ukedchat

20:38:58 @ICTmagicI would like to see much more understanding about Primary for Secondary teachersand vice versa. Would be invaluable later. #ukedchat

20:39 @RantingTa#ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you are learning ALL thetime.

20:39:22 @GeographyCarrie#ukedchat Develop a think skin, embrace every opportunity given to you, talk to asmany teachers as possible...

20:39:25 @BenRogersOVA@GeorgeEBlack Picking your battles is very important, with the kids and with slt!#ukedchat

20:39:27 @OmarKettlewell@MariamAlhashmi Completely - this is how pupils learn. It is no different for studentteachers or anybody else for that matter.1/2 #ukedchat

20:39:29 @jamesdradburnrisk taking it a central theme tonight! how can you support/encourage trainee's to takerisks? #ukedchat

20:39:36 @oldandrewuk@emmaannhardy @claireothacehe #ukedchat Going to need more than that.Appeasement does work temporarily.

20:39:44 @emmaannhardyRT @RantingTa: #ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you arelearning ALL the time.

20:39:45 @Jen_Kaye82@MrWickensPE #ukedchat Learning from mistakes yes- but at what cost to students?Sometimes behaviour/relations will be ruined all yr

20:39:50 @mberry@IsobelFeaver Some questions never get answered. Learners spend too much timeanswering questions & rarely get chance to ask own. #ukedchat

20:39:51 @eslweb@DKeano1985 A few slides OK, better than writing on WB, but not more than 5 to 10

minutes even at A-level #ukedchat20:39:53 @IsobelFeaver

IMPORTANT. Pretend that teaching will not dominate and take over your life. Repeatmany times. You will be lying to yourself #ukedchat

20:39:54 @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @IsobelFeaver @syded06 information explosion. #ukedchat

20:39:54 @bramleyapplecc@HaudIgnota haha! Nope! embrace the journey, be inquisitive and have some inklingabout what kind of teacher they want 2 b! #ukedchat

20:39:55 @AliceBakesCakes@nightzookeeper Helped me notice all the children I wasn't picking up on messingabout too, kept my beady eye on them then! #ukedchat

20:39:57 @GeographyCarrie Reflect on the good, bad and the ugly and then MOVE ON!! #ukedchat

20:39:58 @ethinking#ukedchat challenge is blend between Elastoplast type info needed now and deepunderstanding for ten years time - viable on BED but PGCe?

20:39:58 @OmarKettlewell@MariamAlhashmi 2/2 #ukedchat If you burn your hand on a flame, you won't put yourhand near it again! #SelfLearning

20:39:58 @BehaviourA #ukedchat is @oldandrewuk a psuedonym for David Starkey?

20:40 @Starshine_Music@DepJo @jamesdradburn it was the same when I was at college. Lack of skilledteacher trainers in this area or what? #ukedchat

20:40:03 @PhilWheeler1New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use #ukedchat weekly.No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:40:23 @KempsterDTrainees need to be aware that chldn are people and not sme other 'species' Theyrespond as humans. Lk down on them and u lose em. #ukedchat

20:40:26 @BenRogersOVA @GeorgeEBlack Humour and praise take a lifetime to get right #ukedchat

20:40:34 @StrictTeacher99#ukedchat only join senior management if you promise to remember what it's like toteach in the classroom!

20:40:36 @mikallaane#ukedchat Is ITT training consistent across all the different institutions? I have noticedthat there isn't consistency.

20:40:39 @alexgingell @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and in sch, you mustwant to learn and develop too! #ukedchat

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20:40:43 @susanbanister @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat

20:40:44 @dannynicit's not just being confident to use ICT. It's having the confidence to NOT use it whenother methods are more appropriate #ukedchat

20:40:48 @davidhunter@Kathrinedavies @SteveIredale @JamiePortman @Andy_s_king interesting. I'mgoing to get in touch when we trial one ;) #ukedchat

20:40:49 @jamesdradburn@alexgingell I'm taking those opportunities and other, such as hosting #ukedchat but

does it necessary make me a better teacher?

20:40:52 @AliceBakesCakes@eslweb @GeorgeEBlack did feel a bit strange to start with, but recorded a fewlessons so got used to it! #ukedchat

20:40:52 @emmaannhardy@oldandrewuk @claireothacehe Positive behaviour management is not appeasement.As an infant teacher it really works. #ukedchat

20:40:53 @mberry @ethinking Perhaps comes back to cultivating a love of learning? #ukedchat

20:40:59 @BenRogersOVA @ICTmagic Totally agree. We have joint inset training #ukedchat

20:41 @eslweb@DKeano1985 Every PowerPoint slide has a discussion point. Helps to keep classengaged.#ukedchat

20:41:04 @nightzookeeper @AliceBakesCakes ah yes, that's always useful too #ukedchat

20:41:04 @GeorgeEBlackRT @RantingTa: #ukedchat To remember you don't know it all. In education, you are

learning ALL the time.

20:41:05 @ICTmagic@deafdotty Of course, but I think KS1/2 is 'better', because often attached. KS2 toKS3 isn't addressed. #ukedchat

20:41:17 @davidhunterRT @oldandrewuk: @davidhunter @syded06 #ukedchat You should teach the best ofall that has been thought and known.

20:41:19 @PhilWheeler1RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise toremember what it's like to teach in the classroom!

20:41:22 @GeekPeterRT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use#ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:41:26 @GeographyCarrieWe can encourage new teachers to take risks by being open minded with their riskseven if we don't think they will work! #ukedchat

20:41:35 @mattbritlandRT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise toremember what it's like to teach in the classroom!

20:41:38 @jamesdradburn @ICTmagic we don;t get anything on Early years!!! #ukedchat

20:41:39 @Greig_City

@TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it?http://t.co/71q6srzP

@TESConnect @GuardianJobs :@TimesEd

#UKEdChat

20:41:39 @nickotkdIVRT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use#ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:41:44 @IsobelFeaver@jamesdradburn Peer mentoring, calculated CD opps, free time, supportivemanagement...shall I go on? #ukedchat

20:41:47 @DJTom3 @davidhunter sorry what do you mean. #ukedchat

20:41:49 @emmaannhardyRT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat only join senior management if you promise toremember what it's like to teach in the classroom!

20:41:49 @tonyparkin@mberry: "important that trainee/all teachers remember what it was like to be a child.#ukedchat < but also how & when NOT to be childish?:)

20:41:51 @alexgingell@jamesdradburn nope. Doesn't make you a better teacher, but perhaps a betterlearner, which is important! ??not sure! #ukedchat

20:41:52 @tutor2u_econRT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use#ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:41:53 @ICTmagic@GeorgeEBlack Yes, I have to say I know little about private schools. I would beinterested to know. #ukedchat

20:41:58 @ilovemathsgamesRT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use#ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:42:01 @ukedchat RT @keilystrett: #ukedchat the process of planning and outcomes & not activities, wehave lots of students still not focusing on objectives

20:42:03 @HilaryNunns Assertiveness is crucial. Knowledge of additional support, pedagogy. Did I mention I'm

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speaking at Ed Show tomorrow? #ukedchat

20:42:03 @MrsBlurt#ukedchat My advice would be to learn to teach Latin because that's going to be mynext big idea. xx Mrs Blurt

20:42:22 @anhalf@GeographyCarrie combo of taught and placements ideally..practise bettr thantheory,but nd suport in training #ukedchat

20:42:24 @trisha_telfer@PhilWheeler1 - oh believe me, our tutor @JanieT56 is trying to get us all on twitter

and #ukedchat! It's a fab way to learn from the best!20:42:27 @susanbanister @tonyparkin @mberry What happened to you Tony? ;) #ukedchat

20:42:28 @OmarKettlewell@KempsterD Do some teachers not do this? Not all trainees 'look down' on themeither! #ukedchat

20:42:33 @ICTmagic@jamesdradburn @BenRogersOVA @GeorgeEBlack An understanding of wherechildren have come from and will be going is vital. #ukedchat

20:42:36 @ethinking#ukedchat students need to know there are no absolute right agendas - its all shadesof grey driven by ideologies & politics

20:42:37 @mberry@mikallaane Consistency is less important than excellence. There's little consistencywhen it comes to school based placements. #ukedchat

20:42:50 @ethinkingRT @alexgingell: @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and insch, you must want to learn and develop too! #ukedchat

20:42:52 @eslweb@MrsBlurt Don't worry Google Translate has a Latin section and our friend Govedoesn't know much about ICT. ;) #ukedchat

20:42:58 @oldandrewuk@davidhunter #ukedchat Why? Are they not going to have teachers in the future?Autonomy is an excuse for dumbing down: http://t.co/3jKHagJi

20:43:18 @anhalfRT @PhilWheeler1: New teachers should be forced to have a Twitter account and use#ukedchat weekly. No other training nationwide should be on Thursdays.

20:43:29 @TeacherToolkitKeep learning #UKEdChat

Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year.

20:43:31 @jamesdradburnRT @ethinking: #ukedchat students need to know there are no absolute right agendas- its all shades of grey driven by ideologies & politics

20:43:32 @mr_lewandowskiRT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat New teachers need to be told the truth about behaviour,not lies about being nice or making lessons interesting.

20:43:40 @MrWickensPE RT @trisha_telfer: @PhilWheeler1 - oh believe me, our tutor @JanieT56 is trying toget us all on twitter and #ukedchat! It's a fab way to learn from the best!

20:43:41 @GeographyCarrieRT @TeacherToolkit: Keep learning #UKEdChat

Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year.

20:43:42 @ann_beck@susanbanister I totally agree - the world has changed and education shld evolve 2take account of it #ukedchat

20:43:45 @TeacherToolkit

RT @Greig_City: @TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it?http://t.co/71q6srzP


#UKEdChat

20:43:46 @OmarKettlewell#ukedchat I'm worried!! Sounds like there is a lot of doubt and concern amongstteachers with trainee teachers from tonight.

20:43:47 @jamesdradburnRT @alexgingell: @jamesdradburn ...engage with professional discourse at uni and insch, you must want to learn and develop too! #ukedchat

20:43:50 @mberry@tonyparkin Amazing thing about U/G course is transition from pupil to teacher inthree years. Asks a lot, but wonderful to behold #ukedchat

20:44 @eslweb@oldandrewuk @mr_lewandowski I agree, that's why so many teacher trainees reallydrop out. #ukedchat

20:44:01 @DJTom3@oldandrewuk ok fair enough but a few changes have come and a few might be onthe way. Ok. #ukedchat

20:44:17 @jamesdradburn @alexgingell @ethinking I want to learn hence this #ukedchat :)

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20:44:19 @GeekPeter

RT @Greig_City: @TeacherToolkit: AST in Maths @Greig_City - Fancy it?http://t.co/71q6srzP


#UKEdChat

20:44:19 @oldandrewuk@super_sixfive @behavioura @claireothacehe #ukedchat So just to check, it is anattempt to manipulate?

20:44:21 @susanbanister @ann_beck Every day is a learning day for us all #ukedchat

20:44:33 @ICTmagicLearn classroom management, yes, but also a greater focus on managing problemswith friendships/playground issues. All related! #ukedchat

20:44:36 @jamesdradburn @IsobelFeaver please do #ukedchat :)

20:44:36 @MrWickensPEAll trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt so much in the last year dueto it. #ukedchat

20:44:44 @BenRogersOVA @TeacherToolkit Do you re-invent yourself, or do the kids re-invent you? #ukedchat

20:44:47 @tonyparkinRT @susanbanister: @tonyparkin @mberry What happened to you Tony? ;)#ukedchat < I have a portrait in the attic you wouldn't believe :D

20:44:48 @anhalfRT @GeographyCarrie RT @TeacherToolkit: Keep learning #UKEdChat

Teaching 20 years. I re-invent myself every year. < agree

20:44:48 @heartofsolRT @EmSnaps: NQTs should hold onto the reason they entered education: kids. Easyto lose sight of this because of external factors #ukedchat

20:44:48 @OmarKettlewellRT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt somuch in the last year due to it. #ukedchat

20:44:54 @emmaannhardy @TeacherToolkit agreed! #ukedchat

20:45 @mberry@_Matt_Buxton_ 'instead'? Ha! 'as well'! ;-) Just think it'd be nice to get youresearching something you were interested in. #ukedchat

20:45 @nohandsupDeveloping a critical awareness of ed policy and approaches. Rather than followingblindly #ukedchat

20:45:06 @mikallaane #ukedchat @EmSnaps Do all teacher trainees come into education for the children. Iknow plenty who have left after a year

20:45:13 @GeorgeEBlack@jamesdradburn @ICTmagic @BenRogersOVA I have started doing some of thework I set myself, invaluable training in lesson planning #ukedchat

20:45:17 @oldandrewuk@BehaviourA #ukedchat Really? When I do bad things it's not for a reason other thanpersonal weakness. None of us are saints.

20:45:21 @jamesdradburn@MrWickensPE this has helped me so much - given opportunities such as this#ukedchat I feel like I have grown as a trainee teacher

20:45:24 @DKeano1985@eslweb yes I agree in that sense. Done well PPT can be valuable but not exhaustive.Seen some awful presentations as of late #ukedchat

20:45:25 @PeterBone1@ukedchat Self care. So many trainee and first-few-years teachers knock themselvesout. Learn to be in it for the long haul! #ukedchat

20:45:28 @mikeatedji

@oldandrewuk THere is clearly some hierarchy in thought but who says what is the

best that's been thought? Whose list? #ukedchat

20:45:35 @anhalf@OmarKettlewell i hav a trainee..can't wait 4 her return..gr8 opp to share and learn2gthr #ukedchat

20:45:47 @KempsterD@OmarKettlewell Agree. But it should be something that is part of the training.Relationships. #ukedchat

20:45:48 @nohandsup Learning about professional behaviours in the educational workplace? #ukedchat

20:45:50 @nightzookeeperTecahers should learn how to develop independent learning skills in students. This canbe difficult to teach #ukedchat

20:45:53 @jamesdradburnlast 15 min of #ukedchat What are the top tips can you give for trainee teacher?#ukedchat

20:45:59 @oldandrewuk@claireothacehe #ukedchat Why do we need a positive approach to things that arewrong that we want to stop?

20:46:02 @tonyparkin @susanbanister and no levity, please, Ms Banister... this is #ukedchat#naughtytablebeckons

20:46:04 @susanbanister @PeterBone1 @ukedchat True use your PLN on twitter to share the load #ukedchat

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20:46:15 @mberry@ethinking time to break that particular vicious circle. Some of our best have beenTAs, and have started to think for themselves. #ukedchat

20:46:15 @joanne_rich@BenRogersOVA @teachertoolkit If you're a reflective practitioner then possibly a bitof both #ukedchat

20:46:18 @nickotkdIV@simcloughlin yeah! I used voice recording quite a bit and video occasionally. mayhave to do it a little more again. #ukedchat

20:46:18 @davidhunter @oldandrewuk no. It lies at the heart of self-motivation #ukedchat

20:46:19 @OmarKettlewell@heartofsol @EmSnaps #ukedchat Does this 'loss of enthusiasm' not happen toteachers?Or are people entering the profession who 'don't care'?

20:46:20 @IsobelFeaver@davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat Personalised learning is ascomplex or as simple as you want to make it. Just make it effective

20:46:23 @madlizz@StrictTeacher99 #ukedchat I agree!! Sounds like you're having similar experiencesto us!

20:46:31 @jamesdradburn@anhalf @OmarKettlewell you sound like the perfect teacher to have as a mentor inschool! #ukedchat

20:46:36 @nickotkdIV@simcloughlin Although youtube/skype etc is s super tool for this and they alwaysseem to do a better job then me! #ukedchat

20:46:36 @eslweb@DKeano1985 I have 0% tolerence for rubbish PPT...Apparently what I did during 1PGCE lecture will go down in legend at Sunderland #ukedchat

20:46:36 @GeographyCarrie@DKeano1985 We were made to do an PPT-free observation lesson when training.Invaluable as it stops you relying on it #ukedchat

20:46:37 @benniekara @PeterBone1 #UKEdChat agreed - burn out needs to be eliminated!

20:46:39 @BenRogersOVART @nightzookeeper: Tecahers should learn how to develop independent learningskills in students. This can be difficult to teach #ukedchat

20:46:39 @HilaryNunnsRT @susanbanister: When you are in the classroom, you will make the difference notthe school/govt policy #ukedchat

20:46:51 @joelittlewood @susanbanister: @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat too true

20:46:51 @joelittlewood @susanbanister: @ethinking PGCE is a mental course #ukedchat too true

20:47:04 @EmSnapsTrainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the endof every day! #ukedchat

20:47:04 @EmSnapsTrainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and a wish at the end

of every day! #ukedchat

20:47:05 @RWM_LearningLab@MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. Itshould be a 'steep learning curve'. #ukedchat Agreed

20:47:05 @RWM_LearningLab@MrWickensPE: Allow student teachers to make mistakes and do not spoon feed. Itshould be a 'steep learning curve'. #ukedchat Agreed

20:47:07 @Starshine_Music@mberry @ste_kins totally agree. Good teaching should be about inspiring youngminds to enquire #ukedchat

20:47:07 @Starshine_Music@mberry @ste_kins totally agree. Good teaching should be about inspiring youngminds to enquire #ukedchat

20:47:09 @syded06@IsobelFeaver @davidhunter @oldandrewuk and I definitely think technology ismaking it easier #ukedchat

20:47:12 @BobbyCarrot8RT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt somuch in the last year due to it. #ukedchat

20:47:18 @MrPHornerLearn to network, seek out best practice, make use of collaborative tech to achievethis if needs be. #ukedchat

20:47:18 @MrWickensPE@jamesdradburn and what a great opportunity to host #ukedchat Great for makingconnections.

20:47:35 @nohandsupSorry if this sounds terribly boring - I have developed my teaching and myunderstanding simply through reading more ed research #ukedchat

20:47:41 @ICTmagicNew (& old) teachers must realise that learning happens everywhere. Jump onopportunities. Follow their interests & be curious. #ukedchat

20:47:42 @mberry@susanbanister one of the reasons I became a teacher in the first place. I think manystill see this as important. #ukedchat @HilaryNunns

20:47:43 @GeographyCarrieRT @EmSnaps: Trainee teachers should self assess like their pupils! Two stars and awish at the end of every day! #ukedchat < Like this alot

20:47:50 @davidhunter RT @IsobelFeaver: @davidhunter @oldandrewuk @syded06 #ukedchat Personalisedlearning is as complex or as simple as you want to make it. Just make it effective

20:47:54 @susanbanister @EmSnaps We all should self assess like that! #ukedchat

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20:47:57 @BenRogersOVA@nightzookeeper I have asked teachers and students to give short cpd presentationson how to encourage indep learning this month. #ukedchat

20:48:08 @jamesdradburnRT @MrWickensPE: All trainee teachers should be on Twitter for CPD. Learnt somuch in the last year due to it. #ukedchat

20:48:11 @emmaannhardy@DJTom3 @oldandrewuk Social attitudes change - they don't stay the same and thatneed to be reflected in schools - homophobia etc. #ukedchat

20:48:13 @oldandrewuk @davidhunter #ukedchat Which is, by definition, something that we can't teach.

20:48:15 @raisechildrens@PeterBone1 I agree it's so easy to get burnt out, time mgt is a critical thing to learnwhen teaching #ukedchat

20:48:22 @OmarKettlewell@jamesdradburn @anhalf Definitely cant argue with that! Tchrs nd to support students2! You cn help shape the future of education! #ukedchat

20:48:25 @joelittlewoodRT @Costa_Man1: @McGuinness1 good teachers should take risks - well done andkeep taking them #ukedchat

20:48:26 @Miss_JLoves @jamesdradburn I'd feel quite inhibited being on placement with a peer! #ukedchat

20:48:30 @mberry @Starshine_Music ditto good teacher training. @ste_kins #ukedchat

20:48:30 @KempsterD@oldandrewuk I was taught a fact at school. There are nine planets in the solarsystem. Now that's not true. Lie? #ukedchat

20:48:34 @ruthy2#ukedchat Trainee teachers should be encouraged to spend some of their non contact

time watching others teach in all different key stages.20:48:38 @joelittlewood RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat... an untucked shirt really didn't matter.

20:48:55 @GeorgeEBlack they should all be told about #ukedchat :) Invaluable CPD

20:48:56 @Lynnewin100 I keep forgetting to add the #ukedchat

20:48:56 @joanne_rich @EmSnaps Brilliant, perhaps we should all give that a go #ukedchat

20:49:02 @MrPHornerIf none of your mentors have insisted upon it, the suggest videoing yourself teachingand watch it back together #ukedchat

20:49:03 @joelittlewoodRT @HilaryNunns: Subject knowledge alone will not be enough to cope with teaching#ukedchat

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