(34) No Topics on Fake Victims_injuries_actors Allowed

No topics on fake victims/injuries/actors allowedBy Ken Doc on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 6:38pm

*** READ THIS BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM *** Based on a poll conducted among

group members, the majority of us, including all admins, agreed on a consensus that

discussions of fake victims, injuries, and actors are debunked effectively and will not be

entertained here. Bringing up topics of this matter will be grounds for thread deletion and/or

removal from the group. Pretty much the only rule here, and no insults, spamming,

advertising, etc. Thanks.

Below are a summary of the poll and its results.

______________________________________________

A poll was posted in this group on whether to allow discussion about "Fake Victims". It was

pinned to the Top of this page for 48 hours and the results were a landslide.

The final tally on May 16th, 2013 at 12:00pm est was YES's - 20 (30.8%) and NO's - 45

(69.2%).

It is in the best interests and Group consensus that "Fake Victims" discussion will no longer

be tolerated in this group. We feel that it is divisive, distracting and discredits all the hard

work researchers have contributed to the page. Not to mention a total lack of respect to the

victims that were injured and killed on that day.

If new evidence does emerge that "Fake Victims" were used in the Boston Bombings, it will

be brought forth and discussed more.

Thank you for being a member of the Boston Marathon Bombing Think Tank.

The Admins.

Source:

Here is the poll:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/138645896321937/143500469169813

Screenshot:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=589221971096356&

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There is another Group that has been created for discussions that do include the possibility

of "Fake Victims". You are all free to join this group if you still wish to discuss it.

Truth Be Told - The Boston Marathon Bombing

http://www.facebook.com/groups/125712067631411/

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Ken Doc There is another Group that has been created for discussions that do

include the possibility of "Fake Victims". You are all free to join this group if you

still wish to discuss it.

Truth Be Told - The Boston Marathon Bombing

http://www.facebook.com/groups/125712067631411/

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May 16, 2013 at 6:39pm · Like · 3

Dany Carmady If anyone with PATIENCE can come assist in this group... it would

be good.

May 16, 2013 at 8:50pm · Like · 1

John Blithe I am all set! I hoping we can now focus on the CIA - FBI links to

family and suspects. And the coverup by government.

May 16, 2013 at 11:16pm · Like · 3

Leisa Irwin Those people try my patience, sorry ;]

May 17, 2013 at 12:17am · Like · 2

Dany Carmady Yeah... I'll make a last ditch effort but I can't be responsible for

evidence people won't look at.

May 17, 2013 at 12:23am · Like · 1

Ken Doc I can't do it Dany, sorry.

May 17, 2013 at 12:32am · Like · 1

Nicolas A. Safiannikoff whats up ? appart from a quick 5 hour sleep

May 17, 2013 at 1:22am · Like

Dany Carmady I may hit you up to point me in the right direction for info to share

with them Ken.

May 17, 2013 at 1:24am · Like · 2

Leisa Irwin Looking into WHO propagates the BS!

IT'S a big trail.nothing to expose, but i've got a good quote![from

chemtrailsplanet.net]

cleegnat says:

May 15, 2013 at 7:44 pm

"No offense but this false flag actor Boston Bombing explanation article above, if

true, is so f’ing devious and whack, that I can only compare it to THE TRUMAN

SHOW – because it’s the only way your false flag theory makes sense. These

“actors” at the “false flag” Boston Bombing scene get carted off to a studio and

continue their “false flag” “acting” scenes at the studio with everyone “playing”

their “part” at the “hospital” including victims, husbands, wives, relatives, funeral

home directors, EMT drivers, doctors, nurses, ect, ect, ect, – stop the world I want

to get off now! and I assume at Sandy Hook Elementary, everyone there were

actors, including the “dead” children, their “mothers and fathers”, “teachers”

“police officers” “funeral homes directors”, ect, ect, ect,? Amazing! Come up with

a better more believable story once everyone leaves these “false flag” scenes

because I want to know where the “dead” children are from Sandy Hook and

where these fake Boston Bombing “actor” mother/daughter duo are holed up in

what “fake” hospital in what studio where?"

May 17, 2013 at 2:21am · Like · 2

Marty West Why you still talking bout actors?...let it go.....

May 17, 2013 at 3:26am · Like · 3

Leisa Irwin I was talking about the people who push "actors" actually, Just WHO

is doing this? It's not every day "truthers", imo.

May 17, 2013 at 3:27am · Like · 2

Leisa Irwin hey i think it all brought that kid down, look on his page. Chris is not a

grown man. watch his video to his brother. it's on his page. I feel totally bad. my

eyes make water.

May 17, 2013 at 3:38am · Like · 4

Leisa Irwin I just want to leave him alone. What can he do about any of it? get jeff

to talk to people?

May 17, 2013 at 3:41am · Like · 2

Dany Carmady It's confusing every day truthers though.

May 17, 2013 at 3:46am · Like

Leisa Irwin I'm still formulating an outline of what i see. it is hard to do. look from

up in the sky at the suggested timeline back to these boys coming here.

May 17, 2013 at 3:48am · Like

Leisa Irwin too many questions. like, Who really lived in Cambridge, in the

"dumpy" apartment house?

May 17, 2013 at 3:53am · Like

Leisa Irwin Who rented said apartment? in whose name? who paid for it? I'm

suggesting they did not run their own lives in America.

May 17, 2013 at 3:54am · Like · 1

Leisa Irwin younger was a student. Who paid for him to go to CU?

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Leisa Irwin I just don't think Chris has any answers for us. he knows as much as

we do. that his brother got badly hurt and could have died. he knows that. but

what else could he know, just saiyin'. super saiyin'.

May 17, 2013 at 3:58am · Like · 2

Nicolas A. Safiannikoff thanks for that smart observation Leisa Irwin, thats why i

laugh on people asking him too much questions, what the hell is he suppose to

know ? but i'm sure he has an opinion to share

May 17, 2013 at 4:07am · Like · 1

Dany Carmady Chris is a mega sweetie with a clean heart. I hope he is ok.

May 18, 2013 at 8:05pm · Like · 1

Abu Hassel Dany I can understand the frustration with people blind for evidence.

It's a natural response from a person that has sub come to brainwash. I've been

convincing people for years about the real 9/11 story and most don't even want to

look at evidence. The official 9/11 story is so ridiculous that even the laws of

nature contradict their story, still most don't want to know. When they can fool

90% of the population about the biggest crime of the century, imagine how easy

it is for them to do what they are doing now. The second I found out about the

Boston bombings I knew something was really wrong. When it would have been

a real attack with two bombs of that type, the timing of the explosions would have

been different, the load of the devices would have been different and the casualty

list would have been a lot longer. The man that just got shot and killed is just

another drop in the bucket, of course he was executed but no one will officially

question the official story. We are at war and the enemy is one that comes from

within.

May 22, 2013 at 1:47pm · Like · 1

J Ust Gary Are any of you on the BBFF group? Or have you seen/heard where

they're at with their theories now? I'm on there spectating. And let me just say,

wow.

June 1, 2013 at 8:24pm · Like · 1

John Blithe Let's here it? Many of us are banned from that group, including

myself.

June 1, 2013 at 8:25pm · Like · 2

Dany Carmady Banned for sticking to my guns that Jeff Bauman was a genuine

victim. Ken was pre-banned.... because he's 'that awesome'. Lol.

June 1, 2013 at 8:28pm · Like · 2

J Ust Gary Hopefully they don't have spies here that will report me?! Lol because

it is fascinating to read that groups stuff.

Basically, everything is fake. It's all digital cgi. Jeff wasn't at the game. The crowd

was cgi. The bombing happened on a sound stage with cgi. All the 9/11 victims

were cgi. Basically, everything is cgi except what you see with your own eyes. And

even then, what you see could be fake because there are actors too. They haven't

got into holograms yet I don't think. But that has to be next. good times.

June 1, 2013 at 8:53pm · Like · 4

Lyrantha Jen L lol Those people are cooked.

June 1, 2013 at 8:57pm · Like · 3

Lyrantha Jen L I told you that group was a false flag. They're all stupid to the

exact definition of stupid. They have no capacity for thought, much less critical

thinking, and it's surprising that they even have enough intelligence to just

survive day to day - eating, pooping, avoiding walking into doors. Just dumb as

rocks I tell you

June 1, 2013 at 9:01pm · Like · 4

Dany Carmady I'm sorry but it HAS to be government controlled kooky opposition.

That is WHACKED!!

June 1, 2013 at 9:02pm · Like · 2

Lyrantha Jen L It's really a miracle everyday that they're capable of living.

June 1, 2013 at 9:02pm · Like · 2

Dany Carmady I feel proud I got blocked now

June 1, 2013 at 9:03pm · Like

Leisa Irwin L L

June 1, 2013 at 9:04pm · Like · 1

Leisa Irwin the whole thing is one big lol, somebody has to be "real" because

the boston marathon is "real"! It can't be all CGI Is only the here and now "real"?

I'm reading this, I'm typing this, is it live, or...?

June 1, 2013 at 9:08pm · Like · 1

Dany Carmady They cannot be genuine in any way shape or form. Government

PsyOp all the way. IMHO

June 1, 2013 at 9:09pm · Like · 1

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Leisa Irwin To make you think that NONE of it is doctored is surely the goal.

Some of it may be. Who knows 'cept them that did it?

June 1, 2013 at 9:10pm · Like · 1

Lyrantha Jen L It's a CGI within a CGI within a CGI. It's multiple levels, you see.

June 1, 2013 at 9:20pm · Like · 1

Lyrantha Jen L C G I C E P T I O N

June 1, 2013 at 9:20pm · Like · 2

Amanda Sedell ^^^ ̂YO HAVE ME ROLLIN

June 1, 2013 at 9:49pm · Like

Amanda Sedell "eating, pooping, avoiding walking into doors "

aaaaahahahahaha

June 1, 2013 at 9:50pm · Like · 1

Kingsley V Evans I'm proud to say I'm banned from the 'Boston False Flag'

group. I've got pictures of things like Carlos with lots of blood on his trousers, Jeff

Bauman in shorts (with legs), and I don't know if I should post them here.

June 7, 2013 at 5:50am · Like · 3

Amanda Sedell We already have seen them. No need:) are they STILL on that?

They havent found the truth of it. They literally make it up as they go. And ppl

follow this. Just let that sink in......

June 7, 2013 at 9:58am · Like

Kingsley V Evans On another group, when I respond to proven disinformation

they will post more proven disinformation as a punishment. They don't care of it's

repeating the same old lies, they just want to mess people up for being un

brainwashed.

June 7, 2013 at 2:39pm · Like · 1

Christopher Kairnes I don't know how I ended up in any of these groups,

including this one. I must have said something to warrant my involuntary

enlistment. As far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter if there were actors on

scene or not. I have seen some pretty incredible videos, which made me

question every angle of that event.

The end result is the important thing and that is all that matters. The criminal de

facto federal government is going to continue to carry out it's insidious agenda

regardless. Martial law and/or violent revolution/ civil war is in Our future.

The bottom line is I don't trust anyone, especially the criminal de facto federal

government.

Believe what you will, just be prepared for the worst.

June 10, 2013 at 8:01pm · Like · 3

Kingsley V Evans If you don't trust anyone then I guess you must have played

'count the mind control methods' in all those videos that tell you what to see

before they show you traumatising pictures huh?

June 11, 2013 at 3:20am · Like · 1

J Ust Gary Lulz on these last 2 comments. Peek a boo

June 11, 2013 at 4:27am · Like

Kyle Sebastian I got a question, what are we allowed to talk about here?

June 20, 2013 at 5:55am · Like

Ken Doc Anything related to Boston that does not include the disinfo claims of

"fake victims/injuries/actors".

As clearly stated in this document.

June 20, 2013 at 11:10am · Like

Anthony Jacob Woolston So we aren't allowed to talk about fake victims even

though the entire event was filled with fake victims and crisis actors?

June 20, 2013 at 11:25am · Like · 1

Anthony Jacob Woolston Looks like I'll have to talk about fake vcitims and crisis

actors in this group. I don't deal with rules, definetly when the rules tell me I

cannot bring up a certain issue when I have the right to speak about it

everywhere!

June 20, 2013 at 11:25am · Like · 1

Kingsley V Evans You lost your rights when your fellow malicious liars abused

them and tried to over run every group which allowed all 'viewpoints' whilst

banning genuine researchers on their own. Deal with it.

June 20, 2013 at 11:46am · Like

Anthony Jacob Woolston No I did not loose my rights. I am excersising my right

of freedom of speech, therefor I have it.

June 20, 2013 at 11:48am · Like

Anthony Jacob Woolston There were fake victims and crisis actors at the

boston bombing the entire thing was a false flag event. I doubt the bombing even

happened at all. IT is so easy for the media to manipulate everyones

pecerception.

June 20, 2013 at 11:49am · Like · 2

Dwight MC Anthony, you have the right to remain stupid. Everything violating our

rules can and will be used to boot you. You better take the fifth.

June 20, 2013 at 11:49am · Like · 1

Ken Doc You see Anthony, this is OUR group, not YOUR group. If you can't abide

by OUR rules..... then GTFO.

June 20, 2013 at 11:51am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Sorry, I didn't explain myself thoroughly enough, you're in the

scum ghetto along with Westbro Baptist church. No reasonable person believes

what you're saying, so don't expect to be treated as an equal by people with

integrity.

June 20, 2013 at 11:52am · Edited · Like · 1

Kingsley V Evans You don't keep your right to free speech by repeatedly telling

children it's safe to get into stranger's cars and using every mind control method

at your disposal whilst your doing it. The same applies to an attempt to say there

was a multi billion dollar MK experiment at Boston and it was perfectly safe.

Occam's razor says the real MK op is you.

June 20, 2013 at 12:11pm · Like · 1

Dwight MC How stupid are these 'don't infringe on my first amendment' people?

You don't have the right to exercise your freedom of speech on someone else's

property against the will of it's owner.

June 20, 2013 at 1:25pm · Like · 2

Kingsley V Evans If 'free speech' meant searching for photosensitive epilepsy

sufferers and following them around with strobe lights and calling yourselves

'the real epileptics' whilst you were doing it, people wouldn't want 'free speech'.

All rights are conditional. Reasonable vigilance can over ride them as well as

tyrants.

June 20, 2013 at 2:11pm · Like · 1

Kyle Sebastian Is anyone able to inform me on things that isn't related to "fake

victims/injuries/actors"? I am new here.

June 20, 2013 at 3:00pm · Like · 1

Amanda Sedell This whole page bro. Look around.

June 20, 2013 at 6:39pm · Like · 2

Tyranny Gofukyoself How can you call this a "Think Tank" and then ban talk of

actors? OH wait, this is a KEN DOC Group...now I understand...

July 4, 2013 at 5:47pm · Like

Amanda Sedell Its called LOGIC. See ya!

July 4, 2013 at 5:56pm · Like · 1

Ken Doc "Ken Doc Groups" don't promote disinfo. Beat it.

July 4, 2013 at 6:40pm · Like · 5

Roger Hyde I do wish all these trolls would stay under their bridges.....

July 16, 2013 at 2:44am · Like · 2

Robin Justice Lyrantha Jen L; AT LAST!!!! Thank you for being the voice of reason

and intelligence. It is a refreshing change from what goes on so often, not only

here but elsewhere.

October 5, 2013 at 8:33pm · Like

Gary Tokar If you truly believe that no victims were fake how do you explain Jeff

bauman? The man had both legs blown off survived well over 5 mins without

medical help? Also was the black woman near him taken first when his injuries

were worse? Also why was she taken on a stretcher and Bauman taken in a

wheelchair? I am no doctor and I would no better than to do that. I think you are

doing people a huge disservice by refusing to speak about this. It has not been

debunked. If you were really after the truth you would turn over every stone no

matter how implausible.

October 15, 2013 at 11:55pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian I watched the news on this. There wasn't a single news station

that had the same story of events as to what happened. I remember it starting

out as a bomb and ending as a pressure cooker. Like seriously? You gotta be

really fucking dumb to believe it was real.

October 15, 2013 at 11:58pm · Like · 1

Robin Justice The bomb's major component was a pressure cooker. It was one

and the same. How obtuse must one be to understand that? <Head Smack>

Obviously someone who has never ever seen an IED in his life.

October 16, 2013 at 3:29am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Geoff Bauman was conscious and applying pressure to slow

his bleeding. There were a lot of medics close by because it was at the finish

line. I think a lot of people have survived losing both legs with less immediate

medical attention. The actors theorists (I should say dogmatists actually

because I've yet to meet one who can be reasoned with) said Geoff was Nick

Vogt one day, then they said Nick Vogt could not exist because he would have

died when he lost his legs. Why aren't they accusing each other?

October 16, 2013 at 6:01am · Like

Gary Tokar That is not true. I watched the footage from the explosion and he was

NOT receiving any kind of medical attention for atleast 5 mins. There is no way

someone could survive a double amputation that long without medical help. He

would have lost a massive amount of blood. And no he wasnt applying any kind

of pressure to his leg. I saw all the photos of people milling about not even

paying attention to him. Like I said there was a black woman who received

attention before he did as well a stretcher and Bauman gets a wheelchair. That

is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. You cannot sit someone upright who is

bleeding out below the waist and expect them to survive well over 5 mins without

medical attention. Actors were used, sorry if you can't accept it. If the bomb was

powerful enough to kill people yet couldnt break the second pane of glass on the

Lenscrafters store? Finally if so many people lost limbs in the bombing why is

there only one photo that I have seen with an amputated limb? Dozens of people

supposedly lost limbs that day there should have been limbs all over the place

and there was not.

October 16, 2013 at 9:14am · Like · 1

Kingsley V Evans It's possible that you don't know injuries to the torso could

have triage priorities over injuries to the legs, and it's possible that you don't

know where the femoral artery is which was where Geoff was pressing when he

was holding a leg, but if you believe no one ever survived losing both legs in an

explosion, when they do, even when they lose their legs above the knee so

bleeding would be heavier, then 'sorry if you can't accept it' as you said. You're

not going to waste any more of my time.

October 16, 2013 at 11:50am · Like

Gary Tokar Bauman was not applying pressure to his wound he was putting on

prosthetics. also he would have lost consciousness from shock and bloodloss.

the woman that was taken away on a stretcher before Bauman also lost a leg.

She did not have a torso injury. yes you can survive a catastrophic double

amputation if you receive immediate medical attention. This did not happen in

Baumans case. The man rolls around on the ground for 5 mins while everyone

around ignores him, than he is put into a wheelchair which would exacerbate his

bleeding since his wounds are below the waist. Any first year med student can

tell you that. You are wasting my time with your naivety

October 16, 2013 at 12:01pm · Like

Dwight MC Jeff was putting on prosthetics? Gary, show us one photo of Jeff

without his legs before the Marathon.

October 16, 2013 at 12:19pm · Like

Robin Justice Gary; It is rather difficult to take you seriously when you can't even

read or comprehend the rules clearly stated at the very beginning of this thread.

"BRINGING UP TOPICS OF THIS NATURE WILL BE GROUNDS FOR THREAD

DELETION AND/OR REMOVAL FROM THE GROUP. PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY

RULE HERE." What did you do, fall down and smack your little head on the

pavement? Why don't you stop wasting all of our time with this pathetic drivel? If

you simply cannot help yourself from espousing this sort of naïve idiotic garbage

about the victims, go do it somewhere where it is wanted and tolerated. For if you

can't soar with the eagles, you might as well fly with the loons.

October 16, 2013 at 12:28pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian I'm pretty sure this is the first group I have never had my name

mentioned or threatened with a ban.

October 16, 2013 at 12:30pm · Like

Kingsley V Evans I agree, it's pathetic drivel. Looked at all the footage and never

saw a tourniquet? It's time wasting at best.

October 16, 2013 at 12:31pm · Like

Robin Justice Kyle; I did not mention your name at all, only Gary's. But if the shoe

fits.

October 16, 2013 at 12:33pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian Usually the shoe fits with me. I just wanted to state I am proud of

myself for being in a group this long without being banned

October 16, 2013 at 12:34pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian You all are a great group of people!

October 16, 2013 at 12:34pm · Like

Gary Tokar Show me one person that had a similar injury such as Bauman and

survived. Also If so many people lost limbs that day the street and sidewalk

would have been covered with them and they were not. It is hard to take you

seriously when you will not follow the truth wherever it goes or no matter how

crazy it sounds. Calling me pathetic or a loon is an ad-hominem attack since you

cant refute what I say

October 16, 2013 at 12:35pm · Like

Gary Tokar If no actors were used,Robin Justice what do you think happened?

October 16, 2013 at 12:36pm · Like

Robin Justice Gary: You said, "Finally if so many people lost limbs in the

bombing, why is there only one photo that I have seen with an amputated limb?

Dozens of people supposedly lost limbs that day there should have been limbs

all over the place and there was not." You seem to be blithely unaware that any

and all limbs are not severed on the spot. A limb can be so badly mangled, its

vessels shredded, its blood supply irreparably compromised, that the full

amputation is done surgically at the hospital, AFTER the bombing. Therefore, no

"limbs all over the place." Also, it was not "dozens of people who lost limbs that

day." It was 16. Get your facts straight. Un-frigging-believable.

October 16, 2013 at 12:41pm · Like

Dwight MC Gary, your raising of questions that have been answered repeatedly a

long time ago is appreciated here. You will have to do some research yourself.

October 16, 2013 at 12:42pm · Like · 1

Gary Tokar I understand that but where were Baumans legs? There is not one

pic of legs anywhere near him or anyone elses for that matter. I have done my

research and that is my conclusion. What about the man in the sunglasses near

Bauman That was barely injured or the people with "shrapnel" holes in their

clothing but no wounds? So if no actors were used what do you suggest

happened? No one here has offered me any proof no actors were used, jus ad

hominem attacks on me.

October 16, 2013 at 12:48pm · Like

Amanda Sedell yes there is

October 16, 2013 at 12:49pm · Like

Amanda Sedell i guess you didnt look hard enough we've researched this

extensively go through it ^^^

October 16, 2013 at 12:49pm · Like · 1

Amanda Sedell http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-8.jpg

October 16, 2013 at 12:54pm · Like

Robin Justice Gary; No attacks on you. Just asking that you have the decency to

abide by the stated rules (rule actually) of the group. Why is that asking so much

of you? Do the rules not apply to you for some strange reason? If so, that is very

disrespectful to the group. But then again, if you don't respect the victims, why

should you respect the clearly stated rule or any of us?

October 16, 2013 at 12:55pm · Like

Gary Tokar Show me. All everyone has done was tell me that it has been

debunked yet offer no proof of it.

October 16, 2013 at 1:00pm · Like

Amanda Sedell there is entire files up there ^^^^

October 16, 2013 at 1:01pm · Like

Amanda Sedell go to another group if you wish to talk this non sense disinfo

STILL

October 16, 2013 at 1:01pm · Like · 1

Gary Tokar I am asking for the proof you guys claim to have seen and you cant

show

October 16, 2013 at 1:02pm · Like

Ken Doc Stop wasting your time on people like Gary. I just banned him.

Obviously he cannot read the rules here.

October 16, 2013 at 1:03pm · Like · 1

Amanda Sedell

October 16, 2013 at 1:04pm · Like · 1

Kingsley V Evans I said I wasn't going to waste any more time on it, so thanks for

making that easier.

October 16, 2013 at 1:06pm · Like

Robin Justice Gary; If you care so much to see the proof, then take the time to go

back over the threads of this group. No one here owes you their time or effort.

Besides, you repeatedly claim ad nauseum that you do your own research. So,

go do it already. Enough is enough.

October 16, 2013 at 1:11pm · Like

Robin Justice Thanks, Ken! It was really trying patience to have a bartender hold

forth like an expert on medical and forensic information.

October 16, 2013 at 1:12pm · Like

Robin Justice Kyle; Just curious. Do you usually get banned from groups for

some unknown reason?

October 16, 2013 at 1:17pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian No, I wasn't serious about that.

October 16, 2013 at 1:21pm · Like

Kyle Sebastian I'm in so many groups It's even hard sometimes to keep up with

all the notifications.

October 16, 2013 at 1:21pm · Like

Robin Justice Good to know. Thanks!

October 16, 2013 at 1:22pm · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд of cousrse they were fake it would take a really dumb person

not to see the fake blood

October 29, 2013 at 6:04am · Like

Алия Царнаевд it was an inside job everyone knows that but not everyone

shows it

October 29, 2013 at 6:04am · Like

Kingsley V Evans No, it would take a really dumb person to look at a tiny minority

of photos where the colour has been turned up by newspapers and say that

means more than most of the unedited pictures where the blood looks real.

Also, clotting blood can look bright and pale anyway.

October 29, 2013 at 6:09am · Like

Алия Царнаевд so you believe Jahar's guilty then Kingsley V Evans ?

October 29, 2013 at 6:13am · Like

Алия Царнаевд because i'd love to know why?!

October 29, 2013 at 6:14am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Don't tell me what I believe. Where did I say real injuries

means Jahar did it?

October 29, 2013 at 6:15am · Like

Алия Царнаевд well it usually does and i'm saying what you believe im asking

October 29, 2013 at 6:16am · Like

Алия Царнаевд *not saying asking

October 29, 2013 at 6:16am · Like

Алия Царнаевд it's weird how those who think he's guilty don't actually admit it

October 29, 2013 at 6:17am · Like

Robin Justice If you are intelligent enough to speak 7 languages at age 15, then

you should be able to clearly read the rule above that says "No topics on fake

victims/injuries/actors allowed. Bringing up topics of this matter will be grounds

for thread deletion and/or removal from the group."

October 29, 2013 at 6:17am · Like

Алия Царнаевд fine and i'm not 15...i'm trying to speak truth for my friend who's

being falsely accused of something he couldn't have done! because he wouldn't

even touch a fly delete me if you want but i won't let you tell me or post that my

friend is guilty or post evidence suggesting he is!!!

October 29, 2013 at 6:21am · Like

Robin Justice Well, your own profile states your birthday as 1998 so you might

want to start with the truth there for starters. I assumed you were telling the truth

about that simple fact of life.

October 29, 2013 at 6:26am · Edited · Like

Kingsley V Evans Well I get very angry about the way people close to Jahar got

taken in by BS about fake blood, from prats who iether never saw arterial blood

on a road to know what it looks like, or just didn't care. It discredits Jahar's

supporters.

October 29, 2013 at 6:24am · Like

Robin Justice You are entitled to your opinion. However, this page only has the

one rule and it applies to everyone, including you. How can you expect anyone to

take you seriously when you start off acting as if the page rules don't apply to you

for some inexplicable reason?

October 29, 2013 at 6:25am · Like

Алия Царнаевд don't stalk my profile and what was that about people close to

Jahar?

October 29, 2013 at 6:27am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i respect that but don't show evidence that points towards jahar

being guilty

October 29, 2013 at 6:27am · Like

Robin Justice I didn't "stalk" anything. It's there for anyone to view.

October 29, 2013 at 6:28am · Like

Алия Царнаевд okay but you don't know me

October 29, 2013 at 6:28am · Like

Kingsley V Evans I didn't stalk you're profile. If you think they arested the wrong

person, look for things which will stand up in court, and pay attention when

people are discussing things, for and against.

October 29, 2013 at 6:29am · Like

Robin Justice You are right. I do not. However, I do know that you are breaking

the rules that you seem to think are supposed to apply to anyone but you. Why is

that?

October 29, 2013 at 6:29am · Like

Алия Царнаевд I don't and idont think you understand what I am trying to say

October 29, 2013 at 6:31am · Like

Алия Царнаевд by saying all this stuff you making it as if jahar is guilty

October 29, 2013 at 6:31am · Like

Robin Justice The start of this thread not only clearly states the rules but also

states that there is another group where this sort of "fake victims" nonsense is

up for discussion.

October 29, 2013 at 6:31am · Like

Алия Царнаевд nonsence?

October 29, 2013 at 6:31am · Like

Robin Justice Yes, nonsense. The victims and their injuries are very real.

October 29, 2013 at 6:32am · Like

Robin Justice To say otherwise is denying reality.

October 29, 2013 at 6:32am · Like

Алия Царнаевд reality??? if you want to talk reality then lets start...because that

is not reality! reality is accusing a 20 year old and shooting at him when he's

unarmed Boston armed forces should be ashamed of themselves what an

embarrassment and taking the life of an innocent man taking a mothers children

away from her than accusing the person they've murdered for crimes that can 't

be arsed to solve! that's the truth of todays reality and to be fair it makes me sick!

October 29, 2013 at 6:35am · Like

Robin Justice You mentioned that Jahar is "your friend." Do you actually know

him personally? Because there are many people who also know the victims and

their families as well and to say that they and their injuries are fake shows a

serious lack of empathy and decency on the part of anyone saying such things.

October 29, 2013 at 6:35am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Carlos Arredondo is awesome. I don't trust people who say

he's a fake. I can understand it if they watched some dodgy youtube films whilst

they were hysterical because they love Jahar, but it doesn't mean they're telling

the truth, it means they saw some lies that messed them up whilst they were

vulnerable.

October 29, 2013 at 6:35am · Like

Robin Justice If we don't know for a fact yet that he is guilty, how can you know for

a fact yet that he is innocent? Just because you know someone doesn't mean

that they could not be capable of doing terrible acts. If that was so, no murderers

would ever have mothers, fathers, siblings, friends, etc., and they do.

October 29, 2013 at 6:38am · Like

Алия Царнаевд of course I do since my childhood!!! how do you think I felt

seeing my best friend on TV being shot everywhere!!! and i don't have no

remorse for the victims because no one shows remorse towards Jahar or

Tamerlan people continue be conditioned by the media and believe whatever

they drain into your brains

October 29, 2013 at 6:38am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yes actually because I know Jahars true personality

October 29, 2013 at 6:39am · Like

Алия Царнаевд you don't and he wasn't smirking in court his face was like that

because the pricks that shot at him shot through his cheek which meant he had

to have surgery there

October 29, 2013 at 6:39am · Like

Алия Царнаевд he is innocent I know that and so does Allah

October 29, 2013 at 6:41am · Like

Robin Justice Well, that's some moral equivalence you have going there. You

think that the whole world is against Jahar although he has literally thousands of

supporters so you decide to have no empathy for the dead or injured. That

makes no sense whatsoever and is about as cruel and callous an attitude as a

person can have. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such a

despicable thing.

October 29, 2013 at 6:41am · Like

Kingsley V Evans If you really know Jahar then be careful who your friends are,

some of the people who want him blamed are devious and they will pretend to

support him whilst they try to lead you into saying things that embaress the

cause.

October 29, 2013 at 6:43am · Like

Алия Царнаевд I know the supporters ffs! and really I think not! i think the armed

forces that shot at an unarmed teenager should be ashamed then blaming him

for running over his own brother! what bullshit...and it does make sense if no one

even cares about my loved ones then why should I care about theirs!

October 29, 2013 at 6:44am · Like

Robin Justice Your "friend" is still alive. How do you think the families and

friends of the dead victims felt seeing their loved ones caskets being lowered

into the ground? How do you think the family and friends of the injured, especially

the 16 amputees, felt watching the pain and agony of their loved ones' injuries?

Your lack of sympathy for your fellow human beings is appalling.

October 29, 2013 at 6:45am · Like

Robin Justice There were no "armed forces." Armed forces means military. He

was shot at by law enforcement officers.

October 29, 2013 at 6:46am · Like

Kingsley V Evans As far as I know, the best evidence is Jeff Bauman said the

bomber had a 'five o colock shadow' (slightly unshaven) and the pictures of

Tamerlan on the day are clean shaven. In my opinion, that's good evidence to

support Jahar, but it's drowned out by morons who do more harm than good.

October 29, 2013 at 6:47am · Edited · Like

Алия Царнаевд "friend" that's the way you address him?! your such a

hypocrite...and No i don't care the way my people are killed cannot even be

compared to the merely 3 people dying in a blast when thousands die in syria

and palestine why does everyone seem to go blind when that happens?

October 29, 2013 at 6:47am · Like

Robin Justice Why should you care about them? Have you ever heard the term,

"Two wrongs don't make a right?"

October 29, 2013 at 6:47am · Like

Алия Царнаевд because they are people fellow human beings!!! like you said

October 29, 2013 at 6:48am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and they are my people i'm not going to sit here and let them

kill my people!

October 29, 2013 at 6:48am · Like

Robin Justice You are the one who called him your "friend" at the beginning of

this conversation. I was merely referring to him in the exact same way that you

did yourself. Why are you taking offense where none was meant?

October 29, 2013 at 6:49am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Are people who seek the truth and do it honestly your people

as well?

October 29, 2013 at 6:49am · Like

Алия Царнаевд because you put it in speech

October 29, 2013 at 6:50am · Like

Алия Царнаевд like who? Kingsley V Evans ? what o you mean

October 29, 2013 at 6:50am · Like

Robin Justice No one on this thread ever said that what is happening in Syria

and Palestine is moral in any way, shape, or form. I certainly did not nor would I,

ever.

October 29, 2013 at 6:50am · Like

Алия Царнаевд but i'm just stating a point that 3 people ie in Boston an the

whole world seems to care so much but there's thousands of other dying and no

cares as if they are blind to that or something

October 29, 2013 at 6:51am · Like

Robin Justice You said you are not going to "let them kill your people." Who are

you referring to when you say "them?"

October 29, 2013 at 6:52am · Like

Kingsley V Evans I'm wondering who you mean by your people, people with

virtue? people who follow a book? all of humanity? people you agree with? etc.

etc.

October 29, 2013 at 6:52am · Like

Алия Царнаевд muslim people are my people i'm a muslim

October 29, 2013 at 6:52am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and Robin Justice the countries letting it happen

October 29, 2013 at 6:53am · Like

Robin Justice The fact that there were 3 doesn't make their deaths any less

wrong or immoral.

October 29, 2013 at 6:53am · Like

Алия Царнаевд no it doesn't and by the way theres a post on here showing

jahar running without his packpack i wonder what that person's trying to say???

October 29, 2013 at 6:54am · Like

Robin Justice I have no problem with peaceful Muslims whatsoever. I have a

Syrian friend, a Somali friend, Saudi and Afghani friends, amongst others.

October 29, 2013 at 6:54am · Like

Алия Царнаевд good that is good but I don't like it whenever a bombing or

something happens a muslim has to be frame for it

October 29, 2013 at 6:56am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and luckily all the other times i escaped but this time it was

someone who is very close to me which affects me still to this day not knowing

whether i'll get to see him again

October 29, 2013 at 6:56am · Like

Robin Justice I don't care if it is 3 people in Boston, a Pakistani child caught in a

drone strike, Sunnis killing Shiites, an immoral war in Iraq, Saddam gassing the

Kurds, the Soviets invading Afghanistan, Malala Yousafzai being shot in the face

by the Taliban, honor killings, Joseph Kony slaughtering women and children in

Africa, or 19 guys flying planes into building and killing almost 3000, murder is

wrong and immoral, period.

October 29, 2013 at 6:59am · Like

Kingsley V Evans I lived in a British Islamic area for 8 years, I had as many as

three attempts at converting me per day, but never any violence or threats for not

being converted. I think the media give a false impression, muslims can be very

peaceful and live in harmony with everyone else.

October 29, 2013 at 7:00am · Like

Robin Justice What if the Muslim(s) in some cases wasn't framed for it but

actually did it? Even in some cases went public and admitted it, even bragged

about it? What then?

October 29, 2013 at 7:00am · Like

Алия Царнаевд then that's that but it i don't disagree with what they do

October 29, 2013 at 7:01am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and yes Islam is a good religion maybe if you did convert you

realize how peaceful it is...and they don't use this terrorism to convert people they

use it to get a message across to these ignorant people

October 29, 2013 at 7:03am · Like

Robin Justice Why is that? You expect us to condemn any of our people if they

do something wrong but refuse to condemn yours if they do the same? Isn't true

hypocrisy? One set of rules for others and a separate set for you and your

people? Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it and the sooner that good and

moral people realize this and practice it, the world will become a better and safer

place for all of us.

October 29, 2013 at 7:04am · Like

Kingsley V Evans I don't like terrorism. It only takes a few terrorists to give corrupt

democracies an excuse to kill a million peaceful muslims.

October 29, 2013 at 7:05am · Like

Алия Царнаевд maybe if the government listen when they speak there is no

need for bombs but these people are ignorant an don't listen when people

speak out

October 29, 2013 at 7:06am · Like

Robin Justice Are you actually saying above that you agree with Muslim terrorists

killing innocent people? Really? How can you say such a thing?

October 29, 2013 at 7:06am · Like

Robin Justice Which government? The U.S. government?

October 29, 2013 at 7:06am · Like

Алия Царнаевд I have nothing against them...they want to fight for their religion

if they say stop no one listens so i believe that actions speak louder than words

October 29, 2013 at 7:07am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and yes the US government

October 29, 2013 at 7:08am · Like

Robin Justice So what if a group of avowed Muslim terrorists planted a bomb

near your home, school, place of work or went on a shooting spree as in the

Kenyan mall attack last month and killed or seriously injured someone you love

very much? Would you have "nothing against them" then?

October 29, 2013 at 7:09am · Like

Robin Justice Who is it exactly that you think the U.S. government should be

listening to? Americans? Muslims? Muslim Americans? The governments of

other countries? Who?

October 29, 2013 at 7:10am · Like

Алия Царнаевд nope...because if it was the case of the mall I would not be shot

because they told all muslims to leave and i'm a muslim soooo..yeah

October 29, 2013 at 7:11am · Like

Robin Justice Why exactly does any religion have to be "fought for?"

October 29, 2013 at 7:11am · Like

Алия Царнаевд the freedom of people and at the moment it seems to be

muslims only

October 29, 2013 at 7:11am · Like

Robin Justice The mall attack was one case only. What about the other scenario

I asked you about? It's happened in England before. Bombs on the subway and

on buses.

October 29, 2013 at 7:12am · Like

Алия Царнаевд oh yeah 7/7 well in that case I still dont have anything against

them becasue I already know what it's like to lose close people it happened to

me 6 month ago! when I was planning to go back home with them to visit family

an friends and i coulndn't because one was dead and the other could barely talk

October 29, 2013 at 7:15am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Islam as a protection racket for 'people of the book' That

doesn't work anymore, it just gets all muslims killed indescriminately by the

thousands. People should use their heads more and be more careful who they

believe.

October 29, 2013 at 7:15am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yes they should and people should be careful what they accuse

muslims of because if you go a step too far people get killed

October 29, 2013 at 7:16am · Like

Robin Justice So, once again, you are using moral equivalence here and saying

that two wrongs do make a right?

October 29, 2013 at 7:16am · Like

Алия Царнаевд because they do look long term into things

October 29, 2013 at 7:17am · Like

Robin Justice You are really saying that you think that the killing that has already

occurred, mush of it that has been claimed proudly by professed terrorists, is

just fine and dandy with you? Did you always feel this way or just since this past

April?

October 29, 2013 at 7:18am · Like

Алия Царнаевд April, before that i even wanted to go to times square with him

but now I don't even want to set foot on that filthy place

October 29, 2013 at 7:20am · Like

Robin Justice Yes, the U.S. looks "long term into things" as well. Just ask Bin

Laden. Oh, that's right. We can't ask him anything anymore, can we?

October 29, 2013 at 7:20am · Like

Robin Justice Why do you still refer to it as "home" if you feel that way about the

U.S.?

October 29, 2013 at 7:21am · Like

Robin Justice Or "that filthy place?"

October 29, 2013 at 7:21am · Like

Алия Царнаевд home is "chechnya"planning to go back there

October 29, 2013 at 7:21am · Like

Алия Царнаевд an on trip to times square

October 29, 2013 at 7:22am · Like

Robin Justice Why plan on it? Why not just go? Having too much fun enjoying

Western freedoms there in England perhaps?

October 29, 2013 at 7:22am · Like

Алия Царнаевд what?

October 29, 2013 at 7:23am · Like

Алия Царнаевд we were planning on going back to chechnya

October 29, 2013 at 7:23am · Like

Алия Царнаевд then to times square we can't just go because it takes transport

an tickets to get there

October 29, 2013 at 7:24am · Like

Алия Царнаевд you think we were plotting something?

October 29, 2013 at 7:24am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and what is western freedoms in engand?

October 29, 2013 at 7:25am · Like

Robin Justice I thought that you were an architect in Great Britain. That is what

your own profile states. You do know what is on your own profile, don't you?

October 29, 2013 at 7:26am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yep i moved to london about a month ago to ecape all the hate

October 29, 2013 at 7:27am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and reproters and interviews

October 29, 2013 at 7:27am · Like

Kingsley V Evans Britain doesn't have a constitution protecting freedom, it just

has a media that likes to say things that are difficult for politicians etc.

October 29, 2013 at 7:27am · Like

Алия Царнаевд ok but i was escaping form boston not england

October 29, 2013 at 7:28am · Like

Robin Justice So a minute ago, you were confused when I mentioned Western

freedoms in England but now you remember that London is actually in England.

Interesting.

October 29, 2013 at 7:29am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i was asking what you meant by western freedoms/

October 29, 2013 at 7:29am · Like

Robin Justice Did you also work as an architect in Boston?

October 29, 2013 at 7:29am · Like

Robin Justice Great Britain is a Western culture. Therefore, Western freedoms,

just like the U.S. Doesn't anyone take civics class anymore?

October 29, 2013 at 7:30am · Like

Алия Царнаевд ok but i am not free here it's horrible i'm just here for small time

then it depends on what happens to jahar regarding what i will do

October 29, 2013 at 7:32am · Like

Robin Justice If it is horrible, why did you go there? What do you mean, you're not

free? Are you in a British jail or under house arrest? If not, then you are free.

Lastly, why does the outcome for Jahar have so much to do with where you

intend to live and work on a more permanent basis?

October 29, 2013 at 7:35am · Like

Алия Царнаевд to escape i told you already

October 29, 2013 at 7:35am · Like

Robin Justice Were you born in the U.S., Great Britain, Chechnya, or some other

country?

October 29, 2013 at 7:36am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and no i'm not and regarding to outcome if they give jahar death

penulty then i might find myself in the same position

October 29, 2013 at 7:36am · Like

Алия Царнаевд thats just a clue for what i'm going to do

October 29, 2013 at 7:37am · Like

Алия Царнаевд and i was born in chechnya

October 29, 2013 at 7:37am · Like

Robin Justice To escape all the hate, you said. Unless you went around telling

everyone he is your friend, why would anyone even bother you at all?

October 29, 2013 at 7:37am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yes getting hate letters with disrespectful pictures and it's only

reently iv'e been open about knowing him

October 29, 2013 at 7:37am · Like

Robin Justice Why would Jahar's getting the death penalty mean that you would

die? Clarify, please.

October 29, 2013 at 7:38am · Like

Алия Царнаевд something I intend to do

October 29, 2013 at 7:39am · Like

Robin Justice How did the letter senders get your address? What kind of

disrespectful pictures, if you don't mind me asking?

October 29, 2013 at 7:39am · Like

Алия Царнаевд maybe I will be in the position of getting the death penulty or

maybe somethingless

October 29, 2013 at 7:39am · Like

Алия Царнаевд like cartoons of Jahar an his brother and even zubaidat

October 29, 2013 at 7:40am · Like

Robin Justice Are you saying that you intend to kill yourself if he gets the death

penalty? What if he just gets life in prison? I'm intrigued.

October 29, 2013 at 7:40am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i'm saying i will be in a position where people may be deciding

whether i get the death penulty

October 29, 2013 at 7:42am · Like · 1

Robin Justice You fled the country and traveled across the Atlantic Ocean

because of cartoons? Unbelievable.

October 29, 2013 at 7:42am · Like

Robin Justice Well, don't keep us in suspense. What's your big idea?

October 29, 2013 at 7:42am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yes it made me so angry and i used cry myself to sleep i still do

the horrific images of what happen to jahar dont leave my mind

October 29, 2013 at 7:43am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i dont wanna say becasue you will not like at all

October 29, 2013 at 7:43am · Like

Robin Justice You seem awfully angry for a woman.

October 29, 2013 at 7:44am · Like

Robin Justice It doesn't matter if I like it or not. Go ahead and be honest about

how you truly feel.

October 29, 2013 at 7:44am · Like

Алия Царнаевд I am of course angry

October 29, 2013 at 7:44am · Like

Алия Царнаевд you don't agree with this at all i'm not going to say on public

October 29, 2013 at 7:45am · Like

Алия Царнаевд if it gets out then I will be kept an eye on then my plan won't

work

October 29, 2013 at 7:45am · Like

Robin Justice No horrific images about the little 8 year old boy blown to bits

though, huh?

October 29, 2013 at 7:45am · Like

Robin Justice Private message me, then. You don't have to say it publicly at all. I

can respect that.

October 29, 2013 at 7:46am · Like

Алия Царнаевд no of course not just my best friend being covered in blood and

having millions of metal plates in his hand and arm and his face with stitches all

these scars will be there forever they won't go away

October 29, 2013 at 7:46am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд i'm telling you that if i tell you you will report me

October 29, 2013 at 7:47am · Like

Robin Justice No, I won't.

October 29, 2013 at 7:48am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i know you will not like

October 29, 2013 at 7:49am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i think iv'e given enough clues

October 29, 2013 at 7:49am · Like

Алия Царнаевд in the same position that jahar is in now

October 29, 2013 at 7:50am · Like

Алия Царнаевд i can see you message but not reply

October 29, 2013 at 7:52am · Like

Алия Царнаевд one second i have plan

October 29, 2013 at 7:53am · Like

Robin Justice Just type and hit "reply." Are you having computer problems?

October 29, 2013 at 7:54am · Like

Алия Царнаевд yes

October 29, 2013 at 8:00am · Like

Алия Царнаевд later on inshallah will sort out proble,

October 29, 2013 at 8:00am · Like

Robin Justice Not sure what you mean. Can we talk in private or not?

October 29, 2013 at 8:01am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд yes but later and i am recieving messages

October 29, 2013 at 8:03am · Like

Алия Царнаевд we can talk privatly

October 29, 2013 at 8:03am · Like

Алия Царнаевд tryto add me

October 29, 2013 at 8:03am · Like

Robin Justice O.K.

October 29, 2013 at 8:04am · Like

John Blithe I would also like to talk to you in private. Many questions.

October 29, 2013 at 8:32am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд okay then John Blithe

October 29, 2013 at 8:44am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд only on my other account i talk in private

October 29, 2013 at 8:50am · Like · 1

John Blithe OK, can you add me, please?

October 29, 2013 at 9:09am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд i try but it says follow only

October 29, 2013 at 9:10am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд i messaged you check other

October 29, 2013 at 9:10am · Like

John Blithe OK I will check.

October 29, 2013 at 9:16am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд alright

October 29, 2013 at 9:19am · Like

Алия Царнаевд did you get?

October 29, 2013 at 9:20am · Like

Алия Царнаевд because i don't have you as a friedn my message will be in

other file

October 29, 2013 at 9:20am · Like · 1

John Blithe OK mobile Facebook doesn't allow me to check other. Facebook is

useless. I will check at lunch at home.

October 29, 2013 at 9:23am · Like · 1

Алия Царнаевд okay then let me know

October 29, 2013 at 9:25am · Like · 1

John Blithe Will do!

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October 29, 2013 at 9:30am · Like · 1

Greg Burton Then what good is a discussion?

November 19, 2013 at 7:41pm · Like

Dan Spak If you can't talk about that, then does this group actually believe the

"official story" of the Boston Marathon Bombing? I don't get it.

December 29, 2013 at 8:22am · Like

Dany Carmady Dan it was discussed exhaustively for a month. Once people

were satisfied real people were injured, it got tiresome. We encouraged people

still unconvinced to create other groups. It was slowing down discussions on

other stuff. I am still happy to discuss it although I'm a bit rusty. If you look back to

early threads there was some awesome discussion. It's only a group. Not a

court decision! Lol.

December 29, 2013 at 8:27am · Like · 1