1095 search this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2019 1,095 points (95% upvoted) shortlink: https://redd.it/e666rp soccer Use subreddit style Post-Match Thread: Manchester United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur | Premier League Post Match Thread (self.soccer) submitted 9 hours ago * (last edited 9 hours ago) by JuanG12 FT: Manchester United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur Manchester United scorers: Marcus Rashford (6', 85' PEN) Tottenham Hotspur scorers: Dele Alli (39') Venue: Old Trafford LINE-UPS Manchester United David de Gea, Harry Maguire, Victor Lindelöf, Ashley Young, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Jesse Lingard (Luke Shaw), Fred, Scott McTominay, Mason Greenwood (Andreas Pereira), Marcus Rashford, Daniel James. Subs: Juan Mata, Sergio Romero, Axel Tuanzebe, Brandon Williams, James Garner. Tottenham Hotspur Paulo Gazzaniga, Toby Alderweireld, Davinson Sánchez, Jan Vertonghen, Serge Aurier, Dele Alli, Harry Winks (Tanguy Ndombele), Moussa Sissoko (Giovani Lo Celso), Harry Kane, Son Heung-Min, Lucas Moura (Christian Eriksen). **Subs:* Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Juan Foyth, Brandon Austin. MATCH EVENTS | via ESPN 6' Goal! Manchester United 1, Tottenham Hotspur 0. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United) right footed shot from the left side of the box to the bottom left corner. 13' Harry Winks (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. 39' Goal! Manchester United 1, Tottenham Hotspur 1. Dele Alli (Tottenham Hotspur) right footed shot from the right side of the six yard box to the bottom left corner.Goal confirmed following VAR Review. 40' VAR Decision: Goal Tottenham Hotspur - Manchester United 1-1 Tottenham Hotspur (Dele Alli). 49' Goal! Manchester United 2, Tottenham Hotspur 1. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United) converts the penalty with a right footed shot to the bottom right corner. 64' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Christian Eriksen replaces Lucas Moura. Learn Wordpress and Fb ads English Instructor led training in Hong Kong, 80% course fee reimbursement from CEF Form.Welkin 創意技能培訓 DIRECTIONS WEBSITE Create a new post Submit a new text post Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Get Reddit Premium comments show images Moo3 (1,710·12,217)| | | | preferences | | log out | MY SUBREDDITS - DASHBOARD - HOME - POPULAR - ALL - RANDOM - USERS - FRIENDS - MOD - MODQUEUE - SAVED - EDIT ACMILAN - ASKREDDIT - LEAGUEOFLEGENDS - NBA - ↑↓ > <
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Post-Match Thread: Manchester United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur | Premier LeaguePost Match Thread (self.soccer)submitted 9 hours ago * (last edited 9 hours ago) by JuanG12
FT: Manchester United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United scorers: Marcus Rashford (6', 85' PEN)
Tottenham Hotspur scorers: Dele Alli (39')
Venue: Old Trafford
LINE-UPS
Manchester United
David de Gea, Harry Maguire, Victor Lindelöf, Ashley Young, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Jesse Lingard (LukeShaw), Fred, Scott McTominay, Mason Greenwood (Andreas Pereira), Marcus Rashford, Daniel James.
Subs: Juan Mata, Sergio Romero, Axel Tuanzebe, Brandon Williams, James Garner.
Tottenham Hotspur
Paulo Gazzaniga, Toby Alderweireld, Davinson Sánchez, Jan Vertonghen, Serge Aurier, Dele Alli, HarryWinks (Tanguy Ndombele), Moussa Sissoko (Giovani Lo Celso), Harry Kane, Son Heung-Min, LucasMoura (Christian Eriksen).
**Subs:* Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Juan Foyth, Brandon Austin.
MATCH EVENTS | via ESPN
6' Goal! Manchester United 1, Tottenham Hotspur 0. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)right footed shot from the left side of the box to the bottom left corner.
13' Harry Winks (Tottenham Hotspur) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
39' Goal! Manchester United 1, Tottenham Hotspur 1. Dele Alli (Tottenham Hotspur) rightfooted shot from the right side of the six yard box to the bottom left corner.Goal confirmedfollowing VAR Review.
40' VAR Decision: Goal Tottenham Hotspur - Manchester United 1-1 Tottenham Hotspur (Dele Alli).
49' Goal! Manchester United 2, Tottenham Hotspur 1. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)converts the penalty with a right footed shot to the bottom right corner.
64' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Christian Eriksen replaces Lucas Moura.
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BannersJack Harrison heads in from Helder Costa’sdeflected cross to take Leeds top of theChampionship at Reading.Tottenham came from two down toprogress to the knockout stages of theChampions League with a dramatic 4-2win over Olympiakos, including a winnerfrom Serge Aurier.Robert Lewandowski scored four goals forBayern Munich in Group B as theyhammered bottom side Red Star Belgrade5-0Markus Rosenberg scores a last-minutewinner for Malmo in his final home matchArsenal sack Unai Emery with FreddieLjungberg taking over as caretaker
70' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Tanguy Ndombele replaces Harry Winks.
80' Substitution, Manchester United. Andreas Pereira replaces Mason Greenwood.
85' Substitution, Tottenham Hotspur. Giovani Lo Celso replaces Moussa Sissoko.
87' Substitution, Manchester United. Luke Shaw replaces Jesse Lingard
FULL TIME: Manchester United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur
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[–] BumbotheCleric 138 points 9 hours ago
Man Utd are the new Wolves
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[–] bak3n3ko 126 points 9 hours ago
We're Lannisters, not Starks.
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[–] BumbotheCleric 141 points 9 hours ago
Makes sense, everything went to shit for them when Tywin died. Just like SAFleaving
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[–] raizen0106 187 points 9 hours ago
Ah that explains why giggs was fucking his sisterin law
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[–] SirFluck 70 points 9 hours ago
Ah fuck Woodward is Cersei isn't he? thinks he doing well when he reallyisn't.
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[–] brrip 24 points 9 hours ago
It's cool, we play Liverpool again in January
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Nice that we can put the dynamic honeymoon period Jose to bed earlier than usual.
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[–] 29adamski 13 points 9 hours ago
Most boring football from Tottenham in years. They were so so dull.
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[–] john87000 52 points 9 hours ago
You must not have watched any of our games this season under Poch, this was the norm which is why he ended upgoing. Our home game to Newcastle was us passing the ball around the back for 90 minutes and then proceeding tolose 1-0.
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[–] OuchYouPokedMyHeart 115 points 9 hours ago
https://gfycat.com/impishtameechidna
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[–] twersx 48 points 9 hours ago
I think that was one of the last good moments with him
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[–] makingsomeeggs 28 points 9 hours ago
United wins
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I know he gets memed a lot, but Fred was phenomenal today. He was absolutely everywhere. MOTM for me. Andshout out to Lindelof as well, he was immense at the back.
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[–] Sleeplessendeavours 243 points 9 hours ago
Fred's had a few standout performances paired with McTominay. They look like a fantastic pairing in big games.They're tenacious and cover so much ground.
When paired with Pereira he looks like he's never kicked a bloody ball before.
Something to be said for midfield partners.
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[–] digitag 61 points 9 hours ago
Will be interesting to see Pogba in there too with a bit of freedom.
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[–] Sleeplessendeavours 102 points 9 hours ago
Yeah honestly I wouldn't change the double pivot.
The two of them deserve to start. Pogba should play as a 10 (but not really a 10) think Ten Hag's Ajax and van deBeek. Kind of box to box in front of the double pivot
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[–] KalistramMcleod 48 points 8 hours ago
Kind of how he played at Juve, free ahead of Vidal and Pirlo.
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[–] batuhanboz27 221 points 9 hours ago
Rashford for me, not only his goals, but the troubles he gave Aurier was very effective.
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[–] Nakabg 97 points 9 hours ago
Rashford carried the whole attack this game . A goal and a panalty won and scored , just immense !
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[–] bak3n3ko 50 points 9 hours ago
No Martial, no Pogba, no problem!
(Obviously I want both of them back as soon as possible...)
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[–] tanaka-taro 52 points 9 hours ago
Rashford played like a veteran today
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[–] wuyaa 104 points 9 hours ago
He's really come into his own in the past month or so after a dire start. If we ever see him, mctominay and pogbatogether on the same pitch it might actually be a decent midfield
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[–] just_another_jabroni 76 points 9 hours ago
Dont ever put Andreas on CM with Fred. You can see how that added pressure to him lol. Scott and Fred partnership isdoing alright tho.
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[–] VexeenBro 58 points 9 hours ago
We should just agree to never put Andreas on the pitch.
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[–] Chegism 26 points 9 hours ago
He messed up so much just in his cameo appearance.
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Fred was phenomenal today. He was absolutely everywhere. MOTM for me.
Can you imagine saying this after last season? Love it!
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[–] Finn Harps punchdrunkskunk 21 points 8 hours ago
He was great in Paris to be fair. That was the first time he started show his ability for United.
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[–] twersx 31 points 9 hours ago
He had a very good game, just felt like every single aspect of his game was a little bit better and that meant he wasgetting to balls quicker, controlling them better, making more comfortable passes to his teammates etc.
I think Rashford had a better performance though, constantly creating danger out of pretty much nothing positions.
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[–] Chaos_bolts 19 points 9 hours ago
Really happy for him after all the shit he's been getting. Seems like a nice guy as well.
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[–] _Tommunism 487 points 9 hours ago
Fred worked his ass off those last 10 mins. A decent game from him all around
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[–] Francois_Cevert 218 points 9 hours ago
Gotta be honest I think that's the best I've seen him by far
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[–] shane-jabroni 152 points 9 hours ago
Last month or so he's played quite well actually thank goodness
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But this game is his best performance in the league.
He looked good against PSG in the 2nd leg and then went back to being shit in the league. Now he's the only playerwho improved game after game when he got consistent start and mctominay of course while James has been good aswell.
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[–] shxgun 23 points 7 hours ago
He's actually been better than he was under Jose this whole season.
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[–] forgetthecrowd 466 points 9 hours ago
Was Kane on the pitch?
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[–] ItchaBoiSid 166 points 9 hours ago
In Maguires pocket
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[–] kdm1998 96 points 9 hours ago
Lindelöfs*
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[–] ItchaBoiSid 16 points 9 hours ago
A puddle of his own spit*
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Yes, but he was playing in midfield. He had to drop so deep to get the ball that he was virtually never actually playingas a striker
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[–] Barrow AFC YiddoMonty 20 points 9 hours ago
Lol every time he doesn’t get service this gets mentioned. Even when Kane scores 2 or 3, he still doesn’t get manytouches. I don’t know why people post this like it’s a hot take.
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[–] sarig_yogir 371 points 9 hours ago
What if you wanted to go to the champions League but god said "Aurier cross"
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[–] Barrow AFC YiddoMonty 73 points 9 hours ago
To be fair, Aurier played some decent crosses which should have been attacked near post but there were no willingrunners in the post, and we know Kane likes to drift far post on these crosses.
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[–] sarig_yogir 26 points 8 hours ago
Some were decent, most were at walking pace directly at De Gea.
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[–] Sixaxis_ 366 points 9 hours ago
That poor ball boy is about to get suplexed.
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[–] upsidedownpringles 92 points 9 hours ago
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[–] Sleeplessendeavours 185 points 9 hours ago
Tbf he's only been scoring as a winger lol
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[–] monkeylovesnanas 57 points 9 hours ago
With a lot less defensive responsibility than under Mourinho. This is the key here.
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[–] The_Promised_Land 59 points 9 hours ago
Ironically enough, Rash is thriving starting on the left and making drifting runs to the middle at times. Solskjaerplayed him in the middle mostly (a considerable section of our fans were convinced that was the correct call back thenand blamed Jose for not doing the same) and continuosly backed him last season despite an extremely poor spell,only to play him on the left again and he's doing very well now.
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[–] deservedlyundeserved 42 points 9 hours ago
Rashford doesn't have the composure, finishing or hold up play to perform as a striker. He's very good at driving fromthe left, beating his man and cutting inside for a shot. The way to effectively use his pace is for him to start on the leftfor sure.
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[–] The_Promised_Land 15 points 9 hours ago
I think Jose essentially hinted as much when he was operating as a pundit on Sky. He said Rash can become a veryeffective player operating from wide if developed properly. He said he had no problem in playing Rash as the 9 in thewhat was the most important game of his United stint - the EL final, but week in, week out he'd rather not use him asthe number 9. If you remember our '4-0 FC' period, that's how the Martial/Rashford combination was being used and Imaintain that is his best role.
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[–] non-relevant 229 points 9 hours ago
spurs were beyond shite
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[–] johncenatbh 131 points 9 hours ago
Just your average Mourinho side away from home at a tough ground, he doesn't like those
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[–] deservedlyundeserved 284 points 9 hours ago
I mean, he took over Spurs like 2 weeks ago. Not really his side yet.
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[–] Pottsaayy 78 points 9 hours ago
Exactly. I think Poch only won three(?) games away at Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and United.
Loved him as a coach, but they seriously underperformed in big away games. Also can’t forget Mourinho’s first gamewas their first away league win anywhere since January.
It’s hard to turn that around instantly. Then again, Mourinho’s record in the same fixtures has been pretty poor for awhile now as well.
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[–] kozeljko 47 points 9 hours ago
I mean, didn't look much different to Poch's away sides.
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[–] 29adamski 218 points 9 hours ago
Poor performance by Spurs but United surprised me by how well they played. Rashford was class.
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[–] Sleeplessendeavours 230 points 9 hours ago
United are actually quite good when they can be bothered. It's 100% a mentality issue, you see them turn up againstLiverpool, or Jose just because those games matter, and they run their socks off for 90 minutes, but against othersides it's all lethargic in the start because the players think they're better and can control the game. Never works.
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[–] completely-useless 143 points 9 hours ago
United need more leaders, esp in that midfield. McTominay makes such a fucking difference.
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[–] MAK98 80 points 9 hours ago
It's nothing to do with workrate. We struggle against lower league opposition because they sit in a low block and wedon't have players with the creativity or technical ability to beat them. Ole hasn't tactically worked that one out either.On the other hand, big teams leave a lot of space in behind for our players to exploit and counter. Essentially thisteam thrives on space and an easy way to take points off us is to just sit deep and counter.
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[–] digitag 48 points 9 hours ago
Beat Chelsea twice this season too.
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McTominay instead of Periera made quite a difference
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[–] availableusername10 69 points 9 hours ago
It was the difference, IMO. You can see how just having McTominay there gives the rest of the side confidence to pushforward. Big credit to him for the progress he’s made!
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[–] tamasuperstar 94 points 9 hours ago
That's the weird thing with Ole, I know he's a meme but we have genuinely at times played some of the best footballin the post-Fergie era under him.
It's just the consistency that is a huge problem.
It's why it's a bit stupid when people act like no club would ever take him if we got rid. In a weird way I think he'sactually improved his rep as United manager.
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[–] m_astronominoff 30 points 9 hours ago
To be fair, we were bossing top 6 sides under LvG as well, only to lose to bottom half teams immediately after. We'vebeen consistently inconsistent for a while now.
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[–] ParkerZA 27 points 8 hours ago
Difference is we were inconsistent under LvG with a squad much stronger than this thin, injury ravaged andinexperienced team. There's tons of potential here.
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I know it's a meme but there's been a reasonable amount of games like this under him (obviously he's still beennowhere near good enough).
It's why it's a bit dumb when people act like no club would take him if we got rid.
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[–] Kazehara 132 points 9 hours ago
How does Ole keep doing this
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[–] makingsomeeggs 345 points 9 hours ago
Because he isn’t actually as terrible as everyone says
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[–] capicolasalami 164 points 9 hours ago
He’s actually really good against better teams.
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[–] MiddleGround3 70 points 9 hours ago
Largely because good teams don't pack it in defensively against us. Often when we play smaller clubs they arecontent to sit back and let us have the ball, and (especially with Pogba out) we don't have anyone in midfield who canreally make a killer pass or through ball in the final third. So we look toothless but we also get sucked in and caught inattacking positions allowing teams to get numbers on us and counter. Obviously this isn't always the case, and I don'tnecessarily think Ole is a good enough manager to bring us back to the top, but it is tough to judge him with thisteam. We simply lack a lot of talent and depth in key areas. He had a good summer window if he can have a decentwinter one and a good next summer one we will hopefully be able to add some much-needed quality in the side.
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Everyone shitting on him but i can't personally see any other manager achieving better results with this shite squad.
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[–] Ts_Patriarca 87 points 9 hours ago
THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
What manager, bar Ferguson, is gonna get anything out of starting fucking Perreira in midfield, and having half theteam Injured at all times.
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[–] Biffabin 18 points 6 hours ago
Ferguson got to a level where you could give him any old Sunday league team and they'd probably be so scared ofhim they'd win trophies just to not incur his wrath, all the while he'd get other teams thinking about him and droppingpoints all over the shop.
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[–] freeflowfive 51 points 9 hours ago
Finally someone says it.
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[–] upsidedownpringles 33 points 9 hours ago
It's called not having a midfield and only planning to counter attack. Makes beating teams that put 11 men behind thegoal hard, makes beating teams that actually come to play football a little bit easier
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Also man u didn't time waste a crazy amount or anything but i really feel like something needs to be done to cut downon time wasting as much as possible. So much more than 4 minutes could have been added at the end consideringthe penalty was 2 and half minutes on its own
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[–] ItchaBoiSid 60 points 9 hours ago
A taster of future Jose
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[–] dirtboy4000 23 points 9 hours ago
I love how fickle /r/soccer or football fans in general are. When Mourinho was appointed people were saying that hewould ruin Spurs. Then he wins the next three games and he is a reformed proven winner. And then he loses a toughaway game and it's back to "Mourinho will ruin everything" narrative.
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[–] worstdamnday 23 points 7 hours ago
Not the same people.
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He’s got a decent pass and shot in him as well though. Came through the ranks as an attacking mid if I’m notmistaken
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[–] MadaraTheUchiha 17 points 9 hours ago
He's an excellent ball carrier too, just needs a bit more work on his final ball and composure in the final third. But I'msure that'll come soon, the lad's very talented and works hard.
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[–] 3amHoe 47 points 9 hours ago
I’d like to see how many times Aurier crossed straight to De Gea.
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[–] latino666 34 points 9 hours ago
Aurier was terrible
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[–] majani 36 points 9 hours ago
Aurier to de Gea is a stat I'd like to see.
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[–] ilovepolymers 19 points 9 hours ago
100 percent pass accuracy
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You're too modest. The one to thank is Xherdan Shaqiri, United legend.
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[–] ItchaBoiSid 44 points 9 hours ago
Fred was brilliant today.
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[–] Sureshot006 40 points 9 hours ago
6 goals 4 assists in the last 11 games. Rashford really is the new Cristiano
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[–] KingOfDatShit 24 points 9 hours ago
9 goals in his last 9 starts on the wing
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[–] pro_librium 35 points 9 hours ago
Imagine calling Rashford an overrated flop like most of this sub has done
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[–] AlcoholicSocks 35 points 9 hours ago
How good has Fred been recently though? Absolutely coming into his own. This team with Pogba back, actually able toplay an attacking role now Fred and Scott are coming good will be lethal