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Your Comments Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 1 This prelecture was actually not too bad. Its weird, I left it with a small amount of confidence remaining in my ability to physics correctly. I think I understand what is going on, but I won't know for sure until we do some clicker questions. Why was the magnetic field 0 for the coiled tube, if an integral in the center would have no current? Also, this is easy, hooray! I feel like I might actually understand this part. Also, thanks for adding the "Sorry prof. but I didn't think about this." answer on the checkpoints. Keep doing it, it's the honest answer sometimes. I don't see what the purpose of Bdl is. Is it strictly a trick used to calculate a certain B? I'm confused. Is it possible to have a spherical 3D case for Ampere's Law like we did for Gauss' law, and if not, what does it tell us about the magnetic field versus the electric field? Is it at a higher level? What does the value of the line integral of the magnetic field over a closed loop mean conceptually?
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Your Comments

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 1

This prelecture was actually not too bad. Its weird, I left it with a small amount of

confidence remaining in my ability to physics correctly.

I think I understand what is going on, but I won't know for sure until we do some clicker

questions.

Why was the magnetic field 0 for the coiled tube, if an integral in the center would

have no current? Also, this is easy, hooray!

I feel like I might actually understand this part. Also, thanks for adding the "Sorry prof.

but I didn't think about this." answer on the checkpoints. Keep doing it, it's the honest

answer sometimes.

I don't see what the purpose of ∫B⋅dl is. Is it strictly a trick used to calculate a certain B?

I'm confused.

Is it possible to have a spherical 3D case for Ampere's Law like we did for Gauss' law,

and if not, what does it tell us about the magnetic field versus the electric field? Is it

at a higher level?

What does the value of the line integral of the magnetic field over a closed loop

mean conceptually?

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Physics 212

Lecture 15

Today’s Concept:

Ampere’s Law

enclosedoIdB

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 2

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Infinite current-carrying wire

General Case

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 3

LHS: RBdBBddB 2

RHS: IIenclosed

R

IB o

2

:05

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CheckPoint1a CheckPoint 1b CheckPoint 1c

For which loop is B·dl the greatest?

A. Case 1 B. Case 2 C. Same

For which loop is B·dl the greatest?

A. Case 1 B. Case 2 C. Same For which loop is B·dl the greatest?

A. Case 1 B. Case 2 C. Same

Ienclosed I Ienclosed I Ienclosed I Ienclosed 0 Ienclosed 0 Ienclosed 0

Practice on Enclosed Currents

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 4

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CheckPoint 2a

What is the direction of the magnetic field inside the tube?

A. clockwise B. counterclockwise

C. radially inward to the center D. radially outward from the center

E. the magnetic field is zero

Cylindrical Symmetry

Enclosed Current = 0

X X

X

X

Check cancellations

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 5

An infinitely long hollow conducting tube carries current I in the

direction shown.

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I into screen

dBencI

Ampere’s Law

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 6

Amperian Loop

+integrals + magnetic field directinos

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dl B

dl B

dl B

encoIdB

Ampere’s Law

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 7

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dl B

dl

B

dl B

Ampere’s Law

encoIdB

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 8

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dl B

dl B

dl

B

Ampere’s Law

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 9

encoIdB

0!enc

I

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Which of the following current distributions would give rise to the B . dL distribution at the right?

A B C

Ampere’s Law Clicker Question

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 10

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Ampere’s Law Clicker Question

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 11

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Ampere’s Law Clicker Question

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 12

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Ampere’s Law Clicker Question

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 13

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A B

Match the other two:

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 14

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Use the right hand rule and curl your fingers along the direction of the current.

CheckPoint 2b

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 15

In which direction does the magnetic field point inside the tube?

A. Left B. Right C. Up D. Down E. Out of screen

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Several loops packed tightly together form a uniform magnetic field inside, and nearly zero magnetic field outside.

1 2

3 4 From this simulation, we can assume a constant field inside the solenoid and zero field outside the solenoid, and apply Ampere’s law to find the magnitude of the constant field inside the solenoid!

n = # turns/length

Solenoid

encoIBL 000

encoIdB

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 17

encoIdBdBdBdB 1

4

4

3

3

2

2

1

nLIBL o nIB o

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Similar to the Current Sheet

Total integral around the loop

Physics 212 Lecture 15, Slide 18

0

0 0

2

2 2

enclosed

loop

B d BL I

NI nIB

L

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Example Problem An infinitely long cylindrical shell with inner radius a and

outer radius b carries a uniformly distributed current I out of the screen. Sketch |B| as a function of r.

Conceptual Analysis Complete cylindrical symmetry (can only depend on r)

can use Ampere’s law to calculate B

B field can only be clockwise, counterclockwise or zero!

Strategic Analysis Calculate B for the three regions separately: 1) r < a

2) a < r < b

3) r > b

y

x

b

a

I

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 19

For circular path concentric with shell.

encoIdB

encoIdB

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Example Problem y

x b a

I r

encoIdB

0

so 0B

What does |B| look like for r < a?

A B C

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 20

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Example Problem y

x

encoIdB

b a

I r

I

What does |B| look like for r > b?

A B C

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 21

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y

x

Example Problem

b a

I r

B

dl

A B C

What does |B| look like for r > b?

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 22

LHS: rBdBBddB 2

RHS: IIenclosed

r

IB o

2

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Example Problem y

x

What is the current density j (Amp/m2) in the conductor?

b a

I

A) B) C)

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 23

2b

Ij

22 ab

Ij

22 ab

Ij

j = I / area 22 abarea

22 ab

Ij

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Example Problem y

x b a

I r What does |B| look like for a < r < b ?

A B C

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 24

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Example Problem y

x b a

I r

What does |B| look like for a < r < b ?

A B C

Starts at 0 and increases almost linearly

)()(

2 22

22ar

ab

IrB o

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 25

encoIdB

enco jArB 2

)(

)(

2 22

22

ab

ar

r

IB o

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An infinitely long cylindrical shell with inner radius a and outer radius b carries a uniformly distributed current I out of the screen. Sketch |B| as a function of r.

Example Problem y

x

b

a

I

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 26

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Physics 212 Lecture 15, Slide 27

Example Problem An infinitely long cylindrical shell with inner radius a and outer radius b carries a uniformly distributed current I out of the screen. Sketch |B| as a function of r.

x

:48

How big is B at r = b? )(

)(

2 22

22

ab

ar

r

IB

o

7

3

2

4 10 Tm/A 10A

2 0.001m

2 10 T

oI

B bb

x

x

Let I = 10 A, b = 1 mm

y

x

b

a

I

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Follow-Up y

x

b

a I

Add an infinite wire along the z axis carrying current I0. What must be true about I0 such that there is some value of r, a < r < b, such that B(r) 0 ?

I0

A) |I0| > |I| AND I0 into screen

B) |I0| > |I| AND I0 out of screen

C) |I0| < |I| AND I0 into screen

D) |I0| < |I| AND I0 out of screen

E) There is no current I0 that can produce B 0 there

B will be zero if total current enclosed 0

X

Electricity & Magnetism Lecture 15, Slide 28