YH Leadership Meeting 9th July 2014

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Welcome and Introductions

Rosy Pope welcomed everyone to the meeting. She said she is chairing this meetingas the Lead Director for people with Learning Disabilities for the Association ofDirectors (ADASS) in Yorkshire and Humber.

Everyone introduced themselves.

This meeting was about:

Sharing ideas and good ways of working on employment and getting a job fromlocal areas and across the country

Look at how local areas can help people get jobs

Share updates on other national and regional work

Yorkshire and Humber LearningDisability Leadership Meeting

9thJuly 2014 in York

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What has happened since the last meeting?

Sam shared a sheet that shows some updates on what has happened since themeeting in March. If anyone wants a paper copy of the reportsjust tell us and we willsend them in the post.

The meeting in March talked about different ways of checking how things are working.

Since then the big report on the Joint Health and Social Care Self - Assessment hascome out. This says what everyone across the country scored on the different bits.

http://bit.ly/1nNJY4x

There are also reports on peoples stories on that page. None of them are Easy Read.

The Winterbourne View Joint Improvement Programme has started some web pages toshare good ways of working.

You can see them here:http://bit.ly/1qXmGgb

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Why we think having a job and working together is importantShaun and Catherine from Change talked about their jobs and how the Change co-worker model works.

They also shared their top tips for employing people with learning disabilities.

You can see their presentation athttp://bit.ly/1qwEu62

What is working well to help people get jobs

You can see all the good things people shared at the end of these notes, the big thingspeople said helps people get jobs are:

Looking at what people are good at to help them decide on a job

Support from an employment service to get a job and keep the job

Joint workingdisabled and non-disabled people working together

Careers weeks in schoolsyoung people hearing from people who have a job

Peer to peer supportperson to person and family to family

Good advice on benefits and money

Project Searchtraining and internships

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What is getting in the way?

You can see everything people said at the end of these notes but here are the bigthings that people said could help them

Finding paid work not only chances to be a volunteer

Peoples attitudes thinking people with learning disabilities cannot do things

Benefits or the money working out so people not worse off

Being able to travel to and from work

Peoples expectations not everyone agreeing it is good to work and that

people with learning disabilities can

Getting good to support at work

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My job and what working means to me

Tim and Marsha from Kirklees talked about their job and why working is important to

them.They were supported to get a job by REAL employmentyou can see more aboutthem at

http://bit.ly/1iz29Pw

Tim showed the film he made about his job.

You can see that athttp://bit.ly/1jRHQgY

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Getting a job the guide for families and how it is working

Dave Barker talked about the Getting a job guide for families.

You can read the Getting a Job guide here

http://bit.ly/1pefRFY

Dave also showed a film about his son Matthews job and talked about how that worksfor Matthew.

How we work together at Care 4 All

Sean Brown talked about how Care4All runs different enterprises including a holidaychalet and a caf in North East Lincolnshire which employs people with learning

disabilities. Care 4 All actively try to employ disabled people in their work.

You can see his presentation athttp://bit.ly/1rKBhgn

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What is important to work on in our areaActionsthis is what everyone said they will go away and do after today

Wakefield Learning Disability Partnership Board reps (Andy and Rowy) to find out list ofpeople to be able to contact for up to date information on how being in paidemployment will effect benefits.

Explore local provision for finding work.

Ask Wakefield what is the present situation regarding their undertaking to offer

employment to a small number of people with learning disabilities.

Change are looking for new volunteers with learning disabilities to deliver training andmake information accessibleWe will advertise this widely!

Link our individual websites up to other regional services/Inclusion North.

Follow up on info around social Enterprise/Self-employment. (Nancyreal)

Make sure that if you have a learning disability you get the right support at the jobcentreask for a Disability Employment Advisor. (Marsha)

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Make sure that Getting a Job book is shared with Learning Disability Partnership Boardand other relevant groupsconsider inviting Dave to a meeting with self-advocates,family carers etc. (RuthBarnsley)

Share information from Care4All with Employment and Voluntary Service. (RuthBarnsley)

Feedback to commissioning managerliaise with C.M. and Dave Barker to attendPartnership Board to deliver info to Family carers in Leeds! (Claire and DanielleLeeds)

Provide information to Leadership Board on who does what in Leeds, in relation toemployment opportunities for people with Learning Disabilities. (Claire and DanielleLeeds)

Gather further information on resources available from Change. (Claire and DanielleLeeds)

Monitoring from senior staffwho is trying hard on the shop floor.

Obtain the LetsJust Do It summary to distribute to the Learning Disability Partnership

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Board. (DMBC)

Gather info on Local Enterprise Partnerships and share this with relevant professionals.(DMBC)

Change will work with other companies and organisations to make their workplaces andinformation more accessible.

Change will work with schools to teach children about Hate Crime and also give peer-to-peer support to children with disabilities to give them confidence and break downbarriers.

Suggest North Yorkshire Partnership Board develops Community Mapping of thesupported employment services, local enterprise partnerships (LEPS), socialenterprises, local and regional resourcesin Easy Read!

Feedback information to the next Partnership Board meeting. Share the learning wehave done today and suggest we invite Dave to a future Partnership Board. (NorthYorkshire)

We will ask our DWP Partnership manager about paid work and benefits and feed backto Sam.

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Eric to feedback to our Partnership Board from todays meeting and discuss how to getmore people working in Hull.

Care4All will continue to employ more and more people with disabilities and raise

awareness.

Linking in with Care4All re Hate Crime and Diverse Communities. (Humberside police)

Find out who can give us GOOD AND CORRECT advice about benefits in our area(Calderdale)

Dave Barker to visit Calderdale Learning Disability Partnership Board in October(Calderdale)

Local actions East Riding

Look at PA (hrs) for employment support.

Dave visiting the Partnership Board

Refresh Employment Action Plan (subgroup PB)

Transition event in November have emphasis on employment.

Good new provision What my jobs mean to me

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What we want to know more about

Local and regional opportunities/resources and service providers

Social and employment opportunities for adults with learning disabilities who liveindependently without supportHow do you know what is out there?

Can we tie info in with transitions work?

Employments guide to schools, careers advice and special schools

Choices between career path and further education

More opportunities for peer to peer support

Should be apprenticeships aimed at older people, not just young adults

Tie in with 16-24s in education, work with younger from 16.

More information on how being in employment will affect my benefits

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Good practice: Special school gives students info/support on careers etc, youngerchildren learning from older children.

Interview practice and application practice/support would be helpful.

Job coaches needed for people when in employment as and when needed. (Wakefield)

Confusion on wages affecting benefits. Where do we get information from? What do wedo with that information? Staff need training

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What we will work on next together

Future issues for discussion

Welfare benefits? Someone from Job Centre to discuss Welfare Benefits,

sanctions, changes in welfare reform. Transporttraining scheme/costs, travel opportunities

Different ways of checking qualityExperts by Experience and Quality Checkersor Secret Shoppers for example

Housing Opportunitiesadaptions -> funding, appropriate social housing stock.

DOLSMental capacity/deprivation of liberty = CHANGES + IMPLICATIONS

How we can link up websites to share information across areas Find out how successful shop floor support is - Ask Tim Gollins to come along?

Inclusion North have made a short guide to the resources and projects to help peopleget involved in voting and understand political systems.

You can see it athttp://bit.ly/1nmqqWz

In the autumn Inclusion North will be running a session for self-advocates on voting andpolitical involvement of people with a learning disability, to use their vote and influencewhat happens at a local and national level.

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Rosy thanked everyone for coming to the meeting and working hard.

At the end of these notes you can see all the work each group did

The date of the next meeting is22ndOctober from 10.00am to 1.00pm

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What people thought was working well all the details

Mencap supporting people with paid employment (Wakefield)

Strong business planvolunteers

Volunteering helps to then get a paid job (Hull CityEric)

Application in Easy Read format. Independent Travellers means easier to getwork. (WayneCalderdale)

Benefits being affected. Only work 3 hours, worked more then found outafterwards (MarianneCalderdale)

Careers weeks at school. Ex-pupils are success stories for future generations.(East Riding)

I have been able to get good qualifications through school, Pennine College(Wakefield)

Main street employment service (Nancy real employment)

Committed commissioners! (Nancy real employment)

Joint working. A person with learning disabilities working alongside other workerwho can support.

Look at what people can dowork on peoples strengths.

I had a job many years ago, when 21. Is there something to learn from the past?(GeorginaHull)

Joint workingworking with third sector. (East Riding)

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Working with employers to move to 16 hour contracts re benefits. (East Riding)

Specialist advice about benefits and Employment Support in Easy Read. (NorthYorkshire)

Social enterprise projects across our area where people learn skills that enable

them and prepare them for paid work. (North Yorkshire) Supported employment services across North Yorkshire.

Using computers can be useful (Calderdale)

Choice support employs service users to interview new staff and do qualitychecking on services for payment. (Wakefield)

Employers that can adapt to changing needs / skills of employment. (DanielleMitchellCare Manager LCC)

Pro-active support providers (Danielle MitchellCare Manager LCC)

Having key champions with families. Families leading families. (East Riding)

Right people in the right job. (Claire, Colin, Dhiraj, Sean, Royce)

Working 57 people into employment using the place, train and maintain method.Followed up by two reviews with the employer each year. (Kevin Holder)

As a volunteer people develop skills and build self-confidence. (North Yorkshire)

Funding is needed to enable supported employment to continue. (North Yorkshire)

Good support to find and keep a job. (Harrogate area)

Making the workplace accessible (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

Peer to peer support (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

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Co-working (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

Volunteering opportunities (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

Be treated as an equal in the workplace (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

Advocates can facilitate helping people to get a job and more information (ChangeShaun and Catherine)

Project searchAmerica model. (DMBC)

Attitudes

Life skills training

Link our individual websites up to other regional services / Inclusion North.

Social enterprise projects involving

Innovation fundAssists with setting up small businesses/projects. (DMBC)

Creative Caf Social Enterprise caf in Leeds. Provide creative support.(Danielle Mirchell, Care Manager LCC)

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What is getting in the way?

Benefits issues (paid employment)

Finding paid or longer term employmentoften options available are volunteering

or short placements Transport/travel to and from work

Funding to obtain employmentuse of agency

Less understanding employers re skills, support needs etc.

Lack of variety of employment options

AttitudesPeople think people with learning disabilities arent capable of having aproper job

Support workersSometimes can take peoples voices away and speak for them

TrainingPeople need more training on working with people with learningdisabilities e.g. Job Centres

Benefits systemCan limit peoples ability to get a job

Inaccessible workplacesPeople need more support with life skills to build upconfidence to live independently and get a job

Need more proper paid jobs

Getting past the first interview

Little expectation for people to work

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Pathway includes qualifications but no result in paid work

Providers lose contact with people

No recognition of use of personal budgets

Lots of good activity worth doing but should not be called employment

Voluntary good for experience, reference points and skills but not employmentuntil it leads to paid work

PBMissing Jigsaw Piece

Distinguishing between those who want to work and those who want something todo during the day

o Limited resources

Getting our name out there

Misconceptions about employing people with disabilities

o The difference between a disability and an illness

o Capabilities

Skills, Knowledge and experience

o Work skills

Zero hours contracts

Targetsjob centres

Service land culture (soft option)

Using PAs to work (Local priority, refresh, action plan)

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Historical outdated practice

Recruitment process

What would help people get into work?

Working interviewsby the companies

Individual placement support

Work experience with time limit

Employer incentives

Local businesses

Job carving

Educating employers and employees

Making information accessible

Job matching

Someone with a learning disability on interview panel

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Who was at the meeting

Name Area

Maggie Kelly York

Danielle Michelle Leeds

Rosy Pope East Riding

Alison Porter East Riding

Jai Rea Wakefield

Jayne Lodge Kirklees

David Barker Kirklees

Nancy Redhead Kirklees

Tim Ainley Kirklees

Marsha Simpson Kirklees

Shaun Webster ChangeLeeds

Catherine Carter Change - Leeds

Nada Change - Leeds

Ann Widdica Rotherham Speakup

Alison Owen Rotherham Speakup

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Karren Murray KeyringNorth Yorkshire

Colin Jopson North Yorkshire

Dhiraj Mann North Yorkshire

David Bruce North YorkshireStephen Mirfin Humberside

Pam Howes East Riding

Liane Kirk East Riding

Claire Liddan North Yorkshire

Ruth Jefferson BarnsleyJudith Wild South Yorkshire & Bassetlaw

Claire Collins Leeds

Barrie Warner Wakefield

Rosie Tozer York

Jackie Dolman Cloverleaf

Marion Belshaw Cloverleaf

Wayne Jones Cloverleaf

Jenny Anderton

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Sean Brown Care4AllNE Lincs

Royce Coates Care4AllNE Lincs

Guy Harrison Wakefield

Kevin Holder East RidingHugh Lundberg Mencap -Hull

Eric Pepper Mencap -Hull

Georgina Bolton Mencap -Hull

Vicky Farnsworth Hull

Derek Barker DoncasterKatie Ainslie Doncaster

Lesley Hunt Doncaster

Malcolm Burnside

Aletha Nsumiwa Halifax

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Apologies

Julie Cole Leeds

Peter Choules East Riding

Sharon Graham BarnsleySam Suttar North Yorkshire

Jean Riley North Yorkshire

Julie Arnold East Riding

Mark McGeachy Hull

Paul Moss Hull

Leanne Powell Barnsley

Angie Dyson NE Lincs

Peter Choules East Riding