46 ,Cross, 22 Year of 1753 Certified copy of the proceedings held by order of the superior decree issued by the Most Excellent Seftor Don Juan co Fran. de Guemes y Horcasitas, Count of Revillagigedo, Chamberlain of His Majesty with admission to the Royal, Counci7., Lieutenant General of the.royal armies' Viceroy, Governora and Captain General of this New Spain9 and Pres- ident of the Royal Audiencia of the same, on the 26th of September of 1752, for the purposes stated herein. Rubric,
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Year of 1753Colonel DonCarlos de Franquis Benites de Lugo while he was governor of.the said ^province,; the charges which the lat-ter.brought against Captain Don Manuel de Sandobal
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,Cross,
22
Year of 1753
Certified copy of the proceedings held by order of the
superior decree issued by the Most Excellent Seftor Don Juanco
Fran. de Guemes y Horcasitas, Count of Revillagigedo,
Chamberlain of His Majesty with admission to the Royal,
Counci7., Lieutenant General of the.royal armies' Viceroy,
Governora and Captain General of this New Spain9 and Pres-
ident of the Royal Audiencia of the same, on the 26th of
September of 1752, for the purposes stated herein.
Rubric,
Junta
CroSs,
The Junta de Guerra y hacienda held today,
the twenty-fifth of September of one thousand,
seven hundred fifty-two, was convened by order of the Mostco
Excellent Seflor Don Juan Fran. de Guemes y Horcasitas,
Count of Revillagigedo, Chamberlain of His Majesty with
admission to.the royal council,a Lieutenant General of
the royal armies, Viceroy, Governor and Captain General of
this New Spain, and President of the royal audiencia of
the same, and was attended by the sefiores oidores: Sub-co
dean Don Domingo _ Valcarcel y Tormento, Don Fran. L6pez
Adan, and the Marquis of'Altamira, auditor de guerra, all
three Knights of the Order of Santiasgo9 and Dr. Don Antonio
Andreu y Ferraz, senior fiscal for civil cases,, all mem-
bers, of His Majesty's council in this royal audiencia, de-
tores Don Juan Chris6stomo de Barroeta, regent of the
royal tribunal and audiencia of accounts, and Don Joachin
de Cortillas, accountant of the said tribunal,, and Don
Ygnacio Joseph de Miranda, Don. Joseph del Mazo Calder6n,
and Don Joseph Dias de Zeliz, royal officials of the main
office of the Royal Treasury in this Capital, Don Juan An-
tonio Bustillos, former governor and captain general of
the province of Texas, and Don Pedro de el Barrio Junco Y.
Espriella, who has just left that office, and has been
commissioned to the corresponding office, for the juris-
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diction of the Kingdom of Nuevo i,e6n. A summary was given
of the proceedings executed by order of this captaincy
general for the purpose of ascertaining whether the French
in the presidio of Nachitos had gone beyond their boun-
daries and,keeping the same name for the purpose of dis-
simulating, had moved it the said presidio, to territory
belonging_to our sovereign in order to be nearerto our
,presidio, of los Adaes, in the province of Texas. The
said proceedings, were begun while the government of this
New Spain was headed by the Most Excellent Seftor Count of
F-u.enclara, by.virtue of the royal cedula dated Buen Reti-
ro, July fifteen, one thousand seven hundred forty, in
which His Majesty (may he rest in glory) referred to thelv
,report, made to him by SePlor Don Pedro de Bedo//ya y Oso-
rio, fiscal of this royal Audiencia at t hat time, relative
to: the complaints which the missionary religious of the
province of Zacatecas filed in this captaincy general against
Colonel DonCarlos de Franquis Benites de Lugo while he was
governor of.the said ^province,; the charges which the lat-
ter.brought against Captain Don Manuel de Sandobal alleging
that he Sandoval., carriedaway by his natural indolence
or by his covetous eagerness for his own advancement, had
permitted the aTemoval lby the French of their. presidio of
Nachitos; and the charges which Franquis brought, at the
same time against the despotism of the missionary religious
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and their activities, alleging that the latter, having mis-
represented the number of Indians of.. that ^regior_, for whosewere guilty of fraud;
aid and conversion they received annual payments,/and that
Sandoval,having collected the pay for the entire complement
,of his garrison, notwithstanding the fact that he did not
have the complete number in his garrison, was guilty of
fraud,. Don Justo Boneo, a Knight of the Order of Santiago'
who was then going to s erve in the office of g0vernor, , was
given special orders to take from this Capital the pertinent
information and instructions for investigating these two
points;. and to aeep the Most Excellent Viceroy informed of
the truth in order that by being thoroughly 3.nformed he could
apply the necessarv measures. The same course was followed
with regard to the consulta of the sixteenth of December of
,one thousand, seven hundred forty-three in which the said
Don Justo Boneo remitted tothe said Most Excellent Sefior a
duplicate of the aforesaid cedula with the statement that
he had found it on his arrival at the said presidio; with
regard to. the opinions of the seftor auditor gen era1 de la.,
g,uerra of the sixth of March and of the twentieth of -June
of one thousand, seven hundred forty-four based upon the
examination of the proceedings and criminal cause instigated
by the said Colonel Don Carlos de Franquis against Don Ha-
nuel de Sandoval, charging that he Sandoval, had permitted
the removal by the French of their presidio of Nachitos;
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and with regard to the proceedings, instituted relative to2
the payment of a draft //for eight thousand pesos claimed by
the aforesaid Don Carlos, and the other ^proceedings, found
in the office of.the notary of this superior government.
The said documents contained a summary of the expeditions to
the said province of Texas, its location, boundaries, topo-
graphy' discovery, pacification, progress' and present con-
dition. Because his opinion of the twentieth of June con-
tained a summary of all the incidents and disputes that had
occurred between Franquis and Sandobal md because the char-
ges against the latter were not proved, but on the contrary
he Sandoeal, was exhonerated by the reply of aefior Fiscal
Don Pedro de Vedoia, he the said auditor, recommended that
a certified copy of the said topinion, be remitted to His
Majesty in the interim prior to the remittal, of all, the
proceedings on the case; and thata certified copy, be also
sent to the above-said Boneo for his information. Included
also was a summary of the royal order given at Aranjuds on
the twentieth of June of one thousand seven hundred forty-
one, in which the Most Excellent Sefior Duke de la Conquista
informed His Majesty that the French from New Orleans had
extended their hold3.ngs, and had gone beyond their boun-
daries moving their colony and the presidio of Nachitos to
to the south side of the river, establishing themselves at
a short distance from our presidio of los Adaes thus invading
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and usurping lands in the province of the Texas and defrauding
the Spanish Monarchy of a significant sad. important ^part of
its, dominions. For this reason he His Majesty, ordered
the present Most Excellent SePior Viceroy to exercise the
greatest wisdom and watchfulness in order to check the ad-
.vance of.the said Power in the said locality and to, combat
the plans and purposes of the French nation so as to prevent
the exposure of our dominions to the.pernicious consequences
of.laxity. Included also was a summary of the opinion given
in view of the foregoing order, by the seior auditor Eeneral
de la guerra on the twenty-seventh of November of the past year
of tone trousand, seven hundred forty-one to the effect that
at the earliest opportunity a certified copy of the pertinent
cuaderno should be forwarded to His Majesty for the purpose
of informing him that, subsequent to the report made to him,.
as he had requested in the dispatch, of the twentieth of2v
//June of one thousaxid, seven hundred forty-four, nothing new
had occurred relative to.the subject of the royal orderof the
same date to merit thus far a change of attitude toward the
question of French intrusion. Later acertified copy, of
all the proceedings should be forwarded to His T1Tajesty,
together with accertified copy, of the cproceedings, ins-who
,tituted by reason of the fact that some Frenchmen,/by order
of the govern:or-:.had been brought as prisoners to this Capital,
had entered New Mexico. At the same time, the governor of
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Texas should be ordered to take every precaution to check_ any
immoderate plans of the French he might discover and t o notify
His Fxcellency of the same in order that the requisite meas-
ures might be enac.ted.
Included also was a summary of the consulta dated June
thirtieth of the past year of.one thousand seven hundred
fifty sent to this captaincy general by Don Juan.de.Yarza
y Ascona, the captain commandant of the Island of Santa Rosa,
Punta de Siguenza, to the effect that he had witnessed,the
arrival at the French.Colohy of four ships loaded with
troops; and that at the time there were also in the Missis-
sippi River thirty-six merchant ships that transported dry
goods and other items as well as soldiers, settlers, women,
and children to populate the extensive lands they the French,
now possess; and that they were advancing farther into the
interior and fortitying themselves with several forts in
different localities; and that,although heretofore they had
not had a division of cavalry, they had organized one now.
The said commandant also gave an account of the annual en-
try made by the French through.los Adais bringing in their
dry.goods in exchange for meat and other items; and of the
mutual activity among both the soldiers of the Spanish pre-
sidios and.the civilians of transporting in balsas all these
effects as well as saddles for their horses, whiph they took
by land as far as New Orleans in order to use them, on their
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s returnfor transporting the dry goods and for repairing to the
Spanish localities.where they lived. The said commandant
also stated, that these same Frenchmen had carried on this
trade in the Isla:nd of Santa Rosa; and that in the year of
.one thousand seven hundred, forty-nine, some soldiers and
sailors from the said. Jsland., who, with their corporal, had
been detailed to o:btain provisions saw more than forty of the3
said SpanisYi, soldiers and civilians in the. vi//lla of New
flrleans. The said commandant also reported the intercourse
between.the Apalachees and the Samases Indians and the English,
notwithstanding the fact that this trade was carried on some
leagues away and he could not prevent it by subjecting the.
said Samaces not only because of the remoteness of the said
presidio and because they the Samaces., were mixed -with
pagan Indians of different nations, but also because the
said-Isiand was very short of troops since its two companies
consisted of only sixty-two soldiers of whom only forty-six
were active and the rest disabled' and five of the latter had
deserted on the first of May of the said year. Since these
deserters, were in the fort of San Marcos de Abalache be-
longing to Florida, it had been impossible to have them re-
turned because of the order given by the governor of that
province by virtue of which the restitution of deserters was
suspended by Alfrez Don Pedro de Ortega, who was in command
of the detachment at the Fort of Sah.Marcosm A summary was
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also given of the consulta, dated the thirty-first of De-
cember of the past year of one thousand; seven h.undred.fifty,r 53.C,
which Don Jazinto de JAuregui y Barrios' the present gover-
nor of the province of Texas, made to His Excellency and in
which he, because of the dangers to which he was subjected
in consequence of the absence of, the seventeen soldiers
from the presidio of los Adaes who were serving as a guard
for the new missions founded on the banks of the San Xavier
River, asked the said Most Excellent Seftor for their res-
titution. Included also was a summary of the reply given
on this subject by His Majesty's Fiscal on the first of
February of one thousand, seven hundred fifty-one and of
the opinion of the iefior Auditor, dated the eigth of the
same month,, with which His Excellency concurred ordering
the present governor to proceed, with the energy and zeal
called for by a matter of such importance, to make the ne-
cessary investigations on the subject of the consulta of
the said commandant and on the subject of, :whether the
Mississippi River : should ser.ve as :boundary to the French ," .. ,.
nation,.in order that in vi-ew thereof the requisite measures
;could be, enacted. A summary was also given of the consul-
ta with which the said governor remitted the proceedings
executed to this end, containing the following, statements:
First, that according to the depositions of -the. vaitnesses
examined for this purpose the French had gone beyond the
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Colorado River, which had served as boundary to them prior
to the year of rone thousand, seven hundred twenty, after3v
//which date they had advanced toward the interior as far as
the presidio of los Adais. In proof of the foregoingGstate-
ment, someof the witnesses, asserted that before they the
French, had advanced beyond the said boundary, they did not
pursue their deserters who had crossed the river neither did
the Spaniards pursue.their deserters across the river,;
but that this was no longer the case because during the
administration of Governor Sandobal the French had advanced
,beyond their boundaries, although through no fault of the
former, who could not have prevented it rtheir advance, even
if he had tried to because hehad limited forces while the
French with their Indian allies had many. Second, that in.
the year of zone thousand, seven hundred fifty-one, ships
from Europe with many regular troops and families arrived
in New Orleans. Third, that the troops and families had been
brought for the purpose of fortifying and enlarging the
settlements of caudachos, Puente Cup,61,Sirinud, and Nachi-
tos; that they the French, hoped to accomplish this,objec-
tive, as soon as the crops were gathered and there was an
abundance of w4ter in the Colorado River, which was known to
have very little water, at the time; and that for this.reason
the said troops had remained in New Orleans. The majority
of the witnesses added that, notwithstanding the preceding
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.statement,, some of the aforesaid troops had come down to the
presidio of Nachitos in canoes; and some witnesses, said
that they had come, secretly and in disguise. Fourthl that
among the many orders which the commandant of Nachitos had
received since the arrival of the above-said troops was the
,order, not to prevent or hinder the trade and communication
between A'ifrez Don Luis de San Deni sic,, the son of the
late Commandant Don Luis de San Denis, and all the Indians
of Nachitos 3'^ exas::. and the rest; and that although the comman-
dant had always been given the said order, this time it had
been called to his attention with special emphasis. Fifth,
that the paymaster of the royal almacdn of Nachitos had ex=
press order to supply the said Don Luis with whatever he asked
from the almac6n, to which he went whenever he wanted anything
such as guns, powder, bullets' bayetas, vermilion, and other
items valued by the Indians among whom he distributed the
same, for which.reason he was exceedingly loved and obeyed
by them; and other.remarks. Sixth, that during the year of
=one thousand seven hundred, fifty, the said A1fdrez Don Luis
asked the governor for license to trade with the Indians;
that, piqued because it was denied him, he had embarked in
a canoe on los Adais River and had gone to the Pueblo of
Yatasi from where he proceeded to the Pueblo, of Nazones,_
and then he had cunningly advanced into all the other cPue-
blos„ winning the good will of the Indians with the con-l10
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ifsequence that //the chief of the"Nacodochez, gun in hand,
confronted the missionary of the said Pueblo, Friar Joseph
Calahorra, whom he assailed with insults and whom, he would
have killed because he and the Spaniards had caused their
chief Don Luis to become provoked with them the Indians,
so that all the Pueblos were ready to take up arms against
the Spaniards, whom they did not want in their lands, but
only the French because the latter gave them everything they
needed while the Spaniards did nothing of the sort. The said
Indian chief would have carried out his threat if the said
reverend father had not humbled himself before him. The
foregoing information, is of record in a certif3.ed state-
ment by the reverend missionary father of Mission San Miguel
de Aguayo de los Adais. In conclusion, the said governor
cstated, that in his opinion, in order to observe the plans
. of the French and deterxnine, their motives for enlarging their
settlements., it was indispensable to set up on the San Pedro
River a guard of twenty soldiers with an experienced and
zealous officer, whose`chief responsibility should be to
attract and win over the Indians who laid down the lau*for`
the other nations in the whole province.
Asumrnary was also given of the aforesaid consulta of the
said governor, dated the eighth.of November of the past year
of one thousand, seven hundred fifty-one, included with thein
preceding ^cosulta,, and/which he asked for the authority
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to advance to each soldier the third of his salary, which he
needed regularly for his equipment and maintenance; and also
the authority enabling him to trade with the French of Na-
chitos or to buy from them a maximum of six arrobas of 404,r-
diente and eighteen barrels of wine because this was indis-
pensable for preventing the soldiers' trading their horses
and saddles for wine. There was also a summary of the recom-
mendation on this subject of the Getor Fiscal of His Majesty,
in his reply of the twenty-third of August of this year and,
appended thereto,,,a summary, of the opinion given by the
Sefimr Auditor General de la Guerra on the thirteenth of the
present month,; and a summary, of the proceedings executed
relative to the entry of the French in the kingdom of New
Mexico of which His Majesty was informed by a certified copy
of the said proceedings,s registered and remitted by four
.,soldiers, who arrived at the Casa de Contrataci6n at the
Port of Cddiz in the company of another,,soidier, who was
serving in the infantry in this Capital GMexico,. Lastly,
there was. a summary of the superior decree from His Excel-
lency dated the thirteenth of the present month, ordering,
that a Junta de uerra y hacienda be convoked for the purpose
of deciding upon the following questions:
lst. First, whether, in order to observe the plans of
the French and determine, their motives for having enlarged
their settlements, there shall be set up on the San Pedro
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4vRiver a guard of twenty //soldiers with an experienced and
zealous.officer whose chief responsibility shall be to
attract and win over the Indians who laid down the law for
the other nations of the entire province.
2nd. Whether one of the engineers who is now in this
kingdom shall be sent to assist the governor and help him to
regain ihe land that had 'been, usurped and to enact measures
for the purpose of preventing the usurpation of any other
rland, in the future.
3rd. Whether for the time being and, until the requisite
measures shall be enacted in view, of the findings of the
investigations.,, the French shall be compelled to move out of
the land they have, occupied, not by resorting to the use of
arms but rather by means of prudent expedients, in conformity
with His Majesty's orders in the first part of his royal
.decree. And if this objective is not achieved by rneans..of
letters requisitorial, whether they the French,;.shall be
compeiled to move out,_^by.force of arms and,-whether,,=the.
ord^rs;requisite for this 1^urpose. shall;: be given to the
governor and the Tresidial men of the province of Texas.
Whether-a consulta shall be sent to.Kis Majesty
to the' effect that s3.nce` there are not enough soldiers for
whatever contingencies may occur with the French, the gar-
rison of the said presidio shall be the isam.e as that of the
Port of Vera Cruz in order that there may be' eh.ough troops
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8to serve as protection against the Indians and as defense
against the French.
5th. Whether, since:it is impossible to mantain the
company without the soldiers' pawning their rations of corn,
meat, tobacco, and other,items,,a th.ird of their wages could
be advanced to them without violating previous decisions on
this question.
6th. Whether, since the region in question is exceeding-
ly cold and subject, also to equally extreme heat, it will
be advisable to permit the import of wines and aguardientes
from the French nation with the moderation requisite to avoid
excesses.
7th. Whether petition shall be made for all.the papers
pertinent to these proceedings and annexed cthereto, in order
that a question of such importance as this shall be in due
legal form.
8th. Whether special attention shall be devoted to ob-
taining the documents extant relative to whether the Colorado
or the Mississippi RiverOis the boundary or dividing line
between the daminions of France and of Spain and to ascer-
taining whether there is any decision or order from His Majes-
ty on this particular subject in order that by keeping the same
in mind it may be possible to avoid the danger of violating
any treaties that may have been drawn between the two crowns.
9th. Finally, whether the execution of the decision
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determined upon shall be entrusted to:the governor of the said
province.5
When all the foregoing had been ex//amined with the
judgeffient, thoughtfulnes.s^and care called for by the contents
of the same, it was unanimously decided to deny not only the
petition of the governor of theprovince.of Texas for the
establishment on the an Pedro River of a guard of twenty
soldiers with an experienced and zealous officer to observe
the plans of the French and determine, their motives for
enlarging their settlements, but also the petition, that
the above-said engineer be sent. These petitions were de-
nied, because althoughit was evident from the proceedings held
by the present governor of the province of Texas that the
French had advanced beyond their boundaries when Don Manuel
de Sandoval was governor of the said province, $aere was no
indication in the same proceedings, of what should be the
boundary between New Orleans and the dominions of, His
Majesty or of whether it the boundary, should be the Colo-
rado River, the Great Moun.tain, or some other place. And
since from the proceedings held previously it appeared that
it the boundary, should be the Great Mountain or Arroio Hon-
do, located halfway between the French presidio of Nachitos
and the presidio, of los Adais= the capital-.af the province
of Texas, therefore, no one knew what should be considered
as the boundary,, the number or extent of the lands that had
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been occupied, or their location. And in order to ascertain
the number, the extent, the location and -be boundaries of the
same and whether the Colorado or soBe other river was the
boundary line between the two dominions, the present governor
shall be instructed to hold all the proceedings necessary for
determining what constitues the boundary^between the domains
of the two monarchies. Accordingly, he shall take the neces-
sary depositions and execute all the requisite proceedings
not only for the said purpose but also for the ^purpose, of
proving how long ago the said French invaded the dominions..
of our sovereign, how much land, they have occupied, the
boundaries of the same, the number of, settlements, fort$,
and.presidios they have constructed, their names, garrisons'
and present condition. And if the findings of the proceed-
ings, held should be that the Colorado River or another of
the aforesaid places was the boundary line between the two
nations, and if they the French, have advanced beyond it
,the said boundary line, with their, settlements and fort-
ifications^ he the governor of Texas, shall request the gover-
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nor or cornmanc7.a.nt of the presidio of Nachitos, in the name
of His Catholic Majesty, to withdraw from all the lands that
they the French, have occupied leaving them free and unen-
cumbered and restricting themselves to their ^own, possessions.5v
For this purpose he shall also //prove by means of the pro-
ceedings held, that they had trespassed upon zlands, belonging
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8 to our sovereign. He shall make this petition as many as
three times by means of such letters requisitorial as his
zeal may dictate in order to persuade him the said com-
ffiandant, to do this. And in the event that he should thus
prevail upon the commandant of Nachitos to withdraw within
the boundaries of his cown, dominions, the present governor,.
shall proceed to demolish all the fortifications, tre.nches'
and other forts they the French, may have constructed as a
perpetual reminder and in order to prevent, any future rec-
urrence of such a dispute.
When the limits and boundary line between the two coun-
tries shall have been determined, in the event that the letters
requisitorial stated above shall prove ineffectual, all the
proceedings held shall be forwarded to this captaincy general
for the purpose of informing His Excellency of the unwil-
lingness of the said commandant to make restitution of the
land in question occupied to His Majesty's detriment, and of
the failure to persuade. him to 'd.o this either by proving
to him His Majesty's dominion and proprietorship over the
said territory, or by means of letters requisitorial. This
shall be done, in order that His Excellency may adopt such
measures,: as he considers advisable to the.end that the
royal order of June twenty, one thousand, seven hundred f3.fty-
one.shall be duly executed,. A letter shall be written to
the above-said governor and remitted, with a certified copy
of the proceedings, of this junta, instructing him that
when by order of this captaincy general the Marquis de an
Miguel de Aguaio went to drive out the French who had ad-
vanced into the said dominions, he took possession in the
name of His Majesty of all the said lands--including the
=lands, now occupied, settled, and fortified by them the
French,--because he His A:Taj.esty,,had acquired dominion and
proprietorship of the same as, far back as the year of one
thousand, six hundred ninety; and that.they the French, did
not begin their advance cinto, and settlement of our domains
until after tYie said Marquis de San Miguel de Aguaio had
taken possession of the same,,while Don YLanuel.de Sandobal
was governor of the province of Texas. In neither event,
however, shall he make use of force of arms but only of the
letters requisitorial indicated to hiffi, he shall bear in
mind that this is to be.done in the most urbane and diplom-
atic manner in order to preserve the friendly relationship6
//existing between the two kingdoms by reason of the close
alliance now existing between them. With regard to ;:.his
petition for the authority to advance a third of their sal.-
aries to the soldiers of his comp.;,ny, he the said governor,
shall be instructed to observe and abide by the ordinance which
treats of this subject; and he shall be informed, that his
petition to import wines and aguardieni:es from the French
nation can.bp no means be granted because this has been
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expressely prohibited by His Majesty particularly in the region
in question. His attention shall be called to how objection-
able this practice has become and he shall be ordered partic-
ularly to comply with his obligations with reference to this
subject taking every precaution to prevent the commerce and
trading he has reported between the soldiers and the presidio
of Nachitos and imposing and executing against those engaging
in this commerce the penalties fixed by law,. At the earliest
opportunity, he shall report the latest.developments to His
Majesty by means of a certified copy. He the said governor,
shall be notified that, by recommendation of the SclePlor Fiscal
with the concurrence of the Se.or Auditor, it was decided that
it would be inadvisable to establish at the presidio of los
Adais a garrison similar to that at the Port of Vera Cruz
in view of the great expense entailed by the new establish-,
ment and of the almost insuperable difficulties and.of the
absence of an extreme need for it,. Thus did they decree and
affix their rubrics. Signed by the twelve rubrics of=the
followa.ng, sefiares,r.
His Excellency Valcdrcel Addn Altamira
Andreu Barroet,a. Cortillas Miranda
Maza Zelis Bustillos y Varrio
Don Joseph de Gorraes
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8 Mexico, September twenty-six, one thousandDecree
seven hundred fifty-two. I am entirely in accord
with the decisions reached in the foregoing Junta de hacien-
da y "erra; and in order that the contents of the same may
be duly executed, the certified copy ordered for the gover-
nor of the province of Texas shall be made and shall be for-
warded to'hi.m with a letter advising him not only to attend
to the diplomatic negotiations with the commandant of the
presidio of Nachitos, as ordered, with the wisdom called for
by the seriousness of the problem and the close alliance and6v
har0/mony now existing between the two kingdoms, but also
to make his report as soon as he shall have completed the
proceedings entrusted to him in order that the necessary
provisions for the prompt execution of the orders given by
His Majesty in his royal order of the twentieth of June of
one thousand seven hundred fifty-one may be enacted. A
certified copy of these proceedingsbshall be made for the
purpose of informing His Majesty. Signed by His Excellency's
rubric.
A true copy of the originals in the GfioioMemorandum
de Gobierno Z Guerra of this kingdoml,wrhich is
in my chargelfiled with call, the proceedings on the subject
and to which I refer. In order that this may be of record
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as ordered, I issued the present memorandum,. Mexicol
tober three, one thousand seven hundred fifty-two.
Joseph de Gorraes
Official
Act of
obedience
In the royal presidio of Nuestra Senora del
Pilar de los Adaes on the seventeenth day of the
^ month of February of this present year of one
thousand seven hundred fifty-three, having seen the foregoing
decree which, in conformity w ith the decisions reached in the
junta de hacienda y g uerray was issued by the Most Excellent
Sefior Don Juan Francisco de Guemes y Horcasitas, Count;^of
Revillagigedo,. ehamber3ain of His Majesty with admission
to his royal council,, Lieutenant General of the royal ar-
mies, Viceroy, Governor and Captain General of this New
Spain, and President of the royal audiencia of the same, I,
Don Jazinto de Barrios, y Jd:uregui, lieutenant colonel in
the royal armies, governor and captain general by order of
His Majesty of this province of Texas, New Philippines, its
presidios, conversions, and frontiers, declare my absolute
obedience thereto as a precept from my superior, and for the
verification of my prompt observance of the superior orders
and the due execution of all the contents of the same, I.
should order and I do hereby order that we proceed with the
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investigation ordered therein. For this purpose, competent
persons and persons, from among those who came with the
Marquis de San Miguel de Agnaio shall be summoned in order
that they may give definite information, clearly and distinctly,
relative to all the questions deemed advisable to ask them.
For this purpose the requisite interrogatory shall be drafted.
Thus did I decree, order, and sign this before myself and the
attendant witnesses,with whom I am acting in the absence of
a notary public or royal notary, because there is none within
the limits prescribed by law. I certify.
Don Jazinto d e Barrios yJduregui
Attendant witnesses:0 7
Ign. //Thomds de Aro and
Pedro Grahados
In the above-said presidio on the said day,Inter-
month, and year, I, the said governor, in con-rogatory.
formity with my order given in the foregoing
decreet drafted the following interrogatory:
1st. First, the witnesses shall be questioned
about what is the dividing_ line between 1t.he two
monarchies, the Spanish and the French, in the
region between the royal presidio of los Adais and
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tathe site where the presidio, of San Juan Bap.
de Nachitos was formerly located. They shall state
how long, why, and in what manner it had been con-
sidered the boundary,.
2nd. In .answer, to the second question,
they shall state the year in which.the French ad-
vanced into the dominions of our sovereign in the
locality in question.
3rd. In answer, to the third question, they
shall state the amount of land the French had usurped
by the removal of their presidio into the lands of
His Catholic Mlajesty.
4th. In answer, to the fourth question, they
shall state the num'ber, of forts, settlements, or
presidios they cthe French, had constructed in the
dominions of our sovereign..
This was done in the said presidio on the said day.) month,
and yes.r, before me and the attendant w itnesses, with whom
I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:
Zgnacio Thomds de Aro and
Pedro Granados
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lst. Depo-n
sition of D.0
Ju. Morin
In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I, the said governor, for the
execution of the informaci6n which in the fore-
going decree I ordered held, summoned before me
Lieutenant Reformado Don Juan Antonio Morin, whom I certify
I know, to whom in the presence of my attendant witnesses I.
administered the oath, which he took in the name of our Lord
God ,and. a sign of the holy cross, according to law, under
penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in so far as
he knew and might be questioned. When asked the questions of
the interrogatory recorded above, he said:
lst. In answer, to the first question, that
he k:new, because he had heard it when the troops came
to this presidio, that the dividing line between the
two monarchies was the Colorado River, for which
reason he hadalways believed that the Cland, this
side of the banks of the said river belonged to our
Catholic King; and he replied:
2nd. In answer,. to the second question he said
that, in conformity with what he had said in the
foregoing question, the French had crossed over to
this side of the said Colorado River in the year of
cone thousand seven hundred, thirty-five or thirty-
six, while the governor of this province.was Don
Manuel de Sandobal, who was on his general visita
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8at the time; but that long before the removal in
question some of the French had crossed over to
this side, where the deponent also saw three houses
remain without causing surprise where they were
found when by order of the Seor Marquis de San
Miguel de Aguaio their captains went to reconnoiter
the banks of the said river-; and he replied:
3rd. In a:nswer, to the. tna.rd question he said
that he believed that the amount, of land usurped
was about a stonets throw or the distance between
the bank of the said Colorado River where they the
French, now have their presidio which was formerly7v
on the //other side of the said river; and he re-
plied:
1tth. In answer, to the fourth question he
said that he neither knew.nor had heard that the
French had built within the dominions of our sov-
ereign any forts or presidios other than the one
he had mentioned; and that everything he had deposed
was the truth under the oath he had made, which he
affirmed and ratified. When this his deposition had
been read to him, he said he was sixty-eight years
old, more or less. And he signed this with me and
my attendant witnesses, with whom I am acting, as.
stated above. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro and
Pedro Granados
L2nd„. Dep-
osition ofnD. Jph.
Gonzales
Juan Antonio Morin
In the royal presidio on the said. day,
month, and year, I, the said governor, in or-
der to continue with the proceedings in aues-
tion, summoned before me Lieutenannt Reformado
Don Joseph Gonzales l whom I certify I know,
to whom in the preserice of my attendant witnesses I adm.inis-
tered the oath, which he took in the name of our Lord God and
a sign of his holy cross, under penalty of which he prom-
ised totell the truth in so far as he knew and might be ques-
tioned. When asked the. questions of the interrogatory men-
tioned above, he said:
lst. In answer, to the first question, that
° since the arrival of the troops at this presidio, he
had always heard that the dividing line between the
two monarchies was the Colorado River, which the
French called the Rus ,j^ic, for which reason he be-
lieved that the jand, this side of the bank of the
said river belonged to our Catholic King and that
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,the land belonging, to the Most Christian King was
beyond the other bankg where he saw the French set-
tled when he came with the Seftor Marquis de San Mi-
guel de Aguayo, and also that long after what had
occurred three small houses had remained on this
side of the river, without objection; and that the
said river appeared to be the dividing line between
the two kingdoms, as. he was persuaded to believe,
by an incident, which occurred twenty-four years
ago, more or less, when at the request of Don Luis
de San Denis,, the commandant of Nachitos, the Right
Reverend Father President of these missions, Fr,co
Fran. Ballexo, went to baptize one of his St.
Denis', sons with the consent of the local priest.
However, when the latter changed his mind, the said
commandant was annoyed and told the aforesaid Rev-
erend Father President that they could cross to
this side of the said river where the baptism could
take place on land belonging to the Catholic King;
but this was not done; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question he said
that about the year of one thousand seven hundred,
thirty-five or thirty-six, while Don Manuel de San-
dobal was governor of this province, the French
crossed over to this side of the river, where they
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now have a settlement; but that the deponent also
recalled that long before this occurred some vecinos
had come across and that there were still on this
.side three small houses which had been in the same
site at the time of, the entrada of the said Setor
Marquis; and he replied:
3rd. 8c In answer, to the third question he said
that he //thought that the camount of, land occupied
by the French was about a rifle shot; and he replied:
)+th. In answer, to the fourth question he said
that neither before nor after the French moved to
this side of the river, did they build or fortify
any presidios or forts in the dominions of our
sovereign other than the presidio, of Nachitos,
neither had they built or fortified, in their own
,dominions, any besides those they had when the
troops came; and that what he had said and deposed
was thetruth under the oath he had made, which he
affirmed and ratified. He said he. was fifty-three
years old, more or less. And he sitned this with me
and my attendant witnesses, with whom I am acting,
as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Joseph Gonzales
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro and
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Pedro Granados
3rd. Dep-
osition ofn
D. Phe.
1,-IufS.oz
de Mora
In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I. the said governor, for the
execution of these proceedings, summoned be-
fore me Alf^rez Reformado Don Phelipe Muf'!oz
de Mora, whom I certify I know, to whom in
the presence of my attendant witnesses I ad-
ministered the oath, vh.ich he took in the name of our Lord God
and a sign of his holy cross, according to law, under penal-
ty of whi ch he promis ed to tell the truth in so far as he knew
and might be questioned. When asked the questions of the
interrogatory contained in these proceedings, he said:
lsto In answer, to the first question, that the
.dividing line between the two monarchies was the
Colorado River; that in view of this supposition
he considered the land, on this side of the bank
of the said river as the property of our Gatholic
King; that he said this because when the troops came,
he heard Don Luis de San Denis tell the Serior Mar-
quis de an Miguel de Agua.io on the Nechas River
that he could bui].d his presidio on this bank of
the Colorado River, and that for this purpose he
,St. Denis, would move his rancho and two other
houses that were also there; that this report was
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8 also circulated later when by order of the said
Sefior Marquis their captains went with Dr. Coda-
llos to reconnoiter the banks of the said river and
Monsuir rsic, Urn6 ^ who was then comanand ant of Na-
chitos, made the same statement to them that the
aforesaid Don Luis had made, at Nechas; and he re-
plied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question he
said that in the year of one thousand seven hundred,
thirty-four or thirty-five, the French had moved
their presidio to this side of the Colorado River;
that at that time Don Manuel de Sandobal was gover-
nor of this province; but that even before this oc-
currence.some of the French had crossed to this side
of the said.river; and he replied:
3rd. In answer, to the third question he said
that the amount of, land within our dominions oc-
cupied by the French was about a stone's throw; and
he replied:
4th.. In answer, to the fourth question he said8v
that since the French had crossed to this //side of
the river, they had not built any forts or presidios
other than the ^pres3.dio, of Nachitos; that he did
not know whether they had built within their cown,
domain any forts or presidios, besides those they
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had when the troops came; and that everything he had
said and deposed was the truth under the oath he had
made, which he affirmed and ratified. He said he
was sixty-six years old, more or less. And he signed
this with me and my attendant witnesses, with whom
I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Phelipe Muhoz de Mora
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomas de Aro and
Pedro Granados
Don Manl
Antonio
Lo2oia
In the royal presidio of Nuestra Sefiora
del Pilar de los Adays on the nineteenth day
of the month of February of this year of one
thousand seven hundred fifty-three} I, the said
governor, for the execution of these proceedings
surnmoned before me Don Manuel Aritonio Lozoia,
the present lieutenant of the company of this
royal presidio, to whom in the presence of my attendant wit-
nesses I administered the oath, which he took in the name of
our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross, according to law,
under penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in so far
as he knew and might be questioned. When asked to answer the
questions of the interrogatory mentioned above, he said:
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8 lst, In answer, to the first question that
he had always considered the Colorado River as the
dividing line between the two monarchies because
since he came with the SP jo Marquis de San Miguel
de Aguaio he had always heard that the land, on
this side of the aforesaid river belonged to our
Catholic King and,,,the land, on the other side of
the aforesaid river belonged, to the Most Christian
King, on which site the French were settled at the
time of the en trada of the said setor marquis with
the exception of some three houses.which were on
this side of the rivers,that although at that time,.
he,had heard thatAhey were to be moved;to::^the
other side, the deponent observed that they re-
mained where they were; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question he
said that th.e' French had moved their presidio tosite
this side of the river, the/on which they now have
their settlement, in the year of one thousand
seven hundred, thirty-four or thirty-fivet
while the governor of this province was
Don Manuel de Sandobal, who at :^. the time
was in San Antonio, but that even before this some
of the French:had:crossed to this side:of,,the said
river; and he!replied:
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3rd. In answer, to the third question he said
that he judged that the arnount, of the land occupied
by the French was about a stone's throw, for that9
//was the distance between their settlement and the
bank of the said river; and he replied:
4th. In answer, tothe fourth question he said
that he had neither seen nor heard that the French
had built or fortified any forts or presidios other
than the presidio, of Nachitos either in the domin-
ions of our sovereign or in their own dominions,;
- and. that all that he had said and deposed was the
truth under the oath he had made, which he affirmed
and ratified. He said he was fifty-tnree years old,
more or less; and he signed this with me and my at-
tendant witnesses with whom I am acting, as stated
above. I certify.
Barrios Manuel Antonio Lozoia
Attendant witnesses:s
Ignadio Thom. de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,5th.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order to
continue with these proceedings, summoned before me Don
so
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Pedro de Zierra, Alfdrez of the company of this above-said
presidio. I administered to him, before myself and my atten-
dant witnesses, the oath, which he took in the name of our
Lord God and a sign of the holy cross, according to law,
under penalty of which he promised to tell the t ruth in so
far as he knew and might be questioned. When asked to ans-
wer the interrogatory mentioned above, he said:
lst. In answer, to the first question, that
he had always considered the landth.is side of the
bank of the Colorado River as the property of our
king because he had heard from the time that the
troops came that the Colorado River was the dividing
line between the two monarchies, as was proved by
the fact that before the French moved to this side
of the river, they did not pursue their deserters
beyond the opposite bank of the said river, while at
the present time they pursued them as far as Arroio
Hondo; that furthermore, if the said territory had
not been cosidered as the property of our sovereign,
when the commandant of Nachitos was moving over to
this side of the river, Don Manuel de Sandobal would
not have sent him, as he actually did, three letters
requisitorial ^asking him, not to do so; and he re-
plied:
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8 2nd. In answer, to the second question he
said that about the year of one thousand seven hundred,
thirty-four or thirty-five, the French had crossed o-
ver to this side of the Colorado River; but that the
deponent also recalled that priorto this occurrencethey
some of them had crossed over and that/,the French,
had kept three houses on this side of the said river
in the same location they had been when the troops
came; and he replied:
3rd, In answer, to the third question he said
that the amount of,,land occupied by the French must
be about a stone's throw, more or less; and he replied:
c4th „ In answer, to the fourth question he
said that he had neither seen nor heard that the
French had built or fortified any forts or presidios
other than the presidio, of Nachitos in the domin-
ions of our sovereign or that they had built or fort-9v
ified, in the dominions, //of their cown, monarch
any ^forts or presidios, besides those they had when
the troops came; and that everything he had said and
deposed was the truth under the oath he had made,
which he affirmed and ratified. He said he wqs fifty-
one years.old, more or less. And he signed this with
me and my attendant witnesses. I certify.
Barrios Pedro de Cierra
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Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio ThomAs de Aro and
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said dayi6th.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue with these proceedings, summoned before me Mar-
cos Ruis, a vecino of this above-said presidio whom T certify
I know. In the presence of my attendant witnesses, I admins-
tered to him the oath, which he took in the name of our Lord
God and a sign of his holy cross, according to law, under
penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in so far
as he knew and might be questioned. When asked to answer
the foregoing interrogatory he said:
ist. In answer, >to. the first question, that
since the troops earne he had always heard that the
dividing line between the two monarchies was the
Colorado River and that he had always considered
,the land, on this side of its bank as the property
of Spain and the land, on the other side as the
property, of France; that this was verified by what
he had heard Don Luis de San Denis, who was comman-
dant of Hachitos, say to the hight Reverend.Fatherco
President of these missions,Fr. Fran. Ballejo,
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who had gone at his request to baptize on of his
sons. When the local priest, after having given
his consent thereto, objected, the said commandant,
turning to the aforesaid father president, told him
that they would cross to this side of the river
and that the baptism could be held on property of
,the Gatholic King. However, this did not take
place. The deponent said, that he did not know of
any instrument whatever in wbich it was of record,
that the Colorado River was the sole dividing line
or, as he had also hear4that the Great Mountain
or Arroio Hondo should be the diliding line between
the two monarchies; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question he
said that about the year of one thousand seven
hundred, t1hirty-five or thirty- six, while Don Ma-
nuel de Sandobal was governor of this province,
the French had crossed over to this side of the
river, but that some of the French had done so
previously and also that three houses had remained
on the same site where they had been when the troops
came; and he replied:
3rd...,In answer, to the third question he.said
that the amount of, landthe French had appropriated
by moving to this side of the river was about a
stone's throw; and he replied:
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104th4k In answer, to the fourth question //he
said that from the time the troops came to date, he
had neither seen nor heard that the French had built
or fortified any forts or presidio other than the
.presidio, of Nachitos in the dominions of our sov-
ereign; neither did he know of their having done so
in their own dominions, during all the aforesaid
period; and that what he had said and deposed was the
truth under the oath he had made, which he affirmed
and ratified. He said he was fifty-two years old,
more or iess. And he signed this with me and my
attendant wi:tnesses ^ cw3.th whom I am acting, as
stated above. I certify.
Barrios Marcos Ruiz
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,7th.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order to
continue with these proceedings, surnrnoned before me Corporal
Phelipe de Zierra, whom I certify I know7 to whom before
myself and the witnesses I am using in the absence of a not-
ary, I administered the oath, which he took in the name of..
our Lord God and a sign of his holy(cross,.accord3ng to law,
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under penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in so
far as he knew and-might be questioned. When asked to answer
the interrogatory mentioned above, he said:
1st. rIn a_nswer, to the first question, that
he had always considered as the property of our Ca-
tholic King the lands on which the presidio of Na-
chitos was now located because from the time the
troops came he had heard that the Colorado River
was the dividing line between the two monarchies,
as was verified by the three lettezs requisitorial
sent by Governor Sandobal to the comm-andant of Na-
chitos at the time he the latter, was moving to this
side of the said river, from which may be inferred
that if this site had not belonged to our sovereign,
the aforesaid letters requisitorial would not have
been sent to the said commandant. The deponent
csaid, that he did not know of any instrument what-
ever in which it was of record, that the said river
was the dividing line or that the Great Mountain
should be the dividing line, or Arroio Hondo, which
he had also heard, although by common report, was the
dividing line between the two monarchies; and he
replied:
2nd, cIn answer, to the second question he said
that the French had crossed over to this side of the
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river about the year of cone thousand seven hundred,
thirty-four or thirty-five,y, but that much longer
before this eventsome of them had crossed over;
and also.that three houses tha.t _were on this side
of the:said river when the troops carne had not been_„
moved.to the other side; and he replied:
3rd. In answer, to the third question he
said that the;tamount of, land the French had ap-
propriated txfhen they moved to this side ofthe river,l4v
where they //were : now settled, was about. a stone's
throw; and he replied:
4th. In answer, to the - fourth question he
said that theFrench had not built or fortified in
the dorninions of our sovereign-any:forts or:;presi-
da.os other than the presidio,. of 'Nachito's nor s in
their iovn: dominions, any besides.t hose they_ had
when the troops ca.me;and that all he had said and°-
deposed was the firuth under the oath he had made,
which he affirmed and ratified; He said:he was
fifty-three years old' more or less, and he signed
this with me and my attendant.witnesses? with whom
I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Phelipe de Zierra
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
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In the said royal presidio on the said day,8th.
month, and year, I, the said governor, for the
execution of the proceedings I am holding, summoned be-
fore me hdzaro lbafiez, a vecino of this above-said pre-
sidio, to whom in the presence of my attendant witnesses
I administered the.oath, which he took in the name of our
Lord )God and a sign of his holy cross, 'accordi ng to law,
under penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in
so far as he knew and might be questioned. When asked
to,-answer the interrogatory mentioned above, he said:
1st. . In answer, to the first question,
that since the troops came he had always heard
that the Colorado River was the dividing line
between ihe two monarchies and that because of
this supposition, he had always considered as
the property of our sovereign the,land, this
side of-_the bank of the said river and as the
property of the king of France, the land, on
the other side of the same eriver,9 and that
this was:corra:borated by his.having heard at
that time that three houses that were on this
side of the river.were to be.moved to the-other.
side; and that although they had remaine1lon
the same site.without objection, the deponent
had always'understood that the said r:iver. was
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the boundary, notwithstanding the rumor that
had also spread that it the boundary, was
the Great. 11ountain or Arroio Hondo; and he
replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question
he said that the French had moved to this side
of the Colorado River in the year of.,one thous-
and seven.h.undred, thirty-four or thirty-five;
but that some had already done so prior.to this
occurence; and he replied:
.3id. in answer, to the third question he
said that the amount of, land the French hadwas
occupied in the dominions of our sovereign/about
a stone's throw; and he replied:
4th,. In answer, to the fourth question
he said that the French had not built or fort-.
ified in the dominions of our sovereign any
forts or presidios besides the,presidio, of
Nachitos; and that all he had said and deposed
was the truth under the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratified. He did not sign be-
cause he did not know how. He said he was fifty-
two years old, more or less. I signed this with
my attendant witnesses. I certify .
Barrios
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i Attendant witnesses:11.
//Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
•
In the royal.presidio of Nuestra Sefiora de9th.
el Pilar de los Adais on the twentieth day of the
month of rjebruary of this year of one thousand seven hun-
dred fifty-three, I, the said governor, in order to con-
tinue with the informaci6n which I am holding by order of
theMost Excellent Senor Viceroy, summoned before me
Joseph Antonio Rosales,a vecino of this said presidio,
whom I certify I know, to whom, in the presence of the
witnesses I am using in the absence of a notary, I ad-
ministered the<oath* which he took in the name of our
Lord God and a sign'of his holy cross, under penalty of
which he promised to tell the truth in so far as he knew
and.mig.ht be questioned. When asked to answer the inter-
rogatory mentioned'above, he said:
lste .In answer, to the first question, that
he did not know definitely what was the dividing
line between the two znonarchies becsuse although
he had heard since the troops came that it was
the Colorado River rand that the land, this side
of the bank of the said -river, belonged to our
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Catholic King and cthe land, on the other side
rbelonged, to the Most Christian King, he had
also heard that the dividing line between the
two monarchies was the Great Mountain or Arroyo
Hondo. But since, on the basis of what he had
said, he must form an opinion as to which of
the two places should be the dividing line, the
deponent was inclined to believe, that it was
the Colorado River not only because, when the
French moved their presidio to this side of the
said river, letters requisitorial were sent three
times to the commandant of the same asking him
not to do it, but also because when the Marquis.
of San Miguel de Aguaio came, he the deponen.t,
heard that the commandant who was then in Na-
chitos told the Spaniards when they went to
reconnoiter the banks of the said river that
they could locate their presidio on the site
where the said presidio, of Nachitos is now
located, for which purpose three houses that
were then on this side of the said'river would
be moved to the other 'side; but that notwiths-
tanding what has been stated, the deponent saw
them remain where they were; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question
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8he said that about the year of one thousand
seven hundred, thirty-four or thirty-five the
French had crossed over to this side of the
said river, but that prior to this some of
them had already done;-so; and he replied:
3rd. In answer, to the third question
he said that, in case the said river was the
dividing line, the a.mount of, land the French
had occupied was about a stone's throw; and he
replied:
I+th. In answer,.to the fourth question
he said that the French had not built or for-
tified in the dominions of our sovereign anyliv
//presidio other than that of Nachitos•, and
that everything he had said and deposed was
the truth under the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratified. He said he was fifty-
five years old, more or less; and he signed this
with me and my attendant witnesses^ with whom
I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Joseph An.tonio Rosales
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomd.s de Aro
Pedro Granad.os
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In the said royal presidio on the said dayiloth.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue with these proceedings, summoned before me
Gaietano Games, a vecino of this above-said presidio,
whom I certify I know, to whom before myself and my at-
tendant witnesses I administered the oath, which he took
in the name of our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross,
according to law} under penalty of which he promised to
tell the truth in so far as he knew and might be ques-
tioned. When asked to answer the interrogatory mentioned
above, he said:
lst. In answer, to the first question,
that he did not know positively what was the
dividing line between the two monarchies be-
cause to this day he had not learned of any
instrum:ent whatever in which was recorded what
should be the dividing Zine,. The deponent
said, that he was of the opinion that the said
Colorado River must be the dividing line between
the two monarchies because of what took place
as he had heard, when by order of the setor
Marquis de San Miguel de Aguaio his captains
went to reconnoiter the banks of the said
Colorado River; namely that when they told the
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.commandantl who was then Monsuir sic, Urn6,
that they had come in the name of the Catholic
King to establish a presidio there, the said
commandant agreed thereto saying that they
could build it on the bank this side of the
said river, for which purpose three houses that
were then on this side would be moved to the
other side,. This opinion was proved as true
by what the deponent heard that the aforesaid
commandant had said on the same occasion when
he advised the above-said Spaniards to go up
the Caudachos River and that all the land,
reconnoitered on this side of the river would
belong to Spain and all on the other side would
belong, to France; but that this reconnoitering
expedition did hot take place, neither did the
removal of the aforesaid houses to the other
side of the river;; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question.
he said that the French had moved to this side
of the Colorado River, where they were now
settled, the year of one thousand seven hundred,
thirty-four or thirty-five, but that prior to12
this some of them had already //done so; and
he replied:
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3rd. in answer, to.the third question
he.said that the amount of,.land occupied by
the French in the dominions of our monarch was
about a stone's throw;.and he replied:
4th, r In ariswer, to the fourth question
he said that he neither knew nor had heard
that the French.had constructed any forts or
presidios in the dominions of.our sovereign
other than the presidio, of Nachitos; and
that all he had said and deposed was the truth
under the oath he had made, which he affirmed
and ratified. He said he was fifty-three years
old, more or less. And he signed this with me
and my.attendant witnesses, as stated above.
I certify.
Barrios Caietano Games
Attendant witnesses:0 s
Ign. Thom. de Aro
Pedro Granados
llth.In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue with these proceedings, sumrnoned before me
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0 Christ6bal de Santiago from the garrison of this royal
presidio, to whom before myself and my attendant witnes-
ses I administered the oath, which he took in the name of
our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross, according to
lawi under penalty of which he promised to tell the truth
in so far as he knew and might be questioned. When asked
to answer the interrogatory stated above, he saida
lst. ;In answer, to the first question,
that what he knew as to what should be the di-
viding line between the two monarchies was that
the Sefior Marquis de San Miguel Aguaio, a few
days after his arrival at the place where this
presidio now stands, sent his captains to recon-
noiter this side of the banks of the Colorado
River, Upon being met by the commandant who was -
then at Nachitos, they told him that they had
come in the name of our Catholic King to es-
tablish a presidio here. The said commandant
agreed thereto saying that they could locate
it on the bank of the said riverl which would
serve as a dividing line between the two monar-
chies, and that for this purpose three houses
which were on this side of the river would be
moved to the other side; butthe deponent saw
them remain in the same place. The deponent
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said, that he knew what he had said because
he had heard it and that he had heard, also
that the Great Mountain or Arroio Hondo was
the. dividing line between Nachitos and los
Adais; and he replied:
2nd. In answer, to the second question
he said that about the year of rone thousand
seven hundred, thirty-four or thirty-five the
French crossed over to this side of the Colo-
rado River but that others of them, had already
done so long before this; and he replied:°
3rd. In answer, to the third question
he said that the amount of, land that the
French had occupied in the dominions of our
sovereign was about a stone's throw; and he
replied:
4th. In answer, to the fourth question12v
he said that from the time the troops //cs.me,
to date, the French had not built or fortified
in the dominions of our Catholic King any forts
or presidios other than the presidio, of Na-
chitos; and that everything he had said and
deposed was the truth under the oath he had
made, which he affirmed and ratified. He said
he was fifty-three years old, more or less.
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Be did not sign because he did not know how. I,
the said governor, signed this with my attendant
witnesses. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:s
Ignacio Thom. de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day, month,12th.
and year, I, the said governor' for the execution of
the proceedings I am holding by order of the Most Excellent
S. efior Viceroy, summoned before me Manuel Salbador de Pozos
from::.the garrison of this above-said presidio .:to:'..% whom, ,.in the
presence of my:attendant.witnesses:I adm3.nistered;:;the aath^
which he took in the name of our Lord God and a. sign of the
hoiy cross, under penalty of which he promised to tell the
truth in so far as he knew and might be questioned. When
asked.to answer the interrogatory stated above7.he said:.
lst. In answer, to the first question, that
in view of the fact that so much time had intervened, . ,since the troops came, he could not answer the con-
_. .r.that ^.-tents of the question in detail, but/from what he
recalled of the-information that came to his atten-
tion"at the time, the deponent presumed that the
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dividing line between the two monarchies was the
Colorado River. He based this statement on the
fact that when the Spaniards proceeded to recon-
noiter the banks of the said rivers it was gener-
ally rumared that the land, on this side of the
bank belonged to Spain and the land, on the other
side belonged, to France. By the same general
report the deponent had also heard that three
houses that were on this side of the river, were
to be moved to the other side; and since they were
left in the same iocation, the deponent inferred
that the laxity and dissimulation ethat permitted
this, was the source of the opinion that the said
river, was the dividing line between the two mon-
archies, and that this also made more plausible
the report which was spread to the effect that the
dividing line between the two presidios was the
Great Mountain or Harraio Hondo; and he replied:
2nd. ^In answer, to the second question he
said that the French moved their presidio to this
side of the said river, on whose bank they now were
settled, the year of zone thousand seven hundred,
thirty-four or thirty-five; but that the deponent
also recalled that prior to the said event some
French people had crossed to the same locality;
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8 and he replied:13
3rd. In answer, to the third question //he
said that the iamount of, land usurped by the French
from our Catholic King was about a stone's throw,
that is to say, in the event that the said river
was the dividing line; and he replied:
4th. In answer, to the fourth question he
said that' assuming that what he had said in the
foregoing question was truei since the troops came,
the French had not constructed or fortified in the
doffiinions of our monarch any.presidios other than
that of Nachitos; and that everything he had said
and deposed was the truth.under the oath he had
made, which he affirmed and ratified, He said he
was seventy years old, more or less. And he did
not sign because he did not know how. I7 the said
governor, signed this with my attendant witnesses'
.with whom I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
r In the royal presidio of Nuestra SenoraDecree for
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del Pilar de los Adais on the twenty-second
day of the month of February of this year of
one thousand seven hundred fifty-threel I,nesses # to
by the wit-
Don Jaz. de Barrios y Jdureguit governor and
captain general of this province.of Texas, New Philippines,
in view of the proceedings which I have held by order of the
Most Excellent SePior Viceroy and of the fact that the wit-
nesses who have deposed are competent and ancient settlers
of this above-said presidao9 should decl.are. them the said
proceedings, as sufficient for the purpose indicated by the
said Most Excellent Ge^ior in his decree of the twenty-sixth
of September of the past year of one thousand seven hundred,
fifty-two. And in view of the foregoing I order the witnesses
to ratify their depositions in order to determine whatever may
be advisable.in view thereof. Thus did I decree, order, and
sign this before myself and my attendant witnesses, .̂ with
whom I am acting, as stated above. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:0 s
Ion. Thom. de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I, the said governor' for the
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execution of the order I have given in the foregoing decree,
summoned before me Don Juan Antonio Morin, one of the wit-
nesses examined in these proceedings. In the presence of my
attendant witnesses I administered to him the oath, which he
took in the name of our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross,
according to laws under penalty of which he.promised to tell
the truth. When the deposition on folio 14, which he has
made, had been read to him berbo ad berbum, he said that
everything contained therein was the truth about what he had
been asked, under penalty of the oath he had made and.which
.he affirmed and ratified, and that he would make the same
statement again one, two! and three times, and as many
ctimes, as was required by law; and that he had nothing to
add or to retract. And he signed this with me and my attend-13v
ant witnesses, with whom I am acting,, as //stated above. I
certify.0
Barrios Juan Ant. Morin
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomis de Aro
Pedro Granados
2nd,1In the said royal presidio on the said dayl month,
and year, It the said governor for the execution of the
order I have given in the foregoing decree, summoned before me
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Don Joseph Gonzales, former lieutenant of this company. In
the presence of my attendant witnesses I administered to him
the oath, which he took in the name of our Lord God and a
sign of his holy cross, according to law; under penalty of
which he promised to tell the truth about what he might be
asked.. When the deposition on folio 14 verso, which he has
made, had been read to him berbo.ad berbum^ he replied that
he had said and deposed everything contained therein as
written therein; and that this was the truth under the oath
he had made, which he affirmed and ratified; and thati if
necessary, he would say it again one7 two, and three times
and as many times, as was necessary according to law;.and
.that he had nothing to add or to retract. And he signed this
with my attendant witnessses, with whom I am acting,.as
stated above.. I certify.
Barrios Joseph Gonzales
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day' month,3rd.
and year.! I, the said governor, in order to continue
with these proceedings, summoned before me Alfdrez Reformado
Phelipe Nlufioz de Mora, whom I certify I know., I administered
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i to- him the oath, which he took in: the name of our hord God
.and;.:a sign of. his holy cross^ according, to lawq under penalty
of .lvrhich he,promised to tell. the truth..When. the deposition
on folio _ 15 verso , which he has made s had been.. r. ead to,hizn
berbo ad berbum, he said that he had said and deposed every-
thing.:contained therein as written therein and that it was
the.truth about what he had.been asked under-penalty of.;the
oe.th he :had 1madej which., he affirmed.and ratified,,: and that:;
hewould say it,again one' twos and three times and as many
times,,as was necessary aceording,.to_law; that he had nothing
to add..or to retract. And he signed this with.me and my at-
tendant^°.w'itnessesq with whom I am.acting, as stated above,;
I certify, ,
Barrios Phelipe Mufioz de Mora
.Attendantwitnesses:S.
Ignaeio .: Thom. de Aro . and
. Pedro Granados
In. the royal presidio of Nuestra Sefior:a del Pilar
de 3os Adais on the:twenty-third day:of the month_of:::
February of this year of one thousarid seven hundred fifty-
three, I, the said governor, in order to continue with these
proceedings, summoned before me the present lieutenant Don14
Manuel Antonio Lozoia, whom I. certify I//know, Before myself
4th,
8and the witnesses I am using absence of a notary, I
administered to him the oath., which he took in the name of
our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross, according to law,
under penalty of which he promised to tell the truth in so
far as he knew and might be quest3.oned, When his deposition
on folio 15 had been read to him berbo ad berbzam and he had
understood the same, he replied that he had said and dCposed
everything contained therein as written therein; and that it
was the truth under penalty of the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratified; and that if necessary he would say
it again one, two, and three times, and as many ctimes, as
was necessary according to law; and that he had nothing to
add or to retract. And he signed this with me and my attend.r-
ant witnesses, with whom I am acting, as stated above. I
certify.
Barrios Manuel Antonio Lozoia
Attendant witnesses:0
Ign. Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day, month,5th•
and year$ I, the said governor, in order to continue
with these proceedings I am holding, summoned before me the
present alf^rez, Don Pedro de Zierra, whom I certify I know.
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I administered to him the oath which he took in the name
ofoour Lord God^ according to law, v'nder penalty of which
he promised to tell the truth. When his deposition on
folio 26 verso had been read to him berbo ad berbum, and
he had understood the same, he.replied that he had said
and deposed everything contained therein as written there-
in; and that it was the truth, which he affirmed and
ratified; that he had nothing to add or to retraet. And
he signed this with me and my attendant witnesses. I
certify.
Barrios Pedro de Zierra
Attendant witnesses:0
Ign. Thom.ds de Aro
Pedro Granados
6th.In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order to
continue with these proceedings, summoned before me Mar-
cos Ruia, a vec3.no of this royal presidio. Before myself
and the attendant witnesses I am using in the absence of
a notary, I administered to him the oath, which he took
in the name of our I,ord s,God and a sign of his holy cross,
according to law, under penalty of which he promised to
tell the truth. When his deposition on folio 17 verso
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had been read to him berbo ad berbum and he had understood
the same, he replied that he had said and deposed every-
thing contained therein as written therein; and that it
was the truth under the oath he had made, which he affirmed
and. ratified; and.that, if necessary, he would say it
again, one, two, and three times, and as many times, as
was necessary according to law. He had nothing to add orl4v
//to.retract. And he signed this before me and my atten-
dant witnesses ) with whom I am e:cta.ng, as stated above.
I certify. .
Barrios Marcas Ruiz
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro .
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,7th,
month, and year, I,.the said governor, for the
,execution'of these proceedings summoned before me Cor-
poral Phelipe de Zierra. In the presence of the atten-
dant witnesses with whom I am acting in the absence of
a,_notary public or royal notary, I administered to him
the°oath, which he took in the name of our Lord God and
a sign of his holy cross, according to law, under penalty
of.which he promised to tell^the^truth,. When his depo-
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.sition on folia 18 had been read to him berbo ad berbum
and he had understood the same, he replied that he had
said and deposed everything contained therein as written.
therein; and that it was, the truth, which he affirmed
and ratified; and if necessary, he would say it again
one, two, and three times, and as many times, as was
necessary according to law. He had nothing to add or to
retract. And he signed this with.me and my attendant
witnesses, with whom I am acting, as stated above,- I
certify.
Barrios Phelipe de.2ierra
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,8th.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue,with these proceedings, summoned before me
L3zaro Ibdfiez,, a vecino of this royal presidio whom I
certify I know. In the presence of myattendant witnes-
ses I administered to him the oath, which he took in the
name of our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross, ac-
cording to law' under penalty of which he promised to tell
the truth. When his deposition of folio 18 verso had
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8 been read to him berbo ad berbum and he had understood
the same, he replied that he had said and deposed every-
thing contained therein as written therein; and that it
was the truth under penalty of the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratified•, and if necessary, he would say
it again one, two, and three times, and as many times,
as was necessary according to law. He had nothing to
.a.dd or to retract. And he did not sign because he did
not know how. I, the, said governor, signed with my at-
tendant witnesses, with whom I.am acting, as stated
above. I:certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:0 s
Ign. Thom. de Aro
Pedro Granados
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In the roygl presidio of Nuestra Seflora del9th.
Pilar de los A.dais, on the twenty-fourth day of
the month of February, of this year of one thousand seven
hundred fifty-three, I, the said governor, in order to
continue with these proceedings, summoned //before me
Joseph Antonio Rosales, a vecino of this said royal pre-
sidio, whom I certify I know. In the presence of my
attendant witnesses I admiaistered to him the oath' which
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8 he took in the name of our Lord God and a sign of his
holy cross, according to law, under penalty of which he
promised to tell: the truth, When his deposition on folio
19 had been read to him berbo ad berbum and he had unders-
tood the contents of the same, he said that he had said
and deposed everything contained therein as written there-
in,'and,that it was the truth under penalty of the oath
he had made, which he affirmed and ratified; and if neces-
sary he would say it again,one,ltwo, and three times and
as many times, as was necessary according to law. He
had nothing to add or to retract. And he signed this with
me and my attendant witnesses, with whom I am acting,
as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Joseph Antonio Rosales
Attendant witnesses:
3gnacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
10th.In the said royal presidio on the said day,
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue with these proceedings, summoned before me
Caietano Games, whom I certify I know. Before myself
and my attendant witnesses I administered to him the oath,
'which he took in the name of our Lord God and a sign of
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8 his holy cross, according to law, under penalty of which
he promised to tell the truth about what he might be asked.
When his deposition on folio 20 had been read to him berbo
ad berbum and he had understood the contents of the same,
he replied that he.had said and deposed everything contained
therein as written therein; and that it was the truth
under the oath he had made, which he affirmed and ratified.
He had nothing to add or to retract. And.he signed this
with me and my attendant witnesses, with whom :T am acting,
as stated above. I certify.
Barrios Oaietano Oames
Attendant witnesses:
Ignacio Thomds de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the said royal presidio on the said day,llth.
month, and year, I, the said governor, in order
to continue with these proceedings, summoned before me
Christ6bal de Santiago from the garrison of this royal
presidio. Before myself and my attendant witnesses, I
administered to him the oath, which he took in the name
of our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross, according
to law, under penalty of which he promised to tell the
truth. When his deposition on folio 20 verso had been
in
read to him berbo ad berbum and he had understood the con-
tents of the same, he replied that he had said and deposed
everything contained therein as written therein; and
that it was the truth under the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratifii^^ and that he would say it again
one, two, and three //times and as many times, as was
necessary according to law. He.had nothing to add or to
retract. And he did not sign because he did not know how.
I9 the said governorl signed this with my attendant wit-
nesses, with whom I am acting, as stated above. I cer-
tify.
Barrios
Attendan.t witnesses:
Ignacio TY?omds de Aro
Pedro Granados
12th,In the said royal presidio on the said day,
montN and year, I, the said governor, in order to
continue with these proceedings summoned before me Manuel
Salbador de Pozos, to whom in the presence of my atten-
dant witnesses I administered the oath, which he took in
the name of our Lord God and a sign of his holy cross,
according to law, under penalty of which he promised to
tell the truth. When his deposition on folio.21 had been
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read to him berbo ad berbum and he had understood the
contents of the same, he replied that he had said and
deposed everything contained therein as written therein;
and that it was the truth under the oath he had made, which
he affirmed and ratified, He had nothing to add.or to
retract. And he did not sign bec4use he did not know
how. I, the said governor, signed it with my attendant
witnesses, with whom I am acting, as stated above. I
certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:0 s
Ign. Thom, de Aro
Pedro Granados
In the roygl presidio of Nuestra Sefiora de1. Filar
de los Adais on the twenty-eighth day of the month of
February of this year of one thousand seven hundred fifty-
three, having examined with due care and thought these
proceedings which I have held by virtue of the foregoing
superior decree of the twenty-sixth of September of the
past year of one thousand seven hundred fifty-two issued
by the Most Excellent ieaor Viceroy in conformity with
the decision reached in the 'tunta de hacienda Y Zu, erra
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8 of the twenty-fifth of the same month and year, ? Don
Jazinto de Barrios y Jduregui, governor and captain general
of'this province of Texas, New Philippines, am of the
opinion that because of the differences in the deposition
of the witnesses the findings of the same proceedings,
do not affirm with the requisite certainty what should be
the dividing line between the above-said presidio and the
place where the presidio, of San Juan Baptista de Na-
ch.itos formerly stood. Consequently, in order to execute
the orders given to me in the said superior decree, and
to proceed with the wisdom and cirsumspee.tion called for'
by so important a matter as this, I believe that I should16
first and foremost notify the said //Most Excellent Senor
with the same sproceedings, to the end that in view there-
of he may give me my orders as to what I should do about
the matter in question. And in order that the foregoing
may be promptly and duly executed, I order that a complete
certified copy of these proceedings be made to be filed
in this archive for the contingencies that may occur
cand that3 the originals be forwarded to the said Most
Excellent Viceroy. Thus did I decree, order, and sign this
with my attendant witnesses, with whom I am acting, as
stated above. I certify.
Barrios
Attendant witnesses:
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sIgnacio Thom. de.Aro
Pedro Granados
A true copy of the original on twenty-six valid folios,
which was forwarded to the superior tribunal of the Most
Excellent Selior Viceroy, to which I refer. It was faith-
fully copied, proofread, and corrected. The witnesses
who saw it copied were Don Juan Antonio Morin9 Ignacio
ThomAs de Aro, and Juan de Lara, vecinos and presidial
men of this royal presidio where this was done on the
fourth day of the month of March of this year of one
thousand seven hundred fifty-three, and on sixteen valid
folios of common paper because there was none of the
requisite stamped paper, in this province; authorized
by me, Don Jacinto de Barrios y JAureguij governor and
captain general by order of His Majesty (may God guard
him) of the same, acting for the receptoria in the ab-
sence of a notary public or royal notary„ I certify.