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MINUTES OF MEETING – Community Liaison Group (CLG) Wanneroo Road
/ Joondalup Drive Interchange Meeting 4
Date: Tuesday, 13 February 2018 Time: 18:00-20:00 Location:
Carramar Community Centre, 5 Rawlinna Parkway, Carramar
Distribution: All CLG members and meeting visitors and
guests
Attendees: Ian Hammond IH Carramar and Tapping Residents
Association
Steve Hamilton SH Carramar Resident
Steve Bennett SB Senior Development Manager, LandCorp Michael
Richards MR President, Banksia Grove Residents’ Association
Lom Piggott LoP Public Transport Authority Jean Castro JC
Treasurer, Wanneroo Residents Association
Steve Luplau SL Kinross Resident Barry McEloney BM Tapping
Resident
Max Wilson MW Carramar Resident Linton Pike LiP Independent
Facilitator, Estill & Associates
Graeme Budge GB Project Manager – Infrastructure Projects, City
of Wanneroo
Sarah Fry SF Carramar Resident
Guests: Chris Raykos CRa
Project Director (Construction), Main Roads
Steve Cole StC Project Manager Delivery, Main Roads
Kugan Kugananthan
KK Acting Project Director, Main Roads Kathryn Carew-Hopkins CKH
Strategic Communications, Main Roads
Chris Rickard CRi Strategic Communications Specialist, Main
Roads
Apologies: Avi Barua AB City of Joondalup Ray Thompson RT
Settlers Ridgewood Rise Lifestyle Village
Eamonn Gilmore EG Carramar Resident Harminder Singh
HS Director Assets, City of Wanneroo
Sabine Winton MLA
SW Member for Wanneroo
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1 MEETING PURPOSE AND PROCESS
Linton Pike (facilitator) welcomed participants explaining the
meeting purpose and agenda.
2 PREVIOUS MEETING
Linton Pike asked for comment or changes on the previous meeting
summary. No changes to the previous summary meeting summary were
requested.
ACTIONS ARISING
ACTIONS ARISING FROM AUGUST 2017 MEETING
RESPONSE PROVIDED AT OCTOBER MEETING
School peak times are factored into the modelling for Houghton
Dr and shows the intersection to be mostly free flowing. We will
prepare comparisons for other intersection treatments as well.
ACTION: Alex
All affected local intersections were analysed with traffic
modelling including school peak traffic and planned future growth
and development.
Some modifications are proposed to a number of intersections
with Wanneroo Road and Joondalup Drive to ensure safe and efficient
capacity is available in the future. This will be covered further
to a certain degree later in this meeting.
3 PROJECT UPDATE
Chris Raykos provided a project update including a video drive
through along Joondalup Drive in both directions (to the west
initially and then the return journey east bound on a weekday
morning (7:50am). The video showed significant dwell time at the
Joondalup Drive and Wanneroo Road intersection and west bound
traffic queues from the intersection back to St Stephens Crs.
Smaller queues are also shown at Burns Beach Road intersection with
Joondalup Drive.
Chris Raykos went on to explain that:
• City of Wanneroo population expected to grow to 400,000 by
2041
• Provision of key transport infrastructure required to support
urban development east of Wanneroo Road
• Joondalup Drive is the major east-west route that will be used
to access areas to the west including the Joondalup City Centre,
Mitchell Freeway, the train station/line and coastal area.
• Traffic modelling indicates that within five years, service
levels will deteriorate at the intersection due to increased
demand.
• Funding commitment enables us to bring forward a long term
solution at this intersection
Intersection performance and failure information follows over
the page:
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Intersection Failure Analysis shows the following:
Level of Service (LoS) is an index of the operational
performance of an intersection – The Y axis of this Graph expresses
LoS in terms of delay (in seconds) which is quantified as the
difference between the time it would take to complete the movement
under free flow (or uncontrolled) conditions and the time it
actually takes. The overall intersection delay is then the weighted
average of the delay associated with each intersection movement to
give an overall LoS within the range of A to F.
The analysis for the intersection of Wanneroo road and Joondalup
Drive shows that the current level of service is “D” in both
morning and afternoon peaks and will further deteriorate to LoS “E”
in the afternoon and “F” in the morning peak by 2031 as shown
below.
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The diagram below shows the percentage of movements each leg of
the intersection contributes to total vehicle movements through the
intersection after the opening of the Mitchell Freeway Extension to
Hester Avenue. More than half of all vehicle movements through the
intersection are going straight through along Joondalup Drive. By
grade separating this movement and removing the conflict points,
the remaining movements through the intersection can operate with
much higher safety and efficiency.
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Chris Raykos explained the Safe System approach to road user
safety adopted here based upon the following model.
The Safe system matrix gives consideration to:
• Exposure – refers to which road users, in what numbers and for
how long
• Likelihood – refers to factors affecting probability of a
crash.
• Crash severity – refers groups of factors affecting the
probability of severe injury outcomes should the crash occur.
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A number of questions and answers followed as shown below:
Q Can Main Roads clarify its communications with local schools
regarding the St Stephens Cres closure issue?
A
Main Roads will respond to community concerns and address the
impacts for local roads including left in/out modifications where
they are required. A two page newsletter is already on the Main
Roads webpage and has been shared with schools.
Newsletters were distributed around Tapping (to Ashely Rd in the
south and Waldburg Drive in the east) during w/c 12 Feb.
A briefing was held with St Stephen’s School in December 2017
and offered to Tapping Primary in January 2018. Ongoing information
is being shared with both schools.
A more general, four page newsletter will go out to around
10,000 homes along Wanneroo Road as far north as Old Yanchep Rd,
Pinjar Road and into Banksia Grove in early March.
Q Are road users complaining about this intersection since the
Mitchell Freeway Extension opened?
A
Prior to the Mitchell Freeway Extension, Wanneroo Road and
Joondalup Drive was the sixth-worst performing intersection in the
metropolitan area, attracting numerous complaints. While the volume
of complaints has reduced as a result of the project, performance
at the intersection will again deteriorate to Level of Service “E”
by 2023.
Q Is there an urgent need for this project?
A
There is a very strong project need and justification with
earlier intersection works undertaken as an interim solution. The
level of service associated with this intersection is deteriorating
quickly and the longer we leave the project the more difficult it
will become to complete these works under increasing traffic
volumes.
4 PROJECT DEVELOPMENT UPDATE
Chris Raykos explain the designs proposed for a number of
intersections as shown below.
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Joondalup Drive and Burns Beach Road intersection is proposed to
be improved as shown below.
The eastbound movement from Burns Beach Road is simplified with
a dedicated slip lane and a free flowing slip west bound along
Joondalup Drive. Provision for future ramp metering (traffic
signals on one approach is made to maintain efficient traffic
flows.
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Drovers Market Place access provides for left in/out access to
and from Joondalup Drive with right turn emergency access provision
as shown below.
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The Wanneroo Road and Joondalup Drive intersection is modified
with a bridge over Wanneroo Road and improved left turn slip
movements as shown below. Pedestrian refuge Islands are included on
the northern approach leg and southern departure leg. Shared paths
for pedestrian and cycle movements are shown in purple.
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Changes to the local road network in Tapping are also proposed
as shown below.
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Water Corporation’s proposed works through this area will also
be completed by the road works contractor with the replenishment
corridor shown in red below.
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Other optional works considered for inclusion but not yet funded
are:
Four way signalised intersection at Wanneroo Road / Clarkson
Avenue
Roundabout at the intersection of Joondalup Drive / Cheriton
Drive
A pier to Bridge No.1824 that has an architectural form more
bold and unique than the designs commonly used for Perth road
bridges.
These possible inclusions are shown below but are not currently
included in the scope of works.
Wanneroo Road / Clarkson Avenue intersection.
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Joondalup Drive / Cheriton Drive intersection
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Pier Treatments
Main Roads is looking for designs, patterns and colours that
combines the piers into a harmonious overall bridge composition
including noise wall / screen, abutment walls, super structure,
lighting and barriers to deliver something different to the norm
with a traditional solution shown.
Public Art
Main Roads has included a provisional sum for public art within
the contract. The scope of this work will be developed via
engagement with the local schools and the ECU Arts Department will
be assisting in this process. Separate to the Public Art, the
proponents will be submitting overall aesthetic treatment for the
bridge abutments, approach retaining walls, noise and screen walls
as part of their proposals. The importance of these aesthetics has
been made clear to them throughout the procurement process
Western Power Line Relocations
Western Power is still developing their design. Targeting having
relocations completed in 2018 but may slip into 2019. A temporary
overhead line may be required to facilitate construction of the
underground alignment. Western Power works will commence before
these contract works and should not be confused with the
commencement of the project works when it happens.
The project schedule to completion is shown below
Activity Date
Closing Date for submission of Proposals 12 Apr 2018
Recommend Preferred Proponent May 2018
Ministerial approval for appointment of Preferred Proponent and
Enter Negotiations with Preferred Proponent May 2018
Award D&C Contract June 2018
Complete Construction Dec 2019
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A number of questions and answers followed as shown below:
Q There has been criticism of this project with a lot of noise
and opposition driven by a small number of people.
Can this be better managed?
A The comment is noted with ongoing communications planned and a
commitment to deliver the project.
Q How with the project be staged traffic wise?
A
Main Roads has a view on the optimal construction staging
process but we remain open to ideas from contractors with a
supporting Traffic Management Plan required. Some night works will
result and traffic flows maintained to an appropriate level of
service.
Q When will the proposed upgrades to Joondalup Drive and Burns
Beach Road intersection happen?
A
This depends on the adopted construction program but these works
are a funded inclusion and will be delivered as part of this
project. Main Roads is also working with City of Joondalup (CoJ) to
secure a funding contribution to be made by them.
We haven’t put any timing restrictions on completion of these
works and we allow flexibility to get best value for money.
Q What impact will the change at St Stephens Crs and Joondalup
to become a left in/out have on traffic flows?
A
Vehicle counts show that the right turn movements into and out
of St Stephens Crs are low (
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A
Various options were considered for the intersection of
Joondalup Drive and Cheriton Drive and the option presented was
identified as the best solution. In relation to pedestrian access,
pedestrians will cross at road level with refuge points
provided.
The City of Wanneroo has asked that these modifications be
included and funded by the project.
Q Can this group influence the public art and urban design
inclusions?
A
Yes, with opportunities to do so during detailed design when a
contractor is appointed.
Main Roads will also involve Edith Cowan University (ECU) in a
similar way to the Mitchell Freeway Extension where they
significantly influenced the public art.
The CRG identified the following issues as being of greatest
interest and/or concern
Need for sound and effective communications to dispel the
prevailing rumours and misunderstandings:
The scale of the project and its visual impacts for residents of
Tapping and Carramar;
The provision of safe and easy access to Drovers Market Place
during and after construction;
Future landscaping provisions and inclusions; and
Opportunities for local government to play a role with early
tree planting in open spaces as a visual screen.
Further discussion identified the following response to the
areas of interest and/or concern raised:
Need for sound and effective communications to dispel the
prevailing rumours and misunderstandings:
o We will explain the project rationale and timing of proposed
works;
o Explain the priority for this project and how it compares with
other potential initiatives in the northern suburbs – Indian Ocean
Dve etc
o Explain the local road changes and benefits
ACTION: Chris Ri
The scale of the project and its visual impacts for residents of
Tapping and Carramar;
o Explain the extent of the bridge works with an intention to
get from the bridge back to existing road surface level as soon as
possible;
o Explain the conceptual design and the point at which it has
returned to existing road level;
o Provide early plantings and trees in existing parks now to
mitigate future visual impacts.
The provision of safe and easy access to Drovers Market Place
during and after construction;
o We have the best possible solution now and need to manage it
as best we can;
o Clarkson signalised intersection presents an opportunity for
improved Drovers Market Place access;
o Tweak and refine the concept during detailed design.
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Future landscaping provisions and inclusions;
o Main Roads expects something better than business as usual at
sensitive locations;
o Mitchell Freeway landscaping has produced fantastic regrowth
results and a similar approach would be applied here with a mix of
plantings and trees
Opportunities for local government to play a role with early
tree planting in open spaces as a visual screen.
o MR will work with local government to produce the best result
possible.
ACTION: Chris Ra
5 COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT
Chris Rickard provided a summary of the engagement process to
date explaining that activity commenced in July 2017 following
funding announcement and MRIA engagement:
Seven TRG meetings
Four CLG meetings
Two shopping centre displays
Five newsletters and site investigations notifications
Three local member briefings
Multiple stakeholder briefings – school; Drovers; developers;
PTA; WaterCorp
Website; information line
Planned future activity includes:
February – June
• Newsletter #4 – broadened distribution
• St Stephens Information – targeted distribution
• Ongoing stakeholder briefings as required
• Information sessions
June – onwards
• Contractor-led community engagement
• Transition of CLG to CRG
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CLG members encouraged Main Roads to provide better information
about the proposed bridge works with community members saying the
bridge will extend as far as Houghton Drive. Some form of visual
representation or 3D computer model would be beneficial to address
this.
ACTION: Chris Ri
Chris Rickard welcomed CLG member feedback and encouraged CLG
members to contact him with questions or comments on:
[email protected]
9323 6223
General project enquiries should be addressed through Main Roads
Customer Information Centre on 138 138.
CLG members suggested a number of possible venues for Community
Information Sessions to be held including:
Shopping Centres – Carramar, Drovers and others;
Carramar Community Centre;
Wanneroo Central;
Others to provide diverse opportunities for community input and
information.
CLG members were invited to suggest other possible venues for
Community Information Sessions to Chris Rickard at their
discretion.
A number of questions and answers followed as shown below:
Q When will a contractor be appointed for these works?
A We hope to have made a contractor on board by June 2018.
We will then reform this group as a Construction Reference
Group.
Q Will a public meeting be held to communicate this project as
requested by the City of Wanneroo?
A
We are not planning on holding a public meeting as they tend to
be dominated by one or two people and others don’t get a chance to
talk about what is important to them. Main Roads will provide a
range of opportunities for people including face to face “drop-in”
sessions where informal discussions can take place to address
location specific queries and/or concerns. Three drop-in sessions
are planned and we will advise the City of Wanneroo
accordingly.
ACTION: Chris Ri
Information is also available from the project website at:
www.mainroads.wa.gov.au; then
Building Roads; then
Project website (under current projects); then
North Metropolitan
mailto:[email protected]
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6 ISSUES AND OPPORTUNTIIES
CLG members identified the following issues and opportunities
for further consideration:
Name Comment
Steve Luplau I have nothing to add at this time.
Steve Bennett I have nothing to add at this time.
Barry McEloney Tapping residents are very interested in this
project. I am happy to meet and discuss tree plantings in public
open space to mitigate possible future visual impacts. Both the
City of Wanneroo and Main Roads are happy to do so at an
appropriate time during landscaping and revegetation design.
Steve Hamilton I am happy to see Cheriton Drive intersection
works potentially included and as part of these discussions.
Sarah Fry
Please consider the change in intersection performance since the
completion of the most recent freeway extension. Now that the
freeway extension has happened things have changed for the
community and people have forgotten how bad the traffic once
was.
Drovers access remains a concern along with business impacts and
loss of trade during construction. I am happy to liaise with them
and take info to them. MR noted - We need to come together to
improve access to Drovers at Clarkson Ave as a long-term solution
that offers improved access.
Lom Piggott
Cheriton Drive and in particular Clarkson Avenue are of interest
to PTA and supported by us for symmetrical bus service
delivery.
The left in/out from Drovers to Joondalup Drive needs to also
include safe pedestrian crossing opportunities to access eastbound
bus services.
Ian Hammond
Most comments made tonight regarding resident concerns have been
discussed previously with Chris Rickard and are recorded earlier in
this meeting. Ian will send a list of the resident concerns raised
to Chris Rickard.
ACTION: Ian H
Please send Drop In Session dates to me for communication to our
members asap.
ACTION: Chris Ri
Jean Castro I have nothing to add at this time.
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Name Comment
Mike Richards
There is a lot of false information being communicated by some
community members with silly things being said in hope that people
will agree.
The rationale behind the three Drop-in Sessions is understood as
a good response.
BGRA supports the project 100% and recognise it is being built
for the future as a fantastic initiative.
As a local resident Drovers has struggled for some time with
lots of competition from Lakeside and other local businesses.
People will travel there if they really want to be there.
Graeme Budge
Council report raised two items:
Mayor requesting Cheriton Ave / Joondalup Drive and Clarkson Ave
/ Wanneroo Road initiatives are included and fully funded as part
of these works; and
A public meeting was requested and should be addressed to the
Mayor explaining the alternative solution.
ACTION: Chris Ri
Max Wilson
Cheriton Ave / Joondalup Drive and Clarkson Ave / Wanneroo Road
funding is needed and important.
Houghton Drive may become left in/out if Cheriton roundabout
results.
Public meetings are not a good approach for communication but
one on one discussions offer good opportunities to understand
people’s interests and concerns.
7 NEXT MEETING
Topics of interest suggested by CLG members for future
discussion:
Feedback from the Drop-in Information sessions;
Construction Management Plan;
Staging of works;
Operational considerations;
The next meeting will be held on June /July 2018 with date to be
advised.
The workshop closed at 8:05 pm
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