NMC STANDARDIZATION SUB-TEAM FEBRUARY 2009 UNCONFIRMED MINUTES FEBRUARY 16, 2009 WESTIN PARK CENTRAL DALLAS, TEXAS USA These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency. MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2009 – CLOSED MEETING 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS 1.1 Call to Order The NMC Standardization Sub-Team Meeting was called to order at 8:00 a.m., February 16, 2009 User Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME * Mike Bath DCMA * Pascal Blondet Airbus (EADS) * Christian Buck SAFRAN * David Burger Rockwell Collins Michael Coleman The Boeing Company * Mark Crevier Pratt & Whitney-E. Hartford * Jim Diamond USAF * John Haddock BAE Systems - MAS * Henry Johansson Volvo Aero * Quan Lac Rolls-Royce plc * Arne Logan The Boeing Company * Frank Mariot Vought Aircraft * Robin McGuckin Bombardier * Heather Meyer Cessna Aircraft * Donald Missel Lockheed Martin * Jay Park Northrop Grumman * Michel Pierantoni Eurocopter * Mark Rechtstein er GE Aviation Laurie Strom Honeywell Aerospace * Richard Vinton Raytheon * LaVerne Waalkes Spirit AeroSystems * Kevin Ward Goodrich Chairperson 1
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NMC STANDARDIZATION SUB-TEAMFEBRUARY 2009
UNCONFIRMED MINUTESFEBRUARY 16, 2009
WESTIN PARK CENTRALDALLAS, TEXAS USA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2009 – CLOSED MEETING
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS
1.1 Call to Order
The NMC Standardization Sub-Team Meeting was called to order at 8:00 a.m., February 16, 2009
User Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME COMPANY NAME
* Mike Bath DCMA* Pascal Blondet Airbus (EADS)* Christian Buck SAFRAN* David Burger Rockwell Collins
Michael Coleman The Boeing Company* Mark Crevier Pratt & Whitney-E. Hartford* Jim Diamond USAF* John Haddock BAE Systems - MAS* Henry Johansson Volvo Aero* Quan Lac Rolls-Royce plc* Arne Logan The Boeing Company* Frank Mariot Vought Aircraft* Robin McGuckin Bombardier* Heather Meyer Cessna Aircraft* Donald Missel Lockheed Martin* Jay Park Northrop Grumman* Michel Pierantoni Eurocopter* Mark Rechtsteiner GE Aviation
Laurie Strom Honeywell Aerospace* Richard Vinton Raytheon* LaVerne Waalkes Spirit AeroSystems* Kevin Ward Goodrich Chairperson
L. David Williams Spirit AeroSystems
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Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME COMPANY NAME
* Bob Bodemuller Ball Aerospace* Mark Brown Braddock Metallurgical
Bob Custer AAA Plating & InspectionAlan Fertig United Space AllianceEd Jamieson Bodycote
* Dave Michaud Fountain PlatingVictor Schonberger Israel Aerospace Industries
* Mike Schleckman Voss Industries* Dave Thornhill General Dynamics* Jerry Wahlin AAA Plating & Inspection
PRI Staff Present
John BarrettJim BennettMike GrahamArshad HafeezEJ KegerreisJim Lewis
1.3 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes / RAIL Review
The minutes from October 6, 2008 were approved as written.
2.0 RAIL REVIEW
The following RAIL items were reviewed:
RAIL items #53, #55, #56 & #82 (NOP-003 Staff Delegation) – Arne Logan indicated he will not continue to lead the team. No-one indicated an interest in leading this team, as a result the action items are considered closed.
RAIL item #67 - Quality Manual Definitions. John Barrett provided update. Action closed.
3.0 VISION FOR Nadcap AUDIT CHECKLISTS (CHECKLIST CRITERIA)
Heather Meyer presented the sub-team’s status.
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ACTION ITEM: – Send presentation to the conventional machining group. They are in the process of creating a new checklist. EJ Kegerreis, DUE DATE: February 16, 2009
4.0 SUPPLIER ADVISORY
Arne Logan presented the sub-team’s status.
Discussion ensued regarding:
1. PRI implementing changes within eAuditNet due to the current transition to eAuditNet 2.0. 2. Communication / flow down to primes, suppliers, staff, etc. regarding verbiage change from
Supplier Advisory to Notification System.3. John Barrett indicated AQS’s position regarding the notification of systemic issues only for
Failed Audits.
ACTION ITEM: - Implementation of new procedure to be discussed further with Louise Stefanakis. Sub-Team, DUE DATE: February 18, 2009.
ACTION ITEM: - Communication / Flow down of procedure implementation to the supplier network to be discussed further. Sub-Team, DUE DATE: February 18, 2009.
ACTION ITEM: - AQS recommendations for notification of systemic issues to be discussed further. Sub-Team, DUE DATE: February 18, 2009.
Sub-Team will meet this week (Wednesday) to address action items identified.
5.0 INDUSTRY SPEC REVISIONS
Kevin Ward presented the sub-team’s status.
Communication strategy of flowing down guidelines need to include obtaining feedback from the Task Groups and then provide open communication to the Supplier network (presentation to SSC, incorporate on website, mass e-mail, etc).
1. Group Concerns: a. PO’s do not adequately stress revision level of effectivity date. b. Maintaining clarity of flow down from Prime to Tier 1, Tier 1 to Tier 2, etc.
2. Supplier Recommendation:a. The information indicated on the PO is binding.
3. General Comments:a. Auditor’s responsibility is to audit what they see and report accordinglyb. Supplier’s responsibility to answer and justify
ACTION ITEM: - Industry Spec Guidelines to be forwarded to the Task Groups for feedback. E J Kegerreis, DUE DATE: March 16, 2009.
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6.0 FAILURE UPDATE
Mike Graham presented the sub-team’s status.
The supplier failure rate has dropped since implementation of Revised NOP-011. Positive impact utilizing a logical, uniform approach by all Task Groups.
ACTION ITEM: – Presentation to be sent out to Task Group Chairs, PRI Staff and SSC (Dave Michaud). EJ Kegerreis, DUE DATE: February 16, 2009.
ACTION ITEM: – Each Task Group to review presentation during this week and recommend updating of appendix A of NOP-011. Commodity Task Groups. DUE DATE: April 30, 2009.
ACTION ITEM: - Provide update on Appendix A adjustment NOP-011 in Istanbul. EJ Kegerreis DUE DATE: July 13, 2009
ACTION ITEM: - Starting in 2010 review prior year data (Jan.-Dec. 2009) provided by PRI to Task Groups; update NOP-011 Appendix A; Report out in February Nadcap Meeting. EJ Kegerreis DUE DATE: February 2010. On-going update annually at the February Nadcap Meetings.
7.0 MERIT UPDATE
Jim Lewis presented the sub-team’s status.
ACTION ITEM: – Analyze data regarding companies losing merit from 24 months to 18 months, 24 months to 12 months & 18 months to 12 months. Jim Lewis. DUE DATE: March 16, 2009
ACTION ITEM: - Combined Failure & Merit presentation for April 2009 Board of Directors Meeting. Kevin Ward. DUE DATE: March 31, 2009
ACTION ITEM: – Presentation to be given to SSC. Kevin Ward. DUE DATE: February 17, 2009.
8.0 NEW BUSINESS
Next Steps - Kevin Ward suggested since many of the standardization activities are near closure, NMC Standardization is open to considering new activities to review.
ACTION ITEM: – E-mail NMC and Task Group Chairs to canvass ideas for new standardization activities. Idea’s to be brought to the July 2009 meeting (Istanbul). Kevin Ward. DUE DATE: March 16, 2009.
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9.0 ADJOURNMENT – FEBRUARY 16, 2009 – Meeting was adjourned at (10:53) a.m.
Minutes Prepared by: Jim Bennett - [email protected], EJ Kegerreis – [email protected], Dina Heasley – [email protected]
RAIL:
***** For PRI Staff use only: ******
Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)
YES* NO
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring revision:
Who is responsible: Due date:
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