U3 a genealogy aug 2012

U3A Genealogy

August 21st 2012

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Known Relatives Information

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Genes Reunited

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CENSUSES

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About 1840

PARISHRECORDS

GENES REUNITED

GENUKI , FHS, GOONS, ETC

GOOGLE, ROOTSWEB and OTHER LISTS

Ancestry.co.ukLDS 1881

Findmypast.com

FreeBMDAncestry

Findmypast.comUKBMD

Local BMDsites

LDS Microfiche

LDS Family Search

Welcome• Welcome• Blog update, have a look at:• http://rodneysgenealogyblog.blogspot.co.uk/

• Stuff from me

• Stuff from you!

Ancestry release Lancashire registers

• Lancashire Births & Baptisms 1813-1911• Lancashire Marriages and Banns 1754-1936• Lancashire Deaths and Burials 1813-1986• Lancashire Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials 1

538-1812• Lancashire Confirmations 1856-1922

Older & Wiser• You may be aware from this U3A website• http://www.u3a.org.uk/wiley-older-a-wiser.html• that there are a series of books under the Older & Wiser banner

including one entitled “Family History for the Older and Wiser – Susan Fifer”

• http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-047068612X.html gives you more detail.

• The RLSP of this book is £12.99 in paperback form.• For U3A members this book is available with a 40% discount for 10

or more copies of a book, a net price of £7.80 a copy.• Of course, this needs 10 of us to sign up for a copy.• Are 9 of you interested in buying a copy at £7.80? (5 responses)

Malcolm says...

• Malcolm Robinson• Information Librarian• Northamptonshire County Council Libraries and Information

Service• Northampton Central Library• Abington Street• Northampton• NN1 2BA• Tel: 01604 361447• Fax: 01604 462055

Malcolm says...• As part of the online resources we subscribe to at Northamptonshire Libraries there are a few that may be useful to local historians. • As well as taking Ancestry and Find My Past (access in library only) we have newspaper resources you can access from home by using your

library card. • We take the Historical Guardian and Observer (back to 1791) and The Times (back to 1785). These can be found on our elibrary

(www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/elibrary) under the heading of Newspapers and Magazines. • We also take the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (under the heading of Encyclopaedias and Dictionaries).• • Hope the information is of use.• • Best Wishes• • Malcolm• • Malcolm Robinson• Information Librarian• Northamptonshire County Council Libraries and Information Service• Northampton Central Library• Abington Street• Northampton• NN1 2BA• Tel: 01604 361447• Fax: 01604 462055• [email protected]• www.northamptonshire.gov.uk

Genes Reunited TreesLost Cousins says.....

• A lot of members have written to express their dissatisfaction with Genes Reunited's new online tree - a whole range of problems have been reported.

• Whilst I don't have my own tree at Genes Reunited - readers will be aware of my thoughts about online trees - I do have access to some of my cousins' trees. I have to say that in my tests I couldn't find any problems - but having recently replaced my computer I've got a much faster PC than most people, and this may explain the difference.

• I'm also told that it might make a difference which browser you use - these days I normally use Chrome. If you only have one browser on your computer it's about time you downloaded another one - they're free!

Genes Reunited Trees

• One thing that really surprised me as I worked through the correspondence was how many members rely on Genes Reunited's online tree, rather than having a family tree program on their own computer.

• I appreciate that it's superficially attractive to use a free online tree, but no online tree can be as fast, powerful, or easy to use as one that runs on your own computer. Time and time again I get emails complaining that Genes Reunited's tree doesn't do this, Ancestry's doesn't do that - and they're all things that the simple program I've been using for the past 10 years can handle without blinking..

Genes Reunited Trees

• If you really must upload your tree to the Internet, despite all my warnings, at least make sure that you have a copy (in Gedcom format) on your own computer. Ideally buy a family tree program that does what you want and make it the primary repository of your tree, so that the most up to date and detailed version of your tree is the one on your own hard drive (but make sure you keep copies elsewhere too, for example on a USB drive or CD ROM). Whatever family tree program you decide to buy, make sure you try it first - all the best programs offer free trial versions

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members

Genealogy Group Leader Rodney Fox is planning a Group exercise for the autumn. He is seeking a U3A member who has NOT carried out research of his/her family tree. He plans to have members of the Group do it for you!

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members

The plan is to have members of the Genealogy Group work together with the basic information available that you can provide; to research generations of ancestors using the tools we have available, establish names, places and dates to develop the family tree, and then put all the information into a database.

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A MembersOf course, there is so much more to a person’s life than just a name and set of dates. Group members will attempt to find out much more about your ancestors. What sort of life did they have? Were they good at school? What did they do for a living? Did they improve themselves? Did they move house? Were they active in social, political or religious circles? Did they fight in the war? Did they emigrate? Did they die young? Did they leave a will? What was the cause of their death?

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members• We then plan to pull the whole family story

together in a format that will become a family heirloom.

• That’s our plan. Whether we can achieve all of the above remains to be seen. We are, after all, only amateurs.

• So, will you be our volunteer? Contact Rodney at [email protected] to express an interest.

How will this help us?

• Increase our abilities to conduct genealogy research

• Increase our experience of using the range of research tools and databases

• Build up our skills at overcoming brick walls • Going beyond genealogy to family history• Learning to piece it all together

How will we do it?

• How do we select ?• One? All?• How will we gather the initial information

from the volunteers?

How will we do it?

• Someone to “own” the project”• Someone for censuses• Someone for BMDs• Someone for parish registers.• Someone to look for tombstones, etc and burial

records.• Someone for checking out existing family trees via

Genes Reunited, Ancestry, perhaps Rootsweb Mailing Lists.

How will we do it?

• Someone to gather and store information in their genealogy application, which should do all of the basics and produce an appropriate book at the end of the exercise.

• Someone to explore religious background for various ancestors.

• Someone to explore occupations for various ancestors.

How will we do it?

• Someone to see if there are any wills for any ancestors.

• Someone to check out emi/immigration for the various families

• Someone to gather appropriate photos/images for use in a final document

Workhouses

• Tony Sadler still working on the project of increasing our understanding of Workhouses, what they were, how they worked, etc

• Plans to be in a position for us to include in our September agenda.

Daphne’s dilemma• I have been looking at Elizabeth Vincent • Details are as follows • Born in Netherhampton in 1836• Found in 1841 and 1851 census (all OK so far)• I checked on another tree because I couldn't find her in 1861. • There was another tree in ancestory which she was on, this tree stated

that she married Henry Hibberd in 1860.• On this tree she subsequently had three children Henry 1861 Sarah

1863 and Ernest 1865.• • I checked and could find no evidence or any Marriage for her•

• .

Daphne’s dilemma

• I later found her in 1861 living with her brother George. • This makes me think there must have been two Elizabeth

Vincents. • My question is, if there is no record of any marriage on

record could there be records somwhere else?• Can I check to find if there were two Elizabeths.• This makes me also realise that it is no good just taking

someone else's tree to be correct everything needs to be double checked.

• Incidentally, I found Ernest Vincent living with his uncle in

1891.

Keith’s dilemma

• I have a cousin living in Australia who has recently been contacted by somebody over their who believes that they are related. Knowing of my interest in the subject my cousin mentioned it to me last week. All we know is that the family in Australia are Norton-Bakers and that the relationship is most likely on the Akers/Sadler side of my family (so might also be of interest to Tony!).

• My Dad's youngs brother's middle name was Brisbane and the family lore was that he got that in honour of friends living there, but I now wonder if it was actually family.

• I have never explored the possibility of overseas relatives and I'm not sure where to start