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    TUYT QUN LUNT B t MaV Th Ngc Dch

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    Ngunhttp://www.nguoivosu.comChuyn sang ebook -6-2009

    Ngi thc hin : Nam Thin [email protected] Audio Ti Website http://www.phatphaponline.org

    Mc Lci iu v Tuyt Qun LunTuyt Qun Lun

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    on 2on 3on 4on 5on 6on 7on 8on 9on 10on 11on 12

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    i iu v Tuyt Qun Lun(Su Tm T Net )

    Tha cc bn !Chng ta tht dim phc khi vng t hanh kh pha Ty Bc Trung Hoa

    gi li cho chng ta mt Kit tc ca Thin Tngm chnh cc Thin gi Trung Hoa t th k 19 tr v trcthm ch cn cha nghe ni n tn l quyn TUYT QUN LUN(m trn u sch c ghi l : B- DT MA TUYT QUN LUN)

    May-mn lm sao khi m cc d bn TUYT QUN LUN c pht hin ti :ng n-Hong (Touen Houang _ Tun-Huang)

    mailto:[email protected]://www.phatphaponline.org/kinh/Audio/Thien%20Tong/Luan/Tuyet%20Quan%20Luan%20-%20TT%20Thich%20Thong%20Phuong/mailto:[email protected]://www.phatphaponline.org/kinh/Audio/Thien%20Tong/Luan/Tuyet%20Quan%20Luan%20-%20TT%20Thich%20Thong%20Phuong/
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    Ri n nm 1900C th-gii Hc gi, nhng nh nghin cu Pht hc, nhng nh kho cbng hong sng st khi ng n-Hong c pht hin.

    i c mt kho tng tranh tng, ph iu, th tch cphi by ra n chong ngp.

    Trong hng ngn th tch c y c cc d bn TUYT QUN LUN

    Cc bn i !

    Ngi trong nh l nh nghin-cu ngi Php Paul Pelliotl ngi u tin "tng kim k" ci "kho DI LIU" qu bu ny trong 6 quyn

    sch ln:Les Grottes de Touen Houang. Paris 1914 - 1924.

    V tn ca 6 nguyn bn Hn vn TUYT QUN LUN l :

    1. QUN HNH PHP VI HU DUYN V DANH THNG S TPy l bn c D.T. Suzuki gii thiu trong THIU THT DT TH (1935)

    2. NHP L DUYN MN.

    3. TUYT QUN LUN

    4. T-MA HA THNG TUYT QUN LUN

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    5. TUYT QUN LUN (cng tn vi bn th 3)

    6. TAM TNG PHP S B- T-MA TUYT QUN LUN.

    Nm 1973 Vin Nghin cu Thin Hc (Institute for Zen Studies) cho in phng nhv chuyn ng t Nht vn sang Anh ng.(mi quyn gi 100 USD).

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    Thc khng ng ngh-thut iu khc v hi ha thi by gi(trc ngy ng n-Hong khp li) vt ln n tm cao y !

    i s D.T. Suzuki cng a s cc nh hc gi u TIN rngy thc s l tc-phm ca T B- t-Ma.

    Ch c l loi mt vi -kin cho l do Ngi Php Dung (Ngu-u) vit

    thi th v/h cng xin gii thiu i nt v Ngi Php Dung vy :Trch dn:Php Dung

    ; C: frng; J: hy; 594-657;

    Thin s Trung Quc, ngi sng lp thin phi Ngu u. S l mn ca T t oTn.Thu nh S theo hc Nho gio v nm 19 tui thng kinh s. V khng hi lng vinhng g t c, S chuyn qua tham hc Pht php v n ni Ngu u trong

    hang gn cha U Th, ngy m tu tp thin nh. o hnh ca S cm ha c cth rng nn chng em hoa qu n cng dng. T o Tn nhn lc qua y xem khtng bit trn ni c bc d nhn, ch thn ln ni tm S. S ngi thin khng nai.T thy th bn hi: " y lm g?"S p: "Qun tm."T hi: "Ai qun, tm l vt g?"S nghe khng p c bn ng dy lm l, hi v bit c T l Thin s o Tn.

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    S ch T vo hang pha sau tm ngh. Thy th d lng xng, T ra v s,S hi: "Ngi vn cn ci sao?"T hi li: "Ci l ci g?"S khng p c. Mt lt sau, T vit ln ch ng ca S ch Pht (). S trngthy git mnh,

    T hi: "Vn cn ci sao?"S nghe bn lm l cu xin ch dy.T bn dy: "Phm trm ngn php mn ng v mt GC. Diu c nh h sa thy ni ngun tm. Tt c mn gii, nh, hu, thn thng bin ha, c thy u tmngi... Khng c tam gii c th ra, khng c B- c th cu... Ch tm ngi t ti,ch khi tham sn, ch m lng lo bun, rng rang khng ngi, mc tnh tung honh,chng lm vic thin, chng lm vic c, i ng ngi nm, mt thy gp duyn thy ul diu dng ca Pht. V vui v khng lo bun nn gi l Pht."S hi: "Tm y , ci g l Pht? Ci g l tm?"T p: "Chng phi tm th khng hi Pht, hi Pht th chnh l tm."S hi: " khng khi qun hnh, khi gp cnh khi tm lm sao i tr?"

    T p: "Cnh duyn khng tt xu, tt xu khi ni tm, nu tm chng theo danh, vngtnh t u khi ? Vng tnh chng khi, chn tm mc tnh bit khp. Ngi ch tytm t ti, chng cu i tr, tc gi l Php thn thng tr, khng i thay."S nhn y liu ng.S tr tr ti Ngu u sn, hc chng n rt ng. Sau c v quan thnh S n chaKin S hong ha. S nhn li cu thnh n cha Kin S nhng ch mt nm sau(657), ngy 23 thng ging, S vin tch ti y, th 64 tui, 41 tui h.

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    Trch dn:

    "Thu nh S theo hc Nho gio v nm 19 tui thng kinh s".

    iu ny cho chng ta thm tin rng TUYT QUN LUN l do Ngi Php-Dungvitv cch hnh vn, ging vn v kh cht u mang bng dng mt ngi Trung Hoatinh thng Tam gioch khng mang THN KH SM ST V NGN ca T t-Ma.

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    l tng ring ca v/h (y cm tnh, thiu khoa hc)ch v ngh rng tc phm ny l do Ngi Php Dung vitnn v/h mnh dn DCH U tc phm tuyt vi ny !

    Du trng du sai ch mong GI CHO CC BN SUY T m thi.

    Xin ng ai cho l quan trng li ni ca mt ngi c n ba bn ci khngkhng bng cp, khng hc lc, khng tu hnh, khng chng c

    "li qu gp nht dng-dimua vui cng c mt vi trng canh"(Nguyn-Du)Ht Phn Su Tm ( Nam Thin thc hin)

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    Tuyt Qun Lun

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    o ln thm su, u diu m tch nhin qung i, chng th ly Tm m hiu, chng thly li m gii. Nay th ly hai ngi, cng ni iu chn thc. S ch tn Nhp L, t gi l Duyn Mn.

    1.1

    By gi, Nhp L tin sinh tch lng chng ni, Duyn Mn bng ng dy tha viNhp L tin sinh: "Ci g gi l Tm, th no l An Tm?"p: "Ngi chng cn cho rng phi c ci Tm, cng chng c cho c an. Nh thgi l An ."

    1.2Hi: "Nu nh chng c Tm, lm sao hc o?"p: "o chng th ly Tm ngh bn c, th h cn Tm !"

    1.3Hi: "Nu chng ly Tm ngh bn, th ly g suy nim?"

    p: "C Nim t c Tm, c Tm t si o. V Nim tc V Tm, V Tm tc chno vy".

    1.4Hi: "Tt c chng sinh thc u c Tm chng?"p: "Nu chng sinh thc c Tm, t sinh in o. Ch v ni V Tm m ly lmTm nn sinh ra vng tng".

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    1.5Hi: "V Tm c nhng g?"p: "V Tm tc l V Vt (khng c g c), V Vt tc l Thin chn (y chnthc mt cch t nhin), Thin chn tc i o".

    1.6Hi: "Vng Tng ca chng sinh dit c chng?"p: "Nh k thy Vng Tng, li thy (c th) dit c vng tng th chng thxa la c vng tng"

    1.7Hi: "K chng cn (cn) dit tr (vng tng) th hp o l chng?"p: "Nu ni HP vi BT HP l cng chng xa ri c Vng Tng".

    1.8Hi: "By gi th lm g?"

    p: "Chng c by gi".

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    2.1Duyn Mn hi: "Ni v bc Thnh nhn, v b (on) Php g, v c (c) Php g,m gi l Thnh?"

    Nhp L p: "Mt php chng b, mt php chng c, nn gi l Thnh vy."[Thnh nhn (arya): gic gi: k gic ng]

    2.2Hi: "Nu chng b chng c, cng phm phu th c khc g nhau?"

    p: "Chng th ging nhau c! Ti sao? Tt c phm phu v m lm nn cn c iuphi on b, v m lm nn cn c iu s c."

    2.3

    Hi: "Nay ni phm phu c iu s c, thnh nhn chng c g s c. Nh vy, Cv BT C c g khc bit?"

    p: "Phm phu c iu s c tc l c m lm. Thnh nhn chng c g s c tc lkhng m lm. Cho nn c m lm mi lun bn NG (ging) v BT NG (khc).Cn, khng m lm th (khng cn phn bit) v d (khng khc) vi v-bt-d (khng cg khng khc) g na".

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    2.4Hi: "Nu chng khc nhau th ci tn Thnh nhn l g?"

    p: "Phm phu vi Thnh nhn, c hai ch l ci tn. Tn vn khng hai, chng c gkhc bit. Ging nh ni lng ra, sng th (nhng iu khng c tht) y thi".

    2.5Hi: "Nh vy Thnh nhn cng nh lng ra, sng th (nhng g khng tht); tt ccui cng dn n ci Khng, th ly g dy ngi hc o?"

    p: "Ta ni lng ra Khng, ch chng ni ra cng khng c. Ngi ly th d lkh ."

    2.6Hi: "Khng c lng l v vi g? Ra v vi g?"

    p: "Ra v vi o, lng v vi Ng. V vy, Thnh nhn V Ng nn c o. Tri li,phm phu chp c Ng c Danh, ging nh c cho rng c lng ra, sng th vy!"

    2.7Hi: "Nu nh vy, o ng vi ci C , Ng ng vi ci Khng . Vi ci C-Khng-Khng-C , s sinh ra kin chp h v (chng c chng khng) chng?

    p: "o chng l ci C , Ng cng khng phi l ci Khng . L ti lm sao? VRa chng phi l trc Khng m nay C, nn chng th ni l C. Lng ra chng phiv trc C nay Khng, nn khng th ni l Khng. o cng vi Ng c th hiu gingnh cch th d !"[Kinh i Nit Bn (Nirvana Sutra) c li Pht dy: (i Tng Kinh quyn 12 tp 374trang 422 C): "Nhng g trc c m nay khng c; nhng g trc khng c m nay cth u chng (tht) c".]

    2.8Hi: "V ngi cu o, ch ring mt ngi c o chng? Hoc tt c u c? Hocmi k mi c? Hoc tt c chung li m c? Hoc bn lai sn c hay do tu tp ri sthnh?"

    p: "Tt c nh ngi ni u khng phi. Ti lm sao?Nu ch ring mt ngi c thi, o t khng cng khp.Nu tt c chng nhn u c c (ch c mt trng thi trong t nhin, trng thi co), o t qu ngho nn.Nu mi ngi mi c (c s khc bit ln nhau, khng l Nht th), o t c nhiucon ng (trong khi o ch c Mt).Nu cng chung li m c, cc phng tin u thnh v dng.Nu nh bn lai sn c, (bch gii) vn hnh ( (trm gii), vn c hnh) ch u l hthit thi sao?Nu tu m sau thnh c, th cng ch l gi to khng tht vy!".

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    2.9Hi: "Cui cng, cn ni g?"

    p: "Xa mi tnh ton so snh, ct t mi tham dc".

    [Kinh Lng Gi : "La tt c cn lng (tnh ton, so snh) th khng ngn thuyt, khngngn thuyt th v sanh. V sanh th khng dit, khng dit th tch dit. Tch dit th ttnh Nit Bn". Trang 319]

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    3.1Duyn Mn hi: "Phm phu c thn, nn nhn nghe cm bit, thnh nhn cng c thn,nn cng nhn nghe cm bit. C ai khc bit trong?"

    Nhp L p: "Phm phu mt thy, tai nghe, thn cm, bit. Thnh nhn khng nhvy, thnh nhn thy ci thy khng phi ca mt (kin phi-nhn-kin), nghe ci nghekhng phi ca tai (vn phi-nh-vn), cm ci cm khng phi ca thn (cm phi-thn-cm) cho n bit ci bit khng phi ca (tri phi--tri). L ti sao? V vt quanhng tnh ton o lng ri vy".

    3.2Hi: "Ti sao kinh ni Thnh Nhn v kin, vn, gic, tri (khng c ci thy, nghe, cm,bit ca phm phu)?"p: "Thnh nhn khng c ci kin, vn, gic, tri ca phm phu, khng c ngha l

    khng c th gii s th (cnh gii t nhin v v tr) ca thnh nhn. ( l v) khnggi ci chp Hu V, xa la tnh phn chia so snh vy."

    3.3Hi: "Phm phu tht c ci gi l th gii s th ca phm trn chng?"p: "Thc khng c khi cn m, v bn lai tnh lng tch dit, tuy nhin v m m tnhton, so snh thnh ra sai lnh vy".

    3.4Hi: "Con khng hiu, ci gi l: s thy ca thnh nhn khng phi l ci thy ca mt,s hiu ca thnh nhn khng phi l ci hiu ca thc?"

    p: "Php th kh thy, c th th d th ny hiu: nh ly nh sng thm su chiusoi mt vt. Ging nh l (c vt) chiu ri v (c vt) b chiu. Khng th c con mtm t c ci kh nng thy c. n nh ci l m Dng trong mun vt, ging nh(mt bn l) ci bit (v mt bn l) ci b bit. (Thnh ra cng) khng c mt ci thcm t n c c ci kh nng hiu c".

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    4.1Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Cui cng o thuc ai?"

    p: "Cu cnh khng thuc v g c, ging nh chn khng chng l thuc vo u.o m cn l thuc buc rng tc l c cn c khai, c ch c khch".

    4.2Hi: "Gc ca o l g? Ci Dng ca php l g?"p: "H khng l gc ca o, tt c MI hin tng u l ci dng ca o Php".

    4.3Hi: "Trong ai l k to by?"p: "Khng ai to by, Php gii tnh t nhin".

    4.4Hi: "Chng phi chnh l do Nghip lc ca chng sinh m lm ra ?"p: " mang nghip, nn b nghip rng buc, t m ra chng phi khc. Lm saornh rang m khi bin, gom ni, nh tri dng t c".

    4.5Hi: "Thng nghe B Tt do m ha thn, khng phi l do Lc thn thng sao?"p: "Phm phu c nghip chng u, thnh nhn chng c nghip chng. Do , chn c khc nhng cha hn l ci o t nhin. Cho nn Kinh (Lng Gi) ni: c bitbao thn xc do ha sinh, tht ra chng g khc hn l do tm to by".

    4.6Hi: "Nu ni Khng l gc ca o, Khng l Pht chng?"p: "Nh th!"

    4.7Hi: "Nu Khng l Pht, Thnh nhn sao chng chuyn bo chng sinh nim Khng, mli dy chng sinh Nim Pht?"p: "V chng sinh ngu si, nn mi ch dy Nim Pht. Cn vi ngi c o tm, thdy Qun thc tng ci thn ny, cng nh Qun Pht vy. Ni Thc Tng tc l niKhng, l ni V Tng vy".

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    5.1Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Thng nghe ngoi o cng c Ng thng, cc bc B ttcng c nh th. C hai u c (thn thng) th c g khc bit?"

    Nhp L tr li: "Khng ging. L ti sao? Ngoi o cho rng h c t c, B tt th

    khng nh vy, bi v t c l V Ng ri vy".5.2Hi: "Lc bt u, phm mi hc o, l nhp th cha trn, chn nh mi thm mtcht, hiu s si v diu l. So vi nhng k ngoi o c c ng thng, th sao mhn c?"p: "Trc hay gi ly phn nhp l d rt nh b . C li g v vic s dng ci Ngthng kia?"

    5.3Hi: "Nu c Ng thng th i s tn knh, i s coi trng. Trc: bit vic cha n,

    Sau: bit vic qua. T phng nga ly nhng h lm sai quy, h chng l hnkhng?"p: "Chng phi l ti sao? Tt c ngi i, tm a hng v hnh tng, tham bucvo ca ci c nghip. ( l) theo h ngy m lm lon chn chnh. Nhng k d cc ci thn thng ca Thng , ci ti bin thuyt ca Hnh Tinh, m khng thu hiuc ci L ca Thc tng th cng (ging nh Thng v Hnh Tinh) u chng thotcht bi nn t sp vy".

    [Thng : nhn vt trong Ch Php V Hnh Kinh, i Tng Kinh, quyn 15; HnhTinh : nhn vt trong Nit Bn Kinh, i Tng Kinh, quyn 12]

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    6.1Duyn Mn hi: "o ch c trong linh hnh chng? Hay o cng trong c cy cna?"

    Nhp L ni: "o chng thuc v ci g c gii hn.".

    6.2Hi: "o bao la nh vy, th ti sao git ngi c ti, cn git tho mc v ti?"p: "Khi ni c ti v khng c ti, th u l ni theo tng s vic ring bit, khngphi l chnh o. l bi v th nhn khng t c ci L ca o, m lm m chorng c ci thn ng, st tc l c tm (c ), tm kt thnh nghip, nn ni l c ti.Tho mc v tnh, trc sau vn hp vi ao. L V Ng, nn chng k n ngihi chng. V vy, nn ni l chng lun bn v c ti hay khng c ti. Cho nn V Ngl hp vi o, coi thn hnh nh cy c, d c b ct cht th cng nh l cy rng (b

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    cht). V vy nn Ngi Vn Th S Li dng kim chm c C m, ng Qut cmdao m c Thch Ca. C hai (trng hp) u l thun hp vi o. C hai (Vn Thv ng Qut) u chng qu v bt sinh, liu tri c tnh h khng huyn ha (ca mihin tng). V vy, nn ni l khng lun bn v c ti hay khng c ti vy".

    [Trong i Bo Tch Kinh (Ratnakutah) c ni i khi nghe Pht thuyt php, c nmtrm v Nhp Lu hiu c kip trc ca mnh phm nhng i ti, cho nn mangvng tm l mnh s khng bao gi gic ng c. B tt Vn Th hiu c Phtmun dy cho h mt bi hc lm sng t nhng vng tng , nn ngi ng lncm kim chm c Pht. Pht bn cn li m dy, i ni: Bn lai v Ng, ch v chptrc m c thn ng, ng kin, c ti, phi ti, v.v... Nu ngi mun hi Pht th ch cntrong tm hin ln , l tn hi n Pht,... cn t l v tm th siu vit thinc,... (nh trng hp ngi Vn Th lc ny)]

    [ng Qut Ma La (Angulimala), tn mt nhn vt trong Tp A Hm Kinh (SamyuttaNikaya). ng Qut l g B La Mn thnh X V. Ban u, tin theo t thuyt ni l

    h git c 1000 ngi ri, cht ngn tay x lm xu i u th c sanh ln cnhThin ng. Khi git c 999 ngi ri, cn thiu mt, ng Qut nh git m v rttheo m git. c Pht bn em lng thng xt nn hin ra bn ng, ngQut git. ng Qut lin rt theo Pht, Pht ch bc m hn khng nm bt c.i cho n lc hn kit sc, c Pht mi dng li cm ha. Sau ng Qut quy y,xut gia v cng c qu A La Hn. Hai in tch trn y cng l ngha ca cu thoiu ni ting ca Thin gii. Phng Pht st Pht, phng T st T, ch Tr Hu BtNh tuyt i, Bnh ng Tr, V Phn Bit Tr,... khng xem c Pht l cu cnh.]

    6.3Hi: "Nu tho mc t lu hp o, th sao trong kinh khng thy ghi r c cy thnhPht m ch ghi ngi ta (thnh Pht)?"p: "Khng phi ch ghi c ngi, cn c ghi c tho mc na. Kinh (Hoa Nghim) ni:ch trong mt ht bi cng c tt c th gii vn tng. Kinh (Duy Ma Ct) li cng ni:Tt c th gii vn tng u nh vy, tt c chng sinh cng cng nh th. l khnghai, l v sai bit vy".

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    7.1Duyn Mn hi: "Nu theo yu l Chn Khng, th ly g chng ng?"

    Nhp L ni: "Tm trong tt c mi hnh tng (Sc) , chng ng bng t li ca mnh".[Sc (Rpa): Sc php v Tm php, tt c hnh tng ca t th v cnh gii ngoi ti]

    7.2Hi: "Tm trong tt c mi hnh tng l g? Chng ng bng li ca mnh l g? Th no

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    l sc trung cu? Th no l Ng trung chng?"p: "Chn Khng v Hnh Tng vn l mt, Ng ngn v Tu chng cng chng hai".

    7.3Hi: "Nu tt c Php gii vn vt l Khng, th sao Thnh nhn th thng sut, Phm

    phu th ngng tr?"p: "M ng nn ngng tr, Chn tnh nn thng sut".

    7.4Hi: "Nu (tt c php gii) l khng, th th no l v minh? Nu v minh ri thlm sao li thnh khng cho c?"p: "Phm ni n m th bt gic cht khi, bt gic li ng. Nhng k thc trongtnh Khng th chng c mt ci g gi l m vng c". Khi m vng th c khi c ng,c ci gi l v minh c iu gi l Pht thnh... cn trong Khng Tnh (cnh gii cangi gic ng, trng thi thanh tnh, Nit Bn,...) th tt c php gii u ph by thctnh, th chng cn g gi l h gi, h vng na.

    [So on ny vi Tm Kinh Bt Nh: "Tng Khng ca cc php th chng sanh chngdit, chng tnh, chng nh,... trong tnh Khng ny th chng c ci g gi l hnh tng,cm th, t tng,...">

    7.5Hi: "Nu (php gii) thc l Khng, th tt c chng sinh u khng cn tu o. L tisao? v t nhin tnh (ca chng sinh l Khng ri) l th".p: "Tt c chng sinh, nu thc thng gii ci L tnh Khng ri th qu l khngcn tu o g c. Nhng ch v chn Khng m chng (gic ng c) Khng nnmi sinh ra nghi hoc vy".

    7.6Hi: "Nu nh th, t la m hoc l o. Th ti sao li cn ni tt c u khng phi lo?"p: "Khng phi vy, khng phi m hoc l o, cng khng phi la m hoc l o.L ti sao? Nh ngi say th khng tnh, tnh th khng say. Cho nn, khng phi la saym c tnh, hay khng say (ng ng say) tc l tnh".

    7.7Hi: "Nh khi ngi ta tnh ri th say u?"p: "Nh lt ngc li bn tay. Trong khi tay cn ang lt nh vy, khng cn hi tay u".

    [M tnh ch l hai mt ca mt thc th, nh b tri b mt ca bn tay. Ch v m nnkhng nhn ra c chn tm vn trong sng ngay trong mnh.]

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    8.1Duyn Mn hi: "Nu nh khng t c chn l , c th thuyt php gio ha chngsinh c chng?"

    Nhp L ni: "Khng c. L ti sao? Mt mnh cn cha t, h tr c mt ngi ?"8.2Hi: "(Tuy cha t l nhng) c tn tr lc, ty theo hon cnh m ha , cng khngc sao?"p: "Nu t o L, th gi l Tn Lc. Cn cha t c L o, th gi l VMinh Lc (sc mnh ca u m). L ti sao? v (ci sc mnh u m ) ch gip cho phinno tng trng m thi".

    8.3Hi: "Tuy khng c kh nng mang chn l ha cho ngi, th cng dy chng sinh

    lm Thp thin, Ng gii, an nh nhn thin. H khng c li hay sao?"p: "Chng nhng i vi chn l tuyt i l v ch, m cn khin tn hi gp i. Lti sao? V t hm mnh ri li cn hm ngi. T hm ngha l t cn tr mnh vio. Hm ngi, ngha l cng khng gip ngi thot khi lun hi lc o vy."

    [Thp thin: khng git ngi, khng trm cp, khng dm dc, khng di tr, khnghai li, khng c khu, khng hoang ngn, khng tham dc, khng sn hn, khng tkin.Ng gii: khng git ngi, khng trm cp, khng di tr, khng dm lon, khngnghin ngp.]

    8.4Hi: "Pht khng thuyt rng c ng tha khc nhau hay sao?"p: "Pht chng dng tm khi ni v cc php mn khc bit. Ch v chng sinh, t tmhin ln h vng. Cho nn Kinh (Lng Gi) ni: Nu nh tm ngi trng lng chngcn g, th chng cn xe (tha) ln ngi ci xe (tha gi), khng cn lp ra tha nona cho nn Nh Lai gi l Nht tha vy."

    [Kinh Lng Gi: "t Ch Thin tha, Phm tha, Thanh Vn tha, Duyn Gic tha nPht tha m cn tm phn bit th cha phi l ti diu. Nu tm kia dit ht th chngcn tha (xe) v tha gi (ngi ci xe) na, chng lp tha, nn Nh Lai ni l Nhttha"]

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    9.1Duyn Mn hi: "Ti sao ngi hc o chn chnh chng c ngi bit n, chngc ngi nhn ra?"

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    Nhp L p: "K bn cng chng nhn ra c ca bu, ngi gi tr khng th hiuc bc chn nhn."

    9.2

    Hi: "Th gian c ngi ngu ti, chng theo chnh l, bn ngoi th uy nghi, chuyn trnga v v ca ci, li c nhiu ngi c nam ln n gn gi?"p: "Nh dm n th mi gi bn nam nhn, tht thi th rui ko li. V th nn ni tnv vic i i vy".

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    [bt u on ny, dnh cho bc B tt cc tng mc cao thc chng V Ng rt rov sau cng, thc ti siu vit Ti Hu v phn bit]

    10.1Duyn Mn hi: "Th no gi l "B tt hnh phi o (tri o)" t thnh Phto?"

    Nhp L p: "V phn bit thin c!".

    [Kinh Duy Ma Ct: "Ngi Vn Th hi ng Duy Ma Ct rng:-Lm th no B tt thng t Pht o?-B tt thc hnh Phi o (tri o) l thng t Pht o.-Th no l B tt thc hnh Phi o?

    -Nu B tt gy nm i ti m khng bun gin, trong a ngc m khng c ti cu, trong loi sc sanh m khng c v minh kiu mn,... hin vo hng chng ma m vntheo tr tu Pht, hin lm tt c phin no m lng thng thanh tnh,...".]

    10.2Hi: "Th no l V Phn Bit (thin c)?"p: "Bt c trong trng hp no cng khng dy ng tm".

    10.3Hi: "Cng khng c c Ch th hnh ng na chng?"p: "Chng phi l c-hay-khng-c ch th".

    10.4Hi: "(Thc hnh v phn bit thin c) l khng c tri gic chng?"p: "C tri gic nhng V Ng".

    10.5Hi: "V Ng (khng c ch th) th lm sao c tri gic?"p: "Tri gic t v tnh".

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    10.6Hi: "C ni n Ng l sinh ra iu cn tr chng?"p: "Nu ch bit n ci tn th c g l tr ngi. Ch s rng trong tm sinh ra vic mthi".

    10.7Hi: "(Tm) sinh s th c tr ngi chng?"p: "Khng tr ngi th v s. v s, th cn hi tr ngi ci g?"

    10.8Hi: "Nh trit gim ht mi s khng cn ci g (trong tm), th Hnh Phi o l lmsao?"p: "Nu thc s v s, th ngi cn c khi tm cho s sinh ra lm g?"

    10.9

    Hi: "C nhn duyn no th st sinh c?"p: "La ng t ni, gi mnh b cy, ni sp th, nc trn cn trng. Tm gingc nh vy, th c git ngi cng kh hp. Cn nu tm cn do d, phn bit sngcht git hi, trong cn tm cha tn dit, th (git) mt con kin cng l ct vo mnhngi ri vy".

    10.10Hi: "Trong nhn duyn no th trm cp c?"p: "Ong hi hoa bn h, chim s ngm ht ngoi sn, b gm u bn m, nga nhaila ngoi ng. Tt c u chng bit g n vt g, ca ai. Hp c nh vy th c vcc ni non i cng ng, cn nu khng c nh th, th (ly trm) mt ngn l nh nhu kim cng ct khin ngi lm n l vy".

    10.11Hi: "Trong nhn duyn no th hnh dm c?"p: "Tri ph ly t, Dng hp vi m, nc dt t l r, sui tun theo dng. Tmm ng nh vy, th chng ch no m hnh ng gp tr ngi. Cn nu cn sinh tnhphn bit (vui thch, xc ng,...) th (hnh lc) vi v nh cng khin tm ngi hoenbn vy".

    10.12Hi: "Cn c nhn duyn no th vng ng c?"p: "C ni m nh khng c ngi ni, c li m chng c tm , thanh nh tingchung (v g m ku, ch chng v chung mun ln ting), ging nh m gi (gi thiv c vt cn m thnh m ch chng v gi c ging ring ca gi). Tm m ng cnh vy th li ni n Pht cng khng cn. Cn khng c nh vy th cho n lixng tng c Pht, cng ch l nhng li vng ng m thi".

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    11.1Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Nu nh khng cn Thn Kin (ci Ng v thn xc), th (ai)

    i ng ngi nm?"

    p: "C i, ng, ngi, nm, lm g phi chp trc l c thn xc v ci Ng".

    [Cc Thin s thng lp li cu ny. Xut x c th thy trong kinh Bch Thin TngBt Nh (Satasa Hasrika Rajnaparamita): "B tt an tr trong thn th (vn c) cm th,suy ngh, v (i i) vi vn php, nhng khng khi nim phn bit i i vi thnth, cm th, tm v vn php,... Khi B tt i, B tt bit mnh i, khi ng, B tt bitmnh ng, khi ngi bit mnh ngi, khi nm bit mnh nm, khi bun, bit mnh bun,khi tc gin bit mnh tc gin, khi vng tm bit mnh vng tm, khi m lm bit mnhm lm,... m khng c chp trc v thng ti l Khng v V Ng. Chng sinh th

    khng bit mnh ti l Khng v khng thy ci L V Ng ca thn th, cm th, tm, v vn php,...]

    11.2Hi: "Nu khng cn thn kin, th cn c th suy t v ngha l c sao?"p: "Nu cn Tm chp trc, th khng suy ngh, cng vn l C. Nu hiu c lV Tm, th d c suy t n ci g chng na cng vn l Khng. L ti lm sao? ging nh Thin s khi tnh ta m cn khi tm l, nh gi mnh tuy lon ng m VTm".

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    12.1Duyn Mn hi: "Nu c k mi hc o, bng gp nhn duyn c ngi mun hi, phii tr th no cho hp o?"

    p: "Nhng iu chng cn phi i tr. L ti sao? Nu trnh c th trnh, khng

    trnh c th nhn; Nhn nhn c th nhn nhn, khng nhn nhn c th c khc".

    12.2Hi: "Nh m khc, th cng vi ngi c kin chp v thn ng c g khc bit?"p: "Nh di g chung, ting vang t nhin pht ra. H tt phi c ci Ng no ht.Ngi nh sp cht m cn km tm, cn rng chu ng, th cng ch i n vic duy trci ng to tng kia m thi".

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    12.3Hi: "Ngi m khc lc thm thit, t trong c khi ng tm tnh. H ng vi tingchung vang ?"p: "Ni ng hay bt ng, u l do ngi a s v c vng tng, ngh suy, so snhnn mi c cu hi . Cn nu khng cn tm phn bit, th o th vn t nhin".

    12.4Hi: "Thnh nhn binh kh khng th hi c, kh khng lm cong mm c, vt chtchng khin hng th, tm chng dy ng ni. Nh th l th no?"p: "Nu thu hiu rng tt c mi php u v ng (khng c tht) th c ting haykhng c ting, c ng hay bt ng, u hp vi l o, chng g cn tr c".

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    13.1Duyn Mn hi: "Con thy c ngi hc o, chng chu chuyn cn tinh tin, gi giilut; khng cn mn gia sc uy nghi; chng ha chng sinh, c t t pht ph, lngha g?"

    p: "Mun mt ht ci tm phn bit, mun dt tt c mi quan nim hu thng (chhu kin). Th (b ngoi) nh l c v pht ph nhn lng nh vy, nhng tht ra bntrong th chuyn cn khng gin on vy".

    [Ch Hu Kin: Cc quan nim v hu (thng): c thn ng, c hnh tng mu sc,...nh Thn kin, Vng kin, Hu kin. Khi ch Kin dng mt mnh n c ngha l vng

    kin, hu kin,...]

    13.2Hi: "Nh v hnh gi , li sinh ra ci tiu nhi chi kin. Th h li ni c l c thdt b c (tt c mi vng) kin hay sao?"p: "Hy tr b vng kin ca ngi, lo g ngi khc sinh (hay khng sinh). Nh cva ra khi vc su, h lo ngi bt c c ght n hay khng".

    13.3Hi: "Nu nh th, th ch li mnh hi ngi, h gi c l bc i s sao?"p: "Nu ngi khng sinh vng kin, th tt nhin n chng sinh. Nay ngi lo suy v

    vic n sinh, th chnh l ngi t sinh, ch khng ai vo y."

    13.4Hi: "Trong, thng t gio l i tha. Ngoi, hin uy nghi Tiu tha. L lm tn hiPhp no?"p: "Nay ngi li mun bt ng gi chi tr con nt chng! C ch g i vi l".

    [Lm hi Php no?: cch ni bng by ngc ngo ca Thin gia, c ngha: "l theo

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    Php mn no?" ]

    13.5Hi: "Nh bc i s tr b c ht nhng vng tng , th ai c th nhn ra? ai cth hiu c?"

    p: "Ngi chng ng th hiu c, ngi hnh tr th nhn ra c".13.6Hi: "Nh v i s , c th ha chng sinh chng?"p: "C nht nguyt no m khng chiu? C n la no m khng sng?"

    13.7Hi: "Dng phng tin no?"p: "Chnh trc khng phng tin".

    13.8

    Hi: "Nu khng c phng tin, th lm sao li ch cho chng sinh?"p: "Vt n nn c tn, vic qua nn p ng. Khng c tm sp by, d on tnhton".

    13.9Hi: "Con nghe ni Nh Lai by ngy t duy mi khi pht ra phng tin ( ha chng sinh). Sao by gi li ni l chng c tm sp by, tnh ton?"p: "Cnh gii ch Pht khng th suy t, phn tch tm hiu hay qun tng m bitc."

    13.10Hi: "Nh vy, Pht cng ni di chng?"p: "Chn tht khng h vng".

    13.11Hi: "Ti sao kinh ni t duy (Nh Lai by ngy t duy mi khi pht ra phng tincu ). Nay ni khng t duy?"p: "Ch l phng tin ha m thi".

    13.12Hi: "Phng tin ca ch Pht v theo l no m sinh?"p: "Ch Pht chng sinh, ch v theo tm (chng sinh) m sinh. Ty duyn m ha vn vt nhng bn lai Php Pht khng c tn".

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    14.1Duyn Mn hi: "Con khng bit, th no gi l Pht? Th no gi l o? Th no gi

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    l bin ha? Th no gi l thng tr?"

    Nhp L p: "Gic ng c v vt th gi l Pht. Thng sut c tt c th gi lo. Php gii xut sinh l Bin ha. Cu cnh tch dit gi l Thng tr".

    14.2Hi: "Ti sao gi tt c cc php u l Pht php?"p: "(Khng nhng tt c cc php u l Pht php) m c nhng g khng phi lphp (phi php), nhng g khng phi l phi php (phi phi php), cng u l Pht phpc".

    14.3Hi: "Ci g tn l Php? Ci g tn l phi php? Ci g tn l phi-php phi-phi-php?"p: "Nhng g l php th tn l php (xc nh), nhng g khng phi l php th tn lphi-php (ph nh). Cn nhng g khng th suy ngh cn lng i i c, th c tnl phi php phi phi php".

    14.4Hi: "Ai chng minh cho li ".p: "Li chng ni n ci Ai, th ni g n ci chng".

    14.5Hi: "Khng c Ai th lm sao c thuyt?"p: "Chng c Ai, chng c Thuyt, tc l chnh thuyt".

    14.6Hi: "Ci g gi l t thuyt?"p: "L ngn thuyt m c sp t tnh ton".

    14.7Hi: " l s sp tnh ca ngi ta, cn th no mi l khng sp tnh?"p: "Sp t tnh ton th ch l li sung, cn trong li chng c li, th tnh ton cngchng c".

    14.8Hi: "C nh li , th tt c chng sinh bn lai gii thot?"p: " chng b buc ct, th lm sao cn c ngi gii thot".

    14.9Hi: "Php tn l g?"p: " chng cn c Php, th cn lm g c tn!"

    14.10Hi: "Nh thuyt , con cng thm kh phn gii".p: "Thc khng c php no phn gii, ngi ch cu phn gii".

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    14.11Hi: "Mc ch cui cng l sao?"p: "Khng bt u, chng chm dt!".

    14.12

    Hi: "Khng c c nhn qu, c chng?"p: "Khng gc tc l khng ngn".

    14.13Hi: "Ly g lm li chng?"p: "Chn thc khng chng thuyt".

    14.14Hi: "Th th lm sao hiu c, nhn ra?"p: "Hiu tt c cc php nh n l th. Thy tt c cc php u bnh ng".

    14.15Hi: "Tm no th hiu c, mt no th thy c?"p: "Hiu bng v tri, thy bng v kin".

    14.16Hi: "Ai ni li ?"p: "Nh ta va hi ".

    14.17Hi: "Th no l Nh-ta-va-hi-?"p: "Ngi t qun ly cu hi, s hiu c li p".

    14.18Nghe n Duyn Mn suy i ngh li ti nhiu ln, ri tch lng khng ni.

    Nhp L tin sinh hi: "Sao ngi khng ni?"

    Duyn Mn tha: "Con khng thy c c mt php, d nh nh ht bi, m c th bnlun c".

    Lc , Nhp L tin sinh lin ni vi Duyn Mn: "Nay ngi ging nh l k thyc ci l chn tht ri ".

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    15.1Duyn Mn hi: "Ti sao con t thy, ri li thy nh l khng?"

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    Nhp L ni: "Ci thy ca ngi lc ny l khng thy c mt Php no ht. Ging nhngoi o, tuy hc c php n hnh m vn cha th mt c bng, lp c du".

    [(V hu nht php gi), thy ci Khng, mi ch l phn gic cha phi l ton gic, nhmi hc c php n thn nhng vn cn l bng]

    15.2Duyn Mn hi: "Lm sao c c cch tiu vong c hnh ln bng?"

    Nhp L ni: "Bn v tm cnh, ngi ch khi sinh quan nim rng c sinh c dit."

    [Bn v Tm Cnh: Gc vn khng c c Tm (ch th) ln Cnh (i tng), v Phttnh bn lai vn tch lng sng ngi, chng sinh v m vng, nn b che m, v vy ngc sinh ra ci quan nim rng c sinh hay c dit (mc khi sinh dit chi kin).]

    15.3

    Hi: "L phm phu nn hi, l thnh nhn nn thuyt?"p: "C nghi nn hi, c gii p nghi ngi nn thuyt".

    15.4Hi: "Con nghe rng thnh nhn khng hi m t thuyt. gii thch iu g? C php thuyt c chng? Hoc v thy c iu h nghi ca ngi?"p: "Tt c u nh ty bnh m cho thuc. Nh khi c ting sm st, t phi c tingvang di vy".

    [Nng theo li Pht thuyt th Kinh Pht thng gi l Thp Nh B Kinh. Trong ThpNh B Kinh, th Pht ni kinh v ba l do chnh:

    1. Pht nng theo mnh m thuyt;2. Pht nng theo ngi ta m thuyt;3. Pht va nng theo mnh v ngi m thuyt.

    y, Pht khng i hi m t thuyt, thuc v b Udana (T thuyt), v 11 b khc]

    15.5Hi: "c Pht Nh Lai chng c tm m sinh, vy th v c duyn no m sinh rai?".p: "Th gii thi bnh, hu duyn m c Thy sinh".

    [C Thy (Thy tho): Theo truyn thuyt, thi thi bnh ca th gii, th c xut hinging c Thy mc.]

    15.6Hi: "c Nh Lai khng c ci mng phi tn, th ti sao li cht?".p: "Th gian khi gp nn i, l duyn cho ng cc dit tiu".

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    15.7Hi: "Con nghe c Pht thng (cho chng sinh) m khi nh, v lng t bi m ha chng sinh, (Pht php) ln lao chng g cn tr, lm sao li ging vi c Thy c?".p: "nh l Php thn, Bo Thn l nhc thn t i. p ng theo tng trng hp thgi l Ha Thn. Php thn th khng b Nhn qu tri buc, Ha Thn th khng v nhn

    duyn m lu. Xut hin hay mt i u thng sut an nhn, v vy nn gi l v ngi(khng cn tr)".

    15.8Hi: "Th no l bi (xt thng)?".p: "Nh Ha Thn th khng suy l, th hp chn khng, thng vn vt th v tm(khng c lng thin lch). V th m gi l Bi".

    15.9Hi: "Chng sinh tu o n lc no th c ging nh Nh Lai?".p: "Nu khng liu ng, th tu o mun kip nh ct sng Hng cng khng . Cn

    nu liu ng, ci thn ny ca chng sinh tc l Nh Lai. Th cn bn g n vic cging nh hay khng ging nh (Nh Lai)".

    15.10Hi: "C nh li , th tht d c qu Nh Lai. Ti sao li cn ni (c Pht) tu ti bai kip?".p: "Tht rt kh".

    15.11Hi: "Nu chng ng, thn ny tc l (Nh Lai). Ti sao cn ni l kh?".p: "Khi tm d, dit tm kh. Cho rng c thn th d, khng cho l c thn th kh.Hu th d, v th kh. V vy, nh l cng phu huyn diu th kh hiu, chn l k diuth kh hp. Bt ng tc l chn, tam thnh kh theo."

    15.12n , Duyn Mn qut ln, thanh trn mi hng. Bng nhin, m bt, khot nhini ng. Huyn Quang tnh tr, phn chiu v nghi. Ln u bit hc o tht kh, mngm tiu tan. Ri cao ging ni: "Lnh thay, lnh thay, nh tin sinh khng ni m ni, t khng nghe m nghe. Ni nghe hp nht, th tch lng khng li. Khng bit tin sinht tn cho nhng cu vn p va qua l g?"

    15.13Lc , Nhp L tin sinh, thn an bt ng, nhng mt khng ni, lic quanh bnhng, ha h ci vang. Ri ni vi Duyn Mn: "Phm n chn cng l vi diu, thkhng cn vn t. Nhng cu khi trc ngi hi, u do tm ngh suy tnh ton m ra.Mng th a oan, tnh ri th chng c. Ngi mun truyn lu i, nn i t tn gidu. Th gi l Tuyt Qun Lun vy".

    * Duyn Mn Lun mt quyn.A... Ch Trng X L, mi ngi gi mt quyn gio xt n cui.

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    [Theo n Hong Di Th Tng Mc Tc Dn (trang 271) c ch thch l cui bn TuytQun Lun cn c nm bn lun ny c sao chp li l nm Trinh Nguyn thMi (Triu i vua c Tn nh ng), tc l nm 795 theo Dng Lch]

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    KINH LNG GI (Trch)

    Ny Mahamati, c nhng ngi s kh nn ny sinh ra phn bit t sinh nn cu tmNit Bn, m chng hiu rng sanh t Nit Bn, vn chng th tch ri. Ri n khi nhnthy tt c cc php u chng c tht th h li tng rng Nit Bn l ci h v, nimi cn trn, cnh gii u tiu ma.

    Ny Mahamati, h khng thc ng ra rng Nit Bn chnh l s t gic thnh tr ca tngthc chuyn. V vy, phm phu ni rng c ba tha m khng bit ch l cc trng thica tm lng.

    Ny Mahamati, phm phu khng hiu c li dy ca cc Nh Lai, hin ti, qu kh vtng lai, rng tt c th gii ngoi ti u ch l cnh gii ca t tm (ngoi tm ra,khng c mt cnh gii no ht), nn h cho rng, ngoi tm ra cn c mt cnh giingoi ti. V vy, Mahamati, h t tri buc vo dng sinh t lun hi vy.

    Li na, theo li dy ca ba i ch Pht th vn php chng sanh. V ti sao? V chngch l s by hin ca t tm, nn khng c mt t tnh no ht.

    Ny Mahamati, cc tnh chng sanh, cc php cng ch nh sng th, sng nga; thnhng bn phm phu ngu si chng ng c s sai lm ca mnh nn cng sanh vngtng k tr.

    Ny Mahamati, cc php chng sanh th thuc v cnh gii t gic tr hu, ch khngphi thuc v th gii nh nguyn, phn bit ca bn phm phu ngu n (c kin chpsanh dit tr...)

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