LGE Internal Use Only Truth of Ecobubble ▌What SS says is trick says that “The Super Eco Wash program washes at just 15°C, (1)with the results of a 40°C wash , (2)saving up to 70% energy as a result .
Jan 12, 2016
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▌What SS says is trick
SS says that “The Super Eco Wash program washes at just 15°C, (1)with the results of a 40°C wash, (2)saving up to 70% energy as a result.
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Test result of Australia 3rd party ‘SGS’.
- Bubble reduces Washing Performance -
※Soil remove rate (%)
Cotton 40 , Intensive,℃Full Load (8kg)
76.2
77.6
BubbleOn
Bubble Off
[Washing Performance]
▌Same result with 40°C wash in cold wash?
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌ What is the problem of Eco bubble ?
Reduce the falling power
- Low washing performance -
6 motion increase falling power
Stepping- Powerful wash-
Non Bubble Bubble
Bubble Cushion
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌What is the problem of Eco bubble ?
Reduce the falling power
- Low washing performance -
non Bubble Bubble
WeakStrong Physical Power
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌SS’s Manual
SS say that fewer suds is better for washing
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌What SS says is trick
SS says that “The Super Eco Wash program washes at just 15°C, (1)with the results of a 40°C wash, (2)saving up to 70% energy as a result.
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Test result of Australia 3rd party ‘VIPAC’ and ‘SGS’.
It’s nature result
Water saving course, non-Intensive Full load(7.5kg)/ non bubble model
Water saving course, Intensive Full load(8.5kg) / Bubble model
1.079
0.374
Bubble OffWarm 40℃
Bubble onCold 15℃
(Tested energy, kWh)
0.695
0.132
Warm 40℃Cold 15℃
65.3%
81.0%
(Tested energy, kWh)
▌Saving up to 70% energy because of Bubble?
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌What is the problem of Eco bubble ?
SS Use 10L more water than LG WM for rinsing Bubble
- It’s not Eco -
More Bubble More Water
Truth of Ecobubble
36L
SS 15° (Cold) Super eco wash
[Water consumption]
47L
LG cotton eco 40° wash
[LG Lab Test Result]
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Test result of Australia 3rd party ‘SGS’.
- Bubble reduces Rinsing Performance -
※Detergent residue (ppm)
1.13
1.50
BubbleOn
BubbleOff
[Rinsing Performance]
Cotton 40 , Intensive,℃Full Load (8kg)
▌What is the problem of Eco bubble ?
Truth of Ecobubble
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▌ACCC News release
Truth of Ecobubble
(ACCC : Australian Competition and Consumer Commission)
ACCC judged that
Samsung’s Bubble advertisement is cheat.
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▌ACCC’s Notification on the Samsung’s website
Samsung admit bubble is cheat
ACCC : Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
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Samsung have to offer extended warranty as a penalty
LGE Internal Use OnlyConsumer Magazine
▌The Consumentenbond in Netherland
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Test result: Samsung eco bubble[Washing clean]The Samsung WF0804Y8E with Eco Bubble washes clean less than the average washing machine. This is true for the cotton cycle (program) as well as the synthetic cycle at 40ºC with Eco Bubble. However, the washing machine still receives a good score for the cotton cycle and a reasonably good score for the synthetic cycle.[15ºC just as clean as 40ºC?]According to Samsung the machine with the Super Eco cold cycle (at 15ºC) washes just as clean as the cotton cycle at 40ºC without the Eco Bubble. Generally, these cycles wash clean in a similar way, however Samsung does cheat at the 40ºC cotton cycle, since the temperature of the 40ºC cotton cycle only reaches 31ºC. Additionally, the cotton cycle without Eco Bubble is 10 minutes shorter than the Super Eco cycle. Because of this, it is easier to reach the same washing results with a 40ºC cycle as with a cold cycle. The 40ºC cotton cycle with Eco Bubble does reach the temperature of 43ºC though.[Rinsing]
The rinse result of the Super Eco Bubble is bad and the rinse result of the cotton cycles at 40ºC is reasonable. There are only 2 rinse cycles and it rinses too short.[Conclusion: Samsung Eco Bubble]
“Perfectly clean at 15ºC” is not completely true since the washing machine washes clean less than the cotton cycle with Eco Bubble at 40ºC that gets a good score. At low temperatures laundry without many stains probably will get clean sufficiently but the washing machine does not clean it better, per se, than other machines. It will be sufficiently clean for regular laundry without bad stains. The Super Eco cycle with cold water indeed uses less energy, 0.12kWh for 4kg instead of 0.42kWh for 4kg at 40ºC without Eco Bubble, so about 70% less.The Samsung WF0804Y8E also participated in the ordinary test of the Consumentenbond. See the results here.
- The Consumentenbond / Netherland -
Consumer Magazine
▌The Consumentenbond in Netherland
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“Power Foam was a washout”
“Power Foam didn’t wash as well with cold water as it did with warm”
“Save yourself $600 or more by choosing the LG”
* Consumer Union is an independent, nonprofit, and expert organization in the U.S.A.
CU’s mission is to provide a fair, just, and safe market place for all consumers.
Consumer Magazine
▌Consumer Union in USA
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▌Comparison of CMR Ranking
1. UK – Which(Nov. 2012) No. 1
No. 1
No. 136
12kg
12kg
The big gap of Washing performance
6Motion Vs Ecobubble
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▌Comparison of CMR Ranking
2. Italy – Altroconsumo(Sep. 2012) No. 1
No. 1No. 17
The big gap of Washing performanceExcellent
Good
Mediocre
Terrible
Acceptable
12kg12kg
6Motion Vs Ecobubble
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▌Comparison of CMR Ranking
3. Sweden – Rad&Ron(Sep. 2012) No. 1
No. 1
No. 9
12kg
7kg
7kg
7kg
7kg
7kg
8kg8kg7kg
No. 3
Even SS 12kg Model cannot
be ranked in the chart.
6Motion Vs Ecobubble