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Bajoran language, where can I learn it?Discussion in 'Star Trek:
Deep Space Nine' started by urbandk, Sep 14, 2009.
Anyone know any good Bajoran language resources? Common
expressions, maybe?
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urbandk said: ↑
Oh, I have a small Bajoran dictionary, taking words from
canon
and non-canon novels. Bajoran appears to be a language where
lexemes join together in compound words to establish more
complex ideas. This seems in keeping with the "root
ideograms"
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Anyone know any good Bajoran languageresources? Common
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of their written language. I've had great fun decoding a load
of
Bajoran words, even the very word "Bajora". I'll post it
here
tomorrow or something, when I can find it.
Deranged Nasat said: ↑
Thanks!
Okay, here's part one!
Note that while the words are either from canon (TV) or non-
canon authorized novels, and so are "genuine" the "decoding"
is
my own work, and may or may not be accepted, it's up to you
Bajoran words express large or complex ideas by joining
smaller words and lexemes together, in keeping with their
habit
of using "root ideograms" to construct more complex
writings.
A Prefix signifying "the", as in "The one true" or "the prime",
themodel example.
Aclim An era of history
Alva A yellow fruit. "va" is "source", and is found in the
namesof other foods like Veklava and Kava.
Amojan "The Evil One" (A-"The" Mo-"One", Jan-"Evil")
Amoran "The Banishment" (A-"The", Moran-"Banishment", tobecome
"one", cut off from others)
Ara/Arra "Place", usually more spiritual or figurative than
literal,although "the land and the people are one" as the Bajorans
say,so physical and spiritual location are linked
Ashalla Capital city of Bajor. ("A"-The, prime example,
"Shalla"-Social gathering of religious significance, itself from
"Shal"-
gather and "La"-Spiritual/community centre)
Ashla "Giant"
Asnor A fish
Avaru "Truth-seekers", a religious term from "A-The",
"Va"-Source, and "Ru"-seeking truth, understood as an implied
goal.
E.g. Ohalavaru are seekers of truth affiliated with the
teachings
of Ohalu.
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B' As a prefix, denotes something sacred or holy
B'hala The City of Light, the sacred city, ("B'"-Sacred/holy,
"Ha"-light, "la"-spiritual or social community centre)
B'hava'el Bajor's sun. "Source and bringer of holy light"
("B'"-Sacred/holy, "Ha"- light, "Va"-source, "el"-of, in the sense
of
bringing, bringer of)
B'Lavael A mountain where a holy man/woman was inspired tofound
a city ("B'"-Sacred/holy, "la"- community centre, "Va"-
source, "el"-of, in the sense of bringing, bringer of, here,
inspiration for)
B'tanay "Awakening", in a religious sense, sacred vision
orrevelation
Bajora The people, corruption of "B'Ja'arra"- Holy Social
position(e.g. "People of God") (B'-holy, "Ja"-social,
"arra"-position. Once a
theocratic nation, now a species name
Balik(am) "Go away", "get lost"
Bantaca Traditional spire marking co-ordinates
Bateret A plant
Batos A domesticated animal
Belaklavion A musical instrument
Bena "Joy"
Boryhas Spirits of the dead yet to depart for the
CelestialTemple
Buru "Bu"-Life, "Ru"-Seeking Truth, so "life spent in search
oftruth" as part of a religious existence, common word in
prayers
Cela A plant, leaves used in tea
D' As a prefix, signifies position, belonging, ownership
D'Jarra The old caste system. "Belonging to a social
position","D'"-belonging, "Ja"-social, "arra"-position.
Dal'Rok Demon spirit
Dara "Home", corruption of "D'Arra", literally
"belonging-place",D'-belonging, "Arra"-place.
De-ram "Opening Up", the process where by collective
religiouspassion is focused upon a designated prayer leader to
help
them access the Prophets more easily. Used as part of
prayers.
"De"-Up, "Ram"- to open.
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Duran "Remembrance"
Duranja Lamp lit for a dead friend, from "Duran"-remembrance,
and "Ja"- social.
El "Of, bringing"
Elipagh One who brings a spiritual message, a holy messanger,a
proxy, the Emissary.
Esani A flowering plant
Eyisa An era of Bajoran history
Foraiga A delicacy
Ha "Light"
Ha'Dara "Home of Light", name of planet settled by Hirogen-built
holograms, named by Iden, a Bajoran hologram.From "Ha"-
light, and "Dara"-Home, corruption of "D'Arra", literally
"belonging-place", D'-belonging, "Arra"-place.
Hara A feline animal. Seems to be "light-time". Hmmm, are
theyactive at dawn?
Hasperat Mmmmm...Hasperat....spicy burrito....
Ih "Assigning, locating"
Ih'tanu Traditional coming-of-age ritual for 14-year old
girls
Ih'valla A D'jarra, the artist caste. From "Ih"-assigning,
"Va"-source, "La"-spiritual community centre, "assignment to
the
source of our community spirit" (In keeping with this caste
being
a high one)
Iktashu Prophecy, possibly a specific kind.
Imutta (Ih'mutta) A D'jarra, the undetaker caste.
Indurane "Ancient" Note the root "Duran"-"remembrance".
Ja "Social", as in signifying a connection between other
conceptsin a compund word and everyday society/people
interacting.
Jal "Social freedom", an expansion of Ja, a prominent
andrespected social position arrived at through living in a
holy
manner.
Jalbador The Red Wormhole, worshipped as home of the godsby the
One True Way cult.
Jalkaree The Blue wormhole, home of the Prophets.
Notice"Jal"-social freedom and holy living, and "ka"-good.
Jan A different, darker kind of social freedom- "Evil". A
willful
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moral outcast from society exhibits Jan.
Ka "Goodness"
Kai "Goodness", with an intensifier "i". Leader of the
faith.
Kava A tree producing edible nuts, a staple of the Bajoran
diet."Source of Goodness", from "Ka"-goodness, and "va"-source.
Ke A personification of something, an avatar of an ideal
madephysical. Also a family name in some regions.
Kejal "Freedom", a name, from "Ke"-personification,
"jal"-socialfreedom, holy freedom".
Kejelious An era of Bajoran history
Kheet'agh An extreme insult
Koss "To be", modified to "Kosst" as a title of dark
religioussignificance, now used as a curse word by most Bajorans
due to
association with Kosst Amojan, The Evil One (To Be The Evil
One,
a self-satisfied label of extreme Jan).
Koss'moran "To be banished", to exist in a state of having
beenbanished, also a holy text detailing the imprisonment of
the
pah-wraiths.
Kulloth An polar herd animal
La Signifying a spiritual/community centre, often used in
thesense of a city or town.
Lita Bajoran currency, also a name, "Leeta".
Makapa A bread
Makara A medicinal herb used by pregnant women
Mandala A personal religious shrine found in most homes,centre
of the family community.
Mapa A bread
Mo The number one
Moba A fruit
Morala The one faith, from "Mo"-one, "Ra"-a sense of time,
and"la"-community, spiritual centre. Time will show the Bajoran
mainstream to be the one true faith. "Morala" is used in
some
older prayers from the more rigid and authoritarian cults.
Moran Banishment, becoming "one", cut off from others.
Navarch Title invented for Li Nalas
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Nerak A flower
Pagh The immortal soul, life-energy, spirit. Some possess moreor
stronger pagh than others. "Pah" is corrupted pagh.
Pagh'tem'fa B'tanay: "Awakening of the Sacred Vision",repressed
memories return to the fore in this religiously
significant event.
Pagh'tem'far A sacred vision
Paghvaram "Soul Key", from "pagh"-soul, "va"-source, and"ram"-to
open. "Varam"-source of open, is "key".
Pah-wran From the dark texts, a celebration of corrupted
life-energy.
Paluku Large furry spider-like animal native to the moons
ofBajor.
Pate Basic unit of measurement, used in Tessipate,
Kerripate,etc.
Pavrak Insulting word
Peldor "Gratitude". Peldor Joi is a greeting used in the
GratitudeFestival.
Pooncheen A fruit
Prusin A plant, some are allergic to it.
Pylchyk A domesticated animal
Ra Time, as an active force in one's spiritual life (there is an
Orbof Time, lest we forget).
Ram "To open". Note "ra", as time is actively invoked here.
Ran Signifies aftermath, end result of a process, outcome.
E.g,used as a root in "duran"-remembrance, or "moran"-banished.
Again, note "ra".
Ranjen An honorific title for monks involved in works
ofspiritual importance. "Anticipates aftermath", as in, working
towards a satisfaction upon completion of spiritual goals
Ratamba A stew
Remla A bird
Ru "Seeking truth"
Sean "swamp"
Shalla Social gathering of spiritual importance, from
"shal"-gather, and "la"-community spiritual centre.
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Shafa A gambling game
Shodi A drink
Shusha Medicinal herb
Takeo Medicinal herb
Te'nari A D'Jarra
Temonis A stone, pink
Tessijen A unit of measurement, note "jen" is
essentially"anticipate", a measure of distance from a goal or
destination,
perhaps?
Tumika An era of history
Va "source"
Vedek Senior clergy member
Veklava A food
Yavar "Tears"
Yavar ha "Tears of Light", AKA Tears of the Prophets, the
sacredorbs (older label)
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i wonder if i can get extra credit for my linguistics class
doing
this... >.>
arasam22 said: ↑
Real linguists are probably spluttering and shaking at this,
but
the patterns seem there, and I had so much fun doing this!
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i wonder if i can get extra credit for mylinguistics class doing
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Bajoran definitely seems a
build-big-words-and-concepts-out-of-
smaller-ones-language.
I liked how they reused the term "Balik" from "Ensign Ro" in
"A
Man alone" when the mob was shouting at Odo to leave.
Nice continuity moment.
Wow, I expected to come into this thread and read people
saying, "The Bajoran language hasn't been fleshed out much,"
but you definitely surprised me, Deranged Nasat!
Deranged Nasat said: ↑
I'm a 'real linguist' and I'm not shaking or spluttering -
that's
outstanding work! *Bookmarks*
Tallis Rhul said: ↑
Thank you, Tallis Rhul! that means a lot coming from someonewith
an actual background in linguistics
I've edited the full list in above.
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i wonder if i can get extra credit for mylinguistics class doing
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There's also Tessipate, which is a unit of measure for land.
you're a linguist, tallis rhul? that's so cool!!!!! i'm thinking
very
seriously about becoming a linguistics major...
Deranged Nasat said: ↑
Ugh. So basically they're Germans in space.
arasam22 said: ↑
I'm not a linguist by trade, but I have studied a number of
different languages including their roots (including study of
the
different branches of the languages "tree") and an in-depth
study of grammar, parts of speech and its different forms. It's
a
hobby that I'm very passionate about. If you did a
linguistics
major then you'd kick my ass... I tried to find an Open
University
course, but it's a lot of money... *weeps*
So while I'm not a pro I kinda do know what I'm talking
about
And to be able to do what Deranged Nasat has done here youneed
to have some kind of an idea too! (A very good one by the
looks).
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It'd be interesting to see if Marc Okrand was responsible
for
Bajoran... does anyone know?
Bluesteel said: ↑
or maybe the mohawk of space... in my linguistics textbook
there was this one example sentence of mohawk... a whole
sentence was represented by ONE WORD... there were like a
million little morphemes put together to make one long word.
awesomeness.
@TR: that's still pretty cool! too bad you can't get in a
college
course tho.
arasam22 said: ↑
I think I had that example in my General Linguistics book,
too.
I forgot which native American language it was, I just know
it
was an example of "incorporative" type of language (as
opposed
to isolating, agglutinative and inflective).
Geat work, Deranged Nasat! I can tell a lot of time and
effort
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Thank you, my friend
Wow!
Having done my own language work (the Cardassian language,
in my case), I have to say that's pretty cool! In my case I had
a lot
less onscreen evidence to contend with and therefore a lotmore
free rein--having to reconcile that degree of onscreen
evidence for what I do not think the DS9 writers were
actually
planning (I really get the impression of random syllables
being
written for the chants, Kosst Amojan passages, etc.), with
the
trappings of a true language would have been very tough
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Parts of the Bajoran alphabet(below)
The Bajoran language family was a group of both extinct and
existing languagesand dialects used on Bajor.
Written language EditThe Bajoran written language consisted of
square symbols which were composedof thick lines. There were a
large number of different symbols which could be usedin any of
eight rotations (flipped and rotated each and every way). Bajoran
tendedto be written in horizontal lines, although it could be
written vertically. (DS9:"Shadows and Symbols")
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Bajoran script
Example of written Bajoran, bothancient and modern,
translationprovided
Bajoran writing was said to be ideographic, that was, each
character represented asingle thought or word pictured. Most forms
of written Bajoran shared some rootideograms, as evidenced by the
Reckoning Tablet. Each ancient Bajoran symboltranslated into a pair
of nearly identical modern Bajoran symbols. (DS9: "TheReckoning")
Bajoran books are opened from left to right, though it is not clear
thatthis is related to the direction of writing. (DS9: "The
Changing Face of Evil").
Keiko O'Brien's classroom featured a chart depicting the
English, the Ferengi, theCardassian, and the Bajoran alphabet. The
chart listed some twenty-five Bajoranlanguage symbols. (DS9: "The
Nagus", "In the Hands of the Prophets", "Cardassians")
Established words and phrases EditAmoran - banished (DS9: "The
Assignment")
Balik(am) - "go away" or "get lost!", written and pronounced
like the Filipino word for "go back", which wouldalso fit as a
translation as seen on the scene (TNG: "Ensign Ro")
Bantaca - name for a traditional spire made out of thousands of
interlocked stones, marked with thecoordinates of the town or city
they represent (DS9: "Rapture")
Boryhas - term for ghosts or spirits of the dead (TNG: "The Next
Phase")
D'jarras - ancient Bajoran caste system (DS9: "Accession")
Duranja - lamp for the dead: candle suspended by chains from
four pillars (DS9: "Shakaar")
Ha'dara - Home of light (VOY: "Flesh and Blood")
Ha'mara - religious festival to celebrate the arrival of the
Emissary of the Prophets (DS9: "Starship Down")
Itanu - ceremony carried out when a child reaches the age of
fourteen (DS9: "Accession")
Kejal - freedom (VOY: "Flesh and Blood")
Kosst - to be (DS9: "The Assignment")
Peldar Joi - greeting used during the Gratitude Festival (DS9:
"Fascination")
Shawn - swamp, rhymes with Irish name Seán (DS9: "Let He Who Is
Without Sin...")
Religious terms Edit
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Ranjen - a monk, usually a title given as an honor (DS9: "The
Reckoning")
Prylar - a monk or priest (DS9: "The Collaborator")
Vedek - a senior member of the Bajoran clergy (DS9: "In the
Hands of the Prophets")
Kai - a leader of the Bajoran clergy (DS9: "Emissary")
Kosst Amojan - also known as Koss'moran, another name for the
Pah-wraiths; translates as the banishedones (DS9: "The
Assignment")
Pagh - the life energy, eternal energy or soul of a person (DS9:
"Emissary", et al.)
Pagh'tem'far - a sacred vision granted by the Prophets (DS9:
"Rapture")
Measurements EditKellipate - a measure of distance (DS9:
"Progress")
Tessipate - a measure of land area used on Bajor (DS9:
"Progress", "Children of Time")
Kerripate - a fraction of a tessipate (DS9: "Children of
Time")
Prayers EditRaka-ja ut shala morala... ema bo roo kana...
uranak... ralanon (NAME)... propeh va nara ehsuk shala-kan vunek
...
(do not let him walk alone... guide him on his journey...
protect... the one named (NAME)... take him into thegates of
heaven... )
Duranja lamp prayer for the recently deceased (the translation
comes from the script). (DS9: "Shakaar")
Ahn-kay ya, ay-ya vasu. Coh-ma-ra, di-nay-ya..
Bajoran death chant, repeated over and over again for
approximately three hours. (DS9: "Battle Lines")
Tesra Peldor impatri bren. Bentel vetan ullon sten..
Presiders address at the Gratitude Festival. (DS9:
"Fascination")
Jia'kaja, tre'nu'tol'a rem... La'por i'lanu kos... I'nar
tan'a'tali nor....
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Prayer to the prophets asking for protection or favor. (DS9:
"Starship Down")
Zhia'kala, tar'eh anu suur... te'von, aka'lu rez... ka'vor,
mat'ana kel..
Marriage blessing by the Emissary. (DS9: "Accession")
Boray pree hadokee. Tolata impara boresh. Preeya (GROOM'S NAME),
Preeya (BRIDE'S NAME), abremvaro atel..
Traditional marriage blessing used in conjuction with a simple
ceremony. (DS9: "Call to Arms")
lata impara no takash... with humility and gratitude, we accept
this gift... Veshanoo yavar ha iktasho...the sacred Orb of
Prophecy.
Orb blessing prayer. (DS9: "Resurrection")
(Prayer leader) Tera dak ihsehelm ran embah... (ALL) de-ram
ta-MEEN!
Chanted by Kai Winn and fellow Bajorans in the hours before the
Reckoning. (DS9: "The Reckoning")
Meeh rak Dorah Pah-wran... Ee-toi... Velah-slah... Pah-wran
amar... Pah-wran Evak-too...
Ancient Bajoran chanted by a Pah-wraith Cult Bajoran Assassin to
Benjamin Sisko, before attempting to killhim. (DS9: "Image in the
Sand")
Tarna pur-ono ull-kess pah-ran. lano ka'la bo'shar lanu.
Meek rak dorrah Pah-wran... Yelim cha ono kosst amojan... shay
ta-hel ter-rah no'vala de-ram... aka'lufar che...
Chants from the Book of the Kosst Amojan (DS9: "What You Leave
Behind")
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