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The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit I've Ever Read

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United States 7/16/2011 11:07 AM

I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470101

Ireland 7/16/2011 11:09 AM

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United States 7/16/2011 11:10 AM There is a lot of logic in it.

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United States 7/16/2011 11:12 AM There is a lot of logic in it. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Care to elaborate? Shield User ID: 1461270

United States 7/16/2011 11:55 AM Nope. It is not possible to reason with un reasonable people. Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1141097

United States 7/16/2011 7:35 PM Nope. It is not possible to reason with un reasonable people. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Nice cop-out. Why am I not surprised? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1463514

United States 7/16/2011 8:32 PM I read it OP. 7 times .....lol Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 8:36 PM I read it OP. 7 times .....lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1463514 I read the Kolbrin 3 times, but I think the Kolbrin is way better than the Urantia, which seems to me more like a new age fabrication. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1413194

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7/16/2011 8:36 PM i own it, tried to read it. really slow and boring. not sure what i think, did not read enough to judge..

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I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/16/2011 8:41 PM

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United States 7/16/2011 8:42 PM I read OP....7 times, lol. Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1141097

United States 7/16/2011 8:43 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1467263

Australia 7/16/2011 8:44 PM Yep, it's just another new age psyop Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470718

Canada 7/16/2011 8:45 PM Yea, OP, the first time I read the book I didn't understand it either. There is a whole lot if information and it is difficult to read. The second time through I didn't read it, I studied it. After a while I began to see the logic behind it and how everything is inter-related and inter-connected. It is actually a thing of beauty. You just need to give it more time. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1467263

Australia 7/16/2011 8:48 PM

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Yea, OP, the first time I read the book I didn't understand it either. There is a whole lot if information and it is difficult to read. The second time through I didn't read it, I studied it. After a while I began to see the logic behind it and how everything is inter-related and inter-connected. It is actually a thing of beauty. You just need to give it more time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470718 And that information, is bullshit. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 8:49 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Actually there could be something there, check this Kolbrin passage "The eternal ages of time unrolled as a scroll before his eyes, and he saw written thereon all that was to become and occur. The great vaults of Heaven were opened up unto him and he saw the everlasting fires and unconsumable powers that strove therein. He felt within himself the stirring of inexpressible love, and unlimited designs of grandeur filled his thoughts. His spirit ranged unhampered through all the spheres of existence. He was then even as God Himself, and he knew the secret of the Seven Spheres within Three Spheres. " Arjuna on the Gita "These would I not kill, though killed myself, O slayer of Madhu, even for the kingdom of the three worlds, much less for this earth" Anonymous Coward User ID: 1367016

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7/16/2011 8:51 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I disagree, it's not just "a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together"... sounds like a comprehension issue on your part OP Not to say the material isn't entirely speculative...since no one knows could possibly know this sort of information I agree with you that the book is probably BS But I like the way it's worded, it's fun to read Shustah Offer Upgrade User ID: 1417919

United States 7/16/2011 8:55 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess?



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Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Yep, couldn't agree with you more, I read it too, and my father put a note in the book that said it was one of the most worthless books ever written. My father has been gone for many years. Read "A Course in Miracles" now that is worth reading. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 8:57 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1141097

United States 7/16/2011 8:59 PM Yea, OP, the first time I read the book I didn't understand it either. There is a whole lot if information and it is difficult to read. The second time through I didn't read it, I studied it. After a while I began to see the logic behind it and how everything is inter-related and inter-connected. It is actually a thing of beauty. You just need to give it more time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470718 Yea...riiiiiiight. :/ I find it amusing that almost all religious texts have to be overly convoluted to the point of confusing the vast majority of people who read them. Just look at Christianity and all the hundreds of denominations with their alternate interpretations of biblical passages. You would think divine beings would have the knowledge, intelligence, and literary capability to keep their "divinely inspired texts" concise and to the point? But no, apparently not. It's always some retarded, jumbled, abstract writing that the vast majority of people won't understand, and most intelligent people will shrug it off as pure nonsense. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:03 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616


Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Anonymous Coward User ID: 560401

United States 7/16/2011 9:05 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I agree 100% - I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by L. Ron Hubbard. I read Urantia (as much as I could stand) and one of L. Ron's scientolgy books on "Dienetics"; very similar. Both are convoluted, boring and useless. Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1141097

United States 7/16/2011 9:06 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON


coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 9:07 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Yeah which doesnt mean the old beliefs didnt have truths to them, but it does means new agers are lying their asses off for a profit. And it doesnt make judeo-christianity the only true religion either, although i know you guys love to feel like you are in a battle against everyone else with your "chosen" religion.

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I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 The Prophets Are Sent Out, True and False...The Highminded Abased and Uplifted... The Great and Terrible Day of the Lord Has Come...Who Shall Stand?! 9/29/07 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear I am The Lord your God, who brought His people out of Egypt! I am The Lord God of Heaven and earth! I am THE GOD... There is none other besides Me! I have come in the flesh... Even many have beheld My face in the Redeemer. I come even to the outpouring of My Spirit on all flesh... You of this earth have not received of Me. I shall send many in My own name, in the spirit and power of Elijah. They shall prepare the way of the coming of The Lord... Holy and True... You shall spit at them... Even a great hissing among My own people, called by My own name, shall arise.


These sent shall be hated of all nations. Even among those in Israel, called of themselves “devout”, even these shall stone them in word and deed. Yet undaunted shall they, in turn, speak louder, and with a greater voice in concert, with the power of The Lord in their nostrils, a whirlwind of words and proclamations, miraculous signs and wonders, all in the name of YahuShua, The Mashiach. They shall trumpet and call upon the name of The Lord, in judgment and sanctification alike. These shall uplift and destroy with a word, yet they shall, in no wise, raise a hand against another. Theirs is the war of words, and strong shall the word of their mouth become... The voice of The Almighty uttered through men. As were the days of Noah, so shall the coming of The Son of Man be. So as it was in Egypt, so shall it be in the Day of Preparation... The time of war, the casting of judgment, plus one hundred fold! So as it was in all days, when the prophets were sent out, the showing of mighty signs and wonders... Even so it shall be from this time until the coming of The Lord! Beware... For lo, the time has come, the time is here also, when the evil one shall attempt the same... Believe not these prophets. Listen not to their subtle and dark speeches. Neither believe your eyes, though you behold their signs and wonders... Trickery, dark sentences, the power of the pit... Deceptions clothed in falsehoods, with the appearance of light and good. Have understanding and seek wisdom: Know who I have sent and am sending... The prophets, My witnesses, 144,000, Who cease not day and night from glorifying My name... Gifts and wonders without price, all in the name of the One True God, And Him called Christ and Jesus, Yeshua The Messiah and Risen One. Unless, My people, His name be called out in Truth, by no means shall one tittle come to pass or be accounted as true. Turn your backs, and run from all who proclaim not The Son of God Most High. Run, I say, and do not look back... Be wary and vigilant. And to those, among the churches, pray and open not your mouths. Pray and be quiet, open not your mouth... Pray and give heed. Know those I am sending and those I have sent already. Speak not one word in your heart, nor in your mind, against them. Nor in open, nor in secret, speak not one word against them; You speak against Me! For I have sent them. They carry nothing of their own, they have taken nothing with them. MY Word is in their mouth... MY trumpet is placed in their hands. The power of My own Spirit shall be established within them. It is I, even I, The Lord your God, who overshadows them. They shall follow the Lamb to and fro, in all the earth, and shall go


wheresoever He leads them... And shall take of Mine, given them by Him, through the Spirit, and show it to you. Churches, and those who lead them, stay silent and open not your mouths, and give heed to ALL The Lord’s commandments... And you shall receive of My glory and be lifted up. Forbear and speak, and I, Myself, shall come against you, making you dumb, unable to speak for a whole season... Abased in the sight of many witnesses, of whom you call your own flock. Yea, of these men and women among the churches, built up and named of men, listen and hear and give heed to the Word of The Lord Most High!... Thus says The Lord: Men of vanities and vain deceits, come down from your thrones of pride, and cast from yourselves these cloaks of arrogance you wear, for they shall be your undoing, even a strangling of your faith, which is at present already mortally ill. Take your filthy hands from off My throne and remove your feet from off My footstool! Cease from your judgments, repent of your heresies! Stop feeding My flocks in your own name! Church leaders, repent and humble yourselves at My feet, stop grasping at My robes!... My face is turned from you. You shall serve Me, oh yes, you shall be My servants. For as you have appointed your own selves in My name, so shall you serve Me in My name. Your works shall be tried in the Day and shall burn, and you all shall suffer great loss, but you shall yet be saved as one escaping through the fire. In your abasement shall you then stand up, and I shall uphold you, and you shall take My hand and receive knowledge of My goings out and comings in. You shall run gallantly, you shall do great exploits. You shall shine bright, even as the stars in heaven. And when your service is come to its end, you shall suffer a short season, testifying unto the end of The Greatest of All Loves. You shall die, yet you shall not sleep at all, having built a great city in the midst of great persecutions and sorrows, yet rejoicing shall only be heard, bringing many to the gates... A great city... A city, called Martyrdom. I shall lift you up, even to My own bosom, where all your sufferings shall pass away... All bruises healed and remembered no more. You shall come into glory, met with much singing... And lo, you shall return with The King in all His glory. Those, who were full, shall be left empty, so they may become truly filled up. Those, who were thought of as first, shall be last. And those, forsaken as last, shall be first partakers of the glory. Those, without knowledge, shall be given great knowledge, for Love has saved them. And those, who had attained great knowledge, shall be brought down to shame, So they too may be glorified in My presence, for Love has saved them. Therefore, let it be written and let it come to pass and understood: Nothing! NOTHING!... In all creation, shall usurp the will of The Most High God, Nor shall any run out ahead of Him... MY will shall be done. For it is purposed and can not be moved, Having already been written in everlasting stone, from the very foundation of the world.


Little children, what is My name?! What is My Son’s name?!... Listen to Him! It is He who speaks to you... Having received of Mine, and spoken it to those I send... Having received of His, and in turn spoken it to you. The Father and The Son are One! And these I send shall also be one in us, as you shall also become one. For the Day is coming, and is already here, when all things of His body shall be one. The judgment shall sit... The Mercy Seat established, and you as one at His right hand. And I, even I, shall be your God, and you shall be My people, forever and ever... One flock, with One Shepherd, One Father... Life without end. Amen. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMcko0atDJo&feature=player_embedded More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:11 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616

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Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Yeah which doesnt mean the old beliefs didnt have truths to them, but it does means new agers are lying their asses off for a profit. And it doesnt make judeo-christianity the only true religion either, although i know you guys love to feel like you are in a battle against everyone else with your "chosen" religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Actually the 3 major religions of this planet all stem from 1 source. muslim ,christian,jewish all have abraham as their father and origin of the faith . Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470637

United States 7/16/2011 9:11 PM New age channeling, oh my. No way in hell I'll support Candace beliefs, never. Nonetheless, I enjoy my freedom of speech so I will also defend her right to say what she will. Repent! and know that one day soon I will tread upon your weak and pathetic michael of nebadon. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:13 PM New age channeling, oh my. No way in hell I'll support Candace beliefs, never. Nonetheless, I enjoy my freedom of speech so I will also defend her right to say what she will. Repent! and know that one day soon I will tread upon your weak and pathetic michael of nebadon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470637 " channeling ".. yea is basiacally witchcraft


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United States 7/16/2011 9:13 PM Actually the 3 major religions of this planet all stem from 1 source. muslim ,christian,jewish all have abraham as their father and origin of the faith . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Don't you think that is really sad? Abraham, a guy who nearly murdered his own son because he "heard" a voice from God in his head. If Abraham is a role model for morality, then our planet is truly fucked.


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New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097




Deceptions, Clothed in Falsehoods, Called Wisdom and Truth... All in All, a Leading Away (Regarding New Age Spirituality, Buddhism, Etc.) 2/8/06 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Question asked by Timothy: Lord, what do you say about “new age spirituality”, psychics, mediums, Buddhism and the like? [Answer from God The Father] Timothy, I say to you, these things are vexation of spirit. People, such as these, cast stumbling blocks filled with evil... Their deception is subtle. They speak that which is spoken to them, by deceiving spirits, for this evil is the likes of which has not been seen, nor will be seen of, again. These spirits are cunning ones, sent out by the evil one, as a leading away from the Truth. They are evil spirits of the end of this age, coaxing all to their destruction, to be devoured by that which they had first conceived of in their own mind... Right has become wrong... And wrong has become right, and the right of the individual, Who has become a god unto themselves. My children have moved far from Me... They search in vain... For what, they know not. What they call “god” is nothing and dead... He is the devil and satan, and he has many disguises. Many are shown in peace and enlightenment, full of self and self-delusions. The spiritual fulfillment they seek, through meditation and enlightenment, is total starvation and thirst in the desert of lies, where all dead man’s bones are found, hidden in the mirage of inner peace. Thus says The Lord, who is all-knowing, even of that which is hidden: Christ Jesus is the fulfillment of all things... The lightening of your burdens, which is sin, the truth and understanding you seek... The Very Meaning of Life. He is The Bread of Life, feeding those en hungered, The Fountain of Living Water for those who thirst, The Prince of Peace... Seek Him, only, and receive glory. The world, and all therein, is vanity on top of vanities, And vexation of spirit, leading you into sin... And when it is finished, death.


Jesus, called Christ, is The Truth, The Way and The Life. Amen. More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:14 PM There is a lot of logic in it. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Yeah, Sci-Fi is like that Mr. Spock... Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:15 PM Actually the 3 major religions of this planet all stem from 1 source. muslim ,christian,jewish all have abraham as their father and origin of the faith . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Don't you think that is really sad? Abraham, a guy who nearly murdered his own son because he "heard" a voice from God in his head. If Abraham is a role model for morality, then our planet is truly fucked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 thats because your assuming the " voice in his head " was really just that. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1468124

Greece 7/16/2011 9:16 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity:



"(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the cosmology aspect of the book is boring for you, then try the last part with the life of Jesus. It's simple and straightforward. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:17 PM Nope. It is not possible to reason with un reasonable people. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Ha ha. You've gone and made another religion haven't you? L. Ron Hubbard was a terrible author, but he realized that there are many suckers out there ripe for the pickings.



New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616





Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466086

United States 7/16/2011 9:19 PM You're raunchy, eh? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:19 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you


think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 9:20 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to



comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Those people who wrote the new testament were surely smart huh? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:21 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I agree 100% - I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by L. Ron Hubbard. I read Urantia (as much as I could stand) and one of L. Ron's scientolgy books on "Dienetics"; very similar. Both are convoluted, boring and useless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401



L. Ron Hubbard sat on the Urantia board... Anonymous Coward User ID: 1448185

United States 7/16/2011 9:21 PM I too own the massive tome and am having a hard time processing it. I keep going back to world war Z... I own lots of religious tomes, new age thought books... maybe it's my older, medicated age, but I'm just not getting into Urantia. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:22 PM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455


United States 7/16/2011 9:24 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Those people who wrote the new testament were surely smart huh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Forethought, and no competition.



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Nope. It is not possible to reason with un reasonable people. Quoting: Shield 1461270 lol so true Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 9:25 PM well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Those people who wrote the new testament were surely smart huh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Forethought, and no competition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And passing people by the sword to help them accept the new religion.






United States 7/16/2011 9:28 PM Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Those people who wrote the new testament were surely smart huh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Forethought, and no competition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And passing people by the sword to help them accept the new religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Christianity put people to the sword to accept it ? where can i read this



For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org]





Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 We OP, it makes perfect sense to me because I understand how a lot of this work. Play with the math of Father son and spirit, there are 7 combinations possible. You ones have the trinity down wrong, it is not God, his only Son Jesus and some strange and weird holy spirit. These are FORCES of consciousness, more than "people" but the are self conscious also because that is the nature of consciousness. I have to personally work with Master Spirit #7 who is over the 7th superuniverse, his name as given simply in English is Siraya. This book was given for the study of those coming to this planet AFTER the cleansing and was gotten into print the year after the return of MIchael of Nebadon, covered as jesus in the UB. It was done at that time for anyone interested and to help awaken the star seeds from those higher realms that are here, and that is has done. I am one of them. Future students here will EXPLORE the nature of God and this book will be greatly helpful to

them. If you can't read some of it, find that which you can! and move from there. Go again to the UB thread here for selections of the more readable stuff. The study of God and the Creation is complex. And simple at the same time. now as to the 7 associative possibilities there is 1: Father 2: Eternal Son 3: Infinite Spirit 4: Father and Son 5: Father and Spirit 6: Son and Spirit 7: Father son and spirit. Now these are "forces" that work in certain ways, and the Trinity cannot be expanded beyond what it is, which is the 7 combinations above I just listed and as you study there are tons of 7 fold stuff, 7 is a very common number in the creation. The Master Spirits, are 7 one for each SuperUniverse. Again, ours is Siriya. They each live on 7 different spheres of the Infinite Spirit around Paradise. Infinite contributes EVOLUTIONARY MIND to the creation. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1417728

United States 7/16/2011 9:34 PM Yep, it's just another new age psyop Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1467263 New Age claptrap has fucked up many heads and led them firmly astray. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455



Cackling, hissing, clicks and whistles of a channeler Quoting: Nobody in Particular http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxL8jJ9L8s0&feature=player_embedded



Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxL8jJ9L8s0&feature=player_embedded




physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Anonymous Coward User ID: 560401

United States 7/16/2011 9:38 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 We OP, it makes perfect sense to me because I understand how a lot of this work. Play with the math of Father son and spirit, there are 7 combinations possible. You ones have the trinity down wrong, it is not God, his only Son Jesus and some strange and weird holy spirit. These are FORCES of consciousness, more than "people" but the are self conscious also because that is the nature of consciousness. I have to personally work with Master Spirit #7 who is over the 7th superuniverse, his name as given simply in English is Siraya. This book was given for the study of those coming to this planet AFTER the cleansing and was gotten into print the year after the return of MIchael of Nebadon, covered as jesus in the UB. It was done at that time for anyone interested and to help awaken the star seeds from those higher realms that are here, and that is has done. I am one of them. Future students here will EXPLORE the nature of God and this book will be greatly helpful to

them. If you can't read some of it, find that which you can! and move from there. Go again to the UB thread here for selections of the more readable stuff. The study of God and the Creation is complex. And simple at the same time. now as to the 7 associative possibilities there is 1: Father 2: Eternal Son 3: Infinite Spirit 4: Father and Son 5: Father and Spirit 6: Son and Spirit 7: Father son and spirit. Now these are "forces" that work in certain ways, and the Trinity cannot be expanded beyond what it is, which is the 7 combinations above I just listed and as you study there are tons of 7 fold stuff, 7 is a very common



number in the creation. The Master Spirits, are 7 one for each SuperUniverse. Again, ours is Siriya. They each live on 7 different spheres of the Infinite Spirit around Paradise. Infinite contributes EVOLUTIONARY MIND to the creation. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Don't take this the wrong way but your writing appears to be as convoluted as the the book itself. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 9:39 PM Those people who wrote the new testament were surely smart huh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Forethought, and no competition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And passing people by the sword to help them accept the new religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Christianity put people to the sword to accept it ? where can i read this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Ever wondered where paganism went in Europe? Or how most of south america ended up being roman catholic?



I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at




creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I agree 100% - I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by L. Ron Hubbard. I read Urantia (as much as I could stand) and one of L. Ron's scientolgy books on "Dienetics"; very similar. Both are convoluted, boring and useless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401 L. Ron Hubbard sat on the Urantia board... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 No he did not. That is an internet fabrication. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:39 PM In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901


hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular How many demons do you host Candace? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/16/2011 9:40 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I agree 100% - I wouldn't be surprised if it was written by L. Ron Hubbard. I read Urantia (as much as I could stand) and one of L. Ron's scientolgy books on "Dienetics"; very similar. Both are convoluted, boring and useless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401 L. Ron Hubbard sat on the Urantia board... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 No he did not. That is an internet fabrication.


Quoting: Nobody in Particular Yes, he did. You are a snake in the grass Candace. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 9:41 PM In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Where is your brain ? can't you see that the book was gotten through occult means ? How do you know those beings that channeled the book had good intentions ? It is the same method used by witches just repackaged and renamed to fit the 20th century . It shares the same points as the major pagans beliefs in so much that when the nwo unifies the religions into the final one you will not have a problem with it.. The same way the catholics did with the greek religions to create the catholic religion






nip your attracting lots of attention.thats a good thing,for the fear mongers,give it a rest already.live in your reality,why the need to attack if your so comfy in your reality.stay there.that would be the wise choice.u cant change or save anyone.its the souls freedom which give its it right to choose.and believe what ever it wants in the matrix


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Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation Re: The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit I've Ever Read Quote [+] # Deceptions, Clothed in Falsehoods, Called Wisdom and Truth... All in All, a Leading Away (Regarding New Age Spirituality, Buddhism, Etc.) 2/8/06 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Question asked by Timothy: Lord, what do you say about “new age spirituality”, psychics, mediums, Buddhism and the like? [Answer from God The Father] Timothy, I say to you, these things are vexation of spirit. People, such as these, cast stumbling blocks filled with evil... Their deception is subtle. They speak that which is spoken to them, by deceiving spirits, for this evil is the likes of which has not been seen, nor will be seen of, again. These spirits are cunning ones, sent out by the evil one, as a leading away from the Truth. They are evil spirits of the end of this age, coaxing all to their destruction, to be devoured by that which they had first conceived of in their own mind... Right has become wrong... And wrong has become right, and the right of the individual, Who has become a god unto themselves.



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My children have moved far from Me... They search in vain... For what, they know not. What they call “god” is nothing and dead... He is the devil and satan, and he has many disguises. Many are shown in peace and enlightenment, full of self and self-delusions. The spiritual fulfillment they seek, through meditation and enlightenment, is total starvation and thirst in the desert of lies, where all dead man’s bones are found, hidden in the mirage of inner peace. Thus says The Lord, who is all-knowing, even of that which is hidden: Christ Jesus is the fulfillment of all things... The lightening of your burdens, which is sin, the truth and understanding you seek... The Very Meaning of Life. He is The Bread of Life, feeding those en hungered, The Fountain of Living Water for those who thirst, The Prince of Peace... Seek Him, only, and receive glory. The world, and all therein, is vanity on top of vanities, And vexation of spirit, leading you into sin... And when it is finished, death. Jesus, called Christ, is The Truth, The Way and The Life. Amen. More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ







For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically fundamental in its organization and administration." [link to www.urantia.org] Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 We OP, it makes perfect sense to me because I understand how a lot of this work. Play with the math of Father son and spirit, there are 7 combinations possible. You ones have the trinity down wrong, it is not God, his only Son Jesus and some strange and weird holy spirit. These are FORCES of consciousness, more than "people" but the are self conscious also because that is the nature of consciousness. I have to personally work with Master Spirit #7 who is over the 7th superuniverse, his name as given simply in English is Siraya. This book was given for the study of those coming to this planet AFTER the cleansing and was gotten into print the year after the return of MIchael of Nebadon, covered as jesus in the UB. It was done at that time for anyone interested and to help awaken the star seeds from those higher realms that are here, and that is has done. I am one of them. Future students here will EXPLORE the nature of God and this book will be greatly helpful to

them. If you can't read some of it, find that which you can! and move from there. Go again to the UB thread here for selections of the more readable stuff. The study of God and the Creation is complex. And simple at the same time. now as to the 7 associative possibilities there is 1: Father 2: Eternal Son 3: Infinite Spirit 4: Father and Son 5: Father and Spirit 6: Son and Spirit 7: Father son and spirit. Now these are "forces" that work in certain ways, and the Trinity cannot be expanded beyond what it is, which is the 7 combinations above I just listed and as you study there are tons of 7 fold stuff, 7 is a very common number in the creation.



The Master Spirits, are 7 one for each SuperUniverse. Again, ours is Siraya. They each live on 7 different spheres of the Infinite Spirit around Paradise. Infinite Spirit contributes EVOLUTIONARY MIND to the creation. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Don't take this the wrong way but your writing appears to be as convoluted as the the book itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401 Well you are going to have to wade thru the book if there is interest and some of it will come in time. STart with the easy parts, there are easy parts. The creation consists of the Central Universe around which all the rest of the Creation turns, just as earth turns around our sun, which turns around Alcyone and I don't know what Alcyone turns around. There are 7 superuniverses, that turn around the Central Universe. We live in #7 and it's massive, the Milky Way is the core Galaxy of it, but not the whole thing. The creation is totally MANAGED and each Master Spirit is in the fullest sense the MIND of each Superuniverse. God is not a bunch of people running earth people. Every time you say GOD SAYS, you don't have a clue what you mean by that, I promise you. It's your guardian angels and lots of others in the hierarchy. Just as we have layers of hierarchy here on earth. Presidents, mayors, kings, queens, countries, states and so on and so forth. What you label God are ADMINISTRATORS. Each superuniverse has 100,000 LOCAL universes. Each of these has a government. Michael of Nebadon, Jesus, is the CREATOR SON (GOD) of Nebadon. The Gabriel is for example the chief Executive of Nebadon. Ponder that one new agers when you do your silly fluffy stuff on these high administrators. There are not fluffy winged pretty folks OK. But there are a lot of Arch angels here on earth at this time. Your fluffy Arch Angel Michael is not a fluff at all. he administrates the upcoming resurrection. He is called the Arch Angel of the Resurrection. You ones have got to take on some serious material and drop your bibles and new age bullshit too for that matter. Your Ashtar Command has as it's main purpose the evacuation of this planet when the time comes. The New Jerusalem is the command craft with a computer that maintains your soul records just in case of man playing with Nuclear energies which harm soul matter. I tried doing a thread on heaven once, what you do for eternal life, well people are still 3 years old here, and the result was not pretty. You ones have got to work on expanding your concept of "God." the UB is a very good place to do that. --------------------------------------------------------- Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. Love is the desire to do good to others-Urantia Book Fresh Revelation for this age found in The Urantia Book, The Phoenix Journals, The Course in Miracles (the 365 lessons, NOT the URTEXT which is FULL of BLING and otherwise google Candace Frieze. Also visit [link to www.wisdomoftherays.com] , Dolores Cannon, and Conversations with God, in which the main God giving the material is Buddha.

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We must build a new SANE world, ONE THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY, for the reason money is the root of all evil, is that it Enslaves the SOUL. Be about watching Aaron Russo's From Freedom to Fascism. Seeking Visionaries,who can and will create the many messianic missions needed to heal Earth and her peoples, and bring balance. Seeking those who Know their truth, ( as they listen to Their Father Fragment) and will strive earnestly to stand in that truth 100% of the time, making every moment of everyday, a Holy Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Every Day is the Lord's Day. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470219

United States 7/16/2011 9:57 PM If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular The biblical account is truth. The nwo (read: Roman Catholic Church) creates these false religions to lead the masses away from the truth. At the top of them all is either a mason or a jesuit.



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If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular The biblical account is truth. The nwo (read: Roman Catholic Church) creates these false religions to lead the masses away from the truth. At the top of them all is either a mason or a jesuit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470219 the biblical account is part truth and so incomplete it causes massive confusion. It has been changed by the Khazar Thugs who are the Jesuits and others of the Roman Church. I know that church and I do not disagree with your comment. However, the UB is NOT FROM the Roman Church. It was given by the many in the heaven you ones don't even have a clue what it is. You don't have a clue how important this tiny little planet i to the creation or the larger reasons why Michael of Nebadon came as part of Jesus 2000 years ago. There is much more at stake on this planet than story book tellings of God. You have been given a rare rare educational opportunity in the UB because of who is going to be living on this planet in the future after the removal of the dark thugs who have come to the end of their proverbial rope. The creation is HUGE and fully populated by both angel and man, so to speak. And it is you ones to become like that angels and to become like the Father if you want that journey. It is a CAREER choice, eternal life. Imagine trillions of years of life. what do you do for that time? I did run a thread on that idea once, and from also my experience in life here, new agers think heaven is a place of fluff and bliss, where they don't do karma anymore and Christians think they will have barecues with jesus and family for trillions of years. And some wrote it didn't matter there is no time. well there is time, another big lie. Time just various depending on where you are. This solar system UPGRADE going on, is part of a massive wondrous plan and it should fascinate you ones. Please find the spirit within and get excited and play in the Urantia Book for starters. This is a sick world. You must find ways to do better. Those that do not want better will get to move to another place where "better" is not desired. I would ponder that, because you don't move up until there is DESIRE to know more. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470796

United States 7/16/2011 10:18 PM L. Ron Hubbard took a giant shit on the Urantia book . FACT !!!




L. Ron Hubbard took a giant shit on the Urantia book . FACT !!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470796 who is he but a man?why use that word? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616

Spain 7/16/2011 10:23 PM New age is basically built upon channeling, I think channeling is clearly bullshit, more of people hearing voices and feeling chosen. Guess what, we are all in shit's creek when doom comes, as much as your religion tells you you're special.



If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught






this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular How many demons do you host Candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 exactly none. You ones don't even know what a demon is either, that is a term of those who are still stuck in a the mediocre superstitions of religion. And since the bestowal of the SPIRIT OF TRUTH unsavory ones can longer possess people. That you believe so is a lie. they can mind fuck with people but not possess them and they are "demons" in the first place. Dark beings are dark beings, period. Most of what is considered demonic possession is mental illness. To you witchcraft folks, JESUS by your own definitions of witchcraft performed witchcraft. PONDER that ONE. He healed the sick, et all, remember? And he did a great more than that, in mental work on this planet. People that do not understand god are naturally superstitious and thus prey for those who would use them. Perhaps a study of the UB would move some of you past that stuff. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/16/2011 10:26 PM



New age is basically built upon channeling, I think channeling is clearly bullshit, more of people hearing voices and feeling chosen. Guess what, we are all in shit's creek when doom comes, as much as your religion tells you you're special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 not all,some choose love n happyness


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7/16/2011 10:26 PM Srce: CORNERSTONE magazine, vol. 20, issue 97, pp. 19, 23. Date: 1992 Titl: THE URANTIA BOOK: A Brief Description and Its Secret Author Discovered Note: Electronic text is somewhat expanded from the printed edition. A book which appears frequently in the hands of mystical, New Age, and spiritual seekers is THE URANTIA BOOK. Easily recognizable as a massive blue $34 hardback, THE URANTIA BOOK consists of 2097 pages of channeled material. Though first published in 1955, the bulk of its material was actually channeled in the early 1930s. (Its publishers and supporters dislike speaking of THE URANTIA BOOK in terms of "channeling" or "spirit mediumship," since this draws attention to its anonymous human author, who wished his identity to be kept a secret.)... [link to www.culthelp.info]



New age is basically built upon channeling, I think channeling is clearly bullshit, more of people hearing voices and feeling chosen. Guess what, we are all in shit's creek when doom comes, as much as your religion tells you you're special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 not all,some choose love n happyness

Quoting: riderr And love and Happiness, is a powerful definition of the creation and God. Because of the love that is the Creation, it is not possible for a "hell fire" place of eternal judgement to exist. It is simply not possible. The gods create in nothing but love. One Who Knows User ID: 1470816

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of the whole thing.... including the demonic channeling "teaching mission" movement now tied into 9/11 theories and the whole galactic brotherhood nonsense. The bible is where its at. Read all the "holy" books and put them into practice. When all is said and done, brother, sister . . . the bible . . . Jesus . . . is the only way.... Pray sincerely about it . . . and you will be Shown.bt



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United States 7/16/2011 10:33 PM clarifying... I have read all the so-called "holy" books and put them into practice . . . from Gaudiya Vaishnvism . . . through Sufi. . . Zen . . . Buddhism . . . B. of M. . . . Lao Tzu, Ramakrishna . . . Bhagwan/Osho . . . and a LOT more..... The Jesus of the bible is the Way, after all is said and done... OWK User ID: 1470816

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Spain 7/16/2011 10:36 PM New age is basically built upon channeling, I think channeling is clearly bullshit, more of people hearing voices and feeling chosen. Guess what, we are all in shit's creek when doom comes, as much as your religion tells you you're special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 not all,some choose love n happyness




Quoting: riderr I'd like to see you saying the same when there's cannibals roaming the wastelands. You live in a delusional fantasy world because like most new agers you cant tolerate the harsh reality of the world of matter.

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It's garbage ...the tiny bit that I was able to stomach anyway. New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs.



It's garbage ...the tiny bit that I was able to stomach anyway. New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan everyone is free to choose.what I dont understand,is why when people choose what they seem to like,they are attacted. But everyone has a oppinion and its respected with me as you know.What you see as crap,others see as not crap.Just souls freedom.I do understand that this is open discussion.so feel free to call it crap,and respect others beliefs.Personally,It was this "crap"That motivated me to stop injesting poison.Not sure if your still brushing with colgate,But if you are,weather its crap or not,you should stop.










It's garbage ...the tiny bit that I was able to stomach anyway. New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan the UB is hardly new age horseshit Scrump, thanks for just admitting you can't read. Start with the last 3rd of the book about your beloved Jesus. It is written more simply with less new words and concepts in it. It does not have to be read from the beginning but I suggest Paper 1 not the intro, for a starter on God, because you ones don't have a clue of what god is at all. There is nothing in the UB about crystal rubbing. And none in the Phoenix Journals either. You christians do nothing better than crystal rubbing yourselves, otherwise we would not be destroying the Middle east for Israel right now. You just rub away aboout Jesus and do nothing. I agree there is a lot of new age horseshit, after all the CIA and the roman church got into it, in order to derail the star seeds who could not accept the horseshit that the roman churches christianity has become. READ the whole last 1/3 about Jesus, it might just change your mind, because so much more teaching was given, than ever hit your bible. You ones must expand your MINDS beyond all the horseshit and the UB is the quickest way to do so. There are people who deliberately spread lies about it, because they want you to remain under their control. If enough people would read this book and also discern 911 and all the other games, we could build an enlightened society very rapidly and put these thugs out of business. To the ones posting on this matter world, it is very possible to move beyond it, and move it up. That is the whole point of the incarnation of Jesus in fact. This is an extremely LOW and Tight matter world. Matter here has the possibility of descending into a black hole in fact. There is great effort going on above in fact to prevent this, because the other solution if we cannot be successful is to blow the planet to smithereens, which is exactly what the dark are hoping for, and will do of their own accord to keep it out of God's hands.






It's garbage ...the tiny bit that I was able to stomach anyway. New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan the UB is hardly new age horseshit Scrump, thanks for just admitting you can't read. Start with the last 3rd of the book about your beloved Jesus. It is written more simply with less new words and concepts in it. It does not have to be read from the beginning but I suggest Paper 1 not the intro, for a starter on God, because you ones don't have a clue of what god is at all. There is nothing in the UB about crystal rubbing. And none in the Phoenix Journals either. You christians do nothing better than crystal rubbing yourselves, otherwise we would not be destroying the Middle east for Israel right now. You just rub away aboout Jesus and do nothing. I agree there is a lot of new age horseshit, after all the CIA and the roman church got into it, in order to derail the star seeds who could not accept the horseshit that the roman churches christianity has become. READ the whole last 1/3 about Jesus, it might just change your mind, because so much more teaching was given, than ever hit your bible. You ones must expand your MINDS beyond all the horseshit and the UB is the quickest way to do so. There are people who deliberately spread lies about it, because they want you to remain under their control. If enough people would read this book and also discern 911 and all the other games, we could build an enlightened society very rapidly and put these thugs out of business. To the ones posting on this matter world, it is very possible to move beyond it, and move it up. That is the whole point of the incarnation of Jesus in fact. This is an extremely LOW and Tight matter world. Matter here has the possibility of descending into a black hole in fact. There is great effort going on above in fact to prevent this, because the other solution if we cannot be successful is to blow the planet to smithereens, which is exactly what the dark are hoping for, and will do of their own accord to keep it out of God's hands. Quoting: Nobody in Particular To me,that was powerful.The whole 911 issue and how it ruined the middle east and the USA and put people,some,in a total state of pride fear and other issues.I was confronted by a idiot at my sons football game because I had my us marines hat on during some us bs song.People are so gullable.such a shame






Srce: CORNERSTONE magazine, vol. 20, issue 97, pp. 19, 23. Date: 1992 Titl: THE URANTIA BOOK: A Brief Description and Its Secret Author Discovered Note: Electronic text is somewhat expanded from the printed edition. A book which appears frequently in the hands of mystical, New Age, and spiritual seekers is THE URANTIA BOOK. Easily recognizable as a massive blue $34 hardback, THE URANTIA BOOK consists of 2097 pages of channeled material. Though first published in 1955, the bulk of its material was actually channeled in the early 1930s. (Its publishers and supporters dislike speaking of THE URANTIA BOOK in terms of "channeling" or "spirit mediumship," since this draws attention to its anonymous human author, who wished his identity to be kept a secret.)... [link to www.culthelp.info] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 The anonymous human author was a star seed incarnate from the highest realms and he authored NONE OF IT. He was attunded to vacate his body thru self hypnosis so those of the higher realms could use it. just as Edgar Cayce did, as the sleeping prophet and just as Dolores Cannons clients do under hypnosis now. Spirit beings do not have fingers to type and vocal cords to speak thru. Back then there were no computers of merit. The best they can do is incarnate into one of these forms and just as you ones make fun of me who did so, so would all of them and nothing would have been accomplished because man always hangs those that come to inform him. The person that was the sleeping prophet would have been venerated or destroyed, and thus it was necessary to keep it secret. The book would never have been published. One day in fact hypnosis will be a highly used method of healing of past life shit.

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7/16/2011 11:15 PM I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary...



Bottom line.Its how much love your soul can hold.Not fear,hate,pride ect Love.and to not to judge others.I never go on anyones thread and bash the ops beliefs.Because that is what they believe.why others do bash others beliefs and tack on fear is wierd to me.Very weird.Its the love you show that the creator sees,Not the book you read.weather or not which book is real.They just discovered a unknown tribe in the amazon.are they all cursed because they have yet to read a book?They live off the earth,creat no wars or pollution,love under no laws.saw it an TV this week or last



I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan .






Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 ^^THIS^^



I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Although I have not been in the carib, I have lived around black communities where throwing spells is used. I understand the evil this can be used for. And it's opposite the casting of LOVE to the person, the plant, the Earth herself accomplishes what it is aimed for, that of uplifting and good. When it comes to the spiritual arts, it is the intent and how they are used. Your gathering of loved ones around the sick and joining of hands to heal is exactly the same thing. And it HEALS does it not? People, it depends on intent and motive, where their is destruction or love. There are black magicians and their are white magicians. One destroys, the other builds. Ponder that. "Jesus" was a "white magician." Did he not heal the multitudes? did he not FEED the multitudes? Did he not walk on water and calm the storms? Did he not say that you too one day would do the same? Ponder it. And dear one, Yahweh was a dark being himself and he forbade these things because he did not want you to discover the powers of mind and creation, used in love. Ponder that one. There is a reason the satanists teach material to keep you from knowing the power of God. Which is knowing the power of your mind to create. Satanists do NOT want you to CREATE, for therein, if you figure that out, they are so out of here.




For beloveds there is only MIND in the whole of the creation Matter is MIND concentrated. You soul IS your MIND. YOur MIND survives your death. It is the REAL YOU. You take it forever into your eternal life, if you choose eternal life and you grow it and grow it, until you know it all, if that is ever even possible. The reason it is taught that God knows it all, is because everything that has even been done is stored in the MIND of the CREATION. You are all part of the ONE MIND. After all, it is the will of the Father that you become like him, and know all things. Become LIKE

HIM. The Trinity is the ONE MIND of the CREATION in the simplest of terms. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/16/2011 11:36 PM Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/16/2011 11:32 PM I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Although I have not been in the carib, I have lived around black communities where throwing spells is used. I understand the evil this can be used for. And it's opposite the casting of LOVE to the person, the plant, the Earth herself accomplishes what it is aimed for, that of uplifting and good. When it comes to the spiritual arts, it is the intent and how they are used. Your gathering of loved ones around the sick and joining of hands to heal is exactly the same thing. And it HEALS does it not? People, it depends on intent and motive, where their is destruction or love. There are black magicians and their are white magicians. One destroys, the other builds. Ponder that. "Jesus" was a "white magician." Did he not heal the multitudes? did he not FEED the multitudes? Did he not walk on water and calm the storms? Did he not say that you too one day would do the same? Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular So basically from your words you practice the arcane arts..your a witch. in your words .... Anonymous Coward User ID: 1417728



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Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation Re: The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit I've Ever Read Quote [+] # I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Although I have not been in the carib, I have lived around black communities where throwing spells is used. I understand the evil this can be used for. And it's opposite the casting of LOVE to the person, the plant, the Earth herself accomplishes what it is aimed for, that of uplifting and good. When it comes to the spiritual arts, it is the intent and how they are used. Your gathering of loved ones around the sick and joining of hands to heal is exactly the same thing. And it HEALS does it not? People, it depends on intent and motive, where their is destruction or love. There are black magicians and their are white magicians. One destroys, the other builds. Ponder that. "Jesus" was a "white magician." Did he not heal the multitudes? did he not FEED the multitudes? Did he not walk on water and calm the storms? Did he not say that you too one day would do the same? Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular So basically from your words you practice the arcane arts..your a witch. in your words ....








Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 A very deceptive one at that.



New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan the UB is hardly new age horseshit Scrump, thanks for just admitting you can't read. Quoting: Nobody in Particular And like Beetlejuice... speak the words & it appears.



New Age horseshit for crystal-rubbing wackjobs. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan the UB is hardly new age horseshit Scrump, thanks for just admitting you can't read. Quoting: Nobody in Particular And like Beetlejuice... speak the words & it appears. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan








420 peace to all.lighten up,as I take a toke,god forbid.Now that I am stoned.I just want to say to all who have posted here.That I love you all.I respect each and everyone of you.If I may have offended anyone when I was'nt stoned.I apologize,please forgive me.The last time I got stoned was over two weeks ago.I have to sometimes pee in a cup to have the pain meds from the surgery I had 9 or so weeks ago.I had to test clean.I dont like laws.I respect them.One day we will all know the truth,until that day,we need to stay united in full love mood depsite our diffrences,Its a trap.Lets call it the book trap,paused takes another toke,it might be boring on a open speach forum if everyone loved everyone.But how would that really be????????????????Yikes!Like no more wars,no need for law,no slavery,elites,hidden knowlegde keep from the poplulation to control.Maybe there are demons,gods,ect.My souls is immortal,it can not be harmed.This is proven in various ways.Its only the skin and bones in the matrix to not understand a books or a religion ect.Time for us folks to understand the oneness.You read every thread and even I can be accused of debating ones free thought.The day we learn to respect free thought and love everyone,no matter what there belief is the day we break those heavy heavy chains!

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NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Resistance is futile.






Prepare to be assimulated! lol



NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimulated! lol Quoting: Aussie Nurse Pfft...Hardly. ;-)



NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimulated!






lol Quoting: Aussie Nurse Im taking one more toke,one toke over the line now.I can only speak from a soul point of view.One that totally respects how you feel.Now How my soul feels.That we have to live united,despite our own minds manifestations.That is when we break the slumber of thoughtless direction.To further enslave our souls.Creat more negitivity. The minute that everyone goes into the love,is the minute we are reborn.Fully awake.



NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Prepare to be assimulated! Quoting: Aussie Nurse I'll pass... So what's up Fir? Have ya been a lass w/ a lad's name all this time?






Other untruths are spread through various channelled material such as the material presented by the Galactic Federation/Galactic Confederation of Light. The information presented is alien-based channelled material that superficially appears to attack the New World Order while it is in fact in support of the NWO. The information is a distorted montage taken from various sources and mixed together until it forms a conglomeration of misinformation that best suits the agenda for the NWO. The echelon of those who produce the Galactic Federation information is linked to the Dark Brotherhood. That is why these messages sponsor Maitreya, the Ascended Masters, and often declare Jesus as one of their Ascended Masters. It is of interest that many of the high-ranking promoters of the Galactic Federation material are members of the CIA. The Galactic Federation, under this or other names, is affiliated with and/or sponsored by the NWO. That is why they present the NWO agenda that the Earth is about to shift to the fourth or fifth dimension and that the aliens associated with the Galactic Federation are here to help earthlings in the transition. This dimensional-shift canard is useful in trying to bring all the people of the Earth under a single umbrella, under a single police force. The originators of this nonsense are having a good laugh at the gullible people who have accepted the channelled material as truth. They also make certain that their agents post and spread this misinformation far and wide. Even though they will soon be exposed as frauds, they do not concern themselves because they believe they are in control of the situation. The ruling elite has "created" its own false prophets and prophecies. Likewise, they have "created" their own channellers to give out information to benefit the NWO agenda. Free At Last! [link to xeeatwelve.net]


United States 7/17/2011 12:04 AM I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Although I have not been in the carib, I have lived around black communities where throwing spells is used. I understand the evil this can be used for. And it's opposite the casting of LOVE to the person, the plant, the Earth herself accomplishes what it is aimed for, that of uplifting and good. When it comes to the spiritual arts, it is the intent and how they are used. Your gathering of loved ones around the sick and joining of hands to heal is exactly the same thing. And it HEALS does it not? People, it depends on intent and motive, where their is destruction or love.

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There are black magicians and their are white magicians. One destroys, the other builds. Ponder that. "Jesus" was a "white magician." Did he not heal the multitudes? did he not FEED the multitudes? Did he not walk on water and calm the storms? Did he not say that you too one day would do the same? Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular So basically from your words you practice the arcane arts..your a witch. in your words .... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 A very deceptive one at that. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Look in its signature. Say everything you need to know about this person. She is a willing host to unclean spirits. She lets other things drive her vehicle. There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Quoting: Candace the witch Anonymous Coward User ID: 1335901

United States 7/17/2011 12:06 AM NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimulated! lol Quoting: Aussie Nurse Im taking one more toke,one toke over the line now.I can only speak from a soul point of view.One that totally respects how you feel.Now How my soul feels.That we have to live united,despite our own minds manifestations.That is when we break the slumber of thoughtless direction.To further enslave our souls.Creat more negitivity. The minute that everyone goes into the love,is the minute we are reborn.Fully awake.

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Too much feelings ..you use too much feelings . Proverbs 14:12 " There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. " Feelings....



Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And here come the Candace proxies...








Demons can be subtle Might even be "feel-good"... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1417728 Let me explain the word "demon." it is NOT real. it is a thought form. it is the result of the imaginings of man and it is a 3d mind movie. It has no consciousness of its self. yet it can per be perceived by self and others. It's a mind construct. it has no power except that which you give unto it. And the mind of this world, the total is full of negative thought forms. Create positive ones instead and raise up the mind of earth, this rids the planet of the very negative realms in which the dark thought form exists. There are great ones who come to do nothing more in fact than this, think the world a better place and many of you who are light workers are here to do this plus demonstrate rightful living. During the magnetic Pole reversal, when the rotation of the earth stops, the change of gravitational fields allows these demonic forms to leave the planet, where they are "rounded up" and destroyed, as the planet IS heavily infected with them. Should you come across a "demon" in your dreams, YOU HAVE the POWER IN THE NAME of JESUS to uncreate it by the way dear ones. SPELLS used by black magicians create these demons which infect the person they are created to harm, like a virus in a way. They can literally made ones ill and die. You are NOT to partake of these creations but understand every time you HATE someone and intentionally have bad thoughts of their destruction or some other loss to them, such as maybe you wish them fired, you have just created a destructive thought form. Now this world is a prison ward for dark people. MIND is very powerful, and ones early discover this, with or without knowing it. You are KEPT on worlds like this until you learn to CREATE LOVE and LOVE THOUGHT FORMS. For you can send a LOVE THOUGHT FORM, called a nice little fairy, or whatever, that can heal. Or you can send a demon thought form that can harm. You are not let off worlds like this one until you know the difference. And the lower astral IS polluted again with these . And they are of your very own creation people. Ponder it. Create in the light instead. In fact dear light workers with your help PLUS that os those on craft etc, and the wave improving the matter and the like, demons are being released that are stored in the depths of the earth. I had one come up thru my own house a few months ago now. I just called it the screaming banshee. some of you are familiar with the word banshee, that is what the "demon" is. Demons do not possess, they are not conscious enough to do that. They are just "computer programs" is you will. there is great teaching that can be done around computer concepts. You might call them a computer virus as an analogy. Jesus didn't have computers to use for analogy back then. In fact beloveds when man proves his mind under control you will have living thinking computers. But back to my screaming banshee. I was cooking at my stove. which like many stoves has a counter next to it, mine has one of both sides. suddently there was intense vibration or shaking I heard but did not see, next to the stove. Initially, I thought perhaps the pot of water had a loose lid and was beginning to boil, although this was not like that, but I saw nothing else to blame it on. It was NOT the pot. It continued, this loud vibrating noise, yet nothing on the counter was moving at all. the noise was actually more in the air btween the counter and the cupboard above. All of a sudden whatever was vibrating, let out a screech, sort of like a smoke detector going off, but there is no smoke detector there, but that was the only sound I could relate it too. In a short time both the shaking and the screaming stopped. It took me some time to figure it out actually. I went out to see if something maybe got into the stove vent, but the noise and vibrating


was NOT from the stove vent. But the stove vent was too close to the roof to let anything in there that could scream, or vibrate. This was NOT wind in that, the noise was NOT in the stove went. It was not the fan in the stove vent. It was a screaming banshee coming up from somewhere deep under neath. Since I live on a trash dump, one could consider maybe something long buried???? I don't know, but anyway, it was free and it left. VOO DOO folks know how to do this. And maybe even this was the creation of a voo doo expert because I have do have enemies. Who knows, but Christ Michael got a laugh out of the story anyway and accepted "screaming banshee" as the cause. I hope this writing puts to rest something of demons. Demons are not dark spirits. They are dark thought forms or mind creations. Dark spirits are entities. If you feel a thought form that well feels good and lovely, somebody just sent you a nice little fairy, ok. If it's harmful and ugly, someone has sent a demon and sadly light workers can be plagued with them. And dark invisible entities as masters at creating demons. This is why you call them demonic in fact. Light workers create nice little fairies instead of demons. That is how someone at great distance can send you a HUG. And a hug does "feel good." send lots of nice little fairies to the ones you

love and send them to one who don't love you too. And now I am editing this because Rider below here has used this symbol of love at the end of his

post. Now some of you seeing that, me included felt that "love". Well those little hearts used by Rider did in fact create a nice little fairy which you felt, did it not? so here's a kiss to all of you, this thread has been wondrous tonight, it's my bed time and I am going to bed.

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--------------------------------------------------------------- Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. Love is the desire to do good to others-Urantia Book Fresh Revelation for this age found in The Urantia Book, The Phoenix Journals, The Course in Miracles (the 365 lessons, NOT the URTEXT which is FULL of BLING and otherwise google Candace Frieze. Also visit [link to www.wisdomoftherays.com] , Dolores Cannon, and Conversations with God, in which the main God giving the material is Buddha. We must build a new SANE world, ONE THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY, for the reason money is the root of all evil, is that it Enslaves the SOUL. Be about watching Aaron Russo's From Freedom to Fascism. Seeking Visionaries,who can and will create the many messianic missions needed to heal Earth and her peoples, and bring balance. Seeking those who Know their truth, ( as they listen to Their Father Fragment) and will strive earnestly to stand in that truth 100% of the time, making every moment of everyday, a Holy Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Every Day is the Lord's Day. --------------------------------------------------------------



NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimulated! lol Quoting: Aussie Nurse Im taking one more toke,one toke over the line now.I can only speak from a soul point of view.One that totally respects how you feel.Now How my soul feels.That we have to live united,despite our own minds manifestations.That is when we break the slumber of thoughtless direction.To further enslave our souls.Creat more negitivity.





The minute that everyone goes into the love,is the minute we are reborn.Fully awake.

Quoting: riderr Too much feelings ..you use too much feelings . Proverbs 14:12 " There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. " Feelings.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 My soul is sacred and I do love you as we are part of one.



creat a love filled world and drift of to sleep with love.Night everyoe.this time Im tired:OI think:)








NiP will wear you all down to your knuckles. Prepare to be assimulated! Quoting: Aussie Nurse I'll pass... So what's up Fir? Have ya been a lass w/ a lad's name all this time?

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan I just traded in the squirrel for a girl. I think calling myself Aussie Fir would be a little over the top. Just trying to deal with life head on.








Other untruths are spread through various channelled material such as the material presented by the Galactic Federation/Galactic Confederation of Light. The information presented is alien-based channelled material that superficially appears to attack the New World Order while it is in fact in support of the NWO. The information is a distorted montage taken from various sources and mixed together until it forms a conglomeration of misinformation that best suits the agenda for the NWO. The echelon of those who produce the Galactic Federation information is linked to the Dark Brotherhood. That is why these messages sponsor Maitreya, the Ascended Masters, and often declare Jesus as one of their Ascended Masters. It is of interest that many of the high-ranking promoters of the Galactic Federation material are members of the CIA. The Galactic Federation, under this or other names, is affiliated with and/or sponsored by the NWO. That is why they present the NWO agenda that the Earth is about to shift to the fourth or fifth dimension and that the aliens associated with the Galactic Federation are here to help earthlings in the transition. This dimensional-shift canard is useful in trying to bring all the people of the Earth under a single umbrella, under a single police force. The originators of this nonsense are having a good laugh at the gullible people who have accepted the channelled material as truth. They also make certain that their agents post and spread this misinformation far and wide. Even though they will soon be exposed as frauds, they do not concern themselves because they believe they are in control of the situation. The ruling elite has "created" its own false prophets and prophecies. Likewise, they have "created" their own channellers to give out information to benefit the NWO agenda. Free At Last! [link to xeeatwelve.net]

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424606 You know, its really sad that lady got so confused. She writes well. she knows Jesus is back, she says so. She knows that this world is all tied up in knots of light and dark and the light is being rescued from those knots. In fact they will be rescued by the Magnetic Pole Reversal, during which the dark knots will be so outta here. And will be moved to wherever they best fit, because they don't fit here anymore. But you see JESUS is the COMMANDER of this large game to get the light rescued from the dark. And the galactic IS federation, under the command of Esu Immanuel Sananda Kumara. And his large team. What she does not see apparently or perhaps she does, is that the THUGS have infested the teachings just as they have infested the teachings in all the



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religions. They put out CRAP in new age too, and many new agers have taken up working with them, because they want to much to serve, they take black money and to have the black money, they have to give up their principles. And of course there are flat plain out and out dark ones playing on purpose too. Just as there are dark clerics in all your churches, and the bigger the church, the more they are there pretending. The Galactic Federation of Light is overseen by those from heaven. The dark forces are not a bit pleased and they have mucked up everything. Even the Teaching Mission set up. There are real TRs and TRs with microphones on them,,,, pretending. And now more and more there are the phone conferences in all groups, where people are not fully present and cannot observe the process at all, making deception even easier. SAD. I have shed a lot of tears again this past year at what the thugs have accomplished and what certain black magicians from the carib did to one of them locally that i knew. Understand I do understand something of how the black magic arts are used. I have seen them in action and I have been around ones trying to infiltrate me and thus I just don't bother to attend anything of this sort anymore. They infect everything, the 911 truth movements, the police forces against that, all sorts of groups trying to teach all sorts of truth. They are masters at what they do. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/17/2011 12:40 AM Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/17/2011 12:39 AM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And here come the Candace proxies...

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Drink another, and try again. Try reading this time...







Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And here come the Candace proxies...

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Drink another, and try again. Try reading this time... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Yeah I'll get right to that...



well I see I must have done something right here, here come the anti candace big guns.




But I love you anyway, you provide me such opportunity.

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There is a lot of logic in it. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Yeah, Sci-Fi is like that Mr. Spock... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Sci Fi taught you ones a lot about the universe you know. Star Trek in particular, and go back to Bewitched if you are old enough to remember it. Star Wars, not too bad........



I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint.




Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 The Prophets Are Sent Out, True and False...The Highminded Abased and Uplifted... The Great and Terrible Day of the Lord Has Come...Who Shall Stand?! 9/29/07 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear I am The Lord your God, who brought His people out of Egypt! I am The Lord God of Heaven and earth! I am THE GOD... There is none other besides Me! I have come in the flesh... Even many have beheld My face in the Redeemer. I come even to the outpouring of My Spirit on all flesh... You of this earth have not received of Me. I shall send many in My own name, in the spirit and power of Elijah. They shall prepare the way of the coming of The Lord... Holy and True... You shall spit at them... Even a great hissing among My own people, called by My own name, shall arise. These sent shall be hated of all nations. Even among those in Israel, called of themselves “devout”, even these shall stone them in word and deed. Yet undaunted shall they, in turn, speak louder, and with a greater voice in concert, with the power of The Lord in their nostrils, a whirlwind of words and proclamations, miraculous signs and wonders, all in the name of YahuShua, The Mashiach. They shall trumpet and call upon the name of The Lord, in judgment and sanctification alike. These shall uplift and destroy with a word, yet they shall, in no wise, raise a hand against another. Theirs is the war of words, and strong shall the word of their mouth become... The voice of The Almighty uttered through men. As were the days of Noah, so shall the coming of The Son of Man be. So as it was in Egypt, so shall it be in the Day of Preparation... The time of war, the casting of judgment, plus one hundred fold! So as it was in all days, when the prophets were sent out, the showing of mighty signs and


wonders... Even so it shall be from this time until the coming of The Lord! Beware... For lo, the time has come, the time is here also, when the evil one shall attempt the same... Believe not these prophets. Listen not to their subtle and dark speeches. Neither believe your eyes, though you behold their signs and wonders... Trickery, dark sentences, the power of the pit... Deceptions clothed in falsehoods, with the appearance of light and good. Have understanding and seek wisdom: Know who I have sent and am sending... The prophets, My witnesses, 144,000, Who cease not day and night from glorifying My name... Gifts and wonders without price, all in the name of the One True God, And Him called Christ and Jesus, Yeshua The Messiah and Risen One. Unless, My people, His name be called out in Truth, by no means shall one tittle come to pass or be accounted as true. Turn your backs, and run from all who proclaim not The Son of God Most High. Run, I say, and do not look back... Be wary and vigilant. And to those, among the churches, pray and open not your mouths. Pray and be quiet, open not your mouth... Pray and give heed. Know those I am sending and those I have sent already. Speak not one word in your heart, nor in your mind, against them. Nor in open, nor in secret, speak not one word against them; You speak against Me! For I have sent them. They carry nothing of their own, they have taken nothing with them. MY Word is in their mouth... MY trumpet is placed in their hands. The power of My own Spirit shall be established within them. It is I, even I, The Lord your God, who overshadows them. They shall follow the Lamb to and fro, in all the earth, and shall go wheresoever He leads them... And shall take of Mine, given them by Him, through the Spirit, and show it to you. Churches, and those who lead them, stay silent and open not your mouths, and give heed to ALL The Lord’s commandments... And you shall receive of My glory and be lifted up. Forbear and speak, and I, Myself, shall come against you, making you dumb, unable to speak for a whole season... Abased in the sight of many witnesses, of whom you call your own flock. Yea, of these men and women among the churches, built up and named of men, listen and hear and give heed to the Word of The Lord Most High!... Thus says The Lord: Men of vanities and vain deceits, come down from your thrones of pride, and cast from yourselves these cloaks of arrogance you wear, for they shall be your undoing, even a strangling of your faith, which is at present already mortally ill. Take your filthy hands from off My throne and remove your feet from off My footstool! Cease from your judgments, repent of your heresies! Stop feeding My flocks in your own name! Church leaders, repent and humble yourselves at My feet, stop grasping at My robes!... My face is turned from you. You shall serve Me, oh yes, you shall be My servants. For as you have appointed your own selves in My name, so shall you serve Me in My name. Your works shall be tried in the Day and shall burn, and you all shall suffer great loss, but you shall yet be saved as one escaping through the fire. In your abasement shall you then stand up, and I shall uphold you, and you shall take My hand and receive knowledge of My goings out and comings in. You shall run gallantly,


you shall do great exploits. You shall shine bright, even as the stars in heaven. And when your service is come to its end, you shall suffer a short season, testifying unto the end of The Greatest of All Loves. You shall die, yet you shall not sleep at all, having built a great city in the midst of great persecutions and sorrows, yet rejoicing shall only be heard, bringing many to the gates... A great city... A city, called Martyrdom. I shall lift you up, even to My own bosom, where all your sufferings shall pass away... All bruises healed and remembered no more. You shall come into glory, met with much singing... And lo, you shall return with The King in all His glory. Those, who were full, shall be left empty, so they may become truly filled up. Those, who were thought of as first, shall be last. And those, forsaken as last, shall be first partakers of the glory. Those, without knowledge, shall be given great knowledge, for Love has saved them. And those, who had attained great knowledge, shall be brought down to shame, So they too may be glorified in My presence, for Love has saved them. Therefore, let it be written and let it come to pass and understood: Nothing! NOTHING!... In all creation, shall usurp the will of The Most High God, Nor shall any run out ahead of Him... MY will shall be done. For it is purposed and can not be moved, Having already been written in everlasting stone, from the very foundation of the world. Little children, what is My name?! What is My Son’s name?!... Listen to Him! It is He who speaks to you... Having received of Mine, and spoken it to those I send... Having received of His, and in turn spoken it to you. The Father and The Son are One! And these I send shall also be one in us, as you shall also become one. For the Day is coming, and is already here, when all things of His body shall be one. The judgment shall sit...


The Mercy Seat established, and you as one at His right hand. And I, even I, shall be your God, and you shall be My people, forever and ever... One flock, with One Shepherd, One Father... Life without end. Amen. Video: More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ Quoting: TrumpetCallOfGod.com You know, the LORD GOD who brought the HEBREWS out of Egypt were the kind people from the PLANET Thiaoouba, don't you? Oh and Thiaoouba is pronounced sort of like Jehovah. They parted the REEd sea, fried sodom and gomorrah, gave Moses the 20 commandments, some of which were lost, amongst others things Lord Gods do. And they dropped the manna too, a rich

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United States 7/17/2011 1:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation Re: The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit I've Ever Read Quote [+] # I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom.








In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Ever read Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard? That book was so full of shit it wasn't even funny, but he got people to believe that it was real, that it was an historical document and there wasn't a shred of evidence to support that, but people bought it, read it, and thought, wow, this makes a lot of sense.....doesn't that tell you something? If people can think it is real, how is it any different from the bible? Or the book of mormon? Or the Phoenix Journals? How are they real or true? People made that shit up, and wanted so badly to think it was something more than made up shit, that they will kill to support it, does that tell you something? Lies sell more than truth apparently, and this is no different. Why do people have to read things and then without making up their own minds say it must be true!!!!.....I mean WHY? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470615

United States 7/17/2011 1:13 AM pulling an all nighter huh candace?


Germany 7/17/2011 1:15 AM

I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that .




What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 ^^THIS^^ Quoting: TXGal4Truth Deceptions, Clothed in Falsehoods, Called Wisdom and Truth... All in All, a Leading Away (Regarding New Age Spirituality, Buddhism, Etc.) 2/8/06 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear Question asked by Timothy: Lord, what do you say about “new age spirituality”, psychics, mediums, Buddhism and the like? [Answer from God The Father] Timothy, I say to you, these things are vexation of spirit. People, such as these, cast stumbling blocks filled with evil... Their deception is subtle. They speak that which is spoken to them, by deceiving spirits, for this evil is the likes of which has not been seen, nor will be seen of, again. These spirits are cunning ones, sent out by the evil one, as a leading away from the Truth. They are evil spirits of the end of this age, coaxing all to their destruction, to be devoured by that which they had first conceived of in their own mind... Right has become wrong... And wrong has become right, and the right of the individual, Who has become a god unto themselves. My children have moved far from Me... They search in vain... For what, they know not. What they call “god” is nothing and dead... He is the devil and satan, and he has many disguises. Many are shown in peace and enlightenment, full of self and self-delusions. The spiritual fulfillment they seek, through meditation and enlightenment, is total starvation and thirst in the desert of lies, where all dead man’s bones are found, hidden in the mirage of inner peace.


Thus says The Lord, who is all-knowing, even of that which is hidden: Christ Jesus is the fulfillment of all things... The lightening of your burdens, which is sin, the truth and understanding you seek... The Very Meaning of Life. He is The Bread of Life, feeding those en hungered, The Fountain of Living Water for those who thirst, The Prince of Peace... Seek Him, only, and receive glory. The world, and all therein, is vanity on top of vanities, And vexation of spirit, leading you into sin... And when it is finished, death. Jesus, called Christ, is The Truth, The Way and The Life. Amen. More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ


Germany 7/17/2011 1:19 AM

I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There





isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 The Prophets Are Sent Out, True and False...The Highminded Abased and Uplifted... The Great and Terrible Day of the Lord Has Come...Who Shall Stand?! 9/29/07 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear I am The Lord your God, who brought His people out of Egypt! I am The Lord God of Heaven and earth! I am THE GOD... There is none other besides Me! I have come in the flesh... Even many have beheld My face in the Redeemer. I come even to the outpouring of My Spirit on all flesh... You of this earth have not received of Me. I shall send many in My own name, in the spirit and power of Elijah. They shall prepare the way of the coming of The Lord... Holy and True... You shall spit at them... Even a great hissing among My own people, called by My own name, shall arise. These sent shall be hated of all nations. Even among those in Israel, called of themselves “devout”, even these shall stone them in word and deed. Yet undaunted shall they, in turn, speak louder, and with a greater voice in concert, with the power of The Lord in their nostrils, a whirlwind of words and proclamations, miraculous signs and wonders, all in the name of YahuShua, The Mashiach. They shall trumpet and call upon the name of The Lord, in judgment and sanctification alike. These shall uplift and destroy with a word, yet they shall, in no wise, raise a hand against another. Theirs is the war of words, and strong shall the word of their mouth become... The voice of The Almighty uttered through men.


As were the days of Noah, so shall the coming of The Son of Man be. So as it was in Egypt, so shall it be in the Day of Preparation... The time of war, the casting of judgment, plus one hundred fold! So as it was in all days, when the prophets were sent out, the showing of mighty signs and wonders... Even so it shall be from this time until the coming of The Lord! Beware... For lo, the time has come, the time is here also, when the evil one shall attempt the same... Believe not these prophets. Listen not to their subtle and dark speeches. Neither believe your eyes, though you behold their signs and wonders... Trickery, dark sentences, the power of the pit... Deceptions clothed in falsehoods, with the appearance of light and good. Have understanding and seek wisdom: Know who I have sent and am sending... The prophets, My witnesses, 144,000, Who cease not day and night from glorifying My name... Gifts and wonders without price, all in the name of the One True God, And Him called Christ and Jesus, Yeshua The Messiah and Risen One. Unless, My people, His name be called out in Truth, by no means shall one tittle come to pass or be accounted as true. Turn your backs, and run from all who proclaim not The Son of God Most High. Run, I say, and do not look back... Be wary and vigilant. And to those, among the churches, pray and open not your mouths. Pray and be quiet, open not your mouth... Pray and give heed. Know those I am sending and those I have sent already. Speak not one word in your heart, nor in your mind, against them. Nor in open, nor in secret, speak not one word against them; You speak against Me! For I have sent them. They carry nothing of their own, they have taken nothing with them. MY Word is in their mouth... MY trumpet is placed in their hands. The power of My own Spirit shall be established within them. It is I, even I, The Lord your God, who overshadows them. They shall follow the Lamb to and fro, in all the earth, and shall go wheresoever He leads them... And shall take of Mine, given them by Him, through the Spirit, and show it to you. Churches, and those who lead them, stay silent and open not your mouths, and give heed to ALL The Lord’s commandments... And you shall receive of My glory and be lifted up. Forbear and speak, and I, Myself, shall come against you, making you dumb, unable to speak for a whole season... Abased in the sight of many witnesses, of whom you call your own flock. Yea, of these men and women among the churches, built up and named of men, listen and hear and give heed to the Word of The Lord Most High!... Thus says The Lord: Men of vanities and vain deceits, come down from your thrones of pride, and cast from yourselves these cloaks of arrogance you wear, for they shall be your undoing, even a strangling of your faith, which is at present already mortally ill. Take your filthy hands from off My


throne and remove your feet from off My footstool! Cease from your judgments, repent of your heresies! Stop feeding My flocks in your own name! Church leaders, repent and humble yourselves at My feet, stop grasping at My robes!... My face is turned from you. You shall serve Me, oh yes, you shall be My servants. For as you have appointed your own selves in My name, so shall you serve Me in My name. Your works shall be tried in the Day and shall burn, and you all shall suffer great loss, but you shall yet be saved as one escaping through the fire. In your abasement shall you then stand up, and I shall uphold you, and you shall take My hand and receive knowledge of My goings out and comings in. You shall run gallantly, you shall do great exploits. You shall shine bright, even as the stars in heaven. And when your service is come to its end, you shall suffer a short season, testifying unto the end of The Greatest of All Loves. You shall die, yet you shall not sleep at all, having built a great city in the midst of great persecutions and sorrows, yet rejoicing shall only be heard, bringing many to the gates... A great city... A city, called Martyrdom. I shall lift you up, even to My own bosom, where all your sufferings shall pass away... All bruises healed and remembered no more. You shall come into glory, met with much singing... And lo, you shall return with The King in all His glory. Those, who were full, shall be left empty, so they may become truly filled up. Those, who were thought of as first, shall be last. And those, forsaken as last, shall be first partakers of the glory. Those, without knowledge, shall be given great knowledge, for Love has saved them. And those, who had attained great knowledge, shall be brought down to shame, So they too may be glorified in My presence, for Love has saved them. Therefore, let it be written and let it come to pass and understood: Nothing! NOTHING!... In all creation, shall usurp the will of The Most High God, Nor shall any run out ahead of Him... MY will shall be done. For it is purposed and can not be moved, Having already been written in everlasting stone, from the very foundation of the world. Little children, what is My name?! What is My Son’s name?!... Listen to Him! It is He who speaks to you... Having received of Mine, and spoken it to those I send... Having received of His, and in turn spoken it to you.


The Father and The Son are One! And these I send shall also be one in us, as you shall also become one. For the Day is coming, and is already here, when all things of His body shall be one. The judgment shall sit... The Mercy Seat established, and you as one at His right hand. And I, even I, shall be your God, and you shall be My people, forever and ever... One flock, with One Shepherd, One Father... Life without end. Amen. Video: More and free: [link to trumpetcallofgod.com] Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: Letters from God and His Christ Quoting: TrumpetCallOfGod.com You know, the LORD GOD who brought the HEBREWS out of Egypt were the kind people from the PLANET Thiaoouba, don't you? Oh and Thiaoouba is pronounced sort of like Jehovah. They parted the REEd sea, fried sodom and gomorrah, gave Moses the 20 commandments, some of which were lost, amongst others things Lord Gods do. And they dropped the manna too, a rich

food consumed aboard craft which travel deep space. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

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7/17/2011 1:19 AM The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11)

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Germany 7/17/2011 1:21 AM

The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Exactly




Amen to the word of the Lord.



pulling an all nighter huh candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470615 One who sees...



The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that






they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099


United States 7/17/2011 1:23 AM Regardless of the source of its origin, it is absolutely clear to me that the primary motivation behind writing the Urantia Book was to strike a mortal blow at the credibility of, and The Truth found within, the pages of the Holy Bible. It is for this reason that I prefer to call it the Unbelief Book, as its sole purpose is to rob one's faith in the Bible as the inspired Word of God. As will be seen by Mr. Week's letter below, the Urantia Book strike at the very heart of Christianity, at the Cornerstone of our Faith, which is the redemptive Blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross at Calvary. I do not recommend that any Christian, particularly young Christians who are new in the Faith and not yet grounded in the True Word of God, read this demonic work of darkness. If you do, you may find yourself seriously doubting your Christian heritage! As far as I can tell, the voice or entity which inspired this book is definitely NOT of God. As John warns us in his first epistle: "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1) [link to www.endtimeprophecy.net] Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

United States 7/17/2011 1:26 AM The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)

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"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 :colorbump: Quoting: TXGal4Truth hey TxGal... it's Salt&Light... remember me? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/17/2011 1:31 AM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 And here come the Candace proxies...


Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Good Scrump, because I cannot think of anything more insulting than being compared to Candace as a proxie or otherwise. Its not very Christian-like Scrump.




And here come the Candace proxies...


Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Good Scrump, because I cannot think of anything more insulting than being compared to Candace as a proxie or otherwise. Its not very Christian-like Scrump. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Lolwut? it's Salt&Light... remember me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099




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United States 7/17/2011 1:33 AM Hi Scrump... :)



The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099

Quoting: TXGal4Truth hey TxGal... it's Salt&Light... remember me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099





I do Chica...how ya been?



Hi Scrump... :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Hi! Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

United States 7/17/2011 1:38 AM I do Chica...how ya been? Quoting: TXGal4Truth I've been great. Thanks! and you? Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/17/2011 1:38 AM There is a lot of logic in it. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Yeah, Sci-Fi is like that Mr. Spock... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Sci Fi taught you ones a lot about the universe you know. Star Trek in particular, and go back to Bewitched if you are old enough to remember it. Star Wars, not too bad........ Quoting: Nobody in Particular




Sell your channeled lies somewhere else toots. You are no longer in control of your own vehicle, and the evil entities which infest you will take you with them alright. You will not like your new home. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/17/2011 1:40 AM Drink another, and try again. Try reading this time... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Yeah I'll get right to that...


Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan You just lost it.



I do Chica...how ya been?




Quoting: TXGal4Truth I've been great. Thanks! and you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Why are you no longer a registered member? I clearly remember your av with the one white eye. :)



Yeah I'll get right to that...


Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan You just lost it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455




I'll make sure to consult AC #1470455 about matters 'Christian-like' in the future. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470615

United States 7/17/2011 1:43 AM pulling an all nighter huh candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470615 One who sees...

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan looks like she's washed up for tonight.. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

United States 7/17/2011 1:44 AM I do Chica...how ya been? Quoting: TXGal4Truth I've been great. Thanks! and you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Why are you no longer a registered member? I clearly remember your av with the one white eye. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth was being stalked and abused by a proxie jumping psycho and the mods couldn't seem to do anything about it at the time.


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7/17/2011 1:46 AM

I do Chica...how ya been? Quoting: TXGal4Truth I've been great. Thanks! and you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Why are you no longer a registered member? I clearly remember your av with the one white eye. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth was being stalked and abused by a proxie jumping psycho and the mods couldn't seem to do anything about it at the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Story of my life girl. Don't let that shit get to you. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

United States 7/17/2011 1:48 AM I've been great. Thanks! and you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Why are you no longer a registered member? I clearly remember your av with the one white eye. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth was being stalked and abused by a proxie jumping psycho and the mods couldn't seem to do anything about it at the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Story of my life girl. Don't let that shit get to you. Quoting: TXGal4Truth i don't let it get to me, i got thick skin for GLP. this was different. it got really bad... i mean real bad. frighteningly bad....LOL




Why are you no longer a registered member? I clearly remember your av with the one white eye. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth was being stalked and abused by a proxie jumping psycho and the mods couldn't seem to do anything about it at the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Story of my life girl. Don't let that shit get to you. Quoting: TXGal4Truth i don't let it get to me, i got thick skin for GLP. this was different. it got really bad... i mean real bad. frighteningly bad....LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Yeah I know what you mean. I had one member take a pic from my FB, edit it and use it as her

AV. This chick is sick and she still posts here. Like I said FIGHT IT!



pulling an all nighter huh candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470615






One who sees...

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan looks like she's washed up for tonight.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470615 Too easy. ;) E1even - E1even Offer Upgrade User ID: 1465683

United States 7/17/2011 2:04 AM Hahahahaha..... This is a Beautiful post !!! You know why ?? God wants you to believe and fight for THE WORD !!! Listen.... If you have a FAITH in something HOLY and you worship Good VS. EVIL That's all that the Creator wants !!! Hahahahaha.... It IS THAT SIMPLE !!! God smiles on debate in His name ( no matter what you call him ) Well except the devil of coarse !!! Look !!! The church(es) will NEVER tell you the Truth ..... But ALL PATHS LEAD TO GOD !!!




Even if you believe in Aliens !!! Hahahahaha !!!! ( You must have righteous Faith ) to reap the reward at the end !!! YOU MUST BELIEVE TO ASCEND !! Or a living Hell awaits you in the Flesh if left behind, then you die and your soul belongs to the devil for his bidding !!!! At least this is an argument of " which religion is better !!! Yes Beautiful !!!! I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ , this is what makes sense to me !!! God Bless you all , whom ever you pray to !!! Anonymous Coward User ID: 1470455

United States 7/17/2011 2:08 AM Good Scrump, because I cannot think of anything more insulting than being compared to Candace as a proxie or otherwise. Its not very Christian-like Scrump. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Lolwut? it's Salt&Light... remember me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099

Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan You just lost it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455


I'll make sure to consult AC #1470455 about matters 'Christian-like' in the future. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan So its common for you to falsely accuse someone of being a Candace proxie? Its insulting. You lost any respect that i had for you, which is saying a lot. Maybe you should sober up a little, yes?



The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099 Exactly Amen to the word of the Lord. Quoting: TrumpetBlast




this spamming toad banned me and has a list of about 30 foes lol you mad or sumthin' Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471071

Italy 7/17/2011 4:09 AM But the book was gotten through " channeling " . That is WITCHCRAFT . It was gotten by occult means consulting spirits. This is not acceptable to YHWH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular How many demons do you host Candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 exactly none. You ones don't even know what a demon is either, that is a term of those who are still stuck in a the mediocre superstitions of religion. And since the bestowal of the SPIRIT OF TRUTH unsavory ones can longer possess people. That you believe so is a lie. they can mind fuck with people but not possess them and they are "demons" in the first place. Dark beings are dark beings, period. Most of what is considered demonic possession is mental illness. To you witchcraft folks, JESUS******************. PONDER that ONE. He healed the sick, et all, remember? And he did a great more than that, in mental work on this planet. People that do not understand god are naturally superstitious and thus prey for those who would use them. Perhaps a study of the UB would move some of you past that stuff. Quoting: Nobody in Particular NO WAY CANDACE! Jesus healed through the Holy Spirit! Witches use the power of Satan to make their spells work. There is no such thing as a "good witch"--they get their power from the same place as the "bad witches." It is hard for me not to get angry when I read such horrendous lies being said. But at the same time I am sorry you are so deceived. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471071

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7/17/2011 4:12 AM New agers claim to have received chanelled info, I think it's all bullshit, they just recycled the old esoteric secrets from egypt, mesopotamia, india and mesoamerica to create some product to sell. it's all big business, based on a lot of lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312616 Yea that uranthia book and the ekart toll books are the primary sellers for the NWO RELIGON coming to a theater near you soon . It is all just a remix of the old pagan earth worship / wicca / hindu beliefs . Just repackaged for the masses . I believe that this is the religion that will be the main before the end comes , it will be the religion of the tribulation when the christianity is stomped out . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 In defense of Eckhart Tolle, I will say that his writing ability is far superior to whomever wrote the Urantia Book. I read his book "Power of Now" and one can learn a few important things from it. It is basically Buddhism repackaged for modern times, but without the hokey religious rituals and all the esoteric crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 If the NWO wanted the UB out there, they would PUSH it, there is exactly no religion in it, other than a discussion of religions. The UB was given thru a sleeping prophet in a manner similar to Edgar Cayce. There is NO ONE AUTHOR of it. There are many coming thru in the UB. It has no single author. Quoting: Nobody in Particular They don't have to push it. They know the new agers will search crap out and they will believe it. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471071

Italy 7/17/2011 4:15 AM Actually the 3 major religions of this planet all stem from 1 source. muslim ,christian,jewish all have abraham as their father and origin of the faith . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Don't you think that is really sad? Abraham, a guy who nearly murdered his own son because he "heard" a voice from God in his head. If Abraham is a role model for morality, then our planet is truly fucked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Actually, the story of Abraham and his son is a big ol foreshadowing/analogy of Yahshua. I forget the specifics (I have a horrible memory) I will look it up.



Italy 7/17/2011 9:33 AM Ask yourself this. If the purpose is to present, to defend and to spread Truth (mandatory uppercase), why fill the book with so many errors and - to be generous - bad approzimations? if you want exmaples, start with [link to www.skepdic.com] or google "urantia errors" or something similar. Just to give the most elementary example, the numbers in Urantia do no make sense; if is impossible to map the urantia units of aggregation to known galaxies or clsuters, either too few or too many. The origin is always the same, plain and simple ignorance of many things of the real world by many spiritually inclined people. Take what Candace says of "our Sun rotating around Alcyones", which is nonsense - it cames from a psychological joke by an Australian on UFO nuts, later known as the photon belt fable. Not worse than "the Earth stopping rotation" due to the magnetic pole shift: tha latter can happen, the former NOT, or Jupiter becoming a Sun, which is phisically impossible. (:-DeeZe User ID: 1467829

United States 7/17/2011 10:00 AM Demons can be subtle Might even be "feel-good"... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1417728 Let me explain the word "demon." it is NOT real. it is a thought form. it is the result of the imaginings of man and it is a 3d mind movie. It has no consciousness of its self. yet it can per be perceived by self and others. It's a mind construct. it has no power except that which you give unto it. And the mind of this world, the total is full of negative thought forms. Create positive ones instead and raise up the mind of earth, this rids the planet of the very negative realms in which the dark thought form exists. There are great ones who come to do nothing more in fact than this, think the world a better place and many of you who are light workers are here to do this plus demonstrate rightful living. During the magnetic Pole reversal, when the rotation of the earth stops, the change of gravitational fields allows these demonic forms to leave the planet, where they are "rounded up" and destroyed, as the planet IS heavily infected with them. Should you come across a "demon" in your dreams, YOU HAVE the POWER IN THE NAME of JESUS to uncreate it by the way dear ones. SPELLS used by black magicians create these demons which infect the person they are created to harm, like a virus in a way. They can literally made ones ill and die. You are NOT to partake of these creations but understand every time you HATE someone and intentionally have bad thoughts of their destruction or some other loss to them, such as maybe you wish them fired, you have just created a destructive thought form.

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Now this world is a prison ward for dark people. MIND is very powerful, and ones early discover this, with or without knowing it. You are KEPT on worlds like this until you learn to CREATE LOVE and LOVE THOUGHT FORMS. For you can send a LOVE THOUGHT FORM, called a nice little fairy, or whatever, that can heal. Or you can send a demon thought form that can harm. You are not let off worlds like this one until you know the difference. And the lower astral IS polluted again with these . And they are of your very own creation people. Ponder it. Create in the light instead. In fact dear light workers with your help PLUS that os those on craft etc, and the wave improving the matter and the like, demons are being released that are stored in the depths of the earth. I had one come up thru my own house a few months ago now. I just called it the screaming banshee. some of you are familiar with the word banshee, that is what the "demon" is. Demons do not possess, they are not conscious enough to do that. They are just "computer programs" is you will. there is great teaching that can be done around computer concepts. You might call them a computer virus as an analogy. Jesus didn't have computers to use for analogy back then. In fact beloveds when man proves his mind under control you will have living thinking computers. But back to my screaming banshee. I was cooking at my stove. which like many stoves has a counter next to it, mine has one of both sides. suddently there was intense vibration or shaking I heard but did not see, next to the stove. Initially, I thought perhaps the pot of water had a loose lid and was beginning to boil, although this was not like that, but I saw nothing else to blame it on. It was NOT the pot. It continued, this loud vibrating noise, yet nothing on the counter was moving at all. the noise was actually more in the air btween the counter and the cupboard above. All of a sudden whatever was vibrating, let out a screech, sort of like a smoke detector going off, but there is no smoke detector there, but that was the only sound I could relate it too. In a short time both the shaking and the screaming stopped. It took me some time to figure it out actually. I went out to see if something maybe got into the stove vent, but the noise and vibrating was NOT from the stove vent. But the stove vent was too close to the roof to let anything in there that could scream, or vibrate. This was NOT wind in that, the noise was NOT in the stove went. It was not the fan in the stove vent. It was a screaming banshee coming up from somewhere deep under neath. Since I live on a trash dump, one could consider maybe something long buried???? I don't know, but anyway, it was free and it left. VOO DOO folks know how to do this. And maybe even this was the creation of a voo doo expert because I have do have enemies. Who knows, but Christ Michael got a laugh out of the story anyway and accepted "screaming banshee" as the cause. I hope this writing puts to rest something of demons. Demons are not dark spirits. They are dark thought forms or mind creations. Dark spirits are entities. If you feel a thought form that well feels good and lovely, somebody just sent you a nice little fairy, ok. If it's harmful and ugly, someone has sent a demon and sadly light workers can be plagued with them. And dark invisible entities as masters at creating demons. This is why you call them demonic in fact. Light workers create nice little fairies instead of demons. That is how someone at great distance can send you a HUG. And a hug does "feel good." send lots of nice little fairies to the ones you love and send them to one who don't love you too. :its all good: And now I am editing this because Rider below here has used this symbol of love at the end of his


post. Now some of you seeing that, me included felt that "love". Well those little hearts used by Rider did in fact create a nice little fairy which you felt, did it not? so here's a kiss to all of you, this thread has been wondrous tonight, it's my bed time and I am going to bed.

:big flowers: Quoting: Nobody in Particular Excellent post Candace!! Sending much LOVE to all!!

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United States 7/17/2011 10:26 AM Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 It's not violent and immoral like the Bible. I guess if you like violence and skewed ethics and schizophrenic/conflicting controlling 'laws', then the Bible is more your cup of tea.

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The best thing for humanity for a new era is the King James Bible and the New Jerusalem calendar system to unite all of the nations [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] Mon Jun 4/30/11



The best thing for humanity for a new era is the King James Bible and the New Jerusalem calendar system to unite all of the nations [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] Mon Jun 4/30/11 Quoting: new JEruSalem rUSs Russ, this as I keep saying, while I admire your wishing to envision something, is immature and incomplete. One does not go uniting many different peoples under a calendar that most of them would never accept, particularly those not aligned with Zionism, and the Islamics are very against the Zionism. They will never support something from folks that have created great evil against them. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/17/2011 11:13 AM



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There is a lot of logic in it. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Yeah, Sci-Fi is like that Mr. Spock... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Sci Fi taught you ones a lot about the universe you know. Star Trek in particular, and go back to Bewitched if you are old enough to remember it. Star Wars, not too bad........ Quoting: Nobody in Particular Sell your channeled lies somewhere else toots. You are no longer in control of your own vehicle, and the evil entities which infest you will take you with them alright. You will not like your new home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 Well interesting again, the shills coming this way. The UB is valid, and as I said given thru a sleeping prophet. It's amazing how people will love Edgar Cayce and deny the UB and also love Dolores Cannon, similar methods all of them. The UB must just be too complex for you to read? so it's easier to say it's evil? Some do that. I have a lovely home on Paradise. It would not be possible at this point to move backwards. My temporary home will continue to be on this planet for about 1000 years, that is why I committed to and it won't be by the method of rebirthing. My organization will provide that support system which will enable the inhabitants of this world, the good guys, because the bad guys are moving, to build a properly cosmic god knowing civilization. Did you intend to stay around to participate or are you going to be moving?


And they are terribly worried about the UB, the PJ's, my organization and the like. thus the work against it here, by convincing some that God's methods are "evil." Until you READ that whole book, and ponder at least the easier parts of it, you can make no statement against it.



hardly thru WITCHCRAFT, where are your brains people? The dark ones deliberately have taught this so you would REJECT the truth, as it is given. These folks are spirit beings who gave it. They converse on the MENTAL Level. they do NOT have mouths that speak English. They are not physical at all. In the realms above this lowly planet, and it was true on this planet once, communications are primarily mind to mind. And it works as well and in fact better than spoken words. That is behind your story of the tower of babel. You ones had the ability of telepathy removed, and thus you babel away in earth languages. Ponder it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular How many demons do you host Candace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470455 exactly none. You ones don't even know what a demon is either, that is a term of those who are still stuck in a the mediocre superstitions of religion. And since the bestowal of the SPIRIT OF TRUTH unsavory ones can longer possess people. That you believe so is a lie. they can mind fuck




with people but not possess them and they are "demons" in the first place. Dark beings are dark beings, period. Most of what is considered demonic possession is mental illness. To you witchcraft folks, JESUS******************. PONDER that ONE. He healed the sick, et all, remember? And he did a great more than that, in mental work on this planet. People that do not understand god are naturally superstitious and thus prey for those who would use them. Perhaps a study of the UB would move some of you past that stuff. Quoting: Nobody in Particular NO WAY CANDACE! Jesus healed through the Holy Spirit! Witches use the power of Satan to make their spells work. There is no such thing as a "good witch"--they get their power from the same place as the "bad witches." It is hard for me not to get angry when I read such horrendous lies being said. But at the same time I am sorry you are so deceived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471071 no Jesus did not heal thru the holy spirit. He used his own mind to heal. You ones don't have a single clue as to what the Holy Spirit is. In fact the term is used for 3 totally different concepts and I am working on a nice piece about that which will get posted on my website and on glp in several places. Holy spirit #1 is the Father Fragment within you. It is a consultant to you. it is a piece of the fathers mind with information stored on Photons. Animal mind which most people still have some of on this planet, information you have come across is stored on electrons. Photons can only store truth. So if Holy spirit #1 is a Piece of the FAther's mind, how could it create the embryo that became the body of Jesus? It can't. Now Michael of Nebadon, while sharing a form with Esu, DID have a Father Fragment until the beginning of his ministry, but it was not needed after his ministry began, so how could it have been the father of the body or done the healings? Holy Spirit #2, is the Spirit of Truth, which was bestowed on the planet, AFTER Michael of Nebadon left the incarnation on the day of the crucifixion. He bestowed the Spirit of Truth on Pentacost, which was the spirit he promised to send. It is actually a gift of Michael and Nebadonia, and its a Library of Truth. Also on photons, which is why the big glow on Pentacost. So if that wasn't bestowed yet, how did "Jesus" heal with it? And that begs another question, if the spirit of truth, which you ones call the holy spirit was not bestowed until Pentecost, How did it become the Father of the embryo? And since it's a Library, it doesn't have DNA or a penis. Holy Spirit #3. Mother Goddess of Nebadon, Nebadonia. She is a daughter of the Infinite Spirit of the Trinity you ones don't understand. Also there is GAIA, the Mother Spirit of Earth, who is a daughter of Nebadonia. She doesn't have a penis either to create the embryo that was the body of Jesus. So again, how did jesus heal thru the "holy spirit"? He could not have. Jesus healed using his MIND. And also there were a lot of helpers from "heaven" when he healed masses of people, who went about the crowds healing people. In this day and age, Jesus is rarely doing the healing, although returned. Neighther is the any of the Holy spirits above. There are hospital craft here, both from Heaven, and from other advanced planets do works of this sort.


Some of you have heard of Arch Angel Raphael, known as the healing angel in Catholicism and New age. He runs several hospital craft and has many helpers. I have benefited from his help, he has done several stem cell transplants to me, in particular, my pituitary gland was DEAD and he built me a new one. If I had had not known what was going on, I was have considered my self the beneficiary of a miracle. Rather I was the beneficiary of advanced medicine. Now you ones have some reason right there to grow up what your concept of God is, and come out of your silly pre school "beliefs" which are in fact LIES.

I have presented TRUTH in this piece on what you ones think the 'holy spirit" of the Trinity is, and it's up to YOU to decide what to do with it. But it did NOT father the embryo, nor is healing done thru the Holy spirit by jesus or anybody else, Either very good medicine is used, or mind is used. Understand your own mind is necessary to any healing of you, because if you do not want it, all the great medicine in the world an accomplish nothing if rejected by you, and over time as you grow your minds in knowledge you will learn yourself to heal self and others using your mind. For as Jesus said, like he is, so to can you become. Esu said that one of that partnership of Michael of Nebadon and Esu Immanuel. It is time again for you ones to grow in your knowledge of how God works and that which you often label "god" or Jesus is your guardian angels, and other angelics involved with you. There were many ET's from Orion who played controlling God's on this planet. They have been removed but you still follow some of them. The stories in the old testament of sacrificing animals to God were in fact that a group of negative ET's came down, and the people prepared barbecues for them. You see, higher ETS do not eat meat. Ponder that. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375359

Canada 7/17/2011 1:33 PM One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097


Including X-tianity!!! Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375359

Canada 7/17/2011 1:36 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 "Master" Spirits? Then, exactly how many "slave" spirits are there? Shield User ID: 1470364

United States 7/17/2011 1:48 PM Nope. It is not possible to reason with un reasonable people. Quoting: Shield 1461270 Nice cop-out. Why am I not surprised? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 I think most of the posts in this thread proved my point.

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United States 7/17/2011 1:51 PM For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 "Master" Spirits? Then, exactly how many "slave" spirits are there? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375359




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For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: "(184.1) 16:0.1 THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 "Master" Spirits? Then, exactly how many "slave" spirits are there? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375359 the master spirits of the 7 superuniverses are the TOTAL MIND of those Superuniverses, besides being a personality themselves. They have names and probably better terms to call them by, but we are dealing here with an inferior English language. MASTER does not mean slave master ever spiritually. It generally means a level of learning, such as the Ascended masters, and dear ones, it is YOUR GOAL to become ASCENDED Masters if you are not already, if you are an ascendant being. Fusion with your Father Fragment which usually occurs when a person has reached 6 to 7 dimensional consciousness makes you an ascended master. You are making yourself look silly here AC 5359. I understand ignorance on this planet regards God because of the Lucifer Rebellion, but the above is plain silly, as to a statement and implies you are here to turn people off




to the subject. Only you know your motive, but it sure looks like shilling to me. Master can mean leader, teacher, status of being etc. Since you have a MIND and are from some portion of Superuniverse #7, Orvonton, your evolutionary mind filtered down thru the INFINITE SPIRIT of the Trinity, thru the master Spirit #7 who goes by Siraya here on earth. he is both a personality and a massive mind., encompassing all of Orvonton Well I decided to browse in the UB. Paper 16 about the Master Spirits. It is not that hard to read. however, regards the portion of urantia, the 7th master spirit (Siraya) IS involved as a PERSON, as an administrator and adviser, here with the decisions being made for this sad work of Michael of Nebadon's bestowal. Because what goes on this planet, being a prison ward, also affects other areas of the Lucifer REbellion and beyond. here we go: 6. The Cosmic Mind (191.4) 16:6.1 The Master Spirits are the sevenfold source of the cosmic mind, the intellectual potential of the grand universe. This cosmic mind is a subabsolute manifestation of the mind of the Third Source and Center and, in certain ways, is functionally related to the mind of the evolving Supreme Being. (191.5) 16:6.2 On a world like Urantia we do not encounter the direct influence of the Seven Master Spirits in the affairs of the human races. You live under the immediate influence of the Creative Spirit of Nebadon. Nevertheless these same Master Spirits dominate the basic reactions of all creature mind because they are the actual sources of the intellectual and spiritual potentials which have been specialized in the local universes for function in the lives of those individuals who inhabit the evolutionary worlds of time and space. (191.6) 16:6.3 The fact of the cosmic mind explains the kinship of various types of human and superhuman minds. Not only are kindred spirits attracted to each other, but kindred minds are also very fraternal and inclined towards co-operation the one with the other. Human minds are sometimes observed to be running in channels of astonishing similarity and inexplicable agreement. (191.7) 16:6.4 There exists in all personality associations of the cosmic mind a quality which might be denominated the “reality response.” It is this universal cosmic endowment of will creatures which saves them from becoming helpless victims of the implied a priori assumptions of science, philosophy, and religion. This reality sensitivity of the cosmic mind responds to certain phases of reality just as energy-material responds to gravity. It would be still more correct to say that these supermaterial realities so respond to the mind of the cosmos. (192.1) 16:6.5 The cosmic mind unfailingly responds (recognizes response) on three levels of universe reality. These responses are self-evident to clear-reasoning and deep-thinking minds. These levels of reality are: (192.2) 16:6.6 1. Causation — the reality domain of the physical senses, the scientific realms of logical uniformity, the differentiation of the factual and the nonfactual, reflective conclusions based on cosmic response. This is the mathematical form of the cosmic discrimination. (192.3) 16:6.7 2. Duty — the reality domain of morals in the philosophic realm, the arena of reason, the recognition of relative right and wrong. This is the judicial form of the cosmic discrimination.


(192.4) 16:6.8 3. Worship — the spiritual domain of the reality of religious experience, the personal realization of divine fellowship, the recognition of spirit values, the assurance of eternal survival, the ascent from the status of servants of God to the joy and liberty of the sons of God. This is the highest insight of the cosmic mind, the reverential and worshipful form of the cosmic discrimination. (192.5) 16:6.9 These scientific, moral, and spiritual insights, these cosmic responses, are innate in the cosmic mind, which endows all will creatures. The experience of living never fails to develop these three cosmic intuitions; they are constitutive in the self-consciousness of reflective thinking. But it is sad to record that so few persons on Urantia take delight in cultivating these qualities of courageous and independent cosmic thinking. (192.6) 16:6.10 In the local universe mind bestowals, these three insights of the cosmic mind constitute the a priori assumptions which make it possible for man to function as a rational and self-conscious personality in the realms of science, philosophy, and religion. Stated otherwise, the recognition of the reality of these three manifestations of the Infinite is by a cosmic technique of self-revelation. Matter-energy is recognized by the mathematical logic of the senses; mind-reason intuitively knows its moral duty; spirit-faith (worship) is the religion of the reality of spiritual experience. These three basic factors in reflective thinking may be unified and co-ordinated in personality development, or they may become disproportionate and virtually unrelated in their respective functions. But when they become unified, they produce a strong character consisting in the correlation of a factual science, a moral philosophy, and a genuine religious experience. And it is these three cosmic intuitions that give objective validity, reality, to man’s experience in and with things, meanings, and values. (192.7) 16:6.11 It is the purpose of education to develop and sharpen these innate endowments of the human mind; of civilization to express them; of life experience to realize them; of religion to ennoble them; and of personality to unify them. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/17/2011 3:12 PM Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099

United States 7/17/2011 3:00 PM There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Deuteronomy 18:10 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:13-14 Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.



Leviticus 19:31 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. Luke 15:10 "Secret knowledge" that God has not revealed to us about the universe, the future, etc. is sometimes given to people by demons. It sometimes contains some accurate information, but also is often wrong and intentionally misleading. Modern examples of misleading information revealed by demons include the Urantia book.... [link to www.creationists.org]

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There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Deuteronomy 18:10 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:13-14 Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God. Leviticus 19:31 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19

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Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. Luke 15:10 "Secret knowledge" that God has not revealed to us about the universe, the future, etc. is sometimes given to people by demons. It sometimes contains some accurate information, but also is often wrong and intentionally misleading. Modern examples of misleading information revealed by demons include the Urantia book.... [link to www.creationists.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313099


United States 7/17/2011 4:31 PM I had someone trying to convince me the book was true because it was in the non-fiction library section but I also pointed out so was the bible.



well here is some more of Paper 16, from which OP took the FIRST paragraph. I posted the section #6 on cosmic mind which IS readable to anyone with a reasonable command of English. On looking further, here is the next section #7 which is also readable and easily pondered. ENJOY before you falsely judge it. 7. Morals, Virtue, and Personality (192.8) 16:7.1 Intelligence alone cannot explain the moral nature. Morality, virtue, is indigenous to human personality. Moral intuition, the realization of duty, is a component of human mind

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endowment and is associated with the other inalienables of human nature: scientific curiosity and spiritual insight. Man’s mentality far transcends that of his animal cousins, but it is his moral and religious natures that especially distinguish him from the animal world. (193.1) 16:7.2 The selective response of an animal is limited to the motor level of behavior. The supposed insight of the higher animals is on a motor level and usually appears only after the experience of motor trial and error. Man is able to exercise scientific, moral, and spiritual insight prior to all exploration or experimentation. (193.2) 16:7.3 Only a personality can know what it is doing before it does it; only personalities possess insight in advance of experience. A personality can look before it leaps and can therefore learn from looking as well as from leaping. A nonpersonal animal ordinarily learns only by leaping. (193.3) 16:7.4 As a result of experience an animal becomes able to examine the different ways of attaining a goal and to select an approach based on accumulated experience. But a personality can also examine the goal itself and pass judgment on its worth-whileness, its value. Intelligence alone can discriminate as to the best means of attaining indiscriminate ends, but a moral being possesses an insight which enables him to discriminate between ends as well as between means. And a moral being in choosing virtue is nonetheless intelligent. He knows what he is doing, why he is doing it, where he is going, and how he will get there. (193.4) 16:7.5 When man fails to discriminate the ends of his mortal striving, he finds himself functioning on the animal level of existence. He has failed to avail himself of the superior advantages of that material acumen, moral discrimination, and spiritual insight which are an integral part of his cosmic-mind endowment as a personal being. (193.5) 16:7.6 Virtue is righteousness — conformity with the cosmos. To name virtues is not to define them, but to live them is to know them. Virtue is not mere knowledge nor yet wisdom but rather the reality of progressive experience in the attainment of ascending levels of cosmic achievement. In the day-by-day life of mortal man, virtue is realized by the consistent choosing of good rather than evil, and such choosing ability is evidence of the possession of a moral nature. (193.6) 16:7.7 Man’s choosing between good and evil is influenced, not only by the keenness of his moral nature, but also by such influences as ignorance, immaturity, and delusion. A sense of proportion is also concerned in the exercise of virtue because evil may be perpetrated when the lesser is chosen in the place of the greater as a result of distortion or deception. The art of relative estimation or comparative measurement enters into the practice of the virtues of the moral realm. (193.7) 16:7.8 Man’s moral nature would be impotent without the art of measurement, the discrimination embodied in his ability to scrutinize meanings. Likewise would moral choosing be futile without that cosmic insight which yields the consciousness of spiritual values. From the standpoint of intelligence, man ascends to the level of a moral being because he is endowed with personality. (193.8) 16:7.9 Morality can never be advanced by law or by force. It is a personal and freewill matter and must be disseminated by the contagion of the contact of morally fragrant persons with those who are less morally responsive, but who are also in some measure desirous of doing the Father’s will. (193.9) 16:7.10 Moral acts are those human performances which are characterized by the highest intelligence, directed by selective discrimination in the choice of superior ends as well as in the selection of moral means to attain these ends. Such conduct is virtuous. Supreme virtue, then, is wholeheartedly to choose to do the will of the Father in heaven.


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Continuing for readers and for OP. More of paper 16. I have added commentary, while I was preparing this for the UB thread. Continuing Paper 16, on the Master Spirits. This is a wondrous paper. It has been a joy to me to

revisit it since I posted on the thread mentioned above. Continue to enjoy. Urantia is the official name in the universe registries of our planet, by the way. 8. Urantia Personality (194.1) 16:8.1 The Universal Father bestows personality upon numerous orders of beings as they function on diverse levels of universe actuality. Urantia human beings are endowed with personality of the finite-mortal type, functioning on the level of the ascending sons of God. (194.2) 16:8.2 Though we can hardly undertake to define personality, we may attempt to narrate our understanding of the known factors which go to make up the ensemble of material, mental, and spiritual energies whose interassociation constitutes the mechanism wherein and whereon and wherewith the Universal Father causes his bestowed personality to function. (Candace: a reminder that the biggy contribution of the Universal Father, FIRST SOURCE or Source to some of you, IS PERSONALITY. ) (194.3) 16:8.3 Personality is a unique endowment of original nature whose existence is independent of, and antecedent to, the bestowal of the Thought Adjuster. Nevertheless, the presence of the Adjuster does augment the qualitative manifestation of personality. Thought Adjusters, when they come forth from the Father, are identical in nature, but personality is diverse, original, and exclusive; and the manifestation of personality is further conditioned and qualified by the nature and qualities of the associated energies of a material, mindal, and spiritual nature which constitute the organismal vehicle for personality manifestation. (194.4) 16:8.4 Personalities may be similar, but they are never the same. Persons of a given series, type, order, or pattern may and do resemble one another, but they are never identical. Personality is that feature of an individual which we know, and which enables us to identify such a being at some future time regardless of the nature and extent of changes in form, mind, or spirit status. Personality is that part of any individual which enables us to recognize and





positively identify that person as the one we have previously known, no matter how much he may have changed because of the modification of the vehicle of expression and manifestation of his personality. (Candace: Beloveds this is WHY when you run into some people, you recognize them as an old soul from a previous encounter somewhere in time. many of us have found others we know from elsewhere. Let you intuition lead you on this one, for it is SO. We sometimes call these ones "soul mates." I have met several folks on the internet since I became public with AH, that I know I know them from someplace! There is such resonance, and a great joy to me in this work when it happens. ) (194.5) 16:8.5 Creature personality is distinguished by two self-manifesting and characteristic phenomena of mortal reactive behavior: self-consciousness and associated relative free will. (194.6) 16:8.6 Self-consciousness consists in intellectual awareness of personality actuality; it includes the ability to recognize the reality of other personalities. It indicates capacity for individualized experience in and with cosmic realities, equivalating to the attainment of identity status in the personality relationships of the universe. Self-consciousness connotes recognition of the actuality of mind ministration and the realization of relative independence of creative and determinative free will. (194.7) 16:8.7 The relative free will which characterizes the self-consciousness of human personality is involved in: (194.8) 16:8.8 1. Moral decision, highest wisdom. (194.9) 16:8.9 2. Spiritual choice, truth discernment. (194.10) 16:8.10 3. Unselfish love, brotherhood service. (194.11) 16:8.11 4. Purposeful co-operation, group loyalty. (194.12) 16:8.12 5. Cosmic insight, the grasp of universe meanings. (194.13) 16:8.13 6. Personality dedication, wholehearted devotion to doing the Father’s will. (195.1) 16:8.14 7. Worship, the sincere pursuit of divine values and the wholehearted love of the divine Value-Giver. (195.2) 16:8.15 The Urantia type of human personality may be viewed as functioning in a physical mechanism consisting of the planetary modification of the Nebadon type of organism belonging to the electrochemical order of life activation and endowed with the Nebadon order of the Orvonton series of the cosmic mind of parental reproductive pattern. The bestowal of the divine gift of personality upon such a mind-endowed mortal mechanism confers the dignity of cosmic citizenship and enables such a mortal creature forthwith to become reactive to the constitutive recognition of the three basic mind realities of the cosmos: (195.3) 16:8.16 1. The mathematical or logical recognition of the uniformity of physical causation. (195.4) 16:8.17 2. The reasoned recognition of the obligation of moral conduct. (195.5) 16:8.18 3. The faith-grasp of the fellowship worship of Deity, associated with the loving service of humanity. (195.6) 16:8.19 The full function of such a personality endowment is the beginning realization of Deity kinship. Such a selfhood, indwelt by a prepersonal fragment of God the Father, is in truth and in fact a spiritual son of God. Such a creature not only discloses capacity for the reception of the gift of the divine presence but also exhibits reactive response to the personality-gravity circuit of the Paradise Father of all personalities. Candace: Dear ones, This was a teaching of Michael of Nebadon when he was here that has been negated in christianity at least. I cannot speak for Islam and other religions. He taught that his


FATHER WAS ALSO YOUR FATHER, and YOU ARE A SON OF THAT SAME FATHER. How sad that this is negated and "Jesus" as made into the one and only Son of God. If you have personality, and the ability to reason, dream, desire you are in fact a Son of that very Same FATHER, as is Michael of Nebadon. This MAKES Michael of Nebadon YOUR BROTHER, besides his being Father of Nebadon. And he is returned and he loves you all both with Fatherly Love and Brotherly Love. And I remind you, that while a Bestowal Son of Avonal or Michael Order, will visit all advancing planets in time, he will also return when and if that Planet enters Light and life for a short visit of celebration. But here on Earth, we have the return of Michael of Nebadon ( in 1954 and continuing), and we are NOT even close yet to Light and LIfe. Beloveds, this is UNIQUE as this has NEVER been done before, a Creator Son has never returned as a BROTHER to see his bestowal planet thru the trials coming up, personally. And he will remain here at least until we enter Light and Life. And perhaps longer. He simply says, as long as he is needed. THIS IS NEW and THIS PLANET is specially BLESSED and you live in an exciting time to be here, whether you are an evolving soul on this world, one of the crowd that followed Lucifer, or you are here for advanced service and learning. We are treading NEW GROUND quite litterally. TAKE GREAT INTEREST in this, for you have such special opportunity and many of you don't know that!

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7/17/2011 6:33 PM Yep, it's called " Sophism ". Eloquently worded bullshit Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471795

United States 7/17/2011 6:40 PM Urantia Book is an interesting read that is supportive of Christianity. ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622


I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Yeah, I feel exactly the same way OP! I don't see how anyone can get through the whole book.......? and yes, I could only get through the first three chapters.......so I guess my opinion doesn't count, since I haven't read the entire book! :( Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 7/17/2011 6:51 PM ATONTRUTH User ID: 1471817

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7/17/2011 6:59 PM I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622


Yeah, I feel exactly the same way OP! I don't see how anyone can get through the whole book.......? and yes, I could only get through the first three chapters.......so I guess my opinion doesn't count, since I haven't read the entire book! :( Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Wait a minute, I once had a glass of "sour milk"........and I didn't have to drink the whole classfull in order to discover that the milk was sour.........it only took me a single swig!! lol Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 7/17/2011 7:03 PM



I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits







that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471809

United States 7/17/2011 7:04 PM I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 Quote: "At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases."


Can you give us any specific examples that are not subjective, or due to a simple lack of comprehension? ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622


I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) ATONTRUTH User ID: 1471817

United States 7/17/2011 7:07 PM I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan .




Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Agreed!



I was born in a small island in the carribean..i have been to witches houses. The people who practice voodoo use the same methods that was used to get your book and YAHWEH prohibits that . What you dont seem to get your head around is that it is all one pie. Some slices say wicca..some say luciferanism..some say mason...some say urantia..some say new age BUT IT IS ONE PIE and you are being instructed by satan . Channeling familiar spirits is a no no and anything that comes out of it is from the great adversary... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth




Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622


Quote: "At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases." Can you give us any specific examples that are not subjective, or due to a simple lack of comprehension? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471809 If the scriptures are infallible, how do explain this old and well researched list of almost 200 contradictions? 1. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Solomon. Mt.1:6. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Nathan. Lk.3:31. 2. The announcement of the special birth came before conception. Lk.1:26-31. The announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21. 3. Jesus' parents were told of their son's future greatness. Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35. Jesus' parents knew nothing of their son's potential. Lk.2:48-50. 4. The angel told Joseph. Mt.1:20. The angel told Mary. Lk.1:28. 5. There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17. There were 43 generations from David to Jesus. Lk.3:23-31. 6. Jacob was Joseph's father. Mt.1:16. Heli was Joseph's father. Lk.3:23. 7. He was to be called Emmanuel. Mt.1:23. He was called Jesus. Mt.1:25. 8. Joseph, Mary, and Jesus flee to Egypt while Herod slaughters all males under 2 years old. Mt.2:13-16. (Note: Jesus' cousin, John, was also under 2 and survived without having to flee.) Joseph, Mary, and Jesus did not flee to Egypt, but remained for temple rituals. No slaughter of infants is mentioned! Lk.2:21-39.




9. Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13. Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3. 10. The devil first took Jesus to the pinnacle, then to the mountain top. Mt.4:5-8. The devil first took Jesus to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle. Lk.4:5-9. 11. Satan tempted Jesus. Mt.4:1-10; Mk.1:13; Lk.4:1,2. Satan had no interest in Jesus. Jn.14:30. 12. The baptism of Jesus was with the "Holy Ghost". Mk.1:8; Jn.1:33. Fire was also added to the baptism. Mt.3:11; Lu.3:16. 13. John knew of Jesus before he baptized him. Mt.3:11-13; Jn.1:28,29. John knew nothing of Jesus at all. Mt.11:1-3. 14. Jesus begins his ministry after John's arrest. Mk.1:13,14. Jesus begins his ministry before John's arrest. Jn.3:22-24. 15. It is recorded that Jesus saw the spirit descending. Mt.3:16; Mk.1:10. It is recorded that John saw the spirit descending. Jn.1:32. 16. The heavenly voice addressed the gathering. Mt.3:17. The heavenly voice addressed Jesus. Mk.1:11; Lk.3:22. 17. Immediately after the baptism, Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:1,2; Mk.1:12,13. Three days after the baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana. Jn.2:1. 18. Jesus went to Bethphage and the Mt. of Olives, then left for Bethany. Mt.21:1,17. Jesus went to Bethphage and Bethany at the Mt. of Olives. Mk.11:1; Lk.19:29. Jesus went to Bethany and then Jerusalem. Jn.12:1,12. 19. Jesus and his disciples taught in Capernaum. Mk.1:20,21. Only Jesus taught in Capernaum. Lk.4:30,31. 20. Peter was chosen, with Andrew, by the Sea of Galilee. Mt.4:18-20; Mk.1:16-18. Peter was chosen, with James and John, by the lake of Gennesaret. Lk.5:2-11. Andrew chose Jesus and then got Peter to join. Jn.1:35-42. 21. Peter was to preach to the Jews. Mt.10:2,5,6; Gal.2:7. Peter was to preach to the Gentiles. Acts 15:7. 22. Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law after he cleansed the leper. Mt.8:1-15. Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law before he cleansed the leper. Mk.1:30-42; Lk.4:38 to 5:13. 23. Peter's mother-in-law was healed before Peter was called to be a disciple. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10. Peter's mother-in-law was healed after Peter was called to be a disciple. Mt.4:18,19; 8:14,15; Mk.1:16,17,30,31. 24. James and John were with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Mk.1:29-31. James and John were not with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10,11. 25. Lebbaeus (Thaddaeus) was the name of an apostle - but no Judas, brother of James. Mt. 10:3. Judas, the brother of James, was an apostle, but no Thaddaeus. Lk.6:16; Acts 1:13. 26. The centurion's servant was healed in between the cleansing of the leper and the healing of Peter's mother-in-law. Mt.8:2-15. The centurion's servant was healed after the cleansing of the leper and the healing of Peter's mother-in-law. Lu.4:38,39; 5:12,13; 7:1-10. 27. The people were not impressed with the feeding of the multitude. Mk.6:52. The people were very impressed with the feeding of the multitude. Jn.6:14. 28. After the feeding of the multitude, Jesus went to Gennesaret. Mk.6:53. After the feeding of the multitude, Jesus went to Capernaum. Jn.6:14-17. 29. A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God. Mk.1:23,24. Everyone who confesses that Jesus came in the flesh is of God. 1 Jn.4:2. 30. Jesus cursed the fig tree so that it would not bear fruit. Mt.21:19; Mk.11:14. It wasn't time for the fig tree to bear fruit. Mk.11:13. 31. The fig tree withers immediately, and the disciples are amazed. Mt.21:19,20.


The disciples first notice the withered tree the next day. Mk.11:20,21. 32. Jesus is the mediator of the "Father". 1 Tim.2:5; 1 Jn.2:1. Jesus sits on "his" right hand. Mk. 16:19. Jesus and the "Father" are one in the same. Jn.10:30. 33. There is one "God". 1 Tim.2:5; Jms.2:19. There are three. 1 Jn.5:7. 34. Jesus said to honor your father and mother. Mt.15:4; Mt.19:19; Mk.7:10; Mk.10:19; Lk.18:20. Jesus said that he came to set people against their parents. Mt.10:35-37; Lk.12:51-53; Lk.14:26. Jesus said to call no man father. Mt.23:9. 35. Jesus/God said, "You fool…". Lk.12:20; Mt.23:17. Paul calls people fools. 1 Cor.15:36. Call someone a fool and you go to hell. Mt.5:22. 36. Anger by itself is a sin. Mt.5:22. But not necessarily. Eph.4:26. 37. Ask and it shall be given. Seek and you will find. Knock and it will be opened to you. Mt.7:7,8; Lk.11:9,10. Ask and you shall be refused. Seek and you won't find. Knock and you will be refused entrance. Lk.13:24-27. 38. Do not judge. Mt.7:1,2. Unless it is necessary, of course. 1 Jn.4:1-3. 39. Jesus is thankful that some things are hidden. Mt.11:25; Mk.4:11,12. Jesus said that all things should be made known. Mk.4:22. 40. Jesus said that no sign would be given. Mk.8:12. Jesus said that no sign would be given except for that of Jonas. Mt.12:39; Lk.11:29. Jesus showed many signs. Jn.20:30; Acts 2:22. 41. Jesus stated that the law was until heaven and earth ended. Mt. 5:17-19. Jesus stated that the law was only until the time of John. Lk.16:16. 42. The "Sermon on the Mount" took place on the mountain. Mt.5:1. The "Sermon on the Mount" took place on a plain. Lu.6:17. 43. The "Lord's Prayer" was taught to many during the "Sermon on the Mount". Mt.6:9. The "Lord's Prayer" was taught only to the disciples at another time. Lu.11:1. 44. Jesus had his own house. Mk.2:15. Jesus did not have his own house. Lu.9:58. 45. Good works should be seen. Mt.5:16. Good works should not be seen. Mt.6:1-4. 46. Jesus said that Salvation was only for the Jews. Mt.15:24; Mt.10:5,6; Jn.4:22; Rom.11:26,27. Paul said that salvation was also for the Gentiles. Acts 13:47,48. 47. Repentance is necessary. Acts 3:19; Lu.3:3. Repentance is not necessary. Rom.11:29. 48. Non-believers obtain mercy. Rom.11:32. Only believers obtain mercy. Jn.3:36; Rom.14:23. Only baptized believers obtain mercy. Mk.16:16. Mercy cannot be predetermined. Rom.9:18. 49. All who call on the "Lord" will be saved. Rom.10:13; Acts 2:21. Only those predestined will be saved. Acts 13:48; Eph.1:4,5; 2 Thes.2:13; Acts 2:47. 50. Jesus said he would not cast aside any that come to him. Jn.6:37. Jesus said that many that come to him will be cast aside. Mt.7:21-23. 51. Salvation comes by faith and not works. Eph.2:8,9; Rom.11:6; Gal.2:16; Rom.3:28. Salvation comes by faith and works. Jms.2:14,17,20. 52. The righteous have eternal life. Mt.25:46. The righteous are barely saved. 1 Pet.4:18. There are no righteous. Rom.3:10. 53. Believe and be baptized to be saved. Mk.16:16.


Be baptized by water and the spirit to be saved. Jn.3:5. Endure to the end to be saved. Mt.24:13. Call on the name of the "Lord" to be saved. Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13. Believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:31. Believe, then all your household will be saved. Acts 16:31. Hope and you will be saved. Rom.8:24. Believe in the resurrection to be saved. Rom.10:9. By grace you are saved. Eph.2:5 By grace and faith you are saved. Eph.2:8. Have the love of truth to be saved. 2 Thes.2:10. Mercy saves. Titus 3:5. 54. Backsliders are condemned. 2 Pet.2:20. Backsliders are saved regardless. Jn.10:27-29. 55. Forgive seventy times seven. Mt.18:22. Forgiveness is not possible for renewed sin. Heb.6:4-6. 56. Divorce, except for unfaithfulness, is wrong. Mt.5:32. Divorce for any reason is wrong. Mk.10:11,12. 57. Jesus approved of destroying enemies. Lk.19:27. Jesus said to love your enemies. Mt.5:44. 58. God resides in heaven. Mt.5:45; Mt.6:9; Mt.7:21. Angels reside in heaven. Mk.13:32. Jesus is with God in heaven. Acts 7:55,56 Believers go to heaven. 1 Pet.1:3,4. Heaven will pass away. Mt.24:35; Mk.13:31; Lk.21:33. 59. Pray that you don't enter temptation. Mt.26:41. Temptation is a joy. Jms.1:2. 60. God leads you into temptation. Mt.6:13. God tempts no one. Jms.1:13. 61. Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you. Mt.6:25-34; Lk.12:22-31. A man who does not provide for his family is worse than an infidel. 1 Tim.5:8. 62. Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13. Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Mt.7:21. Only those whom the Lord chooses will be saved. Acts 2:39. 63. We are justified by works and not by faith. Mt.7:21; Rom.2:6,13; Jms.2:24. We are justified by faith and not by works. Jn.3:16; Rom.3:27; Eph.2:8,9.; Gal.2:16. 64. Do not take sandals (shoes) or staves. Mt.10:10. Take only sandals (shoes) and staves. Mk.6:8,9. 65. Jesus said that in him there was peace. Jn.16:33. Jesus said that he did not come to bring peace. Mt.10:34; Lk.12:51. 66. Jesus said that John the Baptist was a prophet and Elijah. Mt.11:9; Mt.17:12,13. John said that he was not a prophet nor was he Elijah. Jn.1:21. 67. Jesus said that he was meek and lowly. Mt.11:29. Jesus makes whips and drives the moneychangers out from the temple. Mt. 21:12; Mk.11:15,16; Jn.2:15. 68. Jesus said, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees". Lk.12:1. Jesus said, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees". Mt.16:6,11. Jesus said, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Herod". Mk.8:15. 69. Jesus founds his church on Peter. Mt.16:18. Jesus calls Peter "Satan" and a hindrance. Mt.16:23. 70. The mother of James and John asks Jesus to favor her sons. Mt.20:20,21. They ask for themselves. Mk.10:35-37. 71. Jesus responds that this favor is not his to give. Mt.20:23; Mk.10:40. Jesus said that all authority is given to him. Mt.28:18; Jn.3:35.


72. Jesus heals two unnamed blind men. Mt.20:29,30. Jesus heals one named blind man. Mk.10:46-52. 73. Jesus healed all that were sick. Mt.8:16; Lk.4:40. Jesus healed many that were sick - but not all. Mk.1:34. 74. The council asks Jesus if he is the Son of God. Lk.22:70. The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Christ, the Son of God. Mt.26:63. The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Christ the Son of the Blessed. Mk.14:61. The high priest asks Jesus about his disciples and his doctrine. Jn.18:19. 75. Jesus answers to the effect of “You said it, not me”. Mt.26:64; Lk.22:70. Jesus answers definitely, “I am”. Mk.14:62. 76. At the Mount of Olives, Jesus told Peter he would deny him three times. Mt.26:30-34. At the Passover meal, Jesus told Peter he would deny him three times. Lu.22:13,14,34. 77. Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed. Mt.26:34; Lk.22:34; Jn.13:38. Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed twice. Mk.14:30. 78. The cock crowed once. Mt.26:74. The cock crowed twice. Mk.14:72. 79. Peter makes his first denial to a maid and some others. Mt.26:69,70. It was only to the maid. Mk.14:66-68; Lk.22:56,57; Jn.18:17. 80. Peter’s second denial was to another maid. Mt.26:71,72. It was to the same maid. Mk.14:69,70. It was to a man and not a maid. Lk.22:58. It was to more than one person. Jn.18:25. 81. Peter’s third denial was to several bystanders. Mt.26:73,74; Mk.14:69,70. It was to one person. Lk.22:59,60. It was to a servant. Jn.18:26,27. 82. The chief priests bought the field. Mt.27:6,7. Judas bought the field. Acts 1:16-19. 83. Judas threw down the money and left. Mt.27:5. Judas used the coins to buy the field. Acts 1:18. 84. Judas hanged himself. Mt.27:5. Judas fell headlong and burst his head open. Acts 1:18. 85. Jesus did not answer any of the charges. Mt.27:12-14; Lk.23:9. Jesus answered some of the charges. Mk.14:61,62. Jesus answered all of the charges. Jn.18:33-37. 86. Jesus said that eternal life would be given to all that were given to him. Jn.11:27-29; Jn.17:12. Jesus released Judas in order to keep this promise. Jn.18:5-9. 87. The chief priests and elders persuade the people. Mt.27:20. Only the chief priests persuade the people. Mk.15:11. The chief priests and the people persuade themselves. Lk.23:13-23. 88. Jesus is given a scarlet robe. Mt.27:28. Jesus is given a purple robe. Mk.15:17; Jn.19:2. Jesus is given a gorgeous robe. Lk.23:11. 89. The sign says, “This is Jesus the King of the Jews”. Mt.27:37. The sign says, “The King of the Jews”. Mk.15:26. In three languages, the sign says, “This is the King of the Jews”. Lk.23:38. In the same three languages, the sign says, “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews”. Jn.19:19,20. 90. Jesus asks God, The Father, why he has forsaken him. Mt.27:46. Jesus said that he and The Father were one in the same. Jn.10:30; Jn.17:11,21,22. 91. The centurion says, “Truly this was the son of God”. Mt.27:54. The centurion says, “Truly this man was the son of God”. Mk.15:39. The centurion says, “Certainly, this was a righteous man”. Lk.23:47. There was no centurion. Jn.19:31-37.


92. Jesus was crucified at the third hour. Mk.15:25. Jesus was still before Pilate at the sixth hour. Jn.19:13,14. 93. The women looked on from “afar”. Mt.27:55; Mk.15:40; Lk.23:49. The women were very close. Jn.19:25. 94. The last recorded words of Jesus were: Version 1: “Eli, Eli …My God, My God why have you forsaken me” Mt.27:46. Version 2: “Eloi, Eloi…My God, My God why have you forsaken me” Mk.15:34. Version 3: “Father, into your hands I commend my spirit”. Lk.23:46. Version 4: “It is finished”. Jn.19:30. 95. A guard was placed at the tomb the day after the burial. Mt.27:65,66. No guard is mentioned. Mk.15:44-47; Lk.23:52-56; Jn.19:38-42. 96. Only those keeping the words of Jesus will never see death. Jn.8:51. Jesus’ disciples will be killed. Mt.24:3-9. All men die once. Heb.9:27. 97. Upon their arrival, the stone was still in place. Mt.28:1 2. Upon their arrival, the stone had been removed. Mk.16:4; Lk.24:2; Jn.20:1. 98. There was an earthquake. Mt.28:2. There was no earthquake. Mk.16:5; Lk.24:2-4; Jn.20:12. 99. The visitors ran to tell the disciples. Mt.28:8. The visitors told the eleven and all the rest. Lk.24:9. The visitors said nothing to anyone. Mk.16:8. 100. Jesus first resurrection appearance was right at the tomb. Jn.20:12-14. Jesus first resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb. Mt.28:8,9. Jesus first resurrection appearance was on the road to Emmaus. Lk.24:13-16. 101. One doubted. Jn.20:24. Some doubted. Mt.28:17. All doubted. Mk.16:11; Lk.24:11,14. 102. Jesus said that his blood was shed for many. Mk.14:24. Jesus said his blood was shed for his disciples. Lu.22:20. 103. Simon of Cyrene was forced to bear the cross of Jesus. Mt.27:32; Mk.15:21; Lu.23:26. Jesus bore his own cross. Jn.19:16,17. 104. Jesus was offered vinegar and gall to drink. Mt.27:34. Jesus was offered vinegar to drink. Jn.19:29,30. Jesus was offered wine and myrrh to drink. Mk.15:23. 105. Jesus refused the drink offered him. Mk.15:23. Jesus tasted the drink offered and then refused. Mt.27:34. Jesus accepted the drink offered him. Jn.19:30. 106. Both “thieves” mocked Jesus on the cross. Mt. 27:44; Mk.15:32. One “thief” sided with Jesus on the cross. Lu.23:39-41. 107. Joseph of Arimathaea boldly asked for the body of Jesus. Mk.15:43. Joseph of Arimathaea secretly asked for the body of Jesus. Jn.19:38. 108. Jesus was laid in a nearby tomb. Mk.15:46; Lu.23:53; Jn.19:41. Jesus was laid in Joseph’s new tomb. Mt.27:59,60. 109. A great stone was rolled in front of the tomb. Mt.27:60; Mk.15:46. There was nothing in front of the tomb. Lu.23:55; Jn.19:41. 110. Nicodemus prepared the body with spices. Jn.19:39,40. Failing to notice this, the women bought spices to prepare the body later. Mk. 16:1; Lu.23:55,56. 111. The body was anointed. Jn.19:39,40. The body was not anointed. Mk.15:46 to 16:1; Lk.23:55 to 24:1. 112. The women bought materials before the sabbath. Lu.23:56. The women bought materials after the sabbath. Mk.16:1. 113. Jesus was first seen by Cephas, then the twelve. 1 Cor.15:5. Jesus was first seen by the two Marys. Mt.28:1,8,9.


Jesus was first seen by Mary Magdalene. Mk.16:9; Jn.20:1,14,15. Jesus was first seen by Cleopas and others. Lu.24:17,18. Jesus was first seen by the disciples. Acts 10:40,41. 114. The two Marys went to the tomb. Mt.28:1. The two Marys and Salome went to the tomb. Mk.16:1. Several women went to the tomb. Lu.24:10. Only Mary Magdalene went to the tomb. Jn.20:1. 115. It was dawn when Mary went to the tomb. Mt.28:1; Mk.16:2. It was dark when Mary went to the tomb. Jn.20:1. 116. An angel sat on the stone at the door of the tomb. Mt.28:2. A man was sitting inside the tomb. Mk.16:5. 117. Two men were standing inside the tomb. Lk.24:3,4. Two angels were sitting inside the tomb. Jn.20:12. 118. Peter did not go into the tomb but stooped and looked inside. Lk.24:12. Peter did go into the tomb, and another disciple stooped and looked inside. Jn.20:3-6. 119. After the resurrection, the disciples held Jesus by the feet. Mt.28:9. After the resurrection, Jesus told Thomas to touch his side. John 20:27. After the resurrection, Jesus said that he was not to be touched. Jn.20:17. 120. Mary first saw Jesus at the tomb. Jn.20:11-15. Mary first saw Jesus on her way home. Mt.28:8-10. 121. The women entered the tomb. Mk.16:5; Lk.24:3. The women stayed outside the tomb. Jn.20:11. 122. The disciples were frightened when they saw Jesus. Lk.24:36,37. The disciples were glad when they first saw Jesus. Jn.20:20. 123. Twelve disciples saw Jesus. 1 Cor.15:5. Eleven disciples saw Jesus. Thomas was not there. Mt.28:16,17; Jn.20:19-25. 124. The disciples doubted that Jesus had risen from the dead. Mt.28:17. The Pharisees and chief priests believed it possible. Mt.27:62-66. 125. Jesus ascended on the third day after the resurrection. Lk.24:21,50,51. Jesus ascended the same day as the crucifixion. Lk.23:42 43. Jesus ascended forty days after the resurrection. Acts 1:3,9. 126. At the time of the ascension, there were about 120 brethren. Acts 1:15. At the time of the ascension, there were about 500 brethren. 1 Cor.15:6. 127. The moneychangers incident occurred at the end of Jesus’ career. Mt.21:11,12. The moneychangers incident occurred at the beginning of Jesus’ career. Jn.2:11-15. 128. Zacharias was the son of Jehoida, the priest. 2 Chr.24:20. Jesus said that Zacharias was the son of Barachias. Mt.23:35. (Note: The name Barachias or Barachiah does not appear in the OT.) 129. The coming of the kingdom will be accompanied by signs and miracles. Mt.24:29-33; Mk.13:24-29. It will not be accompanied by signs and miracles since it occurs from within. Lk.17:20,21. 130. The kingdom was prepared from the beginning. Mt.25:34. Jesus said that he was going to go and prepare the kingdom. Jn.14:2,3. 131. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin. Mk.3:29. All sins are forgivable. Acts 13:39; Col.2:13; 1 Jn.1:9. 132. The ascension took place while the disciples were seated together at a table. Mk.16:14-19. The ascension took place outdoors at Bethany. Lk.24:50,51. The ascension took place outdoors at Mt. Olivet. Acts 1:9-12. 133. The holy spirit was with John from before he was born. Lk.1:15,41. The holy spirit was with Elizabeth before John’s birth. Lk.1:41. The holy spirit was with Zechariah. Lk.1:67. The holy spirit was with Simeon. Lk.2:25. The holy spirit is obtained by asking. Lk.11:13.


The holy spirit did not come into the world until after Jesus had departed. Jn.7:39; Jn.16:7; Acts 1:3-8. 134. Sometimes God is responsible for unbelief. 2 Thes.2:11,12. Sometimes Jesus is responsible for unbelief. Mk.4:11,12. The devil causes unbelief. Lk.8:12. 135. Whoever hates his brother is a murderer. 1 Jn.3:15. If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar. 1 Jn.4:20. No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his brother. Lk.14:26. 136. Believers do not come into judgment. Jn.5:24. All people come into judgment. Mt.12:36; 2 Cor.5:10; Heb.9:27; 1 Pet.1:17; Jude 14,15; Rev.20:12,13. 137. Jesus says that, if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true. Jn.8:14. Jesus says that, if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true. Jn.5:31. 138. Men can choose whether or not to believe. Jn.5:38-47. Only God chooses who will believe. Jn.6:44. 139. None of Jesus’ followers would be lost. Jn.10:27-29. Some of Jesus’ followers would be lost. 1 Tim.4:1. 140. Jesus is the ruling prince of this world. Rev.1:5. The prince of this world will be cast out. Jn.12:31. 141. Jesus says all men will be saved. Jn.3:17. Only 144,000 virgin men will be saved. Rev. 14:1-4. 142. God wants all men to be saved. 1 Tim.2:3,4; 2 Pet.3:9. God does not want all men to be saved. Jn.12:40. 143. Peter asks Jesus where he is going. Jn.13:36. Thomas asks Jesus where he is going. Jn.14:5. Jesus said that no one asked where he was going. Jn.16:5. 144. Jesus lost only one disciple. Jn.17:12. Jesus lost no disciples. Jn.18:9. 145. Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth. Jn.18:37. The truth has always been evident. Rom.1:18-20. 146. During his first resurrection appearance, Jesus gave his disciples the holy spirit. Jn.20:22. The holy spirit was given to the disciples after his ascension. Acts 1:3-8. 147. The world could not contain all that could be written of Jesus. Jn.21:25. All was written. Acts.1:1. 148. Obey the laws of men for it is the will of God. 1 Pet.2:13-15. The disciples disobey the council. Acts 5:40-42. 149. Obey God, not men. Acts 5:29. Obey men. It is God’s will. Rom.13:1-4; 1 Pet.2:13-15. 150. God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before they were born. Rom.9:10-13. God shows no partiality and treats all alike. Acts 10:34; Rom.2:11. 151. All who have sinned without the law will perish without the law. Rom.2:12. Where there is no law there is no sin or transgression. Rom.4:15. 152. Doers of the law will be justified. Rom.2:13. Doers of the law will not be justified. Rom.3:20; Gal.3:11. 153. The law has dominion. Rom.7:1. The law does not have dominion. Rom.6:14. 154. The law was the result of sin. Gal.3:19. Sin is the result of breaking the law. 1 Jn.3:4. 155. Those of “God” cannot sin. 1 Jn.3:9. Those of “God” can sin. 1 Jn.1:7 8. 156. The anointing of Jesus teaches right from wrong. 1 Jn.2:27. The law written on the heart and conscience teaches right from wrong. Rom.2:15. 157. Abraham was justified by faith. Heb.11:8.


Abraham was justified by works. Jms.2:21. Abraham was not justified by works. Rom.4:2. 158. It is not good to eat or drink anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended. Rom.14:21. Let no one pass judgment on you in matters of food or drink. Col.2:16. 159. It is better that widows should not remarry. 1 Cor.7:8. It is better that young widows should remarry. 1 Tim.5:11-14. 160. The god of this world blinds people to the gospel. 2 Cor.4:4. There is only one god. 1 Cor.8:4. 161. The powers of this world are wicked, so fight against them. Eph.6:11-13. All powers are ordained of God and, if you resist, you are damned. Rom.13:1,2. 162. Bear one another’s burdens. Gal.6:2. Bear your own burdens. Gal.6:5. 163. Anyone who even greets a non-believer shares his wicked work. 2 Jn.10,11. Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith. 1 Pet.3:15. 164. All of the grass on the earth is burned up. Rev.8:7. The army of locusts are instructed not to harm the grass. Rev.9:4. 165. Only “The Father” knows. Mk.13:32. “Jesus” and “The Father” are one. Jn.10:30; 17:11,21,22. 166. Jesus said that he would judge. Jn.5:22,27-30; Jn.9:39. Jesus said that he would not judge. Jn.8:15; Jn.12:47. Jesus said that The Father judges. Jn.12:48,49. Jesus said that The Father does not judge. Jn.5:22. Jesus said that his disciples would judge. Lk.22:30. 167. He that does not believe is damned. Mk.16:16. Thomas did not believe and was not damned. Jn.20:27-29. 168. “When his branch is yet tender”. Mt.24:32. “When her branch is yet tender”. Mk.13:28. 169. Jesus is God. Jn.10:30. Jesus is the “image” of God. 2 Cor.4:4. Jesus was a man approved by God. Acts 2:22. 170. Jesus and God are one in the same. Jn.1:1. Jesus is beside himself. Mk.16:19; Acts 2:32,33; 7:55; Rom.8:34; etc. 171. Jesus is the Son of God. Jn.6:69; Jn.20:31. Jesus is the Son of Man. Mt.18:11; Lk.21:27. 172. Paul states that he does not lie. Rom.9:1; 2 Cor.11:31; Gal.1:20; 1 Tim.2:7. Paul states that he does lie. Rom.3:7. 173. Paul said that he does not use trickery. 1 Thes.2:3. Paul admits to using trickery. 2 Cor.12:16. 174. Paul says that circumcision is nothing. 1 Cor.7:19. Paul says that circumcision is profitable. Rom.2:25; Rom.3:1,2. 175. Do not covet. Rom.7:7; Rom.13:9. Paul says covet. 1 Cor.12:31; 1 Cor.14:39. 176. Paul teaches not to steal. Eph.4:28. Paul admits to stealing. 2 Cor.11:8. 177. Paul was assured that he would not be hurt. Acts 18:9,10. Paul was often physically abused. 2 Cor.11:23-27. 178. Paul states that the law is necessary. Rom.3:31. Paul states that the law is not necessary. Rom.6:14. 179. Jesus said to go and baptize. Mt.28:19. Paul said he was not sent to baptize. 1 Cor.1:17. 180. Paul said he was not sent to baptize but to preach. 1 Cor.1:17. Paul baptized. 1 Cor.1:16.


181. Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law. Mt.5:17-19. Paul said otherwise. Eph.2:15. 182. Jesus said that God did not condemn the world. Jn. 3:17. Paul said that God did condemn the world. Rom.5:18. 183. Those present at Paul’s conversion stood. Acts 9:7. They fell to the ground. Acts 26:14. 184. Those present at Paul’s conversion heard a voice but saw nothing. Acts 9:7. Those present at Paul’s conversion saw a light but heard nothing. Acts 22:9. 185. Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus where he spent some time with the apostles. Acts 9:19. Paul went to Damascus three years later and saw only Peter and James. Gal.1:18,19. 186. Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus and then to Jerusalem. Acts 9:18-26. Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Arabia, then to Damascus, and then, 3 years later, to Jerusalem. Gal.1:17,18. 187. In Damascus, the governor attempts to seize Paul. 2 Cor.11:32. In Damascus, the Jews attempt to seize Paul. Acts 9:22,23. 188. The holy spirit forbids preaching in Asia. Acts 16:6. Paul preaches in Asia anyway. Acts 19:8-10. 189. Paul said he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men. Gal.1:10. Paul said that he tried to please men. 1 Cor.10:33. 190. Paul says that he was the chief of all sinners. 1 Tim.1:15. He who commits sin is of the devil. Children of God cannot sin. 1 Jn.3:8-10. 191. Paul said that Jesus is the judge. 2 Tim.4:1. Paul said that God is the judge. Heb.12:23. Paul said that the saints would judge. 1 Cor.6:2. 192. Paul said that Jesus was the Son of God. Rom.1:3,4. Paul said that Jesus was just a man. Heb.7:24. 193. Do not boast. Lk.18:14. Do not be proud. Rom.11:20; 1 Pet. 5:5. Paul proudly boasts. 2 Cor.11:16-18; Gal.2:9-11. 194. Jesus commends the church at Ephesus for discerning the lying apostles. Rev. 2:1,2. Paul was the apostle to Ephesus. Eph.1:1.



And OP one more for you and the others here. This is readable. Mostly anyway. Last section of the wondrous paper 16. 9. Reality of Human Consciousness




(195.7) 16:9.1 The cosmic-mind-endowed, Adjuster-indwelt, personal creature possesses innate recognition-realization of energy reality, mind reality, and spirit reality. The will creature is thus equipped to discern the fact, the law, and the love of God. Aside from these three inalienables of human consciousness, all human experience is really subjective except that intuitive realization of validity attaches to the unification of these three universe reality responses of cosmic recognition. (195.8) 16:9.2 The God-discerning mortal is able to sense the unification value of these three cosmic qualities in the evolution of the surviving soul, man’s supreme undertaking in the physical tabernacle where the moral mind collaborates with the indwelling divine spirit to dualize the immortal soul. From its earliest inception the soul is real; it has cosmic survival qualities. (195.9) 16:9.3 If mortal man fails to survive natural death, the real spiritual values of his human experience survive as a part of the continuing experience of the Thought Adjuster. (Father Fragment-Candace). The personality values of such a nonsurvivor persist as a factor in the personality of the actualizing Supreme Being. Such persisting qualities of personality are deprived of identity but not of experiential values accumulated during the mortal life in the flesh. The survival of identity is dependent on the survival of the immortal soul of morontia status and increasingly divine value. Personality identity survives in and by the survival of the soul. (195.10) 16:9.4 Human self-consciousness implies the recognition of the reality of selves other than the conscious self and further implies that such awareness is mutual; that the self is known as it knows. This is shown in a purely human manner in man’s social life. But you cannot become so absolutely certain of a fellow being’s reality as you can of the reality of the presence of God that lives within you. The social consciousness is not inalienable like the God-consciousness; it is a cultural development and is dependent on knowledge, symbols, and the contributions of the constitutive endowments of man — science, morality, and religion. And these cosmic gifts, socialized, constitute civilization. (196.1) 16:9.5 Civilizations are unstable because they are not cosmic; they are not innate in the individuals of the races. They must be nurtured by the combined contributions of the constitutive factors of man — science, morality, and religion. Civilizations come and go, but science, morality, and religion always survive the crash. (196.2) 16:9.6 Jesus not only revealed God to man, but he also made a new revelation of man to himself and to other men. In the life of Jesus you see man at his best. Man thus becomes so beautifully real because Jesus had so much of God in his life, and the realization (recognition) of God is inalienable and constitutive in all men. (196.3) 16:9.7 Unselfishness, aside from parental instinct, is not altogether natural; other persons are not naturally loved or socially served. It requires the enlightenment of reason, morality, and the urge of religion, God-knowingness, to generate an unselfish and altruistic social order. Man’s own personality awareness, self-consciousness, is also directly dependent on this very fact of innate other-awareness, this innate ability to recognize and grasp the reality of other personality, ranging from the human to the divine. (196.4) 16:9.8 Unselfish social consciousness must be, at bottom, a religious consciousness; that is, if it is objective; otherwise it is a purely subjective philosophic abstraction and therefore devoid of love. Only a God-knowing individual can love another person as he loves himself. (196.5) 16:9.9 Self-consciousness is in essence a communal consciousness: God and man,


Father and son, Creator and creature. In human self-consciousness four universe-reality realizations are latent and inherent: (196.6) 16:9.10 1. The quest for knowledge, the logic of science. (196.7) 16:9.11 2. The quest for moral values, the sense of duty. (196.8) 16:9.12 3. The quest for spiritual values, the religious experience. (196.9) 16:9.13 4. The quest for personality values, the ability to recognize the reality of God as a personality and the concurrent realization of our fraternal relationship with fellow personalities. (196.10) 16:9.14 You become conscious of man as your creature brother because you are already conscious of God as your Creator Father. Fatherhood is the relationship out of which we reason ourselves into the recognition of brotherhood. And Fatherhood becomes, or may become, a universe reality to all moral creatures because the Father has himself bestowed personality upon all such beings and has encircuited them within the grasp of the universal personality circuit. We worship God, first, because he is, then, because he is in us, and last, because we are in him. (196.11) 16:9.15 Is it strange that the cosmic mind should be self-consciously aware of its own source, the infinite mind of the Infinite Spirit, and at the same time conscious of the physical reality of the far-flung universes, the spiritual reality of the Eternal Son, and the personality reality of the Universal Father? (196.12) 16:9.16 [Sponsored by a Universal Censor from Uversa.] (Candace: Uversa is the Capital World of Orvonton, SuperUniverse #7. The Milky Way is the Core Galaxy of Orvonton, but is not all of it. Nebadon, our local universe is part of Orvonton. Orvonton has 100,000 local universes. Michael of Nebadon, is the Creator Son of Nebadon. His parents are the Father and the Eternal Son. He is "partnered" with Mother Nebadon, our Daughter of the Infinite Spirit. Thus thru Michael of Nebadon and Nebadonia, so does the Trinity have representation to Nebadon. Candace: I once wrote a short commentary teaching for clerics, all of them. We never got to send out that letter, the timing did not mature, but at the simplest, I taught that: Father is the SOURCE of all The Eternal Son is Spirit The Infinite Spirit is MIND. Now all of this is over simplified, but one has to start somewhere to understand the Trinity. The Infinite Spirit has Sons called the Master Spirits, One for each of the Seven Superuniverses. The MIND of each Superuniverse's Master Spirit IS the sum total of all the COSMIC Mind of of that Superuniverse. The Infinite Spirit also has daughters, called the Mother Spirits of the Local Universes, who bring thus the Infinite Spirit to the Local Universes of their domains. That is WHERE YOU START in your understanding of the 3d Person of the Trinity. You in Christianity at least have been greatly confused by the Trinity. All of it, because you didn't even get that the Father of Michael of Nebadon, (Jesus when he was here 2000 years ago), is


also YOUR FATHER and YOU ARE HIS SON. This is the teaching MOST needed on this planet. That GOD IS YOUR FATHER AND YOU ARE HIS SON. Then after that, the next most important teaching, is That as HIS SON, he Expects YOU and PRovides for, you Way to BECOME LIKE HIM. That is his WILL, that you Become LIKE HIM. As as you take your cosmic journey, your ascension journey, into knowing, so shall you become more and more like HIM.


United States 7/17/2011 7:14 PM Urantia Book is an interesting read that is supportive of Christianity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471795 Of course it is supportive of Christianity... Jesus foreold this would happen . Mark 13v6 " For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. " Now this verse has been misread . What Jesus is saying is that many will say Jesus is the Christ and will decieve many by teaching a waterdowned and twistwed gospel . All the false gospels incorporate Jesus in them to make them look good ...just like the urantia garbage ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622

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Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth You've never read anyone's thoughts TexGal.....or knew what they were thinking? Or how about, knew the telephone was about to ring......and then it did?

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Have you ever read the Book of Mormon? ATONTRUTH User ID: 1471817

United States 7/17/2011 7:19 PM Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth




If your saying that the god of exodus is/was Satan..I agree. Just by reading then book of Exodus, you must discern that no God of love would EVER do the things ascribed to that god....common sense. ObeWayneKenobe Offer Upgrade User ID: 1330622


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United States 7/17/2011 7:22 PM He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth If your saying that the god of exodus is/was Satan..I agree. Just by reading then book of Exodus, you must discern that no God of love would EVER do the things ascribed to that god....common sense. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 That is because your way of thinking is that Man is righteous and good. You dont take into account that Mankind rebelled and rejected God . What would you do if you created a robot that rebelled and rejected you?





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Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth If your saying that the god of exodus is/was Satan..I agree. Just by reading then book of Exodus, you must discern that no God of love would EVER do the things ascribed to that god....common sense. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 That is because your way of thinking is that Man is righteous and good. You dont take into account that Mankind rebelled and rejected God . What would you do if you created a robot that rebelled and rejected you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901 Question my ability as a "Perfect Being" that couldn't even create a robot that wouldn't obey! LOL



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He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth If your saying that the god of exodus is/was Satan..I agree. Just by reading then book of Exodus, you must discern that no God of love would EVER do the things ascribed to that god....common sense. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 Not saying that at all. I'm saying that just as Moses through God was able to perform great wonders, so were pharaoh's buddies through the power/deception Satan gave them. :)









Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth If your saying that the god of exodus is/was Satan..I agree. Just by reading then book of Exodus, you must discern that no God of love would EVER do the things ascribed to that god....common sense. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 That is because your way of thinking is that Man is righteous and good. You dont take into account that Mankind rebelled and rejected God . What would you do if you created a robot that rebelled and rejected you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335901



Then you just took Jesus out of the picture as even he channeled the Father. Quoting: ATONTRUTH 1471817 He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth




Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth TXgal. What did you NOT get on a prior post I made that spirit beings don't have low grade bodies like this one, and have no mouths or fingers to type, and that they thus communicate MIND TO

MIND? Come on Gal, find that Higher mind (your father fragment) I know you have. He went directly to the FATHER thru his Father Fragment and communicated MIND TO MIND. Since your Father Fragment is a PIECE OF THE FATHER's MIIND, how else would you communicate with the FATHER EXCEPT BY YOUR MIND AND HIS MIND? Prayer is not the method, MEDITATION IS. Jesus communicated with his FAther Thru the MIND OF HIS FATHER THAT WAS INSIDE OF HIM at the time. BY TELEPATHY dear one. The FATHER of the TRINITY, YOUR FATHER and JESUS FATHER LIVES a very LONG DISTANCE from here, he didn't just go to his "Father". Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/17/2011 7:40 PM



He went DIRECTLY to the Father as we all should. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth





TXgal. What did you NOT get on a prior post I made that spirit beings don't have low grade bodies like this one, and have no mouths or fingers to type, and that they thus communicate MIND TO

MIND? Come on Gal, find that mind I know you have. He went directly to the FATHER thru his FAther FRagment and communicated MIND TO MIND. Since your Father Fragment is a PIECE OF THE FATHER's MIIND, how else would you communicate with the FATHER EXCEPT BY YOUR MIND AND HIS MIND? Quoting: Nobody in Particular What spirits would these be Candace? Would it be those that MASQUERADE as angels of light?



Yes, but Telepathy is the telephone of the future........and you can talk to just about anybody(and everybody) on THAT line! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth TXgal. What did you NOT get on a prior post I made that spirit beings don't have low grade bodies like this one, and have no mouths or fingers to type, and that they thus communicate MIND TO

MIND? Come on Gal, find that mind I know you have. He went directly to the FATHER thru his FAther FRagment and communicated MIND TO MIND. Since your Father Fragment is a PIECE OF THE FATHER's MIIND, how else would you communicate with the FATHER EXCEPT BY YOUR MIND AND HIS MIND? Quoting: Nobody in Particular What spirits would these be Candace? Would it be those that MASQUERADE as angels of light? Quoting: TXGal4Truth Big FAIL TX, you did not answer my question, you completely side tracked it with bullshit. AGAIN,




how else except MIND do you communicate with the FAther Within you? How else did Jesus do the same, he didn't send an email! And you don't send an email to the Father, and the Father doesn't send you an email either. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/17/2011 7:46 PM

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Sorry Obe, but I don't believe in any of that. I mean I have no doubt that it exists, but it is NOT of God. Don't forget the power SATAN can give as well. EXODUS is a great example of that. :) Quoting: TXGal4Truth TXgal. What did you NOT get on a prior post I made that spirit beings don't have low grade bodies like this one, and have no mouths or fingers to type, and that they thus communicate MIND TO

MIND? Come on Gal, find that mind I know you have. He went directly to the FATHER thru his FAther FRagment and communicated MIND TO MIND. Since your Father Fragment is a PIECE OF THE FATHER's MIIND, how else would you communicate with the FATHER EXCEPT BY YOUR MIND AND HIS MIND? Quoting: Nobody in Particular What spirits would these be Candace? Would it be those that MASQUERADE as angels of light? Quoting: TXGal4Truth







Big FAIL TX, you did not answer my question, you completely side tracked it with bullshit. AGAIN, how else except MIND do you communicate with the FAther Within you? How else did Jesus do the same, he didn't send an email! And you don't send an email to the Father, and the Father doesn't send you an email either. Quoting: Nobody in Particular DIRECTLY. I don't need to channel any other FALSE DEMONS to do so.



TXgal. What did you NOT get on a prior post I made that spirit beings don't have low grade bodies like this one, and have no mouths or fingers to type, and that they thus communicate MIND TO

MIND? Come on Gal, find that mind I know you have. He went directly to the FATHER thru his FAther FRagment and communicated MIND TO MIND. Since your Father Fragment is a PIECE OF THE FATHER's MIIND, how else would you communicate with the FATHER EXCEPT BY YOUR MIND AND HIS MIND? Quoting: Nobody in Particular What spirits would these be Candace? Would it be those that MASQUERADE as angels of light? Quoting: TXGal4Truth Big FAIL TX, you did not answer my question, you completely side tracked it with bullshit. AGAIN, how else except MIND do you communicate with the FAther Within you? How else did Jesus do the same, he didn't send an email! And you don't send an email to the Father, and the Father doesn't send you an email either. Quoting: Nobody in Particular DIRECTLY. I don't need to channel any other FALSE DEMONS to do so. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Will you stop avoiding the obvious TX and answer my question. They don't have email. IF you have a guardian angel and you are not a new soul so I assume you do, if you aren't listening to her




by telepathy that is your fault and not mine. there is not an email system now stop sidestepping what I am asking of you and taking aim at me with false pure BULLCRAP. You cannot communicate with the FAther in side of you without Telepahty. And excuse me what is a "FALSE DEMON?" A good one? LOOK at the words your used. You ones consider demons as bad, so a false demon must be a good little fairy, right? If you are going to play in this thread at least think before you type. IF YOU ARE CONTACTING YOUR FATHER FRAGMENT WITHIN YOU, OR YOUR GUARDIAN ANGELS, YOU ARE USING TELEPATHY. There is NO OTHER WAY, except mind to mind. That is the DIRECT WAY. So stop this stuff you write because you are making your self look silly to ones who KNOW. Direct communication IS telepathy, or mind to mind. I don't "channel" at all, if be that you mean a being coming in and using my vocal cords while I am in hypnosis. I have never done that. I am a telepath which is NOT channeling, I am in DIRECT contact, as much a contact as when YOU talk live on the telephone to somebody you know. There is no difference except there is no equipment and no voice used. The UB is "channeled" material because these various beings used the contact personality, while he/she was under self hypnosis to give a verbal record and there was a stenographer present who wrote it down as it was spoken using shorthand because there were not tape recorders in those days. No stop the bullshit all of you, because when you post as you have above about witchcraft

etc, you prove you don't know jack shit. Witchcraft and similar words and your "demons" imply dark beings using stuff in dark ways. As I said there are the godly arts also. Jesus healed using good witch craft, whether you like the idea or NOT. You ones have got to GROWUP INTO GOD KNOWING PEOPLE AND OUT OF THESE SILLY IDEAS WHICH ARE BORN OF YOUR IGNORANCE AND SUPERSTITION. FOR THAT IS WHAT IT IS, SUPERSTITION AND YOU LIVE ON A MODERN WORLD, THE TRUTH WAS GIVEN AS PROMISED THRU SEVERAL SOURCES. NOW GROW UP OUT OF YOUR SUPERSTITIOUS CHILDHOODS, YOU ARE ADULTS NOW. You are past satan claws and the easter bunny, and the halloween stuff. I hope so anyway. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/18/2011 9:52 AM -------------------------------------------- Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. Love is the desire to do good to others-Urantia Book Moral acts are those human performances which are characterized by the highest intelligence, directed by selective discrimination in the choice of superior ends as well as in the selection of moral means to attain these ends. Such conduct is virtuous. Supreme virtue, then, is wholeheartedly to choose to do the will of the Father in heaven. UB Fresh Revelation for this age found in The Urantia Book, The Phoenix Journals, The Course in Miracles (the 365 lessons, NOT the URTEXT which is FULL of BLING and otherwise google Candace Frieze. Also visit [link to www.wisdomoftherays.com] , Dolores Cannon, and Conversations with God, in which the main God giving the material is Buddha.




We must build a new SANE world, ONE THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY, for the reason money is the root of all evil, is that it Enslaves the SOUL. Be about watching Aaron Russo's From Freedom to Fascism. Seeking Visionaries,who can and will create the many messianic missions needed to heal Earth and her peoples, and bring balance. Seeking those who Know their truth, ( as they listen to Their Father Fragment) and will strive earnestly to stand in that truth 100% of the time, making every moment of everyday, a Holy Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Every Day is the Lord's Day. -----------------------------------------------------------------

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I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is.




There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Wrong, This is channeled book, no prophecy, no prophets just a space alien love story sci-fi mixed with satans lies this book only fools the heathen I pray deceivers like cadance would just get a clue



Have you ever read the Book of Mormon? Quoting: 2 1/2 Morans LOL........8 and a half times!(pathetic huh? lol) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe the book of mormon has probably been messed with less than the bible. I read it once, but it's been a long time. The Mormon church hugely corrupted the teachings given, such as the wearing of white underwear for protection instead of white lighting ones self for protection. Huge corruption. I figured out their heaven system once, and the lower heaven I think is reincarnation into worlds like this, the middle one the astral levels, and the highest heaven, the architectural worlds or maybe Paradise or the Central universe, but as I write this today, I don't fully remember what I figured out. That is an evil church regards it's hierarchy and many sick things go on underneath some of their temples. Soon after Joseph Smith was given the tablets etc, marduk got himself involved in corrupting it all.





The Book of Mormon IS a history of a people that traveled to this continent from someplace else. The Old Testament is a history of another small people who lived in the middle east. ABraham lived I believe in what is Iraq now. At the time of the OT, there were people everywhere on this planet. all of them have their histories, told thru oral traditions and written down. I don't know why you ones consider the OT so special, its just the history of one small group of people amongst MANY groups back then. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/18/2011 9:38 AM



What spirits would these be Candace? Would it be those that MASQUERADE as angels of light? Quoting: TXGal4Truth Big FAIL TX, you did not answer my question, you completely side tracked it with bullshit. AGAIN, how else except MIND do you communicate with the FAther Within you? How else did Jesus do the same, he didn't send an email! And you don't send an email to the Father, and the Father doesn't send you an email either. Quoting: Nobody in Particular DIRECTLY. I don't need to channel any other FALSE DEMONS to do so. Quoting: TXGal4Truth Will you stop avoiding the obvious TX and answer my question. They don't have email. IF you have a guardian angel and you are not a new soul so I assume you do, if you aren't listening to her by telepathy that is your fault and not mine. there is not an email system now stop sidestepping what I am asking of you and taking aim at me with false pure BULLCRAP. You cannot communicate with the FAther in side of you without Telepahty. And excuse me what is a "FALSE DEMON?" A good one? LOOK at the words your used. You ones consider demons as bad, so a false demon must be a good little fairy, right? If you are going to play in this thread at least think before you type. IF YOU ARE CONTACTING YOUR FATHER FRAGMENT WITHIN YOU, OR YOUR GUARDIAN ANGELS, YOU ARE USING TELEPATHY. There is NO OTHER WAY, except mind to mind. That is the DIRECT WAY. So stop this stuff you write because you are making your self look silly to ones who KNOW. Direct communication IS telepathy, or mind to mind. I don't "channel" at all, if be that you mean a





being coming in and using my vocal cords while I am in hypnosis. I have never done that. I am a telepath which is NOT channeling, I am in DIRECT contact, as much a contact as when YOU talk live on the telephone to somebody you know. There is no difference except there is no equipment and no voice used. The UB is "channeled" material because these various beings used the contact personality, while he/she was under self hypnosis to give a verbal record and there was a stenographer present who wrote it down as it was spoken using shorthand because there were not tape recorders in those days. No stop the bullshit all of you, because when you post as you have above about witchcraft

etc, you prove you don't know jack shit. Witchcraft and similar words and your "demons" imply dark beings using stuff in dark ways. As I said there are the godly arts also. Jesus healed using good witch craft, whether you like the idea or NOT. You ones have got to GROWUP INTO GOD KNOWING PEOPLE AND OUT OF THESE SILLY IDEAS WHICH ARE BORN OF YOUR IGNORANCE AND SUPERSTITION. FOR THAT IS WHAT IT IS, SUPERSTITION AND YOU LIVE ON A MODERN WORLD, THE TRUTH WAS GIVEN AS PROMISED THRU SEVERAL SOURCES. NOW GROW UP OUT OF YOUR SUPERSTITIOUS CHILDHOODS, YOU ARE ADULTS NOW. You are past satan claws and the easter bunny, and the halloween stuff. I hope so anyway. In chal Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace, do you actually beleive the bullshit that falls out of your mouth? you are deceived by the trans-dimensionals you worship Followers of YHVH discern the truth in these matters Alien lovers need to just go away.....



I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom.




In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information. Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Wrong, This is channeled book, no prophecy, no prophets just a space alien love story sci-fi mixed with satans lies this book only fools the heathen I pray deceivers like cadance would just get a clue Quoting: YAHisking YAH your SHILLING IS SO OBVIOUS this morning. I am taking leave of this thread unless someone who is real posts honestly here. I am not dealing with you shills anymore. YAH is here to finish destroying the thread. How do I know, because she has done it before, and also because she communicated by PM with me before and let me know the agenda. So GOOD BYE, hope those of you who are sincere enjoyed the material and have bookmarked it if necessary. I will not deal further with shills, because of their purpose of being shills. Yah came to GLP at the same time frame several others did, to destroy God's work, so be it. It was when we announced that



many from above would be walking the planet, and they are here still, but the thugs got really worried back then and lashed out big time, so we went quiet to their appearances for a time. We are still be quiet, dear thugs and shills. Obviously YAH has NOT read those 2000+ pages. The post screams of that. I hope you real and sincere readers are not put off by it, because that is what the shills here are trying to do, to keep sheeples in line. Heaven forbid they find their godhood within them. YAH and TXGal would prefer you ones never come to know the power of the FAther Fragment and your own mind within you. They would prefer you continue to manufacture demons, which I explained above. These are nothing more than thought forms. Demons are not entities. They are more like a computer virus. They are created by the imagination and then used in black magic to bother other people. These ones who are shilling want you in fact to get so angry with me, that you will create demons directed at me. I brush them off readily when I sense it. You ones are dark, not of the light. This thread is full of witchcraft in that sense, the shill posts. They know how to play the game. Its not just words, their actions speak. Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/18/2011 9:56 AM Anonymous Coward User ID: 1136986

Romania 7/18/2011 9:50 AM What is the difference between angels contacting prophets and spirit beings contacting people to write the book of Urantia? No fucking difference! Jews and Christians honestly can't judge the Urantia book. Look in the mirror.



I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful information.





Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually read this entire mess? Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you think I am wrong. One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. Not knowing what it is. There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Wrong, This is channeled book, no prophecy, no prophets just a space alien love story sci-fi mixed with satans lies this book only fools the heathen I pray deceivers like cadance would just get a clue Quoting: YAHisking YAH your SHILLING IS SO OBVIOUS this morning. I am taking leave of this thread unless someone who is real posts honestly here. I am not dealing with you shills anymore. YAH is here to finish destroying the thread. How do I know, because she has done it before, and also because she communicated by PM with me before and let me know the agenda. So GOOD BYE, hope those of you who are sincere enjoyed the material and have bookmarked it if necessary. I will not deal further with shills, because of their purpose of being shills. Yah came to GLP at the same time frame several others did, to destroy God's work, so be it. It was when we announced that many from above would be walking the planet, and they are here still, but the thugs got really worried back then and lashed out big time, so we went quiet to their appearances for a time. We are still be quiet, dear thugs and shills. Obviously YAH has NOT read those 2000+ pages. The post screams of that. I hope your real and sincere readers are not put off by it, because that is what the shills here are trying to do, to keep sheeples in line. Heaven forbid they find their godhood within them. Quoting: Nobody in Particular



Thanks for exposing yourself again you liar! All this god within is just another new age lie Thats all you do candace is lie, yes i contacted you to offer deliverance serves for your demon possession you chose not to repent and thats fine, so if you must deceive I Am here to expose you and your new age players I know why you run from me, I have blocked your evil contacts on occasions, obe has informed me of my success you are working for the same idiots who are creating all the worlds problems All you offer is deception cloaked in lies you have no prophetic message and everything you said would happen was a miserable failure Jupiter ignition? what a damn joke!



Candace, so go back to the threads you can control there will be no peace for you here



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