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    3o ou5:e got bottom set on athreeFflush board and ouropponent Gust checkFraised ouallFin. 4hat do ou doD 4ell! thefirst thing ou do is ou put ouropponent on a hand.

    8and reading is simultaneousl the

    most important and the mostdifficult thing that a poker plaerdoes. 3ome of the best pokerplaers in the world ignore man "orallH) of those other IrulesI in poker!ha:e deadlFaccurate hand readingskills! and make mountains of cashfor their troubles. 6ther plaers areexJuisitel good at all thefundamentals but stink at handreading and therefore struggle to

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    consistentl beat K?(N#.

    nfortunatel! there is no ImagicformulaI for hand readingL after all!our opponents work :er hard toAM6+ letting ou know the cards intheir hands. 8owe:er! while there isa great deal of artistr in hand

    reading! the basics are describable.After some thought + came up withthese i:e Commandments of 8andReading "+ had ten! but one of thetablets broke when E,C dropped itFF sorr! blame the mod) to get oustarted.

    4/ 5now t)y n"#bers/

    3o ou know that our opponentwho Gust limped has a M*+* of =(OLwhat does =(O reall ,EAND 4eknow it5s loose! but are ou reallaware of what I=(O of all handsdealtI actuall looks likeD 8ere aresome probabilities of getting a handin a particular preflop range$

    3uperFpremiums$ AA! PP! 77! AP.Total probabilit$ %.'O.*remiums$ AAFTT! AP! A7! P7. Totalprobabilit$ ?.O.An pocket pair$ AAF%%. Total

    probabilit$ ?.O.An two broadwa$ Two cards! bothTQ! including pairs. Totalprobabilit$ ;>.=O.An suited ace$ A%sFAPs. Totalprobabilit$ =.'O.nsuited ace$ A%oFAPo. Totalprobabilit$ ;(.O.I,aximum suited connectorsI$TsF?>s. Total probabilit$ %.;O.An ace$ A%oQ! A%sQ! AA. Totalprobabilit$ ;>.O.

    An two suited$ literall. Totalprobabilit$ %=.?O.An two connectors$ =%sFAPs!=%oFAPo. Total probabilit$ ;>.?O.

    To gi:e ou a MER/ broad feel forwhat different percentages translateinto! here are some potentialexample ranges$

    ?O S Ipairs @@Q! AP! A7sI or Ipairs

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    Q! AP! A7.I;(O S Ipairs ''Q! AP! A7! suitedaces! P7s! 7sI;?O S Ian pair! AP! A7! P7!suited connectors ?>Q! an suitedaceI%(O S Ian pair! an twobroadwa! an suited aceI

    %?O S Ian pair! an suitedbroadwa! an ace! an suitedconnectors ?>sQ! P7oI=(O S Ian pair! an ace! ansuited king! an suited broadwa!an suited connectors ?>sQ! PToQ!7oI or Ian pair! an ace! ansuited king! an broadwaI>(O S Ian pair! an ace! an king!an two broadwa! an suitedconnectors =%sQI?(O S Ian pair! an two suitedcards! an ace! an two broadwa!P?oQI

    Again! remember to use therele:ant range$ a plaer who is'?;( is looser than the ?(O rangewhen he limps but has a rather tightrange if he actuall raises. Alsoreali-e that some plaers who areloose and passi:e will raise with3EC6NFbest hands like F! A!P7! and ?>sFTs! but N6T the ultraFpremiums like 77Q! AP! and A7 FF

    those the will slowpla to disguisetheir hands. 4atch these folks atshowdown to tr and figure out howthe pla their reall big hands.

    *ostflop aggression numbers alsore:eal much about a plaer. 4hen aplaer with an a:erage aggressionof raises preflop and then checksto ou! suspect a trap$ this is :eroften a strong hand that5s going fora checkFraise. 4hen ou get that

    same preflop bet and flop checkfrom a plaer whose a:erageaggression is ;.=! that5s more likelto be a plaer who missed and isgi:ing up. 4hen that same placomes from someone with a postflopaggression of (.>! ou gain noinformation from the check FFchecking is Gust what this plaerdoes. ,entall split plaers intothree groups FF high aggression!

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    medium aggression! and lowaggression FF and then adGustaccordingl. Be MER/ afraid when aplaer is plaing out of character$the passi:e postflop plaer wholeads and raises almost alwas has amonster! and ou can fold without aworr. The ultramaniac who

    checkcalls two streets also has amonster! and is waiting to beat ourbrains out. on5t fall for it. All of thisleads us to our secondcommandment$

    2/ 5now t)y ene#y/

    A leopard ne:er changes its spots!especiall at uN# stakes. Together!the 8 trinit "M*+*! *R! anda:erage aggression) tell us muchabout a plaer. #oose plaers plalooseL tight plaers pla tight.Aggressi:e plaers pla aggressi:eland passi:e plaers pla passi:el.Categori-e our opponents on threeseparate measures$

    %reflop looseness$ a loose preflopplaer has a M*+* o:er >(O "+ madeup the number! but ou get thegeneral idea). These gus ha:e crappreflop! and an hand ou5re willing

    to pla is beating their range.Beware of these folks postflop!howe:er FF there5s no flop thatdefinitel missed our enem. Beprepared to pla with caution whenou don5t ha:e a monster. That5s notto sa ou should be checkFcallingLrather! expect to be ahead and betconsistentl with our made hands!but keep the bets small and tr forpot control. Alternati:el! raise lightand raise strong preflop while our

    hand dominates our opponent5srange. 8is mistake is plaing tooman hands FF exploit this mistakeb hammering him preflop whileou5re wa ahead.

    6n the other hand! a tight preflopplaer has a M*+* under %(O. Thesefolks won5t enter into a hand unlessthe5:e got something worthpursuing. The aren5t reall making

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    a maGor mistake preflop! and theonl wa ou can reall takead:antage of this characteristic is bstealing their blinds remorselessl"though ou5ll ha:e to instafold ifthe catch ou stealing and oudon5t ha:e an honest hand).

    %reflop aggresssion$ a passi:epreflop plaer has a *R under aJuarter of their M*+*. That meansthat this is a floating scale$ while;(O *R is passi:e for a plaer whohas a M*+* of ??O! it is aggressi:efor a plaer who has a M*+* of ;?O.Alternati:el! an aggressi:e preflopplaer will ha:e a *R o:er half oftheir M*+*. 4hen we5re tring todecide a plaer5s preflop holding! weshould use their M*+* and their *Rto come to a conclusion. 3a aplaer has a M*+* of >(O and a *Rof %(O and the limp in front ofou. 4hat sort of holdings do ouexpect them to ha:eD 4ell! we knowthe plaer is willing to pla with>(O of his handsL our sample rangefor this looked something like Ianpair! an ace! an king! an twobroadwa! an suited connectors=%sQ.I But we can alread refinethis range some more$ we know thatwith %(O of those hands! :illain

    would ha:e raised! and here hedidn5t. +f we assume that :illainraises with his top %(O! our samplerange for that looks something likeIan pair! an two broadwa! ansuited ace.I 3o take T863E handsout of his current range$ Gust likeou discount @%o when a nit is inthe hand! ou discount 77 when amaniac limps. A likel range here isgoing to be the difference betweenthe two ranges! or Ian unsuited

    ace! Ps or worse! Po or worse!Ts or worse.I That5s a much easierrange to pla against. Be sure towatch this opponent5s showdownhands! howe:er FF ou5d reall liketo know if our assumption abouthim raising the top %(O of hisrange is correct or not. +f ou ha:ea trick opponent who raises hismiddle %(O and limps the top ;(Oand bottom ;(O! our range will be

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    significantl wrong! and ou5ll be ina good deal of trouble with ourhand reading. 6ne huge word ofwarning$ people often look at aplaer5s M*+* and conclude that theplaer is a loose idiot. Then the callhis raise and are shocked when thefind out at showdown that he had

    rockets. Remember! if ou areraised preflop b a '??! he hasroughl the same hand range aswhen ou5re raised b a ;%?. on5tmistake his tpical preflop loosenesswith a wide range when he raises....

    %ostflop aggression$ after theflop! a new game begins. *eopleoften make the mistake of assumingthat a tight preflop plaer is tightpostflop! or that an aggressi:epreflop plaer is aggressi:e postflop.This can onl be disco:ered bobser:ation. + will tell ou thate:er combination of preflop andpostflop plastles is possible! andnone are terribl uncommon. Thetrue TATA "tightFaggressi:e preflop!tightFaggressi:e postflop) and #*#*"calling station pre and post) is onlone form of opponent. Another :ercommon plaer is the TA#A$ alwasaggressi:e and solidl tight preflop!this opponent plas hands so

    infreJuentl that when he findssomething FF AN/T8+N FF that he5swilling to pla preflop he cannotbring himself to let it go. 8e turnsinto a maniac postflop! reling onfolding eJuit and a better startinghand range to win mone. Anothercommon plaer is the T*TA! whogoes from nit preflop to aggroFmonke postflop. +f the miss!the5re out of the hand! but if thehit the hand the5re going to

    hammer e:er street and tr to getallFin b the showdown. #esscommon at uN#! but increasinglcommon at higher le:els "anddeadlFdangerous when the do itright) is the #*TA$ this plaer is atotal calling station idiot preflop./ou5ll often see preflop numbers of@?;; or '' for these folks. on5tfall for itH +t5s a ruse. These folks aresplashing around in as man pots as

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    the can as cheapl as the can!and then postflop the pla *6PER.The5ll be folding a tremendousfraction of the time on the flop!escaping for ; BB! but when the hitit will be with something sneakFasFhell and solidFsolidFsolid. Thethen go into aggro mode! betting

    incredibl hard and reling onunobser:ant TAs to call them downlighter because Ihe! this idiot is@%@! m T*=P dominates hisrange.I The stack more TAs thanou and + could e:er hope to!because their image gets them madphat postflop action. 3o the rule is$postflop is a new gameL expectpeople to pla a different stlepostflop from preflop! and tr toJuickl figure out B6T8 of thesestles.

    Now! once we5re on the flop andbeond we need to use a:erageaggression and postflop tightness todecide what a plaer5s holdings are!refining our original range based ontheir preflop pla. This leads us tothe third commandment$

    6/ 5now t)y board/

    lops ha:e different Itextures!I andthose textures can be much more ormuch less scar! depending on ourholdings and our opponent5s range.,ore importantl! different peoplerespond in different was todifferent board textures. 6n adrawFhea: board! if a loose andaggressi:e plaer is checkFcallingou can expect him to ha:e thenearFnuts! but if a loose and passi:eplaer is checkFcalling ou can

    expect him to ha:e ... well! andamn thing. 4hat affects thetexture of a boardD 4ell! let5s startwith the flop.

    S"itedness$ flops can comeIrainbowI "three different suits)!ItwoFsuitedI "two of one suit andone of another)! or ImonochromeI"all three cards in the same suit).The more IsuitedI a flop is! the

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    bigger the hand most opponents willneed to call. 8owe:er! note thatman hperaggressi:e opponentswill be more likel to bet out! checkFraise! or IfloatI "smoothFcall on theflop with the intent of taking the poton the turn) with either a pure bluffor a semiFbluff "draw) on these

    tpes of boards. +f ou are first toact! ou can often steal these potsfor a reasonabl small "%=rdsFpot)betL if ou are called! beware of theflush drawH 6ne small bit of math$let5s sa that the flop comes withthree spades and ou ha:e none inour hand. The odds that oursingle opponent flopped a madeflush are =.=O and the odds that heflopped a flush RA4 are ;?.O. +fou5:e hit a solid hand "sa! T*TP)6 N6T *AN+C AN 3TARTCA##+NH Bet out and protectagainst the draw that is >.@? timesmore likel than the made flush thathas ou killed. Besides! if ouropponent actuall has a secondFbesthand! he5ll be more likel to pa offa bet on a monochrome flop than hewill to pa off a bet when the turnhas 6R spades "assuming hedoesn5t ha:e one). Bet while ourhand is best and charge him well totr and outdraw ou. +ncidentall! if

    our board has three spades andou ha:e one in our hand! the oddsthat our opponent has two spadesdrops to %.'O and the odds that hehas one spade drops to ;>.>O! sothe odds that our opponent isdrawing to a flush are now ?.' timeshigher than the odds that he floppedthe monster. Bet and protectH

    (onne'tedness$ here we5re talkingabout how man cards to a straight

    the board has. A monochrome flopof FTF is ,C8 more dangerousthan a monochrome flop of F@F%.Alwas be aware of straight draws FFthe5re a goldFmine to the sa::poker plaer because so manpeople miss them. 4hen the flopcomes AFPF7! the plaer holding TsGust stacked the preflop raiserholding AP. 4hen the board isconnected! ou need to beware of

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    two separate possibilities$ ouropponent might ha:e two pair andour opponent might ha:e anopenFended straight draw. 6ften!two pair is the scarier e:ent!because our weakFbutFmade handis often drawing :er thin against it.A straight draw can become an

    almost unbeatable monster! but ithas to ET there first. Two pair isalread there. At small stakesgames! man plaers will pla :erpassi:el with a draw! checkcallingin the hopes of impro:ing! but thewill pla aggressi:el with two pair./our more aggressi:e opponents willbet B6T8 hands strongl. 4hensomeone plas back at ou on afairl connected board! ou need todecide if the5re likel drawing or ifinstead the5:e flopped somepowerhouse hand. Then ou5llproceed based on the strength ofour hand in relation to the rangeou think is likel for ouropponent. ,uch like a suited board!a connected board can often be usedas a powerful bluffing orsemibluffing tool. 3a our =(;;=opponent raises preflop from ,* andou call in position with ==.8eadsFup! the flop comes @F'F?.This is a REA##/ good flop for attack

    aggressi:el$ considering ouropponent5s stats! the raise makeso:ercards much more likel thanusual! so the odds that this flop hascompletel missed our opponentare higher than usual. A flop raiseor a flop float can pro:e extremel:aluable to ou. +n this analsis +5mcompletel ignoring our insidestraight draw FF that5s :irtuallworthless since it5s highl unlikel tohappen and also highl unlikel to

    get paid in an significant wa bour opponent while still being thebest hand. No! +5m saing that thisflop is a good one for ou because itis unlikel to ha:e impro:ed ouropponent in an meaningful wa.*ressing back hard should win outhis pot Juite often 4+T86Tgetting to a showdown.

    ,ig) (ard 7al"e$ our opponents

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    lo:e plaing high cards. 3ure!ou5:e outgrown calling raises withPo and Ao "ou 8AME outgrownthat! rightD) but the ha:en5t.*laing these easilFdominatedhands will pro:e :er expensi:e forour inattenti:e opponents! butreali-e this general rule$ a flop that

    is highFcard hea: is much morelikel to ha:e connected with ouropposition than a flop that ishighFcard light. +f an ace hits theboard in a multiFwa pot and + don5tha:e AT #EA3T A7! +5m usuall donewith the hand. 6pponents lo:enothing more than plaing aces! andwhen those aces hit the board ouropponents will hang on to their aceslike the were made out of solidgold. 4orse et! a pair of aces witha ForFworse kicker is going to be inoodles of trouble unless that kickerconnects! too. Think about this$

    sa ou ha:e A on an aceFhighboard. The next highest board cardis a T. +f one other plaer has anace! what are the odds that his handbeats oursD 4ell! AP and A7ob:iousl ha:e ou outkicked! andthe unlikel AA has ou decimated.

    8owe:er! there are four 6T8ER aces

    that beat ou FF the ones that ha:emade two pair. That means ou5rebehind about as often as ou5reahead in this situation! and that5se:en assuming that our opponentIonlI has an aceH /ou throw in theother random twoFpair and sethands and our hand will win atshowdown less than half the time.4orse et! most opponents will getthe message and fold their aces withweak kickers! but the5re unlikel to

    fold an hand that beats ou. Theodds are that if ou somehow createa big pot! ou5re e:en ,6RE likelto be behind. +n short! proceed withgreat caution on aceFhigh boards!e:en if ou ha:e an ace. Ping highboards are prett dangerous! too!because the looser opponents willpla man kings! especiall suitedones. 75s and 5s are less scar as aplaer5s high card! but MER/

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    dangerous as a plaer5s #64 card.3omeone willing to pla Po preflopis :irtuall ne:er going to fold thathand on a Fhigh flop.

    Recogni-e that the odds that ouropponent has missed the board arehighest on lowFcard boards! and

    much lower when the board hashigh cards. This is especiall true ifthe board has more than 6NE highcard. 6ne maGor exception to thisrule$ if ou RA+3E preflop! don5tgi:e up when the flop comes with ahigh card! especiall if that highcard is an ace.

    This is a fantastic chance to stealthe pot. 3tatisticall speaking!:irtuall an opponent ou couldface has a lessFthanF?(O chance ofha:ing an ace in this situation! but ifou bet the flop the will assumeou 6 ha:e one. A standardcontinuation bet will win the pot asurprisingl large fraction of thetime. +f the pla back! fold andmo:e on to the next hand.

    %aired Boards$ usuall! a pairedboard is a cause for celebration.4hD Because with an unpairedboard there are nine separate cards

    in the unseen deck that could gi:ean opponent a pair. 8owe:er! with a*A+RE board! that number falls toonl +ME cards. +n other words! it5snow almost ?(O less likel that anopponent has made a hand goodenough to want to continue. /oushould use this against them if it isreasonable for ou to do so. ,indou! if ou limped preflop and theboard is AAP! ou can usuallcheckFfold! because our opponent

    is not going to belie:e that ou ha:ethe goods.

    8owe:er! if ou raised preflop andthe board comes > a bet in aheadsFup pot is :irtuall,ANAT6R/$ our opponent willreali-e he5s missed! assume ouha:e a pocket pair! and fold e:enmore often than he would fold to atpical continuation bet. *aired

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    boards are perfect for continuingpreflop aggression. Also! reali-e thatmost aggressi:e plaers know this!so if ou happen to be in a pot thatsomeone else raised! the flop comespaired and ou5:e got a sneakmonster! consider a slowpla like aflop checkFraise or e:en a

    Icheckcall flop! checkraise turn.I/our aggressi:e targets will fire off acontinuation bet Juite often! andou can then Isnap off a bluffI andwin a bigger pot than ou otherwisewould. 6b:iousl! this will beopponentFspecific! but keep ourees peeled for such opportunities.

    6n the turn and ri:er! similar issueswith connectedness! suitedness!high card :alue! and board pairs willcontinue to pertain! and will definethe ItextureI of the board. As ageneral rule! a tight opponent willcontinue on IwetI "highlcoordinated) boards when he has astrong hand or a strong draw! but aloose opponent ma continue withas little as top pair. An aggressi:eopponent can bet IwetI boards witha draw! a Icombination drawI"straight and flush)! or a pairQdraw!and ma e:en bet these boards on apure bluff. A passi:e opponent

    betting into a IwetI board usuallhas the goods FF these folks rarelbet their draws. Now! to start to putthis all together! let5s mo:e on tothe next rule$

    8/ 5now t)y )and )istory/

    8ere we5re discussing how thisparticular hand has plaed out$ whobet when and how muchD 3tart

    looking for betting patterns! asdifferent people will ha:e differentpatterns. A few general issues$

    ()e'kraises$ when an opponentcheckFraises! he is sending themessage that his hand is unusuallpowerful. 8e knows ou are bettingand he doesn5t care. 4hat5s more!he was confident enough to riskour checking behind in his Juest to

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    get more mone in the pot. Thesetpes of bets will usuall mean oneof three things$ either ouropponent was monsterousl strongand slowplaed an earlier street! orthe last card Gust helped ouropponent in some wa! or he isbluffing in a situation where he

    thinks he can scare ou off ourhand. As a general rule! trust checkFraises from passi:e plaers.Completel. +f ou don5t ha:e asneak ,6N3TER "and + mean,6N3TER with a capitalUe:erthingU) ou should be foldingto this raise. *eople often ask Ican +e:er escape from pocket acesDI Thiswould be one situation whereescaping would be eas. Anothergeneral rule is that the moreaggressi:e a plaer is! the morelikel a checkFraise is a bluff. +would sa that until an opponenthas an aggression factor of at least% ou shouldn5t worr much about acheckFraise semiFbluff! and until hehas an aggression factor of at least> ou shouldn5t worr much about acheckFraise bluff. *eople are :erJuick to put a plaer on a bluff whenhe checkFraisesL + belie:e this e:entis much rarer than most peoplethink. 6ne ca:eat to this$ checkF

    raises on the flop are far more likelto be bluffs or weak hands thancheckFraises on AN/ other street.6n the flop! people will often take acheckFraise line against a freJuentcFbettor! e:en with hands likeIbottom pair! no kickerI becausethe know that their opponent willfreJuentl ha:e pure air. 3o$ acheckFraise on the flop usuallmeans I+ can beat aceFhigh!I but acheckFraise on a later street usuall

    means I+ can beat /6.I

    ()e'k'alls$ this pla is highlplaerFspecific. Against a passi:ecalling station this means I+ ha:etwo cards. #ookH 3pades are prett.+ like pie.I Against a tight andmoderatel aggressi:e plaer thisoften means I+5m on a draw.IAgainst a highl aggressi:e plaerthis often means I+ ha:e a monster

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    and +5m going to let ou bet ourselfto death.I CheckFcalls areprecursors to checkFraises on laterstreets from :er aggressi:eplaersL from :er passi:e plaers!the Gust precede more checkFcalls.

    &onkbets$ a IdonkbetI is when

    someone who does N6T ha:e thebetting lead makes an unexpectedbet. or instance! if a plaer calledour preflop raise but then leadsinto ou on the flop! that would be adonkbet. 3imilarl! if a plaer callsour flop bet but then leads on theturn! that would also be a donkbet.At these stages! a donkbet should beinterpreted as saing Ithat cardhelped me.I The more passi:e ouropponent! the more straightforwardthis interpretation is. 4hen apassi:e plaer comes ali:e on athird straight card! or a fourth flushcard! or a pairing of the board! orsome oddFlooking random card! oushould expect that the card hashelped his hand out and he is now:alueFbetting. 6f course! how stronghis hand is remains to be seen! butthe card has impro:ed him. on5texpect that this means he has thenuts$ +5:e seen passi:e plaers wakeup and bet the fourth

    heart...because it ga:e them twopair. 6n the other hand! :eraggressi:e plaers lo:e to donkbeton scare cards. This is a cheaperbluff than a checkFraise but it worksGust as often at these le:els! andman aggressi:e plaers will takead:antage of a turn ace or athirdfourth club! or a board pair totr and steal the pot. Be aware ofthis.

    Unepe'ted ')e'ks$ a plaer whohas been betting steadil in thehand suddenl starts to check. 4hatdoes this meanD 4ell! one ob:iousinterpretation is that he has beenbluffing and has now gi:en up onthe hand. ,ost plaers arestraightforward enough that this willbe the case. Against a mediumFaggressi:e opponent! this will oftenbe a good opportunit to bet with

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    an two cards! since our foldingeJuit will be throughFtheFroof.Another common situation is that aplaer flops a decent hand FF sa toppair on a TFhigh board FF and thenslows wa down when the turnbrings a P. The are worried aboutthe o:erpair! and so ha:e stopped

    betting. That does not necessarilmean the are read to foldL someplaers will go from bettingraisingto checkcalling all the wa toshowdown. 8owe:er! when anaggressi:e plaer stops beingaggressi:e! that5s usuall a sign thatour situation is not as dire as outhought it was. Beware of thehperaggressi:e opponent whounexpectedl checks! E3*EC+A##/ ifhe checkcalls a scare card. orsome reason! these plaers ha:etaken the Istrong S weak! weak SstrongI philosoph to heart! and willoften bet with little or nothing butimmediatel slowpla the momentthe get a hand. 4atch ouropponents carefull to see if theturn check usuall means the aregi:ing up or if it usuall means theare trapping ou.

    Bet')e'kbet$ a strangeFlookingbut rather common threeFstreet line

    is Ibet the flop! check behind on theturn! bet the ri:er!I where theopponent has checkcalled the wholewa. Against an aggressi:eopponent! this ri:er bet is oftenwhat we call a Idesperation bluff.IThe hand has no showdown :alue sothe :illain bets in the hopes thatou will fold the best hand. 3inceou5:e shown little or no strengththe whole hand through! the feelthe ha:e strong folding eJuit

    "which is true)! and the are nowattacking in a lastFditch effort toscoop up the pot. 8owe:er! ouneed to be aware of what the boardlooked like. Another commonreasoning behind this line is that theflop bet was with nothing! the turnga:e the opponent a draw! and theri:er either made the draw ormissed. +f an ob:ious draw arri:edon the end! ou would reall need to

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    know more about our opponentbefore ou knew if this was a bluffor not. Calling against someopponents will be extremel QEMe:en with bottom pairL against otheropponents it will be FEM withanthing short of a powerhouse.Again! watch our opponents and

    take notes on what their lines mean.

    6ur fifth and final commandmentties in to e:erthing we5:e alreaddiscussed$

    9/ 5now t)y i#age/

    I+mageI is how the other plaers atthe table percei:e /6. Againstsome opponents! this will be the:er most important commandment.Against others! it will not matter atall. +t all depends on how attenti:eour particular opponent is. 8ow dowe start to figure out our imageD

    Only worry abo"t i#age wit)se'ondlevel t)inkers/or someof ou! this is our first segue intothirdFle:el thinking. irstFle:elthinking is asking! Iwhat is mhandDI 3econdFle:el thinking isasking! Iwhat is m opponent5s

    handDI ThirdFle:el thinking isasking! Iwhat does m opponentthink m hand isDI 6b:iouslthirdFle:el thinking is irrele:antagainst a firstFle:el thinker.8owe:er! most opponents will atleast make some token effort toguess our hand! so against ourbetter opponents understandingour image will be important. 4henou ha:e a complete idiot whone:er looks past his own hand while

    plaing the game! don5t worr aboutimage FF ou5ll Gust be wasting ourtime and effort.

    :o"r 'ards only affe't yo"ri#age w)en yo" S,O; t)e#/+nthe last fi:e straight hands ou5:ehad AA! P7 "flopped trips)! 77! T"flopped straight)! and ?? "floppedset). /ou won all fi:e hands beforeshowdown! and ou ne:er show

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    our hands without being forced todo so. Recogni-e that our tableimage is now absolute CRA*. /es!ou had the goods. 3ure! ourhands were actuall powerhouses.6f course! our starting handselection is tight. None of thatmatters. All our opponents ha:e

    seen is ou betting and raisinge:er hand. The doubt ou! andthe5re :er Juickl going to getsick of our crap and start lookingou up. This is N6T the time to getcute with 7s or == FF this is thetime to pla sJueakFclean poker astight as ou know how.Alternati:el! if each of those fi:ewent to showdown and oudisplaed to the table ourpowerhouse winners! our foldingeJuit will be 8+8ER than usual!because people will begin to belie:ethat ou don5t get in:ol:ed with ahand unless ou5:e got the goods.Be aware of this.

    3e'ent )istory #atters #oret)an an'ient )istory/Mer few ofour opponents actuall ha:e *okerTracker. As a result! their image ofou will be determined b their ownpersonal obser:ations. ,ost peopleha:e a relati:el short memor! so

    concentrate most on our actions inthe last two orbits. +f our tableimage has fallen apart and ourbluffs ha:e gotten picked off se:eraltimes in a row! tighten up and foldfor the next two orbits FF in thatshort period of time ou will rebuildmost or all of our table image andou can then go back to doing ournast deeds. Con:ersel! if ou5:ebeen at the table for three hoursplaing a ;% game but ou5:e

    gotten in:ol:ed in ;( of the last ;%hands! people will think of ou as amaniac! and pla back at ou withall sorts of crap. +t5s the recenthistor that counts! so rememberhow our last two orbits looked atthe table.

    %ersonal )istory #atters #oret)an table )istory/A plaer manot remember that ou bluffed 3eat

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    = off his hand fi:e times in a row!but he 4+## remember that oubluffed 8+, off his hand once anhour and a half ago. *eople ha:emuch longer memories for handsthat in:ol:ed them personall. +fou stole a plaer5s big blind threetimes in the last four orbits! he5s

    going to know that! and he5s goingto pla back at ou with anreasonabl strong hand. /our foldingeJuit on a steal will be particularllow against 8+,! but won5t be low atall against the other plaers at thetable.

    Opponents will "s"ally ass"#et)at yo"r lines always #ean t)esa#e t)ing/+f ou bet =>ths poton a ri:er scare card with the nutflush! then the next time ou are ina pot against that opponent and theri:er comes with a threeFflush "notours)! bet =>ths potH /our foldingeJuit will be tremendous.Alternati:el! if the flush card +help ou! bet a +ERENT amountFF push all our chips in! or bet ;%pot! or do something else. 4hen ouwant a call! don5t do what ou didthe last time he saw ou with thenuts. 4hen ou want a fold! doexactl what ou did the last time

    he saw ou with the nuts. *eoplewill remember these things.

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    + reali-e this post is longer thane:en ,/ usual posts! but handreading is a trick! subtle!complicated! and e:erFchangingconcept. 8opefull! this material willhelp ou do a better Gob of readinghands at the table. As long and

    detailed as this is! know that + amGust gi:ing ou the tip of theiceberg! here. Experience and studwill help ou to understand the restof it.

    pdoran4*osts$ %;?>#oc$ calling with the nuts

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    wh would ou write all ofthisD

    4h do ou careD

    +ts ob:iousl helpful to man peopleon the forum and *oke had the

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    time and desire to write it.

    +m sure most people! unlikeourself! gain something fromreading it.

    o hate elsewhere.

    bozzer*oohFBah

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    + Gust fainted. +s tlLdr e:en a GokehereD #ooking forward to reading itH

    opti#"s>pri#eenthusiast

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    im sure itll be a great post as soonas i get around to reading it. tanksin ad:ance

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    amn *oke! incredible N8

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    Nice post poke but one aside onthe different le:els of thinking.According to 3klansk in N#8TA*!Xero le:el thinking is when ou onl

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    think about our hand! ;st le:elthinking is when ou think aboutour opponents hand and what hema ha:e and %nd le:el thinking iswhat ou think our opponentsthink ou ma ha:e.

    6ther than that! great post.

    .&5old hand

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    thanks for this pokeH

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    antastic postH +5m Gust learning N#after being a long time limiFdonk!alread m hand reading hasimpro:ed dramaticall and + think

    this guide will make it e:en better.

    silly>#onkeymember

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    4hat do ou think about passi:eplaers making weak flop donkbetsD

    + think this almost alwas means aweak one pair hand and + find that araise nearl alwas picks up the pot.

    )o#esli'e:eteran

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    *oke! that5s awfull generous ofou...Thank /ou

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    Bookmarked! printed! lo:ed itH

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    Thankou *oke! et another greatpost. Another example of wh ouare probabl the best uN#33N#poster.

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    *oke5s selflessness ne:er ceases toama-e me. + ha:en5t read all thiset! but gi:en theimportancedifficult ofhandFreading! this post shouldbecome a classic.

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    Thanks *oke.

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    ust finished reading! great post./ou rock. *eriod.

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    As soon as + saw the subGect title!and saw that the author was noneother than *oke! + went and pouredmself a coffee! told the wife and kidthat +5m bus for awhile! and satdown and thoroughl enGoed thisarticle. ust like a great chapter in a%Q% book! me thinks +5ll bere:isiting this post a few times. Nice

    work and thank ou.

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    /ou ha:e outdone ourself. 8ow do +subscribe to our newsletterD

    dank"smember

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    Compelling and rich.

    Edited by dankus (01/02/07 02:13 PM)

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    + think poke Gust added anotherBB;(( to m winrate . . .

    ThankouH

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    Mer nice *okeH

    + presume this will get stickiedrightD

    Bowlboyold hand

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    *oke! ou5:e alread done enoughbut could + possibl ask ou toelaborate somewhat on a plaersrange of hands according to

    position. e.g! :illain with =(O :pipand ;?O *R! raises in ,* asopposed to 6TB or T. Theseranges could be narrowed downfurther b taking :illains positioninto account. AnsubFcommandmentguidelines forthat aside from assuming theirrange is slightl wider 6TB andnarrower TD + suppose in uN# thismabe irrele:eant for a lot of

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    :illains with fishier stats as thearent reall positionall aware butstill useful for a:erage tags noD

    Man')ild?8old hand

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    *rinted it out. ;( pages. +mpressi:e.

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    a:orite TopicH "toggle)

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    Nice postH 6ne Juick addition$

    or a reasonable plaer the bet!check behind! bet pattern can be potcontrol Q :alue bet rather thanmissed draw. + do this often. Catchsomething like T*TP! bet flop! checkbehind on turn for pot control andthen :alue bet the ri:er when :illainchecks.

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    /*.Now the tables will be filled withexcellent handFreaders who willraise me off m T*P e:er singletime.

    IThanksI *oke.

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    Nice postH 6ne Juick addition$

    or a reasonable plaer thebet! check behind! bet patterncan be pot control Q :alue betrather than missed draw. + dothis often. Catch somethinglike T*TP! bet flop! checkbehind on turn for pot controland then :alue bet the ri:erwhen :illain checks.

    ...also perfect for inducing a bluff.

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    3potFon. 4ell doneH

    "+gnoring the Juibble about theexact definition of %ndFle:elthinking! of course.)

    7uote$

    As long and detailed as this is!know that + am Gust gi:ing outhe tip of the iceberg! here.

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    /ep! and all ou ha:e to do isinternali-e all of this plus lots more!and put it into practice plaing 'Qtables for hours on end! and hardle:er make big mistakes! and /6T66 can make EX ,6N+EX as a

    poker professionalHH

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    too short! not detailed enough.

    4here are the practical techniJuesfor holding ranges in our headD

    4here is the strateg for plaingagainst le:el (.? thinkers "whoalwas put ou on AP after a preflopraise)! or le:el ;.? thinkers! "whothink ou alwas put them on AP)D3urel that should ha:e beenincluded in section ?! subparagraph; HHHH

    4here is the discussion of Baes5Theorum! and how to appl it on

    each street gi:en the newinformation we ha:e gatheredD

    i:en it5s limited scope! a fairl

    decent post.

    %okey*rett much the bestposter e:er

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    Because sometimes the worlddoesn5t re:ol:e around me. +5:elearned most of what + know aboutpoker from %Q%! and + enGo gi:ingback to the communit that hasgi:en me so much.

    Speedli#itssaid$

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    Nice post poke but one asideon the different le:els ofthinking. According to3klansk in N#8TA*! Xerole:el thinking is when ou onlthink about our hand! ;stle:el thinking is when outhink about our opponentshand and what he ma ha:eand %nd le:el thinking is whatou think our opponents think

    ou ma ha:e.

    /eah! + was also Juite surprised that3klansk got that wrong.

    silly>#onkeysaid$

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    4hat do ou think aboutpassi:e plaers making weak

    flop donkbetsD + think thisalmost alwas means a weakone pair hand and + find that araise nearl alwas picks upthe pot.

    As + mentioned somewhere in thatmonster! donkbets on the flopusuall mean I+ can beat aceFhigh.I4hether that! in turn! means thatou can easil steal the pot with araise! or whether ou5ll need to floatit out to the turn! or if that meansthat he5s going to call ou down allthe wa to showdown with his crap!will all be plaerFspecific. + can5tstress enough the :alue of watchingour opponents to tr and spot theirpersonal Juirks and habits. As aMER/ ENERA# rule +5d sa that aflop donkbet from a passi:e plaer isusuall weak! because the tend to

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    slowpla their monsters with eithera checkFraise or a checkFcall.4hether the will then RE#EA3Etheir small hand can onl beanswered on a caseFbFcase basis.

    Bowlboysaid$

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    could + possibl ask ou toelaborate somewhat on aplaers range of handsaccording to position. e.g!:illain with =(O :pip and ;?O*R! raises in ,* as opposedto 6TB or T.

    +n general! + think ou hit the nailon the head when ou said that thisdoesn5t matter much at uN#. ormost uN# plaers! Ao T S Ao onthe button S Ao. *ositionalawareness is a more ad:anced skilland it5s beond most of the uN#opponents ou will face. The twoexceptions to this rule would beblind stealing and T. ,ost plaersknow to pla Ia bit tighterI T!and so don5t limp as much AN6N5T RA+3E A3 ,C8 from T.3imilarl! some plaers are aware

    enough to tr and steal blinds whenthe are in late position. Beondthat! howe:er! + don5t rememberman plaers who had much in thewa of positional awareness. 4henou spot a plaer who +3positionall aware! +5d make a noteon them about it FF that5s usefulinformation. At that point! adGustour numbers accordingl FF a limpor raise from T will be somewhatstronger than their usual range

    indicates! and a limp or raise from#* will be somewhat weaker. on5texpect a monumental difference!howe:er FF it5s going to be mabeplusForFminus ?O.

    .liasMr@onessaid$

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    or a reasonable plaer thebet! check behind! bet pattern

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    can be pot control Q :alue betrather than missed draw.

    /es! but + wrote this guide for uN#!and there is a remarkable lack ofIreasonable plaersI in the pool./our line is a strong one! :er:aluable! effecti:e! and usefulbecause it5s so nonFstandard. 3implput! our line works because normalplaers would ne:er think to pla ahand that wa.

    ti'kssaid$

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    o everyone else$

    Thanks for the feedback! and +5mglad ou5:e enGoed it.

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    4ow! great postH efinitel the mosthelpful one created since +5:e been amember.

    Can we add this to the stickD

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    *oke.

    ,ore so than usual.

    )ig)er>energymember

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    m first response was not what itseems

    all i was tring to sa is that thiswas a :er comrehensi:e guide andthat 6* definetl put a ton of timeinto this.

    its Gust rare to find something likethis on the internet.also! seeing that the learning cur:ein poker is :er steep! b postingthis poke is teaching a lot of thingsto a number of people that browsethis forum...

    bet)eballstranger

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    Absolutel greatH

    +5m a ' max limit plaertransistioning to K%? nl. +5:e reallstruggled with a plaing stle in nl. +was %@;? to =;%; %.?F=.? limit.+5:e found mself plaing ;==(;.?,uch more passi:e preflop tring tosee flops cheap andtrappaggressi:e postflop.

    Thank ou! this will helptremendousl preFflop and post flopespeciall with when to put thebrakes on.

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    Sir ;inalot*oohFBah

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    reat stuff *oke! thanks for

    making this.

    $earning("rveold hand

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    +5m certain this will be useful toe:erone! but to a noob like mself!this is ANTA3T+C. Thank ou!*okeH

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    wh would ou write all ofthisD

    Ban this idiot.

    *okeFThanks for taking the time. Asalwas! instant classic.

    Sir ;inalot*oohFBah

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    m first response was not

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    perkele what it seems

    all i was tring to sa is thatthis was a :er comrehensi:eguide and that 6* definetl puta ton of time into this.its Gust rare to find somethinglike this on the internet.also! seeing that the learningcur:e in poker is :er steep!

    b posting this poke isteaching a lot of things to anumber of people that browsethis forum...

    3o ou sa he shouldn5t ha:ewritten this so that the random fishwon5t learnD Eat our head.

    %otatoStewaddict

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    reat postH 6ne Juestion thoughabout the *R Isliding scale$

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    a passi:e preflop plaer has a*R under a Juarter of their

    M*+*. That means that this is afloating scale$ while ;(O *Ris passi:e for a plaer who hasa M*+* of ??O! it is aggressi:efor a plaer who has a M*+* of;?O.

    4h does it matter how *R relatesto M*+*D +n either case! the plaer israising ;(O of his hands. 4h is aloose plaer who raises ;(O of his

    hands considered less aggressi:ethan a tight plaer who raises ;(Oof his handsD

    + would think the would beconsidered eJuall aggressi:e! or ina sense the loose plaer is moreaggressi:e because the sheernumber of hands he5s raising ishigher than the tighter plaer.

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    As#ereldaaddict

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    Thank ou for a :er helpful post!and Gust the subGect + am working onat the moment.

    + get somewhat differentpercentages for the monotone flop.+f ou don5t ha:e an of the suit:illain has a made flush ";(>@)">') S (.(>% or >.%O of the timeand he no cards of the suit"=@>@)"='>') S (.';' or ';.'O of thetime. 8e has a flush draw the

    remaining =>.%O of the time.

    This Gust makes our point stronger!he is plaing flush draw times asoften as a made flush and oushould definitel bet on this boardoften.

    Ba)"nyGourneman

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    This post is ama-ing

    %okey*rett much the bestposter e:er

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    4h does it matter how *Rrelates to M*+*D +n either case!the plaer is raising ;(O of hishands. 4h is a loose plaerwho raises ;(O of his hands

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    considered less aggressi:ethan a tight plaer who raises;(O of his handsD

    +n a sense! ou5re absolutel right$giventhat a plaer has raisedpreflop! it doesn5t matter too muchwhether he5s a '(;( or a ;?;("other than a '(;( is probabl aninferior plaer! and therefore morelikel to make bigger postflopmistakes). 8owe:er! the differencebetween a passi:e and anaggressi:e plaer is huge when theplaer is still to act. Another bigdifference comes when ou getREraised FF a '(;( probablthreeFbets less often than a ;?;(!because a '(;(5s natural

    inclination would be to smoothFcall.A ;?;( has an aggressi:e mindsetand beha:es accordinglL a '(;(has a passi:e mindset. Thedifferences are subtle! butimportant.

    As#ereldasaid$

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    + get somewhat differentpercentages for the monotoneflop. +f ou don5t ha:e an ofthe suit :illain has a madeflush ";(>@)">') S (.(>% or>.%O of the time and he nocards of the suit"=@>@)"='>')S (.';' or ';.'O of the time.8e has a flush draw theremaining =>.%O of the time.

    /ou5re absolutel right! and +absolutel screwed that one up.

    Thanks FF that was a good catch.

    Oranzit)U

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    i got one of the logitech mice withthe free spin wheel! and this post isawesome for it.

    also! this post is AQQQQ in general.*erfect timing for me after droppingse:eral buins esterda. w((tH

    pineapple???Carpal V5Tunnel

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    As#ereldasaid$

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    + get somewhatdifferentpercentages for themonotone flop. +fou don5t ha:e anof the suit :illain hasa made flush";(>@)">') S(.(>% or >.%O of thetime and he nocards of thesuit"=@>@)"='>') S(.';' or ';.'O ofthe time. 8e has aflush draw theremaining =>.%O ofthe time.

    /ou5re absolutel right! and +absolutel screwed that oneup. Thanks FF that was a goodcatch.

    4ell! the thing is + think oubackdoored our wa to a moreuseful number somehow! because

    Millain isn5t gonna treat his % orwhate:er as a useful flush card! ingeneral. 3o if ou sa Ibroadwaflush drawI or IQ flush drawI +think ou5d be close with ouroriginal number which meshed wellwith m intuition. 3omebod lessla- than me! feel free to do the

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    exact math.

    dodgybobenthusiast

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    As alwas *oke! ama-ing post.i:e up whate:er our da Gob is!write a book.

    3o"temember

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    Thanks *oke! +5:e been looking forsomething like this.

    7uote$

    i:e up whate:er our da Gobis! write a book.

    Can + preForderD

    kerpl"nkN$the mercenar

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    Medrakilmember

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    + felt i ha:e somehow de:eloped asomewhat similar understanding

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    mself! but to ha:e it put into exactwords b a good plaer and writerwas still :er helpful.

    excellent post.

    t"rboC"ngeenthusiast

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    Awesome. Thanks a lot *okeH

    &ans !"llmember

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    reat post *oke...as usual. +f thereis a newsletter! ship itH

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    turboGunge1 '>((%( F (;(=(@(@$= A,

    *oke! that was awful anduninteresting. /ou should beashamed of ourself.

    6ka! fine! +5m Gust Gealous of howwell ou explain the intricacies ofthis game. Mer well done sir! it is:er thoughtful of ou to write

    these.

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    8app Birthda! ,edrakilH

    !reddy?Dmember

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    *oke for president

    This not onl helped me to read mopponents but F and probabl moreimportantl F showed me! how easil

    i can be read.

    Thanks for it.

    #"nkeyA model citi-en

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    *oke

    /ou seem to ha:e a natural talentfor putting across important pokerideas clearl and detailed. + don5tknow how ou manage to repeatedlcome out with these long greatposts.

    4+4 + was plaing esterda andsome dude used the earlier analsison me "thought ut loud in chat) +

    wonder if he read this first F onlproblem he didn5t understandsample si-e of =( hands and

    assumed + was a *R maniac

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    Nh poke... :er nice handH

    ,ig)nenthusiast

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    nice post! as usual *oke! thanks

    kazanafree at last

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    *oke ftw.

    0laudation mode$ ENAB#E1+5m a big fan of all our "countless)tlLdrs.This one is officiall m new % inthe IBest of *okeI collection

    "although it still might ha:e a run at;$ 3tealing).

    Thanks for doing all these greatposts specificall geared towardshelping uN# plaers.This is something we can5t F andshouldn5t F take for granted! sincemost brilliant plaers either mo:e tohigher stakes sooner rather thanlater or don5t bother to share theirinsights "probabl la-iness combinedwith a lack of expressing themsel:eseffecti:el being the maGor culprits).

    +5:e learned man of those pointsmself b paing generous amountsof tuition BBs to the ni:ersit of6nline *oker! but there are a fewimportant blank spots ou5:e filledin with that post.

    Thanks again for doing this.0laudation mode$ +3AB#E1

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    / r u not writing a bookD

    #onkoverne:er gonna get a customtitle

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    This is long to ou reall expect usto read thisD

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    This is long to ou reallexpect us to read thisD

    o awa

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    This is long to ou reallexpect us to read thisD

    + hope ou don5t! and + look forward

    to plaing against ou.

    reat post! *oke. Thanks.

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    reat post! thanks.

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    8and reading is b far the biggest

    hole in m game. Thanks for this.

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    Thanks for the post *oke! insightfrom good plaers is alwas :er:aluable. + will surel be rereadingthisH

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    #ess common at uN#! butincreasingl common at higherle:els "and deadlFdangerouswhen the do it right) is the#*TA$ this plaer is a totalcalling station idiot preflop./ou5ll often see preflopnumbers of @?;; or '' for

    these folks. on5t fall for itH+t5s a ruse. These folks aresplashing around in as manpots as the can as cheapl asthe can! and then postflopthe pla *6PER. The5ll befolding a tremendous fractionof the time on the flop!escaping for ; BB! but whenthe hit it will be withsomething sneakFasFhell andsolidFsolidFsolid. The then gointo aggro mode! bettingincredibl hard and reling on

    unobser:ant TAs to call themdown lighter because Ihe!this idiot is @%@! m T*=Pdominates his range.I Thestack more TAs than ou and+ could e:er hope to! becausetheir image gets them madphat postflop action.

    +nteresting. oes anone here pla

    like this successfullD

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    sick post. i agree with the abo:eposter. u should put all thesetogether and make it a book. "onldont release it cu- that will cost mesosososososo much mone long

    term I

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    nice post

    dont forget medium strength handsexercising pot control if ou see abetFcheckFbet line "usuall from

    better plaers)

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    Mer nice post. Attention uN# mods!stick this post. 8olla.

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    good post poke

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    poke! ou are m godHHHanother superbe post b ou. thankou thank ou thank ou thank ouH

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    Nice thread. + archi:ed the link onthe wikifor those of us who canne:er find these when we5re lookingfor them.

    Also the wiki article is a mess "Gust ashorter post + stuck in there)Le:erone5s in:ited to editfix it asappropriate.

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    Mer nice post. Attention uN#mods! addthis postto t)eot)er posts linked on an

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    eisting sti'ky. 8olla.

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    Thanks *okeH definitl helped meout alot.

    Edited by erbbysam (01/03/07 10:19 PM)

    Br"no)e%"gold hand

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    Excellent postH

    ThanksH

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    Nice postH

    Thanks *oke

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    6utstanding post! *okeH

    +5:e read almost all of our IbasicI

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    posts and ou ne:er failed to hit thenail on all aspects of solid ABCFstle33N# poker "oh! and + mean this asa compliment).

    + think our beginner5s book +3readH ust bind all our articlestogether and it5s done.

    + don5t fear that this will make thea:erage opponent better. ,ostplaers at these le:els can5t bebothered with reading and learningand most of those who read it can5tbe bothered with the hard work toconsistentl put it into use.

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    Thank ou.

    *lease do write that book.

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    6, awesome...+5:e onl read halfit is extremel insightful.

    T8ANP /6 6*

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    +[m sorr +[m a li:e cash gameplaer so +[m not sur about thenumbers form poker tracker...4hat does this for example stand

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    tnx

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    Mnh

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    *oke! ou5re a born teacher. *raiseand thanks. onna get it publishedD

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    4a to create a hateFlo:erelationship with fellow %Q%.

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    Best post + ha:e read so farH

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    *oke

    +5:e been meaning to break downpoint ;! thanks for sa:ing me the

    trouble

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    6ne of the best posts +5:e e:er read.Awesome stuff! *okeH

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    *oke

    This post was Gust what + needed toget back in the poker mindset aftera week in California and the stressof starting up school again after an month hiatus. Thank /ou. +f + e:er

    meet ou +R#! drinks on meH

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    bump for lo:e....

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    Excellent post poke. /ouob:iousl do a great lot ofthinking about the game! andha:e a talent to put this intowords. + would lo:e to see apost from ou regarding turnand ri:er pla.

    +t will be an instaFclassic like this6*. 4ell done again! *okeH

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    great post *oke. /ou5re clutch.

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    the 8 trinit "M*+*! *R!and a:erage aggression)

    + found this to be Juite funn. +sthere a Nicene Creed for the pokerplaerD

    4e belie:e in one 3klansk!creator of Theor of *oker...

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    Ipairs Q! AP! A7.I;(O S Ipairs ''Q! AP! A7!suited aces! P7s! 7sI;?O S Ian pair! AP! A7! P7!suited connectors ?>Q! ansuited aceI%(O S Ian pair! an twobroadwa! an suited aceI%?O S Ian pair! an suitedbroadwa! an ace! an suitedconnectors ?>sQ! P7oI=(O S Ian pair! an ace! ansuited king! an suitedbroadwa! an suitedconnectors ?>sQ! PToQ! 7oIor Ian pair! an ace! ansuited king! an broadwaI>(O S Ian pair! an ace! anking! an two broadwa! ansuited connectors =%sQI?(O S Ian pair! an twosuited cards! an ace! an twobroadwa! P?oQI

    antastic post! Gust one Juestion F3hould the %(O categor sa Iansuited broadwaI rather than Iantwo broadwaI D

    poka)pa"lmember

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    i dont know if this issues beenaddressed alread but for a 'maxplaer! these percentages should beinflated since the5re plaing in theblinds more often and stealingoccurs much more freJuentl! rightDso how much O do i add to eachrange to reflect the true range at a

    'max table

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    reat post *okeH As alwas! +enGoed reading it! especiall thispart amused me$

    Against a passi:e calling station thismeans I+ ha:e two cards. #ookH3pades are prett. + like pie.I

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    This is siml awesome. Thank ou:er much for itH

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    Reall impressi:e post which shouldhelp getting better at analsing and

    reading hands

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    Nice post poke butone aside on thedifferent le:els ofthinking. Accordingto 3klansk inN#8TA*! Xero le:elthinking is when ouonl think aboutour hand! ;st le:elthinking is when outhink about ouropponents hand andwhat he ma ha:eand %nd le:elthinking is what outhink ouropponents think ouma ha:e.

    /eah! + was also Juitesurprised that 3klansk gotthat wrong.

    N#T* also mentions that Iwhat do +ha:eI is ;st le:el! but then goes onto refer to it as (th le:el.

    Technicall ( le:el thinking wouldbe that episode of The 6ffice "3ed) where *hllis doesn5t reali-e herown cards and stacks Pe:in.

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    bump

    *oke FF when is the book coming

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    outD + wanna bu it...

    Al>,o#bre>Grandeold hand

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    N8. Thanks for the postL :erinsightful. This is the sort of stuff +dig through these boards for.

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    #ogging in with the the sole purposeof posting heart emoticon feelsreall dumb! but this post was sogood + can5t resist.

    s)9?

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    i used to do this all the time! forgetting people to call with an pair!etc. but kept getting burnt b gi:ingthe free card. i know it was probablGust :ariance! but now i tend to betturn and check ri:er if ;st to act to

    induce a bluff:alue bet! then callfor :alue with T*TP! T*P etc.

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    amm Bo H /ou Rock man H

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    Nice ob *oke!!!!!!!!!as mentioned!it should be a definate candidate for5stickness5

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    4ell *oke! thanks to this post! mink cartridge is empt.

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    lol

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    great post thx

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    AQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Bump

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    i usuall don5t read long posts F butthis one was goood

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    3a a plaer has a M*+* of>(O and a *R of %(O and

    the limp in front of ou. 4hatsort of holdings do ou expectthem to ha:eD 4ell! we knowthe plaer is willing to plawith >(O of his handsL oursample range for this lookedsomething like Ian pair! anace! an king! an twobroadwa! an suitedconnectors =%sQ.I But we canalread refine this range somemore$ we know that with %(Oof those hands! :illain wouldha:e raised! and here he

    didn5t.

    3ince no one mentioned this earlier.+sn5t this wrong. oesn5t he mean heraises %(O O! .$$ ,.N&S! andnot %(O of Gust the hands he plasD

    ust want make sure. +t doesn5tchange the point he5s making but +

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    need to know if + am mistaken.

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    /es! *R %(O means that of all ofthe hands ou are dealt! ou raise%(O of them.

    %okey*rett much the bestposter e:er

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    3a a plaer has aM*+* of >(O and a*R of %(O and thelimp in front of ou.4hat sort ofholdings do ouexpect them to

    ha:eD 4ell! weknow the plaer iswilling to pla with>(O of his handsLour sample rangefor this lookedsomething like Ianpair! an ace! anking! an twobroadwa! ansuited connectors=%sQ.I But we canalread refine thisrange some more$

    we know that with%(O of those hands!:illain would ha:eraised! and here hedidn5t.

    3ince no one mentioned thisearlier. +sn5t this wrong.oesn5t he mean he raises%(O O! .$$ ,.N&S! and not%(O of Gust the hands heplasD

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