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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON AUTOMOTIVE and MARINE SERVICE
STATIONS
MEMORANDUM
TO: Technical Committee on Automotive and Marine Service
Stations
FROM: R. P. Benedetti
DATE: October 16, 2012
SUBJECT: Agenda for NFPA 30A First Draft Meeting – October 30,
2012
_________________________________________________________________________________
Ladies and Gentlemen: Attached is the Agenda for the NFPA 30A First
Draft Meeting of the Technical Committee on Automotive and Marine
Service Stations, to be held Tuesday, October 30, 2012, at the
offices of the National Fire Protection Association, in Quincy MA.
If you have additional items for the Agenda, please bring them with
you to the meeting. rpb/ cc AUV Meeting Folder AUV/NM ACronin
LFuller
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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON AUTOMOTIVE and MARINE SERVICE
STATIONS
AGENDA
Technical Committee on Automotive and Marine Service Stations
National Fire Protection Association offices
Quincy, MA Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM
1. Call to Order. 2. Introduction of Attendees. Update of
Committee Roster. [Attachment № A1] 3. Approval of Minutes of Last
Meeting. [Attachment № A2] 4. Report of Committee Chair. 5. Report
of Staff Liaison.
Technical Committee Scope. [Attachment № A3] Technical Committee
Membership Status. [Attachment № A3] A2011 Document Revision
Schedule. [Attachment № A4]
6. Briefing on Fire Protection Research Foundation Activities.
[K. Almand, Executive Director] 7. Presentation on NFPA’s New
Standards Development Process. [NFPA Staff] 8. Review and Act on
Proposed Amendments to NFPA 30A-2012. [Attachment № A5] 9. Recent
Correspondence. [NONE] 10. Other Old Business. [NONE] 11. New
Business.
Mandatory Grounding of Vents, Drop Tubes, Risers. Separation
Between Aboveground Fuel Tanks and Delivery Vehicles. Suggested
Revision to Section 6.7. [Attachment № A6] Separation Between
Aboveground Fuel Tanks and Dispensers. [Attachment № A7] Does Scope
of NFPA 30A Include Non-Registered Vehicles?
12. Schedule Next Meeting(s). 13. Adjournment.
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Address List No PhoneAutomotive and Marine Service Stations
AUV-AAA
Robert P. Benedetti10/16/2012
AUV-AAAAlfredo M. RamirezChairUL LLC333 Pfingsten
RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: Roland A. Riegel
RT 4/15/2004AUV-AAA
Frank G. BiancucciPrincipalCity of Hamilton Emergency
ServicesFire Prevention Division55 King William StreetHamilton, ON
L8R 1A2 Canada
E 03/05/2012
AUV-AAARob BrownPrincipalHusky Corporation2325 Husky WayPacific,
MO 63069
M 8/9/2011AUV-AAA
Charles A. BurnsPrincipalOscar W. Larson Company10100 Dixie
HighwayClarkston, MI 48348
IM 3/4/2009
AUV-AAASullivan D. CurranPrincipalFiberglass Tank & Pipe
Institute11150 South Wilcrest Drive, Suite 101Houston, TX
77099-4343Alternate: Patrick A. McLaughlin
M 1/1/1993AUV-AAA
Nils DeaconPrincipalMutual Service Office, Inc.1108 Morris
AvenuePoint Pleasant, NJ 08742
I 08/09/2012
AUV-AAABrian C. DonovanPrincipalSTICO Mutual Insurance
Company171 West Wing Street, Suite 208Arlington Heights, IL
60005
I 1/1/1993AUV-AAA
Paul J. DoylePrincipalPetroleum Marine Consultants, LLC13833
Wellington Trace, E4 #207Wellington, FL 33414
IM 10/18/2011
AUV-AAAThomas K. DrubePrincipalChart Industries, Inc.407 7th
Street NWNew Prague, MN 56071
M 4/3/2003AUV-AAA
Michael L. EavesPrincipalClean Energy3020 Old Ranch Parkway,
Suite 400Seal Beach, CA 90740
IM 8/9/2011
AUV-AAAThomas J. ForsythePrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.2551
San Ramon Valley Blvd., Suite 209San Ramon, CA 94583
SE 4/28/2000AUV-AAA
Fred B. GoodnightPrincipalAmerex Corporation7595 Gadsden
HighwayPO Box 81Trussville, AL 35173-0081Fire Equipment
Manufacturers' Association
M 1/1/1988
AUV-AAACurtis N. HardingPrincipalTyco Fire Suppression &
Building ProductsOne Stanton StreetMarinette, WI 54143Alternate:
Adam Stewart
M 8/5/2009AUV-AAA
Donald HauszPrincipalAll Out Fire Equipment Company, Inc.385
High StreetHolbrook, NY 11741National Association of Fire Equipment
Distributors
IM 1/1/1988
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Address List No PhoneAutomotive and Marine Service Stations
AUV-AAA
Robert P. Benedetti10/16/2012
AUV-AAADouglas B. HornePrincipalDBHorne LLC6011 Fords Lake
CourtAcworth, GA 30101Clean Vehicle Education Foundation
M 10/28/2008AUV-AAA
Marshall A. KleinPrincipalMarshall A. Klein & Associates,
Inc.6815 Autumn View DriveEldersburg, MD 21784-6304Automotive Oil
Change AssociationAlternate: David M. Hammerman
U 1/1/1987
AUV-AAARichard S. KrausPrincipalAPI/Petroleum Safety
Consultants210 East Fairfax Street, Apt. 600Falls Church, VA
22046-2909American Petroleum Institute
U 3/1/2011AUV-AAA
Ronald B. Laurence, Jr.PrincipalStantec Consulting Services,
Inc.5 Dartmouth Drive, Suite 101Auburn, NH 03032
SE 8/9/2011
AUV-AAAThomas J. MarhevkoPrincipalNational Marine Manufacturers
Association231 South LaSalle Street, Suite 2050Chicago, IL
60604
U 10/27/2005AUV-AAA
Randy MosesPrincipalWayne, A GE Energy BusinessHeritage Campus,
Suite 4041000 East Walnut StreetPerkasie, PA 18944
M 3/1/2011
AUV-AAADavid T. PhelanPrincipalBergenfield Fire Department114
Niagara StreetDumont, NJ 07628
E 03/05/2012AUV-AAA
William E. RehrPrincipalInternational Code Council4051 West
Flossmoor RoadCountry Club Hills, IL 60478
E 1/1/1987
AUV-AAARobert N. RenkesPrincipalPetroleum Equipment
Institute6514 East 69th StreetTulsa, OK 74133
M 1/1/1987AUV-AAA
Jess A. RobbinsPrincipalPlasteel Inc.2541 State Street, Suite
205Carlsbad, CA 92008
M 08/09/2012
AUV-AAAJames R. RoccoPrincipalSage Risk Solutions, LLC360
Heritage RoadAurora, OH 44202Petroleum Marketers Association of
AmericaAlternate: Charles R. Plummer
U 3/21/2006AUV-AAA
Robert C. Schultz, Jr.PrincipalUniversity of Texas at AustinFire
Prevention ServicesPO Box 7729Austin, TX 78713-7729
U 10/1/1995
AUV-AAAJoel E. SipePrincipalExponent, Inc.3527 13th Street,
NWWashington, DC 20010
SE 8/9/2011AUV-AAA
Charles A. SunderhausPrincipalOPW Fueling Components9393
Princeton Glendale RoadHamilton, OH 45011
M 4/14/2005
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Address List No PhoneAutomotive and Marine Service Stations
AUV-AAA
Robert P. Benedetti10/16/2012
AUV-AAABruce J. SwiecickiPrincipalNational Propane Gas
Association21200 South LaGrange Road, Suite 353Frankfort, IL
60423
IM 7/1/1996AUV-AAA
Kevin J. WolfPrincipalIntertek Testing Services3933 US Route
11Cortland, NY 13045-9715
RT 8/5/2009
AUV-AAADavid M. HammermanAlternateMarshall A. Klein and
Associates, Inc.3950 Chaffey RoadRandallstown, MD 21133Automotive
Oil Change AssociationPrincipal: Marshall A. Klein
U 4/5/2001AUV-AAA
Patrick A. McLaughlinAlternateMcLaughlin & Associates186
Shawomet AvenueWarwick, RI 02889Fiberglass Tank & Pipe
InstitutePrincipal: Sullivan D. Curran
M 10/1/1993
AUV-AAACharles R. PlummerAlternatePPM Consultants, Inc.2508
Ticheli RoadMonroe, LA 71202Petroleum Marketers Association of
AmericaPrincipal: James R. Rocco
U 4/14/2005AUV-AAA
Roland A. RiegelAlternateUL LLC1285 Walt Whitman RoadMelville,
NY 11747-3085Principal: Alfredo M. Ramirez
RT 4/15/2004
AUV-AAAAdam StewartAlternateTyco Fire Protection ProductsOne
Stanton StreetMarinette, WI 54143Principal: Curtis N. Harding
M 03/05/2012AUV-AAA
William R. HamiltonNonvoting MemberUS Department of
LaborOccupational Safety & Health Administration200
Constitution Ave. NW, Room N3609Washington, DC 20210Alternate:
Matthew I. Chibbaro
E 3/4/2009
AUV-AAAMatthew I. ChibbaroAlt. to Nonvoting MemberUS Department
of LaborOccupational Safety & Health Administration200
Constitution Ave. NW, Room N3609Washington, DC 20210Occupational
Safety & Health AdministrationPrincipal: William R.
Hamilton
E 4/15/2004AUV-AAA
Donald M. JohnsonMember Emeritus3333 Rossmoor Parkway, #1Walnut
Creek, CA 94595
1/1/1987
AUV-AAARobert P. BenedettiStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection
Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
4/22/2008
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ATTACHMENT № A2
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON AUTOMOTIVE and MARINE SERVICE
STATIONS
MINUTES of MEETING Technical Committee on Automotive and Marine
Service Stations
Westin Peachtree Plaza Hotel Atlanta, GA
October 4, 2010
I. Attendance C. A. Burns, Oscar W. Larson Company B. C.
Donovan, STICO Mutual Insurance Company F. B. Goodnight, Amerex
Corporation (Rep. Fire Equipment Manufacturers' Association)
J. P. Hartmann, John Hartmann & Associates A. M. Ramirez,
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., CHAIR
R. N. Renkes, Petroleum Equipment Institute J. R. Rocco, Sage
Risk Solutions, LLC (Rep. Petroleum Marketers Association of
America)
R. C. Schultz, University of Texas at Austin – Fire Prevention
Services R. Sharpe, Plasteel International Inc. C. A. Sunderhaus,
OPW Fueling Components R. P. Benedetti, NFPA, STAFF LIAISON P. May,
NFPA, STAFF LIAISON Guests: R. Kraus, PSC Petroleum Safety
Consultants (Rep. American Petroleum Institute) D. Schmidt, Steel
Tank Institute/SPFA Minutes 1. The meeting was called to order at
8:00 AM by Technical Committee Chair Al Ramirez. 2. Attendees
introduced themselves and necessary corrections were made to the
Technical Committee
roster. A copy of the current roster will be sent under separate
cover. 3. The Minutes of the previous meeting (January 2010, St.
Petersburg Bayfront Hotel,
St. Petersburg FL) were unanimously approved. 4. Technical
Committee Chair Al Ramirez reviewed the meeting agenda. 5. The
Staff Liaison presented the following reports:
Technical Committee Scope & Technical Committee Name. At the
April, 2009 meeting, the Committee reviewed, but did not act on,
proposed changes to the Technical Committee’s Scope statement. The
Technical Committee approved additional changes, including a change
of the
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name to “Technical Committee on Motor Fuel Dispensing and
Automotive Repair Facilities”. [See Attachment № M1] Action Item:
The Staff Liaison is to circulate a letter ballot to the Technical
Committee on the proposed new scope. If the vote is affirmative,
the Staff Liaison is to submit the new Scope to the NFPA Standards
Council for their approval.
Technical Committee Membership Status. The Staff Liaison
reviewed recent changes to the Technical Committee’s membership. As
requested, a copy of the descriptions of the membership categories
is included. [See Attachment № M2.] The Technical Committee
expressed concern that, with the retirement of Messrs. Benscoter
and Gregory, there is no representation from dispenser
manufacturers or from the American Petroleum Institute, although in
the latter case a replacement is expected. Action Item: Bob Renkes
agreed to seek a candidate from one of the dispenser
manufacturers.
A2011 Document Revision Schedule. The Staff Liaison reviewed the
deadlines of the 2011
document revision schedule. 6. Report on Alternative Fuels.
Status of NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code. Paul May reported
that NFPA 2 has completed its Report on Proposals (ROP) and Report
on Comments (ROC) process. Challenges to the new code are expected,
however.
Biofuels: Biodiesel, Ethanol, etc. Bob Renkes reported that an
increase in the ethanol blend limit to 15 percent is expected
within 1 to 2 years. He also reported that US House Bill 5778 is
being sponsored to require the Environmental Protection Agency to
delay implementation of the increase until compatibility issues
with legacy dispensing system components, vehicle fuel systems, and
other small motors can be determined. The Department of Energy is
now testing vehicle compatibility, with a report expected soon.
Update of UL Work on Alternative Fuels. Al Ramirez reported on
Underwriters Laboratories’ progress on listing system components
for use with intermediate ethanol/gasoline blends. Listed equipment
is now being introduced. Three levels of testing are being
implemented: gasoline only, E25, and E85.
Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF). Bob Renkes reported that
PEI/RP1100-10, Recommended Practices for the Storage and Dispensing
of Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF), has been published. He also reported
that, to date, there have been no adverse area classification or
local approvals issues.
7. Report on Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) 985. The Staff
Liaison reported on the status of this
TIA and the fact that it was not approved by the NFPA Standards
Council. Bob Renkes suggested that the Technical Committee abandon
the TIA. He reported that there are too many issues of liability
and insurability. Marketers are resigned to replacement of their
legacy dispensing systems and authorities having jurisdiction are
insisting on listed equipment.
8. Report on Comments (ROC). The Technical Committee reviewed
and acted on all public comments to
the Report on Proposals (ROP) on NFPA 30A and drafted one
Committee Comment to revise Figure 8.3.2. Action Item: The Staff
Liaison was directed to circulate the ROC to the Technical
Committee for letter ballot.
9. Recent Correspondence. The Technical Committee reviewed all
recent correspondence and
determined that no action was necessary. 10. Review of Previous
Correspondence. The Technical Committee reviewed correspondence
that was
deferred from prior meetings.
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Action Item: Where directed, the Staff Liaison will ask the
submitters of the inquiries to submit proposals to be considered at
the next revision cycle for NFPA 30A.
11. Other Old Business. The Technical Committee discussed the
issue of static electricity hazards during
marine fueling and determined that there was no issue. 12. There
was no New Business requiring the Technical Committee’s attention.
13. Scheduling of the next Technical Committee meeting was
postponed until after adoption of the 2012
edition of NFPA 30A. 14. The meeting was adjourned at 4:15
PM.
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ATTACHMENT № M1
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON
MOTOR FUEL DISPENSING AND AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR FACILITIES
SCOPE STATEMENT
This Committee shall have primary responsibility for documents
on safeguarding against the fire and explosion hazards associated
with the general storage, handling, and dispensing of flammable and
combustible liquids and gaseous fuels at motor fuel dispensing
facilities automotive and marine service stations, farms, and
isolated construction sites and with related activities, such as
operation, inspection, maintenance, and repair of fuel dispensing
and storage system components gaseous fuels. This Committee shall
also have primary responsibility for documents on construction,
control of fire hazards, ventilation, fire protection, and
maintenance of automotive repair facilities garages. This Committee
shall have responsibility for the dispensing of gaseous fuels only
at facilities where liquid fuels are also dispensed. Responsible
for NFPA 30A, Code for Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities and Repair
Garages.
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ATTACHMENT № M2
GUIDELINES TO CLASSIFICATION OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS
These Guidelines are for use by the Standards Council and the
staff to assist in com plying with 3.2.5 of the Regulations
Governing Committee Projects. The following classifications apply
to Committee members and represent their principal interest in the
activity of the Committee. 1. M Manufacturer: A representative of a
maker or marketer of a product, assembly, or system, or portion
thereof, that is affected by the standard. 2. U User: A
representative of an entity that is subject to the provisions of
the standard or that voluntarily uses the standard. 3. I/M
Installer/Maintainer: A representative of an entity that is in the
business of installing or maintaining a product, assembly, or
system affected by the standard. 4. L Labor: A labor representative
or employee concerned with safety in the work place. 5. R/T Applied
Research/Testing Laboratory: A representative of an independent
testing laboratory or independent applied research organization
that promulgates and/or enforces standards. 6. E Enforcing
Authority: A representative of an agency or an organization that
promulgates and/or enforces standards. 7. I Insurance: A
representative of an insurance company, broker, agent, bureau, or
inspection agency. 8. C Consumer: A person who is or represents the
ultimate purchaser of a product, system, or service affected by the
standard, but who is not included in (2). 9. SE Special Expert: A
person not representing (1) through (8), and who has special
expertise in the scope of the standard or portion thereof. NOTE 1:
“Standard” connotes code, standard, recommended practice, or guide.
NOTE 2: A representative includes an employee. NOTE 3: While these
classifications will be used by the Standards Council to achieve a
balance for Technical Committees, the Standards Council may
determine that new classifications of member or unique interests
need representation in order to foster the best possible Committee
deliberations on any project. In this connection, the Standards
Council may make such appointments as it deems appropriate in the
public interest, such as the classification of “Utilities” in the
National Electrical Code Committee. NOTE 4: Representatives of
subsidiaries of any group are generally considered to have the same
classification as the parent organization. Approved Standards
Council : November 1981; Revised October 1990 Approved Board of
Directors: June 1997
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ATTACHMENT № A3
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON AUTOMOTIVE and MARINE SERVICE
STATIONS
SCOPE STATEMENT
This Committee shall have primary responsibility for documents
on safeguarding against the fire and explosion hazards associated
with the general storage, handling, and dispensing of flammable and
combustible liquids at automotive and marine service stations,
farms, and isolated construction sites and with related activities,
such as dispensing gaseous fuels. This committee shall also have
primary responsibility for documents on construction, control of
fire hazards, ventilation, fire protection, and maintenance of
repair garages. Responsible for NFPA 30A, Code for Motor Fuel
Dispensing Facilities and Repair Garages.
COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP BALANCE
Members: 28 M: 9 (32%)* U: 5 (18%)** Voting Alternates: 0 I/M: 5
(18%)*** L/C: 0 Alternates: 5 R/T: 2 (7%) E: 3 (11%)
Non-Voting: 2 I: 1 (4%) SE: 3 (11%) Emeritus 1
Task Group: 0 Hold List: 0 Balance: OK *(CNG dispensing
equipment: 1 fire suppression equipment: 2
liquid fuel dispensing equipment: 4 LNG dispensing equipment: 1
fuel storage tanks: 1) **(fleet operators: 1 lube-only/repair
facilities: 1 marine facilities: 1 retail: 2) ***(CNG
dispensing/storage systems: 1 fire suppression systems: 1
liquid fuel dispensing systems: 1 LPG dispensing systems: 1
marine fuel dispensing systems: 1
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www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab
Process Stage
Process Step
Dates for TC
Dates forTC with
CC Public Input Closing Date*
6/22/2012 6/22/2012
Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting
11/30/2012 8/31/2012
Public Input
Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot
1/18/2013 10/12/2012 Stage
Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot
2/8/2013 11/2/2012
(First Draft)
Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc
2/15/2013 11/9/2012
Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting
11/16/2012
Final date for CC First Draft Meeting
12/28/2012
Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot
1/18/2013
Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot
2/8/2013
Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc
2/15/2013
Post Final First Draft for Public Comment
2/22/2013 2/22/2013
Public Comment closing date
5/3/2013 5/3/2013
Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Documents (Documents that
received no Comments) 5/10/2013
5/10/2013
Appeal Closing Date for Consent Documents (Documents that received no Comments)
5/24/2013 5/24/2013
Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting
10/18/2013 7/12/2013 Comment
Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot
11/29/2013 8/23/2013 Stage
Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot
12/20/2013 9/13/2013
(Second
Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc
12/27/2013 9/20/2013 Draft)
Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting
9/27/2013
Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting
11/8/2013
Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot
11/29/2013
Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot
12/20/2013
Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc
12/27/2013
Post Final Second Draft for NITMAM Review
1/3/2014 1/3/2014
Tech Session
Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date
2/7/2014 2/7/2014 Preparation
Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent
Documents 4/4/2014 4/4/2014
(& Issuance)
Appeal Closing Date for Consent Documents
4/18/2014 4/18/2014
SC Issuance Date for Consent Documents
5/9/2014 5/9/2014
Tech Session
Association Meeting for Documents with CAMs
6/9‐12/2014 6/9‐12/2014
Appeals and
Appeal Closing Date for Documents with CAMs
6/24/2014 6/24/2014 Issuance
Council Issuance Date for Documents with CAMs
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Report on Proposals – June 2014 NFPA
30A_______________________________________________________________________________________________30A-
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Michael
W. Mackey, General Physics Corporation
Dispensing devices for CNG, LNG, and LP-Gas shall be
listed.Already required in NFPA 52.
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30A_______________________________________________________________________________________________30A-
Log #2
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Michael
W. Mackey, General Physics Corporation
Revise text to read as follows:Aboveground tanks storing CNG,
LNG, or LP GAS; shall be separated from each other by at least 6 m
(20 ft) and from
dispensing devices that dispense liquid or gaseous motor fuels
by at least 15 m (50 ft). CNG, LNG, LP Gas, anddispensing devises
that dispense liquid motor fuels shall be rated for the electrical
classification of all fuels on site. Aspill of one type of motor
fuel shall not be allowed to flow into the storage area of another
type of motor fuel.
...None given.
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30A_______________________________________________________________________________________________30A-
Log #3
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Michael
W. Mackey, General Physics Corporation
Revise text to read as follows:Aboveground storage tanks for the
storage of CNG, LNG, or LP-Gas shall be provided with physical
protection in
accordance with Section 4.3.7. Aboveground storage tanks for the
storage of CNG and LNG shall be provided withphysical protection in
accordance with NFPA 52.
LNG and CNG storage protection requirements are covered in NFPA
52. LNG secondary containmentrequirements are stated in NFPA
52.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Dan
Frank, Argus Consulting, Inc.
Add new text to read as follows:This code shall not apply to
aircraft fuel dispensing facilities.
NFPA 30A is commonly referenced , in my opinion, incorrectly, by
local fire code officials for aircraftfuel dispensing in addition
to or in place of NFPA 407 which covers aircraft dispensing design
and operation. Addition ofthis text would clarify the intent of the
code to not include aircraft fuel servicing and dispensing directly
into aircraft.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Arthur
Londensky, Northeastern Regional Fire Code Development
Committee
Revise text to read as follows:Smoking materials, including
matches and lighters, smoke material waste receptacles,
shall not be used within 6 m (20 ft) of areas used for fueling,
servicing fuel systems of internal combustion engines, orreceiving
or dispensing of Class I and Class II liquids. The motors of all
equipment being fueled shall be shut off duringthe fueling
operation except for emergency generators, pumps, and so forth,
where continuing operation is essential.
Smoking material waste receptacles should not be permitted in
the area of fueling operations.Members of the NERFCDC have
experienced fires in areas where smoking material waste receptacles
were placed inthe area of fueling. Smoking material waste
receptacles are a source of ignition.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Arthur
Londensky, Northeastern Regional Fire Code Development
Committee
Revise text to read as follows:The primary responsibility of the
attendant shall be as follows:.....
The additional of primary is to further clarify that the
attendant is there to perform the duties in 9.4.3.1and other duties
are secondary. It appears the role of the attendant continues to be
other than an attendant to providesafe fueling.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Arthur
Londensky, Northeastern Regional Fire Code Development
Committee
Revise text to read as follows:Metal lockers shall be Where
lockers are provided for employees’ clothes, they shall be
constructed of metal.
Although it is valid to require lockers to be made of
non-combustible materials, some proprietors maychoose to not
provide lockers for employees. As currently worded it sounds like
they are required to provide lockers.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rufus
Youngblood, Ferrellgas LP
Revise text to read as follows:Aboveground tanks storing CNG,
and LNG, or LP-Gas shall be separated from each other by at least 6
m (20 ft)
and from dispensing devices that dispense liquid or gaseous
motor vehicle fuels by at least 15 m (50 ft).The 50 ft requirement
in NFPA 30A is too restrictive. Some commercial lots do not have
the size to
accommodate this distance. Additionally, Annex A in NFPA 30A
indicates that the 50-foot requirement was decidedupon
arbitrarily:
The selection of the 15 m (50 ft) separation distance for
gaseous fuels is based on the existing separationrequirements
prescribed in this code. No technical data were available to
support different separation distances, and the15 m (50 ft)
distance was considered reasonable and conservative, based on the
information available to the technicalcommittee at the time.Based
on the information in A.12.3.3 and in view of the requirements in
NFPA 58 - 8.4.1.1(3), which specifies
separation distances between LP-Gas containers and dispensing
devices for other liquid or gaseous fuels, the distancesin Table
12.3.4 are being proposed.NFPA 58 – 8.4.1.1(3) allows cylinders
awaiting use or resale to be stored at least 20 ft from any
automotive service
station fuel dispenser. If that logic is followed, it would be
reasonable to say that the distances in NFPA 58 – 8.4.1.2would be
sufficient for other quantities. The proposed table 12.3.4 is based
on those quantities and distances.Example 1: 1000 gals of LP-Gas
weighs 4240 lbs. Table 8.4.1.2 allows a 10 ft horizontal separation
distance to
exposures.Example 2: 2000 gals of LP-Gas weighs 8480 lbs. Table
8.4.1.2 allows a 20 ft horizontal separation distance to
exposures.This substantiation is based on quantities in
cylinders, and then transferring those quantities to ASME
containers,
which may present some questions. It could be argued that
radiant heat from a fire or even direct impingement wouldhave less
effect on an ASME container than it would on cylinders - especially
aluminum cylinders.In addition, published research¹ is available
that supports the distances in Table 12.3.4. The research project
modeledsteel propane containers of the sizes referred to in Table
12.3.4 that were exposed to a severe petroleum pool fire 100feet in
diameter for a duration of 30 minutes. The results of the modeling
indicated that the temperatures of thecontainer walls were well
below the temperature at which steel begins to yield.
¹Journal of Hazardous Materials, “Exposure of a liquefied gas
container to an external fire” by Phani K. Raj. Published:April
2006
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Revise text as follows:Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333
Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 79, Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Petroleum
Dispensing Products, 2005, Revised 2010.UL 87, Standard for
Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Petroleum Products, 2001,
Revised 2008.UL Subject 87A, Outline of Investigation for
Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline and
Gasoline/Ethanol
Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent
(E0-E85), 2010.ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies
for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, Revised 2011.ANSI/UL 567,
Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors and
Pipe-Connection Fittings for
Petroleum Products and LP-Gas, 2003, Revised 2011.ANSI/UL 842,
Standard for Valves for Flammable Fluids, 2007, Revised 2010
2011.UL 2080, Standard for Fire Resistant Tanks for Flammable and
Combustible Liquids, 2000.ANSI/UL 2085, Standard for Protected
Aboveground Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 1997,
Revised
2010.UL 2245, Standard for Below-Grade Vaults for Flammable
Liquid Storage Tanks, 2006.ANSI/UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle
Valves, 2011, Revised 2012
Add reference to ANSI/UL 79, UL Subject 87A, ANSI/UL 330,
ANSI/UL 567 and ANSI/UL 2586 asreferenced in proposed revisions to
Sections 6.2.3, 6.2.4(new), 6.6.1 and 6.3.10. Update ANSI/UL 842 to
most recentedition as indicated.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Revise text as follows:Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333
Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 2085, , 1997, RevisedDecember 1999 2010.
Update referenced standard to most recent edition as
indicated.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Rufus
Youngblood, Ferrellgas LP
Add new text to read as follows:Aboveground containers storing
LP Gas shall be separated from dispensing devices that dispense
liquid or
gaseous motor vehicle fuels in accordance with Table 12.3.4.
*****Insert 30A_L8_Tbl 12.3.4_Rec Here*****
The 50 ft requirement in NFPA 30A is too restrictive. Some
commercial lots do not have the size toaccommodate this distance.
Additionally, Annex A in NFPA 30A indicates that the 50-foot
requirement was decidedupon arbitrarily:
The selection of the 15 m (50 ft) separation distance for
gaseous fuels is based on the existing separationrequirements
prescribed in this code. No technical data were available to
support different separation distances, and the15 m (50 ft)
distance was considered reasonable and conservative, based on the
information available to the technicalcommittee at the time.Based
on the information in A.12.3.3 and in view of the requirements in
NFPA 58 - 8.4.1.1(3), which specifies
separation distances between LP-Gas containers and dispensing
devices for other liquid or gaseous fuels, the distancesin Table
12.3.4 are being proposed.NFPA 58 – 8.4.1.1(3) allows cylinders
awaiting use or resale to be stored at least 20 ft from any
automotive service
station fuel dispenser. If that logic is followed, it would be
reasonable to say that the distances in NFPA 58 – 8.4.1.2would be
sufficient for other quantities. The proposed table 12.3.4 is based
on those quantities and distances.Example 1: 1000 gals of LP-Gas
weighs 4240 lbs. Table 8.4.1.2 allows a 10 ft horizontal separation
distance to
exposures.Example 2: 2000 gals of LP-Gas weighs 8480 lbs. Table
8.4.1.2 allows a 20 ft horizontal separation distance to
exposures.This substantiation is based on quantities in
cylinders, and then transferring those quantities to ASME
containers,
which may present some questions. It could be argued that
radiant heat from a fire or even direct impingement wouldhave less
effect on an ASME container than it would on cylinders - especially
aluminum cylinders.In addition, published research¹ is available
that supports the distances in Table 12.3.4. The research project
modeledsteel propane containers of the sizes referred to in Table
12.3.4 that were exposed to a severe petroleum pool fire 100feet in
diameter for a duration of 30 minutes. The results of the modeling
indicated that the temperatures of thecontainer walls were well
below the temperature at which steel begins to yield.
¹Journal of Hazardous Materials, “Exposure of a liquefied gas
container to an external fire” by Phani K. Raj. Published:April
2006
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Table 12.3.4
Water Capacity per Container Minimum Distance
gal m³ ft m
0 - 1000 0 – 3.8 10 3
1001 - 2000 >3.8 – 7.57 20 6
≥2001 >7.57 50 15
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Douglas
B. Horne, Clean Vehicle Education Foundation
Revise text to read as follows:1 * Aboveground tanks storing
CNG, or LNG, or LP-Gas shall be separated from each other
aboveground tanks
containing liquid motor vehicle fuels-by at least 6 m (20 ft)
and from dispensing devices that dispense liquid or gaseousmotor
vehicle fuels by at least 15 3m (5010 ft).Exception No. 1: This
required separation shall not apply to tanks storing fuels that
have the same chemical
composition.Exception No. 2: When both the gaseous fuel storage
and dispensing equipment are at least 15m(50 ft) from any other
aboveground motor fuel storage or dispensing equipment, the
requirements of NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous FuelSystems Code, or
NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, whichever is applicable,
shall apply.
The existing section 12.3.3 did not take into account the actual
properties of the gaseous fuels, northe existing requirements of
the LNG station design when determining the relative hazards
between liquid fuel systemsand gaseous fuel systems. This was noted
in the annex statement A.12.3.3 when it was stated that there was
limitedinformation available to the technical committee at the time
of drafting the requirements. The proposed 3m (10 ft)separation
distance is based on section 6.2.1 of 30A-2012 which allows
dispensers within 3m (10 ft) of property lines orbuildings, thus
indication the the hazard recognized is acceptable at a 3m (10 ft)
separation distance. The changes tothe language as proposed provide
new separation distance based on years of experience by the
industry and theunderstanding of the hazards by the NFPA 52
technical committee when developing separation distances. See
NFPA52 – 2010 section 8.4.2.7 for the separation between CNG
storage and liquid motor vehicle fuel storage and NFPA 52 –2010
section 12.2.3 that covers spill containment for LNG storage. The
language covering LPG should be revised by the30A TC but placed in
a separate section since LPG has a specific gravity greater than
1.0 and does not dissipate in airas does CNG and therefore creates
a different hazard to the station.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Douglas
B. Horne, Clean Vehicle Education Foundation
Revise text to read as follows:The selection of the 153m(5010
ft) separation distance for gaseous fuels is based on the existing
separation
requirements prescribed in this code section 6.2.1. Also this
distance is based on an understanding of the actualhazards
associated with the design of CNG and LNG storage systems. LNG
storage is separated from any dispensingequipment by spill
containment system and CNG has a specific gravity of less than 1.0
and dissipates in air.No technical data were available to support
different separation distances, and the 15 m (50 ft) distance
was
considered reasonable and conservative, based on the information
available to the technical committee at the time.The existing
section 12.3.3 did not take into account the actual properties of
the gaseous fuels, nor
the existing requirements of the LNG station design when
determining the relative hazards between liquid fuel systemsand
gaseous fuel systems. This was noted in the annex statement
A.12.3.3 when it was stated that there was limitedinformation
available to the technical committee at the time of drafting the
requirements. The proposed 3m (10 ft)separation distance is based
on section 6.2.1 of 30A-2012 which allows dispensers within 3m (10
ft) of property lines orbuildings, thus indication the the hazard
recognized is acceptable at a 3m (10 ft) separation distance. The
changes tothe language as proposed provide new separation distance
based on years of experience by the industry and theunderstanding
of the hazards by the NFPA 52 technical committee when developing
separation distances. See NFPA52 – 2010 section 8.4.2.7 for the
separation between CNG storage and liquid motor vehicle fuel
storage and NFPA 52 –2010 section 12.2.3 that covers spill
containment for LNG storage. The language covering LPG should be
revised by the30A TC but placed in a separate section since LPG has
a specific gravity greater than 1.0 and does not dissipate in airas
does CNG and therefore creates a different hazard to the
station.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Fuel dispensing systems, including dispensers, hoses, nozzles,
breakaway fittings, swivels, flexible connectors,dispenser
emergency shutoff valves, vapor recovery systems, and pumps that
are used for alcohol-blended motor fuelsshall be listed and labeled
in accordance with ANSI/UL 79
; UL 87, ; UL Subject 87A,
; ANSI/UL 330,; ANSI/UL 567,
; or ANSI/UL 842,or approved for the specific purpose.
Add reference to ANSI/UL 79, UL 87, UL Subject 87A, ANSI/UL 330,
ANSI/UL 567 and ANSI/UL 842as the appropriate product safety
standard for testing and listing these types of devices,
respectively. With manyproducts now being listed to handle
"Ethanol" blended fuels, these standards are critical to ensure
that these productsare reviewed and tested to provide the
protection for handling flammable/combustible liquids and ethanol
based fuels.UL 87 shall be required for all flammable and
combustible liquid dispensing. Additional review is needed if
theflammable and combustible liquids contain ethanol-blends and
shall be reviewed and tested to UL Subject 87A.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Products intended for use with gasoline/ethanol blends with a
nominal ethanol concentration greater than 10%shall be additionally
evaluated in accordance with UL Subject 87A,
.Add reference to ANSI/UL 79, UL 87, UL Subject 87A, ANSI/UL
330, ANSI/UL 567 and ANSI/UL 842
as the appropriate product safety standard for testing and
listing these types of devices, respectively. With manyproducts now
being listed to handle "Ethanol" blended fuels, these standards are
critical to ensure that these productsare reviewed and tested to
provide the protection for handling flammable/combustible liquids
and ethanol based fuels.UL 87 shall be required for all flammable
and combustible liquid dispensing. Additional review is needed if
theflammable and combustible liquids contain ethanol-blends and
shall be reviewed and tested to UL Subject 87A.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Revise/add text as follows:Where a suction-type dispensing
system includes a booster pump or where a suction-type dispensing
system is
supplied by a tank in a manner that produces a gravity head on
the dispensing device, a listed, vacuum-actuated shutoffvalve with
a shear section or equivalent-type valve, listed and labeled in
accordance with UL 842,
, shall be installed directly under the dispensing
device.Include reference to ANSI/UL 842 as this is a new standard
designed to cover and certify these
specific type valves.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Add new text to read as follows:A vacuum-actuated shutoff valve
with a shear-section or equivalent type valve that is used with
alcohol-blended
fuels shall be listed and labeled to UL Subject 87A,.
UL Subject 87A is the appropriate product safety standard for
testing and listing shut-off valvescovered in this section that are
exposed to alcohol-blended fuels.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________John
F. Bender, UL LLC
Revise text to read as follows:An automatic closing–type hose
nozzle valve, with a latch open device, and listed and labeled in
accordance with
ANSI/UL 842, and ANSI/UL , shall beprovided on island-type
dispensing devices used to dispense Class I or Class II
liquids.
Replace reference to ANSI/UL 842 with ANSI/UL 2586 since
flammable and combustible liquid onlyhose nozzle valves are now
investigated under ANSI/UL 2586. With the addition of the new
standard on hose nozzlevalves, ANSI/UL 2586, ANSI/UL 842 will only
be used to evaluate shear or ball valves as referenced in Section
6.6.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________J.
R. Nerat, Badger/Kidde Fire Protection / Rep. NFPA Industrial
Section representitive on NFPA 10
Revise text to read as follows:Each motor fuel dispensing
facility or repair garage shall be provided with fire
extinguishers installed, inspected and maintained as required by
NFPA-10 .Selection of extinguishers for the protection of these
Class B hazards shall be in accordance with NFPA-10 Section
5.5recommendations. Extinguishers for outside motor fuel dispensing
areas shall be provided according to the extra (high)hazard
requirements for Class B hazards, except that the maximum travel
distance to an 80 B:C extinguisher shall bepermitted to be 30.48 m
(100 ft).
Fire extinguishers for outside motor fuel dispensing areas shall
be provided so the maximum travel distanceto the extinguisher shall
not exceed 30.48 m (100 ft).
These revisions are necessary to further clarify the existing
NFPA-10 fire extinguisher selectionrecommendations for properly
addressing specific Class B fire hazards. The standards existing
selection reference toNFPA-10’s extra (high) hazard occupancy only
addresses general occupancy recommendations for potential open
spillfire related conditions and not the obstacle, gravity
three-dimensional or pressure fire situations more likely to
bepresented with fuel handling and transfer situations. Back in
2007 the NFPA-10 committee specifically addressed theselection of
fire extinguishers for special Class B types of fire situations
separately within Section 5.5.Extinguishers models having higher
agent flow rates have historically always addressed these types of
fire situations
better than extinguisher models with higher numerical fire
ratings, which in contrast require and dictate extendeddischarge
durations. Current NFPA-10 fire extinguisher recommendations for
such hazards are based upon drychemical models having minimum agent
capacities of 10 pounds and agent discharge flow rates of 1 lb/sec
(0.45kg/sec) or greater. The high-flow 10 and 20 pound types of
fire extinguisher models typically also carry reducednumerical
Class B fire ratings of only 20B and 40B respectively. For this
reason, the existing NFPA-30A standards 80B:C rating reference
needs to be removed or reduced accordingly.The proposed new
paragraph 9.2.5.2.1 attempts to maintain the committees existing
desired coverage and maximum
extinguisher travel distance recommendation for outside motor
fuel dispensing areas. ()
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________J.
R. Nerat, Badger/Kidde Fire Protection / Rep. NFPA Industrial
Section representitive on NFPA 10
Revise text to read as follows:Each marine motor fuel dispensing
facility shall be provided with fire extinguishers installed,
inspected and
maintained as required by NFPA-10 . Selection of extinguishers
for theprotection of these Class B hazards shall be in accordance
with NFPA-10 Section 5.5 recommendations. Extinguishersfor marine
motor fuel dispensing areas shall be provided according to the
extra (high) hazard requirements for Class Bhazards, except that
the maximum travel distance to an 80 B:C extinguisher shall be
permitted to be 30.48 m (100 ft).
Fire extinguishers for marine motor fuel dispensing areas shall
be provided so the maximum travel distanceto the extinguisher shall
not exceed 30.48 m (100 ft).
These revisions are necessary to further clarify the existing
NFPA-10 fire extinguisher selectionrecommendations for properly
addressing specific Class B fire hazards. The standards existing
selection reference toNFPA-10’s extra (high) hazard occupancy only
addresses general occupancy recommendations for potential open
spillfire related conditions and not the obstacle, gravity
three-dimensional or pressure fire situations more likely to
bepresented with fuel handling and transfer situations. Back in
2007 the NFPA-10 committee specifically addressed theselection of
fire extinguishers for special Class B types of fire situations
separately within Section 5.5.Extinguishers models having higher
agent flow rates have historically always addressed these types of
fire situations
better than extinguisher models with higher numerical fire
ratings, which in contrast require and dictate extendeddischarge
durations. Current NFPA-10 fire extinguisher recommendations for
such hazards are based upon drychemical models having minimum agent
capacities of 10 pounds and agent discharge flow rates of 1 lb/sec
(0.45kg/sec) or greater. The high-flow 10 and 20 pound types of
fire extinguisher models typically also have reducednumerical Class
B fire ratings of only 20B and 40B respectively. For this reason,
the existing NFPA-30A standards 80B:C rating reference needs to be
removed or reduced accordingly.The proposed new paragraph 11.7.1.1
attempts to maintain the committees existing maximum extinguisher
travel
distance recommendation for marine motor fuel dispensing areas.
()
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________David
Dixon, NorthStar, Inc.
Revise text to read as follows:Aboveground tanks storing CNG,
LNG, or LP-Gas shall be separated from each other by at least 6 m
(20 ft)
as required by NFPA 52 and from dispensing devices that dispense
liquid or gaseous motor vehicle fuels by at least 153 m (5010
ft).
The existing Section 12.3.3 was based on limited information as
noted in Annex A.12.3.3. It did nottake into account the
requirements of NFPA 52 – 2010 Sections 8.4.2.7 and 12.2.3 for LNG
station designs relative tohazards between LNG systems and gaseous
fuel systems. The proposed 3m (10 ft) separation distance is based
onSection 6.2.1 of 30A-2012 which allows dispensers within 3m (10
ft) of property lines or buildings, thus indication thatthe hazard
recognized is acceptable at a closer distance. Facilities storing
LNG or CNG and dispensing motor fuels ofdifferent chemical
compositions in close proximity to each other should have a common
emergency shutdown (ESD)system for the entire station as a common
industry standard. The requirements covering LPG should be
addressedseparately from LNG and CNG since LPG has a specific
gravity greater than 1.0 and has different
dissipationcharacteristics in air than CNG and LNG.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________David
Dixon, NorthStar, Inc.
Revise text to read as follows:The selection of the 153m(5010
ft) separation distance for gaseous fuels is based on the existing
separation
requirements prescribed in this code. This separation distance
is based on the setbacks and hazards of LNG and CNGfueling as
specified in NFPA 52 and in NFPA 30A para. 6.2.1. No technical data
were available to support differentseparation distances, and the 15
m (50 ft) distance was considered reasonable and conservative,
based on theinformation available to the technical committee at the
time.
The existing Section 12.3.3 was based on limited information as
noted in Annex A.12.3.3. It did nottake into account the
requirements of NFPA 52 – 2010 Sections 8.4.2.7 and 12.2.3 for LNG
station designs relative tohazards between LNG systems and gaseous
fuel systems. The proposed 3m (10 ft) separation distance is based
onSection 6.2.1 of 30A-2012 which allows dispensers within 3m (10
ft) of property lines or buildings, thus indication thatthe hazard
recognized is acceptable at a closer distance. Facilities storing
LNG or CNG and dispensing motor fuels ofdifferent chemical
compositions in close proximity to each other should have a common
emergency shutdown (ESD)system for the entire station as a common
industry standard. The requirements covering LPG should be
addressedseparately from LNG and CNG since LPG has a specific
gravity greater than 1.0 and has different
dissipationcharacteristics in air than CNG and LNG.
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________Gregory
J. Cahanin, Cahanin Fire & Code Consulting
Add new text to read as follows:Lettering for warnings listed in
9.2.5.4 shall be a minimum of 1/2-inch high.International symbols
(below) shall also be used for each warning and shall be a minimum
of 1 ¼-inches in
height.
(I could not edit the Leave Electronic Devices in Vehicles out
of the photo- it is not my intent to include it in thischange.)
INSERT FIGURE 30A_L22 (PI #26) Rec
INCLUDE 30A_L22 (PI #26) Sub
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The Issue:
Fire Prevention Code Requires Consumer Waning Signage at Gas
Station Pumps.
9.2.5.4* Signs. Warning signs shall be conspicuously posted in
the dispensing area and shall
incorporate the following or equivalent wording:
WARNING
It is unlawful and dangerous to dispense gasoline into
unapproved containers.
No smoking.
Stop motor.
No filling of portable containers in or on a motor vehicle.
Place container on ground before filling.
Discharge your static electricity before fueling by touching a
metal surface away from the nozzle.
Do not re-enter your vehicle while gasoline is pumping.
If a fire starts, do not remove nozzle — back away
immediately.
Do not allow individuals under licensed age to use the pump.
The signage provided at gas stations is not consistent as
demonstrated by the photos that follow. The letter of
the law often results in signage that is inconspicuous and does
not serve the consumer. There is no requirement
in the law to use international symbols which would be helpful
to those who do not read or speak and read
another language. Miami-Dade County Florida claims 5 different
languages although signage there is only
required to be in English. Nationally there is a need for
international symbols for gas stations signage. The sign
lettering size needs to be defined so that it is easily
read.
I surveyed and photographed 43 different gas station/convenience
stores within a 5 mile area as a part of a
Miami case I was involved in and found a myriad of different
signs with the examples attached in this proposal.
The case has settled and I no longer have a client interest and
wish to work to help insure that the public is
better informed. The photographs show large signs that say only
approved containers shall be used when the
general public can’t know what approved means. One sign said
only metal containers may be used when most
people buy approved and listed plastic cans. Some signs are
obscured by the pump advertising for the
convenience store. Some signs are large and use international
symbols mounted on the island post instead of the
pump and served as a basis for the proposed change. It is these
large signs with international symbols used by
several major petroleum manufacturers that should be adopted in
the Fire Code and NFPA 30A. I have
submitted the same change for NFPA 1.
We require signage with letters of a certain size for other fire
safety functions, but not on gas pumps. A
revision of Section 9.2.5.4 is in order as proposed. The letter
and symbol sizing are taken from existing signage
now used by several major petroleum manufacturers.
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Current Signage at Gas Stations and Convenience Stores
1. This sign says no unauthorized containers- what does the
consumer know about them?
2. This sign says no non-metal containers yet we have UL listed
plastic gas cans in use throughout the state.
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3. This sign is smaller than the palm of your hand and only in
English. It’s often on the inside of the pump
marquee where it’s hardest to read.
4. This sign is on the side of the pump, but again about the
size of the palm of your hand.
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5. Find the warning sign while standing on the ground- it’s
almost hidden.
6. The ATM and pay signs are larger than the multiple warning
here.
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7. This is a Shell sign on the island post that includes
international symbols for better understanding and some
larger type with the detailed warnings.
8. The detail of the shell sign says no cell phones- not a NFPA
1 requirement The unapproved container symbol
says portable containers are OK, but doesn’t communicate that
they should be on the ground.
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9. This Chevron Sign is large and the symbol used is clear for
gas cans.
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10. The detail of the Chevron International Symbol says clearly
no filling in vehicle versus the Shell sign that
says portable containers are OK Only. The Chevron sign fails to
say use approved containers only.
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Report on Proposals – June 2014 NFPA
30A_______________________________________________________________________________________________30A-
Log #23
_______________________________________________________________________________________________Douglas
B. Horne, DBHorne LLC
Revise text to read: 8.2.1* In major repair garages where
CNG vehicles are repaired or stored, the area within 455 mm (18
in.) of the
ceiling, if subjected to ignitible concentrations of gas, shall
be designated a Class I, Division 2 hazardous
(classified)location.
The storage or parking of CNG vehicles pose no additional hazard
when compared to liquid fuelvehicles. The CNG fuel systems are
completely closed systems and are not designed to vent natural gas
except in theevent of a significant fire in order to protect the
on-board fuel storage cylinders.As stated in the Annex A 8.2.1 it
was assumed the hazard that this requirement was designed to
address was the
release on 150% of the volume of the largest CNG tank.This was
considered to be a valid hazard in the 1990's since there were
several occurrences of premature releases
from cylinder mounted pressure relief devices (PRDs) which
involved the full contents of the cylinder. There were anumber
reasons for those releases and all have all been addressed by
industry and resolved. There has not been apremature release by a
PRD since 1999. The industry is now reviewing industry operations
to determine what wouldconstitute a credible release of natural gas
in a major repair facility. With the wide use of cylinder mounted
normallyclosed solenoid valves tied to the ignition switch the
release of gas from a fuel cylinder is eliminated in
normaloperations. The highest probability of release would be the
opening of a fuel line fitting by a technician without
properlyventing the lines. In this case the total amount of gas
released would be less than 150 cf. This amount of gas
woulddisperse in the air and would not normally constitute a
ignitable concentration of gas. Documentation of the researchbeing
done will be made available as needed.
24Printed on 10/16/2012
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From: Mark HilbertTo: Benedetti, BobSubject: RE: NFPA 30ADate:
Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:47:35 PMAttachments: NFPA 30A Section 6
7-Draft Revision.doc
Hello Bob, I hope all is well with you. Sorry I haven’t
contacted you sooner. I have put a draft together of what I thought
might work for the revision of 6.7. However, I do have a couple of
questions. I was not really sure about the exception for
intrinsically safe circuits. The NEC does not have this exception
so I may not have placed it in the right location or perhaps it
should be thereat all. The other question I had was related to the
“not being closer than 20 ft. to the dispenser with the
disconnect.” If I am reading it correctly, as currently written in
30A, the “notcloser than 20 ft.” applies to both attended and
unattended sites. In the NEC it is only included in the unattended
language. It seems to me there are locations where there is a
smallcubical one of the islands where the attendant stays. It
appears this would not be a conflict with the NEC but it may
conflict with the requirements in 30A. The draft revision I
puttogether does not include the “not closer than 20 ft.” in the
attended requirements so that may have to change depending on how
the task group feels. I am looking forward to your thoughts on
this. All the best, Mark From: Benedetti, Bob
[mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011
11:42 AMTo: Hilbert, MarkSubject: NFPA 30A Hi, Mark: I appreciate
your willingness to work on the section of 30A dealing with
emergency disconnects. Attached is an MSWord document of Section
6.7 of 30A. You’ll note there has already been an attempt at fixing
this, but I still am not sure of the intent. Let me know if you
need anything else. As we discussed, I will speak to the Technical
Committee Chair, Al Ramirez, about a Task Group. Our objective is
to (1) clean the language so it is clear as to whatwe expect; (2)
provide an explanatory annex, with a few diagrams of examples. It
was a pleasure seeing you at NFPA. Bob Benedetti cc
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6.7 Emergency Electrical Disconnects.
Fuel dispensing systems shall be provided with one or more
clearly identified emergency shutoff devices or electrical
disconnects. Resetting from an emergency shutoff condition shall
require manual intervention and the manner of resetting shall be
approved by the authority having jurisdiction.
Exception: Intrinsically safe electrical equipment need not
meet these requirements.
6.7.1 Emergency shutoff devices or electrical disconnects shall
be installed in accordance with (1) – (4):
(1) Located in approved locations
(2) Located not more than 30 m (100 ft) from the fuel dispensing
devices that they serve
(3) Disconnect power to all dispensing devices; to all remote
pumps serving the dispensing devices; to all associated power,
control, and signal circuits; and to all other electrical equipment
in the hazardous (classified) locations surrounding the fuel
dispensing devices
(4) Interconnected when more than one emergency shutoff device
or electrical disconnect is provided.
6.7.2 At attended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the shutoff
devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to the
attendant.
6.7.3 At unattended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the
shutoff devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to
patrons.
6.7.3.1 The shutoff devices or disconnect(s) required by 6.7
shall not be located not less than 6 m (20 ft) from the dispensing
devices they serve.
6.7.3.2 At least one additional shutoff device or disconnect to
those required by 6.7 shall be readily accessible to each group of
dispensing devices on an individual island.
bbenedettiText Box ATTACHMEN No. A6
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Attachment № A6
6.7 Emergency Electrical Disconnects.
Fuel dispensing systems shall be provided with one or more
clearly identified emergency shutoff devices or electrical
disconnects. Resetting from an emergency shutoff condition shall
require manual intervention and the manner of resetting shall be
approved by the authority having jurisdiction.
Exception: Intrinsically safe electrical equipment need not meet
these requirements.
6.7.1 Emergency shutoff devices or electrical disconnects shall
be installed in accordance with (1) – (4):
(1) Located in approved locations
(2) Located not more than 30 m (100 ft) from the fuel dispensing
devices that they serve
(3) Disconnect power to all dispensing devices; to all remote
pumps serving the dispensing devices; to all associated power,
control, and signal circuits; and to all other electrical equipment
in the hazardous (classified) locations surrounding the fuel
dispensing devices
(4) Interconnected when more than one emergency shutoff device
or electrical disconnect is provided.
6.7.2 At attended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the shutoff
devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to the
attendant.
6.7.3 At unattended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the
shutoff devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to
patrons.
6.7.3.1 The shutoff devices or disconnect(s) required by 6.7
shall not be located not less than 6 m (20 ft) from the dispensing
devices they serve.
6.7.3.2 At least one additional shutoff device or disconnect to
those required by 6.7 shall be readily accessible to each group of
dispensing devices on an individual island.
bbenedettiText Box
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Wayne Dispensers
• Area to bottom of electronics is hazardous
• Class 1: ignitable vapors can be present some of the time
• Class 2: ignitable vapors are not likely to occur during
normal operating conditions
bbenedettiText Box ATTACHMENT No. A7
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Gilbarco Dispensers
To top of nozzle boot