Sub Lord Speaks Part 2

SUBLORD SPEAKS

PART- 2

BY Late Prof. K.M. SUBRAMANIAM

Edit~d by Sothidamamani

K. SUBRAMANIAM S/o. Sothida Mannan. Jyothish Marthand

(Late) Prof. K.S. KRISHNAMURTI

part 2 is a follow-up of part 1

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI . 1

SUB LORD SPEAKS

Now I take up the horoscope of one police officer (IPS) born on 14 -9- 1945 at 8 .30 a .m . at Tinnevelly. 8°44'/7r-44' Ayanamsa: 23-4-55.

IX 1·33·51

VI 2-33-51 VII 2-45-29 VIII 2-33-51 Ms 10-38-5 Rah 12-9-5 Sat 29-19-5

X 0·33-51 v 0-33-51 N irayana Bhava Venus

Chakram 24-4-5

Balance in 1\ilercury period XI 0-33-51

IV 0-33-51 11-4-18 Mercury 12-46-5

Sn 27-15-5

Ket. 12-9·5 Mo01 XII 2-33-51

1111 -33-51 21 -4-20 12-42-39 Jupiter

II 2-33-51 11-4-5

Planet Sublord 'Planet Sublord

Sun Moon Mars Mercury

Moon Venus Saturn Mercury

Jupiter Moon Venus Mars Saturn .Sun Rahu Saturn Kethu Mercury

The native of this horoscope is an IPS officer, direct recruit to Police Dept, by 5-7-1969

Let us discuss the period then. It was the major period of Venus from 2-2-64 to 2-2.-84

Venus is in X, owning I & VIII no planets in its stars and is in the star of mercury in XI and so Venus signifies X,I.XI & VI 11 .

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Venus is· in the sub of Mars. deposited in the star of Rahu which as node represents. Mercury in XI. So it promises good status for the native in Venus period.

He was posted to police dept during .July '1969 in the bukthi of Moon (2-6-68 to 2-2-70.)

Moon is in the lind. in the star of mercury in XI , and so Moon is a XI th significator to give happy results. And Moon is in the sub of Venus, posited in X. having no planets in its stars, & in the star of Mercury in XI.

Hence the service started by July 69, during Moon bukthi.

Now he is elevated to the status of I. G. on 17 -11 -1991 and it is in the bukthi of Rahu in Moon period from 2-7-91 to 2-1 -93.

You may please note that Rahu is in IX in its own star. So it is a significator of IX fully. IX does not give elevations in profession.

How then this promotion?

Look in to the sub lord of Rahu. It is saturn and saturn is in the star of Jupiter owning VI and no planet in VI. Hence the elevation in service.

As Jupiter. the star lord of the sub lord being in XII. he is posted to some insignificant branches in Police Dept.

Promotion came on 17 -11 -91 and then it was Jupiter anthra. Jupiter under stellar status signifies II & X & thro sub lord Moon. in the star of Mercury in XI owning IX & XII .

So, the sublord moon signifies XI & feebly IX & XII. Hence he got promotion corresponding to this ·anthra.

He will be getting Jupiter bukthi from Jan 1993 I predicted him, a status in that bukthi.

Why? Jupiter is in XII. (saturn in Jupiter star) & so Jupiter has no Xllth signification.

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 3 Jupiter is in the star of Moon in II owning X. It is good &

promises good matter to happen in this buktbi, professionally.

As Jupiter is in the sub of Moon again, the good matter promised by stellar status, will get fructi fied in Jupiter bukthi. as the sub lord Moon signifies XI, having been deposited with star of mercury in XI. So, sure elevation in this bukth i & he will be in the centre of power.

He had serious health problem in Oct/ Nov 1990. It was Venus bukthi then, in Sun period (between 2-2-89 to 2-2-90)

Discuss Venus:

Venus is in X & no planet in its star and owns Lagna and VIII. No planet in lagna & VIII . And so venus is a full significator of I & X & VIII. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in XI owning IX & XII. There are planets in IX & XII.

Hence Venus is a full significator of lagna, X XI & VIII. This is stellar status and do not tell such a gravity of bad health situation.

He had heart trouble then, How?

Venus is in the sub of Mars in IX owning VII, (no planet Ill Its stars & in VII) So Mars is a full significator of IX & VII in full. VII tells Ganda status,

Mars is placed in the star of Rahu and as node connected himself to XII also being in the house of Mercury.

So, VII I & XII combination has given him seriousness and affliction and Rahu represents Mercury & it is in Leo, telling heart trouble.

Moon period and Moon bukthi was from 2-2-90 to 2-12-90. Moon is in the star of Mercury in XI & in the sub of Venus in X No planet in its star, I & VIII, so the sub Moon gets IX VIII.

Moon is in the star of mercury in XI owning IX & XII.

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VIII & XII got him operated upon.

Lagna & XI saved his life.

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IX & XII took him to foreign land (USA) for treatment.

Now, I like to point out one matter to prove the system of KP to be very precise

The KP students are already aware that Mars is the planet to give service in Police, Military etc, etc. Note this officers chart. The Xth cusp falls in Cancer 0-33-5 1 so the sub lord of the Xth cusp is Mars. This Mars is in the star of Rahu, as node representing Mercury in Leo and in the sub of Saturn a significator of Vlth . house, So service in Police Department. As Xth is in a way connected to Leo, gives him the managerial capacity, in acting as a central figure of a powerful organization.

Now 1 am dicussing the birth chart of Mr. Anantha Krishnan born at 8-35 p.m. 1ST on 21-10-1967 at Kancheepuram 12.50 79.45. Ayanamsa 23-23-20

Saturn Rahu Mom II

14-12-9 4-22-47 8-49·56 15-2-50 Xl13-2-50 XJI17-2-50 118-52-39

.. X Ill

10-2-50 Nirayana Bhava 11-2-50

Balance in Sun Jupiter period 6-98-19

IX 0-6-9 days IV10-2-50 11-2-50

Venus 19-5-27

VIII Mercury

15-2-50 VII 23-54·24 v Vl17·2·50

MS 18-32-39 Ke4-22-47

13-2-50 5-32-41

Sn 4-8-22

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He consulted me if marriage is to take place early, as being planned by his parent. and as he is venturing to change his job for betterment at this ,tincture

I made a thorough calculation as above and told him he will certainly get married in the bukthi of Saturn now on (from 6-6-90 to 12-4-93).

. Saturn is in XI in its own star, owning IX & X has no planet in rts stars & IX & X also. So under stellar status it signifies.

Saturn is in the sub of Rahu in XI in Aries owned by XI, IX, X. Mars in VII owning VII further Rahu, the sub lord, is in the star of Kethu in V.

As no planets are tenenting Rahu stars. Rahu itself duly representing Mars owning VII in VII, would bring about the marriage. So I predicted him that there are good prospects for him in getting married in Saturn bukthi.

He came and told me last week that his marriage is fixed to be celebrated during March'92.

Now I take up the horoscope of my student in KP born on 13-5-48 at 12-07 noon at Kancheepuram 12-50/79-45

Ayanamsa 23-7-26

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Moon Mars Mercury

Rahu Saturn Moon Jupitar

Jupiter Moon Venus Saturn Saturn Moon Rahu Jubiter Kethu Jupiter

J

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I Sa tum Raru Moon II ' ·12·9 4·22·47 8·49-56

15·2-50 'I 13·2·50 XII 17·2·50 118·52·39

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I X Ill 10·2·50 Nirayana Bhava 11-2-50

r-- Balance in Sun period Jupiter

6-00·19 IX 0 -6-9 days IV10·2-50 11 -2-50 Venus 19·5·27

Vlll Mercury

15·2·50 VII 23·54·24 v Vl17-2-50 MS 18-32·39 Ke4·22-47 13·2·50

5·32·41 Sn 4-8·22

The native of this birth chart is now runni 1g the major period of Mercury from 16-2-1980 to 16-2-97.

Mercury is in the star of Moon in XI owning lagna and so signifies I & XI. And is in the sub of Jupiter in V signifying Ill, having been placed in the star of Kethu . As node Kethu represents Venus in XI.

Any attempt for her ~~rriage or getting service, was futi l ; and even in the bukthi of Sun she neither got married nor secured any service.

You may note, Mercury is not signifying VII either thro' stellar position ; r sub lord status. So it could not bring about marriage. She is r.ow running Rahu bukthi.

Reverting back to Sun bukthi, all trials for getting service failed badly.

Let us discuss Sun bukthi (1 0-5-86 to 16-3-87) sun is in its own star in X owning II No planet in II. Is it not good and powerful for securing a good job? Nothing happened. Why?

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Sun is in the sub of Rahu in IX and as node it acquires the strength of Mars and so signifies I & V also, a negative force for getting service.

Moon bukthi started on 16~3-87 and she got a lucrative job on 10-4-87 and she is continuing happily there.

Why in Moon bukthi?

Moon is in the star in Jupiter in V, owning VI & IX, not very encouraging.

But it is in the sub of Saturn, placed in the star of Mercury posited in Xth, Moon gets the Xth signification thro sub and she got into service in this bukthi.

So students may note that Sun fully signifying II & X could not give her service, where as Moon signifying V & IX & VI , gave her service, as Moon thro' sub signifies X fully and Sun thro sub signified IX, VI & XI.

Let me now request the readers students of K.P., to turn to page No.3 June 1991 issue, where in you will find horoscope of Chi. GVR.

Now, let me recall my article "sub speaks XX," where in I ' used TRIGON regarding accidents, manhandlings etc.

Here you may notice that the boy now running the major period of from 27 ~4-86 for 20 years and current ruling the bukthi of Moon from 27~08~90 27-9-92.

Moon is in XI I and no planet in stars, and so signifies IV & XII fully.

Moon is in the star of Mercury in VI owning Ill & VI & so Ill & VI.

Summing up under stellar strength Moon signifies. Ill, VI & XII. Here XII one of the houses representing IVth trigon consisting of IV, VII & XII, which bring about accidents manhandling and sudden bad matters etc. etc.

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Moon is in the sub of Venus in IV its own star and-so signifies

II , IV & fully.

Hence, rv1oon, thro' sub gets the SiQnification of IV being one of the hou; .s constituting the 4th TRIGON viz IV, VIII , XII

The efft- ;t is felt here, as the boy had involved himself in an accident b ·· a sudden fall from his Motor cycle, while in fast movement

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so suddently crossed by a Dog. There was nothing serious, but he had deep scratches all over the body, more in

his leg~

It happened on 29-12~91, when it was the Anthra . o~ Ven~s from 17~ 12-91, 27-3-92. As discussed above Venus ISm IV, m its own star and so signifies IV, VII and is in the sub of Sun.

Sun is in VI in the star of Mars in VIII. The Sun's star and so VI & V also. Summing up Sun signifies VI , VIII, V & I.

So Venus the Anthra lord gets IV, VI & VIII thro sub and so the st~llar signification of IV (one of the houses of Trigon IV) is implemented thro its sub signification of VIII (being one of the

houses of the same

Hence, the accident in this anthra and impact was so bad on his mind and he refrained from taking the MOTOR BIKE for

a week.

As Venus is in the sub of Sun signifying I & V also, nothing so serious to his person to the extent of hospitalizing him.

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SUB LORD SPEAKS

With the blessings of my Late, Guruji Sri KSK, 1 feel, 1 am progressing well, with this series of Articles unders the above caption, and these are more useful for the KP followers, while attempting predictions.

Reverting to the subject, I take .up the horoscope of Mr. v. S. born on 26-6-1933, at 10-35 p. ,. 1ST at Madras 13-04 80-17. Ayanamsa 22-54-52.

Planet ~ Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Saturn Venus Sun Moon Moon Sa urn Sun Mars Jupiter Rahu Rahu Mercury Mercury Kethu Jupiter Jupiter Saturn

v 10-46

1113-46 Ill

IV 14·46 Sn11 ·42· 13

16-46 Venus 29-12·37

Mercury Rahu 6-40-50

8-37-27 Nirayana Bhava

V17·46 18-23 Moen

Chakram 22·20-20 Balance in Mercury

Sa tum period at Birth VII 8-23

9y-9m-6d Ke th.J 22-43-27 8-37-27 XII 7-46 Jupiter

23-:D-40

Mars

IX 10·46 X 14·46 IX 16·46 1-44-8

VIII 13·46

He was running the major period of Venus from 2~4-1950 to . 2-4-1970.

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Venus is in V in the star of Jupiter in VII owning II & XI, having no planets in II & XI. So he signifies VII, II & XI fully There are planets in Venus stars. He entered Railway service on 2-7-54 It was then the bukthi of Sun in the major period of Venus 2-1-53

to 2-8-54.

With II & XI signification, Venus could not bring him service in its bukthi, as Venus was in the sub of SUN, placed in V posited in the star of Rahu in lagna, as node Rahu representing Saturn

in XI owning XII.

He could get Railway service in the bukti"li of Sun, as Sun thro steller position signifies lagna, but as it is placed in the sub of Saturn and Saturn signifies owning VI. Since it is in the star

of Moon in IV.

!n Venus bukthi, the parents planned for the marriage of Mr. V.S. It d id not come up though Venus is placed in the star of Jupiter in V II duly owning II & XI planets in II & XI) Why?

Venus is in the sub of Sun, owning VII but cannot signify V II, as Mars is in Sun star. As Sun is in the star of Rahu in I it

signifies lagna.

So, Venus thro sub, does not connect itself to either VII or II or XI, but to lagna only. Hence the trial for his marriage did not succeed. Next, sun bukthi gave him service only, but not marriage though Sun was rlaced in Vowning VII.

Then in Moon bukthi (2-8-54 to 2-4-56) the matter was taken up, but fa iled to come up, though Moon is placed in the star of Mercury owning V in V, as Moon through sub has nothing to do

with II or XI or VII.

Marriage was celebrated on 3-3-1957. It was the bukthi of Mars from 2-4-56 to 2-6-57. Mars is in VII No planet in its star if so signifies Ill & X, apart from VII, Mars Is In the star of Sun in V owning VII. Hence stellar wise it signifies V. VII , Ill, X & VII it is an

encouraging one .


As Mars is in the sub of Jupiter placed in VII, duly owning II & XI & further the same Jupiter acquires Vth also, through its stellar strength.

So Marriage was celebrated in this bukthi. It was the Saraswathi pooja day during 1987 (30-9-87) he was involved in a major accident.

Then he was running the major period of Mars from 2-4-86 to 2-6-93.

Mars is in VII, in Kanya rasi in the star of Sun in V, owning VII. Mars owns Ill & X. Here no VIII is involved.

Look into the sub. It is Jupiter in the star of Venus owning IV. No planet in IV. Now I invoke the matters of the IVth trigon consisting of IV, VIII & XII matters.

So through sub, Mars is imbided with matters of IVth Trigon also. Hence in that period, he is prone to accidents, man handling etc.

On the day of occurance, it was Jupiter bukthi (17 -9-87 to 23-8-88).

Jupiter is in the star of Venus in V owning IV (No planet in IV) · Jupiter is in the sub of Saturn in XII owning XII. Saturn signifies VI also.

He was fortunate to purchase .a House in a posh locality and it was registered in his name on 9-8-91.

Then he was ruling the major period of Mars, signifying VII, Il l & X; (No planet in its stars). Mars is in the star of Sun in Vowing VII.

But he ism the sub of Jupiter, placed in the star of Venus in V owning IV. So through sub Mars signifies V, IV.

The bukthi ruled on 9-8-91, was that of Kethu (5-4-91 to 2-9-91 ).

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Kethu is in its own star in VII & signifies VII only. As node it represents' Sun in V. Then how the purchase of house could be done in this Kethu bukthi.

Look into the sub. It is Jupiter sub and it is in the star of Venus in V owning IV, no planet tenants IV.

This brought about the ownership of a good house on 9-8-91.

Now I take up a Horary chart duly worked out by Mr. Rajendran a full fledged' KP follower of Mylapore. On the night of 13-4-91 at 11-1 p.m. at Chennai 13-04 80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-43-26

His query was "Will i be able to build a house, for which I am taking all possible steps. "

No. taken by him 89 (1 -249)

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Saturn Venus Kethu Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mercury Venus Kethu Moon Jupiter Venus

Sn29·34-18 X17-5-20 Mom Mercury(R) X 7-5·20 Ms 12-1-34

15·18-46 1-31-18 Venus Ketru VIII IX 6 S-20 7-8-20

29-56-18 5·5·20

XIIS-5·20 VII 5·33·20 Nirayana Bhava

Jupiter

Chakram 10-8· 50

Balance in Saturn

Satum period

12-13·50 1y·11 m-2d 15-33·20 Vl 6·5·20

Raru 29-56-18 IV 7·5·20 1116-5-20 115·5·20 v 7-5·20

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Here the sublord of IVth cusp is Mercury.

So, Mr. Rajendran had discussed the strength of Mercury. Mercury is in 1-31-18 in Aries and so in the star of Kethu posited in XI.

So, he fina lised, as the IVth cuspal sub lord signifies XI, that the matters taken up for House , will be successfully Maneuvered.

And he visited my place the next day with the fully worked out Horary figure as above and with the above result duly indicated in the work sheet of the Horary.

He wanted my opinion about the result indicated therein. At the moment Mr. Mohan was present.

As usual he dragged Rajendran to the 'Sub theory and it was discussed.

The sub lord of the IVth cusp, Mercury is placed in the sub of Venus, placed in X and no planet in its stars and so Venus fully. signifies Ill & X. Both houses are detriment for the house matters.

And further Venus is in the star of Sun in VIII (monetary troubles). ·

So, Rajendran got impressed that his house matter cannot fructify, any how leaving the prediction he said 'I am still hopeful of progressing the house matter'.

He really tried his best to raise money and take up construction. But he could not progress an inch.

He is now fully impressed upon sublord strength and looks into sublord before he spells out prediction.

A female consultant of mine by Name Mrs. S. brought her daughter's horoscope and the particulars are as under.

Date of birth : 26-9-1965

Time : 12-50 Noon

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Place of birth: Dharmapuri 12-15/78-12 Ayanamsa 23-21-40

And the 'birth chart is given below:

IV 20-49

Sa tum 19·2-23 11117-49

1114-49

113-23

V2:>-49 Rah.J

14-24-7 VI 17· 49

Nirayana Bhava Chakram

Balance in Mars period

6y-1 m-4days

Xll17·49 Keth.J 14-24-7

Mars1-4-10

Venus 21-13-43 XI 2:>·49

Jupiter 7-3·52

Vll13-23

VIII 14-40

IX 17-49

Mercury 8 -34-38 Mom

25· 11 · 32 Sn 9·40· 35

X 2:>·49

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus Jupiter

Moon Rahu Saturn Moon

Mars Mars Rahu Jupiter

Mercury Venus Kethu Rahu

Jupiter Rahu

She said that there is heavy matrimonial troubles for her daughter and virtually she has been sent out of her husband's house, to re-enter the house only with the specific amount he had demanded. Now she is in my house with her child. she said, with a heavy heart. Now the girl is running the major period of Jupiter from 30-10-89 and It Is for 16 years.

Jupiter bukthi was between 30-10-89 and 18-12-91. Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in V and in the sub Rahu signifying X & VIII.

I told her that the differences have come up from Oct'89 itself. She accepted the date, with implicit gesture.


She further said that during Dec'91 the force for money was much and differences widened between the couple and in the middle of January 1992, she has been sent out of the house.

From 18 Dec'91 it was Saturn bukthi. Saturn is in the star of Rahu in V, but placed in the sub of Moon in X, posited in the star of Mars in XI owning XII, no planet in XII.

Here, X & XII has deepened the trouble.

But as Moon gets the signification of XI, I consoled telling that there can be no break in the marital life and she will get back to her husband. The mother went away with good hopes.

Let me now discuss the horoscope of the girl duly weighing the strength of the significations of planets as regards the matrimonial life of the girl.

Steller Planet Significations Significations thro Sub lord IX Sun XI,VI,I&JV XI, XII Moon X, VIII XI, XII, VI, I, IV Mars VI, I, IV IX, VII Mercury XI, VI, I, IV v Jupiter VIII &X VI,XJ,I,IV Venus v v Saturn XI, V,XII X, VIII Rahu v Xl,lll,·ll Kethu X, VIII

From the above assessment and break up of strength thro significations, you may find that all planets are having detrimental significations thro sub lord strength, for a happy matrimonial life, except Venus and Rahu getting Vth signification thro sub lord strength, but stellar wise VI, I, IV, X, VIII,

The above discussion is only for the Students of K.P. to put them in the. way to finalise the strength of a Native's birth chart.

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A letter had been received from a K.P. follower from. Bangalore during September '91, with the birth particulars of a lady as under :

Date ot birth : 16-9-52

Time : 7-50 a.m. I.S.T.

Place :Madras

He desired' to know the matrimonial life of the native, duly furnishing certain dates of events occurred.

Let us first discuss if the dates given, correspond with the periods, .if we apply the sub lord theory.

The horoscope is prepared under. K.P. Method using ayanamsa 23-10-4 7 for 195'2.

Jtpiter (A) 11 5-20-45 Nl 2-20-45 IV 28·20· 45 27-43-27

v 26-20-45 XII Keth.l 28-20-45 Nirayana Bhava 26-31-26

Chakram Balanc:~ in Kethu

MOO'l period 0-44-~

6y-1 m-9da.ys Mercury Xl26·20·45 23-28-42

Vl28-20-45

Sn 0-27-51 Mars Sa tum 19-17-45

Vll4·33~ 11 ·48·24 IX 2·20·45 VIII Venus

5·20·45 23-8-25

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Planets Sublord Planets SublcJrd

Sun Moon

Rahu Ketu

Mars _ Ketu Mercury Saturn Jupiter Moon

Venus Satum Rahu Ketu

Sun Venus Jupiter Jupiter

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The native of th is birth chart got married on 2-5-1976, in the major period of Venus and bukthi of Mercury.

Let us discuss Venus. Of course Venus is in VI and owns II & VII . But Mercury is tenanting Venus star.

So, Venus is a feeble significator of II & VII, Venus is in the star of Moon in Bowning V. Finally Venus signifies V fully, II & VII feebly. Venus is in VI in the sub of Sun in VI its own star.

So, Venus, indicates marriage. and marital life with marital trouble also.

The marriage date. falls in, Mercury bukthi (from April '75 to Feb'78) Mercury own Ill & IV. There are planets in its star and it is in the star of Venus in VI. So it is a .full significator of VI, II & VII. .

Mercury is in the sub of Saturn owning XI & XII, placed in VI. in' the star of Moon in V owning V:

Mercury gets the full ,signification of XI, XII, VI & V. (No planet in Saturn star). So ,during this bukthi she got. married interms of XI &V The significations of XII & VI, gives its colour and she was not sailing married life smoothly.

You may note though Mercury owned IV, getting the significators ofV & XI thro sub, she delivered a child on 3-6-77, during Mercury bukthi itself. ··

She was running th.e major period of Sun from April 79 to Apri185.

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Sun under stellar position signifies VI fully, as it is in its own star in VI owning VI In spite of this adverse signification for married life, she has no break in her marital life during this period

of Sun. How!

Sun is in the sub of Rahu in XI, having no planet in its stars, and so fully signifies XI, Rahu is posited in the star of Mars in VIII, owning Lagna, With pin pricks, XI sustained her.

She was obliged to leave her husband's place during November '89 finally, with her children and came back to her

father once and for all.

It was the major period of Moon (from April'85 to Apri1'95).

Moon in V in the star of Ketu in V. You now note that the period of Sun, a full significator of VI on all counts could sustain her marital life, because Sun was in the sub of Rahu a full significator of XI. Whereas Moon a full significator of V, could not keep· her in her husbands place. A permanent break away has) come in this period of Moon, Why? Moon is ~n t~e sub of Ketu, who is placed in the star of Mercury, a full s1gmficator of V, Ill & IV. IV is a bad detriment for marital life.

Nov'89 falls in the bukthi of Saturn (from July '89 to Feb '91} Saturn is in VI in the star of Moon in V. It is in the sub of Venus in

VI , placed in star of Sun in VI owning VI.

She went away from her husband is place never to return

and a legal suit is on between them.

Let me take up another Natal chart of Smt, Jothi born on 30-9-1966 at 5-11 p.m at Hyderabad 17 -22/78-30.

The native of this birth chart go married during March '86. It was the major period ~f Venus from Oct '82 to Oct '2002). Venus is in VII th . These are planets in Venus starts and so Venus does not signifies Vllth, but Venus is placed in the star of Sun in VII, and so Venus gets the Vllth 'signification.


Venus is in the sub of Saturn, who signifies V & XI. Hence Venus has strength to give marriage for the girl.

Ayanamsa 23-22-30

Moen 112·45 22-6-2 Ill 3·45

Salurn (A) Raru IV 29·45 v 24-45

2·3-4 24-50-2

Juipter

127-16-:l> 7-3-52 Nirayana Bhava Vl23-45

Chakram Ms29-9-Q

Balance in lv1ercury period

X1123-45 9y-Om-18days VII 27·16-:l>

Venus

X 29-45 Ketru 3-18-50 Xl23·45

IX 3·45 24·50-2 Sn13-29-42 Vlll2·45 Mercury

28-23-43

Planets Sublord I

Planets Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Saturn Moon Sun Saturn Rahu Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury

. Mercury Saturn Kethu Mercury Jupiter Mercury

She got marned m the bukthi of Sun (from 18-2-86 to 18-2-87). Discuss Sun.

Sun is in VII and there is Venus in Sun star. Sun is in the star of Moon'in Lagna owning VI. Hence, Sun is not a significatorof VII and on the contrary signifies the detrimental houses for · marriage i.e. I & VI. Then how the marriage celebrates during March 86 in this Sun bukthi. .

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Now. look into the sub lord of Sun.lt is Rahu, placed in II. No planet tenants Rahu star, and so Rahu signifies II fully.

In the major period of Venus signifying VII, under stellar strength, and V & XI thro sub lord signification, in the bukthi of Sun, signifying II thro sub strength, gave her, marriage. Apart from Rahu getting the lind signification, having been placed in the star of Venus in VII, Rahu gets Vllth signification also.

The parents of the native carT'e to me for consultation and it was Rahu bukthi from Dec '89 to Dec '92.

I booked into Rahu, and it signifies VII, 111, IV & VIII. It was not happy further the sub lord of Rahu was Mercury, signifying VI, IX & XI told them that the present bukthi indicates a serious type of disease, she will be suffering currently.

They accpted and said that Doctors tell that her Pancreas is affected (Pancreas is the gland nearer to stomach supplying digesting secretion).

I told them that it is a slow process and the seriousness of the affliction will be upto Dec 92.

The students may please note that the bukthi lord Rahu is connected to Virgo thro star, and Cancer thro Sub Cancer stands for stomach and Virgo for digesting process.

Another Horoscope I shall deal with of the native Mr. Hadhara Venkatarama is born on 3-2-1962 at 8-10 a.m. at Madras 13°-4'/800-14

Ayanamsa 23-19-9 and the birth chart is as under.


Sun Venus Venus Venus Moon Mercury Saturn Moon Mars Kethu Rahu Rahu Mercury Rahu Kethu Rahu Jupiter Rahu


II 22-5-16 Ill rv 21-s-16 23-29-41 V17-5-16

I 16-21-47 VI 14-5-16

RatlJ

Nirayana Bhava 24-59-31

Chakram Mo 25--13-38 Bal<¥1oe in Venus Ke 24-56-31 period Ju 24-51-24 3y-6111-3days ve 22-5-18 Sn 20-28-38 Vll16-21-47 xn 14-5-16

Sa 10.16·38 Mars 7·35·4

Moen 24-19-38 X21-5-16 IX23-29-41 VIII

XI 17-5-16 22·5-16

The nat1ve was runnrng the maJor period of Mars from 6-8-81 to 6-8-88.

Mars is in XI, ie the star of Sun in XII, owning VII , and in the sub of Kethu i~ XII, placed in the star of Mars in XI, owning Ill & X (No planet 1n Ill & X). In this period he had a successful educational career and entered in service on 24-6-1988 also.

~ars, though virtually a full significator of XII, thro sub, he attained X, XI, & Ill significations and so his life· was sweet with good happenings, in its period.

~e entered Bank service on 24-6-88, when it was the major penod of Mars and bukthi of Moon 6-1 -88 to 6-8-88. How Moon gave him good service?

In the first instance, Moon bukthi is in the major period of Mars, a full significator of XI, X & Ill thro sub strength.

T_henas regards to Moon itself, it is in the star of Venus in XII, own1~g IV & IX. so IV, IX &. XII cannot give any service. Now

· look mto the sub lord of Moon. It is Mercury. Mercury is in XII,

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owning V & VIII. But Mercury attains the significations, of XI, X & Ill as it is placed in the star of Mars in XI.

That Is why he got into Bank service on 24-6-88 in Moon bukthi.

One unhappy event for this gentlemen, needs astrological discussion. He was involved into a serious scooter Accident on 6-8-89, and the very bad part of it is, that it ended into Amputation of the Ankle on9-8-89.

How it happened?

His .Rahu period started on 6-8-88 and the bukthi of Rahu is upto 18-4-91.

Discuss Rahu. Rahu is in VI, in the star of Mercury in XII owning V & VIII.

Rahu' is in its own sub and so it fully represents Moon who is a significator of VI &XII.

Here the IVth Trigon interferes (IV, VIII, XII).

Rahu with its signification of XII & VIII, under stellar signification, as said above duly interfered by IVth Trigon, got him involved in a, serious accident and as XII th signification is also much present there, Amputation also occured on the 3rd day. As Rahu has no planets in its stars and placed in VI, the Vlth signification prevails, and at the same time, as i1 is placed in its own sub it gives the planet a special power to continue his service also in this period of Rahu despite the fact that Rahu gets XII, V & VIII signification thro sub ... (I note if a planet is in its own sub it fully signifies that house it occupies).

Yet another birth chart of Mr. V. S. Chandrasekar is discussed her under.

Born on 4/5-11-1964 at 2.2 a.m. 1ST at ONGOLE 15°-30'/ 80°-6' .

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 23 Ayanamsa.23-20-50

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord s un Moon Venus Rahu Moon Mercury Saturn Sun Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury Mercury Mars Kethu Venus Jupiter Mars

' The boys father had purchased a house in Madras for him and it was on 9-8-91.

VIII ll<a>-10-34 Rah.J 19· 10-34 Jt..piter(R) X a:J-10·34 1·38·45

28-51-19 Xl19·10·34

VII XII 19-1-8 Nirayana Bhava 19·10-34

Chakram

Balance in Jupiter period

VI 9y-7m-1day Mars 10· 10.34 5·58·33

119-1-8

Moen IVa:J- 10·34 25·19-51 Venus

Keth.J Mercury 11120·10-34 12·2·16 1-38-45 1-14-00 Slf'l II 18·10·34

19-6-50

He is running the major period of Saturn which ends by 5-6-1993, and so from 3-11-90 to 5-6-93 it is Jupiter bukthi.

No planets in Saturn star and it is placed in VI. Hence, Saturn becomes a full significator of VI & VII. Saturn is in the star of Mars in XII, owning IV & IX. Hence, Saturn thro stellar position becomes VI VII IV & IX and so the matter are service, marriage house and about his father . '

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Saturn is in the sub of Sub and Sun owns leigna and placed in II. No planet in Sun star. Sun signifies X as it is in swathi in the star of Rahu in X.

Hence, the above 4 matters have happened in this period in different bukthis.

It was Moon bukthi from 8-5-85 to 8-12-86. Moon signifies V & VII I thro stellar status, but as it is in the sub of Mercury it signifies Ill, II & XI. (Note no planets in Mercury stars). So in the major period of Saturn, a full significator thro star & II thro sub. He got employment in the bukthi of Moon signifying II & XI thro sub.

It was Mars bukthi from 8-12-86 to 17-1 -88. Mars in IV, in terms of IXth cusp which tells about father, Mars in the star of Kethu in VIII from IXth Mars is in the sub of Rahu placed in the star of Mars again in IV owning VIII & Lagna.

In terms of Trigon IV, the planet Mars in IV & connected to V III. thro stellar position and thro Sub connected to IV, VI II & Lagna (in terms of IX) the father was involved with serious accident while, returning from his office and hospitalised for more than a week and got recovered without a major scar as the sub lord Rahu signified lagna also.

It is now Jupiter bukthi from 23-11-90 to 5-6-93. Jupiter is in IX in the star of Sun in II (No planet in Sun stars) . So it signifies II & I. Jupiter is in the sub of. Mars, so signifies IV, How? Mars is in the star of Kethu in IV.

As Jupiter is connected to IV thro sub he got house on his name on 9-8-91 exactly when Mercury anthra was on. Mercury is in the sub of Mars in XII signifying IV (Mars in the star of Kethu in IV).

He got married on 13-11-91 . 1n the Anthra of Mercury bukthi · of Jupiter in the major period of Satum.


As already discussed, Saturn gets the full signification of II thro sub.

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in II & in the sub of Rahu representing Mercury and so signifies II & XI.

Mercury as already discussed, Signifies II & XI & V, VII & IX thro sub and so got married in this anthra.

GOOD LUCK

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SUB LORD SPEAKS

I received a letter of very recently from Mr. Borooah, Silcher, Assam, a good KP Student, regarding some clarifications duly · furnishing his birth particulars:-

Date of Birth- 21-6-1941

Time of Birth -11-31-58 p.m. 1ST

Place of Birth - 26-46/94-16

Ayanamsa- 23-1-34

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Saturn Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu Mars Mars Rahu Saturn Mercury Saturn Ketu Saturn Jupiter Rahu

112·•m-7 Sa tum 0·23·42 1V10-43·42 Ketru 1118·43·42 M'l2·39·41 Mercury 4·2·11

Ms0-43-29 JI.Jl 13·2· 12 22-29-10 11116·43-42 Ven23-49·9

xu v 5·43·42 4-43-42 Nirayana Bhava

Chakram Balance in Sun

period

XI 3y-3m-19days

VI 5-43-42 4-43-42

Rahu X VIII 4 -2- 11

10-43-42 16· 43· 42 18-43-42 VII 12-40-7

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI . 27

The date of his entry into agricultural service was 12-11-1964 Major period of Rahu was running for him from 10-10-1961 to 10-10-1979. Rahu placed in VI in the star of sun in Ill owning VI. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn in II placed in the star of sun in Ill owning VI.

So it is a good period for service & earning capacity.

He entered Agricultural service in the bukthi of Jupiter from June 1964 to Nov 66.

Jupiter is in the II owning I & X and it is in the star of moon in II owning V (No planet in V) . But it is placed in the sub of Rahu in VI signifying Ill & VI.

Though Jupiter signifies II & V thro stellar strength which tells financial affluence, but no service as Jupiter acquired VI thro sub he entered service then.

He left the above service &joined Bank service during Venus bukthi (2-5-1973 to 2-5-76).

Let us discuss Venus

Venus is in IV & no planet is in its star.

So it fully signifies VII I & IV

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in II owning I & X (No planet in I & X). So it again signifying II, I & X.

So. VIII & IV tells of one matter & matter being profession thro Xth signification.

With these matters end in bad or good, the sub lord speaks about it. Venus is in the sub of saturn in II, placed in the star of Sun owning VI & occupying lllrd bhavam tells change, with betterment.

Hence Venus bukthi should give end to particular service and give a better service.

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So. he resigned the Agricultural service on 15-11-1974 & joined service in Bank on 25-11-1974 in the Anthra of Jupiter 6-11-74 to 30-3-75.

Discuss Jupiter.

Jupiter is in II owning I & X (Mars & Venus in the star of Jupiter)

Jupiter is in the star of Moon in II owning V (No planet in V). Matter is affluence in finance (II) change of service V.

What the sub indicates ?

Jupiter is in the sub of Rahu in VI, placed in the star of Sun in Ill owning VI. So it gave chang~ with better placed service in Bank.

He got a promotion in October 1983. Then it was Saturn bukthi (28-11-81 to 10.6.84). Saturn as already discussed attains VI & Ill thro stellar strength & thro sub lord Rahu again Ill & VI. VI got him promotion (The sub lord Rahu represents Mercury, a full signification of II, 1 & X.

He was again promoted during September 1988., and it was Venus bukthi (22-8-87 to 22-4-90}. Venus signifies II , I & X thro star and thro sublord Saturn , Ill & VI.

Mr. Borooah in his letter indicated a period (as his prediction) that he would be getting another promotion during July'92 & wanted me to confirm correctness of his assessment.

From 10-6-1992 to 16-3-1993, it will be Mars bukthi. Let me discuss Mars.

Mars is in the XII bhavam and no planet in its stars. So Mars signifies XII fully.

Mars is in the star of Jupiter placed in II duly owning lagna & X.

Summing up Mars signifies XII, Ill & X under stellar strength.


As Mars is in its own sub, he again signifies II. I & X Further as Mars is in its own sub. being placed in XII, he has a say about XII also.

Hence he must be elevated professionally with a shift from the present place.

Again there is another prediction given by him that he would be able to acquire a plot of land and it will be during May 92.

It is upto 1 0-6-92 and it is Moon bukthi. Let us see if moon is connected to purchase of land.

Moon is in II in the star of sun in Ill, owning VI. Moon is in the sub of Jupiter placed in the star of Moon in II owning V.

It is venus anthra from 26.2.92 to 16.5.92. Venus owns Ill & VIII & placed in IV (No planet in its star). So it signifies Ill, VIII and IV.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in II owning I & X.

Venus is in the sub of Saturn in II. placed in the star of sun in Ill, so thro Sub Ill significator tells the matter under fluid state.

Next Sun Anthra from 16-5-92 to 10-6-92, Sun is in Ill (Rahu is in Sun star) Sun is in the star of Rahu in VI. Sun is in the sub · of Rahu in turn placed in the star of Sun in I I I. Again Sun cannot give the land matter.

Summing up it is clear that the matter of land cannot be completed in the Moon bukthi upto 10-6-1992, & will be completed in the Mars bukthi Mars Anthra. How?

Mars is in its own sub and so he signifies II & IX. Mars has no planets in its star and so it signifies XII, II & IX.

Mars is in the star of Jupiter in II, owning I & X Here II signification again.

Hence, Mars thro sub signifies II & IX & these significators promise purchase and ownership of land property. Mars bukthi Starts from 10-6-92.

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I take up another birth chart of Mr. Prabhakaran of Sriram Fibres for discussion.

Born on 8-4-1955 at 6-18 pm. at Kalahasthi 13° 45' 79° 44'.

Ayanamsa 23°13'17'

Planet Sublord PJdnef Sublord Sun Rahu Venus Moon Jupiter Saturn Mars Mercury Rahu Mercury Venus Ketu Jupiter Venus

SUl 24-42-11

VII 24·9·57 VIII 25-8 Mars

5-13-35 IX 25-8 Mercury

1o-5-51

Vl24-8

17·32-35

V23-8

Rahu 7-1-7


10y-9~13ays

11125-8

Satum 26-46-35

II 25-8 Moon

8-56-48

Sun Venus Rahu Rahu

Ket 7-1 -7 X23-8

27·28-51

Xl23-8

XII 24-8

124-9-57

Let me take some of the past events and discuss here under.

He entered service on 10-1 -1975 and confirmed on 1-6-75.

He was running the major period of Jupiter from March '70 to March 1986.

Jupiter is in X in its own star and so he signifies IV & X fully. (Sun tenents VII).


Jupiter is in the sub of Venus in V, placed in the star of Rahu in Ill in Dhanus and so being in Dhanus fully signifies X as an agent of Jupiter in X.

When he entered this service. It was the bukthi of Mercury (from··Nov'74 to .Feb 77).

Mercury is in VI in the star of Saturn in II owning VI Mercury owns I & X and is in the sub of Venus. in tum placed in the star of Rahu in Ill in Dhanus duly representing Jupiter in X.

The marriage for this native took place on 4-9-81 . It was the bukthi of Moon (from 1 0-7-81 to 1 0-11-82) Moon owns XI . and is in the Lagna bhavam. (No planet in Moon stars Moon is in the star of Rahu In Ill in Dhanus and so represents VII also.

Moon is in the sub of Jupiter in its own star in X and so signifies X, IV & VII. Hence marriage took place in Moon bukthi.

He purchased a House during December '85. It is then Rahu bukthi (16-1 0-83 to 10-3-86).

Rahu is in Ill in the. star of Ketu in IX. Rahu being in its own sub he fully stands for Jupiter and so gets IVth signification and being in the star of Kethu, signifies IX, which brings happiness of getting a house.

I take up the birth chart of Sow. Jayalakshmi born on 16-9-1932 at 11 -00 a.m. at Mayavaram 11-6/79.42.

Ayanamsa 22-54-2.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord Sun Rahu Venus Jupiter Moon Venus Saturn Mercury Mars Saturn Rahu Saturn Mercury Rahu Ketu Saturn Jupiter Venus

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MOO'l I 21 ~2'39" XII 17057' 20°44'17'

II 16°57' Xl 14·57

Ratl.J Mars

4°35'59" 23~7'1 4" Ill 1305] ' X 1105]' Nirayana Bhava Ve 15°1'10"

Chakram Balance in Mercury

period at Birth Mercury Saturn (R) 10y-9m-11d 19°52' 11" 5°25'30" Jupiter

14°59'57' K 23°37'14"

VII Sun

VIII 16°57' VI 17°57' 0°43'16" 20°44'17' v 14°57'

This native had the luck of constructing a costly House and the graha pravesam celebrated during Aug/Sep 1967. - ·· ·

It was then the major period of Venus from June 1950 to June 1970.

Venus is in Ill. owning VI & I and placed in the star of Saturn in VIII. As there are planets in Venus stars, it cannot signify Ill, I & VI. It can signify VIII & IX only fina lly

But she enjoyed best financial improvement in this period so well. How?

Now look into the sub lord of Venus. It is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in IV_(There is Rahu in its star) and so Jupiter does not signify IV.

Jupiter is placed in the star of Venus in Ill owning I & VI (No planet in I & VI)

Hence in this period, she rose to a rich status. Only in this period she could construct a big house during Mercury bukthi


(June 66 to April '69.)

How Mercury bukthi brought her a House?

Mercury is in IV but Moon is Mercury star. So Mercury does not signify IV.

Mercury is in the s.tar of Venus in Ill. This is a negative matter for house. Then How?

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu in X in Acquarius. So. Rahu though in X, represents Saturn. who is a full significator of IV, and again Rahu is placed in the star of Jupiler in IV.

So. Mercury is well connected to IV & Hence a house during this bukthi.

Now, I take up an interesting Horoscope for discussing and the owner of the horoscope is the son of the above Jayalakshmi

. Born on 5-10-1949, at 6.20 p.m. 1ST at Mayavaram 11 -6/74.42

Ayanamsa 23-8-16

I 25°51 '16" Ratu

23035'10" M 27°4()' II 25°40" w 21 °40' M001

1°36'25"

v 1go40' XII 20°40' Nirayana Eflava Mars

Chakram 24°17'50"

Balance in Jup~er period

VI 20°40' XI 19°40' 2y·Om·26days Sa tum

20"31'30"

Mercury

Jupiter IX 25°40' 15°14'31'

29039'2" VE!lus VIII $18°48'17'

X 21°40' 1°1 3'38" 2704()' 1<23"35'10"

VII 25°51 '16"

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Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter Ketu Mars

·Jupiter Rahu

During the fag end of 1 ~90, the mother of the native consulted me if the boy has time to purchase a building in Delhi, where he is in service and said he is trying hard as he is badly in need of the same.

It was then Ketu major period and Rahu bukthi just then started.

I looked into Rahu.

To my surprise Rahu indicated it. Let me discuss it.

Rahu is in the star of Mercury in VI, owning IV & VII and so signifies VI, IV & VI I.

I again looked into the sublord It was Mars. Mars in V in the star of Mercury again duly signifying VI IV & VII.

This tells the purchase of a building.

W ith all trials, the boy could not suceed to own a b.uilding.

The mother again came and appraised the situation and I was really worried to find that Rahu could not bring about the purchase despite the fact, Rahu very well signified IV thro sub also.

I recollected the saying of Sri. KSK in his Reader on Transit' Thus all planets ruling the Dasa & Bukthi & Anthra shall tenant in the constellation of the slgnificator and sub of the relevant significators.

Having this in mind, I began to eleminate, duly discussing the bukthi's of Ketu dasa, one by one all the bukthi , Upto Rahu, that could not bring about the purchase of a building, though


they signified IV thro-sub,

Ketu Bukthi: From 1-11-87 to 28-3-88.

Ketu is in the sub of Mars and in turn this Mars signifies IV & Vi. Here sub indicates the purchase. But Dasanatha Ketu then transits Sun star 156° 49' -148° 59' significator of XII. Hence did not come up.

Venus Bukthi: 28-3-88 to 28-5-89.

Venus is in the sub of Mars and as explained the sub indicated owning a building But did not come up, Ketu, the dasa lord was then transiting Sun, Venus and Ketu stars 149° 59'- 126° 24' Significators of XII. X & II, V, VI & IX. '

Hence negotiation for purchase of a House

Sun Bhukthl: 28-5-89 to 4-10-89.

Sun is in the sub of Mercury and so signifies XII, & so no indication of purchase.

Transit of Dasanatha Kethu also does not connect Ketu was in transit of Ketu and Mercury stars 126° 24'-119° 34' signification of II, V, VI & IX, XII.

So Nothing indicated.

Moon Bhukthi: 4-10-89 to 4-5-90.

Ketu, the dasa lord then transiting Mercury star 119°-34' to 1 08o -20'· and it invoked the signification of XII only. lnspite of the fact that Moon is in the sub of Rahu. and this attains the IVth signification (Rahu is in the star of Mercury owning IV) matter did not come up, as the transit of Ketu did not help purchase of a building.

Mars Bukthi: 4-5-90 to 1-10-90.

Mars is in the sub of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the star of Mercury duly signifying VI & IV. Which tells the possession of a building.

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Then Ketu, the Dasanatha was transiting Mercury and Saturn stars (108° 20' -1 000 23') duly attaining the signification of XII & Ill , V, V III , XI which cannot help purchase.

Rahu Bukthi: 1-10-90 to 19-10-91.

Rahu is placed in the sub of Mars and in turn Mars is in the star of Mercury and thus signifies IV and VI. This would promise purchase of a building. Nothing came up, with all endeavours

and trials.

Why? look into Transit.

Ketu the Dasanath was then transitting Saturn, Jupiter sta~s 1 00° 23'. 80° 5' and got the signification of V Ill, VIII & XI & VI. In transit the IVth signification never shown its head. Hence

every trial to purchase fell through.

Jupiter Bukthi: 19-10-91 to 29-9.62.

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in VI Owning VI and is placed in the sub of Rahu in XII and it is in the star of Mercury in VI owning IV (no planets in IV). Thus sub g ives Jupiter the power to purchase a building. I checked up the Transit of Ketu the Dasa lord and found that it was transiting the star of Jupiter and Rahu and Mars stars, continuously and thus creating the signification

of VI & IV, VI & VII.

Currently Jupiter (the bukthinatha) transits the star of Ketu, thus signifies IV, VI & VII relevant houses for building.

Prediction to the mother was given that the. purchase will be done. with Registration before 10-6-1992.

Then the Mother also accepted that advance had been paid and shortly the registration is planned.

The readers now may kindly note that despite the fact. the bukthi lords signified IV thro sub. even then except Jupiter, in the previous bukthi periods. Ketu the Dasa Natha did not transit

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 37 the stars to connect the IVth signification, so the matter of purchase did not come up. And so Prof. K.S.K's advice to look into the transit. now help us with a proper guidance.

OM TAT SAT

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SUB LORD SPFAKS

It is my desire to continue this series of Article for six or seven months more & continue to write on Transit, as propounded by our Late Guruji Sri. KS.K.

Now I discuss the Horoscope of Mr. Shanker of Chennai, born on 21/22-2-1946 at 2.28 a.m. 1ST at Porto-Novo 11°-24'/ 79°-44'(Thursday)

Ayanamsa 23-5-45

Ral\3·37·37 Vll7·25-1

IV 12-46·55 v 13·46·55 VI 11-46-55 Ms21-1-51 Saturn(R) 2S-28-3J

Mer18-28-5 Venus VII

14-28·46 Nirayana Bhava 7-46-55 1119--16-55

Sun9-32-40 Chakram Balance in Rahu period at birth

117-46·55 6y-4m-3days

IX 9-46-55

Mooo

17-25·1 XII 15-18-22

Xl13-46·55 X 12·46·55 Ket 3-37·37 11-46·55 J~,piter (A)

4-5-3J


Sun Jupiter Venus Kethu Moon ·Venus Saturn Mercury Mars Jupiter Rahu Venus Mercury Moon Kethu Sun Jupiter Venus

Let me discuss some happemngs m hts hfe and show how s.ublord had control in bringing about the matters indicated by the star lord of the plantes. It is what Sri KSK was telling in his


various lectures and it is the essence of Krishnamurthi Padhdhati.

Mr. Shanker got married on 9th February 1981. It was the major period of Saturn, bukthi of Mars. Anthra of Rahu.

Let me discuss how these plantes are responsible for the marriage to come up.

Saturn period was from 24-6-1968 to 24-6-87.

Saturn owns II & Ill & placed in VII (No planet in Saturn Star) so Saturn fully signifies II & VII thro stellar strength.

Saturn is placed in the Star of Jupiter in X & Jupiter owns I & IV. So again Saturn signifies X, I & IV.

Saturn is in the sub of Mercury, in Ill owning VII & X. No planet in Mercury Star & Mercury is placed in the Star of Rahu in VI.

So, thro Sub, Saturn attain VII, X & VI significations. Hence, Saturn period can bring about the marriage with serious obstacles & delay, apart from occupational (service) life.

Take up Bukthi lord Mars and the bukthi ruled from 27-12-1980 to 6-2 1982.

Mars is in VII & owns V & XII (Jupiter is in Mars Star) so Mars does not signify VII, V & XII fully only a feeble significator.

. Mars is placed in the Star of Jupiter in X, owning I & IV.

Hence Mars signifies X, I & IV thro stellar position.

These signification of X, I & IV never support marriage to come up.

But Mr. Shankar got married in this bukthi of Mars.

Then How? What is the reason?

Now, look in to the sub lord of Mars. It is Jupiter. Jupiter is in the Star of mars posited in VII bhavam. Mars owns V & VIII

· (KE!tu tenents XII).

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So, Mars thro sub strength signifies VII & V fully.

So, Marriage took place in Mars bukthi & is stated to be a Love marriage.

Anthra then ruling, was that of Rahu, Rahu is in VI. (There are plantes in its Star)

So it does not signify VI fully. It is positied in the star of Mars in VII owning V. And as Node, it represents VII being in Gemini, where in Vllth cusp falls.

He entered central Govt. service on 16-8-1970 (Saturn bukthi from 24-6-68 to 27-6-71)

It was the major period of Satrun (June 1968 to June 1987) As already discussed, Saturn, thro its sublord Mercury, signifies VI, as it is in the star of Rahu in VI & so signifies VI & X also.

Hence the Dasa lord has power to give service life also. Service started in the bukthi of Saturn itself. The Same· signifitions thro sublord stands goods for entering service.

Now I like to discuss horoscope of Mr. Dakshinamurthy of Aduthurai born on 14-9-1958 at 1.35 p.m. 1ST at Aduthurai 11 °6' /79.37 Ayanama 23-15-48.

Kethu Mars IV 21·34·28 0·34·12 4·45·36 Vl l 14·3·58

v 21-24-28 IV 18-34-28

11118-34-28 VIII

Nirayana Bhava 15·34·28

Chakram Balance in Sun Mercury period at birth 1 Hl-12

II 15-34-29 Oy-2m-28days Ve12-41-!:B IX 18·34·28

SU1 27-44-44

Sa tum XI Mooo

I 14-3-52 26-11-53 21·34-28 9·27·40

XII Jt.p8-2-15 X 18-34-28 Rato-34-12 21-34-28

KRISHNAMURTI P~DHDHATI


Sun Moon Mars

Moon Venus Saturn

Mercury Saturn Jupiter Rahu

Venus Saturn Rahu Kethu

Mercury Jupiter Mercury Kethu

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He was married on 14-7-85 and the period then was that of Rahu and bukthi of Mercury.

Rahu signifies V fully and thro sub lord Mercury, IV & V also, (Mercury is in the star of Kethu in Aries and so represents Mars).

Mercury owns VII and signifies IV & V (Saturn is in Mercury star) Hence this period points to marriage and that too love marriage in general.

Marriage took place in the bukthi of Mercury (from 24-10-83 to 12-5-86). The bukthi lord Mercury is in the star of Kethu in IV and pla~e? in the sub of Saturn. who in turn signifies VII fully (Saturn IS 1n Mercury star and Mercury owns VII and no plantes in VII).

So, marriage took place in Mercury bukthi. He purchased a . House on 19-1-92.

It is the bukthi of Moon (24-5-91 to 24-11-92).

Let us see how Moon is conneceted to the House matter.

Moon owns VIII placed in IX. (No planet in the star of Moon.) So, Moon fully signifies IX & VIII.

Moon is in the star of Sun, placed in IX, owning IX. Hence again signifies IX fully.

Significations of IX & VIII does not help to own a house.

Hence, sub lord tells the House Purchase, Moon is in the sub of Venus in VIII, placed in the star of Kethu in IVth bhava. So

. Moon sig~ifies IV thro sub and so house was purchased during the bukth1 of Moon, corresponding to the Anthra of Saturn.

42 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Discuss Saturn:

Saturn owns II & Ill and placed in XII, no planets in its stars and so signifies IIIII & XII.

Saturn is in the star of Mercury in VIII owning VII & X.

So, Saturn signifies IIIII XII VIII & XI VII thro stellar strength, Here Ill, XII, VIII & X are derterminet significations for purchse of properties like land, houses and vehicles.

But, the purchase took place in this anthra of Saturn. How? Look into the sub lord of Saturn. It is Jupiter.

Jupiter owns IV and it has no plantes in its stars and so signifies IV fully.

Further Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in Libra and as node represents Venus who is a full significator of IV (Venus is in the star of Kethu in IV).

The native who came recently for consultation, desired to know how beneficial his future period of Jupiter, which is to run from December' 93 for 16 years, would be.

Jupiter is in X and owns I & IV. No plantes in Jupiter star and so it fully signifies I IV & X.

Further Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in X. in Libra. So again Jupiter signifies X.

As node Rahu, the star lord, represents VI & XI cusp also.

So under stellar strength, Jupiter attains tt.e significations of IIV X VI & XI. So the matters are very good in Jupiter period.

Sub lord decides. How far these matters be beneficial to the native.

Look into the sub lord of Jupiter. It is Rahu, as told above, as node Rahu, being in X in Libra, it also acquires VI & XI signification also, duly representing Venus who owns VI & XI.


Venus is placed in VIII, in the star of Kethu in VI. So Rahu acquires VIII & IV too.

Hence I told him, his Jupiter period shall give him good material improvements, together with financial commitments also, in terms of VIII signification attained by sub lord Rahu (Note. The sub lord Rahu, as Node, represents, Venus, owning VI & XI, in VIII. No planet in Venus stars and no planet in VI & XI.

Now I take up the horoscope of Mr. Ananthakumar S/o. A. Narayanan ofTrichy-1. Born on 2-11 -1 964 at 7-31 a.m. 1ST at Salem 11/39/78-12. Ayanamsa 23-20-50.

Planets . Sublord • • •• Sun Venus Venus Venus Moon Venus Saturn Sun Mars Moon Rahu Mercury Mercury Venus kethu Venus Jupiter Mars

Vl7-16 VII

Rah v 6-16 JupEr(R) 1-47-55

29- 12-:rl 4-22-10

VII 3-16

Sa tum 5-<l- 16

IX 3- 16 IV Nirayana Bhava

4-16 Chakram Balance in Moon

period at birth X 4-16

Ill Zy-1m-23days 3- 16

Mars 4-29-[()

Mercury X16-16

II 3-16 26-59-[() Ketu I 4·22-10 Sl.ll

VerB-42-ro

. 1-47-55 16-a:l-10 Moc:o

XI I 7-16 a:l-28-10

44 SUBLORD SPEAKS

The boy's father consulted me in the 1st week of May 92 regarding the possibility of marriage coming up for the boy during

1992.

Boy is running the major period of Jupiter from 25-12-91 and the bukthi of Jupiter ends by 13-2-1994.

I discussed Jupiter.

It is in VI, & owns II & V & it is in the star of Sun in XII. It is posited in the sub of Mars, owning I & VII & placed in the star of

Kethu in lagna bhavam.

Kethu as node represents Jupiter in VI duly signifying X &

XII.

So, I told the father that the boy cannot get married during

Jupiter bukthi i.e., upto Februray 94.

Then I looked into Saturn bukth i, which starts on 13-2-1994.

I discussed Saturn.

It owns Ill & IV placed in IV with no planet in its stars. So it

signifies Ill & IV fully.

Saturn is in the star of Mars in X, owning I & VI. So it signifies

X fully along with Ill & IV.

So there significatiof1s under stellar strength viz. Ill IV & X full significations I & VI feeble significations, are determental factors for bringing about the marriage.

But sub lord of Saturn being Sun, placed in the star of Rahu in V II bhavam gives Saturn strength to bring about the marriage

during its bukthi .

So I told the father that the boy will get married definately, in Saturn bukthi and Saturn anthra itself i.e., between 13-2-1994 & '17 -7-1994 and he left with satisfaction.

Om Tat Sat


SUBLORD SPEAKS

I am sure by my series of Articles under the above caption, students of K.P. are now giving more credence to the sublord for finality in prediciton.

I now discuss one horoscope, an entity by itself, of one boy by name KRISHNAN S/o. Vijayaraghavan, my friend.

' Born on 15-11-68 at 11-45 p.m. I.S.T. at Madras.

13.04/80.17. Ayanamsa 23-24-11.

Planets .· Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Moon Venus Jupiter Moon Mars Saturn Jupiter Mars · Moon Rahu Rahu Mercury Sun Kethu Rahu Jupiter Mercury

Saturn(R) 26-23-47

XII IX 25-'Sl-27 X 27-S2-27 XI 27-'Sl-27 Rah.J

2fHil-27

13-39-5?

VIII I 24-57-27 Nirayana Bhava 26-36-44

Chakram Balance fn Sun 1----

period at birth II 24-'Sl-27

VII Sy-1 m-8days 26-36-44

Mom 28-39-22

Jupiter VI26-'Sl-27 v 27-'Sl-27 IV 27-'Sl-27 6-34-25

Venus S.m 0-3-27

Mercury Ms10-32-'Sl 7-38-20 17-54-13 Ke13-39-52

If 125-'Sl-27

46 SUBLORD SPEAKS

The boy was running the major period of Mars from December '83 to December '90. Of course Mars, a full significator of II & X, ( No planet in its stars and placed in 11). Having been placed in the star of Moon in II owning 1., signifies I also.

Mars is in the sub of Moon & so signifies IV & II.

So in terms, of IV & II , he passed the B. E. Exam. creditably in Pilani durin 1990, in Sun bukthi (17-1-90 to 23-5-90).

Please note Sun thro sub, signified IV fully.

With the advent of Moon bukthi in May'90, he found himself selected for M.S. Environmental engineering studies in U.S.A. & left for the same.

Note Moon is in the sub of Mars & signifies I, II & X.

In this bukthi he left for higher studies to USA.

At this function, I was hestitant to include this birth chart in this Articte, as the Dasa lord Mars & bukthi lord Moon were not connected to IX or XII for movement to foreign countires.

Here the lind cuspal sublord is Mercury & it is in the star of Rahu in Pisces where IXth cusp fails . Mercury in the sub of Sun & sun is in the star of Jupiter owning VI & IX.

IVth cusp sub lord is Venus & it is in the star of Kethu in Virgo & so it represents Mercury in Ill, owning Ill & XII.

Hence, Mars as Dasa lord signifies IV & so he accquires Ill & XII also & Moon thro sub signifies II & so acquires VI & IX.

. .

This is a subtle matter, which studel)ts ·hav,''te~eenly watch and follow. · · · ·

The boy started the major period of Rahu on 23-12-90 and its bukthi is upto 5-9-93.


The readers may kindly notice Rahu, the major Dasa lord is in VIII and is placed in the star of Saturn in IX owning VII & VIII. (No planet in VII). both VIII & IX are quite detrimental for material progress.

In the case of Nodes, one should give more credence for Rasi lords.

Here Rahu represents Jupiter in II, owning VI & IX (As sun is in Visakam IV, Jupiter is a feeble significator of II, VI & IX)

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in lv owning II and so Jupiter attains IV & II fully.

Hence, Rahu becomes a benefic and gives education, financial prospects. ·

In Rahu bukthi, he progressed well in his MS environmental Engineering in USA.

During May'92, the boy got Government service, in USA and it was Mercury anthra in Rahu bukthi.

As already pointed out, Rahu, is well connected to IV & 11 fully.

The Anthra lord Mercury has to be discussed. Mercury is the star of Rahu. in VIII representing Jupiter a significator of II, VI & IV & Mercury in the sub of sun, a significator of II & VI.

So he settled down in Service life in Mercury anthra, in Rahu bukthi itself As Node, play~ a better role in representing their Rasi lord & their signification.

Now, I take up the Horoscope of Sri. Vijayaraghavan, born on 12-10-1932 at 5.00 A.M 1ST) at Virinjipuram (vellore) 12-55/ 79.41.

Ayanamsa 22-54-2.

48 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Vll9-8·15 VIII IX 9·57·00

X 8-57-00 8-57-00

Moa~ Xrl-57-00 26·49·36 Rate2-17~ Nirayana Bhava

Ms

VI 8-57-00 19·36·21 Chakram

Balance in Jup~er XIIS-57·00

v 7·57·00 period

Venus Sa tum 7y-9m-21 days 12·26·33 5-17-27 Jup20·11·2

Ket22·17~

IV Ill II 8·57·00 I 9-8·15

8·57·00 9-57-00 Mercury Sm 4·25·27 25-32-14

Planets Sub lord Planets .. Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Mercury Moon Venus S~turn Mercury Mars Venus Rahu Saturn Mercury Venus Kethu Saturn Jupiter Jupiter

The native of this horosocope is now running the major period of Venus from 3-8-1983, for 20 years.

The readers may note that venus is in XII owning II & IX. As these are planets in Venus stars, Venus cannot have the benefic signification of II.

Venus is in the star of Kethu in XII .. So, under stellar strength, it is not at all connected to give good.

But actually, Sri Vijayaraghavan owns a house in city area, with a good Railway service in supervisory nature. He suffered in this Venus period. no major setbacks & he enjoys best health also with good social structure and influence, together with happy family setup. . ..

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 49 How? is the question.

Look into its sublord. It is Mercury and it owns I & X & placed in the star of Mars in XI.

This is brought to you only to pointout, how a Dasa lord with detrimental significations under stellar status, work well, gives beneficial results in terms of Sub-Lord only & alone.

(Now I may pointout that one cannot ignore to note the Dasa lord Venus, though rendered weak by being placed in the star of Ketu in XII , the same Ketu as a node acquires the Rasi Lord Sun. (Sun in Lagna, duly signifying XI) & Venus acquires these benefic significations also.)

Another Horoscope of a girl by name Shanthi born on 18-10-1970 at 8.25 am 1ST at Madras 13.04/80.17

Ayanamsa 23.25.51

Vl6-34 Vll4-17-9 VIII v 6-34 Sallrn(R) Moen 3-34 27-35-40 13-59-31

Rctl 5-28-47 Nirayana Bhava IX 2-34 IV 4-34

Chakram Balance in Moon

period X4-34 Ill 7y-()n-22days Ketll.J 2-34

5-28-47

Jupiter MsS-5-46

I 4-17-9 18-1q-44 X16-34 II 3-34

Ve 1-35-46 XII 6-34·.

Mer SISI 24-25-47 0-53-27

50 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Pianets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Mercury Moon Jupiter Mars Saturn Mercury Rahu Jupiter Moon


Rahu Moon Sun Mars

This girl had a brilliant educational life. For this we look into the Sublord of the IVth cusp.

Here the Sublord is Venus.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in XII owning !I & V. So Venus signifies under stellar status XII, II & V. This does not portray the same.

Now look into the Sublord of Venus.

It is Rahu.

Rahu is placed in IV (Acquarius), representing Saturn in VI.

Saturn is placed in the Star Sun in XI owning X.

So IV is connected to X & XI, apart from VI, thro the Sublord of the IVth cusp Sublord, Venus.

She passed +2 with Gold medal in 1989. passed Bsc with distinction in 1992 & studied through out till BSc with full scholarship in merit.

Got married on 6-5-92. It was then the major period of Rahu (Nov 89 for 18 years) & bukth i of Saturn (from 16-11-89 tp 22-9-92) Discuss Saturn.

Saturn is in VI, owning Ill & IV, no planet in Saturn Stars and it is in the Star of Sun in XI, owning X.

So the bukthi lord Saturn, when marriage is celebr~.ted signifies VI, VIII IV X XI fully. Except XI, the other signifactors are quite detrimental for bringing about the marriage.


Now look into the Sublord of Saturn. It is Moon placed VII, owning IX. No planet in Moon stars & in IX also. (Moon in its own star, Rohini)

So, Saturn signifies fuly VII & IX thro sub, both good for marriage.

I take up the Horoscope of Dr. Natarajan, a leading Medical practitioner of my locality.

He was born on 24-12-1949 at 9.35 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13 04/80.17.

. .• . . Ayanamsa 23-8-16. . . · ... . .. .. Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Venus Moon Jupiter Saturn Kethu Mars .Mercury Rahu Venus Mercury Sun Kethu Mercury Jupiter Mars

Ra19-al-~ IX X XI VIII 1-33-21 2-33-21 3-33·21 3-33·21

~ 10·19-2 VII XII

2-3-«> Nirayana Bhava 2·33-21 Chakram

Balance in Rahu Ve20-27-3) period

Jupiter 13y-Om-26days 12-3-40

11-45·27 Sa tum

VI 2-33-51 26·10-24

- 111 ·33-21 26-50-22 IV 111 Ms6-14-49

Sun9-24-41 3·33-21 2-33·21 Ketl't.l V3-33·21 19-al-43

The Students may kindly note that the Sublords of IV & X .cusps do portray his education & profession.

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IVth cusp Sublord is Saturn.

Saturn in Leo. This falls on Medical study. Saturn is in the star of Venus in VI. The house VI tells health matters.

Saturn is in the sub of Kethu, placed in virgo (virgo is called

the Hospital of the zodiac).

Look into the Xth cusp.

The Sublord is Saturn again .

As discussed above. his profession also connected to

medicine only .

Let me discuss various events in his life.

He was married on 10-11-1972. It is the major period of Jupiter from Jan 1963 to Jan 1979.

Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VII owning XII , and no planet in Jupiter stars and so Jupiter signifies VI , VII, & XII, under

stellar position.

It is in the sub of Mars placed No planet in Mars stars and so Mars signifies II, IV & IX. As Mars is tenanting the star of Sun in V, Mars· acquires the signification of V & I also. (I is feeble signification, as Saturn is situated there in lagna)

So, Jupiter period has got the signification of VII, XII VI, so it can give marriage, foreign tours and good income respectively.

As sub gives the signification of V II IV & IX the matters VII ,

XII, & VI florish well. ·

He got married in Rahu bukthi in Jupiter major pariod ( 16-9-

76 to 20-1-79).

Rahu is in VIII in the star of Mercury in Vowning II & XI. There are planets in Rahu star and so it cannot signify VIII . So Rahu thro ste llar signifies V & XI also, as planets are in II, it does not signify II fully, So, Rahuthro stellar strength signifies V & XI and


Rahu thro Sublord Venus signifies VII, as Venus is posited in the star of MOON in VII. So he got married in Rahu bukthi.

He passed MBBS exam, during Dec 1974. It was then Moon bukthi in Jupiter period. as already explai'ned Jupiter has IVth house mat!er, thro sub. arid teiis success in the major period.

Let us discuss the bukthi of Moon and tell if it is connected to education and prospects there on.

Moon is in VII in the star of Rahu in VIII & so it signifies VII fully. But moon being placed in the sub of Jupiter in VI (No planet in Jupiteer stars). The signification of VI gives success in this bukthi. Discussing back again about Moon, under stellar strength it signifies VIII fully. But one should not fail to discuss further that moon is in the star of Rahu a node and so it represents Jupiter in VI, a full significator of VI, as no planet tenenting Jupiter stars. This should not be i_gnored·.

So Moon has given him a success '(VI) in its bukthi, being in major dasa Jupiter signifying V II IV IX thro its sublord, as discussed above in previous paras.

By way of will & a settlement deed, he got a house from his uncle on 12-4-1982, Let us discuss the bukthi lord on that date. , It was Saturn period & Mercury bukthi (23-1-82 to 2-10-84.)

Mercury is in the star of Sun in V, owning lagna cusp. This does not tell anything addition in property.

But Mercury is the sub of sun, placed in the star of Kethu in II & so II tells addition & acquisition of properties.

Apart from this, he construced a House in the same Mercury bukthi.

As Mercury is in the sub of Sun in saggitary a Dual sign & as sun also posited in the star of Ketu in II (Virgo) a dual house, he had the. second house in the same Bukthi of Mercury during 1983.

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Now I take up the birth chart of Dr. Vanaja, a medical predictioner of my locality, with a roaring practice.

Born on 16-17-1-52. at 1.30 a.m. 1ST at Chenganancheri 9-36'/76-34'

Ayanamsa 23-1 0-4 7.


Sun Jupiter Venus Mars Moon Saturn Saturn Venus Mars - Sun Rahu Mercury Mercury Mercuery ·Kethu Venus Jupiter Rahu

.. ·.,- . · . . . .

Vl,19. VII VIII IX Jupiter 18"15-39 17-9 16-9

14-45-43

v 17-9 Rall.J Nirayana Bhava

X16-9 1-25-43

Chakram Balance in Venus

period Ketll.l IV 16·9 1-25-43

Sll1 Sy· 7m-21 days Xl17-9 2-28·3 Moen

22·54-23

. .

Ill 16-9 Venus I 18·15·39 Xl119-9 Mercury 23·49·13 Mars Sa tum 11·29·43 1117-9 5·18-23 21-44·3

Doctor was running the major period of Mars from Sep'73 to Sep'80.

Mars is in its own star Chithirai in XII owning II &VII. So Mars signifies XII, VII & II. There is Venus in II & Rahu is in Mars star.


So, one will be tempted to say Mars is a bad planet and period would bring troubles in term of XII & VII.

Nothing happened.

Look into the sublord. It is sun & it is in its own star in 111 owning XI.

Through there is Moon in XI, Sun signifies XI as it is in its own star and no planet tenant its stars.

Hence thro Sublord, Mars acquire Il l & XI, & so the period of Mars was bright, she got married in 1976, passed MBBS in 1974. purchased a plot in May 1990.

She· passed MBBS during September 1974, it was Rahu bukthi in Mars period (5-2-74 to 23-2-75.) Rahu is in the star of Mars in XII & so signifies VII & XII, This is not encouraging signification, under stellar strength.

Let us look into the sublord of Rahu. It is Mercury placed in the star of Ketu in X. So he was successful in the exam and passed it.

Marriage took place during November 76. It is the major period of Mars from September'73 to September '80. ·

Mars thro star and Sub signifies II VII Ill & XI. So in this major period, marriage took place in the bukthi of Saturn (from January .Z6 to March 77.)

Saturn is in the star of Moon in XI & is in the sub of Venus is · in II , placed in the star Mercury in II.

So, there is a good combination of VII, II & XI formed in this bukthi & marriage took place on 1Oth November 1976.

She purchased a plot for House construction during 1990 in the bukthi of Sun (October 79 to February'80)

Sun is in Ill in its own star & so fully signifies Ill :

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This is not encouraging & does not indicate purchase of plot.

But, Sun is in the sub of Jupiter in V (No planet in its stars) & so signifies V & VI. Having been placed in the Star is well connected to IV & so purchase of Plot in this bukthi.

Now. I invite the attention of my beloved readers of this magazine K.P. & Astrology to turn the page No. 13 of May 1992 of K.P. & Astrology, where in it was discussed and finally predicted to the mother of the native, born on 5-10-1949, that the registration of House would be before 10-6-92.

This is for the kind information of the readers and K.P. followers please.

An improtant Note for K.P. followers:

1. PLANETS stellar significations. These significations tell what ·matters are eligible for the planets to give.

2. The lord of the sub portion in which the reference planet is situated and to assess the correct signification of the sublord.

These significations alone allow the fructification of the matters portrayed by the planet. ·

3. The quantum of such matters as allowed by the sublord for fructification are assessed thro the sublord of the relevant cusps that stand for such matters.

That is how to proceed .


SUB LORD SPEAKS

In the Astrological world. we are required to assess the correct matter and give result to the maximum extent correctly.

When we look into horoscopes we find some period, to be weak in significations and bad also and we at once spellout bad only, w ithout looking into the sublord signification of the Dasa lord.

I now discuss a horoscope of a lady of my locality, born at 5-15 a.m. 22-7-64, W~dnesday at Ramanathapuram 9.22t78.52. Ayanamsa 23-20-50. :~ ·:: · :


Sun Mercury Venus Saturn Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu Mercury Saturn Kethu Rahu Jupiter Moon

Xl24-47-47 X1124-47-47 Ms0-44-45 X 20-47-47 Jupiter V91US Ra 7-15-12

28-15-11 28-57-17 I Z3-48-:ll

IX20-47-47 Sur6-51-55

Sallrn(R) II 20-47-47 Nirayana 8hava Me .wry 10-37-13

Chakram 28-53-13

Balance in Kethu period

VIII 3y-8m-7days 1120-47-47 20-47-47

Vll23-48-:ll Ketru VI v

IV 22-47-47 7-15-2 24-47-47 24-47-47 Mn6-18-47

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This lady came to me for consultation regarding marriage.

I made a through checkup of the period of Sun now on from 29-3-88 to 29-3-94.

Sun is in Lagna bhava and owns Ill. Jupiter is in Sun star and so Sun does not signify I & Ill.

Sun is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning VII I & IX so Sun is a full sign ifrcator of VI II & IX.

So, these two significators do not help the native to get into marital fold .

Looking into these significators of VIII & IX an Astrologer is prone to tell that she is bad in health and bad in Material portion of life also with no profession in life and with unemployment.

When asked she said that she is well educated and in permanent, lucrative Railway service from 1987-88. .

The student now can understand how the stellar significations lead you to lurch.

She is now financially well off and planning to own a house also.

Now, we have to look into the sublord of Sun, the dasa lord.

It is Mercury and Mercury is in II in its own star, Ayilyam.

So, Mercury signifies II fully along with IV, as there are planets in lagna bhava.

Hence, Sun is in the sub of a planet signifying II & IV fully. This tells her material status.

Let us discuss the Year 87-88, she got into Railway service. It was Kcthu bukthi from 29-1-87 to 27-3-88.

Let us discuss the signification of Kethu, Kethu is in VI in its own star and so fully signifies VI (services). Kethu being in Dhanus he represents Jupiter in XI, owning X also so Kethu has got the matters of VI, X & XI.


Let us see if the lord Kethu is connected to benefic houses thro sub lord for fructification of the matters of VI, X is service and professional life.

Kethu is in the sub of Rahu in XII in its own star, Mithunam, So he fully represents Mercury in II in its own star so the matter well fructified.

In the beginning I wrote that she came for knowing her marriage time.

For marriage the current period of Sun should be signifying II , VII or XI, VII or II, VI, XI. It signifies II & IV only thro sub, II tells her financial position and IV detrimental signification for marital matters.

So this period is weak for the same and now it is the bukthi of Mercury from 17-1-92 to 23-1-92.

Mercury is a full significator of II & IV, under stellar strength, but thro sub lord Saturn, it signifies XII, with II & IV. No use.

Then Kethu bukthi from 23-11-92 to 29-3-93, Kethu being in Moola in VI, he signifies VI fully and thro sublord Rahu signifie~ XII fully, alongwith II & IV. No use

Then Venus bukthi from 29-3-93 to 29-3-94. Venus is in XII and no planet in its stars and so fully signifies V & XII.

Venus is in the star of Mars in XII, in its own star and so signifies XII fully. No use for marriage

So, I told her that marriage cannct take place before April '94 and she went away.

Let us discuss for the sake of students regarding the marital position of this girl.

To confirm if there is marriage at all, you have to look into the Vllth cusp sublord.

Here it is Saturn

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Saturn is in the star of Rahu in XII, & so signifies XII. As node Rahu represents mercury in II in its own star and so Saturn gets the signification of II also.

See if Saturn gets a benefic signification thro its sublord.

Saturn is in its own sub and so again gets signification of XII, II & IV, the signific~tion of II is plus point whereas XII & IV are minus points.

So, marriage cannot come up as detrimental signification are dominant.

I take up another birth chart of a business magnet in Madras, born on 17-7-51 at 11-50 a.m at SATTUR 9.21/77.58 Ayanamsa 23-9-56.


Sun Mars Venus Venus Moon Jupiter Saturn Saturn Mars Venus Rahu Moon Mercury Sun Ketu Rahu Jupiter Venus

Vll24-20-15 Mars Jup~er VIII IX 23-43 15-44-37 20-29-7 24-43 X 22-43

i

Vl 23-43 Sun 0-42-6 - Mercury Rahu

19-10-01 Nirayana Bhava 21-59-24

Chakram XI 22-43

Balan~ in Kethu period Venus

13-57-25 v . 2y-4m-14days Ketu 22-43 19-10-01

Xll23-43

IV 22-43 Ill

Sa tum Moen

23-43 1124-43 4-20-23

8-49-12 124-20-15


As in the previous chart, this bitrth chart also is a baffling one.

Now the native is running the major period of Mars from 1-12-89 to 1-12-96.

Discuss mars.

Mars is in IX & no planet in its.stars & so signifies IX, VIII fully (Moon is in IV) Mars is in the star of Rahu in V,.

So, Mars signifies IX, VIII & V & these are d6lrimental ·-;i~Jrd,catio :-ts for material progress. It tells all failures.

f~ Jt it is not the case with this person. He is having roaring business life to the tune of crores.

Then how it happens?

Now look into the sublord of Mars.

It is Venus, Venus is in its own star in Xlth, owning II & IX (No planet in II & Mars in IX) so Mars is in the sub of planet signifying II & IX. What more one requires to get huge income than these II & XI significations.

As the same Dasa natha, Mars is in the star of Rahu in V, here V is the matter. He is dealing with matters producing Music items in terms of V. and he will get on very well in this period of Mars, on these lines.

On 1-12-96 he enters into the major period of Rahu for 18 years

Discuss Rahu.

Rahu is in its own star in V and it is as node, represents Saturn, a full significator of X. (Saturn is in the Star of Sun in Xth bhavam.)

So, Rahu has matters, connected to V & X. Rahu is in the sub of Moon in II owning XI. (No planet in Moon stars) and further Moon signifies XI, as it tenants the star of kethu, posited in XI.

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Hence, Rahu period for 18 years will be very good, better than Mars period.

I get correspondence from KP Students requiring clarifications if results of one planet repeal::; the !~amt~ matter in all the Dasas as it comes as bukthi natha.

Really it is a. moot point for discussion, and it is raised t•y f\..1r Sriramulu, Manthany AP.

Firstly, you must assess the signification of the Dasa lord. it the same has lllrd signification predominantly and the bukth i lord has IV th signification, the IV th matter meets with failure only or no progress at all in that direction, ie., IV th house matters.

The same planet with IVth matter, come as bhukthi lord in the period of one signifying IV, he will be flourishing in that matter so well.

If the Dasa lord signifies IX and the bukthi lord with IV matter, makes the native to go deep in his studies and do research.

If the Dasa lord signifies VIII or XII and bukthi lord of IV comes, there will be serious accidents to the extent of hospitalisation and amputation.

That is how. one should proceed.

OM TAT SAT

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KRISHN/'.MURTI PADHDHATI 63

SUB LORD SPEAKS

In this Aricle, I take up the Horoscope of on Mr. Palanivelu of Adyar for discussion. You will notice how the stellar positions of the D~sa Lord t~lls the matters that he suffers or enjoys in that part1cular penod Let me proceed with the horoscope details:-

He was born on 6-10-53 at 8-22 a.m., 1ST at Madras 13-04/ 80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-11-37.

Balance in Sun period at Birth :- 2 years 5 months 15 days.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter

Kethu Saturn Jupiter Jupiter Venus

XII 27-35-5

Xl23-35·5

X 22-35·5 Rahu 6-6·31

IX 25-35"5


I 1·58-38 1125·35-5

N irayana Bhava Chakram

VIII Mercury

29-35-5 9-35·2

\1111·58·38 Sa tum 4-53-43

Saturn Sun Mercury Mercury

J.Jp 3-9-37 11125-35-5

Ketu 6-6-31

IV22-35-5

Mars 20-35-55

Ven22-0·36 v 23-35·5

Mn 4-32-11 Slll

19·51·56 V127-35·5

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Now, the native is runnin'g the major period of Jupiter from 21-3-1991 for 16 years.

Look into Jupiter. It is in the star of Mars in IV, owning VII , VII I. You will please note that no planet tenants its stars. So Jupiter is a full significator of II & XII too.

Hence, Jupiter under stellar position signifies II IV VII VIII XII.

So. in this period these are the matters to enjoy or suffer that is what Sri KSK was telling time and again.

The native owns a big house in Adyar locality, and has house rental income (II & IV.)

VII tells his matrimot~iallife.

VII tells some litigations and agonising situations.

XII abnormal expenditure or overseas travels and sudden movements.

These matters are in any way affecting him or suffering on these lines, is to be seen thro the sub lord of Jupiter.

Jt,~piter is in the sub of Venus.

How is Venus? It is in IV, in its own star Pooram duly ow1 :ng lagna and II cusps.

So, Jupiter significations of II, IV, VII, VIII & XII, should transform and give results in terms of Venus significations.

II tells finance and family.

The IVth signification of Venus affects family in a way. And II signification give him good flow of money.

IV tels Domestic situation and house hold matters. It is affected as Venus gets IVth and so domestic disturbances and litigations on house.

Vllth tells matrimonallife and his wife.


The IVth significator of Venus had disturbed his matrimonial life and his wife is away from him and gone to her father's house.

VI lith tells serious matters and when connected to IV under sub signification tells he is prone to accidents and litigation and there is a serious court case on his house.

VIII & XII stellar significations connected to IVth thro ~ub tells some sudden matter of a serious type to happen during the Anthra of Moon 30-11-92 to 14-1-93.

He came to me for consultation regarding the Domestic trouble and asked if his wife will come and join him and when.

I looked into Saturn bukthi which starts on 9-5-93 Saturn is in VI, in the star of Mars in IV owning VII & VIII Saturn is in the sub of Sun. And Sun is in the star of Moon in V. So. the matter of VII & VIII shall be transformed into V and will bring her back to sour fold, I said.

As regards to the court case on the House I told him the same will come to an end ubruptly during Mars anthra i.e between November '92 & January (93) as Mars signifies I & II & IV thro stellar status and thro Sublord Jupitar II & IV.

As Jupiter tenents the star of Venus, I told him the case will end under negotiation across the table.

I take up another chart of a girl by name Chi. Hemavathi, barn on 13-.12-68, at 12-50 noon 1ST at Madras 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-24-11.

Planet Sublord Plan at ' Sublord Sun Saturn Venus Moon Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu Mars Jupiter Rahu Mars Mercury Venus Ketu Rahu ~upiter Moon .

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Sallrn(R) 25-21-31

Rahu 1113-44 11112-44 IV 8·44

12-11-54 19-54-50

XIIS-44 v 5-44

N irayana Bhava

Chak.ram

Venus 10-34-37 VIS-44

XIS-44

Mn1·18-12

X 8·44 Sl.fl VIII V119-24-9J

Mercury Zl-'Sl-'ZT 13-44 Ju10·2S·29

1·24-51 IX 12·54 Ms2S·59·31 Ke12·11·54

Balance in Sun period 3 years 1 0 months 29 days.

The girl got married on 10-9-1989. At that time, it was the major period of Mars, bukthi of Moon and Anthra of Mercury.

Mars period was from 12-11-1982 to 12-11-1989 let us discuss the dasa lord Mars. Mars is in VII, in its own star of in the sub of Jupiter, a significator of VII as it is in VII without any planet in its star. ·

So Mars has the matter of VII thro sub, a benefic significator I

of VII for marriage.

Marriage came up in this period, with abnormal delay, as Vlth signification of Mars thro sub is the cause (Mars is in the sub of Jupiter and Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VI.)

So, Marriage took place in the fag and of Mars period ie. in Moon bukthi between 12-4-89 to 12-11-89.

Moon owns V & is in VI. There are planets ie. Moon stars. ·so. Moon does not signifY V & VI.


Moon is in the star of Sun in IX owning VI. So Moon signifies IX& VI.

This is a detriment factor for marital matters.

Then How?

Moon is in the sub of Jupiter in VII, having no planet in its stars. So signifies VII fully.

Look at the Anthra lord signification. It is Mercury Anthra from 14-8-89 to 14-9-89.

Mercury owns, IV & VII and there is Sun in its star. So it does not signify IV & VII.

Mercury is in the star of Ketu in VII & so signifies VII and so signifies fully VII. So, marriage can take place if sub lord allows.

What sublord tells?

Mercury is in the sub of Venus in XI and Venus has no planet in its stars, and so Venus fully signifies XI.

Being in the star of Moon, Venus gets the full signification of V also, as no planet in V.

So, marriage was consummated in this Anthra only on 10-8-89, during the bukthi, of Moon signifying VII thro sub lord Jupiter.

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SUB LORD SPEAKS

In this Article, I take up the birth chart of Dr. Kamalesh, a close realtive of mine.

He was born on 20-10-62 at 4-26 p.m. at Madras 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 2314" 9"


Sun Moon Mars Mercurry Jupiter

Jupiter Mercury Rahu Rahu Saturn

Venus Satrun Rahu Kethu

1123·41

118-23-59 Jupiter

10-41-16

Xl/16-41 Ken2-9·2.9 Sallrn(R) 11·28-31

Ill 25-41

IV 22-41


Balance in Jupiter period

9y-11m-29days

v 18-41

Venus Mars Mars Rahu

Mars 1-2.9-26

Ra 12-9-29 Vl16-41

VII 18-23-59

IX 28-41 Su15·27·53 XI

18-41 X

22-41 Ve27-11·21 VIII 23-41

Moon Mercury 25-14-40 24-14-39

Dr. Kamalesh was running the major period of Saturn from October "72 to October '91.

Students may please note that Saturn is in XI and owns lagna. What is use.

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There are planets in its stars so he does not signify XI & I.

On the contrary Saturn is in the star of Moon in VIII. So he is a full VI lith significator. But he became a qualified Doctor in Saturn period only.

Then How:-

Look at the sub of Saturn. It is Mars sub. Mars in the star of Jupiter in XII owning II & XI.(No planet in II). So thro sub lord it gains the good signification of II & so he could complete the Medical education in Saturn period in Rahu Bukthi and Rahu as full significator of II through sub lord.

In the fag end of Rahu bukthi in Saturn major period he was selected for Research in West Germany, and he continued that till October '91.

Near about October '91 he was here for consultation to know if he had luck to continue his stay in Germany, as he was misguided by somebody that Mercury is a bad malefic and will hamper his plans of research study, as Mercury period starts on 17-7-91, which will be for 17 years.

At that moment, Mohan was here in my room and was consulted. He gave him to understand that Mercury period is a· very good one, better than Saturn and he is fortunate to continue his research in Germany.

And as predicted by Mohan, he is still there, in Germany, doing research successfully.

Then how, when Mercury is in VIII and owning V, (having no planet in its star), signifies V & VII fully, which are detrimental for successful matters.

As Mercury is in the star of Mars, again signifies V.

How VIII & V could sustain him to continue there, with better circumstances, which the Dr. really enjoys there and progressing in the Research very well.

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Mohan clearly explained to him that Mercury is in the sub of Rahu, duly placed in the star of Saturn in XI , owning lagna and XII, which tells the fortunate circumstances to be enjoyed by him. As predicted by Mohan the Dr. continues there with recognition in his work.

Now, I take up the Horoscope. of Mr. K. Venkatachalam of Salem, a multi crorepathi.

He was born on 30-4-30 at 7-30 a.m. at Salem 11-39/78-12.

Ayanamsa 23-00-44


Sun Moon Venus Mercurry Moon Rahu Saturn Mercury Mars Rahu Rahu Jupiter Mercury Rahu Kethu Jupiter Jupiter Sun

The native of this birth chart had been here for consulation just a week before writing this article.

Xll28-48-41 Jup3-11-27 II 0·48-41

Ket 26-11 -5 Sa tum 12-50·3:> Venus

Mercury 12-2-58 Mars 1·29-39

SU1 25-36·1 25-11 -13 16-31 -55

11126-48-41

XI IV 24-48-41 Nirayana Bhava 23· 48·41

Chakram Balanc.e in Mars

tviOM period at Birth

24-33·33 6y-4m·29days v X 23·48·41

24·48-41

IX 26-48·41 VII Rahu

VIII 26-11·5 0·48·41

2·50-3) VI2B·48·41

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He presented the horoscope and asked nie if I can tell anything about the period, at the same time pointing out the Vraya position of Saturn. He is now running the major period of Saturn now from September '80 to September '99.

Of course Saturn is in XII having no planet in its star Poosam, Anusham & Uthrattathi. It is a full significator of XII. It owns X & XI. But there are planets, Moon in ..-x and Mercury & Kethu in XI.

So finally it is to be taken as bad period.

Of course, Saturn is in the star of Ketu in XI. This tells a good matter and happy circumtances to happen.

That Ketu in XI, being Pisces, represents Jupiter in XII, owning VIII, IX & XII (there are planets in XII)

Stellar strength in not very encouraging.

As the horoscope presented to me was in Traditional type. 1 referred the Emphemeris and found Satun in Aries 12-2-58 and so in the sub of Mercury and Mercury in XI in Revathy star so fully signifies XI & as Mercury owns II, Ill & VI, these benefic significations also, emboldened me to tell that he is running a very good period, with high materia l standard, heavy cash flow etc.

Through he accepted it, he nodded his head with a slow motion.

Then I again calculated and found out the bukthi now running being that of Moon, From 11-8-91 to 11-3-93.

Moon was discussed.

The students may please note Moon in X in the star of No planet in Moon star. So Moon is a full significator of 1 & X. It is a fine status for anybody to have a roaring professional life and heavy Income.

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And again I looked in to the sublord and it is Rahu. Rahu is in V & No planet in Rahu star and so fully signifies V.

So I told him that here is a heavy fall in his income, though his outword status maintained as the sublord Rahu signifies lagna as it is placed in the star of Mars in legna.

Now, he was glad to openly comeout with his current financial position, as pointed out by me, duly accepting the same.

Only now he came out with his material background, duly accepting my findings which I noted down in the 1st para itself.

Let me now give a descriptive analysis of the nine planets, portaying their strength, how he horoscope can be assesed to have highly placed meteriat background.

Planets Stellar

Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter Venus Saturn Rahu Ketu

Signification

XII, II & I X, I, IV, VII I & VII XI, II, Ill, VI XII, VIII, IX, XI I & VII XII, IX V, I, VII XI, II, Ill, VI

Signification Thro Sublord

X, I, IV, VII V, I & VII V, I, VII V, I, VII XII, II & I XI, II, Ill, VI XI, II, Ill, VI XI XI

From the above details, one can note that planets signify more benefic houses, thro sub lord strength. This has given him a good material status to reckon with.

Of course one should look into the cuspal sublord strength also, with more credence to have ·a final decision or assessment.

Now take up the birth chart of a girl of my locality born on 8-12-1960 at 8-30 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13-04/17.


Ayanamsa 23-17-29.

Xl13-11 X 1-12 Xl3-11 Mars(R)

23-5-31

IX 29-11 I 2-27-00

Ketu Mooo

17-16-38 Nirayana Ellava 22-45~45

Chakrarn 1129-11

Balance in Mercury

VIII 29-11 period

Ralll Ve 4-39-31 9y-2m-22days 17-16-38 VII 2-27·00 11129-11

Satum SuZ3-15-39 Z3-39-16 Mercury IV 1-11 Ju15-27-39 8-3·9 Vt 3-11 v 3-11

This girl got married on 18-6-92, only in her 32nd year.

At the time of marriage it was the major period of Venus, bukthi of Saturn and Anthra of Rahu.

Let me discuss for the sake of students of KP how these three planets rule the marital significations under sublord strength also.

Saturn bukthi is running from 30-12-90 to 30-2-93 and the anthra of Rahu is from 7-4-92 to 28-9-92.

The Dasa lord Venus is in VII and as Saturn and Rahu in Venus star, Venus is not a Vllth significator. Venus is in the star of Sun in V owning Ill. So. Venus is full signification of V & Ill only if it is not strong enough to give marital matters. But, Venus is in the sub of Saturn in VI owning VII VIII & IX. Saturn is in the star of Venus in VII. and so Venus period should give her marital life, as it gained fruitful signification for marital life i.e. VII thro sublord.

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Sun Moon Venus Saturn Moon Moon Saturn Saturn Mars Saturn Rahu Moon Mercury Ketu Ketti Venus Jupiter Venus

The marriage had taken place in the bukthi of Saturn. Let us discuss how Saturn is connected to marital matters .

Saturn is in VI. owning VII. VIII & IX & is in the star of Venus in VII owning IV & XI. This is a good combination for marriage . .

Marriage actually had taken place the Anthra of Rahu only.

How is Rahu connected to Mar thro sublord. Let me discuss.

Rahu is in II in the star if Venus in VII & so signifies VII & XI and further Rdhu is in the sub of Moon in lagna owning lagna and II and having no planet in its stars, Hastham. Thiruvonam and Rohini . It fully signifies II. ·

And it is in the star of Mercury in V. So the Anthra lord is sig_nifying II & V.

The bhukthi lord is signifying VII & XI

The Dasa lord is signifying VII only, Such a combination of II. VII & XI have culminated in the Anthra of Rahu and the marriage had taken place then.

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SL1B LORD SPEAKS

This time I am discussing the birth chart of Mr. Ramesh well known in our KP world.

Born on 12-10-57 at 12.25 P.~. I ST. place of birth Pu.dukottai, 1 0.23'N/78.52-E.

Ayanamsa 23.14-58. . . . : . . . . .

Balance in Sun period at birth:- 2 Yrs-1 0 months-15 days.·

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Rahu Jupiter Kethu Moon Saturn Venus Venus Mars Mercury Saturn Mercury Mercury Saturn Rahu Moon

Kethu Rahu

IV2-45 v 1-45

KethJ Mooo VII

18-23-53 3-36-37 24-18-2 Vl28-45

11128-45 VIII N irayana Etlava 25-45

Chakram Balance in Sun

period

1125-45 2y-1 Om-15days IX28-45

X1128-45 Mercury

Sa17-18-29 RahJ 16-53-18 · I 24-18-2

Ve 9·18-38 18-23-53 Ms18·32·16

Xl1 ·45 x 2-45 Ju20·21·3:1 Sn25-26·20

Mr. Ramesh started his major period of Rahu on 27-8-77 & . it is for 18 years.

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· ·R.ahu bukthi is from 27-8-1977 to 4-5-1980, Rahu is in its own star in X and so it is a full significator of X, and as node it represents Venus. ·in XI owning V, VI & X (Moon in V). So Rahu fully signifies VI X XI.

Rahu is iri the sub of Mc:>on signifying IX. So in this bukthi he got good service in 1978 and had to leave this service & got another one during February 1980, despite the fact that Rahu signifies VI, X & XI.

He was running the bukthi of Jupiter from 9-5-1980 to 3-1 0-1982. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in V owning VIII. As there are no planets in Jupiter star, it signifies IX, and I. Summing up Jupiter signifies V, VIII, IX & I.

But in this bukthi he was confirmed in service in Indian Airlines & comfortably placed in service, without any trouble. How?

Look in to the sub lord of Jupiter. It is Kethu in IV, placed in the star of Venus in XI owning V, VI & X (Moon in V). so thro sub lord Jupiter signifies IV, (No planet in Kethu stars placed in IV} XI, V I & X fully.

Further he passed out post graduation with distinction as IV is connected thro sub lord.

He used to question me how the bukthi of Sun would be as it was to run from 15-3-1992 to 9-2-1993 as Sun is placed in IX owning IX, and in the star of Mars in IX owning IV, XI & XII. (Kethu in IV and Saturn and Venus in XI)

So. Sun will be signifying IX & XII fully. The question was regarding the fate of his service.

I categorically ruled out troubles, b•Jt I assured him on the contrary, a promotion & high commanding status. How?

Look into the sub lord of Sun. It is Rahu & it is in X in its own star. Further Rahu being node represents Venus in XI, owning


V, VI & X (Moon in V). So Sun thro its sub lord Rahu signifies XI , VI &X fully.

With the advent of Sun bukthi. he was suddenly made in charge of Time office of Indian AirHnes, with nearly 300 people, working under him, with an enhanced salary of Rs. 600/-plus, commanding good status and respect among the staff under him.

The reader may please note, how the sub is working here.

He now accepts his Sun bukthi is working very well, as explained above, any way, he has still lurking with another query of how his Jupiter period would be.

You may please note that his Jupiter is in IX, and owns I. (No planet in Jupiter star Punarpoosam. Visakam & Poorattathy) So it fully signifies IX, I. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in V owning VIII. (No planet in VIII). So Jupiter further signifies V & VIII also.

Summing up Jupiter signifies IX, I, V & VIII.

In view of IX, V & VIII by significations he has a feeling that he will be out of service.

No, I said. Look into the Sub of Jupiter. Luckily it is Kethu in IV, placed in the star of Venus in XI. owning V, VI & X (Moon in V) So Jupiter thro sub lord signifies XI , VI & X. So, he will certainly continue in service with all status I assured him (readers may note that in Jupiter bukthi of Rahu major period he was well placed in INDIAN AIRLINES, as already discussed).

Next I take up Chi. Kauser D/o of my friend born on 13-6-1960 at 10.00 a.m 1ST at Chennai 13.04/80.17

Ayanamsa 23-17-29.

Balance in Moon period at birth :- 2 Yrs 4 months 20 days.

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Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter

Saturn Kethu Venus Saturn Rahu

Mars


IX 26-22-47 1-25-57 XI 2B-22-47 Sn2B-52-12

Ketu 26-43-57

VIII 25-22-47

Vll27-2-56 M-120-8-57

VI ZT-22-47 Salun{R)

X 28-22-47


Bala~e Moon period

2y-4m-20days

23-:D-57 v 28-22-47 IV 28-22-47

Juper(R) 6-19-1

Jupiter Saturn Sun Venus

Mercury 22-'Sl·Sl

XII 27-32-47

127-2-56

11 25-23-47 Rat-u

26-43-57

Ill 26-22-47

The father of the girl came to me for consultation during December 1990, during. Saturn bukthi in major period of Jupiter. regarding her marriage date.

Jupiter period is from November 1987 to November 2003.

Jupiter is in V in the star of Kethu in VIII, and it is in the sub of Rahu in II (No planet in Rahu stars) & so Jupiter signifies II fully & as Rahu is pla.ced in the star of Sun in XI. Jupiter signifies XI also.

So .I told him that Jupiter bukthi could not give marriage as Vllth signification not found (from 3- 11 -87 to 21 -12-89).

Then it is Saturn bukthi from 21-12-89 to 3-7·1992.


Saturn is in V & no planet in its stars .. So it signifies V & VII. Saturn is in, the star of Venus in X, owning IV & XI. So Saturn signifies V, VII, X & IV.

Saturn is in the sub of its own and having no planet in its star, it again thro sub strength, signifies V &VII .

So marriage shall take place in'Saturn bukthi I told him.

When we ~arne it was the anthra of Venus running from 17-11 -90 to 19-4-91.

Venus is in the star of Mars in IX, & in the sub of Jupiter .. and so signifies VIII. So Venus is ruled out.

Then Sun Anthra from 19-4-91 to 0 5~6-91. Sun is in the star of Mars in IX and in the sub of Saturn, duly signifying VII & · Vfully. . ·

I was not confident to tell that marriage matters can ·come up in this Anthra, as Sat~rn the bukthi lord is Retrograde from 16-5-1991.

Then it is Moon anthra from 5-6-91 to 21-8-91. Moon is in its own star and in VI and so signifies I & VI & thro sub lord. kethu signifies VIII VI & IX not connected to marital matters.

As bukthinatha Saturn will be in Retrograde motion from 16-5-91 and so matters of Saturn i.e., V & VII cannot fructify at all ti.ll it bec9mes: direct by 18-12-91. ·

Mars Anthra is frqm 21-8-91 .to 14-10:-9.1. Mars is in th~ star of Kethu in VIII and in the sub of Venus signifying IX, It is not indicating marital matters.

Then it is Rahu anthJa from 14-10-91 to 1 -3-92. Rahu is in II (No planet in its star) and so signifies II fully and it is in the star of Sun in XI owning II. Hence Rahu fully signifies II & XI. So matters are very good .. Rahu is in the sub of Sun signifying IX. Hence; it can give marriage as the bukthinatha Saturn becomes · Direct on 18-12-91 itself.

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So the marriage will take place in Rahu anthra. I told him & it took place on 2-2-92. · ·

Summing up I must point out to students that in the bukthi of Saturn a full significator of V & VII thro sub lord strength, marriage had taken place in the Anthra of Rahu signifying II & XI thro stellar position and IX thro sub lord, in the major period of Jupiter who signifies XI thro sub lord Rahu.

Now the girl is in the family way & Doctor's have confirmed the same.

She is now running the bukthi of Mercury from 3-7-92 to 8-10-94.

Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in V, and is in XI, having no planet in its stars and so signifies V & XI. So V & XI are the matters. Sub will fructify the same. Mercury is in the sub of ·· Saturn in V & no planet in Saturn stars. So fully signifies V. Hence the birth of child is there, soon.

Another birth .chart, I take up for discussion, the Native Mr. Murali born on 9-3-1961 . at 3.42 p. m. 1ST at Chennai 13.04/ 80.17

Ayanamsa 23-18-19.


Sun Mercury Venus Sun " ·' ' Moon Jupiter Saturn Saturn Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury Mercury Mercury Kethu Saturn Jupiter Mercury

Mr. Murali is now running major period of Venus from 25-6-85 for 20 years.

Venus has no planet in its st?rs and placed in IX & so he signifies IX, fu lly along with XI feebly as Mars tenants XI.

Venus in the star of Kethu in VI I.


Venus Mars

IX 17-17·22 3~21·53 XI 11-54-20

20-17-22 XII X 19-17-22 19-17-22

Sn25-18·11 VIII

16·17·22 Nirayana Bhava 118·29·24 K12·3l-54 Mert-40-11 Chakram

Balance in Saturn Vll18-29·24 period Rah.l Jupiter Oy-3m-15days 12-3)-54 5-36-47

Satum II

3-41-14 16-17-22

VI v 20-19-22 IV Ill Moen 19-17-22

16-27·37 19-17·22 17-17-22

The bukthi of Venus ran from 28-6-1985 to 25-10-88. In this bukthi he passed CA & got into a foreign bank. How IX & VII gave him good service & success in CA examination.

Look into the sub lord of Venus. It is Sun .and it is in VIII. As Jupiter and Saturn are in its stars, Sun does not have Vl!l signification. Sun is in in the star of Jupiter in VI owning VI & IX. So thro sub Sun gets the full signification of VI. So Venus bukthi gave him' service and success inCA exam.

Next bukthi of Sun came & it is between 25-1 0-88 and 25-10-89. In this bukthi he has been transferred to Bangkok with better arrangmenets. How it happens?

Sun is in VIII. As there are planets in Sun stars, Sun does not signify VIII, Sun is in the star of Jupiter in VI owninig IX. IX tells foreign life. Look into the sub lord also whether it connects to foreign life. The Sub lord is Mercury. Mercury is in VII & No planet in its stars, So it signifies VII. I and XII. Ill & XII tells foreign movements and stay. Further Mercury is in the star of Mars in XI owning V & X (No planet is X & V) So he was transferred to

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BANGKOK soon after this beginning of Sun bukthi with better emoluments.

When the father of the boy was consulting Sun bukthi, a query was put by the father that his son's ambition of a higher status, (as the boy passed ICW) will be fulfilled in this bukthi itself. before 25-10-89.

As the sub lord signifies X & XI thro·Mars, I was about to tell that he will get his ambitions fulfilled (ie to become financial controller). But I was hesitant & handed over the birth chart to Mr. Mohan who was with me then. He categorically ruled outhis getting the higher status, as the sub lord was signifying VII & V also which will stand in the way of his getting the desired elevation in Sun bukthi.

He quickly made an elimination process & told that it is Moon bukthi from 25-1 0-89 to 25-6-91.

Moon signifies I, IV, VI & thro sub lord Jupiter signifies VIII & II so no elevation.

Then Mars bukthi 25-6-91 to 25-8-92. Mars is in the star of . .

Rahu in I & in the sub of Saturn, again signifying VIII & II, again no change for betterment.

Rahu bukthi from 25-8-92 to 25-8-95. Rahu is in Lagna bhavam. in .the star of kethu in VII and thro sub lord Mercury signifying XI & X apart from VII & V.

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But Rahu as node represents Sun a significator of VI & II .and so better placed. than Sun, now the bukthi lord. So there is· elevation in that bukthj only.

It is intimated to me by the father of the boy that he is now lucky to get that status .from 4th week of September,

From this, one should notice that the strength of the matter portrayed by the bukthi lord is allowed to fructify by the signification of sub lord. It is a subtle matter that the bukthi lord Sun though signifies VI but it is tagging will IX also. Where as

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Rahu as node gets a powerful connection to lagna again thro Sun, as it represents Sun a full significatorof II & VI. comparably better placed & powerful.

That is how the argument goes by Mohan, and it came true. It is his argument that while giving credence to sub lord, one should not lose sight of the strength of the stellar strength also.

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84 · SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

During July this year, my wife was bad with ill health and she consulted Mr. Mohan.

Query: Regarding sickness and health.

She herself gave No. 51 between 1 & 249.

Taken up for working at 12.7 p.m. on 31-7-92 at Madras Ayanamsa 23-44-26.

Planet Sublord Planet Sub lord

Sun Rahu Venus · Jupiter Moon Mars Saturn Venus Mars Venus Rahu Mars Mercury Kethu Kethu Venus Jupiter Jupiter

Lagna cusp sublord is .Ketu and it is in the star of Mars in XI owning VJ, and is in the sub of Venus in II signifying I, II & IV.

Mars

X 9·47-16 XI 12-54-34 9·18-45 K4-48-54 XII 114·26-40

14·45-22

II 10·15-54 IX Sn11·33·43

8·20·19 Nirayana Bhava Me19·00·19 Chakram Ve27-40-8

Balance in Ketu Sat period Mo<n

21·55·21 4y-211l-9days 5-21-4 VIII Ul 8·20·19

10;15·54 Ju21 ·12-47

VII 14·26·40 VI v IV

Rat-u 14-45-22 12-54·34 9-47-16 4·48-54


So lagna is c€ntered around VI & IV, and it i.s a bad sign for health matters.

Vlth cusp was .looked in to. The sublord is Rahu and it is in VI & no planet in its stars, and so it is a very serious matter.

Rahu is in the star of Kethu in XII. This tells chronic type, Hospitalisation for a longer period. Always lagna tells consolidation where as Xllth tells destruction while discussing such health matters.

Rahu is in the sub of Mars owning VI and so serious sickness.

As Rahu the sublord of the Vlth cusp is connected to Taurus, thro Mars the sublord of Rahu, he confirmed the location of sickness and affliction is centered around Throat. Please note that Mars stands for serious sort of ulcers.

Doctors dia-gnosed at a later date that she was suffering from CANCER in THROAT.

Mohan already suspected the Same and the trouble in throat only, he worked that the matter to be death with utmost caution pnd to. take heavy and quick steps.

And I accordingly consulted experts like the Son of Dr. . Sundaravadanam and Dr. Sastry of Adyar Cancer Institute.

They advised that feeding to be thro a tube to the stomach and it was done in Dr. Sundaravadanam Nursing home.

My wife was suffering too much and" so I again sent for Mr. Mohan last week and posted a query· as under:-

How long the suffering arid when .it ends for my wife Savithri.

I gave a number 84, between 1 & 249 for the above query and it was worked out by Mohan at 12-1 0 noon on 1-11 -92 at Chennai 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-44-16.

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Planet Sub lord Plenet Sub lord

Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter

Venus Saturn Sun Venus Moon

VIII 28-57-23 VII 0-0-0

Sat 18-18-17

Ma 3-11-31 VI 0-38-18

IX 0-10-14


X1·26-&> Kelu

29-53-54

Nirayana 8hava Chakram

Balance in Sun period

3y-om-22days

v 1-27-9

Ra29-53-54 Ve21-29-14 MerS-53-50 IV 1-26-&>

Sn 15-21-24

Ill 0-1Q-14

Venus Mercury Saturn Saturn

Xl1-27-9 Mars

29-16-44

XII o-38-1e

I 0-0-0 II 28-57-23

Jupiter 10-42-4

As the query is virtually about the Longevity of my wife, the Vllth cusp and its sublord were looked into.

It was Mercury.

Taking Vllth cusp as my wife's lagna, Mohan discussed the

matter, as under.

Mercury the sublord of lagna VII is in X (IV), in the star of Saturn in XII (VI) owning II (VIII)

So it is very weak and tells the very weak status of her

longevity.

To confirm his, he again looked into the sublord of Mercury. It

was Venus.

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Venus isX (IV) and no planets in its stars and so X is the full · signification of Venus X tells the· last journey of a person, in such matters, like longevity.

. Further Venus owns IX (Ill) As Aquarius is the Lagna (VII) IX IS a Bhadhaka status. ·

Venus is in the star of Mercury in X (IV) last journey indicated.

So Mohan indicated to me that her last days are very very near.

He worked out the Ruling Pla.nets for the time, the Horary chart is rnade. .

It were Sun, Saturn/Moon, Saturn/Sun.

So, he said that the life may end in end in the comb.ination of Moon, Saturn and Sun.

And he pointed out that, as the lagna cusp VII Sublord being Mercury a fast moving planet, (only next to Moon) the end is very very near and hinted that it Will be 16-11-92,-as it is a Monday, Poosam (Saturn) star and in Sun sub.

(Moon/Saturn/Sun) if the same does not t~ke place on Monday. Thiruvonam star (Makara rasi of Saturn) and Sun sub. Thiruvonam star that is in the night of 2-11-92. (Moon/Saturn/ Sun)

Actually the end came at 3-45 a.m. of 3-11-92, but Mohan did not tell me personally, except thro 'Jaj bhay' another friend of l"!'line and KP follower.

As indicated therein now it is the major period of Mars from 22-7-89 to 22-7-96 and currently is the bukthi of Saturn from 13-11-1991 to 22-12-1992 ..

We discussed thread-bare the signification. of Saturn, the bukthi lord.

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Saturn is in VII in the star of. Venus in X There are planets in the star of Venus and Saturn. So Saturn signifies IV & X.

So in terms of VII (reg wife) S~turn fully signifies X ·

Saturn is in· sub of Mars in VIII and so X marakadhipathi as from VII, he is in its own star.~nd no planets in its stars.

As Mars own Ill & X, Mars gets the signification of IX from VII (Leo) and for Leo, IX is Bhadhakasthanam.

Hence, the bukthinatha, Saturn gets the signification of .X thro stellar status and II & IX thro sublord status.

Hence; the pukthi of Saturn is bad for Longevity for wife more so during Jupiter Anthra which starts on 29-10.:.92.

It is very bad from 29-10-92 as Jupiter is in VI in the star of Mercury in XII, and placed in the· sub of Venus and Venus signifies Ill, as it is in the constellation of Kethu in Ill.

Ill is IX from VI.! & VII cusp is in Leo and so the Anthranatha Jupiter, acquires the signification of Bhadakasthana. ·

She passed away with the advent of Jupiter Anthra i.e. after 29-10-92.

Now; I like to draw the ·attention of KP followers and students how the signification of Saturn, during the end, b~ing X, II & IX & Jupiter the Anthranatha getting XII. IX & these significations are portrayed in the Horary by Mr. Mohan being X, XII IX & II.

Now I draw the attention of old students of KP, during the life time of Sri KSK to the fact that he too often emphasised that the Horary is nothing but the portrayal of true and intricate matter what is found in a Natal Position (birth chart).

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In continuation of my series of Articies. today I have chosen to discuss the Horoscope of Sow. Janaki. who got married on 17-8-92. The planetary configuration is unique & so taken to discuss this chart.

Born at 3.30 a.m. 1ST on 3-9-70 at Perambur. Madras 13.04/ 80.17.

Ayanamsa: 23-25-51.

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord Sun Moon Jupiter Jupiter Moon Venus Venus Venus Mars Rahu Saturn Mars Mercury Saturn Rahu Rahu

Kethu Jupiter

It is the major period of Rahu for the native from 28-5-1988 for 18 years.

X 10-45 XII

IX 8·45 Sa tum Xl11 ·45 11-45

29-11-9

RahJ 8-~-24

110-46-58 VIII Nirayana Bhava 7-45 Chakram

Balance in Sun period at birth Mars

6-23-19 VII Oy-8m-25days 117-45 10-46-58 Ke 8-23-24

Sn16-34-19

IV 10-45 Mercury(~)

Vl11·45 v 11-45 Ju9-22-19 3-53-49

lvtiS-21·~ Ve2-40-24 1118-45

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She got married on 17-8-1992, whef! it is the major period of Rahu, bukthi of Jupiter, Anthra of Venus sookhma of Mercury.

How is Rahu?

Rahu is in VIII in its own star and it is in the sub of Rahu (in its own sub) being a Node represents Saturn fu lly, because, there is no planet in Saturn stars and in 7th also, at the same time Saturn signifies 2nd house. So Rahu fully signifies 7, 8 & 2 thro Saturn Indicates marriage unexpectedly.

Jupiter is in Ill (No planet in its stars) & so signifies Ill, VI & XI. Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in VIII &. so Jupiter has the significations of Ill. VII X & VIII under stellar strength.

Jupiter is in the sub of its own and so signifies VIII as it is in the star of Rahu in VIII.

So, though VIII is not a negative one for marriage, but not well connected to marital matters.

Then how, these planets allowed the marriage on 17-8-1992 in Rahu period, Jupiter bukthi.

Here we have to look in a different angle. Rahu is coming in the scene & it is a Node. Rahu is in Aquarius & no planet tenents its stars and so he is the only sole representative of Saturn, so he fully signifies what Saturn stands for.

How is Saturn?

Saturn is in X and no planet in its stars & so Saturn signifies X, VII & VIII. Saturn is in the star of Sun in II owning II. Saturn is in the sub of Mars duly signifying II.

Hence, Saturn siginifies X, VII, VIII, II.

So, Rahu acquires these significations & so marriage in Rahu period.

By virtue of Jupiter placed in the sub of its own, it fully signifies Rahu in VIII. Who in turn acquired the strength of II & VII, as a

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representative of Saturn.

So marriage in this bukthi of Jupiter.

Marriage date· falls in the Anthra of Venus & sookshama of Mercury.

Venus is in Ill in the star of Mars in I owning V. Venus is in its own sub & so signifies I & V. V is good for Happy occasions in a native's life.

Mercury sookshma, Mercury is in II and no planet in Mercury star, and so gets the signification of II, Ill & XII Mercury is in the star of Sun in II owning II. II for kutumba Ill for contract and XII . sayanasukam.

Mercury is in the sub of Saturn a full significator of X, VII & VIII & II.

So, the marriage was solemized in this Sookshma of Mercury.

Now. I take up the Horoscope of Mr. K. Karuanakaran born on 20-9-1954 at 4.30 a.m. 1ST Madras 13.04/80.17.

Ayanamsa: 23-12-27

Planet Sub lord Planet SUb lord

Sun Saturn Venus Moon Moon Saturn Saturn Mercury Mars Rahu Rahu Mars Mercury Rahu Kethu Sun Jupiter Rahu

Let me discuss various incidents in his life· & how the sub lords of planets ruling then acted and the events taken place.

He got married on 19-2-1978. Then it was the major period of Jupiter from July to July 1983.

Jupiter is in its own star in XI & so signifies XI, VIII fully and V . feebly. And being in the sub of Rahu signifies Ill only.

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Mn10·28-8 Vlll IX X XI 12·18·51

10·18·51 11-18·51 12-18-51 Ketu 17-39-41

VII Ju 1-46-8

10·50·23 Nirayana Bhava XII

Chakram 11-18·51

Balance in Rahu period at birth

VI 12y-10m-8days I 11-18-57 10-50-23

Mars Venus . Slll3-15-8

18-10-15 IV . 18-34-25

1110-18-51 Sa13-38-18

Ra17-19·41 12·18-51 Ill Mercury

v 12·18-51 11-18·51

24-34·58

So, in Jupiter period, he should enjoy all happiness XI, sexual enjoyment VIII, Happy occasions like marriage & child birth V & should enjoy these on the positive side as sub signifies Ill and as also X comes in, he should enter into professional life too.

It di~ happen in different sub periods well connected to such matters thro their sub lords.

So. the major period lord Jupiter has Vth signification duly connected to Ill sub tells ha.PPY occasions in life.

On the day of his marriage it was the bukthi of Sun from 1 0-2-78. to 28-11-78. Let us discuss Sun.

Sun is in Lagna in its own star end so Sun is a full significator of Lagna only. So thro Sub alone it should have given marriage.

S1Jn is in the .sub of Saturn owner of VII cusp placed in Ill. Saturn has no planet in its stars and so fully signifies VII & Ill.

Further Saturn is placed in the star of Rahu in V.

So marriage took place in this bukthi of Sun. He entered service on 26-7-1976. It was then the bukthi of Venus (from 1 0-6-75 to 10-2-78).

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Venus is in Ill. owning X. There are planets Mars and Rahu in Venus stars and so Venus does not signify X at all. Moreover Venus is tenanting ,the star of Rahu placed in V. This utterly negates a man e.ffering in to service.

How then in this.bukthi?

Look into the sub lord of Venus. It is Moon, Moon is in X, and ·no planet in its stars, and so Moon attains full signification of X. This gave him service entry in this Venus bukthi .

He has only daughter born on 14-12-78. and it was then Moon bukthi (28-11 -78 to 28-3-80).

Moon is in the star of Rahu in V & under stellar position itself Vth matters have come and the matter is well confirmed by the sub lord of Moon i.e., Saturn having been placed in the star of Rahu in V. So Moon gets Vth signification thro its sub lord also, and so only child birth in this bukthi.

Purchase of a House done during 1982. It was in the bukthi of Rahu from 4-3-1981 to 28-7-1983.

Let us see how Rahu connected to IVth matter.

Rahu is in V in the star of Venus placed in Ill owning X. · Students well know that Ill & X are quite detrimental houses for one to acquire the IV house matters.

So sub also should have acted.

Rahu is in the sub of Mars owning IV & No planet in IV.

Hence, purchas~ of a house in Rahu bukthi.

He got another flat purchased during 1990 beginning and it was Kethu bukthi in Saturn period.

Kethu bukthi is from 10-4-89 to 19-5-90.

Kethu is in XI & no planet in Kethu stars so Kethu signifies XI.

Kethu is in the star of Rahu in V.

V & XI does not connect House matters.

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Now as usual look in to the sub lord. It is Sun a full significator oflagna.

Then how he got a house in this bukthi.

"It is a baffling matter, in the case of Nodes" as our Late Guruji, Sri. KSK's oft-quoted line. Now it is a Vedavakku for us.

As told above Kethu in Mithunam (Gemini) having no planet in its stars, it fully represents the Rasi lord Mercury and its significations.

See· how Mercury signifies. Mercury is in II owning XI, without ' any planet in its stars, and so signifies II & X I. Further Mercury

is in the star of Mars owning IV & no planet in IV. So Kethu had acquired the IVth matters thro its Rasi lord.

So, a flat in Kethu bukthi. You please lend your patient ear to me now.

When bukthinatha Kethu could give a house to him, one should scrutinise if the Dasa lord has any indications connected to house matters.

Reverting back to discuss the Dasa lord Saturn, and its period is from 28-7-1983 to 28-7-2002 Saturn is in Ill. No planet in its stars so it fully signifies Ill, VI & V II .

Saturn is in the star of Rahu in V. So signifies V also.

In stella r strength no IVth house matter then what look into sub lord. lt is Mercury and Mercury is in II owning XI & no planets in its stars. So Mercury is a full significator of II & XI. Furthermore Mercury is in the star of Mars in V owning IV. No planet in IV.

So. thro sub, Saturn the Dasa lord fully signifies II , XI, V & IV.

So I find that Dasa lord has a say to the happenings, during various bukthis, in such manner.

Mr. Karunakaran is a close friend of Mr. Mohan and he was consulted Juring Saturn bukthi, Saturn period i.e 1986 if he could enter into speeuliltion and will it fetch him monies. It was advised


by Mohan that whether he speculates or not, he is getting Tons of money during Mercury bukthi duly forwarding his arguments in support of his prediction.

Mercury bukthi from 1-8-86 to 10-4-89 and Mercury in II owning XI without any planet in its stars. So fully signifies II & XI.

Mercury in the star of Mars in V & so IV, V, IX. So summing up stellar strength is II, VI, IV, V & IX.

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu in V (There are planets in Rahu stars) Rahu is in the star of Venus in Ill owning X.)

So, Mr, Karunakaran·had hereby flow of additional finance thro speculation. duly swelling his bank balance in Mercury bukthi,

So Mercury had specially acted so well as it is in the major period of Saturn as already explained, its signification being too well , having II & XI significations thro its sub lord Mercury.

The native had change in his service to a better organisation on 1-3-1991.

It was Venus bukthi in the major period of Saturn.

Venus bukthi is from 19-5-1990 to 17-7-93 and Venus is in the star of Rahu in V. V tells trouble in the current service. But there was nothing like that.

As an offer came from a better organisation he switched over to it. The sub lord substantiates the major change with better status.

Venus is in the sub of Moon ,& Moon is in X. having no planet in its stars and so fully signifies X. Hence a better status. The same Moon owns XII cusp and no planet in XII. So. Xllth also comes in. Hence, change to a new environment with high service conditions in terms of the major Dasa Lord Saturn.

OM TAT SAT

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SUB LORD SPEAKS

I take up the Horoscope of Smt. N. Of Srivilliputhur who is well placed in service, but not so at all in her matrimonial life.

She was born on 5/6-1-1954 at 3.10 a.m. 1ST at Srivilliputtur ' 9-36/77-46.

Ayanamsa 23-12-24.

Balance in Sun period at birth 3 years 5 months 26 days.


Sun Jupiter Venus Sun Moon Jupiter Saturn Kethu Mars Venus Rahu Jupiter Mercury Moon Kethu Mars Jupiter Rahu

v VI \1116-44-33 VIII 9-21 9-21 Jur;:ier(R) 5-21 25-15-3

IV Ketu 1-15-53

7-21 IXS-21

-· U15-21

Ml2-14-43 X 7-21 Rah.J

1-15-53

Sa2··51-28 Mars

16-38-38 Me16-31-38 16-44-33 Sa tum Xl9-21

Ve16-10-~ 14-38-13 115-21

I x;~ !.:·~~,

She entered service as Stene in Air Port of Madras during the middle of 197 4, corresponding with the beginning of Rahu major period which started on 2-7-1974.


Let us discuss how Rahu fared well with securing service.

Rahu is in II, in the star of Sun in II, owning X, No planet in X th bahava .. It is matter, telling on the professioal one.

Sub alone decides if the matter shown by the stellar position gets fructified or not.

Now look into the sub lord of Rahu. It is Juiter in VII owning 11 & V. Kethu is in Jupiter star Punarpoosam. So Jupiter does not signify II, V & VII.

What is its (Jupiter's} Stellar strengths? Jupiter is in the star of Mars in XII, owning I & VI (Note that there are no planets in both I & VI bhavas). So Jupiter acquires the signification of XII, I & Yl fully.

So in the bukthi and Anthra of Rahu having the matters of 11 & X, and being in the sub of Jupiter signifyin-g VI fully, gave her lucrative service in Air Port. ·

This is the good portion of Rahu is II, X thro star and VI thro sub. These significations got her service.

Bad position is X, I, XII VI & these will tell upon the matrimonial portion of life. These significations delayed her marriage upto. her age of 28 and she got married during Saturn bukthi (8-8-79 to 8-8-82) during August '81.

That time is worked out to be in the Anthra of Mars 25-6-1981 to 24-8-81.

First let us look into the significations of Saturn to bring about · the marriage.

Saturn owns Ill & IV is in XII (No planet in its stars). So Saturn fully signifies Ill, IV & XII. Saturn is in the star of Rahu in 11.

So, II & Ill has connection to marriage matter IV & XII detriment matter for the same. ·

Let us discuss if Sublord gives a helping hand for bringing about the marriage.

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Saturn is in the sub of Kethu, who is in turn placed in the star of Jupiter in VII owning II & V.

Hence, the matter of II & Ill with the help of Sublord significators VII , fl & V got her married in Mars anthra. (Mars is in the star of Rahu in II & in the sub of Venus in II in its own star owning VII.

Now we will switch over to the major period of Rahu, as already pointed out in the previous paras that the bad portion of the significations X, I, XII & VI as regards matrimonial life. will also work out.

Now In Saturn bukthi with its signification of VII. VI & V thro sub gave her marriage in Mars anthra who in its tum signified II & VII thro its Sublord Venus.

As the entire period of Rahu tells a bad one matrimonially (X, I, XII, VI) she got out of her husband's house during July '82 and subsequently got Divorced during 1985 beginning.

It was Mercury bukthi from 14-6-1982 to 2-1-89 when she finally left the house.

Mercury is in the star of Venus in II owning Vii & XII.

But Mercury is in the sub of Moon placed in the star of Sun owning X (No planet in X).

So in the major period of Rahu fully acquiring the major detrimental significators "tor marital life had brought about the break in the marital life in the bukthi of Mercury with Xth signification thro Sub and finally in the lag end of that bukthi got Divorce also.

So you may note in Mercury bukthi the total significators of Rahu and Mercury i.e. X, I, XII, VI of Rahu & X of Mercury worked out _the detriment matter and go implemented and Divorce effected.

Let me discuss another horoscope of Mr. S.H. born on 23-3-1959 at 5.00 p.m. at Vayalpad (Madanapalli) 13-4/78-37.


Ayanamsa 23-16-38


Sun Venus Vensu Saturn Moon Jupiter Saturn Mercury Mars Jupiter Rahu Venus Mercury Kethu Kethu Venus Jupiter Venus

Ke2:>-26-56 Venus X 19-3)

Me18-&l-10 XI VIII18-3J 9-51-21 Mars 19-3) SuB-49-16

IX 19-3) 16-52-32

VII XII 18-35-8 Nirayana Bhava 18-3)

Chart Balanc~ in Venus

period I 18-35-8 VI 9 y - 4 m - 25 days

18-3) MOCI'I 2:>-27-53

v 19-3) IV 19-3) Ill

1118-3) Sa tum Jupter(A)

18-3) Raru 13-18-52 8-39-53 2:>-26-56

He is a Railway employee from July '84 when it was the bukthi of Mars the major period of Mars.

Mars is in its own star in X & so fully signifies X & in the sub of Jupiter in if placed in the star of Saturn in IV owning IV (no planet in VI}, So he got into service il') the bukthi of Mars. . .

Again you discuss Mars, who being placed in the sub of _ Jupiter in Ill (No planet is its stars) and so signifies Ill, V & VIII

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and being in the star of Saturn in IV owning VI, some accident matters also seen. (IV, VIII, XII fall under IV th Trigon).

Actually he was involved in a very serious accident resulting in a head-on collusion with a fast moving lorry on 13-1-1987.

It was the major period of mars, who, thro sub signifies IV & VI and it indicates Accident mattes. Now it is the bukthi of Saturn and Anthra of Saturn (from 3-12-86 to 6-2-87) and he had operation on his Skull and was hospitalized for a full year ie. entire Saturn bukthi( from 3-12-86 to 12-1-88)

How Saturn, in his chart, indicates Accident.

Saturn is in IV, in the star of Kethu, in VIII, IV & VIII tell accidents (IV, VIII & XII). This is the stellar status of Saturn and this tells the matter. Whether they will happen or not, the Sublord & its signification tells.

What is the Sublord of Saturn. It is Mercury. Mercury is in VIII in its own star, owning XI & II (No planet in XI, Rahu in II). So the VII I signification thro Sublord had given him very serious Accident.

How then a long Hospitalisation when Saturn signifies XI also, thro its sub lord Mercury as discussed above?

This is very subtle and Moon point to be discussed.

Saturn signifies thro sub, VIII & XI fully. VIII gave him accident.

XI must have given him immediate relief and no Hospitalisation. Then how Hospitalisation?

Now you look into the Sublord of the XI th cusp. This will tell what the XI th house is. It is the secret of 'Krishnamurti Padhdhati'.

The Sublord is Mars.

Mars is in X in its own star and so signifies X & IX fully (XI th tells de-hospitalisation & X negates the same power of XI) .

Mars is in the sub of Jupiter owning V & VIII & being in the star of Saturn in IV owning VI tells accident, operation and

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sickness and no relief expected out of XI th. (In general XI th tells dehospitalisation & immediate relief from sickness normally).

At his juncture I may recall my Article in Astrology & Athrishta of May 1981 Edited by Sri. K. Subramaniam who is also the Editor of this esteemed Magazine KP & Astrology' under caption 'Cuspal sublords and their impact on Dasa effects' and I advise the students to read the same to widen their knowledge regarding the Cuspal sublords.

As the major period lord Mars, is connected to VIII, IV & VI thro sub, even the fag end of mars J!',leriocl, he has been operated upon in the beginning month of 1991 also.

You can now see how the Subl.ord speaks, in a subtle manner.

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Father of Mr. Kubendran had been here to consult about his Son's career & said not happy at all.

He reported that the boy is missing from 7-2-93 & all in unhappy state of affairs in the family on this score.

1 made the chart, cited here under and that currently he is running the bukthi of Sun from 27-7-92 to 9-7-93.

Sun is in X owning X it is in the star of Venus in X. So Sun is a full significator of X & XII. Sun is well placed in the house of occupation and is in the star of Venus in X.

Then he how is completely unemployed since 6 months as complained by his father.

Look in to the sub lord of Sun.

It is Mercury.

Mercury is in X in the star of Moon in VII owning IX no planet

in IX.

So the 91h signification made him loose his job, despite the fact, Sun is a full significator of X, stellar wise.

He also added that the-·boy left the house on 7-2-93.

Sun thro sub gets 71h and lxth significations, and 121h is not

to be found at all.

So, & felt the complaint of father, as the boy missing is not to be acceptable.

1 first crossed him, saying that the boy is not under missing left, as complained ·by him and he would be returning on the chithirai star day connected to Venus ie 11th February.

Then the father conceded that he received message that he is in his sisters house and will be returning after two or three

days.

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 103 .

Now the students of KP may please note that the absence of 121

h signification, did notmake him wonder in new environments and thus come under missing list.

Students may also note that the Sublord signification of Sun made him unemployed and he suffers a disturbed status domestically also.

Now let us discuss the major period of Saturn from August '82 for 19 years, now running.

Mr. Kubendran born on 12-9-63 at 11-25 a.m. at Madras 13-04/80-17

Ayanamsa 23-19-59.

Steller Planet Sublord Signification signification Thro Sublord X, XII Sun Mercury VII &IX VIII Moon Moon VIII XI,I&VI Mars Moon VIlli VII & IX Mercury Moon VIlli X Jupiter Rahu IV&V X Venus Mars I, VI&XI Ill, I, VI & XI Saturn Rahu IV&V IV&V Rahu Saturn Ill, II, VI & XI II, XII & X Kethu Saturn Ill, I, VI & XI

Saturn is in Ill & no planet in Saturn stars and so signifies Ill fully & IV feebly.

Saturn is in the star of Mars in XI, owning lagna & VI. So XI, I & VI fully.

I asked the father, if the boy had a successful education and good service either to in previous Venus bukthi.

He said that the boy stopped his education with 71h standard and served in more than half a dozen places, with no permanency or continuousely.

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Why was the question.

v 24-37-19 Mn18-9·35

VI VII VIII Jupiter 23-27-19 19-42-16 18-37-19

24-20-25 Ra23-48-57

IX IV 22-37-19 Nirayana Bhava 19-37-19

Chart Balance in Rahu

Sawrn(R) period

X 22-37-19 24-20-13 2 y - 5 m - 24 days Sn25-26-31

11119-37-19 Ve 29-34

Ketu XII Mercury(R)

23-48-57 I 23-37-19 10-16-40 II 18·37-19

19-42-16 Mars IX 24-37-19 6-35-42

The period of Saturn should here given him a good education & fine service from 1982, with the advent of this period of Saturn as it signifies Ill, I, VI & XI.

Then what is the matter and why such a failure in life.

Now you have to resort to Sublord which alone can extend a helping hand to the predictor.

The Sublord is Rahu and it is in VIII, in the star of Jupiter in IV owning II & V (Kethu is in II & no planet in V). So summing go up Saturn signifies thro Sublord, IV & V, detrimental to the professional life of the boy.

· · - This well portrays the real postion of the professional life of the boy, who is suffering an unsettled life.

I take up another horoscope of Sow. D.C. born on 15-12-1954, at 1.30 noon at Madras 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa23-12-27.


Planet Sublord I

I Pia net I I Sublord

Sun Saturn Juipter Saturn Moon Jupiter Venus Saturn Mars Kethu Saturn Staturn Mercury Mars Rahu Mercury

Kethu Mercury

I II Ill Ketl"u

23-20-7 25-26 23-26 13-~113

IV 19·26

Jl.4)iter(R) Mars

14-39-53 Nirayana Bhava Chart v 16-26

Balance in Ketu period

2 y - 3 m - 20 days Moon Xl16·26 8-56-33

Vl17-26

X 19-26 Sn29-35-53 Vlll25-26

Ral"u Mercury Satum VII

13-5-13 23-57-33 23-20-53 23-20-7 IX 23·26 Ven23-9-33

The brother of the native come to me to consult and said that she is suffering much estrangement at the hands of her husband.

The brother is a good KP enthusiast and has a fair knowledge.

. He said, she was married during 1976, is the bukthi of Kethu, major period of Venus.

Let us discuss how Kethu gave her marriage . .

Ketu is in Ill and in the star of Rahu in IX, in Sagittarius, and so represents Jupiter in IV. No much encouraging, as IV, I & X thro Juipter does not tell about marriage.

106 SUBLORD SPEAKS

As Kethu is in the sub of Mercury in IX in its own star duly owning VII, signifies IX & VII, so Marriage in Kethu bukthi, taken place.

Marriage went on well, ~ut her life martially not as it should be. Estrangement from husband was to the core, but marital life continuous without break and the never leaves h.er huaband's house.

Then I discussed Sun period from April '77 to April '83.

Sun is in IX, in the star of Mercury in IX, owning VII. So Sun fully signifies IX & VII. This tells good marital life without break. Of course in her husband's house, status and standard as wife is absent.

Why Sun is in the sub of Saturn, placed in the star of Jupiter in IV, owning I & X (No planets in I & X). IV & X are weak houses for happy marital life.

Then Moon period from April '83 for 10 years, Moon is in V owning V. (No planets in its stars). So, Moon signifies V fully, and further Moon is in the star of Kethu in Ill & so V & Ill is good for happy marital life.

But if you look into the sub lord, it is Jupiter and Juipter is in lv in the star of Saturn in VII, owning XI & XII. (Mars in XI & no planet in XII).

So, thro sub lord, Moon signifies VII & XII. Generally planets signifying IV or VII or XII, natives suffer estrangement from their life partners or business part '3rs. Vllth sustains the marital life, without any break.

So all thro this Moon period, she is suffering estrancement only from her husband who is a very big officer.

Moon period ends by 5-4-1993, and the major period of Mars begins. /

I discussed mars.


Mars is in XI, no planet in Mars stars so it signifies XI & II and being in the star of Rahu, signifies IX. So these are good for marital matters and improvement for marital relationship.

Mars being in the sub of Kethu duly signifiying IX. So I said, there will be a slight improvement in the relationship.

Anyway Rahu, as node represents Juipter in IV. But will be countered by the sub lord Kethu, also a Node, duly representing VII & IX as it represents Mercury in IX owning VIII.

I told the borther that the estrangement will be in low profile and the brother was happy while leaving my room.

Now let me take up another one. I received a letter from Mr K Rajaram Rao of Hyderabad an avid follower of KP system and a subscriber of KP & Astrology.

He indicated No.16 duly given by his brother's daughter in UK, stating that the is suffering from pain left arm for quite a long time and wished that Mr. Mohan also discuss the Horary in detail.

I entrusted this to Mr. Mohan and the Horary map & his arguments are as under.

No.16

Query Health.

Taken up at Chennai 13.04/80.17

Time 5.30 p.m. on 23.1.93

Cusp Sublord

I Saturn v Mercury \11 Saturn VII Saturn XI Mercury

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Sun Venus Venus Moon Mercury Saturn Mars Moon Rahu Mercury Venus Kethu Jupiter . Venus

XII 17-5·23

Venus 26-47- 14 Xl13-5-23

Mn17-50-14 X 13·5-23 Sn9-45-14 Mercury 9·39-44

I II 20-5·23

Keth.J 21 -53-20 25·28-14

Nirayana Bhava Chart Balance in Moon

period 4y-1m-15days

Rah.J 25-28-14

VIII 20-5-23

VII 21-53-20

Venus Rahu Rahu Rahu

1111 6-5-23 Mars(R) 18· 18-44

IV 13-5-23

v 13-5-23

VI 17-5-23 Jupiter

20-53-14

To discuss Diseases, w_.e check up the sub lord of the VI th cusp.

Here it is Saturn. No planet in Saturn stars and it is in X. And Saturn in the star of Mars lord of Lagna & VIII in Ill bhava feels trouble with Arms, shoulders, hands, As Saturn signifies X, no complete cure can be expected.

As Saturn is connected to Ill, corresponding to Gemini, Rheumatic pains in shoulders and Arms, indicated.

As Saturn being the sub lord of VI th cusp it is of chronic in nature and the one as a result of suppressionof Urine and as Saturn is in the sub of Rahu, in VIII corresponding with scorpio,


ruling genitals and rectine, bladder & urithra and suppression of Menstrual, beqomes the other cause for such pain & affliction.

As Saturn is in the sub of Rahu duly signifiying IX & VI Rahu having been placed in the star of Mercry, routed thro Vlll .no complete cure can be expected .

V th cusp sub lord tells if cure is promised at all. The sub lord is Mercury.

Mercury is in the star of Sun, owning V tells there is medical d!lid. Is it effective? Look into the sub lord of Mercry. It is Venus and it is in the star of Juipter in VI owning XII. This tells the ineffective medicines taken by the native or Doctors could not correctly diagnose and prescribe exact medicine.

Summing up, no complete cure is revealed, as 11 1h cusp sub lord is also Mercury duly connected to VI & XII thro its sub lord Venus.

Now it is Mercury bukthi - a significator of V & IX thro star and thro sub signify VI & XII also .. lt is not encouraging up to 8-6-94.

Then Kehtu bukthi from 8-6-94 to 8-1-95 Kethu thro Rahu· sub and representing Venus VI & XII indicated so not good.

Follow Venus bukthi from 8-1-95 to 8-9-96. It is in its own sub and so signifies VI & XI I again and so bad.

S~n bukthis from 8-9-96 to 8-3-97, and it is in the sub of Venus duly signifying VI & XII, so the trouble continues.

Then Mars period from 8-3-97 for 7 years. Mars thro sub lord Moon signifies IV & X. Not happy.

Totally summing up, the trouble continues.

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110 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

Mr. Hari Krishnan is a permanetnt employee of Simpson group of companies, Chennai and he came here for consultation on 9-3-93.

Born on 8/9-9-1967 at 1-25 Mid night 1ST at Tirupati 13-40/ 79-20

Ayanamsa 23-23-20

In this instance, the native was rather rigid and v~ry silent. He wanted to know if the birth time is correct, as the same is during mid-night.

He will neither come out freely with some incidents for me to check up, nor tell at least his date of entry into the service, so. stoic he was.

The breaking point came and Mohan came to the rescue.

Saturn(R) Ratu XII I 16·15-21 6·38·21 17·22 17-2·46 X 12·22 )0 15·22

II 12·22 IX 11·22 Jupiter

Nirayana Bhava Chart 28·52-37

Balance in Jupiter period at birth

Venus(R) VIII

14y-7m-6days 6·54·16 12-22 Ill 11 ·22

Sn 22-4-48

Mo01

VII VI 17·22 21·59·50 Mercury

17-2-46 Mars v 15·22 5·9·29

5-49-2 Kettu N 12·22 6·38·21

So from the traditional style, the birth chart had been calculated by Mohan in a hurried manner with the help of


calculator and the same under Placidius system is shown below.

Planets Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Rahu MQOn Saturn Saturn Mercury Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu Mercury Mercury Kethu Moon Jupiter Saturn

First he discussed the major period Lord Saturn running from April '82 to April2001.

Saturn bukthi is from April '82 to April '85. Saturn is in the star of Mercury is Ill & in the sub of Mercury again and so signifies Ill & I fully & IV feebly.

Mohan indicated to him that he was a student with average status in studioes, then.

Then Mercury bukthi from April '85 tq December '87. Mercury is a full significator of I &Ill & thro sub of its own, signifies Ill fully & IV feebly. So he indicated to him that he should have completed this education successfully, but only average status.

He nodded his head which infused confidence in Mohan's mind.

Then discussed the bukthi of Kethu from Dec. '87 to Feb. '89.

Kethu is in IV in the star of Mars in V owning VI & XI no planets in VI to XI. So matters V, VI & XI. Rather encouraging. Kethu is in the sub of Moon in V in the star of Jupiter in II owning VII & X. Mohan pointed out that he should have entered into some r'ucrative service. No the shed his silent attitude and was happy to accept the predic~ion, duly starting he entered service on 1-7-88.

He wanted to know when his marriage comes up.

Now h·e is running the bukthi of Moon from 18-3-93 to 18-1 0-94.

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Moon is in v owning II (No planet in Moon star). So Moon signifies V & II. Moon is in the star of Jupiter & so II & VII & X. Moon is in the sub of Saturn and so signifies Ill & I. Matters are well connected for marriage to take place & sub also supports the same with lllrd signification. So Mohan selected the Anthra of Ketu. 11-5-94 to 14-6-94 for the marriage to come up Why? Ketu is in the stra of Mars in V owning VI & XI. So V, VI & XI full signification. Ketu is in the sub of Moon ~n V _owning II_ (No planet in its star) & placed in the star of Jup1ter 1n II owmng VII (No

planets in VII).

So he told the consultant that on all counts he is getting married in Ketu Anthra & the boy was happy and went away . promising to intimate us on the fixation of marriage date.

1 take up another birth chart for discussion and to confirm

the efficacy of the sub lord.

Mrs. Kalpana born on 31-10-71 at 11.00 a.m. at Kancheepuram 12'50/79-45. Ayanamsa 23-26-41.

The horoscope is as under:-

rv 29-23 v Saturn(R} VII Mooo 28-23

11-33-20 20-54-19 5-59-34 \1125-23

11.1 Kethu 26-23 16-27-38 Mars Nirayana Bhava Chart VIU 22-23

3-20-12 Balance in Saturn

period

• 22-23 15 y -2m - 16 days IX 26-23 Rahu

16-27-38

XII 25-23 XI 28-23 I Jupiter Mercury X 29-23

20-54-19 15-12-18 27-~-'51

Ve 0-35-18 Sn13-41-4



Sun Mercury Venus Mars Moon Mercury Saturn Mars Mars Venus Rahu Saturn Mercury Venus Kethu Jupiter Jupiter Jupiter

I was consulted regarding the marriage of this girl and it was Venus bukthi then running.

I checked up the major period of Mercury from Jan '87 for 17 years.

Mercury is in X (No planet in its stars) & so fully signifies X, VIII & X. Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XI owning 1 & IV (Mercury in Jupiter star). So under steller status. Mercury signifies XI & IV fully. (Rahu in I & no planet in IV).

Mercury is in the sub of Venus in XI (No planet in Venus Stars). So signifies XI & VI. Venus being in the star of Jupiter and XI and so signifies XI & IV.

This tells, that marriage shall take place in ~ome bukthi , which signifies benefic houses for marriage thro sub.

It was the beginning of Venus bukthi and so I discussed Venus ( 11-6-90 to 11-4-93 ).

Venus has no planet in its stars and is in XI. So signifies XI, VI.

Venus in the star of Jupiter in XI & so signifies XI & IV.

Though XI is good IV & VI are detrimental houses for marriage.

But, Venus was found in the sub of Mars, in II in its own star and owning V & XII so thro sub it signifies II, V & XII.

So I thought the marriage shall take place only in this bukthi, in some good anthra.

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Venus Antl"!ra ends by 1-12-90 & Sun Anthra is upto 22-1-91.

No planet in Sun's star and placed in X owning IX. Sun is in the star of Rahu in Lagna.

As node Rahu in Capricorn represents Saturn in V owning II & Ill.

Sun is in the sub of Mercury in X ( No pla11et in Mercury star) owning VII & X. Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XI.

With the sub strength of VII & XI, I boldly told the consultant that the girl shall get married in January '91 in this Anthra.

Last week they came and told me that the marriage took place as told and also added a good news of child birth for the girl during 151 week of March '93.

That is to say in the same bukthi of Venus from 11-6-90 to 11-4-93.

We have already discussed that Venus.gets II, V & XII thro its sub lord Mars. So child birth also taken place in·the same bukthi of Venus.

Let us see what Anthra it was. It is the Anthra of Kethu from 11-2-93 to 11-4-93.

Kethu is in VII in the star of Saturn in V & is in the sub of Jupiter signifying V. So child birth corroborated ~ell with sub strength.

Yet another birth chart I like to put forth he.re to show how the sub lord alone is the strength of the planet to give good or adverse results in terms of its significations obtained.

Mr. Sadagopan is born on 9-5-1948 at 8-32 a.m. 1ST and Myladuthurai 11 °6' /79°42'

Ayanamsa 23-7-26

KRISHNAMURTI RADHDHATI 115


Sun Mercury Venus Rahu Moon Mercury Saturn Moon Mars Sun Rahu Juipter Mercury Mercury Kethu Jupiter Jupiter Mars

Xl1-11-51 Xll4-1l-51 13·59-38 Aa2J-51-12

Su25-15-49 Mercury . Venus

Mn25·34-7 6-34-41 s.a-49

110-11-51 X Sa tum

28-11 -51 Nirayana Bhava Chart 23-3-49

Balance in Venus Ill 27-11-51

period IX 27·11·51 1y - 10m-15 days Mars

VIII 3-9· 19 0-11·51 rv 28-11-51

J~iter(R) VI Kelh.J 4-56-56

4-11-56 al-51-12 Vll3-59·38 v 1-11-51

· -

The native of this birth chart is a Bank employee and now well placed materially.

Students of KP should look sharp here and I shall discuss the period of Jupiter how steller wise it does not portray the present status of the person.

Jupiter period is from 24-3-1988 for 16 years.

Jupiter is in VII duly owning VII & it is in the star of Kethu, placed in V, V & VII are detriments for one to be in service. But the fact is that the native is in a lucrative Bank service, with the good material back ground.

Now, look at the sub lord of Jupiter and it is Mars.

116 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Mars is in Ill & no planet in Mars star (Chithrai) Avittam, & Mrigaserisham. Mars owns VI & XI, so signifies Ill, VI & XI fully.

So the Dasa Lord Juipter is getting the strength of Mars significatios of Ill , VI & XI. Further Mars in the star of Kethu, a node, who represents Venus, a significator of I & XI and so Jupiter has been rendered powerful to· uphold his material status, with good service condition as well.

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SUBLORD SPEAKS

New I am discussing the Horoscope of Mr. Prasant Kumar now at Jangore.

Born on 16-5-1964 at 11-40 a.m. 1ST at Siwan (Bihar) 26-12 N 84-13 E

Aynamsa 23-20-50

Mercury Xl1-46-1

IX 9-23-31 Slll Venus

27-46-1 Ma13-8-2B 2-3-4 10-25-51 Ju14-45-46

X 29-46-1 A 10-48-24

VIII 27-46-1 XII

Sa10-58-41 2-46-1

VII Nirayana Bhava Chart ·Mom

1-52-19 Balanoo in jup~er 2-48-28

periOd at birth

VI Oy-7m-17days I

2-46-1 1-52-19 II 27-46-1

Ketll.J IV 10-48-24 Ill

v 1-46-t 29-46-1 27-46-1


Sun Juipter Venus Juipter Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn Mars Mercury Rahu Saturn Jupiter Venus Kethu Saturn Mercury Saturn

The native of this birth chart is an IPS Officer & now ASP at Tanjore selected and Posted to that Post during September

. 1990.

118 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Currently it is the major period of Mercury from 7-1-84 to 7-1-2001 .

Let us discuss mercury

Mercury is in IX. Placed in the star of Kethu in V.

Both significations of Mercury IX & V tells a bad status for the person. On the contrary he had good education during this period and passed the competitive examination also during the bukthi of Venus.

Venus gets the Xth signification & thro sub lord Jupiter gets the lvth & Xith signification & so he got the IPS status in this bukthi.

But how the. Dasa lord had given him the elevation to IPS cadre, inspite of the fact it signifies steller wise IX & V, both detriment for a marital progress.

Now, you look into the Sublord of Mercury, it is Saturn. No planet in the stars of Saturn & it is in VII, owning Vi, VII & VIII. So thro Sublord Mercury gets the full signification of VI, VII & VIII. And further the same Saturn is placed in the star of Rahu in XI.

So the VI & XI thro Sublord had strengthed Mercury so much, that the native could rise well above in status.

Having passed out LPS examination in Venus bukthi is explained ·above, he is permanently taken the charge of ASP. Tanjore from September 1990 during Sun bukthi (27 -3-90 to 3-

2-91)

How is Sun placed?

Sun is in X, in its own star duly owning I & II Sun is in the sub of Jupiter duly placed in the star of Venus in XI, at his young age of 28 giving him a very lucrative administrative status.

,The querry from the consultant regarding his marriage &

when?

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI

Currently it is the bukthi of Mars from 3-7-92 to 30-6-93

Let us see it Mars promises the event.

119

Mars is in the IX th & has no planet in its stars. So it signifies IX and as it is in the star of Ketu, it signifies V. And further it is in the sub of Mercury in IX (No planet in its stars) & so signifies IX · & Ill as Mercury own Ill. And further Mercury signifies again V being in the star of Ketu in V.

Hence, these significations does not cannote marital matters.

Then the bukthi of Rahu from 30-6-93 to 18-1-96.

Rahu is in the XI, placed in the star of its own & so fully signifies XI steller wise. It is a good augury.

Rahu is in the sub of Saturn in VII & no planet in Saturn stars & an fully signifies VII & further Saturn is in the star of Rahu in XI.

So thro Sub, Rahu signifies VII & XI & this tells marriage to take place during Rahu bukthi. Saturn Anthra is, between 20-3-94 & 15-8-94, if the same did not come up is Rahu anthra from 30-6-93 to 17-11-93.

Why Saturn Anthra.

Saturn is in VII & no planet in its stars & so fully signfies VII, & as it is in the star of Rahu XI also steller wise.

As Saturn is in its own sub, it again signifies VII & XI & so marriage shall come up in the Anthra of Saturn.

Now let me explain to the students how the strength of the entire horoscope, has been trebled by strenth of the planets thro its Sublord signification & how weak they look thro stellar wise comperatively.

120 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Planets Sub lord Stellar Signification Signification Thro Sublord

Sun Jupiter X, I & II XI&IV Moon Rahu XII, IX XI Mars Mercury IX, V IX, Ill, V Mercury Saturn IX, Ill & V VII, VI, VIII XI Jupiter Venus XI, IV XI Venus Juipter XI XI, IV Saturn Saturn VII, VI, VIII VII, VI, VIII,

&XI XI Rahu Saturn XI VII, VI, VIII, XI Ketu Saturn v VII, VI, VIII, XI

Of the planets only Mars has been rendered by weak & the rest are well connected & signify XI thro Sublord. So, he has stepped in to a very good administrative rank as young as 25 years.

I take up another Horoscope of a great scholar Dr. V.P.A. born on 13/14-9-1939 at4.00 a.m. 1ST at Kancheepuram N 12-50/79.45 E

Ayanamsa 22-59-54

Jlfliter(R) Saturn(R) 12·34·49 7-27-41 X IX

VIII Ke8·19·41 10·33·46 10·33·46 7·33·46 IX 8·36·46 ..

VII XII 8·5·46 9-33-46

Nirayana Bhava Chart Balance in Sun

VI period at birth 18-5-46 9-36-46 1y-10m-12days Me19-34-33

Mars Sn27-12-10 3-48-33 Ve29-27-16

v IV 111"8-33-46 Moen

Ral"l.l 4-13-23 10-33-46 10-36-46

8-19·41 117-33-46

KRISHNAMURTI PAOHOHATI 121

Planet Sublord Planet 1 Sublord

Sun Sun Venus Rahu Moon Saturn Saturn Rahu Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mercury Rahu Ketu Jupiter Jupiter Mars

The native entered service in L:JSA on 1-10-68 & it was Mercury bukthi from 8-7-66 to 26-1-69.

Let us see how Mercury got him the lucrative service.

Mercury owns II & XI in Lagna & no planet in Mercury stars. So Mercury signifies II, XI & I.

Mercury is in the star of Venus in I, owning Ill & X. So Mercury signifies II II & X also.

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu a full significator of II.

So thro star and sub it promises a good status thro service.

The same service he left by Sept. 87. It was the Moon Bukthi in Juipter period (26-11-87 to 26-3-89).

Let us discuss Moon.

Moon is in the star of Sun in Lagna owning Lagna & it is in the sub of Saturn in VIII, placed in the star of Ketu in VIII virtually on the IX th cusp.

This reveals the end of service & change there by.

He indicates that he and his wife lived in different places, owning to the spheres of their profession being in different places. And it is from 1987 upto date.

He was running the major period of Jupiter from July 76 to July 92.

L~t us discuss Jupiter, Juipter is in VIII owning V & VIII.No . planet in Jupiter stars and so fully signifies V & VIII.

122 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning VI & VII and no planet in VI th and VII and so fully signifies VIII also.' ·.

But Juipter is in the sub of Mars in V and no planet in Mars stars. So Jupiter does not show any sep_aration and on the contrary.good love and affection between. them.

But he says that from 1987 they are not able to live together. Let us discuss how?

It was Sun bukthi from 8-2-87 to 26-11-87 is in lagna in its own star and so fully signifies Lagna. Sun is in its own sub and so fully signifies I thro sub 1st negates one to be in family.

Then it was the bukthi of Moon from 26-11 -87 to 26-3-89.

Moon is in Lagna and placed in the star of Sun in Lagna. Moon is in the sub of Saturn duly signifying VIII, by being placed in the star of Kethu. VIII gives disturbances in family and domestic life.

Mars bukthi from 26-3-89 to 2-3-90 Mars is in VI in the star of Sun in Lagna owning lagna. Mars in the sub of Saturn in VIII, placed in the star of Kethu in VIII, same as Moon bukthi.

Rahu bukthi from 2-3-90 to 26-7-92. Rahu thro star & sub signifies it. But as node being in its own star in Thula signifies fully i.n signification of Venus, who in turn fully sign ifies lagna and so lagna negates one- to have the plesure of Kutumbham.

Now I take up the horoscope of a girl by name Sow Maheswari born on 7-7-70 at 1-40 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13-04/ 80-17E.

Ayanamsa 23-52-51


The horoscope is as under : j

' Xl9-52 ' VII

Mercury 13-8-44 VIII

VI 14-52 Sa tum 10-52

21-51 -23 Su21-22-33

26-17-11 Ms29-31-25

v 12-52 X Raru

Nirayana Bhava Chart 11-52

11-55-47 Balance in kethu

period at birth Ve0-38-38

IV 5y-10m-7days

Mn2-8-4 11-52 Ke11 -55-47

XI 12-52

Ill II 113-8-44 ;,u Jupiter

9-52 10-52 2-56-10

14-57

Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Kethu Moon Venus Saturn Kethu Mars Moon Rahu Saturn Mercury Saturn Kethu Mercury Jupiter Venus

The parents of the nat1ve came for consultation the beg1nning months of 1992 and wanted to know when the marriage comes up for the girl.

As the horoscope of the girl was a traditional type, I asked Mr. Velayudamurthy who is a KP student under Mr. Mohan who was also in my room.

They made the Horoscope under Placidious system. I wanted Mr. Murthy to reply the parents.

The. current bukthi was that of Mercury from 24-5-92 to 24-3-95. It was January 1992 when I was consulted and it was Saturn bukthi.

124 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Mr. Murthy discussed Saturn. Saturn is in VII owning IV & V. No planet in Saturn stars and Vth. So Saturn fully signifies VII & V there is Rahu in the IV Bhavam. Saturn is in the star of Venus is X owning I & VIII.

Mr. Murthy was tempted to tell that Saturn being VII & V signifi~ator, marriage could come up. Immediately in the Anthra of Jupiter, being placed in the star of Mars owning II & VII.

Mohan, his Guru alerted him, how he was proceeding with prediction, without looking into the sub lord strength.

They Murthy found that the sub lord of Saturn, Kethu be ing Xth significator, cannot give a helping hand for bringing o~t the marriage. And further Kethu represents Sun, duly signifying Ill, XII & VI detrimental for marital matters. ·

Then he discussed Mercury bukthi from 24-5-92.

Mercury is in IX and no planet in Mercury stars. Mercury owns IX & XII (Jupiter in XII) So Mercury signifies IX"fully. Further Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XII owning Ill & VI No planet in Ill & VI.

So summing up. Mercury signifies IX, XII, Ill & VI.

XII & VI are completely detriment for bringing about marriage.

Now Murthy was alert and told Mohan that Mercury is in the sub so Saturn in VII and No planet in Saturn stars. And so the sub lord Saturn attains VII & V significations fully.

Now boldly declared that marriages with take place in the bukthi of Mercury and Anthra of Mercury and this was conveyed to the parents of the girl. 'Mercury anthra between 24-5-92 to 18-10-92.

Marriage did take place in the above period on 30-8-92.

Last week parents again called on velayudamurthy to know about the prospects of child bearing duly appreciating the prediction about marriage date.


Mohan was present here in my room and he took up the matter and discussed.

It is Mercury bukthi from 24-5-92 to 24-3-95 Mercury thro in sub lord Saturn signifies VII & V fully (As Saturn is in the VII & owns V having no planets in its stars}. So child bearing also can take place in this bukthi of Mercury.

After eleminating process, he choose Rahu anthrax December ('93 to Mary '94) to be the period for the girl to be in the family way end child birth in the bukthi of Kethu which begin on 24-3-95.

Why Kethu bukthi?

Kethu as node, though in X it is on the XI th cusp. Kethu is in 11 -55-4 7 in Leo and XI th cusp 12-52 in Leo, Kethu is in the sub of Mercury and XI th cusp is in the sub of Mercury. Kethu represents Sun a significator of XII & VI tells child birth shall be difficult and Hospitalisation for surgery not ruled out.

Mercury thro its sub lord Saturn fully signifies V.

So Mohan predicted chid birth by March '95 and the parents were happy.

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SUB LORD SPEAKS

1 reproduce the brrth chart of Mrs. Kauser D/o. my friend, born on 13-6-1960 at 10.00 a.m. IST·at Madras 13.04/80.1-7

Ayanamsa 24-17-29

Balance in Moon period at birth Yrs 2 months 4 days 20.

IX 26·22-47

Ketll.J 26·43·57

VIII 25·22·47

Vll27·2·56 Moon

20-8·57

\A'ZT·22·47 Saturn(R) 23-3).57 Jup{A) 9·9·1

Mars t-25·57

X 28·22·47

Ve27-t6·23 Xl28·22·47

SU'l 28·52· 12


v 28·22·47

IV 28-22-47

Mercury 22-'j{-57

XII 27-22·47

I 27·2·56

1125·22-47 AallJ

26·43·57

Ill 26-22-47

L-.---"'---·-·-·----·~---------...&.......------1


Sun Saturn Venus Jupiter Moon Kethu Saturn Saturn

Mars Venus Rahu Sun

Mercury Saturn Kethu Venus Jupiter Rahu

The girl got married in Saturn bukthi in Rahu Anthra on 2-2-92.

This I discussed on page 2 of +<P & Astrology November 1992 issue.


The bukthi of Saturn ended on 3-7-1992 & Mercury bukthi started to run upto 8-10-94.

Let us discuss Mercury & its signfications.

Mercury is in XI & no planets in its stars and so it signifies XI fully.

As it owns Ill & XII it gets the signification of Ill & XII also fully.

Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in V & so V also Jupiter owns VI & IX. As Moon is in VI and Mars in IX. Mercury cannot signify VI&IX.

Summing up Mercury signifies XI, Ill, V & XII fully. This is steller significations.

Except XII, the significator does not indicate anything bad maritally. As per this signification XI, Ill & V nothing was happen bad martially.

But she is now a Divorced girl since last month (March/April '93) How?

Look into the sub lord of Mercury. It is Saturn.

Saturn is in V in the star of Venus in X, owning IV & XI. Sun is in XI & No planet in in IV.

So thro Sub lord Mercury attain the full signification of X & IV both detriment for marital matters.

The bad matters happened in Venus Anthra 16-12-92 to 2-5-93. Venus owns IV & XI. Has planets in XI & no planet in IV. Venus is in X. There are planets in Venus star.

So look in to its star lord. It is Mars placed in IX. So Venus is a sole significator of IX. Venus is in the sub of Jupiter in V. owning VI & IX. Mercury is in Jupiter star, and so Jupiter does not signify V at all. Jupiter is in the star of Kethu in VIII. So Venus finally gets Vlllth signification, a detriment for Kutumbham & so separated from her Husband's Kudumbham during this Anthra ·of Venus.

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Now 1 take up an interesting birth chart of a girl born on 20-11-1969 at 12.45 Noon 1ST at Gooty 15.7/77.41

Ayanamsa 23-25-1

Balance in Mercury period years 12 months 4 days 9. The birth chart is as under

Sa tum Moen 10·19-47

IV v 20·18·27 Ill 16·39

14·19 10-39 II 13·39 Jupiter

18·44·37

Rahu VI ; 244-5 6-39 I 7-52-15 . ....

Nirayana Bhava

Mars Chakram

VII 17-51·11 7-52-15

XII Kettu 6-39 244-5 .

X 14·39 Venus XI Me6·40·41 18·57·59 VIII

10·39 $1.1) IX 16-39 13·39

4-23·25 I

• • •• Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Moon .. Moon Vensus Saturn Saturn Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury Mercury Mercury Kethu Mercury Jupiter Rahu

. This girl was married to a particular boy in Venus penod & Venus .bukthi, in the 1st week of November '92, in the Anthra of · Saturn (May '92 to Dec. '92)

What does Venus signify?

Ve.nus is in the star of Rahu in lagna and it is in the sub of Moon in II, placed is the star of Mercury in IX owning V & VIII.


The Anthra lord Saturn is in II in the star of Ketu in VII, & as Saturn is in its own sub, again signifies VII.

So the marriage took place in this Anthra itself and it is stated or rumoured that the same was celebrated under duress to cover up the illegal matters of the mother of the girl.

Let us discuss from the Horoscope of the girl if the period now running has any indications of such a po!ition regarding mother.

Let me see it Venus portray such matters in this of IV th cusp, (IV is the lagna for mother of the girl).

In term of IV th cusp Venus is in VI owning I & is placed in the star of Rahu in X stellar significations does not tell any scandalous matter at all.

Look in to the Sublord of Venus. It is Moon in XI & it is placed in the star of Mercury owning II & V. This tells some love mat~ers of the mother of the girl.

It is rumoured that she was involved in such matters with the son-in-law itself, who was already her nearest relative.

Let us check up if her lagna cusp & Sublord portray such · things as incest from the girl's chart (lvth cusp).

IVth cusp falls in Taurus 14.39 ruled by Jupiter as sub lord. Jupiter is in the star of Venus in Libra & in the sub of Rahu in Aquarius of Saturn duly placed in the star of Jupiter in XII, Aries of Mars.

If lagna cusp is badly connected to Venus, Mars and Saturn in some way or other such natives are to prove such amourous love matters with the nearest blood relatives.

So IV th cusp Sublord which stands for mother substantially such activities of the mother.

As already stated that the mother had illicit connection, with her son-in-law, then we have to discuss if the VII th cusp that

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stands for husband of the girl, has such bad combinations for such activities as incest.

VII th cusp to be discussed taking the same as lagna of the boy the husband of the girl.

The sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is in Aries of Mars. Jupiter is in the star of Venus in Libra. And Jupiter is in the sub of Rahu in Aquarius of Saturn and placed in the star of Jupiter in Aries of Mars.

Here also the lagna is polluted by the combination & involvement of the 3 planets in Venus, Saturn & Mars telling INCESTUOUS nature of the son-in-law.

Good Luck

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This time I take up the birth chart of a boy for discussion who had died falling in water.

He was born on 28-10-82 at 1.40 p.m. 1ST at Chennai 13.04/ 80.17

Ayanamsa 23-35-54.

RahJ Ill IV v 13-41·9

28-55-5 28-55·5 25-25·5 VI 21-55-5

II 24-44-C6 VII

Mooo Nirayana Bhava 20·3-11 18-07-55 Chakram

balanoo in Rahu period

I 2y • 3m - 4days VIII 20-3-11 24-55-C6

X121·55-5 X 28-55-5 Mercury Ju23-43·12 Ke13-41 ·9 XI

Sn10·57-1 27-2-22 Mars 25·5-5 IX

3-41-58 Ve9-14-4 28-55-5 Sa2-42-37.


Sun · Saturn Venus Jupiter Moon Moon Saturn Venus Mars Moon Rahu Mercury Mercury Jupiter Kethu Venus Jupiter Saturn

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Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Kethu \Ill Venus I Mercury \1111 Mercury Ill Saturn IX Saturn w Mars X Sun v Rahu XI Rahu VI Saturn XII Saturn

With the above birth chart & working. Mr. Velayudamurthy, a KP student entered my room when Mohan was also present. Mr. Murthy came with a testing mind, & duly handling over the birth chart, posted the question as under I

What should have happened in Venus bukthi, in Jupiter major period for this boy?

As the query was challenging Mr. Mohan took it from my hand, and discussed the bu.kthi of Venus in Jupiter period.

Jupiter in IX in its own star & so signifies IX, XII & Ill. Jupiter is in the sub of Saturn owning II & placed in the star of Mars in XI owning XI. (No planet Saturn star & 2"d house also).

So this period portrends seriousness in the way of accidents & dealing with life.

Bukthi of Venus from 14-12-1992 to 14-8-1995

Venus is in IX in the star of Rahu, in V in its own star and so Rahu represents Mercury, a full significator of XI, having been placed in the star of Mars .in XI, owning XI Bhadhaka for Makara lagnam. He also assessed the strength of the sub lord of the Lagna cusp. It is Kethu.

Kethu is in XI in the star of Venus in IX Kethu is in the sub of Venus, placed in the starof Rahu. who represents Mercury a full significator of Bhadaka athana also.


So he assessed the boy's longevity should be below 32 yrs (Aipayush) and also added that the boy should have been involved in an accident and succumbed to it.

Mr. Murthy accepted, with all appreciation of how padhdhati is so thought provoking when we apply Sublord of strength for assessment.

He said that the boy dies in water on 2-5-93.

Reverting back let me explain how the boy had died under accident in water.

One has to look into the VIII th cusp to findout one's way of death.

Here in this birth chart, the Sublord of the Vlllth cusp is Mercury.

Mercury is in VIII & no planet in its stars. Mercury signifies 811'

& 61h fully.

Mercury is in the star of Mars in XI, owning IV.

But in the ·sub of Jupiter -in IX in its own star & so IX & XII.

So Vll lth cusp sub lord having VIII under stellar status & XII !Jnder Sublord signification tells an accidental death, as here the combination of IV, VIII & XII (IV TRIGON) comes into force.

As the Sublord Jupiter owns Sagittary & Pisces having some planets in Dhanus & no planet in Pisces. Pisces the Watery sign acted and the boy died in Water.

Now I like to discuss the birth chart of Vineets Mehta of Mehsana (N. Gujarat) to substantiate how Sublord has a better say in Predictive side.

Born on 27-4-65 at 1.58 p.m 1ST at Jodhpur 26.18/73.4

Ayanamsa 23-21-40

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Sun Venus Venus mars

Moon Saturn Saturn Jupiter

Mars Sun Rahu Venus

Mercury Venus Kathu Moon

Jupiter Kethu

Horoscope is as under :

Mer19·30·9 IX 2-4-42 X 4-4-42

SlJ"l Ju 7-42-16 XI VIII

13-30·9 Raru 6-4-42 2-4-42

Ve17-17-26 22-27-26

MoCJ'I 22-27-27 XII

Sa 20-54-16 Nirayana Bhava 7-4-42 VIIS-44-4 Chakram

balanoo in Jupiter period

I 5-44-4 VI 13y- Om - 18days Mars

7-4-42 15-42-6

v Kettu Il l II 6-4-42

22-27-16 2-4-42 2-4-42 IV 4-4-42

The native is now running the Major period of Saturn from

May '78 to May '97.

Saturn is in VII & no planet in its star & so it signifies VII & VI and it is placed in the star of Jupiter placed in X.

So finally it signifies VII, VI, X. This is stellar signification.

Saturn is in the sub of Jupiter again & so signifies IX fully.

So matters of VII, VI & X are controlled by the IXth signification.

For VII, IX acts very well & allows the native to get in to marital fold & higher educational prospects.


For VI, IX acts not so well & tells breat in service. As VI regards one's illness & defect in health & being connected to IX. Here IX th cusp falls in Aries, which stands for head. So the native has severe head ache too often in Saturn period.

For X, IX tells many a change in preofessional sphere.

This is the assessment regarding Saturn, generally interms of significations.

Let us discuss some important incidents in this period.

The native passed BE (CIVIL) during March 1987.

It was then Venus bukthi, Saturn period, Venus is in its own star in IX owning Ill & X.

There are planets in Venus star and X. So finally Venus signifies IX & II only.

IX & Ill does not tell any success, but only higher education. But she got thro in Exam.

Now look into Sub lord of Venus. It is Mars. Mars in Lagna & no planetin its star and so, fully signifies I & IV (Feebly). So Venus gets lagna signifiation & so success in exam.

First service the native entered during December '87. It was the Venus Bukthi again, Mercury Anthra.

Venus signifies IX fully along with Ill & X feebly.

Being in the sub of Ma~s. lagna and IV signification.

The Anthra lord Mercury signifies II & XI fully alongwith VIII. Mercury is in the sub of Venus and so signifies IX & Ill & X feebly. The feebly Xth signification has given the native service.

During Sun bukthi (2-5-88 to 14-4-89) there was a change in Job to Public sector during January '89.

Sun is a full significator of IX & Ill & X feebly.

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Sun is in the sub of Venus and so again IX & Ill & X feebly.

So in terms of IX the change over completely to Public sector in terms of IX th signification.

Got engaged on 5-1 -92. Then it was the bukthi of Rahu and Anthra of Jupiter, Discuss Rahu.

Rahu is in X in the star of Moon In VII. And Rahu is the sub of . Venus signifies IX & Ill.

So Rahu should give the native marriage itself in its bukthi

along with betrothal (IX & Ill).

The engagement taken place on 5-10-92 when it was Jupiter Anthra.

Jupiter is in X the star of Sun and Sun in IX. And Jupiter is in the sub of Kethu in IV in Mars Rasi and so fully represents Mars a full significator of IX & Ill. So engagement in Jupiter Anthra. · There is a query from the native regarding marriage day.

Then 1 discussed Saturn Anthra from 13-10-92 to 26-3-83.

Saturn is in the star of Jupiter in X & in the sub of Jupiter duly signifiying IX only. Then Mercury Anthra from 26-3-93 to 21-8-93.

Mercury is in VIII and so fully signifies VIII, II & XI but thro sub lord Venus, signifies IX & 111 only.

Then ~..ames Kethu anthra from 31-8-93 to 21-10-93. Kethu sin the star of Mercury and so signifies VIII & II, XI and thro sub lord Moonsignifies VII feebly and X, V fully.

Marriage should take place in this Anthra preferably in Sookshama of Moon in lind week of September 1993.

1 take up one more birth chart for discussion, that of Mr. Ranganathan (Retd.) Railway officer as CPO.

Borr. on 27-11-1929 at 4.30 a.m. 1ST at Bangalore 12.58/ 77.37


Ayanamsa 22-51-31.


Sun Moon Venus Mercury Moon Venus Saturn Rahu Mars Rahu Rahu Mars Mercury Moon Kethu Sun Jupiter Mercury

Mr. Ranganathan retired as Chief personal officer, SRY during the fag and 1987, after the completion of his 58 yrs of age without blemish.

VII VIII VI 14-12-5 13·45·42 IX

15-45-42 Ratu Jup(R) 12-45-42 17-56-6 19-25-49

v X 13-45-42 Nirayana Bhava 12-45-42

Chakram balance in Moon

period IV Oy - 9m - 23days XI

12-45-42 13-45-42

Ill 12-45-42 II 13·45·42 Ve24-10-52 XII

Sa tum Ms 13-11-39 Ke17-56-6 15·45-42

6-47-14 Su11·21·59 114-12-5 moen

Mer11+34 22-15·2

Let us discuss some important incidents.

He passed out his B.E. exam during 1954, in the bukthi of Mars. in the major period of Rahu.

Discuss Rahu, It is in VII in the star of Venus in Lagna owning lagna and in the sub of Mars a full significator of II & IV. So Rahu was a successful period and he had successful education.

Mars is in I no planet in its star and so signifies I. Mars is in · the star of Satur in II and so signifies I, II & IV. Mars is in the sub

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of Rahu a full ~ignificator of Lagna. So he successfully passed and obtained B.E. degree in this bukthi.

Then the major period of Jupiter started 20-9-1955 for 16 years.

Jupiter is in VIII and there are planets in its star and so it is not VIII th significator.

Jupiter is in the star of Moon in XII owns X and so signified XII &X fully.

Jupiter is in the sub of Mercury and so signifies lagna and IX as there are planets in Mercury stars.

Mercury is in the star of Saturn in II & so II fully.

Jupiter Bukthi is from 20-9-55 to 8-11-57. As Jupiter has lagna IX & II signification, he got first service during January 1956 and then leaving this got into service in CPWD by April '56 and subsequently changed his service over to Aerodrome. Asst. Engineer, By March 1957 in terms of IX & II signification.

By 8-11-57, Saturn bukthi started, Saturn is in II in the star of Kethu in Lagna and in the sub of Rahu duly signifying I, II.

In this bukthi he got Railway servie and took over as Asst. Engineer on 9-12-57 which continued til( his retirement.

He got married on 10 .. 1-1963. It was then Kethu bukthi in Jupiter period.

As already noted, Jupiterthro its sub lord Mercury signifies II & V, as Mercury is in the star of Satur in II owning V.

Kethu is in Lagna, in the star of Rahu in VII, and so fully signifies VII and Kethu being in the sub of Sun and so signifies I & XI, II, V. So in this Kethu bukthi there is a good combination of II·, V, X & VII required for marriage and so marriage celebrated in this bukthi.


Then he got children, a Son on 6-1-64, daughter on 8-8-65. It was then running the bukthi of Venus from 2-8-63 to 2-4-66.

Discuss Venus.

Venus is in lagna. owning lagna.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in VIII , owning Ill & VI.

So no signfication for the birth of children as II, Vor XI, Vor at least V. Then How?

Now look into the Sublord, It is Mercury, No planet in Mercury star and is in lagna. So I & IX.

Mercury is in the star of Saturn in II owning V.

So Venus gets I, IX, II & V thro Sublord Mercury, required for birth of children.

The native was elevated highest status as Chief Personal officer during 1983, when he was running Moon bukthi from August '82 to May '84.

Moon is in XII in its own star and so full significator of XII. As it owns X and no planet therein, signifies X also. So matter of promotion is there and XII with a change of place.

But promotion did come without change of place. It was a matter of prestige for Ranganathan to be in Chennai itself and he contacted me to know if there will be a change of place, as there in XII.

I told him that he would not be disturbed as Moon is in the sub of Venus in Lagna, signifiying VI & VII. Lagna and VIII does not tell change o(environment.

He was promoted and posted in the same place as desired.

He retired from his service as CPO IS .Rl Y during November '87 without any blemish what so ever, as in the case of other officers who held such responsible and lucrative posts.

It was Rahu bukthi in Saturn period.

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Rahu is in VII, in the star of Venus in Lagna owning lagna. As Node Rahu represents Mars in lagna and no planet in Mars star. So Rahu fully signifies lagna and so prestige not lost.

And it is well confirmed by Rahu being in the sub of Mars and so angain lagna signification as no planet in Mars stars and further Mars is in the star of Saturn in II owning V.

Lagna V got him retirement, II & I protected his status as a decent officer.

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I have run enough on this subject & I feel the students must have understood well that sub lord alone finalises the matter either way the matters shown by the star lord of a planet.

And this also applies to the planet who happens to be the Sublord of a cusp in the Natel or Horary chart.

Now I take up the Horoscope of Miss. Charulatha, born on 25-10-1969 at 10.20 p.m.IST at Chennai 13.04/80.17.

Ayanamsa 23-25-1

Planet .. Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Saturn Mars Rahu Saturn Mercury Moon Mercury Rahu Mercury Mercury Rahu Kethu Mercury Jupiter Jupiter

Saurn(R) X 12-18-29 XII I

13-52 Mn12-45-11 18-52 17-53-18 XI 16-52

Rat-t.l II 25-25-53 Nirayana Bhava 13-52 IX 11-52

Chakram balance in Ketu

period Ill 11-52 VIII Oy- 3m - 20days

13-52 Ketu 25-25-53

Mars v 16-52 IV 13-52 29-26-19 VI

SU"' Ve16-48-53 VII 18-52

8-40-59 Me 25-3-1

17-53-18 · Ju 26-25-24

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·The native had comeout successful in her BE Exam & declares as such during April/ May '90 and joined service as Engineer in a reputed firm in New Delhi on 1-7-1992.

Let us discuss the period how it aids the native to be successful in graduating herself & get in to lucrative service so young as now.

She is now running the major period of Sun from 15-2-1990 to 15-2-1996. Sun is in IV & is tenanting the star of Rahu in IX. Both significations do not promise material prospects. Virtually IV & IX does not promise any profession at all.

She passed out Be during April I May 1990 and got into lucreation service 1-7-92 in Sun period itself.

How is it?

Look into the sub lord ofSun.

It is Jupiter & it is placed _in the star of Mars in VII owning VI & XI (No planet in VI & XI).

So this period has power to give her fine material advancement in terms of VI & XI & marital happiness also in t~rms of VII.

Sun bukth i was between 15-2-90 & 3-6-90 & she get BE degree then in terms of signification IV & IX becoming XI.

On 1-7-92 it was Jupiter bukthi from 3-3-92 to 21-12-92.

Jupiter is in IV in the star of Mars in VII, owning VI & XI & it is in its own sub & so again VII, VI & XI. It is a fine period to fix her in a lucreative service in New Delhi.

The native's parents consulted me about her marriage, then it was Saturn bukthi in Sun major period.

I discussed Saturn.

Saturn in X & no planet in its stars and so fully signfies X & VIII.


Saturn in the sub of Mercury in IV (No planet in Mercury sta'r) & so fully signifies IV & I. Mercury is in the star of Mars in VII owning VI & XI. So there is a combination of XI & VII & it can bring about marriage & VI tells impediments.

I fixed the marriage to come up in the anthra of Jupiter is between 17-10-93 to 3-12-93.

Let us take up the Horoscope of Smt. Devi born on 27-10-52 at 11.23 a.m. at Salem 11 .39/78.12.

Ayanamsa 23-10-47

The horoscope is under :

IV 0-34 J~..piter(R) VI VII 24-21-13 26-34 22-24-56 v 29-34

Ill Ketll.l

27-34 Nirayana Bhava 24-22-13

Chakram VIII 24-34

balanre in Mars Mooo

24-42-40 period

11 24-34 6y- 3m - 9days IX 27-34 Aall.l

24-22-13

I 22-24-56 XII 26-34 Xl29-34

Mars Ve12-59-13 Slll Sa tum 17-42-2 Mercury 10-34-58 26-43-13

0-6-37 X0-34

--·--·-- -~-- --Planet . Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Rahu Moon Rahu Saturn Jupiter Mars Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury Moon Kethu Kethu Jupiter Mercury

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Smt. Devi came for consultation regarding her matrimonial life, which she said was so horrible & has a mind now to leave her husband's house & live separately. That is her status of mind now, matrimonially.

I worked out the horoscope & I arrived at the Saturn period to be from 6-2-1993. I discussed the planet Saturn.

Saturn is in IX owning II & Ill. There are planets in Saturn

stars.

Sun is in the star of Mars in XII owning IV, V & XII (Jupiter in IV & Mars in XII} So Saturn signifies XII & V.

V is encouraging & XII is a detriment for marital matters.

Further I looked into the Sublord of Saturn. It is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in IV & Mercury is in Jupiter star.

Juipter is in the star of Venus in XI owning VI. X, XI (Mercury & Venus in XI end Sun in X) So Juipter signifies XI & VI fully.

So the major period lord Saturn signifies XI & VI thro sub

lord.

Hence the stellar signification of XII is toned down by XI & at the same time agravated by VI.

Though the period is _very good materially it is mixed one

martially.

So I told her that she will have pin pricks, but she can stand it & no trouble to the point of break down and comparitively better than the period of Jupiter.!

She got satisfied & went away.

Before leaving my room, she narrated her suffering at the hands of her husband. But no break in the marital life upto, now.

For the sake of students let us discuss Jupiter and its significations.


Jupiter is in IV (There is Mercury in Jupiter star) so Jupiter is not a IV th significator.

Jupiter is in the star of Venus in XI , owning VI, X, & XI (Sun is in X) So Jupiter signifies XI & VI fully. This pla9ed her in a very good material back ground. But marital life is so horrible. Why? Now look into the sub lord of Jupiter, the period lord.

Jupiter is in the sub of.Mercury in XI. (Rahu in Mercury star) So Mercury does not signify XI at all. Mercury is placed in the star of Jupiter in IV.

So Jupiter fully signifies IV, & IV is a detriment for smooth married life. Let us have a overall view of the planets signification.

Steller Signification

I,X II, VIII, XII & V XI&VI IV XI&VI IX&III XII & V XII & V VII &XI

Planet

Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter Venu Saturn Rahu Kethu

Signification thro Sub

XII & V XII & V XI&VI II, VIII, XII & V

XII&V XI&VI XII&V XII& V

From the above the student shall note that every planet has detriment signification of either XII or VI or IV. This itself tell, not a smooth sail in marital life.

Further I take up the Horoscope of Mr. Ramesh Babu born on 9/10-4-1963 at 3.30 a.m.IST. At Chennai13-64/90-17.

Ayanamsa 23-19-59

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Sun Rahu Venus Mars Moon Moon Saturn Jupiter Mars Jupiter Rahu Rahu Mercury Rahu Kethu Jupiter Jupiter Kethu

Sn26-<l-6 Mercury 1116-3-46 IV v

Jupiter 6-40-1

16-3-46 12-3-46 B-2-51

11118-3-46

Vmus. Rah.J

2-6-16 19·38·1 Nirayana Bhava Vl9-3-46

I 1 0-4·13 Ms15-12-1 Chakram balance in Mars

Sa tum period 27·2B-~

Oy - 6m • 21 days VII Xll9-3·46 10-4-13

Keth.J 2-6-16

XI X IX 18·3·~ · VIII 12-3·46 16·3·46

MOO'\ 16-3·46 5-36-1

Mr. Ramesh Babu is marine engineer and he had successful education, got in to service and maintains a good financial status from 1981 onwards.

Let us examine the major period he is running from 1981, It is the period of Jupiterfrom 1-11-1981 and it is upto 1-11-1987.

Discuss the significations of Jupiter.

Jupiter is in Lagna and own II & XI. There is Rahu in Jupiter star. Punarpoosam, So Jupiter cannot signify I, II & XI.

Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in XII owning I & XII. As Jupiter is in Lagna and as Rahu is in Jupiter star, Juipter signify XII alone.

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Hence one is liable to question, how the boy got successful education in Engineering and got into service as Marine Engineer and enjoying lucrative service with good emoluments.

Nowlook into the sub lord of Jupiter.

It i5 Kethu.

Kethu is in XI , placed in the star of Sun in II.

So Jupiter thro its sub lord Kethu gets the benefic signification of II fully XI feebly, along with VII.

Hence the period got him all these beneficial matters.

But it was stated by the mother of the boy tpat marriage was settled and betrothel done during June '91 and broken soon after.

Then it was Venus bukthi.

Let us discuss how Venus has given him such a state of affair.

Venus is in lagna and no planet in its stars. So Venus fully signifies I, IV & IX & V.

Venus is in the star of Rahu in V. So fully signifies I, IV, V & IX. As the Sub!ord of Venus being Mars, duly signifying XII , having been placed in the star of Saturn in XII, all these matters of I, IV, V & IX for bringing about betrothal has been broken soon after, in terms or the sub iords signification XII, brings him agonizing situation and fall in Saturn, socially.

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Now, I take up the Horoscope of Sri Udayavarlu, a Gold merchant and decent citizen of Chennai.

He was born on 6/7-4-1933 at 3-56 a.m. 1ST at Tirupathi 13-40/79-20.

Balance in Kethu period at birth : Yrs 3, m 5; days 18.


Sun Rahu Venus Venus Moon Rahu Saturn Venus Mars Jupiter Rahu Mercury Mercury Rahu Kethu Mercury Jupiter Saturn

Venus 19·56-44 Ill IV v

11118-9-49 20-9·48 18·9·48 14-9-48

Sn13·44-47 Mer2·46·38

As 13·57·31 VI

Ratu 11·9· 48 12· 54-s:> ~irayana Bhava

Chakram balance in Ketu Mr6-31-10

Sa tum period at birth Mars(R) 8-6-24

21·29-52 3y- 6m - 18days Ke12·54· 50 XII Vll 13·57-3 11 ·9·48 Jl.J)iler(R)

22·2·32

XI X IX VII I 14·9·48 18·9·48 20·9·48 . 18·9·48

.. _ ......

The native of this Horoscope is rather a man of financial status and continues to be so even on date.


Some bad incidents had taken place during his mars period Venus bukthi, which should not have happened for such a good soul, as I know him personally. It is fate and it is explained here under.

He was running the major period of Mars from 4-11-1972 to 4-11-1979.

Mars is in VI & no planet in its star & so he fully signifies Ill, VI &X.

Mars is in the star of Kethu in VI & so again VI. These are very good matters, what Mars has to give. Mars is in the sub of Jupiter in VII, in the star of Venus in II, owning IV & IX.

Matters like Ill, VI, X which are regulated by the sub lord under signification of II, necessarily give high income & roaring business life.

And it did give.

But the same stellar signification of Ill, VI & X, when regulated by the sub lords signification of IV & IX, tells some fishy matters also to happen to his business life and reputation.

IX tells some disturbances and shortage of professionall~fe and IV some censure like matters, connected to occupation way of life.

It is to happen in general in Mars period.

Matters went on very well in the bukthi of Mars, Rahu and Jupiter which run upto 7 -2 .. 1975.

Saturn bukthi started by 7-2-1975 & it run upto 16-3-76.

During this bukthi, there was suddenly a Police raid in his Jewellery shop and h~ was arrested and taken to custody under suspicious of theft Articles being displayed by him in his show room.

How it happened in ths bukthi.

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I have already explained dispute the fact, Mars (Major period lord) signifying very good house II, he has other disturbing houses also such as IV & IX. This is over all effect in Mars Period.

Partie. <:)rly in this bukthi of Saturn, matters have become very bad.

Why?

Saturn is XII (Sun is in Saturn) in the star of Moon in VI. This is OK. VI cannot bring him anything serious matter at all.

Look into the sub lord. It is Venus. Venus is in II (there is Jupiter in its star) and Venus is placed in the star of mercury owning V & VIII. So Saturn gets V & VII thro sub lord and there is a serious jolt for him and as Venus in the star of Mercury in Lagna, saved him in time he was released immediately after.

But there was criminal case between him and Government and it went on for years.

Finally judgement in Supreme Court was given adversely during October 1992 & he was Jailed.

Why in 1 &92. It was then in his major period of Rahu (from 4-11-1979 to 4-11-1990) Rahu is in its own star in XII & so full significator of XII, is adverse.

Rahu is in the sub of Mercury, placed in the star of Jupiter in VII, owning II & XI (Venus Ill) so signifies VII & XI.

So stellar signification of XII, results in terms of VII & VI. XI is good & VII is adverse & defeat for self.

There is the major period of Rahu with such a signification, already explained.

The matter of Judgement delivered adversely during October '92.

·It was then Venus Bukthi (from 22-5-91 to 22-5-94)


Venus is in II (there are planets in Venus stars) Venus is in the star of Mercury in I owning V & VIII (No planets in V & VIII).

Venus is in the sub of its own and so again I, V & VIII.

Stellar signification fo V & VIII has afflicted his status as Thro sub also it signified V & VIII detrimentally.

He was jailed during October '92 and within a short period he was released on Political reasons. Lagna signification thro sub wonderfully worked out for this release.

NoW I take up a Horary for discussion as I had to workout for an intricate querry raised by a leading Doctor of my locality.

At 11-30 a.m. on 3-8-93 the Doctor entered my room and raised me intricate query duly giving No.196 (1-249)

Ayanamsa 23-45-7

His query was as follows 'Let me know the cause of silence of my wife'.

I made the horary figure for the sub over time as under.


Sun Mercury Venus Rahu Moon Rahu Saturn Venus Mars Rahu Rahu Jupiter Mercury Venus Kethu Jupiter Juipter Saturn

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Mars VII Moon I Venus VIII Venus Ill Venus IX Mercury IV Jupiter X Jupiter V Saturn XI Mercury VI Mercury XII Venus

I I

I I

J

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Kethu Venus

Ill IV 7-45-2 19-30-6 20-30-6

15-19-53 Vl 13-30-6 v 17-30-6 Me27-58-8

1115-30-6 VII

11-6-40 Saturn(R) Slll 4·25-53 17-10-8

Nirayana Horary Chart

Mooo 25-30-8 VIII

I 15-30-6 11-6-40

Mars

XII Xl17-30-6 X

0-46-8

13-30-6 Rahu 20-30-6

Jupiter 15-19-53 16-21-8

IX 19-30-6

As the matter queried • pertain to his wife, Vllth cusp should be taken, as Lagna & discussed.

Let us see what her lagna cusp says, lagna cusp is ruled by Moon as sub lord. Moon is in VII, in the star of mars in VIII & so signifies VIII, XI & VI. The same Moon is in the sub of Rahu in X. in the star of Saturn in I.

So Lagna cusp reveals, that Matter is pertaining to VIII (II from VII) mainly. So it is purely with in the Kutumbam & thro Sublord Rahu, it is broadly connected to X (IV from VIII) & lagna (VII from VII) So it is matter something reactionary one with one of the Domestic members.

Let us discuss Vlllth from VII to find out the source of Agony she suffers, in a broader out line VIII th (II nd) cusp Sublord is Venus. Venus is in the star of Rahu in X (IV) & in the sub of Rahu in X (IV) placed in the star of Saturn in I (VII).

So VII, antagonistic situation formed between her & mother How?


The Sublord of the VIII th Venus thro stellar status points to IV & thro sub lord status points to VII, So IV becomes opposition, IV stands for mother & house hold properties & matters, etc.

Again the silence of wife should be elucidated. For that you must give more credence to XII th cusp. Here from VII th the XII this VI th. (XII) VI th cusp sub lord is Mercury.

Mercury is in VI (XII) in the star of Jupiter in VIII (II) so Mercury points to XII & II Mercury is in the sub of Venus.

Venus is in the star of Rahu in X (IV)

So the agonizing situation arises with the differences ith her mother (IV)

The Dr. has given the no & no lagna cusp sub lord also deserves discussion.

Lagna cusp sub lord is Mars.

Mars is in VIII, in the star of Sun in VII.

Mars is in the sub of Rahu placed in the star of Saturn in Lagna itself.

So the query of Dr. well corroborates the query about his . · wife VII & he will have full control of the situation (I)

I told Doctor that his wife is agonizingly silent as a result of diff~rerices with her mother, perhaps connected to some Household matters.

The next day he came that he was able to findout with difficulty the cause of her silence and that well corroborates

·with my finding thro Horary & duly appreciating me, he went away.

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