STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 132nd Legislative Day June l4, 1994 I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senate will come to order. This Session is perfunctory. Committee Reports. SECRETARY HARRY: Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees: Referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation - motions to concur with Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1260, and House Amendments l and 4 to Senate Bill 12677 to I the Committee on Education - the motlon to concur with House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1324) to the Commlttee on Environment and Energy - motions to concur with House Anendment 3 to Senate Bill 230, House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 630, House Amendment 6 to Senate Bi1l 1172, and House Amendments l and 3 to Senate Bill 1326; to the Committee on Executive - the motion to ccncur with House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bl1l 1380 -- or 1318 that is; to the Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities - motions to concur with House Amendments 5 and 6 to Senate Bill 1328, House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1329, House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1448, House Amendments l and 2 to Senate 3i11 1479, House Amendment 6 to Senate Bill 1558, and House Amendment 5 to Senate Bill 16207 to the Committee on Judiciary - the motion to concur with House Amendments l and 7 to Senate Bill 1357; to the Local Government and Elections Committee - the motion to concur with House Amendment l to Senate Bl11 1302: to the Committee on Revenue - motions ko concur With House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1191, House Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 1336, and House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 16917 and to the Committee on Transpcrtation - the motions to concur wkth House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1200, and House Amendments 3 and 4 to Senate Bill 1730. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) I I l
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STATE OF ILLINOIS88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
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IPRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senate will come to order. This Session is perfunctory.
Committee Reports.
SECRETARY HARRY:
Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rules, reports that
the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to
committees: Referred to the Committee on Agriculture and
Conservation - motions to concur with Amendment No. l to Senate
Bill 1260, and House Amendments l and 4 to Senate Bill 12677 to I
the Committee on Education - the motlon to concur with House
Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1324) to the Commlttee on Environment
and Energy - motions to concur with House Anendment 3 to Senate
Bill 230, House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 630, House Amendment
6 to Senate Bi1l 1172, and House Amendments l and 3 to Senate Bill
1326; to the Committee on Executive - the motion to ccncur with
House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bl1l 1380 -- or 1318 that is;
to the Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities -
motions to concur with House Amendments 5 and 6 to Senate Bill
1328, House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1329, House
Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1448, House Amendments l and 2 to
Senate 3i11 1479, House Amendment 6 to Senate Bill 1558, and House
Amendment 5 to Senate Bill 16207 to the Committee on Judiciary -
the motion to concur with House Amendments l and 7 to Senate Bill
1357; to the Local Government and Elections Committee - the motion
to concur with House Amendment l to Senate Bl11 1302: to the
Committee on Revenue - motions ko concur With House Amendment 1 to
Senate Bill 1191, House Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 1336,
and House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 16917 and to the
Committee on Transpcrtation - the motions to concur wkth House
Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1200, and House Amendments 3 and
4 to Senate Bill 1730.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) I
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If there ' s no f urther business , Senate -- the Senate will
reconvene in regular Session at noon .
. ( SENATE STANDS IN RECESS)
( SENATE RZCONVENES )
PRESIDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
The Senate will come to order . Will the Members please be at
their desks , and w1l1 our guests in the gallery please r ise . Our
prayer today will be given by the Reverend Gordon McLean , Pi rst
Presbyterian Church of Springf ield . Reverend McLean .
THE REVEREND GORDON MCLEAN :
( Prayer by the Reverend Gordon McLean )
PRES IDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
Readlng of the Journal. Senatcr Butler .
SENATOR BUTLER :
Mr . President , I move that readlng and approval of the
Journals of F'r kday , June lot.h and Monday , June 13th , in *he year
1994 , be postponed , pending ar rlval of the pr inted Journals .
PRESIDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and approval of
the Journal, pending the pr inted copies of the transcript . There
being no objectlon , i t is so ordered . Conlml ttee Reports .
SECRETARY HARRY :
Senator Karpiel , Chair of the Committee on Executive , reports
Senate Resolution 1560 Be Adopted , Senate Resolution 1394 Be
Adopted, as M ended ; House Joint Resolutions 96 and 154 Be
Adoptedz and Senate Joint Resolution 152 Be Adopted .
PRESIDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
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Resolutions.
SECRETARY HARRY:
Senate Resolution 1600, offered by Senators Mahar and Ton
Dunn.
Senate Resolution 1601, by Senators Fawell, Karpiel and I(
Philip.
Senate Resolution 1602, by Senators Smith and Jonesy as is
Senate Resolutlon 1603.
Senator Carroll offers Senate Resolution 1604 -- Senator
Carroll and a11 Members.
Senate Resolution 1605, Senator del Valle.
Senate Resolutions 1606 through 1614 are offered by Senator k
Madlgan.
And Senate Joint Resolution 178, offered by Senators Fawell,
Philip and others.
They're a1l congratulatory and death resolutions, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Consent Calendar. On page 9 of today's Senate Calendar is the
Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrence. The intent of the Chair
is tc proceed to that Order for the purpose of considering motions
to non-concur. So if any Senator wishes to ncn-concur, we'11...
Senator Dudycz on the Floor? Senator Madigan, on Senate Bill 398.
Senator -- Mr. Secretary -- Madam Secretary, read the bill numbers
and the House amendments.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
gouse Amendments l and 3 to Senake Bill 398.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Madigan moves to non-concur in House Amendments No. 1I
and 3. Any discussion? To Senate 3111 398. Senator Madlgan
moves to non-concur. Is there any discussion? All those in
favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion
carries, and the Secretary shall -- shall so inform the House.
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1146, Senator Klemm? Madam Secretaryr read the b111 number and
the House anendments.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
House Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1146.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Any discussion? For what purpose does Senator Cullerton arise?
SENATOR CULLERTON:
Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. would ask for a roll call on
this motion to non-concur. would suggest to the Members that we
should rejece this motion to non-concur and to consider concurring
in thls. This bill is a major crimlnal 1aw bill of the Sesslon.
If we put this bill in a conference committee, it's very possible
that we may not be able to pass the measure. The -- the measure
contains provisions to create a spectak State fundy which be
used to hire police officers in our communities. It also
contains the -- the Safe Neighborhoods bill. And this bill would
include allowing for the strengthening of penaltles in juvenile
justicer child abuse, gang-related offenses, alcohol and drugabuse, and firearm offenses, which are included in that Safe
Nelghbcrhoods provision. It also would provide for the hiring of
six thousand six hundred new police officers in this StaEe. And
therefore, -- I think if we were to non-concur, put this in a
eonference committee, we'd jeopardize the potential for passing
these measures. And as a result, I Would ask for a roll call and
ask people to vote No on the motlon to non-concur.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Further discussion? Senator Klemm.
SENATOR KLEMM:
Well, thank you, Mr. Presldent. This is actually a major
piece of legislation, and -- and what Senator Cullerton has said
is partly correct. However, the provisùons of the
three-hundred-and-eleven-page amendment that's been added has
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never had a hearing, has never had any public lnput ln the Senate.
The two proposals that have been added one is the Police
Protection Enhancement Distributlon Fund - is estimated to cost
the State two hundred million dollars. And the Sace Neighborhoods
b111 is an addltional two hundred million dollars that wetre
talking about. And I think four-hundred-million-dollar potential
impact on the State's budget certainly demands that we have some
hearings. And think by putting lt in a -- or not concurring,
letting this either go backr and if -- if it must be, to go to a
canference conmittee, would at least allow the public scrutinyr
allow Members of the Senate and the House to work together ta see
if they can resclve i*. I mlght add that these two provisions
have been added just about on every Senate bill and House bill
that's been coming over here. So this is -- including Democrat
provfsions of bills. So really not scmething that is unique
to this legislatlon. So I do ask for your support to non-concur
with Senate Amendment House Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 1146.
FRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Stern.
SENATOR STERN:
I Would like to second Senator Cullerton's notion for a roll
call vote, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Jones.
SENATOR JONES:
Xeah. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate.
too rise in opposition to the Gentleman's motion. You know, l've
been bombarded week in Chicago watching the media talking
about crime - who's soft on crine. Here We have an oppcrtunity ko
really do something about the problem of crime, but I -- I noticed
those TV commercials don't say anything about -- about crime. It
doesn't say anything about what you got to pay for persons serving
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prisons. And now al1 of a sudden we have a bill to come
along to deal with the real problem, and we want tc play this
soft-on-crime bit. This a good -- this is a -- those
amendments are very good amendments. But againr who's playing
games and Who's playlng politics With czime in the State of
Illinois? I see ad after ad after ad talk about criminals not
servlng their time in jail. This bill would do see ad
after ad talklng about who's soft on crime. Is this the
Governor's positionr for you to non-concur in amendments -- who --
when you want criminals to serve their time in jail, and you areopposing that? Let's stcp a11 the hypocrisy as it relate to this
issue. Quit playing politics. You should be concurring in these
amendments, because these are the amendments that the people of
Illinols want. You Want criminals off the street. You Want more
policemen out there to protect the citizens of the State of
Illinois. And I I encourage each Member to oppose this
notion. We really should be voting Yes for it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Fawell.
SENATOR FAWELL:
Question for the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
He indicates he would yield.
SENATOR FAWELL:
Senator Klemm, have you got any fiscal note or anything added
to this bill that could tell us how much this additional police
are goinç to costa Because I have one of these amendments on my
bill, and I understand everybody else has got on their bill.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Klemm.
SENATOR KLEMM:
Well, actually, the only information have, since the sponsor
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did not come and talk to me about this previous to adding thls
amendment r ls approximately two-hundred-million-dollar cost to the
State , at this time .
PRESIDING OPFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
Senator Fawell .
SENATOR FAWELL :
Senator Klemm, do you have any notif icatlon? Has anybody come
to you and explained Where we ' re going to get thi.s two hundred
mi 11 ion dollars ?
PRESIDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
Senator Klemm.
SENATOR KLEMM:
No , not not at a1l . They haven ' t. talked to us . And -- and
it was kind of interesting -- when one of the previous speakers on
the other side were talking about the charades and the ganes We ' re
playing , was interesting that Governor Edgar ' s proposal on --
on doing something about crime is still languishing in the Hcuse
Rules Conmli ttee . I t hasn ' t even been out . So T guess if we ' re
talking about games z it ' s kind of unusual that We ' d be cr i tlcizing
other packages . But , no , I don ' t know . This is an expensive
prcgran . And al1 I 'm asking is that it either have a public
hear ing to get publ te input . It ' s not a matter necessar i1y of
denying that this doesn ' t have some meri t . I just think that at
thls time , without any input by the Senators in the House or
the Senate , knowing what ' s the provision . This is a
three-hundred-and-eleven-page anendment , I nlight add . So think
it calls f or the openness that we ask f or .
PRESIDING OFFICER : ( SENATOR WEAVER )
Senator Severns .
SENATOR SEVERNS :
Thank you , Mr . President . As Senator Jones said , we ' ve a11
seen the statewide ad campaign by the leader of -- of the other
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side, talking about the need to be tough on crime. We have an
opportunity here to allow our actions to match the rhetoric. It's
a good cpportunlty to be serious abcut being tough on crime, and I
Would hope that in this Body We can join in a bipartisan effort tosay that we really mean that we Want to do something to diminish
the threat of crime that ravishes our neighborhoods throughcutIIthis entire Skate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Cullerton, fcr a second tlme. 1
SENATOR CULLERTON: i
Yes. Thank you. Just on a procedural point: I just wanted toi
polnt out to Senator Klemm that if we -- if we don't non-concurr
then the alternative motion would be to concur. And as I
understand the rules, the concurrence motion Would be only after i
this amendment was fully debated in committee. So ke will have a:
hearing. We will have the benefit of testimony before we would
vote on any concurrence motion. And -- and that's merely a :
procedural note, that we have to be reminded at thls time of the
year that thak's what our rules provide. And so there's no fear k
of us sneaking anything through by defeatlng this motion. We'1l i
have plenty of time to debate the concurrence motlon.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Klemm, to close. '
SENATOR KLEKM: :
Wellr I really have no problem. Senator Lapaille's bill has
this provision on. You can certainly argue that at the time.
This is a -- a differenE bill. It's a bill khaE certainly has !
been about indecent solicitation for children. This is an
important le:islative package that we have been fighting for. I q
do think this would be inappropriate to add this at this time, !
When there's another provision that Will be befcre this Chamber.I
And I do ask f or your support to non-concur to this amendment .
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PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) i
Senator Klenm moves to non-concur in House Amendment No. 4 to
Senate Bill 1146. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Al1 those
opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who
wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the record. . On that
question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are 26, l voting Present. The
Senate non-concurs in House Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 1146,
and the Secretary shall so lnforn the House. The Belleville
News-Democrat is requesting permisslon to take photos. Is there
leave? Leave is granted. Senator O'Malleyz on Senate B#ll 1181.
Madam Secretary, read the number and the House amendments.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
House Amendments 1, 2 and 4 to Senate B1l1 1181.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator O'Malleyr to explain the -- the motion.
SENATOR O'MALLEY:
Thank you, Mr. Presldent, Menbers of the Senate. I move to
non-concur in Senate Bill 1181. As it Was originally passed here
in the Senate, it -- the b111 provided for a number of things,
including extending the repayment period for lnterfund loans,
allowing downstate school districts to make lnterfund transfers
between different -- dlfferent funds, authorized districts to
abolish or abate their funds for leasing educational facilities
and transfer any balance in such funds to other funds. House
Amendment No. 1, Which is really the only amendment that's alive
in here, because the other amendments -- 4 deleted No. 2. The ane
that we have to look at is House Amendment No. 1, whlch contains
seventeen different House bills, some of which need some Work. !
And I wauld expect that what We would end up with is a conference E1committee and -- and Work out the problems there.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) j
Is there discussion? If not, Senator O'Malley mcves to I
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non-concur in House Amendments No. 1, 2 and 4 to Senate Bill 1181.
A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have 1
ik. The motion carries, and the Secretary shall so inform the l
House. Senator Geo-Karis, on the Order of Non-concurrence, Senate
1Bill 1251. Madam Secretary, read the number and the House
amendment.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
House Ameadment No. l to Senate Bill 1251.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Geo-Karis.
SENATOR GEO-KARTS:
Mr. President and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, I move
to non-conur in Senate Bill 1251.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Is there discussion? Senator Demuzlo.
SENATOR DEMUZIO:
Well, thank you very nuch, Mr. President and Ladles and
Gentlemen of the Senate. I -- I hope everybody is Listening, as
to what we are, in fact, doing here. The Member has made a notion
to non-conur ën a bill that woutd afford the county sheriffs the
opportunity to operate so-called boot camps. It seems ko ne that
this ts a good concept. Seems to me that this is one that we
ought to really seriously look at. And I think it's one that
ought to remaln on the Calendar so that we, in fact, can seriously
debate thls issue. I would be opposed to sendlnq this to -- to
non-concurring, sending this to some oblivion, it -- it seems to
me. And I thlnk that there are a lot of people who are in this
Chamber that are floating around that are -- really are not
reading these synopses, that are taking these non-concurrence
motions on their -- on their face value. I would rise in
oppositlon to this motion and suggest that you ought to read kt.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
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Is there further discussion? Senator Shadid.
SENATOR SHADID: I
Yes, Mr. Chairman. As a forner sherlff, I don't -- I don't i
understand why you would not allow a sheriff of any county in tbe I
State of Illinois, or the county board, to have a. boot camp, if
they so want to. I -- I would like to ask the sponsor if she
could answer that for me, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Geo-Karts.
SENATOR GEO-KARIS:
Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate, 1611 be
happy to answer you. First of all, I'm in -- I -- I like the
concept of the bill; however, this bill provides for early --
early release, without certaln restrlctions. And what I Want to
do is send the bill back and have them put it in conference, sc We
can correct it and bring it out. I'm nct against the concept.
And, Senator Demuzio, you ought to know me well enough to know
that I'm certainly in favor of the boot camps. I'm certainly in
favor of the sheriffs havin: some opportunlty of worklng these
things, but we've got to clean up the bill. And that's why I'm
asking to non-concur, so that it can go back and put it back in --
in conference committee and -- and straighten it out, because lf
you're gcing to have early release, you have to have some
restrictions. And I certainly am mindful of the public.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Any further discusslon? If not, Sena*or Geo-xaris... Please
turn your llght on senator, when you want recognition. Senator
Shadid.
SENATOR SHADID:
I would like to -- if you Wculd read Where it says early
release, in that amendment.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) iI
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Senator Geo-Karis.
SENATOR GEO-KARIS:
. ..lmicrophone cutoffl...the time in the program commutes I
their sentence to that amount of time. I
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) .
is ncves to 1Any further discussion? If not, Senator Geo-Karnon-concur in... If one seeks recognition, a11 they have to do is
turn their light on. Senator Shadid, did you seek recognition?
Senator Geo-Karis moves to non-concur in House Amendment Na. k tc
Senate Bill 1251. A1l those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay.
The Ayes have it. The mottcn carries, and the Secretary shall so
inform the House. Senator Thomas Dunn on the Floor? Senator
DeAngelis, on 1365. Madam Secretary, Would you read the bill
number and the House amendments?
ACTING SECRETARY HAWRER:
House Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 1365.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator DeAngelis.
SENATOR DeANGELIS:
Thank youz Mr. President. When Senate Bl11 1365 left herey it
was a Revenue Committee bill: a bill consisting of a consensus
Members of the committee. The House decided that once it got
there, that they would kind of pork it up a bit, and the bill has
countless amendments on it of House bills that -- some have
valldityy some have not. Therefore, I would move not to concur,
and if there's any good stuff in there, we'11 find it later when
lt's ln conference. !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)IIs there discussion? Is there dlscussion? If notr Senator
DeAngelis moves to non-concur in House Amendments No. l and 2 onISenate Bill 1365. A1k those in favor, say Aye. Opposed; Nay. ,
The Ayes have it. The motion carries, and the Secretary shall so
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1inform the House. Senator O'Malley, on 1366. Madam Secretary,
iwill you read the nunber and the House amendments?I
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: II
House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 1366.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator O'Malley. 1SENATOR O'MALLEY:
I -- thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I --
I'm movinq to non-concur in Senate Bill 1366. The original bill,
as it left the Senate: was a vehicle for an impact fee agreed
legislation. It came back with that gutted out of it and contalns
language in favor of something for the Cook County Forest Preserve
District. I have talked With the parties who are negotiating the
impact fee language, and I belleve that it's very possible that
we'll be able to still get tbis done this Session. So I would
request your support on my motlon, so that we can keep this
process moving along.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Is there dlscussion? If not, Senator O'Malley moves to
non-concur ln House Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 1366. Al1
those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The
motion carries, and the Secretary shall so inform the House.
Senator Raica, on 1477. Madam Secretary.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
House Amendments 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7 to Senate Bil1 1477.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Ralca.
SENATOR RAICA:
Thank you, Mr. President. I move to non-concur in House
Amendments 1, 3, 4: 5 and 7.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Is there discussion? Senator del Valle.
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1SENKTOR dEL VALLE:
Thank youz Mr. President. Question for the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
He indicates he Would yield.
SENATOR dEL VALLE: '
Senator Raica, could you please exptain Why We are
non-concurring with House Amendment No. 4? My understanding is
that that's an amendment that was tacked on after an agreement was
reached with the University of Illinois and the other systemsr
regarding the need for diversity training for the campus police
departments. There's great interest in this, on the part of that
campus, and I don't understand why -- if it was agreed to with the
University, why we're not proceeding wëth this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator Raica.
SENATOR RAICA:
Senator, my understanding is the Police Trainlng Board already
does this and has asked that we hold it at thls point in time and,
if need be, go to conference committee to discuss b0th sides of
the story. And I have açreed: as the sponsot of this bill, to --
to their wisbes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator de1 Valle.
SENATOR del VALLE:
So -- so, Senator Raica, you're saylng that -- that it's a
matter of coming together and agreeing on -- on language? Because
nowhere in the Statute, my understanding is, is there a mention of
diversity training, and for the -- the Local Law Enforeement
Training Board to be involved ln this area. And that's what we're
attempting to do here. Are you saying that we will be able to
continue to talk about this and work towards agreed language?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)II
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Senator Raica. i
SENATOR RAICA: i
Senator, I'm always willing to sit down and talk. But what I i
I Ihave in front of me is that the Local Government Law Officers
Training Board already has culture dtversity training for police
departments on public coklege campuses. You are correct; bhat --
ny understanding is, (t is not in law; however, it is taughb
presently during trakning. So, as soon as we come to a conference
committee, I'd be more than happy to entertain any of your wishes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)
Senator del Valle.
SENATOR dEL VALLE:
Well, I -- I do want to be involved in the discusslons,
because this particular amendment indicates clearly that the
university campus police Will be lnvolved in helping to -- and the
university system, in helping to shape the curriculum in this
partlcular area. So, it is dlfferent from what the LaW
Enforcement Training Board looks at, and we want to make sure that
this occurs on a regular basls, rather than Whenever funding
becomes available at any given pcint.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER)Any further discussion? If not, Senator Raica moves to
non-concur ln House Amendments No. 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7 on Senate Bill
1477. A11 those in favor, signify by saylng Aye. Opposed, Nay.
The Ayes have it. The motion carrles, and the Secretary shall so
inform the House. Senator Mahar, on 1724. Madam Secretary, read
*he b111 numbers and the House amendments, please.
ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:
House Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8: 10, 11 and 12 to