Staggering

Staggering Seduction Mines

It is the art of breaking barriers and quickly integrating yourself

into her romantic narrative in a manner that will feel gradual and

natural. I call it 'staggering’ because of both the incredible results and

because the principle is to break down barriers in overlapping levels and

to create a seduction narrative for her, bringing together her different

realities. Think of it as setting land mines in a staggered pattern. Every

time she attempts to erect a barrier, a mine will explode and give you

further access into her world. And in the end, you bring it together with

her. If you do this correctly, she will be willing to do virtually anything

for you.

Limits of speed seduction (at least of the version so far

revealed):

1) Women have deeply embedded obstacles. It will take more

than simply creating a temporary state of stimulation or

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openness. She has been training herself for 20+ years to

erect certain barriers. Even if you overcome some of her

obstacles by inducing her into a temporary hypnotic state,

there is a high likelihood that she will retract and put up her

former obstacles once the feeling is gone or you are away,

e.g. the same way the temporary high that comes from

listening to self help tapes goes away after a few days.

Anchors have limited use when they are attached to feelings

and aren't in turn attached to more profound states that are

related to a woman's deepest, most closely held and complex

thoughts. Speed seduction needs a more realistic and

integrated synthesis where the seducer becomes part of the

woman's intricate and lasting thoughts and feelings.

2) These deeply embedded obstacles often make asking her

direct questions to access the fourth level of her mind or

introducing ideas using traditional SS methods (e.g. weasel

phrases) somewhat ineffective. For example, imagine what

would happen if someone you didn't know well asked you

about the specific reason you really enjoy 'x'. You may be

unmotivated to really think about the answer unless you

already really like the person. Without first establishing a

deep level of rapport and trust, and without something to

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make her WANT to discuss things with you, you will probably

often get cursory and even inaccurate answers. Just think

about how your parents used to ask you all those questions

about what you enjoy about school, etc.—we are inclined to

provide curt answers that say nothing when we are

unconcerned about what the other person thinks or do not feel

motivated to involve ourselves in deeper communication.

3) Ross's answer is to establish rapport before you go into this

type of questioning. He would have us do this with laughter

and making small talk to maker her comfortable. Certainly this

is a viable solution, but it is also easier said than done.

Moreover, if someone is skilled enough to establish this

rapport, they are probably on the path towards seducing that

individual even without using SS tools. A programmatic

technique is thus needed to simultaneously address the

problem with establishing rapport and to put her into a state

where she WANTS to be seduced.

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Basics/purposes of this staggering seduction mines:

1) Establish a way to simultaneously building rapport and trust by

gradually breaking down her obstacles. These barriers include:

social expectations, peer influences, personality (she isn't used

to being open in this way), moral constructs, and inertia

(especially if she is attractive, she may be unreceptive unless

you provide something that she wants or something that

intrigues her). This technology does not assume that

instilling a momentary or temporary feeling will suffice to break

down the walls. There must be substance underlying the

seduction and substance underlying the lowering and

elimination of her barriers. The idea behind this important

distinction between this technology and SS is that feelings are

not easily recalled, even with anchoring. Her former barriers will

likely destroy whatever temporary progress you have made.

However, if these feelings are combined with ideas, values,

deep memories, hopes, dreams, and the very constructs of her

character, you become something much more important than

someone who temporarily made her feel good. You become

essential to her sense of higher self. Borrowing that infamous

line from Jerry Maguire, "you [will] complete her."

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2) Make her anticipate your words and focus on what you have to

say because you will be intriguing, comfortable, and somewhat

confusing to

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her. You will instill the feeling in her that you have something

valuable and perhaps essential to add, not only to the

moment, but in her entire life and to her eternal mind and

soul.

3) Give her access to herself in a way that makes her feel as if

she has unlimited power to make herself whole. And provide

"specific generics" that give her reason to believe that you

know more about her than she realizes—that you possess some

kind of insight and wisdom that you will reveal on your own

terms. E.g. asking her if she ever had a secret desire to be an

actor. Use the horoscope principle. That is, if you provide a bit

of insight or a broad level prediction, if she is in the proper

state, she will fill in the blanks and make whatever you say

true. Everything you say will start to take on significant

meaning and she will come to see you as her authority in life.

This is extremely powerful, but also terribly dangerous.

4) Instill yourself into her personal narrative by accessing her

past, present, and future; fluctuating between the three; and

making suggestions about her, about you, and about the two

of you within this context. This is the key to this technology—

you will access pleasant and cherished childhood memories,

and integrate them with her present and future. This must

include symbols and snapshots or movies that reveal her

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values, fantasies, dreams, and aspirations. It is time-distortion

to the tenth power, adding underlying substance to it. If you

are able to integrate these things, you will make her feel

'whole'

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and you will be given the opportunity to inject suggestions about

your role in her life very easily.

5) This technology is called "staggering seduction mines"

because you are laying conversational traps to gradually break down

her barriers, and you will destroy these barriers and employ a

staggered seduction strategy, alternating between her different

realities (past, present, and future) and integrating them, while

incorporating yourself as the glue that holds them together. Break

her down her different levels and put them back together.

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Strategic Implementation

These are general suggestions; they merely present a structure

for using this technology. The real power and force in this technology

comes with true understanding of the underlying principles. Thus,

although I present steps in applying the technology, it should not be

taken so literally. These steps are simply examples and highlights of

key principles. One who does not understand the principles will likely

fail in using the technology. However, one who does understand the

principles and learns how to carry them out will wield incredible

power. While I hesitate to use the comparison, it is the same principle

that compels nations of people to follow a cult-of-personality leader

with unbridled devotion and it is the same idea that makes

reasonable people able to fall prey to cult leaders. These ideas

combined with the strongest applications of SS make this technology

absolutely deadly.

Step one:

Set a precedent that allows you to bring up random ideas of which

she will search for greater meaning. This will give you the opportunity to

set 'conversational traps' without having her become suspicious that you

are trying to lure her into your control.

Very important—you must intersperse profound and extremely 9

intelligent ideas with ridiculous and seemingly irrelevant ones. This is

not the same as interspersing hypnotic suggestions with fluff. You are

condition her to confuse

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and add intrigue and mystery, making her more attentive and curious.

Make it so that she has a difficult time being able to tell whether you

have said something extremely important or whether you're just being

wildly creative. Do this using an inconsistent pattern. What you discuss

does not have to be geared towards specifically seductive topics. Rather,

you are laying the groundwork so that she will be somewhat confused by

you, but will come to suspect that there's something really deep going on

in your mind. You are conditioning her so that she will come to believe

that everything you say may be interesting and important.

For example, I have gained the instant respect and curiosity of a

number of women by saying something as ridiculous as "You know, I

think Beavis and Butthead is a really good show." She will inevitably

scoff at me and talk about how stupid a show it is—how it's just two

idiots making dumb comments. I will respond by pausing a while, looking

at her for a while, and without any disrespect say "is that all you see in

it? Hmmmm... I guess that's probably what most people think, now that

I think about it." She will start to feel as if I am judging her, though not

necessarily in a manner that it terribly threatening, since it's Beavis and

Butthead afterall.

Only when she asks what I think, as she inevitably will, since she

wants to know on what basis she is being judged, I will launch into a

detailed discussion of how the writer of the show perfectly captures the

most mind-numbing side of suburban dystopia—the imaginary place

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where life is depressingly wretched and where people live a fearful

existence. I discuss how the idea that these two kids

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who have nothing in life besides each other and their television

communicate in a way that barely recognizes the existence of the other.

For example, there are numerous scenes where one of them gets hurt,

and the other acts as if he does not even realize it. It's as if the other

person is no more real to him than what he sees on television—the most

compelling recent rendition of individualism in our capitalist society

leading to an existential crisis. I'll then compare it to various works of

literature that invoke the same theme, and explain to her that most

people mistake the presentation for lack of substance, which is no

different from judging a book by its cover. I inform her that during

Dostoyevsky's and Kafka's time, their writing was treated as mere

comedy.

Her reaction to my discussion is usually one of tempered

curiosity—she'll of course say that she thinks I'm reading too much into

it, but it's obvious that she is surprised by my insight and is forced to

question whether she's missed something just like everyone else has.

To cap off the discussion, I'll discuss how intelligent the creator is,

referring to an interview and something really profound that he said,

just to make her question herself even more.

It's terribly important to not fight her on it Never be defensive

and treat the conversation like it's being had in good fun. Make her

wonder just how serious you are. Let your statements speak for

themselves, [as an aside, in the above discussion, I've also laid a

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powerful seduction mine—one that is setting up a discussion about

living life to the fullest and achieving the optimal state—more on that

later] Note, if you are unable to discuss your 'ridiculous topic'

intelligently and thoroughly, don't do it—you'll just end up looking silly.

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So what I've done accomplishes a number of things. First, by making

what initially seems like an absolutely ridiculous statement and allowing

her to think of it/me as ridiculous, I let her know what it feels like to look

down on me or dismiss what I say. Then I lower the boom and

overwhelm her with a discussion to show her just how wrong she is and

let her question her judgment about whatever I say, and essentially

about me. If I do this in a light hearted and even humorous way and

intersperse it into the conversation enough, she will begin to actively

listen to me and will become afraid to dismiss anything too readily for

fear that she'll miss something or be seen by me as not worthy of my

company. I can't emphasize enough how well this works.

Another way to accomplish the same thing is to lace the conversation

with things that seem like they're wildly irrelevant. When you show her

how relevant and interesting your point is, she'll be intrigued and forced

to take what you say seriously, again for fear that she's missing

something. The more seemingly irrelevant comment, the better.

For example, a woman once told me how her younger brother was

really shy. I informed her that a number of mentally ill people take up

the martial arts. Of course, she became offended and asked whether I

was saying her brother was mentally ill. Then I explained to her how the

act of going through physical routines and engaging in a disciplined

practice instills confidence and greater poise, and this is why many

mentally challenged people are encouraged to take up the martial arts.

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I told her how her brother should focus on an activity that requires a

high level of physicality and discipline because it will force him to focus

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less on his internal states and instead on a rigorous practice of 'x\

[another aside—again, I'm laying down a conversational mine about how

focus on the external and emphasis on internal states are at odds—it will

be easy for me to talk about her internal states and what she focuses on

in the environment later on]

Btw, I explained to this woman the relationship between her

brother's shyness and mentally ill people practicing martial arts it a lot

better than what I've just written—but the idea is that you are

conditioning her in an extremely powerful way. If you are able to set a

precedent where you have the liberty to bring up anything, no matter

how irrelevant it seems, then it will make it much easier to apply

traditional SS techniques later on. Moreover, it will give you the license

to bring up seductive topics without having her instantly erect her

typical obstacles to you. And you start gaining a license to shock her.

You get her used to your saying things that seem outrageous, and

eventually you will normalize these outrageous comments so that she

will eventually start to create a special rule for you—that your

outrageous comments are OK, because occasionally she finds out that

they're really relevant and insightful! Because she's seeing you as a

wildcard, she will consciously and subconsciously question her own

patterns of behavior as it relates to her automatic distancing herself

from potential threats. Eventually you will use this to your advantage by

bringing up sexual themes that would have scared her off had you not

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conditioned her to accept them.

Do not make the mistake of always explaining why what you've said

is relevant. Don't a jerk about it, but make it so that you are picking

and choosing

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what you explain. It's all on your terms, because you are the one

with the knowledge, wisdom and power.

Step one is intended to break down her barriers that resist comments

and behavior that fall outside of her moral, social, aesthetic norms. It

lays the groundwork for what you will bring up later. Also, it increases

your worth in her eyes, because she will view you as someone who has

something to add on his own terms. You'll start to become that

interesting and mysterious person who is worth getting to know.

Step two:

Laying conversational traps/mines. Although you have already set

the precedent that allows you to bring up what most people could not,

you still don't want to scare her off, and you must remember how

cautious some women can be (and with good reason—think of all the

kooks, stalkers, and just awkwardly aggressive dorks there are out

there—attractive women become quite adept at sniffing them out and

shutting them down).

What are these conversation traps? They are references that you

intersperse throughout your conversation so that at a later point, you

can draw a link or reference to what you had said before, making it

seem like you're simply picking up on something that had been brewing

in the conversation. This will make it seem like your conversation has

gradually developed in a substantive manner. It's an interesting but

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empirically true psychological phenomenon. People feel like if you're

bringing up something that links to something that was previously

raised, it's natural and part of the development of the conversation. It

takes the pressure off of bringing something up in its cold start

newness. This is one of the solutions to the rapport problem I noted

earlier.

In the SS DC 2000 seminar tapes, one student discussed how he

tried to engage in conversation with a woman he met at a bar. He asked

the woman what she really enjoyed about her job and what was

important to her about it. Not bad questions, right? Well predictably, the

woman thought it was a little strange that he was asking these types of

questions right off the bat, and answered in a way that revealed little

and did nothing for him. Ross's answer was pretty cursory, telling the

student that he had failed to first get into the state himself and that he

had failed to establish rapport. While I agree that getting into an open

state before you attempt to get someone else into that state is

important, it is obviously not so simple, and I realize that Ross realizes

this. The difficulty of establishing rapport in the way that Ross would

have his students do should not be underestimated. It is an especially

significant hurdle to overcome if the person doesn't know the woman

well already. This is why you set conversational traps.

Substantively, the conversational traps should be geared towards

touching upon the areas in which she is most likely to have obstacles

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that prevent her from wanting to allow you to become intimate with her

(and I'm speaking on a holistic level, not just a physical level). As I've

stated, these barriers include ideas that she got from family, friends,

her general moral code, inertia, and the patterns she has assumed in

her personality. The idea is that at the incipient

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stages of the conversation, you sprinkle into the discussion statements

that can be recalled later on.

Let's say that you suspect that she has a barrier in that she's strongly

influenced by family pressures and will not get into a relationship unless

her family would approve. Maybe her family has an undue influence on

her choices in this way. Anyhow, if you aren't positive about this and do

not have an opportunity to address it, it's likely that this barrier will be

extremely difficult to overcome. So you need to get her to consciously

think about this barrier and when she does, you can use the principles of

SS 2000 to get her to think differently and additionally, you demonstrate

that you have an understanding of these barriers. The conversational

trap should be subtle and must not appear forced.

Using the above example, let's say that you're talking about

something mundane like weather. "Beautiful day," she'll say. "Yeah. Uh

huh, it's supposed to be beautiful all weekend" a normal dullard would

respond. But you, instead, will set a conversational trap and will say

something like "Yeah, it's supposed to be sunny all weekend, but even

so, I have this irrational impulse to carry an umbrella. I think this is a

remnant of influence from what my mother used to always tell me."

She'll just see this as a funny comment, related to the subject at hand.

But what you've really done is give yourself an ability to bring up an

important subject later on.... Like if she does something inexplicable or

apparently irrational later on, you can say, "hmmm... is it possible that

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this is your personal umbrella issue?" She probably won't know what

you're talking about,

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unless she's really sharp. If she doesn't know what you're referring to,

then you say something like "remember how I was telling you about how

I have these impulses that are based on things my family told me rather

than what is realistic?" This makes it much easier for her to think about

that topic in your presence, because it was brought up in such a casual

and funny manner and because it was a link to something that was

brought up before.

I could go on for dozens of pages about this topic alone. You can and

should use this powerful technique so that no matter what issue or

barrier might arise, you can make a reference to something that was

discussed beforehand. This is infinitely better than asking her direct

questions that instruct her to delve into her personal space and give

something to you. Instead, it makes her feel like going into her personal

reasons for doing things is part of the development of the conversation.

It simply takes the pressure off of her and allows you to be more

invasive.

Here are some examples of conversational traps I have successfully

used to establish real rapport, break down her barriers, and set her up

for the most powerful seduction model:

1) "That reminds me of a conversation I was having with my

brother, since he just had a kid, about the best way to raise my

nephew." Of course, if we get into the discussion right there, I

can learn a heck of a lot about her value system, what she

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prioritizes and cares about, and what her idea is of her past

and future self as it relates to family issues or other common

obstacles. But if we don't get into the discussion then, I can

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bring it up later by relating it to something she says. E.g.,

she'll say something totally mundane like "I don't like watching

tv much." And I'll respond by saying, "yeah, when my brother

and I spoke about his raising my nephew we spoke in detail

about the effects of tv on kids." Since it's the second time I'm

bringing up the conversation, it's almost guaranteed that we'll

discuss the topic in greater detail. And even though in this

example, we will begin by talking about whether growing up

with tv is good, the real strength of the technique is that I start

getting her to invoke and describe her own childhood memories

and I can easily get her to talk about her attitudes and values

by branching out the discussion so it relates to other things that

my brother and I supposedly discussed.

You see, women really want to talk about these things,

but they will only do it if it feels comfortable, natural and safe.

What I've done is make it seem comfortable and natural, and

by bringing up the conversation in the context of my own

family, it seems safe to her to discuss her own opinions and

experience. This uses the power principle of reciprocation, e.g.

if you reveal something (and she doesn't view you as a needy

weakling who isn't worth her attention), she is likely to feel as

if she should reveal something too.

One of the reasons why this particular conversational

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trap is so effective is because family and past influences are

critical in a woman's development of barriers or general rules

for intimacy. If you get her to

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discuss her family and she feels like she's learning something

about her past while she's talking about it, she will enter an

altered state—the most powerful trance state you can access.

As I'll discuss later, it's important that you don't direct the

conversation in a manner that makes it seem like you're

becoming her therapist. Make it so that it seems like you're

trading information and giving her a chance to talk about

things that matter to her. Never spend too much time

exclusively delving into her past—otherwise you'll start to fulfill

an unwanted role. You will need to assert yourself and bring up

plenty of random comments to take her off track when the flow

of the conversation doesn't favor your objectives.

"That experience put me into a state of flow". Here, I'm

setting up a conversation about optimal states. It is somewhat

similar to Ross's discussion about 'biissnosis', but the

difference is that 'flow' is based on academic clinical

psychology and not some new age sounding thing, just in case

she's one who might disrespect the self-help world (or at least

a man's participation in it). If you're trying to raise your

esteem in her eyes, talking about psychological research about

how people become happy and experience optimal states is a

good thing—she'll perceive you as an interesting person who

spends his time reading about sophisticated topics. Referring

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to something you learned in a self-help course might end up

making you look like something of a wuss.

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Flow is a field of study pioneered by this professor of

psychology at the University of Chicago. He was trying to

figure out what puts people in their optimal states, where

one's sense of time is off, all distractions fall into the

background, etc. It's like how a chess mater can focus on a

single move for hours without realizing that the time has

passed. If you want to learn more about this topic, you should

read Flow, the Psychology of Optimal Experience. It is a rare

woman who doesn't enjoy talking about this topic. And the

thing is, it gives you the opportunity to really nail her with the

most powerful SS tools. You get her to recall experiences

where she's experienced her most optimal state. She'll want to

do this. Most people want to add something to the

conversation—if you're going on about this academic subject

which really has to do with our everyday experiences, she's

going to want to participate to make herself feel like she's

adding something and is intelligent. And you will give her an

automatic way to participate by telling her how. Once you start

to flesh out what her optimal experience was in the past, you

can use all the tools of speed seduction, e.g. demonstrating

understanding, anchoring, putting in commands that relate to

you, etc.

"It's like we're characters in a movie". This one is remarkably

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powerful. First of all, it's somewhat ambiguous. What do I

mean by 'we'? Is it the generic 'we' or does it mean the two of

us, as an exclusive couple? I'll make this comment when

something unusual happens in the

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environment when we're talking or if anything unusual is

brought up in our discussion. This gives me an opportunity to

later talk about this 'movie' we're in. And I get her to

contribute about what is in the movie, what happens, and what

the underlying themes are.

The wonderful part of this trap is that it sets up a

discussion where I can directly get her to co-create a movie

about the two of us, and I am given the power as a director in

this movie. This also gives me access to how she processes her

images. It's a direct way to access her submodalities, as Ross

would put it. The actual conversation where you are creating

this movie together is something she will likely enjoy, because

it gives her a chance to be creative and imaginative. It's the

same principle that underlies women's obsession with artists.

They love to live vicariously and feel a part of this creative

world that the man has created. She wants to be a part of this

world of creativity and imagination. You are giving her the

chance to do just this.

This, of course, is the key to seducing her—capturing her

imagination, and most of all directing it. The purpose of your

conversation trap is to make it seem normal to her that you

think in this vivid manner. If she realizes that you process your

ideas and what you hear in a visual and audio and dynamic

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fashion, it will seem more normal when you ask her to

participate in your creation that involves the two of you. Since

I assume that you have an advanced

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understanding of speed seduction, I leave it to you to come up

with seduction themes and language in your movie discussion.

"That reminds me of 'name work of literature.'" If you're

dealing with a woman who is an expert in literature, you can't

use this. The last thing you want to do is enter into a territory

that she will best you in. Instead, you want to make feel like

you have something to add. But at the same time, you're also

giving yourself an opening to directly talk about seduction

themes in a non-threatening manner. She'll also likely be

flattered to comparisons or even discussions that compare her

ideas or behavior to works of literature. This is the equivalent to

reading a woman poetry, but it is much better, because by

setting the conversational mine, you give yourself the license to

describe in detail seductive themes and bring up things that

you've picked up from reading. You can also set up discussions

of how what she's said or how she's behaved relates to a good

movie you've seen or a song you've heard.

Think of what's easier for a woman to discuss. She can

respond to a direct question about what she finds seductive or

attractive, which will make her feel incredibly uncomfortable.

Or you can give her the chance to give you her perspective on

what characters in a particular movie are feeling when they're

falling in love. Almost invariably, she'll draw on her love

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experience and value system. This is an easy way to

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indirectly and even directly talk about seductive topics. Let

me give you an example.

Early in the conversation, I'll say something mundane like,

"did you see the Oscars?" I'll make a comment about how I

wish "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" had won the award for

best picture. If she wants to talk about the movie right then

and there, then fine, I go directly into the discussion. But the

point is that I've set a trap. She knows that I think highly of the

movie, but she has no idea that I plan on discussing the movie

at some point in a deeply seductive manner. Anyhow, if she's

not interested in talking about the movie right then, I wait until

a point in the conversation where I feel like she'll be more open

to go into a topic in greater detail.

Then when something random comes up, I'll make a

comparison to Crouching Tiger, e.g. "yeah, that man has no

patience—nothing like that guy in Crouching Tiger. Do you

remember how Chow Yun Fat had spent his life loving Michelle

Yoeh?" Then I'll let her go on for a while about what she

thought. I'll say some random things back before I barrage her

with seductive theme.

I'll say, for example, "Like every minute, he felt an

overwhelming desire and deep warmth and love for her to the

point where his entire being radiated and glowed with an

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energy generated from his true love, but he refused to act

upon that feeling all his life, up until the point before death

where he realized he wasted his life by not acting upon

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that love? I mean can you imagine that? You feel a deep and almost

magical connection with a man to the point where your face becomes

flush and you tingle with excitement every time you're close to him.

[pointing at yourself]. But for some reason—because of family, because

of honor, you deprive yourself, and then on the brink of death, you

realize that you have forgone the most important and true thing in your

life?"

If you understand SS, you understand that I'm bringing her into that

state of feeling what true love is like. This should be pretty easy if she

saw the movie, since she'll be dually thinking of her own experience

and the movie (which would've probably evoked some intense emotions

in her). Then I'm getting her to think about how painful it is to not act

on something that she could find out in the future is true love. This

involves negative conditioning, and also time warping.

Moreover, I am also creating an artificial shared experience between

the two of us. Why do women love to watch these romance films? Well

they love to live vicariously and feel as if they are the protagonist who

is winning her true love, just the kind that she deserves. It's the same

principle that makes thuggish men want to see violent films. If you can

get a woman to recall a romantic movie that she loved, and if you can

talk about it in a way that brings back the experience and you can

discuss it in her language, then it's as if you're

sharing that experience—almost as if you were sitting next to her in the

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theater, or even better, as if you were both characters in the film.

There's so much more I can do with this Crouching Tiger example.

For instance, I can say, "isn't it interesting how the different love stories

give people different things to relate to in that movie. Like on the one

hand you have Chow Yun Fat and Michelle Yoeh, which involved this

long lasting respect, admiration, and true love which was reciprocated

but never acted upon, [expand and add seductive themes]. And then

you had Zhang Ziyi (the young woman) and the rogue warrior, a wild

heated romance of violent passion where it wasn't so much mutual

temperate respect, but the need to possess and the need to throw

yourself into something dangerous and explosive. Like remember that

scene where he was taking that splinter out of her foot and how

seductive that was—how she was experiencing intense physical pain,

but submitting to him in an overtly sexual way—and how she stabbed

him before they suddenly embraced and started kissing passionately

and rolling around then having sex. [again, you can expand and

elaborate]. And finally, you had this brewing possibility of a romance

with Chow Yun Fat and Zhang Ziyi, where this fascination between a

master and pupil was developing. Like Zhang Ziyi was the undisciplined

girl with tremendous talent ability, someone full of possibilities—

possibilities and potential that fascinated and drew Chow Yun Fat to her.

And with Zhang Ziyi, there was a real draw of his poise, his wisdom,

and his ability to be a self-entity, unlike the rogue warrior [blah, blah,

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blah—add more seduction themes].

The brilliant part of this conversation is that you present different

models of romance and falling in love. She will most likely focus on one

of them, the one which she finds most exciting or compelling in her life.

Then you can really explore that theme and describe the scenes in a

really seductive manner. It's like presenting her with a choose-your-

own-seduction path/adventure. You are laying traps within the trap.

This is just one example. Potentially, you could talk about seductive

topics the whole time, while she believes she's just having a high

quality conversation about movies, books, music, or whatever. Of

course, you need to do your research before you use this technique.

Otherwise, you'll just come across as dim witted.

I suggest focusing on the romance film technique. You must do your

research and watch these movies and spend time understanding them

and figuring out how to talk about them. Tons of women enjoy When

Harry Met Sally, Sleepless in Seattle, and Pretty Woman. These are

pretty awful movies, but what can you do? If the woman is more

intelligent, then she might like Shadowlands. Remains of the Day,

Casablanca or perhaps even Breathless. Figure out how to discuss these

films in a seductive manner. It will give you an instant in. One

caution—make sure that you retain a certain level of dismissiveness

when you do this—otherwise she'll probably think that you're a little too

girly.

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Yes, this is similar to Ross's advice to tell stories, read

poetry or whatever. But it's infinitely better, because the

woman will respect you more based on your insight, she will

has access to what you're talking about (i.e. if she hasn't seen

the movie, she definitely will), and it gives her more of an

opportunity to participate and reveal herself to you.

Step Three

Identify those barriers and begin to peer over them.

So you've laid the groundwork. She has some level of respect for

you and is intrigued to a certain degree by what you have to say. And

you've laid the foundation for being able to bring up random topics as

well as bring up topics that have already come up before. Now is the

time to address the barriers preventing you from developing a special

relationship with her. First, you must find out what they are before you

can break down those barriers and get her to think differently.

Much of this has to do with going back to topics that you've brought

up when laying down your seduction mines. The discussions you will

eventually have will simultaneously put her into a receptive trance state

and substantively break down her barriers. In order to do this, you

have to figure out what triggers her interest or causes her to react the

most. You've already brought up a number of topics with your

seduction mines, so when you bring them up again, is it easy to

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get her to talk about the topic or is she less receptive or interested? If

she is interested, you can delve into the area to find out what her

sticking points are.

For example, there was one situation where I brought up something

about my parents, and she became very interested and started asking

about whether my parents care about what kind of person I date. This is

the easiest case. She's giving me a direct opening to talk about this area

of her life and is indicating what her issues might be. If she's not so

forthcoming, I could make another reference to my umbrella problem

and talk about another such problem. I could then bring up a funny

story about growing up, and then I could ask her an open-ended

question—did you ever have anything like that happen to you when you

were growing up? Then I would listen intently to see how she

characterizes her childhood.

I'm not trying to be a psychiatrist, nor am I pretending that I can

truly understand her complex past. Rather, I'm getting hints as to what

I should do when I'm crafting seduction themes. If she talks fondly of

her childhood and laughs at things that she and her parents and siblings

used to do, she probably highly values that type of tranquility, peace

and security in family life. So when I go into my seduction theme, I'm

going to focus on those values and feelings that are associated with

happiness in the family. On the other hand, if she talks about conflict

and people who are unreasonable, I'm going to focus my seduction

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theme on overcoming conflict and resolving problems—escaping

negativity.

Another example is one where I determined that the subject of my

seduction seemed to be limited by what she considered to be the

boundaries of her personality. I realized that in order for her to allow

herself to be seduced by me, she would have to do things that she

wouldn't otherwise do. To first put her in this risk taking state, I started

doing slightly unorthodox things. For example, I would talk to

strangers and minimally involve her in the conversation. This

demonstrated to her that we could behave in a way that went beyond

her comfort zone and the results would be positive or at least would not

involve any painful consequences. I then segued into a seduction theme

that involved risk taking. I asked her to recall a time where she

overcame a fear, describing the prior state as one of paralysis, like

she's so nervous that she becomes someone who is not herself (note

that I'm suggesting that her risk taking self is closer to her real self). I

asked her to recall how invigorating and wonderful it felt to know that

looking back, the obstacle or barrier that prevented her from taking a

risk was not real—that she could overcome it and experience whatever

there is to offer in life—all of the possibilities. Then I involved some

time distortion, saying how great it would feel to be in a place in the

future where she knows she's taken all the opportunities life has thrown

her way and she would have no regrets, and looking back to this point

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in time, she would know that she made an important decision to

overcome these obstacles that she would later discover were merely

illusory.

You'll want to do this for the major areas in which she might have

erected barriers preventing her from letting you in. As I've stated,

these barriers include her morals, family, social influences, inertia, and

her personality patterns. I leave it to you to craft the specific manner in

which you access these potential barriers.

But the general principle is the same. Relate a statement and an open

ended question to something that you've previously mentioned. And

then listen for her trigger words and emphasis, which you'll use as the

groundwork for your seduction thesis.

Obviously when you start to develop these seduction themes, you

should use all the skills you've learned in SS. The best one to use is

time warping, especially when dealing with her past. If she had a happy

upbringing and has cherished memories of the past, then you can talk

about how memories work, and just as she is now looking back on the

past and keeping that as a part of herself, that someday, she'll look

back to the way things are now, and hopefully she will have made the

right choices so that she can look back just as fondly. Certainly you're

going to want to lace this description with embedded commands and a

more detailed description of what you think should consist of her

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memories she's currently creating. This is just an example.

One caution. Be sure to watch for the difference between boredom

and reluctance. For example, if I bring up in the conversation again the

topic about my brother raising his kid, if it's something that she seems

reluctant to talk about, then I can safely assume that something about

her life in that area makes it difficult for her to talk about it. I have

identified a potentially huge barrier. And with every barrier, I see great

potential. Because the person who can peer over the barrier is the one

who will gain her devotion.

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This step is probably the toughest one. This is where you can

potentially scare her off, but it's also where she can start to really gain a

sense of devotion to you, the one who truly understands her.

Step four

Now you have already discovered what some of her barriers are, and

you have talked to her in a seductive manner that relates to the key

themes of those barriers. She should really start to get a sense that you

understand her. You will pace this whole process by interjecting things

that are irrelevant, just to keep her anticipating what you have to say.

Once you're satisfied that she's in a state where she's really starting

to open herself up, you go pull out the big guns.

First, you throw out a number of 'specific generics.' As I've stated

before, there are a number of things that are almost invariably true

about people, even though they believe that thing is a unique attribute

or experience.

One example is "did you ever dream about becoming an actress

when you're growing up?" This is true of almost any woman, actually.

However, especially when she's caught up with how well she's being

understood, she will think that you're reading her mind. This makes her

ripe for the ultimate seduction technique. The 'actress' example works

particularly well with shy girls. Most shy girls have dreams of being

something that they're not—someone who can project her greatness

and become the center of attention. But they're afraid to do this in real

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life, and often they're even afraid to reveal that aspiration. I once used

this specific generic on a woman, and she couldn't believe it—she

thought I was reading her mind and just stared at me with her mouth

wide open, saying 'how did you know? How did you know?" "I just did,"

I responded.

Another specific generic is "do you sometimes feel like people just

aren't understanding where you're coming from?" Alternatively, "do you

feel like sometimes, people aren't really listening?" Well this is obviously

true. People in general pay very little attention to others. She'll probably

have picked up on this in her own experience. The benefit of this

specific generic is that she'll also make sure to listen more carefully to

you.

Yet another specific generic is "do you sometimes wonder what

it'd be like if you just left everything and everybody behind and started

anew?" Well everyone thinks about this. And I'm certainly not trying to

say that women are unintelligent and gullible and will think you're

reading their mind if you say this at any point. In fact, if you say this

right off the bat, she'll probably say, "yeah, doesn't everyone think

about that?" However, if you've put her in a state where she's already

fascinated and somewhat in a trance and have demonstrated

understanding, then she'll give your statement a very generous and

liberal interpretation. And all of the sudden, you become this authority

who really understands things and mysteriously knows who knows

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what.

And even another specific generic is, "do you sometimes feel

disappointed by people." Same principle. Invariably true. But people

are prone to thinking they're more unusual than they really are. This

includes all of us, of course.

Now that you've done that, it's time for the really deadly

seduction. Keep in mind, you do this after you've already loosened her

up, you've identified her potential barriers, you've figured out

something about seduction themes to develop, you've already launched

into barrier breaking seduction themes, and you've presented yourself

as someone mysterious, unpredictable, but intelligent and full of

incredible wisdom and insight. Now it's time to lower the boom.

It's triple threat time distortion. The most powerful technique of

SS is time distortion. But what I've developed here is much more than

just having someone imagine an outcome as if it had already happened

or thinking about and reviving the past in the mind. The basic idea is

that you take the most powerful ideas and themes you've been able to

ascertain about her past (especially her childhood); her current

conception of who she is as an individual, her limits and strengths

included; and her ideal future self—the way that she thinks she will be

and the way she'd ideally like to be. Take all of these elements, wrap

them up and create a synthetic whole, a complete picture capturing all

of these things, casting it in the most coherent, clear, strong, and

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brilliant light in a place that goes beyond time and space—a place that

lies in the nexus between reality and imagination—where imagination

and fantasy—the most uninhibited creativity, intelligence, and spirit of

her mind, heart, and soul become eternal. Yes, it's vague, but

intentionally vague. Basically, you are helping her to achieve a concept

of self that is incredibly powerful, yet resonant with her being.

Let's step back for a moment. Why am I doing what I'm doing

here? 1 am addressing a core problem that addresses what prevents

people from being happy. Most people in our culture are not as happy

as they could be. We all know this but choose not to acknowledge it in

our daily existence. There are a number of reasons why we aren't

happy, but one of the main reasons is that our society pushes us based

on economic constraints and social pressures to behave in ways and

make choices that aren't consistent with how we conceive ourselves

and how we developed as individuals.

There are those of us who are able to adapt is a way that doesn't

stray too far from what we've been, who we are, and what we want to

be. Those people are comparably happy. There are the lucky few who

have been blessed with the proper gifts or even encouragement, or

perhaps they've just figured it out and have the right psychology and

have lived life to the absolute fullest. But then there are the majority of

people who have been trained to not demonstrate or explore the full

extent of our creativity and individuality. Our aspirations are quashed

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before we even had a chance to get started living out our dreams.

To the extent that this is all true for you, it is three times as true

for women. Our society places so many expectations and limitations on

women's growth. The opportunities to be a certain type of person, live a

certain type of life, and be in a certain type of relationship are severely

restricted due to pressures from family, society, peers, media, etc. If

you have gone through the first three steps of this seduction method,

you will have already uncovered and addressed some of these barriers.

You should not underestimate the constraints that women subjectively

feel.

Every man who wants to understand women should read the

book Reviving Ophelia, written by Mary Pipher. It is a book that

talks about the development of self in adolescent girls and how

various pressures impair and even cripple a young woman's sense

of self and possibility. Obviously I strongly oppose anyone trying to

seduce an adolescent. But it should be clear to you that a woman is

the product of her past development.

Just as you may have adapted to fit in and to become a productive

member of society, a woman you are trying to seduce almost invariably

has encountered tons of sexist bs, has been inundated with messages of

her limits, etc. The whole idea of your seduction should be to present to

her the opportunity of going back to that time when she went from

being a carefree, fearless young girl, full of life and possibility to a

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jaded, conforming young woman, whose actions are dictated by

someone else's expectations, her fears, worries, and concerns.

If you can seamlessly connect this state of mind and link it to her

current state—the way she sees herself, and her prospective state—her

ideal self which perhaps relates to the way she was as a child, you have

created narrative integrity in her life. In other words, her life will seem

to make sense—it will be coherent with a compelling story, rather than

being a patchwork of decisions made without reflection. This is why this

technique is so dangerous. Why wouldn't a woman love a man who

could make her feel this way? I really believe that this technique

provides men the ability to give a wonderful gift to women and can help

them undo some of the unfairness and ridiculousness that exists in our

society relating to attitudes towards women.

So how do you do this? Well you've already laid down the

groundwork. It's now up to you to weave together a narrative using

what you have learned, interjecting lush descriptions, embedded

commands, trance words, etc. There is no one way to do this, and in

fact, I advise against coming up with a canned method, because the

spontaneity of putting things together for an individual cannot be

replaced. However, you can arm yourself with general ideas. The best

one I've come up with so far is as follows.

I ask her whether she's seen the movie Afterlife. It's a Japanese

movie that came out within the last couple of years. It's an excellent

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film that you should see. Anyhow, if she hasn't seen it, I tell her it's

premise: that after you die, you enter this place between earth and

heaven—it looks like a barren and empty place and it's like that for a

reason—because they want to give you an opportunity to be by yourself

and understand what is important to you. Your opportunity in this place

is to come up with a single memory that signifies your life, and it is that

single memory that you are allowed to take into the afterlife. You spend

your time in this empty place deciding what that memory is and then

creating a movie, an exact replica of that memory.

This is a fantastic example. It applies what I call the pink elephant

principle. That is, if I ask you to not think of a pink elephant, you

wouldn't be able to do it. Just the same, as I describe how individual

characters in the movie came up with their memories, it is impossible

for her to not think of her own, most treasured memory. And it's easy

and natural to segue into that discussion, i will say that I was thinking

about what mine would be. And then I'd describe one possible memory,

using tactile, visual, auditory descriptions. 1 would then offer her the

opportunity to discuss her memory or at least try to think of one.

She might be shy at first, but once she really starts to think about

it and go back in time to think of that treasured memory, it's not that

hard to get her to describe that memory in detail. And within the

context of the discussion, it's appropriate to ask her about the sounds,

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the sights, the colors, and feelings of that memory—you can even be

playful and pretend that she is in the afterlife and you are one of the

directors who is responsible for reenacting the memory. When you're

doing this, you have the opportunity to help her draw out that

memory—you become a co-director, helping her arrange the pieces so

that everything falls into place. Obviously, it will be very easy for you to

use submodalities, embedded commands, etc. when you are doing this.

Then the next thing I do is suggest that it would be cool if instead

of having a single memory, you could have a short film strip that

represented your life. Like it can start out with a memory from

childhood, blend into a present memory, and then go into the future

and depict something her ideal future self and life. You then assist her

in putting this together, weaving it into a seamless narrative, capturing

the underlying themes and common denominators and interjecting your

voice, your symbolic self, and your energy to piece it all together as the

glue of her new personal narrative. And once you do this, you have her

visualize that movie, that filmstrip wrapping up into an orb of energy,

that's so powerful that it surrounds the two of you, and extends

penetrating luminescent rays of light throughout, bursting within (make

sure when you do this you use ambiguous language so you include

yourself into the experience). Basically, you're taking that narrative and

using techniques of hypnosis and SS to link that

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feeling to you. Anchor that feeling and then let her know how easy it is

for you to create that energy, that feeling together.

I've left out the particular language and many of the particular SS

tools that you would insert, but the general idea is there, and it is that

general model that is truly powerful.

If you successfully adhere to this seduction method, you will win

the woman's respect, admiration, intrigue, attraction, and even thanks

for making her feel like she never has—a whole and eternal being.

As with any powerful technique, its application can be dangerous.

I strongly oppose any exploitation of women, but think that this

technique could give men who really have a lot to offer the chance to

share something or provide something really special to someone who

deserves it.

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