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Siphonic Roof Drainage

Introduction

Siphonic Action

Gravity vs. Siphonic Drainage

Siphonic Drains

TailpipesTailpipes

Pipework

LEED™ - Green Building Design

Applications

Why Siphonic?

Siphonix® Software

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Introduction

• Invented and patented 1968 by Olavi Ebeling

• A fully engineered and highly efficient system

based on hydraulic principlesbased on hydraulic principles

• Used throughout Europe since 1970s

• System design simplified by current generation

of software

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Siphonic Action

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Siphonic Action

• Created by a pipe completely filled with

fluid with one end lower than the other

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Siphonic Action

• Created by a pipe completely filled with

fluid with one end lower than the other

• Gravity will cause the fluid to drain through • Gravity will cause the fluid to drain through

the lower end

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Siphonic Action

• Created by a pipe completely filled with

fluid with one end lower than the other

• Gravity will cause the fluid to drain through • Gravity will cause the fluid to drain through

the lower end

• Cohesive forces between water molecules

ensures the pipe remains full

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Siphonic Action

• The point of ingress must be

higher than the exit point

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Siphonic Action

• The point of ingress must be

higher than the exit point

• The greater the height

h

• The greater the height

difference, the greater the

capacity

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Siphonic Action

• The point of ingress must be

higher than the exit point

• The greater the height

h

• The greater the height

difference, the greater the

capacity

• The pipe must be completely full

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Siphonic Action

• The point of ingress must be

higher than the exit point

• The greater the height

h

• The greater the height

difference, the greater the

capacity

• The pipe must be completely full

• Friction has a big impact

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

• Gravity In gravity systems, water adheres to the wall

of the pipe

Typically only 30% of the pipework is filled

with water – 70% is air

AirWater

• Siphonic

with water – 70% is air

Water

In a primed & working siphonic system,

100% of the pipe is filled with water

Pipework can therefore be significantly

smaller

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

• GravityDeeper water

above outlet

Clashes withPipe with Bigger pipe sizeClashes with

other servicesPipe with

gradient

Bigger pipe size

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

• Gravity Deeper water

above outlet

Clashes withPipe with Bigger pipe size

• Siphonic

Clashes with

other servicesPipe with

gradient

Bigger pipe size

Pipe runs level Easy coordination

with other services

Lower waterdepth

above outlet

Smaller pipe size

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

• Gravity – Number of downpipes

– Significant underground work

– Intrusive piping

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Gravity vs. Siphonic Systems

• Gravity – Number of downpipes

– Significant underground work

– Intrusive piping

• Siphonic– Fewer downpipes

– Minimised underground work

– High level pipes

– Horizontal pipes

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Siphonic Drains

• Outlet: it’s just a controlled hole in the roof!

Roof drain (Outlet )

Air baffle

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Siphonic Drains

• Outlet: it’s just a controlled hole in the roof!

• Siphonic action only occurs when the air baffle

is completely submerged

Roof drain (Outlet )

Air baffle

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Siphonic Drains

Air BaffleAir Baffle

Dome strainers

Air Baffle

Outlet (various

diameters for each

manufacturer. No

hub and threaded

available)

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Siphonic Drains

• Design & testing

performed with CRM

Drainage Consultants

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Siphonic Drains

• Design & testing

performed with CRM

Drainage Consultants

• Full siphonic test rig

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Siphonic Drains

• Design & testing

performed with CRM

Drainage Consultants

• Full siphonic test rig

• Conforms to ASME

Standard A112.6.9-

2005

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Siphonic DrainsConventional Roof Drain

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Siphonic DrainsSiphonic Roof Drain

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Tailpipes

• Connects the roof drain to the horizontal

collector

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Tailpipes

• Connects the roof drain to the horizontal

collector

• Pipes must be vertical and horizontal – not

inclinedinclined

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Tailpipes

• Connects the roof drain to the horizontal

collector

• Pipes must be vertical and horizontal – not

inclinedinclined

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Tailpipes

• Connects the roof drain to the horizontal

collector

• Pipes must be vertical and horizontal – not

inclinedinclined

• Expansion in the

vertical plane should

be avoided

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Pipework

• Most materials are suitable– Cast Iron

– Ductile Iron

– Stainless Steel

– Galvanised steel– Galvanised steel

– Copper

– ABS

– HDPE

– PVC

• Check ASPE Guide for details

• Remember pressure is negative!

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Siphonic Drains

• Water drains normally before siphonic action

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Pipework

• Pipes are installed horizontal & vertical

• Eccentric fittings should be used – where

possible

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On the roof

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On the roof

Secondary / Overflow

High water mark –

midpoint between drains

Primary

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• Siphonic Roof Drainage can gain points

LEED™ - Green Building Design

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• Siphonic Roof Drainage can gain points

�Reduced site disturbance (SS Credit 5.1)

LEED™ - Green Building Design

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• Siphonic Roof Drainage can gain points

�Reduced site disturbance (SS Credit 5.1)

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

LEED™ - Green Building Design

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

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• Siphonic Roof Drainage can gain points

�Reduced site disturbance (SS Credit 5.1)

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

LEED™ - Green Building Design

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

�Rainwater harvesting (WE Credit 3.1/3.2)

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• Siphonic Roof Drainage can gain points

�Reduced site disturbance (SS Credit 5.1)

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

LEED™ - Green Building Design

�Controlled flow roof drainage (SS Credit 6.1)

�Rainwater harvesting (WE Credit 3.1/3.2)

�Innovation in design (ID Credit 1.1)

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Applications

• Large footprint

buildings!

– Warehouses

– Distribution Units

– Airports

– Sports Stadiums

– Shopping Malls

– Factories

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Why Siphonic?

• Greater efficiency– Smaller pipes

– Fewer outlets

– Easier maintenance

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Why Siphonic?

• Greater efficiency– Smaller pipes

– Fewer outlets

– Easier maintenance

• Lower groundwork costs• Lower groundwork costs– Less underground pipework

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Why Siphonic?

• Greater efficiency– Smaller pipes

– Fewer outlets

– Easier maintenance

• Lower groundwork costs• Lower groundwork costs– Less underground pipework

• Reduced installation time– Easier to install

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Why Siphonic?

• Greater efficiency– Smaller pipes

– Fewer outlets

– Easier maintenance

• Lower groundwork costs• Lower groundwork costs– Less underground pipework

• Reduced installation time– Easier to install

• Greater architectural freedom– Fewer downpipes

– Level installation of pipework

– Smaller pipes

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Siphonix® Software

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Siphonix® Software

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Siphonix® Software

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Siphonix® Software

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Siphonix® Software