Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011 BENVENUTI WELCOME First produced …………. And the last one.

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting

Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

BENVENUTI WELCOME

First produced …………. And the last one

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

• Siai 205 project 1964 by Alessandro Brena• Production 1966 – 1979

(mainly within 1972) Italy, assembly plants in U.S.A. South Africa and Spain

• Siai 205 , 3 versions, production: 515 units– S.205 F/R-18:engine Avco Lycoming O-360 180 hp– S.205 F/R-20:engine Avco Lycoming -IO360 200 hp

– S.205 F/R-22: engine Franklin 6A-350C1 220 hp

• Siai 208 , motore Avco Lycoming 0-540 260 hp ,

production 105 units

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

• First or further S205/S208 registration countries: – Italy– Austria– Switzerland– Belgium– U.K.– Holland– France– Spain– Germany– Denmark N– Sweden N – Ethiopia (?)– Kenia (?)– Swaiziland (?)– Zambia (?)– Tunisia (?)– Morocco (?)– Thailand (?) – South Africa– Australia – New Zealand N – U.S.A.– Canada– Mexico (?)– Venezuela N

N = not anymore, ? = No fresh info

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

• A very bad strategy, on the beginning of the 70’s Siai Marchetti was sold to AGUSTA (EFIM group , owned by the Italian state) they stopped all projects and slowed down the civilian aircraft production, only the SF260 was considered strategical as a military trainer .

• The below activities proposed by the Siai project team were blocked:– Production of the two seater Siai 202 , the project was sold in Switzerland and

produced as FFA AS202– Further development of the S205 / S208 project to improve the aerodinamics

characteristics– Final development and production of the twin engine Siai 210 (6 seats)– Development and production of the Siai 206 (6 seats)– Find commercial alternatives Waco (USA) and AISA (Spain) , development of

the South African partner

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting

Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011 • How many are still in flying conditions ….. 100 - 150 ? Why only these ?

OPPORTUNITIES and PROBLEMS• It’s a platform still appreciated for the safety, solidity, stability and comfort, it’s ideal

for IFR and navigation. It’s not a rocket , but it’s reliable and it is still the most comfortable and widest SEP !

• Low purchase cost for a complex SEP• Maintenance

– Italian CAA additional maintenance controls (an Italian mess)– Future availability of AVGAS, possible engine conversion to green fuel ?– Aermacchi (owner of the type certificate) Oma (spare parts warehouse) , 0

SUPPORT BY THEM ! – Not in production spare parts (for example boost electrical pump Adel used in

S205 200 hp) – Spare parts only produced by SIAI– Future mandatory modifications

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

What can we do together ? An owners and pilots club ?

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

Possible initiatives :

• Recognition by Aermacchi, association or clubtype , AOPA help ?

• Pression to Aermacchi to issue urgent bulletins

• Proposal to manage the OMA/Aermacchi S205/S208 parts warehouse ?

• How to find and involve the S205/S208 owners (a owners data base)

• Siai 208 Italian Air Force ??

• Periodical meetings

• Raids, fly together and entertainements

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

S205 / S208 nel web• Hendrik Siai Marchetti site: http://www.siai-marchetti.nl/

• Facebook– Quelli del “205” by Giuseppe Cardarelli– Siai Marchetti 205 208 by Paolo Zecchini

• File sharing site, technical documentation and miscellaneous http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/35184220/193d810a/sharing.html?rnd=6

• Trasvolare (Raid Rome – Tokyo 2001) http://www.trasvolare.it/

• … ?

Siai Marchetti S205 / S208 meeting Lugo di Romagna 17 & 18 september 2011

… and the S205/S08 will continue to fly, arrivederci nel 2012 , where ?