Severn Vale Deanery Parish Treasurers Meeting November 2013 Welcome.

Severn Vale Deanery

Parish Treasurers Meeting

November 2013

Welcome

This Presentation

2. Where that is3. What we can do about it4. Do something different

1. How we got to where we are

Middle Ages:• Feudal lords built churches and retained

priests- Got income from their ‘living’ including

Glebe• Their wellbeing varied, dependent on their

lord- Many lived in considerable poverty

1. How We Got Here

• Before the Reformation churches paid tax to Rome- After the Reformation that went to the

Crown

18th Century:• Queen Anne diverted this revenue into

- “Queen Anne’s Bounty”• Fund applied to improve poor clergy’s income and

repair the parsonages of small livings

• 1818 – Church Building Commissioners

19th Century:

Parliament appointed ‘Commissioners’

• 1836 – Ecclesiastical Commissioners

• 1856 – Those Commissioners were combined

20th Century:

• 1948 – The Church Commissioners

20th Century:

• 1948 – The Church Commissioners

• Manage those historic assets- Invested in stock market shares and property- At end 2012 = £5.5 billion

In 2010:• 18% of the Church’s total running costs: c£203m

- Total costs = just over £1.2 billion- <£750 million came from us, the parishioners

Earlier losses recouped

• New pension scheme after that date:- Funded by us, the parishioners via the ‘Quota’

• General Synod and Parliament agree to:- Cap responsibility to those before 31 Dec 1977

- Clergy pay (Stipend) standardised- Clergy entitled to retire at 65(Going up to 68)

• Clergy Pensions:- Until 1997 Church Commissioners met full cost

20th Century:

• 1948 – The Church Commissioners

• Every parish given a ‘Quota’ of the diocesan costs- Complex formulae used to calculate it, eg:

- Number of people on the Electoral Roll +Relative wealth of the parish, etc

What was the – ‘The Quota’?

Since 2004 – ‘Parish Share’

• Quota abolished & replaced by Parish Share

- Calculated solely on the No. of Priests you have

• ‘Mutual Support’ Introduced- The diocese no longer tells each parish

- They only give a total for each Benefice

- Each Benefice to share that between themselves

- Each parish asked to offer what they can pay

- Those that can, pay more to help those who can’t

Using income from their historic funds,the Church Commissioners pay for (£m)

• Priests’ Stipends (Both parishes & ‘centre’)

• Priests’ Costs (Housing, NI & pension contributions)

• Training & Support (For all ministers)

• ‘Centre’ Lay Staff (Salaries, NI, & pension contributions)

• Diocesan Office Running Costs

• Support to the Parishes

The Diocese pays for:

Pro-rataHouse for duty (HfD) 16,938Non-Stipendiary (NSM) 2,541

Diocesan Base Costs 2010

Full-time priest 35,839

£

* Inflation at 3% per year gives:2013 55,5252014 57,1902015 58,906

Incl NI + Pension. Approx equal to a Head TeacherHousing, etc 10,035Share of other costs 4,939Each full-time priest 50,813*

2005 £1.5m

2012 £1.7m

Not the Problem

RPI +23%

- 8%

2012 General Income £2.0m

The Problem?

Centre Support Costs

2. Where We Are

• Modern Day Equivalent– Our PCC has replaced the ‘Feudal Lord’ as the

one who retains a priest for our church

• Parish Share- Not something to be paid after all our other

costs- A fundamental cost of running our church- It provides our priest’s stipend (‘Living’)

Analysis

• There are 43 dioceses in the C of E

– Gloucester is in the top 10% of the wealthiest dioceses per head

2006 2010

+33%

Analysis

Total Giving to PCCs

Right Direction

31st32

33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

26

27

28

29

30

£6.95/week £9.1m

13

14

15

16

17

19

20

21

22

23

24

25

2627 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

18 th

£9.27/week £12.1m

£5.94/week£5.6m

47%

Giving to Parish Share

2006 2012

The Problem

+3% in 6 years

Wrong Direction

£5.94/week £5.6m

30% Lower

26t

h27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

£5.77/week

57%

Gloucester (39th ranked) £5.94 p/wGloucester donations £5.6m

Profit and LossRegular Giving per Donor in 2012

National Average £7.02 p/wIf replicated in Gloucester £6.6m

Analysis

Newcastle (26th ranked) £6.82 p/w If replicated in Gloucester £6.4m

Plus other income£0.4mTotal income£6.0mLess costs - £7.1mDeficit in 2012£1.1m

Deficit in 2010: £750,000 Deficit in 2011: £800,000

Wrong Direction

Parish Share 2012: £5.6m

If giving to Parish Share had increased as much as

the total income to PCCs it would have been:

Analysis

£6.9m (Total costs £7.1m)

3. What can we do?

i) Increase Income

ii) Reduce Costs

iii) Increase Membership

4. Do Something Different

iii) Increase Membership

i) Increase Income

• 5 Year Plan (2010 – 2015)

– Reduce dependence on Mutual Share

• 5 Year Plan

5 Year Plan

• 5 Year Plan (2010 – 2015)

– Reduce dependence on Mutual Share

Inflation fixed at 3% for 5 yrs

Set target per benefice for 5 yrs (‘Future’ Page of spreadsheet)

For those benefices then paying >90%Make up to 100% over 3 years

For those benefices then paying <90%Halve dependence on Mutual Support over 5 years*

* Will need 30 Benefices to do this to achieve the desired effect

• 5 Year Plan (2010 – 2015)

– Reduce dependence on Mutual Share

i) Increase Income

Parish Giving Scheme

Parish Giving Scheme• Pay by Direct Debit to the diocese

• The diocese collects Gift Aid from HMRC

• Total paid to the parish within 10 days

• Donors asked to include an annual automatic inflation increase

• Donors asked to confirm before it’s applied, so they’re always in control

• Many parishes report up to 30% increase

Spread the Word

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89% of Parish Share goes in ministry costs

Centre Parishes

ii) Reduce CostsRe-organise & Loose Posts

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89% of Parish Share goes in ministry costs

Centre Parishes

If Parish Share doesn’t increase

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iii) Increase MembershipJourneying Together

Worships

Together

Serves the Wider

World

Sharing Christian Faith & Values

Provides a Visible Presence in Every Parish

Applying it to the Parish

Journeying Together

Implementation

Severn Vale Deanery

Applying it to the ParishDiocese of Gloucester Journeying Together 2012 – 2016 Parish of xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Typical Parish Implementation Plan

Mission & Ministry Equipping Leaders

Structures & Buildings Governance & Finance

Effective Ministry in Every Parish

Visible Presence

Worshipping Together

Serving the World

Shared Faith & Values

Provide Social, Fellowship &

Fundraising Events

Give Nurture & Discipleship Training

Provide Variety of Lively Worship. Include

Specials (eg: Harvest, Carols, All-Age, Healing, etc)

Provide the Pastoral Offices

Develop a Fresh Expression?

Use Diocesan & Other Training Courses

Consider Building Re-ordering for

21st Century

Promote Local Justice Matters

Select & Support Specific Charities

Engage with all, Including Local

Families & Schools

Seek Grants/ Maintain &, Develop

Building

Join Parish Giving Scheme

Give Pastoral Care To All

(Include Visiting)

Develop EMEP Leader & Local Ministry Team

Research & Monitor Local Community

For its Preferences

Engage with Local & International Communities

Promote Knowledge of Parishes Finances

Encourage Commitment to

Stewardship

Produce Press Releases & Advertise Activities

Encourage Membership of PCC & Committees

Produce / Use Parish Magazine & Website – Use to Report Activities

Balance Budget

WORSHIPING TOGETHER

-As a united Benefice as well as in each parish-Promote ‘9 parish’ services more widely (5th Sunday)-Explore the provision of transport to all united services

PROVIDING A VISIBLE PRESENCE IN EVERY

COMMUNITY & PARISH-Every parish to be represented in the Local Ministry Team-Identify lay contact for each parish (Focus Minister)-Ensure all activities are effectively publicised to the wider community

SHARING OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH AND VALUES

-Promote personal discipleship through an appropriate learning programme-Make use of ‘Experience Church’ and ‘Experience Eucharist’ to engage members of the local community

SERVING THE WIDER WORLD

-Explore a link with a church in an overseas link diocese

-Develop a ‘Care Response’ programme for the Benefice

Leadon Vale Parishes

Fundraising Through Socials

4. Something DifferentEMEP

Someone known in the parish and committed to working in a team

• Who?• Priest (Full or part-time)

• Reader

• Local Ministry Team Member

• Someone ‘Called out’ by the congregation

A Focus Leader in Every ParishEMEP –

Church at different days/times

Church for different networks

Church in different styles

Church for beginners

Church for disconnected explorers

We’ve Got We Need

Changing Sundays

Changing relationships

Changing cultures

Less faith knowledge

Religion to spirituality

Seed Change in Society

regular attendees(at least monthly)

10%

fringe(less than monthly)

10%

opende-churched

20%

non-churched40%

closedde-churched

20%

New Scenario

come

‘Attraction Model’

and see what arises(What’s God already doing there?)

Emerging Model

go and then stay

Bishop Graham Cray

• A different form of church for our changing culture established primarily for the benefit of people who aren’t yet members of any church

What is a Fresh Expression?Doing Something

Different –A ‘Fresh Expression’

− It will come into being through principles of listening, service, outreach and the making of disciples

− It will help us to grow existing congregations…. and to plant new ones

Messy Church – Everywhere!

Some Examples

Nightstop – Hereford

Some Examples

Sunday 4:6 – Rural Devon(Traditional Format)

Some Examples

Mind The Gap – Cell Church

Some Examples

Somewhere Else - Liverpool

Some Examples

Help

Mission-Shaped Ministry

– A national course available in Gloucester

Is Available

- Pioneer Ministers

!!!

Summary1. How we got here

- Medieval lords built churches and retained priests

- Led to the creation of a fund to subsidise poorer parishes, now administered by the Church Commissioners

- For a time they gave us all a heavy subsidy towards the cost of running our church…. but no longer

- ‘Parish Share’ only based on the number of priests we have

- ‘Mutual Support’ allows for unexpected costs, enabling us to re-assess our part of the Share each year but….

- The Benefice overall still needs to pay the full cost

Summary2. Where we are?

- Historic fund no longer enough to subsidise pensions and working priests, so…

- Parish Share is not an option after our own costs, it’s now the only way to pay our priest’s stipend but….

- We’re currently not paying enough

- Modern law means we can’t put priests into poverty so….

- Some priests are now being made redundant

- We can expect this to lead to amalgamation of parishes or benefices

Summary3. What can we do?

- Increase our income

- Reduce our dependence on Mutual Share

- Adopt the Parish Giving Scheme

- Don’t just rely on members for income but use events like fundraising socials to build our fellowship and get income from others outside our regular congregation

Summary4. Do something different

- ‘Journey Together’ to help each other

- A Focus Leader in every parish to give ‘Effective Ministry’

- Investigate a ‘Fresh Expression’ to build our present congregation and/or plant a new one(s)

Over to Youand your PCC

Any thoughts or ideas?