Sarah Dunsworth's Police Statement

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JIAN GHOMESHI

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ELECTRONICALLY RECORDED INTERVIEW OFSARAH DUNSWORTH

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INTERVIEWED BY CORPORAL SARAH DRUMMOND

AT THE HALIFAX POLICE STATION

ON NOVEMBER 24, 2014

ELECTRONICALLY RECORDED INTERVIEW OF SARAH DUNSWORTH

CORPORAL DRUMMOND: Here we go. Sorry, as I mentioned, it’s recording there.

SARAH DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: Umm, I’m just going to do an audio back-up there, as well. Okay,

so today’s date is the 24th of November, 2014, and it is 11:35 in the

morning, and we are in Halifax, at the Halifax police station. My

name is Corporal Sarah Drummond. Umm, we just -- we have

talked on the phone a few times. We just met. Umm, just one sec

actually. I am just going to put my phone on silent. I’m sorry

about that.

DUNSWORTH: That’s okay.

DRUMMOND: Umm, and as I mentioned, we are being reccrded right now-

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: --so that’s up there, and then, as I said, this is an audio back-up.

Umm, so Sarah, I will just get you to start, can you just give me

your, umm, full name, and justyour age, not your date of birth.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah, it’s Sarah Elizabeth Dunsworth, and I’m 38.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, so as I mentioned, umm, we had spoken, umrn, that

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Toronto had asked -- Toronto Police had asked that, urnm, I

interview you in regards to an investigation that they are doing.

Before we start, umm, it’s going to be a sworn statement.

DUNSWORTI-I: Mrn-hmm.

DRUIvIMOND: So I am just going to read you this and then, umm, Sergeant

Steinberg is going to come in just to swear -- swear that

everything you are going to tell is the truth.

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: And then we will start with the interview, okay? So if you have

any questions about this, or you don’t understand, just don’t

hesitate to interrupt

DUNSWORTH: Okay. .

DRUMMOND: Umm, or ask. Umm, I would ask that -- that you acknowledge that

you understand that this statement is being video and audiotaped,

and that you consent to such a tape being made. Is that

understood?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

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DRIJMMOND: Okay, umm, you must understand that it is a criminal offence

under s.139 and 140 of the Criminal Code to obstruct justice, or to

commit public mischief by making a false statement to police

during an investigation. You must further understand that you

maybe a witness at a trial concerning the events you describe in

this statement, and if, at that time, you recant your statement or

claim it to be false, it can and will be used at that trial, and you

maybe liable to prosecution under s.137 of the Criminal Code for

fabricating evidence.

Finally, you must understand that you are not obliged to give this

statement, and if any person has, bywords, or acts, attempted to

persuade you to provide it, you are to disregard those words or

acts and only give the statement if you freely to choose to do so.

Do you understand your right to choose whether or not to make a

statement?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

DRUMMOND: Do you understand the criminal consequences of making a false

statement?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

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DRUMMOND: Okay, do you understand the fact that this statement will be

videotaped?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

DRUMMOND: Do you choose then to give a statement?

DUNSWORTH: Yes. Yes, I do.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, we are just going to get, umm, Sergeant Steinberg to

come in-

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: --just to -- you can either swear or affirm, depending on what --

DUNSWORTH: Well, what’s the difference?

DRUMMOND: Swearing is on a bible --

DUNSWORTH: Okay, to affirm.

DRUMMOND: Yeah. And if you choose not to swear on the bible, it’s affirming.

DUNSWORTH: Okay. Can you choose other things?

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DRUMMOND: That’s just generally-- that’s just --

DUNSWORTH: It’s just either/or?

DRUMMOND: That’s what’s been offered [inaudible] Like that’s what would be

offered in court.

DUNSWORTH: Right.

DRUMMOND: Yeah.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Hi, there.

DUNSWORTH: Hi, how are you?

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Good thanks. Here we go. And you have a pen, don’tyou?

DRUMMOND: Yeah.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: All right, I’m Sergeant Steinberg.

DUNSWORTH: Hi, nice to meet you. I’m Sarah Dunsworth.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Hi. Okay, I am also a Commissioner of Oaths for the Supreme

Court of Nova Scotia.


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DUNSWORTH: Okay.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: So, ahh, what I’m here tã do is -- is read an oath to you-

DUNSWORTH: Mm-hmm.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: --in relation to similar what Sarah just explained. Umm, so the

oath goes as follows: As the police have explained, your

statement to them is a very important part of their investigation.

Umm, you should understand that it is a serious criminal offence

to make a false statement to police to wrongly accuse someone of

a crime, or to cause the police to enter into an investigation of

another person.

DUNSWORTH: [Nods affirmatively)

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Umm, you should also understand that it is a serious offence to

make an affidavit that is false.

DUNSWORTH: Mm-hmm.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Umm, if you later give a sworn -- if you later give sworn evidence

that it is different from what you, ahh, swear to today, that could

be an offence, another offence. Your statement today might be

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used against you if you ever change, or if you are ever charged

with one of these other offences. Do you understand this caution?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Okay, can I borrow your pen for a second?

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: And your name is spelled with a --

DUNSWORTH: I’m so sorry.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: No, no problem.

DUNSWORTH: It’s Sarah with an H, yeah, with an Fl.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Okay, Sarah with an H, okay.

DUNSWORTH: That’s the real way to spell it

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: And how do you spell your last name?

DUNSWORTH: It’s Dunsworth, D-U-N-S-WO-R-T-H.



COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: R-T-H, okay. So do you, Sarah Dunsworth, swear or solemnly

affirm -- now, you can swear to the bible-

DUNSWORTH: Oh.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: --or you can solemnly affirm.

DUNSWORTH: Oh, I’ll just affirm, that’s fine, yeah.

COMMISSIONEROFOATHS: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: So you are going to solemnly affirm, so I’m just going to cross out

“swear.” I’m just crossing out two portions of this that I will get

you to initial after I-

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: --read it to you, but-- okay, so do you, Sarah Dunsworth, solemnly

affirm that the evidence that you shall give on this investigation

shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

DUNSWORTH: Yes, I do.

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COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Okay, and I’m just going to get you to initial there where --

DUNSWORTH: Initial it--

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: It’s for the swearing of it, that we’re not going to do that. We are

just affirming.

DUNSWORTH: Yet the bible is still very handy.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Yeah, exactly, it worked out well.

DUNSWORTH: And then do I sign here?

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: No, that’s -- that’s for me to sign-

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

COMMISSIONEROF OATHS: --and stamp, so I’ll do that right here. So this is similar to getting

sworn in in court.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah, I understand.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Okay. And I’m just going to put a date on this, too. Okay, and I’ll

leave that with you.


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DRUMMOND: Sure. Thank you.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: Here we go. Nice meeting you.

DUNSWORTH: Nice to meet you, too. Thanks.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: And do you want that --

DRUMMOND: The pen.

COMMISSIONER OF OATHS: The pen, great.

DRUMMOND: Thank you. Okay, so, umm, so Ijust have a few questions for you.

DUNSWORTH: Sure.

DRUMMOND: Umm, so we’ll just start off, ahh, do you know Lucy DeCoutere?

DUNSWORTH: Yes.

DRUMMOND: Okay, and, umm, just explain how long you know her, and how you

know her, and what your relationship is?

DUNSWORTH: I have known Lucy since I think around 2000.

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DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: We worked on a television show together, and we started working

together. It’s like ‘99 or 2000, and that’s-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --when we met.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, so it’s 14 years, and we have, umm, over the years, formed a

really close friendship that extends to not being just work-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --friends, but we’re friends outside of work, as well.

DRUMMOND: Okay, so you have maintained a friendship with her?

DUNSWORTH: A very close friendship, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, do you recall her telling you about an incident

involving Jian Ghomeshi?


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DUNSWORTH: Yes, I do.

DRUMMOND: Okay, so, umm, can you just sort of tell me about that, umm, when

you were told about it, and what you were told, to the best of your

recollection?

DUNSWORTH: Itwas awhile ago. Ithinkitwas 2004.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: It was about 10 years ago. Umm, Lucy is not a big dater.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, she doesn’t go out on a lot of dates, and usually if she does

go on a date, she will call me afterwards and tell me about it, or if

she’s interested in someone, she will talk to me about it. And she

called me after she had gone on a date with, umm, jian. I think

she had gone on more than one, umm, and she had told me that

she was gonna go on these dates, and stuff, but did she call me

after one, like a few days afterwards. Umm, if you knew Lucy,

V this would make sense. She started by laughing and going,

“Is this normal?”

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.


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DUNSWORTH:

DRUMMOND:

DUNSWORTI-{:

And 1 said,

“Oh, oh-oh, what happened?”

And she described an incident in which she had gone to his house,

and that he had ended up puthng his hands on her neck and

choking her.

Mm-hmm.

Umm, and I answered like,

“No, that’s -- it’s really not normal.”

And we talked about the fact that they hadn’t discussed it

before-hand, or that it wasn’t part of any kind of like, you know,

sex play, or anything, and she -- I mean, I don’t think she really

was asking if it was normal, but she was, you know, just reaching

out to a girlfriend.

DRUMMOND:

DUNSWORTH:

Mm-hmm.

“Like this is a weird thing to happen to me”

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: And, umm, you know, and we just talked about it afterwards.

DRUMMOND:


Okay

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DUNSWORTH: I don’t know what else you need to know?

DRUMMOND: Okay, I guess, just sort of go back on that phone call.

DUNSWORTH Sure

DRUMMOND: Or it was a phone call?

DUNSWORTH: It was a phone call.

DRUMMOND: Okay, where were you living at the time when you got the call?

DUNSWORTH: Iwas-

DRUMMOND: Or where were you when you got the call, I guess I should say?

DUNSWORTH: Where was Tin 2004? Well, I live in the south shore-

DRUMMOND Okay

DUNSWORTH: --so I’m definitely here in Nova Scotia, and she was in Toronto.

She was living in Toronto at the time.

DRUMMOND: Okay.



DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, so, umm, you said that you imew previous that she was

going to be going out with --on a date of him?

DUNSWORTH: She had mentioned itto me, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, and then this was after-

DUNSWORTH: Afterwards, yes.

DRUMMOND: So do you remember how long after the date -- do you recall when

the incident was?

DUNSWORTH: I don’t remember. Like how long after the date that-

DRUMMOND: Like was it months, or weeks, or days --

DUNSWORTH: That she told me?

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.


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DUNSWORTH: In my recollection-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTI-I: --it was not that long afterwards, like maybe a week.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: That’s -- thats how I remember --

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: But again, it was ten years ago.

DRUMMOND: Yeah. Okay, right. So, umm, so you are having this phone

conversation, and she said that they had gone -- or had she

described the date previous to that?

DUNSWORTH: She didn’t -- the only thing that I remember her telling me, just

because it made -- you know, it makes an impression when your

friend tells you something weird like this-

DRUMMOND: Yeah.

DUNSWORTI-I: --is that she told me that she went to his house, and that he ended


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up choking her-

DRUMMOND: Okay. V

DUNSWORTH: --and she was really not interested in it

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: And that was it really weird, and it freaked her out.

DRUMMOND: Okay, okay, yeah, Did she talk about like, umm, what was going on

when she got-- when he choked her, or what the context of it was,

or what they were doing when it happened?

DIJNSWORTH: The way -- well, she told me that they didn’t sleep together-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

V

DUNSWORTH: --because I asked that-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: --right away, of course, 11mm, and she -- I said, like,

V ‘Oh, where did this come from?”

And she said,

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“It came from out of nowhere,

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: So that-- that’s sort of all I remember.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: And we have discussed it since then obviously-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --so it’s -- yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, actually and then I will ask you that, so have you -- so

have you had any recent communication? So you said you guys

discussed it later in years or --

DUNSWORTI-I: We have -- we have talked about it off and on over the last ten

years.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: We actually were interviewed by him together-

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DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --on his radio show. And we talked about it, of course, before that

happened-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --and it was really awkward, umm, but yeah, it has been an open-

it’s not like we dwell on it, or talk about it all the time, but if he

comes up in conversation -- I mean he is a famous guy in Canada,

and we listen to his radio show, so if he comes up, you know, we

have -- we have talked about it, not like a huge issue, but just like

it’s a fact of something that happened.

DRUMMOND: Right, okay. So that is one of the questions that they wanted me to

ask. So have you -- you have, and you were just saying, so it was --

have you had contact with Ghomeshi yourself?

DUNSWORTH: He inteMewed us on a radio show. I don’ t remember when it

was. It was after that incident, and -- I don’t know, ten years ago,

eight years ago maybe.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, but just professionally like that. I haven’t met him, umm,

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outside of that one incident. Oh, I’m sure I’ve seen him at like

Gemini awards, and stuff like that. I probably met him at the

Gemini’s one year, but we’re certainly not in any contact, okay.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: It would just be a professional, “Hello.”

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, so I guess like the biggest contact you had is with-- doing an

interview radio -- or a radio interview?

DUNSWORTH: A radio interview, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, and that-- you said that you think that that was a couple of

years after the incident?

DUNSWORTH: Oh, my gosh, I honestly can’t --

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Itwas awhile ago, like 2006 maybe.

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DRUMMOND: Okay, and it was you and Lucy getting interviewed that day?

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: And was that for the TV show?

DUNSWORTR: That s because, of Trailer Park, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, okay. Umm, I guess we can explain that, too. So the TV

show you guys were on together was

DUNSWORTI-I: We work on Trailer Park Boys together, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: And we often -- because our -- we are friends on the show-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: ‘ --like our characters are friends, and we’re sort of paired up

together.

DRUMMOND: Mrn-hrnm.

DUNSWORTH: So we often get asked to do publicity-


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DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --or go to different events together as -- as a team.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: And also because we’re friends, and it’s more fun, that’s the other

part, yeah

DRUMMOND: And that’s the TV show that you met her on?

DUNSWORTH: That’s where we met, yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay. Umm, so then we’ll go back, and the question was, do you

have -- have you had any recent communication with her, umm, to

discuss the original incident with -- or the incident that she had

with Mr. Ghomeshi?

DUNSWORTH: Umm, well obviously I’ve talked to her because she’s one of my

best friends-

DRUMMOND: Right

DUNSWORTH: --and I talk to her all the time.

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DRUMMOND: Right.

DUNSWORTH: And she is about to embark bn this huge thing. She told me about

this-

DRUMMOND: Mm hmm.

DUNSWORTH: --before she went public, umm, just to even sort ofwarn me.

DRUMMOND: Right.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, I don’t know in what detail we have discussed what

happened. I don’t think we have really need -- we didn’t really

need to touch back on the details of what happened.

DRUMMOND: Right.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, it’s just a fact-- you know, it’s a fact that as between two

friends that I know about the incident.

DRUMMOND: Right. Right.

DUNSWORTH: So it has been mentioned, but not discussed. Does that make

se?


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DRUMMOND: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: Yeah. So I mean, yes, it is brought up that it happened, and then

when -- I guess my understanding, so before she went public with

it, you had talked to her --

DUNSWORTH: She told me that she was going to --

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, she told me that she was going to go -- come forward-

DRUMMOND: Right

DUNSWORTH: --and that she was doing an interview about -- or the incident that

had happened with her, and that if she was able to, she was

probably going to go press charges.

DRUMMOND: Okay. All right Umm, and then in saying that, did you have an

independent recollection of the incident, umm, DeCoutere had

told you about before the recent contact with her?

DUNSWORTH: Yes, of course. Yeah.


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DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: So as soon as I heard about the allegations against Ghomeshi-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTI-l: --I was pretty sure that they were true because I had had this

previous imowledge about him.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: And when that all became public, Lucy and I, I think we probably

talked the day after.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: Umm, he got fired from CBC and we talked about, you imow, what

it could possibly-

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: --be about

DRUMMOND: Okay.

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DUNSWORTH: Butyeah, that’s-- sorry, I have sort lost my train of thought

half-way through --

DRUMMOND: No, no, no, that’s fine. Yeah, no, the question was, thatyour --your

memory of what she told you a long time ago, if that was

Cinaudible) --

DUNSWORTH: Oh, yeah, no, no, it’s just --

DRUMMOND: Any conversation --

DUNSWORTH: It’s the thing I know about, yeah, no, it was -- it hasn’t -- we

haven’t touched on it again.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: Yeah.

DRUMMOND: Okay, umm, Ithinic that’s --those are all my questions.

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: Umm, is there anything else important that you think, umm-

DUNSWORTH: I don’t think so, no.


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DRUMMOND: --that I didn’t ask you about, or anything?

DUNSWORTH: Umm, I don’t think so. No. I mean, unless you need to make any --

is there anything that you can think ofthatl should --

DRUMMOND: No, no, no, no, that’s fine.

DUNSWORTI-{: Okay. Umm, it’s-- Imean, honestly the incident that Lucytold me

about, it stood out in my mind because -- and the reason I have

always remembered it is because (a) it’s a really weird thing to do.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: Like that is a really weird and abrupt thing for a person to do on a

date, especially when they are not, you know -- there is no

discussion of it.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.

DUNSWOP.TH: And also, and just like because Lucy being Lucy, she doesn’t date a

whole lot, and she doesn’t, umm -- yeah, she doesn’t go on many

dates. So it’s like of course I remember this as a --

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm.


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DUNSWORTH: --you know, it was a big event for her, I guess.

DRUMMOND: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

DUNSWORTH: 11mm, because she doesn’t see very many people.

DRUMMOND: Right, right, okay. Umm, you had mentioned that you said that you

thought she went on -- that she had gone on more than one date

with him?

DUNSWORTH: Tm pretty sure she went on more than one date with him.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: 11mm, I don’t know how serious the dates were.

DRUMMOND: Right.

DUNSWQRTH: I think she went out-- she either went out with him once before it

happened, or once after it happened, and I can’t-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: I can’t remember which it was, but I think it was before, she-



DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: ---went on a date with him before, and they went out somewhere.

And then the second time she went over to his house-

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: --and this is where the incident happened.

DRUMMOND: Okay, and she didn’t tell you about anything else that happened on

the other dates?

DUNSWORTH: Ahhh, all I remember is just like the sense that she wasn’t really

that into him.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: And that she --

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: You iniow, that that kind of sealed the deal-

DRUMMOND: Right

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DUNSWORTH: --is that he was like really arrogant. I think she described him as

arrogant.

DRUMMOND: Okay. And-- and lam actually, Jam just thinking this now, too,

sorry. Umm, then when you guys -- when you went and did the

radio show, you had mentioned you guys had talked about it. Did

it come up then, too?

DUNSWORTH: Well, not with him.

DRUMMOND: No, no. Clearly (inaudiblej.

DUNSWORTH: No, that would be something. Umm, I think that we just touched

on the fact that they had gone on a date and that it was really like

bad and weird

DRUMMOND: Right

DUNSWORTH: --and that it was going to be awkward to be interviewed by him.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTF{: And it was awkward,

DRUMMOND: Okay.


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DUNSWORTH: Itwas avery awkward interview. He was obviously like

extremely uncomfortable with us being there. And people who

didn’t imow anything about what had gone between he and Lucy

actually listened to the radio show and they called me afterwards

and they were like

Why was that like whywas he so rude to you guys7

DRUMMOND: Oh, really?

DUNSWORTH: - And I was like, “1 don’t imow,” but...

DRUMMOND: Okay, how did you find it rude or awkward? .Like do you --

DUNSWORTH: Oh, he was just really rude. He was really -- he wasn’t -- he

• obviously wasn’t interested in interviewing us even slightly. He

didn’t want us to be there.

DRUMMOND: Okay.

V DUNSWORTH: I don’tknowwhywe even--I don’tknowwhywe agreedto do it

I don’t know why we were asked to do it, and it was --

DRUMMOND: Okay.

DUNSWORTH: it was really uncomfortable.

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DRUMMOND: Okay. All right. That’s -- those are all my questions.

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: Its abOut almost S to 12:00, I am just going to turn the audio off.

DUNSWORTH: Okay.

DRUMMOND: I am just-- I’ll leave you here. I am just going to go turn the video

off though and Ill come back. Okay, just give me one second.

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34ELECTRONICALLY RECORDED INTERVIEW OF SARAh DUNSWORTH

HCERTIFICATE OF TRANSCRIPT

I, Arlene Gorewicz, certify that this document is a true

and accurate transcript of the videotaped statement of

Sarah Dunsworth

on November 2Lt 2014

to the best of my skill and ability.

January28, 2016

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Date Arlene Gorewicz


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