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Romans 7:13-25 2. Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A. Yes. B. No, he’s talking about himself before he became a Christian. C. No, he’s giving a hypothetical example of what it would be like to live a Christian life under the law to show the inadequacy of the law and the adequacy of the Spirit. 3. No textual problems 4. 2 translation problems A. In v. 14 he switches from the past tense to the present. B. In vv. 9, 10, 14, 17, 20, 24, 25 he uses the emphatic pronoun egw but he does not in the most personal verses (15- 16) and the egw in v. 9 is probably hypothetical (Phil 3:5). 5. Genre: Didactic 6. Purpose: see question 2. 7. Context: Paul is talking about the relationship
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Page 1: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

Romans 7:13-252. Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe

the normal Christian life?A. Yes.B. No, he’s talking about himself before he became a Christian.C. No, he’s giving a hypothetical example of what it would be like to

live a Christian life under the law to show the inadequacy of the law and the adequacy of the Spirit.

3. No textual problems4. 2 translation problems

A. In v. 14 he switches from the past tense to the present.

B. In vv. 9, 10, 14, 17, 20, 24, 25 he uses the emphatic pronoun egwbut he does not in the most personal verses (15-16) and the egw

in v. 9 is probably hypothetical (Phil 3:5).5. Genre: Didactic6. Purpose: see question 2. 7. Context: Paul is talking about the relationship between faith and the law.8. Parallels: None9. Other related passages:

Page 2: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Page 3: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Page 4: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state

Page 5: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Page 6: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable

Page 7: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Page 8: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Page 9: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle

Page 10: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much

Page 11: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much

Page 12: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Page 13: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

Page 14: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Page 15: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Page 16: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

Page 17: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Page 18: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Page 19: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin

Page 20: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin

Page 21: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins

Page 22: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Page 23: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Page 24: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life

Page 25: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory

Page 26: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

Page 27: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

~Xn

Page 28: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

~Xn

Various Holy Spirit

Page 29: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

~Xn

Various Holy Spirit Very present

Page 30: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

~Xn

Various Holy Spirit Very present Very absent

Page 31: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

5. Other related passages:

Text Topic Other Rom 7 Conclusion

Gal 1:13-14

Phil 3:5-6

Pre Xn state Proud & satisfied

Miserable ~pre Xn

Rom 8:23

1 Cor 9:27

Struggle Much Much Xn

Rom 1:18-20

2 Tim 3:2-13

~Xn attitude toward God

Hates God and his law

Loves God’s law

~~Xn

Rom 6:14

1 Cor 10:13

Sin Beats sin Sin wins ~Xn

Rom 8:1-39

Phil 4:13

Gal 4:6

Gal 5:24

Xn life Joyous victory Miserable struggle

~Xn

Gal 5:16

Romans 8:4

Holy Spirit Very present Very absent ~Xn

Page 32: Romans 7:13-25 2.Is Paul talking about his present experience? Does this passage describe the normal Christian life? A.Yes. B.No, he’s talking about himself.

The absence of any mention of the Holy Spirit in this passage shows that Paul is not describing his present Christian life, but is giving a vivid, imaginary example of a person trying to please God by living according to the law. His point is the same as in chapter 3, that the law cannot justify anyone (3:20), as in chapter 4, that Abraham was saved by faith, not by works of the law (4:13), as in chapter 5, that the law only magnifies sin (5:20), and as in 6, that when people are under the law, sin is their master.

Paul’s argument in chapter 7 culminates in chapter 8 where he says,“For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.” (8:3-4)