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Contents

1 About Manjaro IRc channel 5

2 Many IRC channels !!! 6#manjaro . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6#manjaro-br . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6#manjaro-de . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6#manjaro-fr . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6#club-manjaro . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6#linuxpark . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7#manjaro-nl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7#manjaro-ru . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7#manjaro-es . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

3 How to Avoid Arguments in IRC 8

4 Registration 17Use of registration. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17How to registrate to freenode. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17Login intoo Your Account ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17

5 Secure your IRC name 20Secure your registrated name. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20Ask for an secure cloak . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21

6 What The hell…I get Trolling !!!! 22Why not set #manjaro registrated ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22Golden rule about Trolling . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22how to ignore ignorant trolling. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23

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Welcome to Manjaro IRC Magazine.

Hi ,This is an bit of support magazine for Manjaro IRC channel.Is not Written profesional. Sorry its mayby unclear on someparts, or clear enough.But toomuchamaturistic.The point is you get some info on standing. It can help to be integrating intoo the IRC channel.The #manjaro irc channel is stil growing. And weekly it get more users. But doesnt say they use all#manjaro. It is possible they use different operating system like Arch.Unlikely mayby to other channels. Freedom has an center in this community. But thats less or moretrue.Rules as set is just simple.

1. Don’t Troll, Flood, Long text on the channel2. Use an proper www.pastebin.com , www.picpaste.com for video : www.tinypic.com3. Treath people nicely , As they must treath you nicely too.4. Some dificulty on people set it to /ignore and notice an op or problem with OP justdo /msg MemoServ SEND ringo32 issue or [email protected]

5. Dont be afraid to apologize an person when you say something wrong.

Not to much ?At the end it must be an place to return for everyone !

1 About Manjaro IRc channel

Manjaro irc is an support channel to support Manjaro Linux.Also we have an More off-topic channel @ #manjaro-talkWhen you log into the standard client for the first time or from main channel.Can be confused.Some hasty ness people has to see where they loged in at first place.Some people are very serious and some less. But an touch to see first whats going on is an goodidea to follow.Mayby #manjaro channel is more for support people likes most to hanging around on that placeand sometimes it used to be go offtopic aswell. Ether i try to promote to talk more offtopic at the#manjaro-talk.Is just sometimes with hastyness things dont get solved. Patiend mostly of time will solve things.But its matter of taking some time.I just want to balance it two channels because, Some people find it anoying they log in very quickwith out asking the basics.good way is alway look intoo the tabs look on the main topic when needed. And follow it where youare to the right channel.When you got an Issue try to do like this:

hi, I am … , i have got an issue with (issue) , Is someone here to help me ?

But wait atleast for 5 minutes , Mayby in 10 minutes could be possible someone respond whenchannel is bit of empty.Because sometimes people comes ask help, and minute later they are gone.

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2 Many IRC channels !!!

To have an Wide support on languages there is always an need to have also on language based IRCchannels !So it means not everyone can speak english or in nature not so good (as me)So you have a lot channel to connect. Some are good supported and some not.It depend. Meaning of this is also to promote and support those channels :)

#manjaro

Main Support Channel ! Most people from all country sit here mostly.

#manjaro-br

Brasilian support channel. Mostly here people speak Brazil portuguese but propably as europeanportugese you also welcome there!

#manjaro-de

German IRC channel

#manjaro-fr

France irc channel

#club-manjaro

Italian Manjaro channel

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#linuxpark

Turkish Manjaro irc channel

#manjaro-nl

Dutch irc channel

#manjaro-ru

Russian irc channel

#manjaro-es

Spanish channelSome channel can be on low user base but if you come back and stays im sure the channel cangrowth thanks to you !

3 How to Avoid Arguments in IRC

Method 1 of 4: Assuming the Best

1 Start from the position of assuming good faith. Typing words is never the same as face-to-facecommunications. When we cannot see each other, we lose a substantial amount of our ability tocommunicate. Without seeing the wink, the smiling eyes and the hand signals, for example, you caneasily miss that someone is just joking rather than stating something seriously. Sometimes you cantell because you know the personality of the person typing but other times, well, words on a screencan seem quite different from the intention with which they were put across. If you assume first thatno ill intent was meant, you can probably unravel lots of problems before they begin.<

• Ask if you don’t understand something said. Much woe comes from misattribution of meaningor making up people’s feelings from their bland statements. An example of asking for clarifi-cation might be: “When you said X, I took this to mean you feel I am wrong. I feel bad if youmisunderstood what I was trying to say - perhaps you’d like me to explain what I meant moreclearly?”

2 If someone is deliberately provoking you, try to look beyond the provocation to find the source oftheir pain. In some cases, this will be enough to warn you to back off from what is unlikely to be awell constructed discussion. It can also allow you have some compassion for the challenger; maybethis person is in a bad situation and taking it out on others, rather than being a bad person. Therecan be various reasons behind nasty words, many of which are about the speaker’s own state of mindor confusion.

• If someone feels embarrassed, ashamed or scared, they might be defensive to ward off feelingsof inferiority or fear of being attacked.

• If someone feels that their personal values or moral beliefs have been threatened, they mayrespond with aggression. Topics that often cause heated argument include gay marriage, stay-at-home moms versus working moms, unemployment subsidies and gun control laws.

• If someone is pre-disposed to being angry a lot of the time, it’s probable that they will be angryin IRC. Whether it’s a bad habit, a mental disorder or just the only approach this person everuses when online, you cannot argue with a highly angry person and come out unscathed. Inthis case, the moderators will likely need to be involved to keep this person out of the playpen.-Watch out for people obsessed with blaming. High conflict individuals are prone to blamingothers in a very intense way, using volatile words and accusations, often rapid-fire. Most times,this “blaming” is well out of proportion to something said or done. Realize that this person isnot going to listen to reason as they’re only interested in making you seem blame-worthy.

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3 Be aware that you are likely to be mingling with people from different cultures and differentcountries. Hot buttons for you politically or culturally may not be hot buttons for people livingelsewhere. As a result, they may unwittingly be pressing your buttons without meaning anythingnegative, it’s just that the issue isn’t so “hot potato” where they come from. For example, somecountries don’t treat politics very seriously and find it unfathomable how politically touchy people inother countries can get.

Method 2 of 4: Putting Space Between You and Your Response

1 Avoid flying off the handle. First, know yourself. If you recognize that you are easily angered, beon the alert for the usual signs that warn you you’re entering this state. You need to recognize thatit is a reaction rather than a considered action, and in many cases, you may simply need to drop outof the chat room and come back later when you’ve regained your composure.- When you are tired, anxious, hungry or already angry about something else, you are more likely tobe argumentative than at other times. If any of these states are an issue when you’re in the chatroom, think about taking a break and coming back later.- Competitiveness may set off a desire to react fast. If there seems to be an escalating discussionthat appears to require a “win”, this can cause out-of-control commenting that slides quickly intoargumentation.- Be alert to feeling like you need to set someone else straight, punish another user or when you feelwhat has been said is unfair. Feeling any of these ways can lead you into arguing.- Notice when you feel you have a justified comment, but are at risk of using a mean or unfair wayof relaying it. Cooling down may be needed before you can compose yourself and make your pointfactually.

2 Think before typing. Do you even need to respond? Don’t assume that responding is your defaultmode; saying nothing might be the better option. And if you do respond, reflect a little. Say yourresponse out loud to gauge its worth: speak it out loud to yourself, to a pet, or towards the computermonitor instead of taking the time to type it out. If you can’t think of any positive words, restrictyourself from typing anything.

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- Avoid name-calling or character assassination. Once you fall into this type of response, you arebaited and the arguing can get very nasty. There is also a risk of saying something defamatory.- If you’re worried that you regret what you’re about to type, then your subconscious has alreadywarned you. Any doubt means leave it out.- Remember that anything that goes online, stays online. For a very, very long time.3 Find constructive ways to respond. There are various ways to respond should you choose to do so.These will depend on the context, how you feel about responding and what you intend by way of anend result. Some of the more common possibilities for responding include:- Neutral comments can work sometimes. For example, a simple “thank you for your concern”without further explanation shows that you will not be drawn into further discussion.- Simply make it clear that you’ve heard the other person. In some cases, this is sufficient. Forexample, “Thanks for sharing that. I wasn’t aware that things were so tough for you.”If you are in a position to discuss the matter further off the public record, sometimes letting theperson know that you’re available for a private chat or email can resolve an issue. This can alsoallow others seeing the argument to pressure the challenger to accept such a resolution where this isappropriate. Only take this option if you feel strong enough to deal with the challenger in anotherforum.- Point out the bad behavior, never call the person bad. In some situations, pointing directly at theargumentative attitude can bring an end to it. For example, “I appreciate that you’re passionateabout this topic but that isn’t an excuse for using insults.”4 Apologize. Sometimes “sorry” is all that is needed. You said something stupid, dopey, thoughtlessor even outrageous. It happens sometimes. Apologize and move on. For example: “I’m sorry I saidthat. It was stupid of me.” In most cases, avoid adding an excuse—-it reduces the impact of yourapology and can sound insincere.- “Sorry” can be used to acknowledge another’s pain. So, you didn’t actually cause the issue beingvented about, but it can sometimes soothe the other person if you say something like “I’m sorry tohear that this has upset you. I wish it had been different for you.”5 Let the facts speak. If something has been said that is factually incorrect, correct it, especiallywhere the inaccuracy mars your reputation or the reputation of others/your company/your brand,etc. This is one time when not responding is risky. However, this type of response can be done in avery matter-of-fact way without disparaging the other person and it should consist of nothing morethan the correction, leaving a firm record that you provided the right facts.

Method 3 of 4: Resolving the Matter Quickly and Fairly

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1 Message a channel op privately. The op can then take action by telling the people in question tostop arguing. If the people in question ignore the ops, the ops may step in and use controls, such assilencing or kicking.

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2 Put the challenger on ignore. Arguments continue when someone adds flames to the fire, orwhen they put their opinions into the situation. The IRC command to ignore someone is /ignore[nickname]. When you ignore someone, you are unable to see what they are writing, but they andeveryone else can see what you are writing.It can be useful to state that you are refusing to continuing to engage with the challenger until theyreturn to speaking civilly. This puts the challenger on alert that you really mean what you say, thenyou can use the ignore command and really do what you said you would.

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3 Chat with other people who aren’t arguing. Be the stronger person and show others that thechallenger is not getting to you. Have fun chatting with others… isn’t that the purpose of being ina chat room? When the challenger sees you not give in to what they are saying, they might dropthe fight or leave the chat room themselves. When they do, pat yourself on the back.

Method 4 of 4: Practicing Self Control

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1 Take a break. Close your IRC client/window or change your nickname to your “away” nicknameand step away from the computer for awhile. You won’t miss anything significant while you’re gone,so don’t attach yourself to the chat room. Read a book, talk to your friends on the phone, or getoutside of the house for a few hours.Try deep breathing. Deep breathing can be helpful because it causes you to slow down, be presentand focus on the breathing cycle rather than the arguing.Use self soothing to calm yourself. Self soothing techniques can be used to good effect where youfeel that you have been somewhat bludgeoned, blamed or abused, to restore a sense of self anddistance. Things to help can be to take a walk somewhere that you love being, eating somethingyou enjoy and savoring it slowly or running a bath filled with bubbles and your favorite scent.2 Know how long it takes you to calm down. Don’t go back to the IRC until this period of time hastruly passed. The amount of time is likely to vary dependent on the severity of the arguing—-likely itwill be longer if you felt your personal beliefs were attacked, while making you look silly as the buttof a joke probably requires less time for you to get over. It’s very personal and you’ll know when youfeel steady and calm again.Use self distancing. By removing yourself mentally from what is happening, you can take a detachedview of the event and witness it as if were a play or story. You won’t feel the aggression or angerwhen detached.

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3 Avoid straying into arguments. If you are not a part of the situation, ignore it completely and don’tvoice opinions or comments about it. One comment may get you a free ticket of trouble. Even aftera person leaves, don’t say anything negative that is relevant towards the person or situation.- Have a side, private conversation with a trusted friend if you really feel the need to discuss whathas been said on the channel with someone who was present. This will give you a safer outlet to letoff steam than doing so in public. Just be sure to choose someone you really trust.- What if the person you wish to respond to isn’t in IRC? Resist the temptation to gripe aboutthat person with other IRC users. Will Bowen, founder of the Complaint Free World movement,recommends that you quit gossiping unless what you have to say is a) positive and b) somethingyou’d say if the person were present. Most times your griping will get back to that person and caninflame things.

Tips

• If you believe that you can not handle being civil, it’s for the better if you leave the chat room.Leaving is a better option than being kicked or banned. Leaving will not make it seem likeyou’re giving up, but it’s giving a signal that you want nothing to do with the fight.

• Do not feed trolls, under any circumstances. Internet trolls are people who are there to causetrouble. They feed off other people’s comments and “grow” stronger from them by respondingback. Ignore the trolling behavior and let a channel op handle the situation.

• IRC chat rooms will be different from one another, depending what rules and regulations areset for each channel. Respect all ground rules for the specific channel you are in.

• Continuation of arguing and ignoring the word “stop” may end up with a kick or ban. Youmay be silenced for awhile, so that only the channel ops can discuss matters with you.

Warnings

• The reality is that some people are deliberately provocative. Often called a troll, flamer ors*$%-stirrer (or, more officially, a high conflict individual), this person actually derives pleasure

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from distressing other online users. Don’t waste your energy on such a character. You are bestgetting this person brought to the attention of the moderators and having them blocked.

*Main source * : http://www.wikihow.com/index.php?title=Avoid-Arguments-in-IRC&utm_source=wikiHow&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=related_test

4 Registration

Use of registration.

Manjaro uses the freenode servers for his IRC channel. You are freely to choose to registrate youname or not.To registrate an name has an good use also. It goes about your personal state of name.Peopele recognize you when you use the irc a lot !

How to registrate to freenode.

1 login to IRC. Depend also from which source. Did you login with the standard hexchat from anmanjaro iso or from mainsite makes an difference. Did you from hexchat, you have an standard namelike Manjaro_user or manjaro-k..from website of manjaro you can pick standard your name. first you do is to find the name is inuse, in de corner you fill in /msg nickserv info “user_name” .Then you can find out if that nameis in use or not.When you use hexchat and named manjaro_user or you change from login name atmanjaro_website. /nick “name”Then you are temporarely online with that name.

1. Make your name hardend.,

• /msg nickserv register your_password your_email_address

Check your e-mail and verify your account. After you register, you will not be able to identify toNickServ until you have verified your registration. To do this, check your email for an accountverification code.see in your email box of to use it :)put it in the irc screen and verify.

Login intoo Your Account !• 1 if you use manjaro.org website to login or just on irc client and /nick (name) you do“/msg nickserv identify AccountName Your-Password”

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• 2 Configure Hexchat :

1. Open the Network List (Ctrl + S)

2. The freenode network (perhaps written as FreeNode) may already exist; find it in the list, andclick on Edit.

3. In the Username field, enter your primary nick. A grouped nick will not work.

4. In the SASL password field, enter your NickServ password.

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If everything was configured correctly, you should see a SASL authentication successful message whenyou connect. You will already be identified, so you don’t need to do this again.

1. there are a lot of programs to do, check : https://freenode.net/sasl/to configure your client with Sasl.

5 Secure your IRC name

You think by registrating your namen is Secure ?Thats not always true. :)Someone can always log intoo your name, not by password but just with the name.if you are on the same channel is hardly to kicked out or change.There is an way to secure your name more.For this Make sure you have your client proper Setup of Sasl.otherwise its mayby to late or what ever it is.then your name get converted to guest.

Secure your registrated name.

First of all. You must use you nick to keep it running as it should, because someone can ask it todrop and take your name. So to keep your nick, you must continue using it and log intooyour account.Or you are offline. Someone use your nick with /nick (yournick) you log intoothe channel andyour nick gets the second name of your irc client.You can ask him to change is nick, if it doesnt want to you can enforce by do it by :

/msg NickServ RELEASE yournick yourpassword

Then after that Force you can relogin to your nick with /nick (nick)But a proper way is to secure your Name. So no one else cant abuse it directly.configure like this:

/msg NickServ SET ENFORCE ON

If you login to your nick you get 30sec time to login, otherwise your nick reverted to ‘guestNick’Normally in Sasl login it wil do ok. if you do manually you must do it in the 30sec time range.So none else cant use the nick of yours :)

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Ask for an secure cloak

When you login to your irc you have an cloak. So people can see which network or ip you whereusing.Some people just dont want to show it it.Just go to /join #freenode , And ask for an ‘”unaffiliated”’ cloak.Make sure you configured your client properly and make use of Sasl.See chapter Registristration , or see : https://freenode.net/sasl/if you not do it to configure properly people can stil see your home cloak.

6 What The hell…I get Trolling !!!!

Trolling in Internet fora is very bad and its actual.On IRC it counts the sameway, it get trolled te reasons why, you never known.for those people have different kind of reasons to do it.

1. They are unhappy, and mad.2. To ditch an distro, because they dont like it.3. Just make fun out of people.

Its not good and i cant speak it for them the correct way.Its hardly to take on. Some way there are groups they do it and some do it alone. its very technical, because they dont use there own IP.

Why not set #manjaro registrated ?

Its very idealistic to registrate the support channel. Some people or with it and some not.Problem is always, the unregistred channel needs support to. Since most people hangs on registredchannel. Unregistred channel dont gets support.And te Trolling is not removed. Because its still there.What ever you do. It never get fixed at the end. He stil get trolling you !

Golden rule about Trolling

Its dificult to fix an proper solution, but an certain golden rule is for sure :

‘’ Never feed te trolls”

This way you get some part of trolling out of the way. But does’nt say the trolling is fixed :)

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how to ignore ignorant trolling.

Solution might not be straight.But best way is if you got Unwanted invitations or you get some unwanted messages org bad behavingword you get ‘mad’ if it mayby on your adres you never know’s.Please do as follow :Notice an OP or someone on this behaviourlike Ringo32 ahd42 zenther as example or ask someone with OP rights on channel.if someone not there for moment.you can do :/msg MemoServ SEND ringo32 Send your message of issue to notice it.Meanwhile to fix it for your self by doing /ignore !There are two ways :

/ignore “TrollNick”/ignore *@Troll.host.com or ip

This way it stop noticing you and you can do further on your own.further some usefull links:http://superuser.com/questions/7111/there-is-any-irc-command-to-ignore-a-personhttp://blog.freenode.net/2007/05/silence-is-golden-handling-trolls-and-spammers/

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This is made for support IRC channel basicly.But do you like writing and build things up on the writings.dont hasitate to contact me.email at ringo [at] manjaro [dot] org !

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