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Page 1: ``Progressive Wealth Taxation'' by Saez and Zucman

“Progressive Wealth Taxation”by Saez and Zucman

discussion by Wojciech KopczukColumbia University

BPEA, September 2019

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Plan

1 Wealth base estimates

2 Implementation issues

3 Rate and responses

4 Alternatives

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Wealth concentration series

Improvement relative to Saez and Zucman (2016)

partially addressing overestimating fixed incomeextended estate tax multiplier series with improved mortality assumptions(though ad hoc unit of observation adjustment)

Very large discrepancy though with Smith, Zidar and Zwick (2019) thatmakes additional adjustments to capitalization of fixed income andequities

Unit of observation issues; tax units used here, but unclear why — thatmakes a large difference for levels (but it can’t explain trend differences)

The bottom line: wealth base estimates should be treated as suggestivenot definitive; reasonable changes in assumptions can yield bigdifferences. Still, closer to reconciliation.

No easy way to put standard errors, but these are imputation exerciseswith a lot of judgment calls.

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Saez-Zucman (2019)Figure 2: US Wealth Inequality and Its Evolution

(a) Top 0.1% wealth share

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Estate multiplier (adjusted)

SCF+Forbes 400

Capitalization

Revised capitalization

(b) Bottom 90% wealth share

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Notes: The top panel depicts various estimates of share of wealth held by the top 0.1% of family tax units in the

United States: (1) survey data combining the SCF and the Forbes 400 rich list, (3) the capitalization method

of Saez and Zucman (2016) updated to 2016 and improved upon in Piketty, Saez, and Zucman (2018), (3) the

capitalization method with adjustments to capitalizing interest income and valuing pass-through businesses, (4)

the estate multiplier method from Kopczuk and Saez (2004) updated in Saez and Zucman (2016), smoothed

out after 2000, adjusted for more accurate mortality differentials by wealth from Chetty et al. (2016) and

converted into tax units (instead of individual adults). See Figure 3 below for a step by step decomposition

of these adjustments. The bottom panel depicts estimates of the share of wealth held by the bottom 90% of

families (households for the SCF) (no estate multiplier estimates are available for this measure). To improve

comparability, the SCF estimates exclude consumer durables and add back the wealth of the Forbes 400 which

are excluded by design from the SCF.

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Wealth concentration series

Improvement relative to Saez and Zucman (2016)

partially addressing overestimating fixed incomeextended estate tax multiplier series with improved mortality assumptions(though ad hoc unit of observation adjustment)

Very large discrepancy though with Smith, Zidar and Zwick (2019) thatmakes additional adjustments to capitalization of fixed income andequities

Unit of observation issues; tax units used here, but unclear why — thatmakes a large difference for levels (but it can’t explain trend differences)

The bottom line: wealth base estimates should be treated as suggestivenot definitive; reasonable changes in assumptions can yield bigdifferences. Still, closer to reconciliation.

No easy way to put standard errors, but these are imputation exerciseswith a lot of judgment calls.

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Smith-Zidar-Zwick (2019)Figure 1: Wealth Concentration in the United States

A. Top 0.1% Share of Total Wealth

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ealth

(%)

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Baseline Saez and Zucman (2016)Estate tax data (Kopczuk and Saez, 2004)Our Preferred EstimateRaw SCFRaw SCF + Forbes 400

B. Wealth Shares of the Bottom 90%, P90-99, and Top 1%

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lth (%

)

1965 1970 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010 2015

P0-90 - Baseline P0-90 - Our Preferred EstimateP90-99 - Baseline P90-99 - Our Preferred EstimateP99-100 - Baseline P99-100 - Our Preferred Estimate

Notes: This figure plots the share of total household wealth for different wealth groups. Panel A graphs thetop 0.1% share of net household wealth from Saez and Zucman (2016), Kopczuk and Saez (2004), and theSCF, as well as our preferred specification. Panel B plots the share of net household wealth of the bottom90%, P90-99, and the top 1% of the wealth distribution under the baseline and our preferred alternatives.

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Wealth concentration series

Improvement relative to Saez and Zucman (2016)

partially addressing overestimating fixed incomeextended estate tax multiplier series with improved mortality assumptions(though ad hoc unit of observation adjustment)

Very large discrepancy though with Smith, Zidar and Zwick (2019) thatmakes additional adjustments to capitalization of fixed income andequities

Unit of observation issues; tax units used here, but unclear why — thatmakes a large difference for levels (but it can’t explain trend differences)

The bottom line: wealth base estimates should be treated as suggestivenot definitive; reasonable changes in assumptions can yield bigdifferences. Still, closer to reconciliation.

No easy way to put standard errors, but these are imputation exerciseswith a lot of judgment calls.

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Bricker et al (2015, working paper version)

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30%

35%

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1989 1992 1995 1998 2001 2004 2007 2010 2013

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ent S

hare

sFigure 11. Reconciling Survey of Consumer Finances (SCF) and Administrative Data Top 1% Wealth Shares

Administrative DataSCF Bulletin Wealth, HouseholdsSCF Reconciled to FAOTUS Concepts, HouseholdsSCF Benchmarked to FAOTUS Values, HouseholdsSCF Benchmarked to FAOTUS Values, Tax UnitsSCF Benchmarked to FAOTUS Values, Tax Units, Plus Forbes 400

Sources: Federal Reserve Board, Survey of Consumer Finances (SCF); and Saez and Zucman (2014). See Appendix B for details on SCF and FA wealth concepts. Wealth thresholds for identifying the top 1% of households and tax units are reported in Appendix C.

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Wealth concentration series

Improvement relative to Saez and Zucman (2016)

partially addressing overestimating fixed incomeextended estate tax multiplier series with improved mortality assumptions(though ad hoc unit of observation adjustment)

Very large discrepancy though with Smith, Zidar and Zwick (2019) thatmakes additional adjustments to capitalization of fixed income andequities

Unit of observation issues; tax units used here, but unclear why — thatmakes a large difference for levels (but it can’t explain trend differences)

The bottom line: wealth base estimates should be treated as suggestivenot definitive; reasonable changes in assumptions can yield bigdifferences. Still, closer to reconciliation.

No easy way to put standard errors, but these are imputation exerciseswith a lot of judgment calls.

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Implementation issues

Key noncontroversial design principles applied here: comprehensive base,very strong enforcement, 3rd party reporting (all good if implemented)

Large threshold to minimize valuation, liquidity, unpopularity.

Key aspect that makes wealth tax difficult to implement: the base notbased on (arm’s length) market transactions. Familiar problems fromtransfer pricing, unrealized capital gains, property taxation etc.

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Valuation

Privately held businesses are very difficult and costly to value. A cursorylook at the estate tax experience reveals that. Wealth tax would applyannually to 100 times as many taxpayers.

Ideas in the paper:

reliance on public trading when it happens (of course, but howendogenous/elastic is public trading?)reliance on existing private valuations (but those are costly, infrequent andincentives different)formula valuation based on profits/assets, turning it into something akinto corporate tax (applied in Switzerland, at low rates though and it’s thecountry with by far highest estimated responses)paying government in shares, government as a market maker (politicaleconomy?)

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Implementation (continued)

Tax unit — individual vs family.

Quantitatively non-trivial decision — under Pareto assumptions in thepaper 26% of the base is between threshold and 2×threshold (e.g. $50and $100m).

Gifts to children.

Authors admit that the tax is “fragile” — threshold, base, enforcementare easy to erode

Treatment of charity and trusts

Lessons from other countries — countries that can collect 50% of GDPin revenue, somehow can’t implement wealth tax well

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Rates

“Moderate” tax of 3%

if ROR is 3%, this is equivalent to 100% income tax..., even at 7% RORit’s a 43% tax)....and that’s on top of of corporate and personal income taxes and estatetax

Rate of return:

normal rate of return + risk + rents

compare revenue-equivalent (“low rate”) wealth tax and (“high rate”)income tax:

wealth tax is a heavy tax on principal (ie normal rate of return), light taxon returnsincome tax is a much heavier tax on rents, but lighter on normal rate ofreturn (and opens up other design possibilities such as exempting normalrate, as has been tried in Scandinavian countries)

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Should we worry about Atlas responding?

Current 2018 wealth ($ billions)

With moderate wealth tax since 1982 (3% above

$1b)

With radical wealth tax since 1982 (10% above

$1b)

Top Wealth Holder Source1. Jeff Bezos Amazon (founder) 160.0 86.8 24.12. Bill Gates Microsoft (founder) 97.0 36.4 4.3

3. Warren Buffett Berkshire Hathaway 88.3 29.6 3.2

4. Mark Zuckerberg Facebook (founder) 61.0 44.2 21.3

5. Larry Ellison Oracle (founder) 58.4 23.5 4.0

6. Larry Page Google (founder) 53.8 35.3 13.3

7. David Koch Koch industries 53.5 18.9 3.6

8. Charles Koch Koch industries 53.5 18.9 3.6

9. Sergey Brin Google (founder) 52.4 34.4 13.0

10. Michael Bloomberg Bloomberg LP (founder) 51.8 24.2 5.8

11. Jim Walton Walmart (heir) 45.2 15.1 2.0

12. Rob Walton Walmart (heir) 44.9 15.0 2.0

13. Alice Walton Walmart (heir) 44.9 15.0 2.0

14. Steve Ballmer Microsoft (CEO) 42.3 18.2 3.5

15. Sheldon Adelson Las Vegas Sands (founder) 35.5 18.4 5.6

Total (top 15) 942.5 433.9 111.5

Table 4: Effect of Long-Term Wealth Taxation on Top 15 Wealth Holders in 2018

Notes: The table lists the name, source of wealth, and wealth in 2018 of the top 15 richest Americans (Forbesmagazine estimates). The last two columns show what their wealth would have been if a moderate or radicalwealth tax had been in place since 1982. The moderate wealth tax has a 2% marginal tax rate above $50million and a 3% marginal tax rate above $1 billion (as in the Warren wealth tax proposal); the radical wealthtax increases the billionaire marginal tax rate to 10%. The $1 billion threshold applies in 2018 and is indexedto the average wealth per family economy wide in prior years. The wealth tax has a much larger cumulativeeffect on inherited and mature wealth than on new wealth.

Bezos (pre-divorce) owned 16% of Amazon; under “radical” tax hewould own 2.4%. What difference would it make?

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Alternatives

Fixing capital gains taxation

Addressing step upSolutions to valuation problem in wealth context are naturally solutionsthat allow for introducing accrual taxationAuerbach’s retrospective taxes (it solves liquidity and valuation) ornotional liability if one has annual valuation (to address liquidity)

Improving estate tax (enforcement and base)

Data: I appreciate, though I’m not convinced everybody will, the ideathat policy should be pursued in the interest of research rather than justthe research in the interest of policy.

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