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Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up
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Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

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Page 1: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Presented byJoseph D. Hampton &

Jeffrey S. TindalMay 21, 2013

Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then

Follow Up

Page 2: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Why are suspicious claims today’s topic?• Insurance fraud costs est. $1.6B per year in Wash.• Insurance fraud is a crime• They’re more interesting to talk about!

Page 3: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

What’s the basis for resisting such claims?• Criminal law• Insured’s good faith duty• Insurer’s statutory duty 

Page 4: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Why should producers be interested?• RCW 48.01.030’s good faith duty on “all persons”• Fraud runs up costs

Page 5: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Insurance works best when people are honest:• It’s the spreading of risk• The spreading must be genuine• Honesty is essential to genuineness

Page 6: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Trusting your gut:• Not a replacement for SIU• But everyone should be alert...• Does the claim seem “off” to you?

If so, follow up!

Page 7: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Red Flags

Timing of claimPrior claim historyHypothetical questions prior to claimBehavior of insuredWhere property obtainedHow property obtained

Page 8: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Red Flags

Faulty memory or “perfect claim”Claimant attempts to limit info in releaseFinancial motive/personal problemsBulky items claimed in theftSentimental items undamaged

Page 9: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Red Flags

Obvious signs of alterationPhotocopies v. originalsAmount of tax wrongTiming of documentationInvoices v. estimatesDiscrepancies

Page 10: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Red Flags

Weird accounting recordsInconsistent or lack of physical evidenceSpoliation of evidenceUncorroborated documentationInability of insured to answer routine questions

Page 11: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Red Flags

Vague and ambiguous detailsApplicant has or wants “excess” insuranceFailure to sign and dateFailure to answer pertinent questionsVital info incorrect

Page 12: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Tactics

Proof of loss formRecorded statements/EUOsRequest for documentation/financial informationInspectionsBackground checks

Page 13: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Case Study No. 1: The Hurried B.I. Claim• threats of suit in excess of limits• pushing resolution; close deadlines• over $350,000 in PIP and settlement paid

Page 14: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Case Study No. 1: The Hurried B.I. Claim• threats of suit in excess of limits• pushing resolution; close deadlines• over $350,000 in PIP and settlement paid

Page 15: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

UIM claim brought:• “permanently disabling back injury”• we demanded/got med record release• found original records . . .

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Finding: preexisting back injury concealed:• manipulated records:

 • original records:  

Page 17: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Result:• claims dropped• guilty plea to felony theft• restitution ordered

Page 18: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Lessons:• insist on authentic evidence• confirm authenticity• review, analyze and compare

Page 19: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Case Study No. 2: Sailor’s Tall Tale• 55-foot sailboat• skipper fleeing ex-wife• heading Olympia to Hawaii• girlfriend on board; only crew

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USCG rescue at 125 n.m. offshore• 75 n.m. coverage limitation• “we were hugging the coast”• “got pushed out by storm” • “couldn’t make it back in”

Page 21: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Supposed route of the S/V Mystery Ship

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Investigation:• recorded statements• E.U.O.• weather data• hired weather expert

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Result: • claim withdrawn• no suit

Page 24: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Lessons:• pin the insured down • test and question the story• obtain historical evidence• compare story and evidence

Page 25: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Case Study No. 3:

Golfing granny?

• theft loss at trailer• mentally disabled son not home

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Red Flags

• multiple prior losses• high ticket items• cash purchases/gifts • faulty memory

Page 27: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Tactics employed

• PILR• recorded statement• EUO• contacting alleged sources

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The “aha” moments

• iPod from ex-boyfriend• Thomas Kincade paintings• golf clubs from “granny”

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Result:

• got attorney up to speed• settlement negotiations• standing firm• voluntary dismissal of all

claims in lawsuit

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Case Study No. 4: Manufacturing evidence• fire loss to home• “ALE” claim• loss of rents on rental duplex• lease as proof of rent amount

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Something didn’t smell right• insured slow in cooperating• insured difficulty with documents• but lease was found

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More bad smells:• utility record discrepancy on duplex units• lack of corroborating evidence• no effort to locate tenants• lease form. . .

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Date on Lease:

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Date code on lease form:

FORM NO. 13.5B© 2006-2009 Washington Legal BlankPortland, OR www.wlbmforms.com EN

FORM NO. 13.5B© 2006-2009 Washington Legal BlankPortland, OR www.wlbmforms.com EN

Page 35: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

“EN” means “2009” so:“[Lease] could not have been signed . . . in the year 2008 . . . because [the form] was not released for sale . . . until . . . 2009.”

-- Legal Form Co.

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Result: • conceded counterfeit• more lies discovered• directed verdict granted before trial• insured has appealed!

Page 37: Presented by Joseph D. Hampton & Jeffrey S. Tindal May 21, 2013 Suspicious Claims: Trust Your Gut, then Follow Up.

Trust Your Gut: is something amiss?• go back over evidence• scrutinize the details• talk to others• go to the source• get expert help

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Questions?