Oxford Classics Mods 2008, (Courses IA and IC) PLATO, EUTHYPHRO AND MENO

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FIRST PUBLIC EXAMINATIONHonour Moderations in Classics Courses IA and IC)

PLATO UT YP RO AND M NO

IDLARY TERM 2008Monday 3 March, 9.30 am.- 12.30 pm

nswer Question and TWO others

Marking scheme: Question 1, 10 of overall mark for each translationand for each commentary tota150 ); other questions, 25 each.

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1. TRANSLATE and write critical comments on TWO of the following passages,of which (a) may not be one, and, WlTI:I0UT TRANSLATING, write criticalcomments on a third, which may if you wish be (a).

(a) ~ IIpl T(VOSSe S 1 SIvX8lvTsKal bTI -rtv KptfJlV 10ov Svvap.Vol dq,IKlfJOal ~ x p t y av d.U1jAolSlp.vKalopyl'otp.8a; LfJWSov 1TPOXIPOVot fJT V, d \,v p.ovAYOVTOSJK01TIlTaS TOT StKalov Kat TOO:SIKOVdKal Ka'\ov Kal alfJXpov Kal dyaOov Kal KaKov. .pa ovTavTa. ~ f l V 1TPIcLv SIv)(8lvTSKal ov Svvap.VOl1T1lKav'1v KptfJlV aVTaw A8iv X8pol d \ \1j \OIS ylyvop.8a,oTav ylyvc1Jp.8a,Kal yw Kal Tl) Kal 0: \ \01 O:V8PW1TOL7 aVTS; ye :4 \ \ fJTlVavTYJ7j Slaq,opa, cLEWKpaTS, Kal1TPITOVTWV.~ Tt Se Oot, cLEv8vq,pwv; OVK L1TPTl Sla-

rPpOVTa J ~ a l l T d TaVTa 8 aq ipoI VTaVj 1ye IIo'\'\'1 dvaYK1J.~ Ka; TWV8wv O:pa, cl>ywai Ev8vq,pwv, 0: \ \01 e

Ii \a UKala 7jyovvTal KaTa TOVfJOV\oyov, Kal Ka'\a KataifJxpa Kat dya8a Kal KaKa OVyap O:v1TOVfJTadta'ovd \1j \OLSEl p.'11TptTOVTWVSIq,lpOVTO;SOCRATES: Then over what might we dispute and fail to findsome solution? What could we become enemies over and get angry

d about? Perhaps you have no ready answer, but I ll make a suggestion -consider whether it s over what s just and unjust, or fineand despicable, or good and bad. Aren t these the things overwhich we quarrel and can t come to an adequate means of resolution, leading us at times to make enemies of each other - you, meand everybody else?EUTHYPHRO: Yes, it s that sort of dispute, Socrates; those are theIssuesSOCRATES: What of the gods, Euthyphro? If they disagree at all,wouldn t they disagree for just these reasons?EUTHYPHRO: Inevitably.

SOCRATES: Then among. the gods too, my fine fellow, youraccount suggests that different parties think different .things just or fine or despicable or good or bad - because they would not,apparently, be quarrelling with one another unless they were indispute about this.

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2. What is wrong with defining the holy as that of which all the gods approve ?3. Why does Socrates set such high standards for understanding a term likeexcellence apeTIj)? Is he rightto do so?4. What could Socrates say to a heavy drinker who tells him: Of course I knowit s bad for me, but I m going to have another one anyway ?5. The Platonists doctrine of recollection ... , though sheer myth, is entirely,consistent with unadorned reason LEIBNIZ). Do you agree?6. True belief plus a working-out of the explanation ahi.UI;;AOYlUll0,:;).s thisa good account of knowledge?7. How seriously should we take the suggestion at the end of the no that civicexcellence is a matter of divine dispensation ?8. Does Socrates mislead Meno by appealing to analogies between ethical and .mathematical enquiry?

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