#OTalk Transcript October 29th 2019 - WordPress.com · @EmilyKellett7 We are so lucky to be able to support our patients to access yoga classes with a qualified yoga instructor, who

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Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

Hello folks! Today I will be pre-tweeting today. So, forgive me for not being as

coordinated as previous weeks in response to timing to the questions. #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Welcome who is here tonight #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

RT @EmilyKellett7: @cathymc9781 @OTalk_ Hello! Feel free to message me with any

comments you have after the chat! #Otalk

Carolyn is an OT @CeeCeeOT

RT @OTalk_: Tonight s̓ #OTalk will hosted by @EmilyKellett7 you can access our

website here to see her blog post about tonight s̓ topic #Yoga…

#OTalk @OTalk_

Remember @The_HCPC code and enjoy tonight s̓ chat. #OTalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

I have not used yoga as an intervention for OT. However, I am aware of its use in mental

and physical rehab settings. #otalk

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

Mary booth mostly lurking. #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

Hi everyone! Really interested to know how you think yoga and mindfulness techniques

can be incorporated into your OT practice? #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

@EmilyKellett7 over to you for the questions #otalk

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RT @EmilyKellett7: Hi everyone! Really interested to know how you think yoga and

mindfulness techniques can be incorporated into your OT pr…

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Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

My first awareness of this came from here- https://t.co/h8ZQbKUNv0. I have seen it

offered yoga groups to college students. #otalk

Janet @janetregan3

@OTalk_ I am lurking, while also trying to put the kids to bed and work on an

assignment #student #OTalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@OTalk_ Iʼm here! But dual tasking with a stats assignment, so might be a bit quiet!

#otalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

I also I am aware of this. https://t.co/dnFEa5PCAI #otalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

Catherine here, trying to get my dyslexic brain round tweetdeck! #otalk

Barbara Ann Smith @Babsyslapsy

@OTalk_ Finally able to join in #OTalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 I work at a child development centre mainly with autistic children. I think

yoga and mindfulness would be great as an intervention to support these kids but I am

not trained nor do I do it for myself personally #otalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 I do use the interoception programme which is based on mindfulness

techniques with good results with autistic children #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Not right with the #. #otalk https://t.co/z2ONA5t5bC

Opportune-OT @Opportune_OT

@OTalk_ Hello #OTalk

Rachel Hall @RachHallster

@OTalk_ Hi all. Iʼm here! #otalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

I see yoga as a potential treatment for groups in rehab settings, particularly in

geriatrics. It can be therapeutic for patients to do alongside one another. #otalk

Nabachwa LL @NabachwaOT

@OTalk_ Hello, evening all. I am lurking as well and will contribute where I can. I just

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quickly read the blog for tonight s̓ chat, looking forward it. #OTalk

Rachel Hall @RachHallster

@OTalk_ Apologies, predictive messages! #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 That sounds perfect! It might be worth exploring it a bit for yourself

first- for me, the real understanding of it came from personally experiencing and having

that desire to bring it into practice! #Otalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 We are so lucky to be able to support our patients to access yoga

classes with a qualified yoga instructor, who can adapt the work they do. My only

experience with mindfulness is recommending a well known mindfulness app #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

RT @EmilyKellett7: @SusanGriffiths5 That sounds perfect! It might be worth exploring

it a bit for yourself first- for me, the real understa…

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@OTalk_ What do you perceive as the barriers to introducing yoga and mindfulness as

an OT? #Otalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@EmilyKellett7 Back in 1991 we ran an Iyengar yoga group in a mental health day

hospital. It was well attended and noticeable how people's confidence improved.

#OTalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

And since today is #worldstroke day, I thought it is also appropriate to share this.

https://t.co/GmAKqA9pUI #otalk

Dianne @OTStudentDianne

@OTalk_ Here #otalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 I have tried going to a class but I have a hearing impairment so I canʼt

relax because I am constantly listening out for the instructor to give us the next

instruction. I am always one step behind everyone #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Donʼt forget the #OTalk

Nabachwa LL @NabachwaOT

@SusanGriffiths5 @EmilyKellett7 I would be interested to know more about this

Interoception Programme as well. That and what kind of results/outcomes are linked to

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children with Autism. #OTalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I thought that you had to do a course to become a mindfulness

practicioner and the same to be a yoga instructor. So both are activities that I would

encourage patients to look in to but not deliver myself #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

You need to put the hashtag in your tweets #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Question 1 #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@OTalk_ this sounds very interesting and would surely have benefits for both mother

and baby #Otalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

and here's one on yoga and autism. https://t.co/hdmLO1thpI #otalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Another factor would be patients perceptions of both

mindfulness and yoga. Preconceptions can put people off trying them #otalk

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

RT @OTalk_: Question 1 #otalk https://t.co/7L1Yc0Dn7j

Hayley OT @hayleyot1

@OTalk_ #otalk oops

#OTalk @OTalk_

Donʼt forget the hashtag in all your tweets #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Donʼt forget the hashtag #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

You really need to include the hashtag in all your tweets otherwise people will not see it

and it will not make the transcript #otalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Training! Where would we start? The training courses I have

seen for mindfulness tends to be for mental health or for pain. I have not seen any

courses on using mindfulness for children #OTalk

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#OTalk @OTalk_

Please remember to include the hashtag in all your tweets otherwise people will not see

it and it will not make the transcript #otalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

And's here a link on yoga and mental health. https://t.co/J2itj0t2M1 #otalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@OTalk_ You have to get over people's preconceptions and fears. These fears can be

around physical ability, but also "looking right", having the right clothes etc. #OTalk

Carolyn is an OT @CeeCeeOT

RT @OTalk_: Question 1 #otalk https://t.co/7L1Yc0Dn7j

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@OTalk_ #OTalk and maybe better to have an experienced yoga teacher deliver it as

part of OT program for those patients who wish to want to try it/do it

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 Look up Kelly Mahler as she developed the interoception programme.

She is coming to the UK next month to deliver training to OTs on this. I have used it to

teach autistic children the skill of noticing their body signals #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Search for the #OTalk you will see that people are says. And remember to add the

hashtag in al all your tweets https://t.co/TKrYOcMxQL

SuzanneW_1 @SuzanneW_1

@EmilyKellett7 @SusanGriffiths5 My teenage daughter has autism and finds

mindfulness/yoga really challenging, it heightens her anxiety. Made me reflect on how

others experience it #Otalk

Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT

I will make more comments when I check out my notifications after the chat., since I

don't have much practice related experiences to share. #otalk

Janet @janetregan3

@MaryBoothOT @OTalk_ Yes, I was going to say something similar. Like everything, it is

a matter of understanding that while it has massive benefits for some people (myself

included), it might not be beneficial to everyone #OTalk

Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo

#Otalk q1. Barriers.... room that reduces outside distractions eg traffic, funding to run

it, funding to train staff (self fund to deliver?), choice of client group (as could be

huge), to offer free sessions or charge and if charge how much as a classic barrier is

costs

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Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 You might like the Downward dog app; I use it a lot at home which

would take that pressure and allow you to enjoy it! #Otalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@MulryMary @OTalk_ Agreed there are financial barriers of becoming a qualified trainer

or buying in. Also needs to be thought about how a patient transfers into their everyday

life - finance, environment, routines. It is so important to introduce things that can be

continued independently #OTalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@NabachwaOT @EmilyKellett7 I see a large number of autistic children go from 0

(calm)to 10 (meltdown). They may recognise emotions in others but struggles to

identify it in themselves. They donʼt notice their body signals that tells them they are

becoming anxious or angry until it too late #OTalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@SusanGriffiths5 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I wonder if @theRCOT has any guidance or

recommendations? #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

@EmilyKellett7 @RJOTSeashell Donʼt forget the hashtag #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

#OTalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SuzanneW_1 @SusanGriffiths5 This is really interesting! Is she able to explain why?

#Otalk

Dianne @OTStudentDianne

@EmilyKellett7 @RJOTSeashell @OTalk_ Did you get extra training in yoga Emily -

sounds so interesting? #OTalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@NabachwaOT @EmilyKellett7 Some of the children also donʼt recognise when they

are hungry or full, cold or hot, or sleepy, or when they need the toilet, etc. Because

they are not noticing their body signals. Mindfulness is good for this #OTalk

Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo

@CathRodgers13 @MulryMary @OTalk_ #otalk the cost of a session or several might

not be compatible with an individuals finances when travel is factored in...... can these

sessions be on “prescription” as well as private purchase?

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@Louisepenny87 @SusanGriffiths5 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ @theRCOT #otalk is it

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Occupational Therapy unless meeting the need / goal for a patient. Rather than train

self how about signposting.

#OTalk @OTalk_

You really need to include the hashtag in all your tweets otherwise people will not see it

and it will not make the transcript #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 @OTalk_ I am actually delivering some training courses over this

academic year for Yoga and mindfulness for children with Autism through the

@seashelltrust if you were interested! #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Click on #OTalk you will see what please are saying - you need to put the hashtag in all

your tweets too

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@SusanGriffiths5 @NabachwaOT @EmilyKellett7 #otalk can you point us to the

evidence please.

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@OTalk_ Question 2: In what ways do you think yoga could influence occupational

performance in those you support? #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Question 2 #otalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@SuzanneW_1 @EmilyKellett7 This is actually quite common in autistic children. You

may wish to look at the interoception programme as this breaks it down into much

smaller concrete steps. Also mindfulness/yoga is not for everyone and that is ok #OTalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 @NabachwaOT I agree, and believe yoga also compliments this in

bringing awareness to our physical bodies and tension we hold #Otalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@smileyfacehalo @MulryMary @OTalk_ The HIU programme is looking into using

personal health care budgets to fund these types of things. I think areas of Sout

London already do it #OTalk

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ #otalk Iʼm not a yoga expert but if balance is an issue could it

help. May help some people to relax and meditate and look after their own well being.

But that could happen outside of Occupational Therapy

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Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Enabling people to access activity that is meaningful to them

can support them to self manage their recovery, increase activity, build confidence,

manage mood etc. #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

RT @MaryBoothOT: @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ #otalk Iʼm not a yoga expert but if balance

is an issue could it help. May help some people to rela…

#OTalk @OTalk_

RT @Louisepenny87: @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Enabling people to access activity that is

meaningful to them can support them to self manage the…

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ @seashelltrust Ooh definitely interested #otalk

Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo

@CathRodgers13 @MulryMary @OTalk_ #otalk so then if financial barriers are

reduced/removed is it the barriers around knowing this is available from both a client

and professional perspective....

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@OTStudentDianne @RJOTSeashell @OTalk_ I have attended the training by 'Special

Yoga' which focused on yoga and mindfulness for those with Autism and ADHD. It was

amazing and has really helped with my confidence in exploring it further within my

work! #Otalk

Dianne @OTStudentDianne

Could this perhaps be a great opportunity to work collaboratively with

physiotherapists? We can bring an occupational perspective of the wider benefits of

engaging in yoga, and the physios can bring the expertise on the musculoskeletal

benefits? #OTalk

Isaac Mombury @Isaac_wise34

RT @Louisepenny87: @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Enabling people to access activity that is

meaningful to them can support them to self manage the…

SuzanneW_1 @SuzanneW_1

@EmilyKellett7 @SusanGriffiths5 Not really, think she finds it intimidating, self

conscious. Disoriented from it, like she stands out. Mindfulness is not for her #Otalk

Dianne @OTStudentDianne

@EmilyKellett7 @RJOTSeashell @OTalk_ That sounds amazing thank you! #OTalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ There have been some trials to look at the efficacy and

effectiveness of yoga in the neuro population #otalk

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Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@MaryBoothOT @NabachwaOT @EmilyKellett7 Join Facebook group ‘Interoception:

the eight sensory systemʼ as there are lots of links to research articles on evidence to

support this #OTalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ In the group , the most noticeable changes were Volitional -

positive shifts in personal causation. It's a major boost to stand on your head, aged 60

with no previous experience of exercise . Also lots of laughter , which is therapeutic

#OTalk

Nabachwa LL @NabachwaOT

@EmilyKellett7 @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ @EmilyKellett7 - It would be good to know if

anything - information or otherwise, has been helpful in supporting people to make

informed choices about engaging in Yoga. I ask because I have found it difficult to

balance some people s̓ misconceptions on its spiritual aspect. #OTalk

Mary @maryartshealth

@OTalk_ #otalk I donʼt see any barriers as introducing Yoga as part of a program of

treatment for inpatient mental health facility or day center .

Hayley OT @hayleyot1

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ For some, could be a useful occupation for improved

emotional self-regulation. This could subsequently increase successful occupational

participation across the occupational performance areas #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@CathRodgers13 @OTalk_ LOVE this! #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

@EmilyKellett7 15 mins left of chat - what s̓ the next question #OTalk

Mary @maryartshealth

@OTalk_ #otalk but we always use trained teachers as it very specialised even though I

have practiced yoga on and off for 20 years I would never run a yoga class

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@CathRodgers13 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ #otalk wow maybe I need to take it up. In my

70s and getting up from floor is challenging

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

@maryartshealth @OTalk_ #otalk defo

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@MaryBoothOT @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I'm not sure I could do it now, this was 30

years ago. But the teacher was amazing and it was fantastic to see achieve so much

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Rachel Johnson OT Seashell Trust @RJOTSeashell

@hayleyot1 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I agree Hayley, self regulation to consequently

increase occupational participation is the area I am most interested in #OTalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@NabachwaOT @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ From my personal perspective this hasn't

been an issue. I focus on the being in the 'now', engaging with your breath and body.

Guiding them through physical postures for sensory/motor feedback. I take the

sessions very slowly & carefully monitor their engagement. #Otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@NabachwaOT @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ I also encouraging humming rather than

'Oms' as I think it gives similar sensory and auditory feedback without that added

spirtual context which I know can make people feel uncomfortable #Otalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@OTStudentDianne Yes, I would always want to discuss an intervention such as yoga

with MDT colleagues before recommending it to someone #otalk

Mary Booth @MaryBoothOT

RT @Louisepenny87: @OTStudentDianne Yes, I would always want to discuss an

intervention such as yoga with MDT colleagues before recommendin…

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@OTalk_ Question 3: What evaluative tools would you use to measure the effectiveness

of yoga and mindfulness within your OT practice? #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Last few mins any final thoughts #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Question 3 #otalk

Ebrar @nomad_ebr

RT @OTalk_: Question 3 #otalk https://t.co/LLoDTjdqes

Kwaku Agyemang @KwakuOT

@hayleyot1 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Great Point Here...I Am Hoping To Start A New

Group At Work Using @PrisonPhoenix Materials They Kindly Sent To Me Which Is Very

Accessible. #OTalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

RT @KwakuOT: @hayleyot1 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Great Point Here...I Am Hoping To

Start A New Group At Work Using @PrisonPhoenix Materials T…

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RT @EmilyKellett7: @OTalk_ Question 3: What evaluative tools would you use to

measure the effectiveness of yoga and mindfulness within your…

Rachel Johnson OT Seashell Trust @RJOTSeashell

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I find using GAS goals the most flexible #OTalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@smileyfacehalo @MulryMary @OTalk_ Getting the funding is never easy. Also there is

the need to have the right to support to facilitate a routine change and enough internal

motivation to continue long term #OTalk

Louise @Louisepenny87

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ In the context of supporting someone to access yoga as a

meaningful activity, a broad measure such as the COPM would be useful #otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@RJOTSeashell @OTalk_ I agree. They allow us to look at individuals holistically based

on their functional and everyday needs which fits perfectly when using Yoga and

mindfulness approaches #Otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

Donʼt forget the hashtag #otalk

Fiona Shergold OT @fionsherg

@OTalk_ Thanks @OTalk, still learning #OTalk

Hayley OT @hayleyot1

@OTalk_ Sorry, Iʼm having a ‘mare tonight #otalk

#OTalk @OTalk_

#OTalk Research 5th Nov 2019 – Innovation – Do Occupational Therapists have a role

to play? https://t.co/LeCzSReIrp

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

@Louisepenny87 @EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ I think the important point is to have SMART

goals written around what the client is wanting from the intervention. Is is about the

improved balance to be able to put socks on. Is it about integrating new and beneficial

activity into their routine? #OTalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 @OTalk_ Depends on the reason why yoga/mindfulness was

recommended in the first place as to what evaluation tools you would use. I have used

stress questionnaires and repeated the assessment of self-regulation with autistic

children #OTalk

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Thank you @EmilyKellett7 for a great chat that s̓ 9pm so we are signing off transcript

will be added to the website in a few days #OTalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

RT @OTalk_: Thank you @EmilyKellett7 for a great chat that s̓ 9pm so we are signing off

transcript will be added to the website in a few da…

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

Thank you for sharing @BillWongOT #Otalk

Rachel Johnson OT Seashell Trust @RJOTSeashell

@OTalk_ @EmilyKellett7 Thank you Emily #OTalk

Catherine Rodgers @CathRodgers13

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Nabachwa LL @NabachwaOT

@EmilyKellett7 @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ 1/2 - That is good to know, thank you

@EmilyKellett7. It was an issue in my personal experience of practising Yoga (as a

beginner) years ago. I found Mindfulness to have a similar response from some people

as well. That was how I knew to offer an alternative techniques... #OTalk

Susan Griffiths @SusanGriffiths5

@EmilyKellett7 @NabachwaOT @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ Just out of interest is

humming/omʼing necessary? I only ask because for me personally the sound is like

fingernails on a blackboard, it makes my skin crawl and my body tense #OTalk

Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope

Really interesting read if you missed tonight's #otalk!

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 @NabachwaOT @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ I don't think it's hugely

nessesary, particularly if it makes you feel like that! It's supposed to bring union to

the group and create sound vibrations through the sounds which also provide sensory

feedback (although a true yoga instructor could probably tell us more!) #Otalk

Emily Kellett @EmilyKellett7

@SusanGriffiths5 @NabachwaOT @Louisepenny87 @OTalk_ I do find it helps kids learn

how to extend their out breath and they like 'sounding like a bee'. So I'd suggest you do

what suits you and your group/ 1Z1 #Otalk

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