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Document Number l ~ ~ l - 4 8 5 ~for FOIA Review o(l MAA 1977
Article in "Northern Virginia S'"u.."l,., fo r
21 November 1967 Enti t led 1108·TP..ID's Let te r
S t i l l a Puzzle" by Robert S . AL!..E::i and
Paul SCOTT
The attached a r t i c l e refers to"the baf f l ing quest ion th e
FBI i s still t ry ing to answer , concerning Offi·TALD's knowledge o f
Cuban Consul Eusebio AZ[.tUE' s reca l l t o Cuba . ~ J i:muen.do the a r t i c l e
in fers a "mystery" i s involved in OSHALD's knowledge and s t a t e s t h a t
GARRISON hE.s sa id the 08\·TALD l e t t e r i s a very il:!portant pa r t of' h is
investigat:. .on .
Zz11The Repor t of the President ' s Commission on t he Assassinat ion
o f President KENNEDY, , p . 301 through 310, the t:a:tter o f OSHALD's
v i s i t to the Cuban Embassy in :t-!exico City i s de·;;ai.led and inc ludesa descript ion of OSWALD 1 s dealings vTith Cuban Consul Eusebio AZQUE
and a I:l.ember of AZQUE ' s s ta f f , Senora SilviCL Tirado de DURAN,. a
Mexican nat ional who 'vas sympathetic to OSHALD a21d. t r i ed to a s s i s t
him in obtaining a Cuban visa . In order to obta in a vi sa fo r en t ry
in to Cuba it was necessary fo r Offi.TALD to f i r s t obta in a visa to e n t e r
the U. S . S.R. SilviQ:de DURAN t e s t i f i ed t ha t ad:::ittedly exceeding her
r espons ib i l i t i e s , she informal ly telephoned the Russian consula te
with the in tent ion o f doing what she could to fac i l i t a t e i ssuance o f
the Russian visa to OSHAI..D . The Russian Consulate repl ied t h a t it
would take four months to process his appl icat ion and on hear ing t h i s ,.
OS1-TALD created a scene which resul ted in angry . o:!"ds with Consul AZQUE
who came out o f h is off ice . AZQUE to ld OSi·TALD t h a t " i f it were up to
him , h e woul d not give him a vi sa ; " t hat "a person of hi s type was
harming the Cuban Revolution ra ther than helping it . "
The "t-larren Report on p . 310 then reports t ha t CIA advised
th e Commission of the fol lo,dng .
"He surmise t ha t the refer ences in OS.·TAI.D 1 s 9 Nov ember 1963
l e t t e r to a man vrho had since been replaced I!IUSt refer to Cuban Consul
Eusebio A ~ U E , who l e f t Mexico fo r Cuba on peroa.ne!lt t r an s fe r on 18 Novenbe:-1963, four days before the assas s inat ion . A ~ U E cad been in Mexico fo r
18 years and it w-as known as ear ly as September 1963 t h a t AZQUE was to
b e replaced. His replacement did ar r ive in S e p ~ e ~ e r AZQUE T ~ sschedul ed to 1ea·;e in October but did not leave U!!-.i.l 18 November 1963 .
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"lve do : : ~ ~ k:w;-: ;,::o night have told OS\·TAI.D that AZQUE orany other Cuban "'.=.:i "::een or was to be replaced, but ue speculate
that Silvia D U E . . : : . . = ~ :::::- sor:1e Soviet off ic is . l might h:=.ve mentioned i t
i f OSHALD c o m : 9 l e . ~ : - . : : i aboilc AZQUE' s al tercat ion •,rith him.
I there is l i t t l e substance to the inference
in ALLEN ana >:oGUTJ:'S column that there is a great eystery aboutOSWALD's knowledge of AZQUE's recal l and referred to the WarrenReport as quoted above.
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lt't\€t' was preparl"d and laferr l i . s m v e r ~ .
The c:onunission's inquj.1-ythe Oswa!d letter. most detail:>.
of wNch were but·ied jn the 2F;
voluumes <Jf testimony, ;revealedthat .:\Irs. Ruth Paine, on \Vhosel\"pP.writer th e !inal draft was
made. an d :\I::ui..'l.a Oswald. k.Jvwd ;h e !et1er an.j tts conrems before it was mailed.
)Jrs. Paine testified Oswaldtyped the letter \\."hile spendin;;rhE> ~ · o " v - e m b e r 9 ,..,·eekend at he r
residenc.""e with his \-:,ife. Aft""l' ob- ·st:t·ving the- ~ e t t e r \vhen Oswalrlwas not arowtd. :\Irs. Paine ,said
copied it . 11te eommission·s
l ' C ~ " C t ' d ~ h o w s s i ~ - : > tu..rned the copy
ov-er to the FBI on ~ o v . 23, thect.Jy afier the assassination.
An FB I repJrt on filt- in
Na::•Jnal A r c h i \ ' 1 : ~ ' - ' i . which h < ~ ~ < : .been r e < . ~ n t l y d e c L ; ~ s s i f h ~ d . I V J t e ~that the agency :started its i.1·vestigativn i m m ~ i a t z l y on inter-
cepting- O.•wa!d's letter af\\?1' j:
was mailed on Nov. 12 in Irvin;;.Texas.
At the time. the F"'B[ a ~ n t ~ in\'Cived in the intel'C"!pt cOPied tilt>
tt>Xt o( the lt>tter and put ito ~ w < t l d ' s \ n ! ~ h i n g o n me \\ith anote that one part.lgraph \'edfied
e ~ r H e r infc-:mation on Os\\--.a\d's
:vrexico Cit'' ,·i.sil.' r . 1 ~ rr: te-. pointed out titat 0.:--
"·ald's: mention of ''Com:aO.o;o
Kos·!r." in the letter c<>n!lrmed
a CIA report that he had metw•·t1 Valerity V!adim:rovi.ch K ~stikov, a member the consular
~ t a f f cf ·hC' S o ~ · i f ' ~ E m h ~ - s y . and
or thf' l•)P KGB . fficers in the\\"·."':':':e :-n Hf·rn :sp!it't"C.O:o\\·"11d's '·la.st lett('r·· with it:;
r e ' f c 1 · c n c ~ · to th!" Cubcm Eml:t1ssy
ofncial is also bcin; i n v e s t i g < ~ t e r lbv Odea.ns District Attorney
J,,mcs Gan.iscn.RcCOlTIS in ; ! 1 ~ ; · N : t t i o n F ~ · I .\t··
chi\·e,s hc.o:-e shO\' Garrison's in-
,·r•s!'o;atoM recently combed th e
f i l ~ s tor informati-;n aho)ut thf"
o-"·a 1d !ettr-r nn<l about hO'.Y"
lccH-nPrl of Cor.sul EuS<'bioAl'Quc":; unannoun"ed rrc<lll.
On e \dtn<>:o-.... "h o <l'f."PeR,·ed inre:-M1t W l ' ? k ~ txofon• OnTisorl"s.
;::-rRnd j u r ~ · p r o ~ of the- Kennf"dyp.:; , ..... i n a . t i o n . I:'\., reoortro to a.
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Attached herewith i s a1Mexico City r ep l ay o f th e
Ro be r t s_ Allen - Paul Sc o t t c o l T h ~ ~ concerning L ~ e Harvey'oswaldrA l a s t l e t t e r wr i t t en befqre h is assass i na t i on .The a r ~ f c l e concerns th e Cent ra l In t e l l i gence Agency,the KG? and the Cuban Embassy in Mexico Ci ty .
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c l ~ t \ b , . ; : ; . s : : : s : : ; : a : : ~· ' N r i t ~ l ! n as :t : · c : r t . : ~ . > t fo: a Soviet , · ; . ; : ~ ,
l c t ~ c r c o : - . t ~ i n ~ < l :1 n : . : · : J ~ ~ · : · c r r i nto ~ ! : ; ~ hi••hly sccrl!t recall oi a c u s : l ~ or.:kiat :n. !h<:::.texico Cit y em bassy C:l)'S a!:..:r o ~ w a l d : : c i \'iSitl!c! : ~ t ~ ~
~ : : : . ! .. .·;!:-·1 !J:t:! :!s.. U.. : i : i : - : q ~ c ~ t ~ c r . . VCI is ~ : - : ' : ~ ~ ~ :;:-:s·,t:!:-:: Ls:I !ow did o'sw:tld learn ~ b o u t this of£ici:1l's anncur,ccd.
~ c : : : ! t : •· : : " ~ ! l : : : ~ . s co::tcluded l : - ~ f o : - : - : 1 a t ~ o : 1 woul-:. · ho.vc
h ~ < l t.J cor-::c to 0.>\':a!t! from c r . ~ ot: tt:rc:! sources: ·
l i .-\:: : ' o ~ · : 1 1 J : - : t in th e C t : ~ a : \ :Zm bassy !:1. : . r c : ~ ! ~ nCity who ccntaclcu Oswald a f t ~ : : u r : 1 ~ d to U(2> ii !c Ccr.tral I n ~ . - : : l l i ~ c r . c c A g ~ : 1 . c y , o::- (: J i:he ~ . . : c . : : : ,S.:wict scc.:ct police.
s : ~ r . i f i c : m t l y , the Fgr inqui:y ::.scc.rt:li::._ed t h ~ ~::.nd : . . : . ~ : ; o;l.:.:-ators in e x i c o Ci:y la::.rncd vt ~ t : l l s
r e c a :It ap!)roximately. th e s:1me U : ; : ' ~ r : d . o ~ l Y . : : . \ ' ! ~ ~ ! "before Oswalc!-. \ V r o ~ e h1s letter, c o n ~ . a m L : l ~ · ! 1 ~ tollowtnci
: < : £ ~ : : to C : . . t b o . ~ Cor.sur Eusebio Azqt..:e, w:'!<l left :'.Ie;o;:Co .:fo< Cu i>;: on ?C<m :1 c:.e:1t t - : - a ~ s f c r o ~ 13 i\"ovembe!". 1952,
: . z ~ d::y s th e s a s s ~ c t l o ~ ..
) > : l r : t ~ r : l p h •• ,. •·b: c o u r ~ e th e Soviet E : n b : ~ s s y w: lS r.ot f o . u t ~ o ,
w ~ r c , a. ; I say u n p r ~ ~ J : e d , t.hc C : ; b ~ : l Cons:..!_ · . ~ a s ; : ~ : . t yo£ ::. g:·os:> breach of rcgutatlons, .l a:n gl:ld r.e .1::.s
! > ~ e n rcpl:lccd." - · ,. Acco:-cHr.g to th e FEI's ii:1dings, there was absolt.:":ly
no way OswQ.!d co:..:lJ. h:tve o o t ~ n c d ~ h : s ! n f o r r : - . a ~ ~ o : ~ C:.u:-·i n < ~ l!is Scotembe:- visit to Mexico C1ty, since t::e secret :-ec : ~ l l ::>rders £ro::1 Havann w ~ r e no t tnnsmi tted unHl : . f t ~ rhe h:.d :e!urned to D a ! l ~ s . Even then there ·.vas ::o p:..rrlic!t y a:-:d o ~ l y a har.c!£ul persor.s kr.ew about the orders. one FBr reoo..t states.
Du.:in .,. Hs ln\:cstig;:tio!\ of the Ke:medy o . s s a ~ ! ~ : 1 : i o : 1 . ,th e Warren Cor.tmis:;ion directed one inql!iry to t i : ~ CIAto c l e t e r ~ 1 i n e where Oswald m:ght have obta:ced inrorr.:atio:l. It produced negat!ve resc!t.;. . .
'I'hc CIA's memorandum to t:-.e com::-.:ss1u:1, r.:.w c!e·c ! ~ ~ s i i nnd on Iilc in the 1 ' \ : . t i o ~ : l l Archives, st::.t:.:.>:
"'.'.'e surmise that th e refuence in Oswald's Xo•·e:nber letter to tnan who has since bce::t :e;:>l<:ccd mt.:st
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nave told Oswald t h : l ~ Azqce W : l ~ !O be repbced." : <> _ . :
.. c e i - l i n ~ th!s ! ' ~ ? l a y f ::o::-: t::e C!A. '.Varre:tC o m w i s : > i o ~ · s st:lf: :11::c!e r.o ! : : r ~ i : e ir.qu!ry on Azque
~ c : - : : : 1 c : : . ou t c e . - : ~ c : - e d t ! : ~ i ; - ! ) . : o b ~ on th e C : . r : : 1 . f m s t : u ~ c e sur:c!. ::::- v:hich th e :ctter v:::..> p r c p : l ! · ~ d and i:tter cis.:overed..
Ti:c c . : > : - 7 1 : - d s ~ i o r . ' s inquir/ i:tto Os·s.lld lette:-. most .d ~ t : : . i l s o ( · s ~ i c h were ou:\ed i.rt !he 26 volu.-:-.es cii ~ e s U mo::y, revealed : ~ : ~ . t 4\irs. Ruth Pair.e. o ~ w!:osa tyi)ew!'itert!le finai c ! r . l ~ t was mace, ::.nd ~ I : l : i n : : . O s w ~ l d . knew oiiettcr an d it s cor:tents be:ore ! t wa$ rn:lilecl.
;.::-s. P : : i ~ c tcs:ificd O:>w:::.!:l t y p ~ d tl::: Iet!cr v:h!IeSi)er:.ding th e ~ : o \ · e m b ~ : - 9 weekend hec residence wi th ·hi s wife. After ob.;crving the Jette:- .w:•er. Os•>':llc!. w:ts no tAround, :\rrs. Pai::.e sa id she cor> ied it . T ! l ~ commiss!on'sr ~ c o r d shows sh e t l . ! n ~ e d th e copy. o.ver to the F3I on
N o v c m b ~ r 23, da y ~ f t e ; : tlle o.ss:!..Ssi!':::tton. .An ?EI re!>o::;: 0: 1 f i ~ ~ in the ~ a ~ ! o n a l A.rd:i-.res. v : h ~ c h ·
h<:s : : , ~ e u recently <!eclass!!ied, r . . o ~ c s t : t ~ ; ; <;.gency started. it:> i m • c s ~ i g a ; : i o n imme.::ia te!y o : ~ . i : l : : ~ : : c c ~ ~ t o ~ Osw:lld"$
-lei:ter : 1 f t ~ : - it 'Nas mailed 0:1.· Xove:cber- 12 in Irvin::. T ~ x a s .
added: "I h ~ v e never seen· men !n s:..tch govd shal)e ast ! t ~ y a.:c tod:1y. I 'd li!-:e to thin:-. -teat I was rC:>£>O::lsihle.W A S U I ~ C T O X - As L:;:tC:.O!'!. Jci1:-:sv:-. ~ t . : t I cioh't t h i r . ~ : that's the c : ~ s c . Ot!:: mec ~ . - e ~ t t e r
this week s h ~ s !'lis !o ur:h y ~ ~ ! . " Pres- Thej' r . : : < : c ~ \ ' C l J I ! ~ ~ e t " t : · : 1 i n ~ r . g aad ~ t e y ' r e d o ~ n ~ a bettc.-l c l ~ n t of th e Unitcc St:.tcs, : - : ~ b.s ~ e c v job." .
p h i l o s o [ > h ~ c l l ab :-ul : ) v ~ u r i • y , cor:.::. LE J aL.sv a kick out oi ! ) : ; : ~ : r . . . " ! g g ~ · . · c n !':itr. b;.·d ~ n t ; ~ b o u t history. Col. !..:lmar A. Wc:.ch, i: t c ! t ~ r g c o!' £l:l::a t =-ov:_l t r : l i : t ~ n g , who
His rccen: quotat!o:1. from Lincoln o.t c : - : p l a i r . ~ d t-ow s o n ~ c rr:en ca:nc . - i ~ i : t up to th e c!;:;o: of?rime :\Iinis!cr ~ : > . t o ' s di:1:1er-'·I ::.m here, the pl::!:ld r e ~ c y to j : . : ~ l :lt:d t!tc n .::oz.:!.I must do the best I c::.n, an d b c : ~ r · t!1e "Th!s i:> a j;>b where ·,\·e c!on't co:npcl m ea to ju::lp,'•responsibiHty of tn;dng thi! ::ou:se which I c:cpl::.ir.cd Col . Welch. ' ' ! f they c:tr:.'t iut-:t::>. we just senticc! I ought to takc"-reflccts th!s new h e m cr. b ~ c ! · : to ; : : r . o t jo b b. tl!<: Army. In t!.1a hs :p!'ti!osophy. wat· ••;c ..;o ~ ~ ! - ~ . : ! d of o ·.tr m ~ n t r:tin;:d to j l!r:lf'. The
His r c : ~ d i n f 1 ;!; tr.c e : v c n i : l ~ ; . . : ~ : :c i > ~ : t c r s ! 1 ~ \ ! to zo b d : !o o ~ ! : ~ r j o ~ ~ - !n th e K o r - c : ~ a w:1ralso. Th e b o o ! ' ~ u ~ line tC:c Whi t;: Iio:.:st: O-.Jr ju.npcrs •::e::c : : ~ b o u t ~ c r c c n t . Eut in thi:> w;::.- 91
s!:c:t,·c.; h.1ve c ~ : 1 n ~ e d . The d ~ . ; : ; t y • · o l u n o:• A ~ I J : r : ~ i pe1·ce:nt of ou: men coming t : t r o : . . : ~ h . w ~ t h i l ) i : l ~ coto:s.:\i:1i:o :1's n:n·al s t r : l ~ ; : c n · l'!ft over Ircm c!:.:.-s of t DR, ' f tcy'rc jum;>tr.;." ·r.:.\·..: ; ; o r ~ e . rcpl:Jcc.:cl by books oa G e o r ~ c W a s i ; n ~ t c : 1 :;.nd Th e Presi..:e:tt al sv. ~ : ~ j o y c . ! v:Sit to U .S.S. : : . : ~ .·\ b r-:1::1:!1 Lir.co!n, : ~ n d fou:- \ ' O l u : - . ~ c s by Josl!pnus D : . n ! c l ~ tcrp.:-isc, l:lrgest A m ~ : - i . : a : J . v::. rs hip ~ n o : : . t :1r.d. on!}·on w :t :;:'ln er a . r . : I c l c n r - p o · c r . . ! d C:.!-:-r-:c :. It h::td j ~ . : . S ~ r c t L t . . - : : ~ c l . £.:;>.11 t i • ~
Ti:c r•rcs ld-:nt lt::.s even bcc., me more : l : u t o : > ; > h ! : : : ~ l C : . . ~ l f cf l ' o ~ : d r . , a:1d he j o 1 n ~ d lt ::i:1a D i e ~ " ·ahuut lh!! t>t·css. He still is s ~ n . ; ! t i · . to critic!:;:n. nu t f.:. •· ' fhc Prc,;iC.cn;:: was ~ h a room : : l ! " ' . ~ O : > C :1 3 :r.s !lislcs,; sn titan Ke:tr.cdy or El:;cnhowcr or C \ · ~ n ~ : : t : ! d i : t bedroom in t!tc \ V i t i ~ c House. :1r.c! viayec! host :: t c!in-non-=c':c !t. :'·: rJ lU:l.,!Cr d ocs : & ! " . : ~ t : \•:::h ~ ' . ' / i ' : > : J . : > ~ ! " n ::c r. f': c i n s i s t ~ J . : ~ : 1 t Cr:iistcd ffiC:t ! > r o u g ~ t i:t. : l l V n ~
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d ~ t c d 31 JanuarJ 1964
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1. ·.iC l'C you :.1ble to "..Jncov;:: anythin l!. nbout tht: :J.llca;e:.lm e ~ t 1 r . l 6 bet't;cen Cswald and the Cuban A m l : . ~ < 1 3 5 1 d v ~ \,hl ch ~ asupposed to hnve taken p l ~ c e in an autcmobile o u t s l ~ c t ~ eC u b ~ n ~ ~ b n a o y in Mexico City?
2. De you have a c c e s ~ to the ~ i r e ~ c n by the ~ ~ v i e t!·ic:d can ::Jnbassy to the ~ o v l e t a : : ~ h l n ~ t c n ~ b : l s ~ y I f C ' J .d0, :nn w ~ £1nd ca t i ta c0ntent3?
3. r: . f e: r:::nc-J tJ ~ tc 5 :..:.nd '; c (' · ; c · ~ . - -l c t ~ e . . . . . ·.cult! i t l;c pcso1ble fcl' 'J: J tc .:. -.:c t. hl;! f .l l l :- :pc.J."to f the Ztlexi=::tn p o l l c ~ i n t . • ~ ! " ~ O C : . l tlcn!l of f · ~ . · 1 n J ~ ~ h=-i'
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9. .Refer-ence 1 ~ a ~ a i n r.t'Jul: tc p l l ! ~ ' : i . : · : : : ; : h l2c. ~ o u l J:;ou ~ l ~ r 1 f y t h ~ mor.y refercnce:J to t ~ e "::1G()r>tou ·· c e f c . c · : ~ < . J to30 f requently ln t h 1 ~ p a r a ~ r ~ p h ?
l 'J . T h c o u , - : ; h o ~ t ;,rcur en t i r e l c t . t c J . ~ the t0rm '0o 'l1c tC c n a ~ l 3 t e " occrns to be uoeu 1 n t c L · c ~ o ! 1 c e ~ b l y ·,·;!.tn tt!.:-::J· ~ ~ o v 1 e t Emb.:1asy." L l k e ~ .. t:lc :.::1th "Ct:'cn.n C c - n ~ u l : 1 t e " ·;ncl' ' C u b ~ n Emb:Jssy. ~ e & . S ~ U C l e fr-om thl::s t i l< l t the S c v 1 ~ tCon:sul:1te ~ n c l tho !::ov1et Embosay :nu:::t be the ~ n m e ln l ~ c : : x i c uC l t ~ , or ~ t lcn3t in the same bui ldlng, and t h ~ t the aamc
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worker of the Cuban
o f In t e l l igence (DGI).
Cuba in 1964 and was repor ted
to be working in DGI Headquarters .
b . Tpe DGI element in Mexico City in
f a l l o f 1963 was headed by Alfredo MI ~ \who had arrived on 2 September ~ ~ ~ a l J ~ ~
·as th e replacement of the C ~ ~~ ~ · ~ ~(departed 19 November 1963).
~ ~ ~ ' b G rc h ie f (and as of June 1964, MIRAB ' s successor)
was Manuel Engenio VEGA Perez.
c . The "Si lv ia DURAN" named in Luisa ' s
conversat ion was the recep t ion i s t , a Mexican
na t iona l , who dea l t with OSWALD during h is known
v i s i t s on 27a ~ d 2 8 ~ ~ ~ ~ e m b e r
to the Cubani n s t a l l a t i o n ~ i n ~ ~ n ~ ~ ~ i o n with a Cuban vi sa\ < ~ ; : . ~ ~ .
a p p l i c a t i o n ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ r t rans i t .
S i l v i a ~ r ; ( r f ~ ~ ~ \ ~ e l i ve witness on the~ ~ v ~ ~ ~ ~ ~& ~ : - \ , AL ' • . • , ./<'·::\:--:-,\r ecor ~ g a J < ~ W D s a c t ~ v ~ ty ~ n <.- ") ' , ' ' · .
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Mexico Cfty e r tes t imony, however, in its <. ,.._ .. :..;.' ·-) . , . .,
e n t i r e t y was taken and presented,
Mexican Governmental au thor i t i e s .
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BUERGO: I t i s sugges ted t h a t in accordance wi t h what wa sd i scu s sed with Congressman Stokes t h a t th e se s s i on b epro longed u n t i l b p.m. As one more i n d i c a t i o n of t he
Cuban w i l l i n gness to coope r a t e wi th th e wor k o f th e Commit tee ,the Consu l of t he Cuban Embassy in Mexic o w i l l a lso t ak e p a r tin th e ses s io n . Als o p r e s e n t i s Antonio He rnand ez who
acc ompanies Mr . V i l l a .
STOKES: F i r s t I want to r e t u rn t h e s e documents t h a t werehanded over to me t h i s mo rn in g . In th e second p l a c e , we a re
g r a t e f u l to you fo r having brou gh t here the wi t ne ss t h a t wehad r e que s t e d .
BLAKEY : I would l i k e y ou to give your name fo r the r eco rd in g .
AZCUE : Eusebio Azcue.
BLAKEY: How old a re you?
AZCUE: 66 .
BLAKEY : Are you c u r r e n t ly employed by th e government?
AZCUE: I was employed in c o n s t r u c t i o n and now I am r e t i r e d .
BLAKEY: Were you wo r k ing in 1963 ?
AZCU £ : In th e Cuban Embassy in Mex ico .
BLAKEY : In t h i s r e sp ec t, ha d you r ecognized Os wa ld?
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he came t o r e q u e s t a v i s a fo r Cub a .
BLAKEY: We can p resen t to you t h i s document so t h a t y ou w i l l
r ecognize it .
AZCUE : Yej it i s th e d oc ument and it was made
Consu l a t e in Me x ic o C it y.
in the Cuban
BLAKEY: Did h e s i gn the docum en t in y our presence?
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AZCUE: Of c ou r se . I remember him very we l l because whenw ~ w e r e " " b i m p l i c a t e d in th e a c t he r eq u es t ed th e v i s a .
B L ~ Y ' ~ d id he r e que s t t he v i sa?
AZCU : One day be f o r e th e da te o f th e document .
BLAKEY: When d id he go th e second t ime?
•AZCUE: On th e da te o f th e document . He r e que s t e d th e v i s a
and came with a document t h a t acc red i t ed him as be ing in th e
American Communist P a r t y ; he went to th e S ov ie t Union , b u t
wanted th e t r a n s i t v i s a to be in Cuba fo r a week.
BLAKEY: What t ime d id he v i s i t th e Embassy?
AZCUE: He came be tween 10 :00 a .m. and 2 : 00 p.m. We opened
th e Consula te a t 10 :00 a .m. and c lo sed a t 2:00 p.m.
BLAKEY: Did he come with anyone on th efirst
occas ion?
AZCUE: He was a lways a l one .
BLAKEY: Couldn ' t you see if he came wi th someone?
AZCUE: That I don 't know b e c a u s e o f th e l o c a t i o n o f my
o f f i c e . The second t im e he came, he came to br i ng th e photo
and th e document . The photographs had not been brough t th e
first t ime ; he br ough t a document o f h i s wi f e , who was aS ov ie t c i t i z e n ; and he wa s<r e s i de n t in th e S ov ie t Union ,
which I d id not u n d e r s t a n d , bu t I w i l l l a t e r expla in to you.
He asked me how l ong th e v i s a would t a k e . I asked him if
he had f r i en d s in Cuba who would gua r a n t e e him, because int h a t way it c ou ld be speeded up . Wh en t h i s s i t u a t i o n was
s ugge s t e d he began t o ge t u p se t ; he came wi th a book o f
Lenin unde r q is arm and I didn ' t l i k e t h a t ; I unde r s t a nd
t h a t a Communist doesn ' t need a book by Lenin to be a b l e
to exp re ss h is t e n d e n c i e s .
W t h t he v i s a from t he So v i e t Un i on h e c. ,,J d _ be g i v en
th e t r a n s i t v i s a . Tha t t h a t same day o r on th e ne x t day th e
Sov i e t EMbassy c a l l e d me to tell me t h a t th e documents t h a t
he was p r e s e n t i n g ( th e c e r t i f i c a t e o f th e d o c ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 9 f ~ ~ r r i a g ewi th a S ov ie t c i t i z e n ) were r e a l . I asked i f ~ b " ' o u C J . ! ~ : . J ehim th e v i s a and t hey answLed no; t h a t they had to c o n s u l t
wi t h Moscow . I t o ld him t h a t I had to co n su l t Cuba. He
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our conf idence ; th e c ons u l was going to r e p l a c e me be c a us e ~""'was going to Cuba . Afte rwards he came to s u rp r i s e me by ~
s a y ing t h a t he had a l r e a d y gone to th e S ov ie t Embassy . He \bel ieve<\ t h a t wi th t h a t I was going to g ive him th e v i s a . I '
t o l d him no , t h a t I needed to c a l l Cuba; t h a t angered him _and he c a l l e d it bur e a uc r a c y ; I go t mad and t o l d him to l e a v e ;
he left . He go t very mad when he saw t h a t I w a s n ' t g i v i n g
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DODD: Did he l eave an a dd r e s s so t h a t you could in form him if
a t ym e t ime th e v i s a were t o a r r i v e ?
AZCUE: No . He would have left it if he had l e f t on f r i e n d l y
t e r ms , b u t not- howh e l e f t , t h a t i s , I k i c k e d h i m o u t .
DODD: Was t h e r e some pr oc e ss wi th r e s p e c t to th e v i sa r e q u e s t ,
so t h a t th e pr oc e s s t h a t you c o n s u l t , in some moment you wouldr e c e i v e a n o t i f i c a t i o n ?
AZCUE: We would t r a n s m i t it to Cuba; t hen th e i n t e r e s t e d p a r t y
would c a l l and f ind ou t if th e v i sa was coming. We would
c o n s t a n t l y r e c e i ve c a l l s from t hose s e e k ing them; t hey a re th e
ones who were i n t e r e s t e d .
DODD: But he never c a l l e d ? In all b u r e a u c r a t i c pr oc e sse s when
a pr oc e ss o f t h i s t ype i s begun it is supposed t h a t you
w i l l r e c e i v e c a l l s o r not?
AZCUA:. Yes . Our government r e c e i ve d t h i s r e que s t and ne ve r
answered it because it had no r eason to .
DODD: What do you mean t h a t t he y ne ve r answered?
AZCUE: Tha t th e Cuban government ne ve r answered .
. p h y s i c a lDODD: Return1ng t o t he / a ppe a r a nc e o f Oswald. Bes ides th e
e n t r i e s h e r e , d id he have gray h a i r s ?
AZCUE: He was b lond . T h i s photo i s c u r i o u s . I didn ' t fill
out the form myse l f because t h e s e c r e t a r y d id so . She f i l l e dall of t h i s o u t , g () t th e s i g n a t u r e and then we s e n t it
to Cuba.
DODD: But do you remember t h a t t h i s pho to co r responds to th e man
t h a t you saw?
AZCUE: I remember him a s t h i n n e r b u t it i s p o s s i b l e .... pho tos
a re ne ve r . ... I remember him as a very t h i n man and a very hard
e x p r e s s i o n .
fPREYER: A few que s t i ons t o c l a r i f y t h i n g s fo r me. The first
t ime t h a t he went to your Embassy he r e que s t e d a t r a n s i t v i s a
o r was it a v i s a fo r Cuba?
AZCUE: A v i s a fo r Cuba . A v i s a fo r 2 weeks or 15 days . Normal lyth e pe op le a re n o t aware o f th e p r oc e ss f o r a t r a n s i t v i s a .
BREYER: But it was e v i d e n t t h a t it was to cont inue to th e
S o v i e t Union.
AZCUE: Yes .
PREYER : On h is second visit , when he b r o u g h t th e p h o t ~ and
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I heard him ask how long it would t ake to r e c e i v e th e
v i s a . And you asked him if he knew someone in Cuba
s i n ce it would be f a s t e r ?
AZCUE: Yes .
PREYER: Did you give him some da t e on h o w long it wou ldt ak e if he knew someone in Cuba?
AZCUE: No. I couldn ' t o b l i g a t e myse l f .it vas f a s t e r .
I t o ld him t h a t
PREYER: Then, he left and goes to th e S ov ie t Embassy.
Thr ee o r four b l oc ks . So t h a t i s i s poss i b l e t h a t he had
walked?
AZCUE: Yes, of c ou r se .
PREYER: Shor t l y a f t e r t h a t you go t th e c a l l in the embassy .
AZCUE: No. No . I t i s p ~ s s i b l e t h a t t he in te rv iew v i t ~ t h eSov i e t consu l took a whi l e . What i s mo r e , I be l i e ve t h a t he
v e n t to th e S ov ie t embassy th e same day; it i s p o s s i b l e th e
nex t day or the same day , bu t he ve n t t h e next day wh e n he
c a l l e d me, bu t t h a t was th e nex t day , I b e l i e v e .
PREYER: And th e So v i e t embassy t o ld you t ha t t hey had to
c o n s u l t Mosc ow. That they couldn ' t give a vi sa . Or d id you
tell it to Oswald?
AZCUE: And wh en he v e n t I t o ld him t h a t if the S ov ie t Union
had to con s u l t Moscow I had to co n su l t Havana.
PREYER: Did he ask wha t y o u cou ld fea r?
AZCUE: Yes, t hey a l l a sk , and th e answer i s a lways th e same;it depends on th e f r i e n d s t h a t you have in Cuba who can
a c c e l e r a t e the p r o c e s s .
P r e ye r : At ~ m e moment d id you ask th e S ov ie t Embassy a b o u t
th e t ime t h a t th e process would t ake?
AZCUE: No . That i s t h e i r b u s in es s .
PREYER: I ask you b ecause if it vas a r e l a t i v e l y s h o r tp e r io d o f t ime , it cou ld be t h a t he would wai t the re f to r th e
v i s a .
AZCUE: No. B e s ide s , I see in him th e d e l i b e r a t e pu r pose o f
g e t t i n g th e v i s a from us . He was i n t e r e s t ed in th e v i s a from
u s .
PREYER:Thank you very much.
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I would remember t h a t w el l , b u t t h a t i s o f i n t e r e s tI woul d have noted it, s in ce h ~ a n t e d to work fo r
I would have s e n t t h a t to Cuba.
BLAKEY: Do you speak Russian?
speak Russ ian a t t h a t t im e r
Did someone in the c o n s u l a t e
CONSUL: Probably today many Cubans speak Russ ian , buVat t h a t
t ime inb,3 . , nobody .
BLAKEY: Could you g ive us th e r oute t h a t Oswald would t a k e
to e n t e r your o f f i c e ?
AZCUE: If you want I ' ll make a drawing (he prepares it andex p la in s it.)
BLAKEY: Would he make some c a l l from th e consu la te?
AZCUE: I t could bet h a t t h e S e c r e t a r y a u t ho r i z e d some
c a l lb u t I saw he r two ye a r s l a t e r and she d i d n ' t mention an y th in g .
She was a very good f r i e n d o f mine , and he r husband t o o .
She t o l d me o f h er a dve n t u r e s with th e Mexican government .
She remembered ex ac t l y as I d i d . Exac t ly . Af te r no more t han
two ye a r s we remembered p e r f e c t l y . The Mexican a u t h o r i t i e swanted t o i m p l i c a t e · h e r as a Mexican; she d id no t have
dip lomat ic p r o t e c t i o n ; t hey wanted to imp l i ca t e her and she
defended h e r s e l f , she b i t and k ic ke d and was a pub l i c t h i n g
in th e newspaper. They t r i e d to coerce h e r .
BLAKEY: There a re no co n v ersa t io n s o f you wi t h her a bou t
your memories o f th e pe r s on t h a t you had seen o n TV
and th e one t h a t had been t h e r e .
AZCUE: I don ' t re m ember t h a t d e t a i l . More than anyth ing th e
c onve r sa t i on revolved around th e problems o f her s wi th th e
Mexican a u t h o r i t i es .
CORNEWLL: A ll o f th e v i s i t s o f t h i s ma n we r e c a r r i e d ou t d u r in g
th e work hours o f th e c o n s u l a t e from 1 0 :0 0 a . m. to 2 :00 porn.
AZCUE: Without e xc e p t i ons . Some t e l ephone c a l l i s a l s o po s s i b l e .
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be on Satu rday and SUnday?
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AZCUE : No. Saturday y es , b u t Sunday , no.
CORNWELL: Trying to be c a r e f u l wi th th e da t e s as much as p o s s i b l \Keeping in mind t he p rocedures t h a t a re fo l lowed a t an embassy ,would it have been normal fo r th e s e c r e t a r y to fill ou t th e
v i s a r e q u e s t , even when he d id no t hav e a photo? -
AZCUE: No . That c a n n o t be becaus e they a re in formed o f th e
documents t h a t they must p r e s e n t .
~ V R N W E L L : I f you don ' t have t h o s e documents you do n ot
beg in th e t y p i n g p ro c e s s ?
AZCUE: No. For what?
CORNWELL: To what p o i n t do you rem embe r the occas ion onwhich you argued wi th t h a t man where you t o ld him to l e a v e ,
to g e t o u t fAZCUE:The nex t day f i l l i n g o u t th e v i s a .
CORNWELL: Whenwas i t ?
AZCUE: Po s s i b l y t h e day a f t e r c a l l i n g fo r th e v i s a o r tw o days
later. Because he goes to th e So v i e t Embassy and then
r e t u r n s to th e Cuban Embassy . On th e 27th he f i l l e d o u t th er e q u e s t . On th e 28 th he goes to th e S o v i e t Embassy, on th e
2 9 t h probab ly r e t u r n ed aga in and th e 1 8 th the Sov ie t Embassy
c a l l e d me; th e most p r o b a b l e 1 ' ' i ~ t h a t it \-vaS · l i k e t h a t ,
t h a t is, t h a t would be th e l o g i c a l and reasonab le p ro ces s .
CORNWELL: The Cuban government y e s t e r d a y p r ~ n t e d us w i t h
t h i s doc urn en t . It i s a 1 e t t e r d a t e d 0 c t obe r l 5 , l 96 3 . I t i s
page 1 2 o f th e documents .
AZCUE; I do n ot remember t h i s letter. Well , t h i s i s a r o u t i n e
letter t h a t MINREX sends wi th re g a rd to · v i s a a p p l i c a t i o n s .
(He r e a d s th e l e t t e r )
CORNWELL: Wer e you still in Mexico on t h a t da te?
AZCUE: Yes , o f c o u r s e . Thi s was Comrade Miraba l , th e name
o f th e Consul who had r ep l aced me .
CORNWELL: Do you know if th e letter was addressed to M i ra b a l ?
AZCUE: It i s p o s s ib l e because he wa s o n th e job .
CORNWELL: But you w e r e f t t i l l t h e r e when th e letter was r e c e i v e d ?
AZCUE: Yes, bu t t h a t i s l o g i c a l ; I d on't need th e letter. Ihad a u t h o r i z a t i o n to g i v e a t r a n s i t v i s a wi t h o u t n e c e s s i t y
o f t h i s letter, knowing t h a t th e So v i e t Embassy had g i v e n th e
v i s a . Thi s i s a n o t i f i c a t i o n . Thi s does not have a n r m p l i c a t i \
CORNWELL: If you had had an a d d re s s s fo r Os wald on O c t o b e r 1 5 ,
would you have go t t en in touch wi th him?
AZCUE: No because I am aw a i t i n g th e S o v i e t v i sa .)
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CORNWELL: I f you w i l l aga in loo k a t th e visa a p p l i c a t i o n
see ing th e photo t h a t i s t h e re . How o ld would you gue s s
t h a t t h a t man in th e photo i s ?
AZCUE: 28 or 30. But th e one I remember would be more
than 35 . It i s something t h a t I seem to remember w e l l .I d id not see t h a t photo a f t e r t h a t t ime ; t h i s i s th e
f i r s t t ime t h a t I have seen it a f t e r so many y e a r s andth e memory t h a t I had o f th e one who went to th e ~ s u l a t ei s d i f f e r e n t from t h a t f a c e .
CORNWELL: T b ~ you. I have no more q u es t io n s .
STOKES: Could you give us an i dea o f ho w long Os walds tayed in your o f f i c e th e first t ime?
AZCUE:It i s a sher i t im e . Poss i b l y if t h e re was nobody
10 o r 15 minu tes a l t o g e t h e r because he i s in formed to
br i ng h i s p a s s p o r t , pho to , how long it t ak es , e t c . Thatexchange o f i n f o r m a t i on .
STOKES: So t h a t it woul d t ake 5 to 1 0 minu tes .
AZCUE: On th e second occas ion he was t h e re lo n g e r .
AZCUE : Yes because he has to w a i t , fill ou t th e form,pu t h i s s{gna t u r e , e t c .
STOKES: So how l ong do you t h in k he was t h e re th e s econdt ime?
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th e s ec re t a ry .
STOKES : Within your o f f i c e how much t ime would have pa s s e d?
AZCUE: It was a l s o f a s t because with h is r e f e r e n c e to th e
Sovie t Embassy he b e l i ev ed t h a t every th ing would be t aken
ca re o f and I expla ined to him t h a t if th e Sov i e t Embassy
has to co n su l t Moscow I have to co n su l t Havana; it i s b e t t e r
he wai t u n t i l th e Sov i e t v i s a a r r i v e s . Then1 angry be says
to me t h a t t h a t i s bureau cracy , and then I ~ i c k h i ~ ou t .
STOKES: In t o t a l , ho w much t ime would t h a t argument betweenyou have t aken?
AZCUE: Fas t . A f a s t c onve r sa t i on o f 10 minu tes wi th me , pos -
s i b l y with th e s e c r e t a ry u n t i l c a l l i n g me)5 m i nu t e J and with \me no more t han 5 minu tes . what I had t o exp la in to him was
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STOKES: With r e spe c t to th e v i s a ap p l i ca t i o n , it i ssupposed t h a t it i s s igne d by Oswald; t he r e i s a s i g n a t u r e
a t t h e bottom o f th e a p p l i c a t i o n . Whose s i gna t u r e i s t h a t ?
AZCUE: P os s ib ly t h i s s i g n a t u r e i s from here from Havana.Because t h i s one i s o u r s . The s i g n a t u r e i s t h i s one .
The s ig n a tu re i s i l l e g i b l e .
STOKES: We t hough t t h a t you might remember t h a t s i g n a t u r e .
AZCUE: You can see t h e re S. Duran and ano ther l a s t name ... ?
I b e l i ev e t h a t t h a t s i g n a t u re i s from Cuba, it i s i l l e g i b l e
b u t it is n ' t mine; I s ign wi th my l a s t name.
STOKES: On t h i s a p p l i c a t i o n t h e re i s a se c t i on t h a t says
o b se rv a t io n s . Could you r ead t h i s sec t io n so t h a t I can
ask a no the r que s t i on?
AZCUE: They a re th e documents t h a t he pr e se n t s to us : "Ther e que s t e r says he i s a member of t he American Communist P a r t y
and s e c r e t a r y in New Or l ean s o f th e Fa i r Play fo r Cuba and
t h a t be l i v ed in th e Sov i e t Union from October 1959 to
June 19 J 196 2 . Tha t t h e re he mar r ied a Sov ie t c i t i z e n -
he showed a document t h a t shows he i s a member o f th e two
mentioned o r g a n i z a t i o n s , th e Communist Par ty and F a i r Play
and th e marr i age ceremony. He appeared a t the S ov ie t
Embassy o f t h i s c i t y , ask ing t h a t h is v i s a be s e n t to ~th e Cuban Embassy . " This i s c u r i o u s , he th,nl:s_ s t h a t
we a re go ing to give him th e v i s a because he a S ~ $ t h a t git be s e n t to Cuba . We c a l l e d th e Consula te of the S ov i e t
Union and l a t e r they c a l l ed u s . I r e c e ive d t he c o m m u n i ~ ~ ~ 8from th e S ov ie t Consu ! a t e ; un l e s s th e s e c r e t a r y c a l l e d th e ~Embassy, and then th e Embassy c a l l e d me (He c on t i nue s r e a d i n g ) ' '
and they answered us t h a t t he y had to wai t fo r th e a u t h o r i z a ~ ofrom Moscow fo r th e v i s a and t h a t it would t ake abou t 4months . " I r emembered t h a t t he y had to c onsu l t Mosc ow
but no t th e t ime . ~STOKES : With r e s p e c t t o t h i s a p p l i c a t i o n , when th e s e c r e t a ry
wrote it, who d i c t a t e d it to her?
AZCUE: The s e c r e t a r y in h is p r esence .
a re made l a t e r .
STOKES: Who does i t ?
These o b s e r v a t i o n s
AZCUE: Perhaps the s e c r e t a r y because they are th e docum ent s
t h a t he p r e s e n t s and it has no o t h e r o b jec t iv e t ha n to
enumera te . th e documents t h a t he shows ·if t hey can be o f
some use to him .
STOKES: So t h a t none o f t h e i n f o r m a t ion on t h a t a p p l i c a t i o nwas t a ke n by you .
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AZCUE: No. That i s not my j o b ; it i s t h a t s e c r e t a r y ' s .It i s a r o u t i n e m a t t e r and doesn ' t have so much impor tance
fo r th e Consul to t ake ca re o f it .
STOKES: Besides S i l v i a Duran , were t h e re o th e r s e c r e t a r i e sin you o f f i c e and Miraba l ' s?
AZCUe: No, no o t h e r .
STOKES:Doesn ' t th e r eq u es t a l so i n d i c a t e t h a t Oswald wanted
to t r a v e l to Cuba on Sep t . 30?
AZCUE: (Reads) "Proposed d a te o f a r r i v a l lr'l Cuba, Sep t . 3 0 . "
STOKES: Afte r the a s s a s s i n a t i o n o f P r e s i d e n t Kennedy th e
name o f Lee Harvey Oswald became very impor tan t and a s ar e s u l t o f t h i s a t t r a c t e d th e a t t e n t i o n o f your Government to
all o f t h ese f a c t s and it must have been very im por t a n t toyour Government .
AZC UE: F i r s t I went to th e M i n i s t r y o f Fore ign Re l a t i ons
and t a l k e d with Ni lo and Roa . The n t he y c a l l e d th e M i n i s t r y
o f th e I n t e r i o r ; t he y saw th e impor t ance t h a t my s t a t e m e n t s
had .
STOKES: Were t h e r e s t e nog r a phe r s who took notes?
AZCUE: No. My i n t e rv i ew was pe r s ona l wi th Com. P i n e i r o .
STOKES: H a v e / ~ m e m b e r e d if t h e r e may have been a s t en ographe rp resen t?
AZCUE: No, what I am ex p la in in g i s t h a t given th e i m por t a nc e ,Commander Pin e i ro asked me someth ing l i k e 80 q u e s ~ o n s , many
more t han you a re . doing .
S T O K ~ : Did you s i gn some re c o rd o f s t a t e m e n t?
AZCUE: No . No . That was a background s t a t e m e n t . We had c o f f e e
someth ing l i k e t h r ee t im e s .
STOKES: I would l i k e our i n t e r e s t in t a l k i n g with Mr. P i n e i ro
to be t aken i n to accoun t .
DODD: There i s a b lue s tamp t h a t has a da te a t th e b o t t o m
o f th e a p p l i c a t i o n .
AZCUE: It i s very p o s s i b l e t h a t it i s our s because S e p t .
27 t o 0 c t . l 0 a r e 1 3 days , my Co n s u 1 a t e .1 nd T l Jso t h a t t h i s a p p l i i c a t i o n had to l e a ve in th e nex t ~on our plane o f Cubana t h a t ne ve r was more than 3 o r 4 days
o r in o t h e r words I b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s was th e r e c e i p t s tamp
he r e a l though it doesn ' t have a ny th ing e l s e .
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