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Modeling Karabut’s collimated x-rays, and excess heat in the Piantelli NiH exp’t Peter Hagelstein Research Laboratory of Electronics MIT ILENRS-12, July 3, 2012
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Modeling Karabut’s collimated x-rays, and excess heat in the Piantelli NiH exp’t

Peter Hagelstein Research Laboratory of Electronics

MIT

ILENRS-12, July 3, 2012

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CMNS model

† 2 2

0

stable unstable

ˆ ˆ ˆ + +

ˆ

2

j j j j j j

j j

H a a c c c c

Ei

M a P M a P

Model describes coherent dynamics of stable nuclear states in the presence of a highly excited phonon mode.

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Focus on oscillator coupling with unstable transitions

† 2

0

unstable

ˆˆ ˆ ˆ +

2

j j j

j

EH a a c c i

M a P

•many ground state nuclei at many sites in the lattice

•relativistic coupling to highly excited states [O(100 MeV)]

•excited states very unstable

•highly-excited phonon mode

•oscillator loss for off-resonance conditions

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Approximate product solution

, 1

oscillator excited state

distribution distributions

N

n Nu a

Coupling of degrees of freedom is complicated, but we can get a good approximation using a self-consistent Hartree type of approximation

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Two-level system model test problem

m+S

0 5 10 15 20 25 30

n

0

10

20

30

40

50

m+S

0 5 10 15 20 25 30n

0

10

20

30

40

50

exact solution approximate product solution

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Incremental oscillator distribution

1/3

2

1 0

1

, 0 1

Ai 2.833102

2

n

u

u

nu u n

g

V ng N

E E

Incremental oscillator distribution now available for general case

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Coherent dynamics with two-level systems

† †

0

2 †

unstable

ˆˆ 2ˆ ˆ ˆ ˆˆ +

ˆ ˆ +

ˆ

2

xz

j

j j

j

SSH b b E V b b

c c b bb

Ei

P

M a

oscillator two-level systems

N-level systems with unstable upper states

oscillator loss

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Coherent energy exchange

0

0

,

m n m n

m

t c t S m

E n

two-level systems

coupled oscillator and unstable transitions

Assuming resonance:

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Evolution equation

0 0

0 0

1

1

1

1

m n n n m

n n n m

di c b b S m S m c

dt

b b S m S m c

Model describes coherent energy exchange between two-level systems and oscillator (coupled to N-level systems). Whether significant energy exchange occurs depends on phonon matrix elements

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Phonon matrix element

0 0

† 2.83310

2

2.83310

1/3

Ai Ai1 ˆ ˆ 2

Ai

2

n n n

u

d

b b f

d

n

g

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Assessment

•Coherent energy exchange between (stable) two-level systems and oscillator (coupled to N-level systems) •Coupled oscillator and N-level systems fractionates large quantum •Stronger coupling larger gu more quanta can be

exchanged •No exchange in absence of oscillator loss effects

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Can we go the other way?

•Donor receiver model developed for converting donor

energy to oscillator excitation

•But can we go the other way?

•Is it possible to start with an excited oscillator, and transfer

the energy to two-level systems

•Is it possible to excite nuclei with vibrational excitation?

•New models would say yes

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Can it be demonstrated?

•Model predicts coherent energy exchange between equivalent two-

level systems with a large transition energy, and an oscillator with a

low transition energy

•Two-level systems can be atoms, molecules, nuclei, spin systems

•Oscillator can be vibrational, electrical, plasmonic, electromagnetic

•Many possibilities for systems to show the effect

•But can be demonstrate it between phonons and nuclei?

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Critical parameters

1/3

2

1 0

1

, 0 1

needs to be near unity2

2

u

u

n

g

V ng N

E E

Want n to be small; want 0 to be large, want low energy transition, need highly excited oscillator

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What are lowest energy nuclear transitions?

P. L. Hagelstein, “Bird’s eye view of phonon models for excess heat in the Fleischmann-Pons experiment,” J. Cond. Mat. Nucl. Sci. (in press)

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201Hg transition at 1565 eV is optimum candidate among

stable nuclei to demonstrate effect.

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Conceptual design

Hg containing sample

ACME THz vibrational

source

1.5 keV collimated x-rays

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Predicted spectrum is broad

Spread in phonon distribution that causes excitation will show up in the broadening of the line, and shift due to E2 in photon density of states.

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Karabut experiment

•Alexander Karabut (Luch Institute, Moscow) showed up at

ICCF10 talking about having demonstrated an x-ray laser

•Karabut was working with a high-current glow discharge

•Karabut observed collimated x-ray radiation near 1.5 keV

•(No way for there to be an x-ray laser in this experiment)

•Must be some alternate explanation…

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Karabut experiment (ICCF10)

Collimated x-ray effect seen

with different metals (Al, V, Fe,

Zn, Mo, Pd, W, others)

…and with different gasses (H2,

D2, Kr, Xe)

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Pinhole camera image of cathode

Collimated x-rays very bright, originate from cathode surface

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Emission after turn off

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A. B. Karabut, E. A. Karabut, P. L. Hagelstein, “Spectral and temporal characteristics of x-ray emission from metal electrodes in a high-current glow discharge,” J. Cond. Mat. Nucl. Sci. (in press).

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Collimated emission appears after discharge is turned off,

up to 1 msec and more

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Diffuse emission during discharge

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Bent mica spectrometer

X-ray spectrometer: 1– cathode holder, 2– cathode sample, 3 – vacuum discharge chamber, 4 – anode, 5 –15 Be screen , 6 – input slit of spectrometer, 7 – crystals holder, 8 – curved mica crystal, 9 – x-ray film, 10 – area of reflection spectra , 11 – input and output cooling water.

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Diffuse Kr L-shell emission

X-ray spectra for Pd and Al cathodes taken in Kr gas showing characteristic L-shell emission (denoted as 3 and 4 in the spectra) near 1.6 keV (the La1 and La2 transitions are listed at 1.581 keV and at 1.580 keV). Minor differences between the observed and known energy may be due to the use of the normal incidence grating formula.

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The Kr L-shell line is diffuse and originates from the

cathode surface (not from the gas). It shows up in the

spectrum a bit off due to the way the data was analyzed.

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Diffuse continuum emission

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Spectrum of continuum

Pd, D2 gas

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Voltage dependence

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The diffuse continuum emission is a broad feature

that originates from the cathode surface. The width

depends on the applied voltage (and hence current).

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Collimated beamlets

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Interpret the curves as due to a minor change in direction

of the beam during the emission. The emission is

sufficiently bright to damage (cause solarization) film.

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Beams seen long after discharge

Data collected for 20 hours after the discharge turned off

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Collimated emission taken long after the discharge is

turned off is particularly interesting because effect can

only be due to vibrational effects (no possible residual

from the discharge).

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Collimated emission

•Collimated emission due to coherent energy exchange from O(50 MHz) vibrational modes •Hg sputtered into surface from gas contamination by discharge •Phase coherence only possible for narrow (and almost random) frequencies within broad line width due to random positions of Hg nuclei [based on simulations]

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Diffuse emission

•Diffuse emission due generally to coherent energy exchange with THz phonon modes excited by discharge ion bombardment •Broad feature due to 201Hg nuclear transition •Characteristic gas line emission due to energy exchange with 201Hg excited state (Kr, Ar correlated in space with Hg) •Characteristic host line emission due to similar energy exchange effect

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Gozzi’s experiment (ICCF6)

From absorption coefficient of Pd cathodes, can estimate the energy of the gamma signal. Gozzi et al obtained an energy of 89 keV, and suggested that it was due to 109mAg

12 J of gamma emission, 9.3 MJ of excess heat

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Before looking at expts…

•Excess heat seen in NiH experiments

•Effect first reported in electrolysis experiments by Mills and

Kneizys (1991)

•Excess heat in gas loading experiments reported by Piantelli

et al (1994)

•NiH is not PdD

•Differences are important

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NiH lattice structure (fcc)

Ni

H

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Phase diagram

Note: 400 Mpa = 3948 atm

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Pressure vs loading

D/Pd

0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0

p (

atm

)

10-1

100

101

102

103

104

100 MPa

1 GPa

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X-ray diffraction data in electrochemical loading

No evidence for intermediate a values for loadings in the a- phase region. Observed only is the change in volume occupied by -phase NiH.

Juskenas et al, Electrochimica Acta 43 1903 (1998)

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Recall electron density near vacancy in Pd…

s [111] (Angstrom)

-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3

(e

/An

gstr

om

3)

0.00

0.05

0.10

0.15

0.20

0.25

O

T

V

D2

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[100] Displacement of D2 in PdD Supercell

Monovacancy

L Dechiaro, Quantum Espresso DFT calculation

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Electron density even higher in Ni (which is why H

doesn’t load well). But electron density reduced near a

vacancy, and can form H2. Ni is closest analog of Pd for

H2/D2 formation near vacancy. Expect issues for

vacancy creation and HD molecule formation to be

similar.

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Vacancies made more readily

H to Me site ratio

0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1.0

Te

mp

era

ture

(K

)

0

200

400

600

800

1000

NiHPdH

xv=1%5

1025

1%

510

25

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Ni phonon modes

D. A. Dimitrov et al Phys. Rev. B 60 6204 (1999)

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Issues with the development of optical phonon modes in

gas loading since H concentration is low

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Donor-receiver model

HD

3He

Phonon mode

AZ*

AZ

Donor system Receiver system

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D/H

0.00 0.02 0.04 0.06 0.08

Pxs(W

)

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

200 mW

500 mWPin = 1000 mW

More Pxs with D added

M. R. Swartz, G. M. Verner, and A. H. Frank, Proc. ICCF9 p. 335 (2002).

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More issues

•HD/3He transition fine for donor

•Reduced mass smaller than for D2/4He system

•So tunneling is orders of magnitude larger

•Deuterium natural abundance is 1/6240 of hydrogen

•E = 5.49 MeV, so need to exchange few quanta

1 2

1 1 1 2

2 3

DDD H HD H

MM M

m m

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Take away message

•Excess heat seen in NiH

•Electrochemical systems, gas systems

•Harder to load

•Easier to make vacancies

•HD formation good

•Donor-receiver model happy

•Is some D in H

•Larger interaction matrix element since Gamow factor smaller

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Piantelli experiment

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Piantelli experiment

S Focardi, R Habel, and F Piantelli, Il Nuovo Cimento, 107A 163 (1994)

10 cm

9 cm

0.5 cm diameter

Ni rod:

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Calibration

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Data showing Pxs

Input power: 140? W Excess power: 20 W

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T vs Pin for Pxs = 0, 20, 50W

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1998 Piantelli experiment

S Focardi, V Gabbani, V Montalbano, F Piantelli, S Veronesi, Il Nuovo Cimento 111 1233 (1998)

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Calibration curves

T1

T3

T2

T4

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Excitation of the sample

T1 = 381.7 T1 = 467.4

Approx: Pin = 60 W Pxs = 20 W

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Pressure-composition isotherms

•NiH is like PdH… 1 atm = 105 Pa

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Solubility of H at low pressure

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Uptake of H2 after several loading cycles

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Thinking about result

•Bulk Ni does not load much (5-20x10-5) near 1 atm

•Need O(6000 atm) to pressure-load bulk Ni with H2

•But some loading observed nonetheless in Piantelli expts

•Number of H atoms absorbed is several times O(3x1021)

•Number of Ni atoms in sample (1994) is O(4x1023)

•Loading in Cammarota replication from H2 absorption is NiH0.2

•Must be (non-bulk) special sites (defects or impurities)

•But not enough impurities in Cammarota version!

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X-ray diffraction data in electrochemical loading

No evidence for intermediate a values for loadings in the a- phase region. Observed only is the change in volume occupied by -phase NiH.

Juskenas et al, Electrochimica Acta 43 1903 (1998)

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Diffusion of H

•Diffusion of H in Ni is much slower

than in Pd

•Elevated temperature D in NiH is

similar to D in PdD at 300 K

D = D0 e-E/kT

D0 = 7.04x10-3 cm2/sec

E = 409 meV

D(300K) = 9.5x10-10 cm2/sec (NiH)

D(300K) = 5.5x10-7 cm2/sec (PdD)

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PdD diffusion model at 300 K

D(oct)/Pd(location)

0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0

DD c

m2/s

ec

10-8

10-7

10-6

-

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Excitation of the sample

T1 = 381.7 T1 = 467.4

Approx: Pin = 60 W Pxs = 20 W

H outgassing with temperature rise

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g-emission events

S Focardi and F Piantelli, “Produzione de energia e reazioni nucleari in sistemi NiH a 400 C” (2000)

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New elements in Piantelli expt

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•Low H loading in NiH gas systems

•Not enough H for good optical phonon mode

•NiH systems so far probably work based on acoustic mode

excitation

•Ni then participates strongly in vibrations

•Coupling of energy through nuclear excited states in Ni

•Some long-lived ones will have fission decay pathways

•Lattice-induced fission produces new elements

•Eats up significant amount of produced energy