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Minutes

CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR LICENSING BOARD MEETING

July 6, 2017, 9:00 A.M. Room 464 - 4th Floor

Heber M. Wells Building 160 E. 300 S. Salt Lake City, Utah

CONVENED: 9:06 A.M.

Bureau Manager: Board Secretary:

Board Members Present:

Board Members Absent:

DOPL Staff:

Guests:

TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION

ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS: 1. Review and approve minutes

ADJOURNED: I :57 P.M.

Dane Ishihara Lee Avery

Kenneth Roach, Chairperson Ruth Baxter Travis Manning

David Wilde Paul Carver Vice-Chairperson

Susan Higgs, Compliance Specialist Deborah Blackburn, Compliance Manager

Rebecca Kirschner Tara Adamson Aaron Gardner Nathan Pond Epifanio Garcia Ann Ngatai Hema Krishnaswamy Ryan Sturdevant Kimberly Pullar

DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS

The Board reviewed the minutes dated March 8, 2017. Mr. MalU1ing made a motion to approve the minutes. Ms. Baxter seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.

2. Compliance report Ms. Higgs reviewed the compliance report with the Board.

APPOINTMENTS: 10:02 A.M. - Tara Adamson, probation update interview

Ms. Adamson met with the Board regarding her probation and the progress she has made since being released from probation. Ms. Baxter conducted the interview. Ms. Adamson requested early termination of her probation and wanted to share her progress with the Board. She provided the Board with copies of her continuing education training, practices and self-care. She noted that her agency now does a quarterly check of the DOPL website and print out copies of licensees for her employees. She thanked the Board for meeting with her.

10:45 A.M. - Tracy Davis, probation interview, via telephone Ms. Davis met with the Board regarding her probation interview. Mr. Manning conducted the interview via telephone. Ms. Davis stated she is having difficulty finding a supervisor. The Board advised Ms. Davis her supervision may be done remotely, with Board approval and encouraged her to contact the addictions supervisor at the University of Utah. The Board reminded Ms. Davis that her supervisor needs experience with substance abuse and she cannot provide court assessments. The Board asked to see Ms. Davis September 13, 2017.

10:25 A.M. - Rebecca Kirschner, new probation interview Ms. Kirschner met with the Board regarding her first probation interview. Ms. Baxter conducted the interview. Ms. Kirschner reviewed the circumstances that placed her license on probation. She no longer works at the residential facility. She was working for Holistic Elements, and now working for Discovery Family Counseling. She submitted the CV for her proposed supervisor, Ms. Barbara Bronson. Ms. Kirschner stated she signed up for an online Psy.D program and will start in September 2017. She provided proposed CEs.

Ms. Baxter made a motion to accept her proposed CEs. Mr. Manning seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously. Ms. Baxter made a motion to accept her proposed supervisor. Mr. Manning seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

10:49 A.M. - Aaron Gardner, probation interview Mr. Gardner met with the Board regarding his first probation interview. Mr. Roach conducted the interview. Mr. Gardner advised the Board that he moved to a new office in March and had already notified Ms. Higgs. . He has been downsizing his practice and simplifying his life. The Board noted a positive change in Mr. Gardner. The Board encouraged him to submit a written request for early termination of his probation. He needs to submit an essay about the process and what he has learned.

11:00 A.M. - Eduardo Mar Avendano, application/education review Mr. Mar Avendano met with the Board to review his application/education with the Board. The Board reviewed the education documentation Mr. Mar Avendano submitted . The Board noted that the evaluation provided by W.E.S. establishes he has a Masters in Clinical Psychology. The Board advised Mr. Mar Avendano that in Utah, psychology is a different profession than counseling. The Board advised Mr. Mar Avendano that his work experience in the file cannot be used instead of coursework and advised him that his documentation does not show he received

fonnal education in "Professional Orientation and Ethical Practice" and "Assessment and Mental Health Status". The Board noted that the professional counselors have specific ethics and he needs fonnal education in the two areas as discussed. The Board encouraged him to obtain the additional education courses and take the NCMHCE exam.

11:32 A.M. - Herna Krishnaswarny, application/education review Ms. Krishnaswamy met with the Board to review her application/education with the Board. Ms. Krishnaswamy is foreign trained and had her coursework evaluated by W.E.S. This evaluation shows she has a Masters in Psychology. The Board advised her that her work experience in the field cannot be used instead of course work and advised her that her documentation does not show she received fonnal education in "Professional Orientation and Ethical Practice", "Assessment and Mental Health Status", and her Intemship/practicum hours are short. The Board noted that the number of credit hours in her Master's Degree, is 18 hours short. Ms. Krishnaswamy indicated she completed these hours. The Board encouraged her to obtain another evaluation by W.E.S. The Board encouraged her to take the NCMHCE exam. The Board agreed to meet with Ms. Krishnaswamy September 13,2017, if she can obtain a new W.E.S. evaluation showing the additional hours.

11:50 A.M. - Nathan Pond, application/CH review Mr. Pond met with the Board regarding his application and CH review. Ms. Baxter made a motion to close the Board meeting at 11 :51 AM to discuss the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of an individual. A recording was not made. Written notes were not taken. The Board meeting opened at 12:01 PM

Ms. Baxter made a motion to approve Mr. Pond's application. Mr. Manning seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

1 :32 P.M. - Caroline Kellough, application/education review, Out of order on the agenda ­The Board reviewed Ms. Kellough's application/education and detennined that Ms. Kellough's education is deficient in Psychometric Test & Measurement Theory, Assessment of Mental Status and clarification of Intemship/practicurn hours. Mr. Manning made a motion to have Ms. Kellough submit course syllabus regarding these courses. Ms. Baxter seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

12:09 P.M. - Request to extend ACMHC Iicense-Ann Ngatai, Deborah Gay Funk, Ryan Strudevant, Epifanio Garcia, Kimberly Pullar, Michael Mein

Ms. Ann Ngatai met with the Board regarding her request to extend her ACMHC license. Ms. Ngatai advised the Board that she failed the NCMHCE exam and is requesting an extension of her ACMHC license. After a brief discussion the Board noted that Ms. Ngatai completed 4,000 hours on 06/0112016 and under Utah Statutes her ACMHC cannot be extended longer than 06/0112018. Mr. Manning made a

motion to approve her request and extend her license to 06/0112018. Ms. Baxter seconded the motion the motion carried.

Ms. Deborah Funk failed to keep her appointment with the Board

Mr. Ryan Strudevant met with the Board regarding his request to extend his ACMHC license. Mr. Sturdevant stated he has not completed his supervised hours and is requesting an extension of his ACMHC license. He graduated May 13, 2014 and moved out of state. His career took a different road and he was not able to complete his supervised hours. He has since back to Utah and wants to completed his supervised experience and obtain full licensure. Mr. Sturdevant stated he has not taken the NCMHCE exam yet. The Board encouraged him to take the exam. Ms. Baxter made a motion to approve Mr. Sturdevant's request to extend his license to 07/0112018 . Mr. Manning seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

12:20 - Epifanio Garcia met with the Board regarding his request to extend his ACMHC license. Mr. Garcia stated he failed the exam and has signed up for the counselor exam course. The Board encouraged him to consider taking the NBCC prep test too. The Board noted he completed his supervised hours 03/28/2016. Mr. Garcia stated he would like his license extend to March 28, 2018. Mr. Manning made a motion to approve Mr. Garcia's request to extend his license to March 28, 2018. Ms. Baxter seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

12:23 - Kimberly Pullar met with the Board regarding his request to extend her ACMHC license. Ms. Pullar stated she is asking for an extension of her ACMHC license because she cannot take the exam until October 2017. She completed her 4,000 hours of supervised experience October 2016 and is asking for a one year extension. Ms. Baxter made a motion to approve Ms. Pullar's request to extend her license to 06/30/2018 . Mr. manning seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

Mr. Michael Mein failed to keep his appointment with the Board.

DISCUSSION ITEMS: 1. 1: 10 P.M. Open & Public Meeting Act Training, out of order on the

agenda Mr. Ishihara reviewed the Open & Public Meeting Act Training with the Board. He encouraged Board members to contact him with questions .

2. 9:25 A.M. Administrative Rule Discussion, out of order on the agenda 1. Ms. Blackburn reviewed a statute change requiring a fiscal note being

attached to all statute and rule changes. She noted that if the Board makes rule changes, a fiscal note needs to be included. This fiscal note needs to include the financial impact on the industry.

2. Ms. Blackburn advised the Board that she is reviewing the contract the State of Utah has with NBCC. She noted that the fees for the applicant has increased. The Board questioned how beneficial the contract is and

a. if the contract is not renewed, would the Utah candidate still be allowed to take the exam.

b. How many States have a contract with NBCC? c. The Board would like list of benefits the contract has.

The Board would like to review this at a future Board meeting.

3. Mr. Ishihara advised the Board that he is working on updating the supervision and CE requirements as discussed in previous Board meeting. He hopes to have a draft available before the September Board meeting.

1 :40 P.M. American Association of State Counseling Boards (AASCB) - Ken Roach

The Board reviewed the infonnation regarding membership to the American Association of State Counseling Board. The Board expressed interest in AASCB' s membership. Mr. Ishihara will make the request to see if the Utah CMHC Board can Jom.

3. 12:29 P.M. Association for Counselor Education & Supervision (ACES) - Ken Roach, out of order on the agenda

Mr. Gray Otis met with the Board and reviewed UMHCA, ACES, NBCC and AASCB proposal for portability between the State licensing Boards. He noted that AASCB sent out infonnation regarding licensure portability. The Board discussed licensure portability in previous Board meetings. Mr. Gray noted that State Boards that are involved in this compact, their licensees would need to meet the following requirements ­

1. Licensee engaged in ethical practice, no disciplinary action for 5 years. 2 Licensee possessed highest level of independent license for 3 years. 3. Licensee completes a law exam if required by the state. 4. Licensee would need to pass the NCE exam. 5. Meets all academic education

Option 1 - meet all of that states requirements Option 2 - holds NCC credential Option 3 - holds graduate degree by CACREP

The Board expressed interest in this and asked to meet with Mr. Gray in September for further discussion. Mr. Ishihara reviewed the current Utah Statutes and noted this requirement is more strict than Utah's current endorsement requirement as outlined in 58-60-115.

Not on the agenda ­The Board briefly discussed moving the Board meetings to every other month and requested this discussion be added to the September 2017 agenda when all Board members are present.

BOARD MEETINGS: The next Board meeting is scheduled for September 13, 2017

2017 Board meetings tentatively scheduled: September 13, December 13

NOTE* September Board meeting starts at 8:45 A.M. due to a hearing.

Motion to adjourn at 1 :57 P.M.

Note: These minutes are not intended to be a verbatim transcript but are intended to record the significant features ofthe business conducted in this meeting. Discussed items are not necessarily shown in the chronological order they occurred.

Date Approved