Marriage Matching as Per Tamil Suk Ran Adi Color

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Yenbeeyes hails from a Tamil family

wherein he learnt astrology from hisgrandfather who knew the entire BPHS

by heart. He was first asked to learn by

heart the Sanskrit verses of BPHS & then

was slowly taught astrology by his

grandfather who was his Guru. After 3

years of teaching only BPHS he was then

taught Jaimini Sutras by the age of 23.

Yenbeeyes is our authors pen name andhe, having retired in 2007, has taken up

to the cause of astrology full time and is

currently translating Jaimini Sutras into

Tamil. Saptarishis Astrology has observed

that Shri Yenbeeyes pursues this science

with an unmatched discipline and

dedication which is praiseworthy.

Associate Editor Saptarishis

Astrology

s far as marriage matching

is concerned, we come

across numerous articles,

books and now even on line matchingof charts has come in place. Hence

many readers might not be interested

in yet another variation of the

techniques already in vogue. But for

the sake of knowing what has been

stated in one of the ancient NADI

texts, I ventured upon to write this

article.

I must now say a few words about one

of the oldest Astrologers, old not only

in age (he is 92 years) but also in

practicing Astrology [Or should I use

the word-experienced]. He lives in

Chennai and he is called as

. Many of you would haveheard about the name Nakkirar, one

of the Tamil poets who argued with

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Lord Shiva and was burnt alive (and of course subsequently brought to life). I do not

want to go into the story of Nakkirar here. Readers can have the same from the net

Wikipedia also gives an account of the story. Just like Nakkirar, Our Guru Natarajan, in

an Astrological conference argued with many stalwarts on one astrological principle.

While all others were wrong, the rule as stated by Natarajan was found to be correct and

hence in the same conference he was conferred the title Nakkirar. He has to his creditmany such titles, appreciations etc. etc. He has also authored many books in Tamil. It

was he, who was instrumental in making me pen this article. The verses were taken from

Sukra Nadi and a literal translation is given here. Sukra Nadi is said to contain 12000

verses of which some are in his possession.

ukra Nadi was compiled by Rishi Suka and was inaugurated (what they call in tamil

as Arangetram) in the presence of the Sapta rishis. It is in the form of clearingdoubts raised by the disciples. Though not a conversation type, after each chapter,

the student informs his master that he has understood the technique narrated by him and

proceeds to ask the next question. It is said there are 1500 charts for each Lagna in this

treatise and so for the 12 Lagnas it makes a whooping 18,000 charts. This is entirely written

in Tamil language and as on date nobody has got the possession of the entire volume

according to informations gathered by me. It totally differs from other Nadi Granthas like

Chandra Kala Nadi or Dhruva Nadi wherein the 150 Nadi Amsas form the basics of

prediction. A portion of this great work was first brought out in a printed form by the late

Ramaswamy Pillai whose descendants are still continuing with the publication of this

book. One of his disciples by name Aryamuthu Pillai has written the meanings of some of

the verses taking into consideration 1500 charts @ one chart per Lagna. This Tamil prose

version also has additional information about various other classics like Pannerayiram (12

thousand), Subramaneeyam, Beerangi Thirattu etc. All the above facts have been stated in

the published edition itself. Our hearty acknowledgement and gratitude are due to the said

poet as well as to his disciples and publishers.

The beauty of this match making as given in Sukra Nadi is apart from the regular

agreements like Tara, Gana, Mahindra etc., there are two agreements which are of special

importance. One is the Longevity agreement and the other is the quantification of the

Dosha or the blemish in the charts. So in this article I have given elaborate notes on these

two agreements leaving the rest as a literal translation of the verses.

Readers are requested to test these two agreements and find out the results before

proceeding for pronouncing the agreement between the charts of the boy and the girl.

Now on to the verses.

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. (881)

The disciple addressing the God asks Him to tell him about the favourable agreements

for boys and girls to be seen before marriage.

. (882)

There are thirteen agreements to be seen between a girl and a boy before marriage and

they are Dinam (Nakshatra/Tara), Mahendra, Yoni, Rasi, Rasi Lord, Gana, Rajju,

Streedirgam, Pakshi (Bird), Longevity, Veda, Vasyam, Tree.

. (883)

Count from the girls birth star to that of the boys Birth Nakshatra and if the count is 2 -

4-6-8-9-10-12-14-16-19-22 then there is Dina agreement.

This is a simple calculation given in the verse. But according to Natarajan there are as

many as 12 subsidiary rules which are also to be taken into consideration. I am not going

into the details of such rules here. They are available in the book titled Matching for

marriage by Kutas and Birth charts authored by Natarajan himselfand available in the


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Saptarishis Astrology Book Shop at http://shop.saptarishisastrology.com . Readers can

refer to Chapter 3 of the said book for detailed information on this agreement.

. (884)

The 9 nakshatras Aswini, Mrigasirsha, Punarvasu, Pushya, Hastha, Swathi, Anuradha,

Sravana, and Revathi are said to be of Deva Gana (of God). Now we will see theManushya (of human).

(885)

. (886)

The 9 nakshatras Bharani, Rohini, Ardra, Purvaphalguni, Purvashada, Purvabhadrapada,Uthraphalguni, Utrashada, and Uttrabhadrapada are said to be of Manushya Gana and

the remaining 9 Nakshatras belong to Rakshasa (Demon) Gana.

In this if the girls birth star and the boys birth star belong to the same Gana there is

good agreement. If it is a combination of Deva Gana and Rakshasa Gana they are said to

be inimical. If the combination is of Manushya Gana and Rakshasa Gana there will be

loss of life. The combination of Manushya Gana and Deva Gana is said to have a

moderate agreement.

For a detailed explanation of Gana agreement as well as exceptions kindly refers to the

above stated book.
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. (887)

Count from girls birth star to that of the boys birth star and if the counting is in the

following there is said to be a good Kendra agreement:

1-4-7-10-13-16-19-22-25 are the numbers that should come when counted from girls birth

star to that of the boys.

Mahendra Kuta and Dina Kuta are somewhat contradictory. Hence majority astrologers

are not in favour of this agreement. The great stalwart Late P.S.Iyer has written much on

this agreement as also the combination of agreements Tara, Rasi, Stree Dirga and

Mahendra.

. (888)

If the counting from the girls birth star is above 13 it is said to be an excellent agreement.

Now listen to the Yoni agreement.

Here also there are controversies. The birth star of the boy must be beyond 9 from the

girls birth star and some say it should be beyond 7. Sri Natarajan here explained to me

the logic behind this. The first 9 stars starting from the girls will be within 4 houses (atthe rate of 2 and a quarter nakshatra for each house) of girls rasi. The 1st house is the

Chandra Lagna, 2nd is the family, 3rd is the brother and 4this the mother. If the boys star

falls within these 4 houses, he may be from a blood relation or a close relative. Hence it

should be beyond the house of mother which means anything above 9.


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. (889)

If the Yoni of both (boy and girl) are one and the same or if both are female yoni it is

good. There will be no agreement if either the yonis are different or inimical one or both

are male yonis.

Each star is assigned an animal-a male and a female categorization is also given to them.

Such details have been omitted for want of space and the same can be had from any

standard book on match making.

. (890)

When counted from the girls Rasi (house where Moon is posited) if the boys rasi is

more than 6, it is good. There will be increase in wealth, name and fame as well as

longevity. Next we will say about the agreement between Rasi Lords.

. (891)


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If the girls Rasi Lord and the boys Rasi lord are friends, the agreement is a healthy one

and if the lords are enemies, there is no agreement.

There are about 8 rules beautifully explained by Natarajan in his book and hence details

are omitted here.

. (892)

. (893)

. (894)

For Aries Leo and Scorpio are Vasya. For Taurus rasi Cancer and are Vasya. If

it is Gemini then Virgo is Vasya; For Cancer Scorpio and Sagittarius are Vasya, for

Leo is Vasya, For Virgo rasi and Pisces are Vasya, For Libra

Capricorn is Vasya, For Scorpio rasi Cancer and are Vasya, For Sagittarius-

Pisces, For Capricorn-Aquarius, for Aquarius- and for Pisces-Capricorn are Vasya.

If in this manner the Rasis are in agreement, there is Vasya agreement and the boy and

the girl will have an excellent life.

There are certain differences in this Vasya agreement. They are highlighted in the above

translation. For Taurus come take Leo instead of Libra. For Leo it is taken as Libra

instead of Capricorn as stated above. For Virgo instead of Taurus they take Pisces. For

Scorpio Virgo is taken and for Sagittarius Virgo is omitted as Vasya Rasi by some. For


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Capricorn in addition to Aquarius, Aries is also taken as Vasya Rasi. Similarly for

Aquarius Aries is taken instead of Pisces as stated above. Readers are requested to

carefully note this difference.

. (895)

. (896)

Draw three triangles and draw three cross lines across the triangle to make 4 divisions of

each of the triangle. Place Aswini nakshatra on the bottom line left and going up place

each of the nakshatras as shown below.

The line at the bottom (the base of the triangle) is Padha or Foot, the one above it is

Thigh or Ooru, the one above this is Naval or Nabhi, the one above that is Neck or Kanta

and the top is called as Head or Siro.


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. (897)

. (898)

If the nakshatras of the boy and girl fall under Padha or Foot there will be loss of wealth.

If they fall under Thigh or Ooru the girl will become impotent. The Naval or Nabhi

combination will result in loss of progeny, for Neck or Kanta it will lead to

inauspiciousness and the head or Siro combination will result in harm to the girl. In casethe combination is of Padha and Thigh it can be treated as a moderate agreement and for

a combination of Kanta and Siro is inauspicious and the rest of the combinations are

good.

I once again would like to remind the readers that I have provided only the translation of

the Verses here. In olden days, our elders were keen that marriages between boy and girl

must be matched as far as possible. So they have provided various exceptions to avoidrigid views.

In line with the above understanding, they have given a list of antidotes especially for

Rajju agreement. According to Natarajan there are as many as 113 combinations where the

exceptions are applicable to each pair of stars which are the birth stars of the girl and boy

respectively or vice versa.

. (899)

. (900)


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Draw a triangle and draw four slanting lines one on the left side and another on the rightside and a third one parallel to the base of the triangle as shown in the diagram above.

Write the nakshatras from Aswini starting from the bottom left hand corner and going

up in the clockwise direction and then coming down ending Revathi at the bottom itself.

If a male nakshatra and a female nakshatra comes in the line going across the triangle

there is no Veda agreement. If they stand in the different lines the agreement is good.

Some say instead of male and female Nakshatra, Arohana and Avarohana stars.

. (901)

. (902)

If the nakshatra of the husband is of hard tree (can say it as an old tree) and the wifesnakshatra is that of a tree with milk (can say it as a young tree) there will be progeny. If

husbands nakshatra is a young tree and the wifes nakshatra is hard tree, wife will


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become impotent and if both belong to hard tree category there will be loss of progeny

and if both belong to milk tree there will be increase in progeny.

According to Natarajan, this is not an important agreement to be seen and is also not in

practice.

. (903)

If the bird as indicated by the birth constellation of both husband and wife are friendly or

related life will be prosperous and if they have enmity life will be with hurdles.

This is not an important agreement to be seen and is also not in practice.

. (904)

. (905)

. (906)


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Count from the girls birth star to that of the boy and multiply by 7 and divide by 27 and

note down the reminder. Similarly count from the boys birth star to that of the girl and

multiply by 7 and divide by 27 and note down the reminder. Out of these two reminders,

the person whose reminder is less compared to the other, that person will pass away first.

With this the 13 types of agreements have been told by elders.

A word of caution is needed here. This agreement is in no way a yardstick for judging the

longevity of either the boy or the girl. There are very many combinations and methods to

judge the longevity of a chart. That depends on the strength of the Lagna, 8th house,

Lagna lord, Lord of 8th house and Karaka Saturn. According to Dr. B.V.Raman there are as

many as32 methods to judge the longevity and there is no full proof method by which one

can arrive at the correct time of death of a person. Hence before assessing the method

described in this Kuta, it is advisable to study the longevity of the boy and the girl fromthe accepted principles. There after this agreement can be verified.

The idea behind this agreement is to have an idea of who will predecease whom so that

one need not bear the agony of the loss of the other.

1.

Count from the girls birth star to the boys birth star and multiply the number soobtained by 7 and divide this product by 27. Note the remainder. Call it Girls

remainder, let it be G.

2. Count in the reverse direction from the boys birth star to the girls birth star.

Multiply the number so obtained by 7 and divide the product by 27. Note the

remainder. Call it boys remainder. Let it be B.

3. One whose remainder is less will die first.

Example:

Let the Girls star be Aswini and that of the boy Uthraphalguni

1. Counting from Aswini to Uthraphalguni we get 12

12 x 7 = 84 27 = 3 Q-3 R

2. Counting from Uthraphalguni to Aswini we get 17

17 x 7 = 119 27 = 4 Q-11 R

Wife remainder is less than 11. So wife will predecease her husband.


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(Some people include the star Abhjit also and take the total count as 28)

If we prepare a table for the numbers got from Girls star to boys star and also vice versa

and work out the remainder for each we will find the following results:

1. If the number is odd the girls remainder is biggest indicating husbands death earlier.

2.If the number is even, the girls remainder is less indicating the wife predeceasing thehusband.

A table for the above calculations are available in Natarajans book stated above.

This is the reason why in Dina Kuta 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th stars from the girls star in each

paryayam are considered as auspicious.

When the boys star is beyond 14 from the girls star the difference between the two

remainder is less indicating desirable life span.

. (907)

Oh! My Dear and respected and learned teacher! In this earth, it is difficult and rare to

have all the 13 agreements, which are the essential agreements that are required for

marriage. Tell me more about the same.

. (908)

Oh Son! The essential agreements are Nakshatra, Gana, Rajju and Vedha. If these four

are favourable, marriage can be performed.


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In olden days there were four classifications of Caste. According to the caste system,

elders have prescribed certain agreements which are essential for each caste. It is also

stated elsewhere that Rajju agreement is essential for all castes and we do not find that in

this verse. Also nowadays, we are above such caste considerations and hence, there is nopoint in considering which agreement is essential and which are not. P.S.Iyer asks: Can

you quote any reference from any Puranas that matching was essential or done before marriage?

Hence attaching too much importance to the so called Kutas or agreements is not advised for .

This view is supported by Sukra Nadi also as seen from the following verses.

. (909)

A boy born in the constellation of Aswini, if he marries a girl born in the nakshatra of

Maka, he will suffer from childlessness and will result in mental dissatisfaction and

quarrels. This is one rule. Another rule is a boy with Aswini as birth star will have one

wife and will have children with much wealth and finance. Like this there two

conflicting rules for the same star, you should analyse the minuteness of the rules and

then should give proper prediction.

. (910)

Further listen that there are two types of agreements one is the agreement of the body

(Sareera) and the other is the agreement of the life (Jeeva).


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. (911)

The above said 13 agreements are of body (Sareera). In case they are favourable and the

agreements in respect ofJeeva are not favourable one will suffer.

. (912)

Oh! Mu Guru! You told me about the agreements of the Sareera earlier and I heard it.

Now I request you to tell me the agreements for theJeeva.

. (913)

. (914)

. (915)

The Dosha or blemish arising on account of the malefics is to be treated as below:


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If the malefics are placed in 1-2-7-8 from Lagna, Venus and Moon the amount of blemish

is full.

If Mars is placed in the 12th (from the above 3 positions) blemish is quarter portion.

If the rest of the malefics are in their own houses, they will have half blemish.

In case they are placed in their exaltation positions, the blemish will be three quarter,

when placed in the friendly houses quarter blemish and when placed in enemy houses full

blemish will have to be taken into consideration.

When such malefics are in their debilitation signs the blemish will be one and a quarter.

Thus one should evaluate and tell the Dosha or blemish.

. (916)

Thus calculate the blemish that accrues to the boy as well as the girl and the ideal

situation would be that the blemish of the boy should be at least twice that of the girl.[It

should not exceed two times that of the girl]

. (917)

When the husband gets twice the amount of blemish to that of his wife, he will get good

and many issues and will be enjoying many yogas. Or if at least the ratio is one to one

and a half (between girl and boy) then also good results are likely to come.

. (918)


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In case the blemish of the boy exceeds that of the girl by a quarter marriage can be done.

If the blemish of the girl is more than quarter of that boy that will kill the husband or

separate him from the girl. [In other words, the Dosha of the girl should never exceed

that of the boy]

. (919)

It is stated that if there are Sareera as well Jeeva agreements are favourable, marriage can

be performed. There will be increase in progeny. If there is no Jeeva agreement

everything will get spoiled or destroyed. Hence Jeeva agreement is higher or better than

Sareera agreement.

. (920)

My teacher, till this time you have explained what I asked and have cleared my doubts.

Now I would request you to tell me about the 12 bhavas as per rules so that people on

earth will understand the same clearly.

In order to quantify the Dosha or the blemish I will take the maximum or the full points

for each Dosha as 4

1. Malefics in 1, 2, 7 and 8th houses from Lagna, Moon and Venus Full 4 points. (Sun,

Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are treated as malefics)

2.

Mars in the 12

th

from Lagna, Moon and Venus Quarter 1 point.3. Malefics other than Mars in rest of the houses if they are their own house half 2

points.

4. Placement in exaltation houses three and a quarter 3 points.

5. If such placement houses are friendly houses quarter 1 point.


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6. If those houses belong to their enemies full 4 points.

7. If the placement house is its debilitation house the Dosha is one and a quarter 5

points.

ri Natarajan has given a different approach for the above theory and he has given a

slightly modified method to calculate the Dosha arising out of the placement of

the malefics in specific houses -called as DOSHA SAMYAM. Readers can study

the same in his book mentioned elsewhere in the Article. P.S. Iyer has also stated that

apart from the Dosha caused by Mars, the planets Saturn, Sun and Rahu also cause

similar Dosha. According to him Mars causes 100 % Dosha, Saturn causes 75 % Dosha,

Sun causes 50 % Dosha and Rahu causes 25 % Dosha. According to Natarajan, Rahucauses the least Dosha followed by Sun, Saturn and Mars in ascending order. If Rahu

causes one unit of Dosha, Sun produces twice that of Rahu, Saturn creates 3 times that of

Rahu and Mars 4 times that of Rahu. He advises us to consider the placement of these

malefics from Lagna, Moon and Venus with the same percentage for placement in Lagna,

2nd and 4th house, and a higher percentage for 7th and 8th house and the least for the 12th

house. For the Lagna, 2nd and 4th houses if 3 units are assigned, then for the 12th house

assign 1 unit and for the 7th house 5 units and for the 8th house 6 units must be assigned.

He maintains the portion of Dosha with regard to the own house, Exaltation, friendlyand inimical houses as well as debilitation houses as per this Nadi rule. But while

calculating the Dosha from Lagna he takes it as full and from the Moon 50 % of the

calculated Dosha and from Venus only 25 % of the calculated Dosha. While giving the

results Natarajan says that the Dosha in the two charts should be equal or it can be more

in the boys chart. On no account the Dosha in the girls chart should be more than the

boys chart. Dosha in the boys chart can be double than in girls chart. Beyond that is not

desirable and should be rejected. I shall be writing a separate article with example charts

on this topic shortly.

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