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    ..."final"...sorry , not q uite...

    --- In [email protected], rocky@... wrote:>> ->> Hey, everyone! I was at the founding meeting of the Peace andJustice

    > Coalition and it was formed as a coalition of organizations andgroups. I> will give anyone 10 to 1 odds that this is not so. They simply haveto ask> Carol Jahnkow, director of the Peace Resource Center andfacilitator for> the SD P&J Coalition.

    > That said, I will move on; I have bigger fish to fry downtown than a> few power liberals that have taken control of the peace movement.

    What the majorit y in the SDCPJ cho ose to igno re is the say ing

    Insanity is doing the same thing ove r and ov er again and

    ex pec ting different results. I'd say that's more of human foiblethan anything else.

    > I> will deal with that in my upcoming book on San Diego.> My concern is not with Ann or the fact that we were not informed> about Rick Jahnkow's courageous challenge for the peace

    movement in> San Diego to actually do something effective, rather than feel-good,> self-serving, pitiful marches around Horton Plaza. Rather, I think> Greens have lost political interest share, particulary among young> people, because we have lost the cutting-edge radicalism thatformed

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    .

    My take on this is a bit more mundane and grounded than this.

    This simply has to do with (an) individual(s) choosing to

    represent one 's own views to the SDCPJ with the implication that

    those v iews are those of the GPSD. Sure, one could say that one

    never attended nor represented oneself to the SDPCJ as The

    Official Representative of the GPSD to the SDCPJ,but that stepsov er the fact that there are fair and fairly heated o bjections to the

    tactics used by the SDCPJ to pro test and co unter-act the War

    Abo ut Terror . I say that it ne ither serv es nor adv anc es the

    GPSD.

    > This lastest flap of not wanting to know about fundamentalchallenges> by Rick to the P&J Coalition's sad, ineffectual efforts. The inertia> and comfort zones of a few self-chosen respresentatives, speaks for> itself.

    It is a disrespectful and selfish decision to plan Y et A nother

    Anac hronistic Pe ac e Fair when I know that I and o the rs hav e

    called for fair attem pts to try other strategies. The SDCPJ knows

    this, but not as well as anyo ne who reads this forum, read the

    objections to the strategies or has given them any heed.

    I admit that I failed to schedule my calendar to attend more than

    one SDCPJ meeting to r epresent my v iews. On the o ther hand,

    those who hav e attended, GPSD members and o thers, have

    known the calls from my self and others for different tactics. I t

    brings up issues of matu rity , flexibility and honesty abo ut o ne's

    efficacy when these calls are resisted in my presence and ignored

    when I'm absent.

    Should I feel like I need to go to a mee ting of either organization

    because mice will play when the cat is away ?

    > Rocky>> p.s. How difficult would have been to ask the organizing committeefor> March 17th to assign the Green Party the speaking slot and we willget> back to you after Greens have indicated who they want to speak forthem?> How difficult would have been for those in attendence to table Rick's> alternative suggestion for a lousy two-weeks (until the next meeting)> so that attendees could have spoken with their fellows in the> organizations they represent?

    Good Question.

    > As my book will show....this is the tragedy of the left in San Diego.> If we are afraid to ask more of others who are supposed torepresent us,> how can we ask (or even expect more) of ourselves?>>> On Wed, March 7, 2007 7:11 am, Hugh Moore wrote:> > Thanks for your input Tim. SDP&JC will welcome all persons whowant to> > attend. I agree with Tim that Greens should attend the meetingthemselves> > if they want a particular opinion expressed.

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    No, we should no longer have to.

    > > Of course, it would be great> > for the SDCGP to have an elected representative who would bring> > information from the SDP&JC to us but that volunteer should notbe the one> > who tries to bring information/perspective/vote for SDCGP to theSDP&JC.> > Any individual can do> > that for themselves and the coalition is supported by local groupsbut is> > a coalition of individuals. Continued thanks to Ann. Peace, HughMoore> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Tim Casebolt [mailto:timc2@...]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:14 PM> > To: gpsd-council@...> > Subject: Re: [gpsd-council] Electing a Green to SDP&JC> >> >> > Hi All,> > I've tried to weigh the sentiments expressed on this subject over

    the last> > couple of days and will offer my thoughts. I generally agree withRocky> > about tactics and Ann about our involvement with the SDCPJ.> >> > First of all, the council list is not just for Council members toexpress> > themselves but for any Green that is subscribed. Ken - pleasedon't feel> > that something needs to be taken to buzz in order for you toweigh in.> > Likewise, there should be consensus amongst Council listsubscribers that

    > > a topic should be opened on the buzz list. This was an agreedupon> > protocol.> >> > As for our involvement with the Coalition, Ann has been the onlyGreen> > consistently attending meetings. She does so as an individual

    Green. I> > spoke> >> > with her minutes ago and agree that to have an officially elected> > representative that must seek consensus from the GPSDBEFORE speaking on

    > > our> >> > behalf or voting when necessary, would effectively lock out anyGreen> > from voting or being part of their consensus process. Things aredecided> > at the Coalition meetings and if Ann had to withold a vote untilshe got> > approval from the rest of us, the vote would take place withouther.

    All go od attor ney s sho uld hav e the c apacity to well and fairly

    represent and advoc ate opinions that are not their own. I

    believ e A nn has been uite c a able o f that .

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    > > There> > are no other "elected" reps from organizations on the Coalition.Whoever> > shows up to their meetings is able to be a part of the decisionmaking> > process. If Ann couldn't vote until we told her how to vote on a> > particular item, 5 people from the ISO who were there, forexample (only),> > would be able to vote and no Green would be voting. While it

    seems a more> > democratic process to have elected reps that confide in their> > constituencies before voting, it is an unworkable situation as the> > Coalition is currently formed.> > I have total confidence in Ann speaking on our behalf and wouldrecommend> > that, if anything, we give her a vote of confidence to do so in the> > future. I know she has the best interests of the GPSD at heart.That> > doesn't mean we> >> > will agree with her opinions all the time, but, as has been pointedout

    > > many> >> > times before, any Green is free to go to Coalition meetings andexpress> > themselves and vote when votes are called for. A much morepractical> > approach would be to get more Greens to attend their meetings,whether we> > agree with each other or not. For the last couple of years, Annhas been> > reporting at GM and Council meetings what she is involved with inthe> > Coalition. She has sought approval> >

    > >> > before officially endorsing anything, as was the case when wewere> > recently asked to endorse the March 17 demo and have our namelisted on> > the flyer. She has secured a table for us at the rally and agreed topay> > the $25 donation requested for the table. At their last meeting,the> > lineup of speakers for the rally was sought from those attendingand Ann> > voluteered to> >

    > > speak for the Green Party. We haven't always been alotted aspeaker at> > these> >> > events and in the past, Gary Waayers and Bob Nanninga spokeon our> > behalf. Not because they were elected to speak for us butbecause there> > was a level of confidence placed in them as active Greens. IfRocky> > attended the last Coalition meeting and asked to speak, I wouldapplaud> > his efforts and be glad that people would hear a Green Party

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    .> > would be a different story if a Green that few of us knew wanted tospeak> > for the GPSD.> >> > Anyway, I feel it would be really impractical for us to require thata> > Green> >> >> > rep to the Coalition should have to get approval before expressing

    > > themselves as a Green and voting when necessary. Besides, Idon't think> > Ann> > always speaks or votes as our representative, but rather, as anindividual> > involved in the antiwar movement who attends Coalition meetings> > regularly. Other Greens are certainly encouraged to go theirmeetings and> > help frame the debate about strategies and tactics, which Ibelieve is at> > the heart of this issue.> >> > Tim

    > >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: rocky@...

    > > To: gpsd-council@...> > Cc: [email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM> > Subject: Re: [gpsd-council] Electing a Green to SDP&JC> >> >

    > >> > Ken: I am not on the Council either. I have petitioned the Councilto> > hold an election for an official representative on the P&J Coalition,with> > certain responsibilities and obligations to report and gather inputfrom> > Greens before voting or making decisions.> > I propose that all registered Greens be allowed to vote for their> > representative; so, of course, this discussion should go on thebuzz list .> >> > rocky

    > >> >> > On Tue, March 6, 2007 8:09 pm, Ken wrote:> >> >> I would like to comment on this, but being that I'm not a memberof the> >> council, I believe that it would be appropriate to move this> >> conversation to Buzz.> >>> >> Any objections to that?> >>> >>> >>> >> KB

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    > >>> >>> >>> >> Ann Menasche wrote:> >>> >>> >>> Actually, the way it is now, SDCPJ is a coalition of both> >>> organizations and individuals. No organization has an "official"> >>> representative, though someone may be affiliated with a groupthat

    > >>> supports SDCPJ - and we would look a bit ridiculousdesignating one.> >>> Often, more than one> >>> person from the same group attends, and its not always thesame> >>> person(s) - if we in the Coalition are unable to reach aconsensus> >>> and we have to move toward a vote, it is one person, one vote,not one> >>> organization, one vote. Thus, everyone who attends meetingshas an> >>> equal say, whether they are affiliated with a group or not.> >>>> >>> I don't know what you mean by speaking on behalf of the

    Green Party -> >>> I> >>> identify myself as a Green party member as others attendingSDCPJ> >>> meetings may identify themselves by organizations they areaffiliated> >>> with. I also presented the petitioning campaign at a Coalition> >>> meeting as an official Green Party campaign. I check with the> >>> County> >>> Council or the> >>> membership meeting prior to informing the Coalition that theGP> >>> endorses particular demonstrations or other SDCPJ events. Ialso try> >>> to give regular updates at County Council meetings andGeneral> >>> meetings.> >>>> >>> Otherwise, I don't pretend to speak for all Greens, which wouldbe> >>> impossible in any case, since we are a diverse group (which isas it> >>> should be).

    On the contrary , that is the effect when y ou do not ex press

    opinions different from y our o wn to the SDCPJ. Deny ing that is

    sophistry.

    > >>> I propose that we do not elect an "official" representative but> >>> encourage more Green Party members to get involved inSDCPJ and/or in> >>> other sections of the organized peace movement. If we have> >>> disagreements with present tactics, let's be there on theground> >>> floor to express our views rather than criticizing from theoutside.

    "Outside" co mpared to what? Compared Jo e Six-Pack that cho se

    to his kid's schoo l's St. Patrick's da fair instead of to the Peace

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    Fair in Balboa Park who sees the 1 5 sec ond blurb on the 6 p.m.

    news and thinks it's a waste of time and e ffort ? How long have I

    been in the GPSD whic h othe rs allege is part o f this c oalit ion?

    How much mo re work would Rocky and I inside the GPSD have to

    do to legitimize our o pinions?

    > >>> I also think your proposal of checking with GP members beforeany> >>> consensus or vote at SDCPJ (the coalition moves immediately

    to a vote> >>> if we can't reach consensus), is completely unworkable. Wewould just> >>> end up abstaining on everything.> >>>> >>> Right now, we need Greens to help in a number of ways,including:

    > >>> (1) staff a table at the March 17th rally;> >>> (2) march with us with the Green Party banner on March 17th(such> >>> Green> >>> visibility among anti-war activists can only help our futureelectoral

    > >>> campaigns); (3) volunteer to do high school leafletting - I've> >>> signed up for one day (we're making a special effort the weekbefore> >>> the march) and would love for Greens who are supportive ofProject> >>> Yano's work to> >>> make a similar commitment; (4) do petitioning for the GPpetition to> >>> cut funding - the rally is a great place to reach lots of anti-war> >>> supporters, but outside Trader Joe's or other places whereordinary> >>> people congregate works as well.

    I say leadership is more than requesting other's to follow.

    > >>> ANN> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Original Message]> >>>> From: rocky@...> >>>> To: gpsd-council@...> Date: 3/4/2007 6:46:58 PM> >>>> Subject: [gpsd-council] Electing a Green to SDP&JC> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Ann: I appreciate your incredible work on the Coalition. Andwill> >>>> vote for you if you decide to run for the representativeposition.> >>>> However, the Peace and Justice Coalition is a collection ofgroups> >>>> and organizations not individuals - even though a few power> >>>> liberals have made it that way. (You forget, I was at theorginal> >>>> meeting). Just as the Affordable Housing Coalition is not a

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    > >>>> coa on o n v ua s u groups. ou represen youradvocacy> >>>> group; I, the renters union. The Green Party has no "official"rep> >>>> on the Housing Coalition, though we should.> >>>> Just the fact that you took it upon yourself to speak for theGreen> >>>> Party without asking, or, even informing us, speaks for itself. I> >>>> would prefer a firebrand young student Green - sort of, put anew> >>>> face on the local Green Party.

    > >>>>> >>>> I hereby petition the County Council to conduct an electionfor an> >>>> "official" representative to the Peace and Justice Coalition.> >>>> (1) That said representative report monthly on the activities,> >>>> votes, consesus decisions.. (2) That said representativeremind> >>>> other Coalition members they> >>>> represent groups and organizations and make every effort to> >>>> ascertain the wishes of fellow Greens using buz and councillist> >>>> serves (a) absolutely before any vote (b) hopefull, before any> >>>> consensus> >>>>> >>>> in love and peace, rocky> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> On Sun, March 4, 2007 5:30 pm, Ann Menasche wrote:> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rocky -Just to let you know I was at the meeting youmentioned

    > >>>>> when Rick> >>>>> made his proposal. We discussed it and at the end, agreedto do> >>>>> both -> >>>>>> >>> do> >>>> >>>>> the rally, plus a major attempt to mobilize people for> >>>>> counter-recruitment and have a bigger presence at the high> >>>>> schools the week before the rally. My feeling as that of thelarge> >>>>> majority of> >>>>>

    > >>> people> >>>> >>>>> who were there (I think everyone except for Rick) is thatboth> >>>>>> >>> strategies> >>>> >>>>> are important and reinforce each other and there was noreason to> >>>>> counter-pose the two. Visible marches that show thebreadht and> >>>>> depth of opposition to the war also have an impact onmilitary> >>>>> recruitment and on the soldiers and veterans. (see Ron

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    Kovic,> >>>>> Born> >>>>> on the Fourth of July regarding how the visible peacemovement

    > >>>>> during the Vietnam war impacted his thinking). As part ofthis> >>>>> multi-tactical approach within a> >>>>>> >>> general> >>>

    > >>>>> strategy of building public support for bringing our troopshome> >>>>> now, SDCPJ is also planning a major teach-in in April.> >>>>>> >>>>> That being said, I cannot function in a coalition representing> >>>>> the GP> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> (or> >>>> >>>> >>>

    > >>>>> any other organization for that matter) if I have to check first> >>>>> everytime a tactical decision is made. Only by being at the> >>>>> meeting> >>>>>> >>> can> >>>> >>>>> one have the benefit of the discussion that occurs at the> >>>>> meeting. And> >>>>> since SDCPJ operates on modified consensus, like we do,there are> >>>>> often> >>>>>> >>> no> >>>> >>>>> votes taken - we simply reach a consensus.> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I see no need to elect a representative to the coalition fromthe> >>>>> GP.> >>>>> Instead, we should encourage as many Greens as possibleto> >>>>> participate> >>>>>> >>> in> >>>> >>>>> the SDCPJ. I also don't see the need for "party discipline"

    when> >>>>> it> >>>>>> >>> comes> >>>> >>>>> to these type of decisions. Individual Greens active in any> >>>>> form of Coalition work should be able to vote theirconscience (as> >>>>> long as we> >>>>>> >>> are

    > >>>> >>>>> acting consistently with our 10 key values) - not necessarily

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    in> >>>>> one block. Of course, if we have consensus on a campaignof our> >>>>> own - i.e.,> >>>>> the petition drive, for example, it would be good if Greenscould> >>>>> help promote it in all the work we do.> >>>>>> >>>>> Because of my leadership role in the Coalition, the GP hasbeen> >>>>> invited to have a speaker at the rally. I would like to be the> >>>>> person to speak, since I have put in so much effort into this> >>>>> Coalition work, while> >>>>> (unfortunately, in my view) no other active Green has been> >>>>> consistently involved. If there is objection for me speaking,> >>>>> we should probably take a poll of the Council.> >>>>>> >>>>> ANN> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [Original Message]> >>>>>> From: rocky@...> >>>>>> To: gpsd-council@...> >>>>>> Cc: [email protected]; prcsandiego@... ;> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> bob2046mcc@...> >>>>>> >>>>>

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: 3/4/2007 8:52:23 AM> >>>>>> Subject: [gpsd-council] Need to "Officially" Elect Green to> >>>>>> SDP&JC> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Greens:> >>>>>> Below is an e-mail from Rick Jahnkow, a tireless person of> >>>>>> conscience, who works with the Committee on Militarismand the> >>>>>> Draft, on his> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> concerns

    > >>>> >>>>>> over the rut our local peace movement is in. While Annhas done> >>>>>> a tremendous job over the past years, representing theGreen> >>>>>> Party> >>>>>> informally at the Peace and Justice Coalition Meetings; weneed

    > >>>>>> to formally elect an "official" representative who is charged

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    > >>>>>> with giving the Green Party - through the buzz list serve - a> >>>>>> full-report on the discussions, directions and dissent within> >>>>>> the Coalition.> >>>>>> Also, since the Coalition is technically a gathering of> >>>>>> organizations, our representative must insist thatdecisions be> >>>>>> delayed so the representatives can canvass theirmembers.> >>>>>> Especially, in decisions of> >>>>>> the importance and magitude like Rick's suggestion to

    actually> >>>>>> do something (target recruitment efforts) rather than> >>>>>> unobtrusive, feel-good marches around Horton Plaza orhiding in> >>>>>> the park. I realize that the present "regular attenders" have> >>>>>> come to consider themselves> >>>>>>> >>> as> >>>> >>>>>> the leaders - and they are, to a certain point, based ontheir> >>>>>> incredible sacrifice of time and energy. Yet, Rick'scourageous> >>>>>> suggestion about change in focus, should have beendiscussed> >>>>>> in the wider peace community of San Diego. Our newGreen> >>>>>> representative should make clear from the get-go that anymajor> >>>>>> decisions must be judged and "seasoned" (to use aQuaker term)> >>>>>> before being agreeded upon. I am asking County Councilmembers> >>>>>> to hold an official election for our new representative -please> >>>>>> volunteer to be considered. Thanks. Rocky.> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>>> >>>>>> From Rick Jahnkow:> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> This piece below echoes what I said a month ago to theSan> >>>>>> Diego> >>>>>> activists who met to decide how to commemorate thefourth

    > >>>>>> anniversary> >>>>>>

    > >>> of> >>>> >>>>>> the invasion of Iraq. At that meeting, I argued that it was> >>>>>> important> >>>>>>> >>> to> >>>> >>>>>> think more strategically than they have been in the pastand to> >>>>>> focus mainly on affecting the flow of personnel into the> >>>>>> military, especially via military recruiting. The war makers> >>>>>> don't care about simple marches and rallies (or even about> >>>>>> Congress), but

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    > >>>>>> their plans, which includes Iran.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> As you all may know, the group rejected my proposal tomake the> >>>>>> main focus of the invasion anniversary a mass leafleting of> >>>>>> 20-30> >>>>>> high schools on March 19 (the actual anniversary), andchose> >>>>>> instead to put major energy into organizing yet another> >>>>>> stereotypical march and rally on March 17. There were

    some> >>>>>> statements of support for high school leafleting from theMarch> >>>>>> 17> >>>>>> planning group, but there's been no> >>>>>>> >>> "surge"> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> of volunteers for leafleting and it looks like only 3-4 schools> >>>>>> will be reached the week before March 17--the SAMEaverage

    > >>>>>> number that the> >>>>>>> >>> SDCPJ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> h.s. leafleting project has always been able to reach forthe> >>>>>> last> >>>>>>> >>> year.> >>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile, in the

    > >>>>>> rest of the state and other parts of the country, somesectors> >>>>>> of the peace movement are increasingly embracing> >>>>>> counter-recruitment and GI organizing, and in L.A. onMarch 19,

    > >>>>>> organizers will close down the nation's largest military> >>>>>> induction center.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Wake up, San Diego!> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>> Rick Jahnkow> >>>>>> Project on Youth and Non-Military Opportunities,> >>>>>> www.projectyano.org and Committee Opposed toMilitarism and the> >>>>>> Draft, www.comdsd.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------> >>> --> >>> --> >>>> >>>

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    > >>>> >>>>> ---> >>>>> --> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "DEATH" OF CONGRESS SHIFTS WEIGHT OF> >>>>>> WAR RESISTANCE MORE HEAVILY ON MILITARY> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> By Nick Mottern, Director, ConsumersforPeace.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> One can argue that Congress died as a representativebody on> >>>>>> Feb.> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>>> >>>>> 16-17,> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2007 when it went on record as doing nothing to withdrawU.S.> >>>>>> forces from Iraq. Statements of the Democratic leadership> >>>>>> about the war> >>>>>>

    > >>> since> >>>

    > >>>>>> then> >>>>>>> >>>>> can> >>>>>> >>>>>> be compared to the chattering of microbes in a cadaver.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The Congressional Iraq failure made it even more clear that> >>>>>> Congress> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> will

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> not block an attack against Iran, despite mountingevidence> >>>>>> that such an attack is likely within a few months if notweeks.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> And nothing can be expected from Congress to reduceU.S.> >>>>>> military involvement in Afghanistan, which, in the shadowcast> >>>>>> by the death toll in Iraq, is becoming a war and occupationwith> >>>>>> no foreseeable end, a

    > >>>>>>

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    > >>> war> >>>> >>>>>> possibly spreading into Pakistan. Indeed, the Afghanistan> >>>>>> Plus> >>>>>> war seems to have wide support in the Congress.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Impeachment, a possible war deterent, say twoCongressional> >>>>>> aides of anit-war Congresspeople who prefer to remainanonymous,

    > >>>>>> is not on a> >>>>>>> >>> back> >>>> >>>>>> burner, it is not even on the stove.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thus, in the absence of representative government, thetask of> >>>>>> ending> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> the> >>>>>

    > >>>>>> U.S. occupation of Iraq, and escalation of violencegenerally,> >>>>>> is falling immediately, directly and heavily on the shouldersof> >>>>>> those

    > >>>>>>> >>> whom> >>>> >>>>>> the military is trying to recruit and those already in the> >>>>>> military.> >>>>>>> >>> Put> >>>

    > >>>> >>>> >>>>> simply:> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No soldiers, no war.> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> This development is exemplified in the February 13"Appeal to> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Conscience"> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> of retired Army Col. Ann Wright, issued at a time when itwas> >>>>>> becoming> >>>>>>

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    c ear> >>>>>> >>>>>> that Congress would very likely not reverse the escalationof> >>>>>> any of the wars:> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> "I appeal to the conscience of US Air Force and US Navypilots> >>>>>> and military personnel who command cruise missiles andpilot

    > >>>>>> bombers and those who plan the missions for the pilotsand> >>>>>> missile commanders. I ask that they refuse what I believewill> >>>>>> be unlawful orders to attack Iran."> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The shift in antiwar burden to the military is also seen inthe> >>>>>> report in The (London) Sunday Times of February 25:

    > >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack

    on> >>>>>> Iran is> >>>>>> becoming increasingly likely before President GeorgeBush leaves> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> office.> >>>> >>>>>> The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and> >>>>>> admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they> >>>>>> consider would be a> >>>>>>> >>>>> reckless

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> attack."> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The newspaper said also that: "A generals' revolt on sucha> >>>>>> scale would be unprecedented."> >>>>>>> >>>>>> It is also important to note that on February 23, the USArmy> >>>>>> refiled charges in its widely publicized case against FirstLt.> >>>>>> Ehren Watada> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> for> >>>> >>>>>> refusing to deploy to Iraq and for conduct unbecoming an> >>>>>> officer, accusing him of making statements critical of thewar> >>>>>> or George W. Bush> >>>>>> on four occasions. Lt. Watada faces six years in prison.His> >>>>>> first trial ended> >>>>>>> >>>>> in> >>>>>

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    > >>>>>> a mistrial earlier in February. At that time he planned to> >>>>>> testify that> >>>>>>> >>>>> he> >>>>>> >>>>>> wanted to avoid committing war crimes by fighting in anillegal> >>>>>> war.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The current political situation presents a huge challenge to

    > >>>>>> anti-war groups to undertake sustained systematicgrassroots> >>>>>> education,> >>>>>>> >>>>> particularly

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> among people most involved in the wars or likely to be> >>>>>> involved. This> >>>>>> likely means long-term plans for touring in low-income ruralas> >>>>>> well as urban areas and to military bases, with education> >>>>>> relying on personal contact and not dependent on presscoverage.

    > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> At least three major tours/campaigns are now beingorganized to> >>>>>> begin to address this need.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Before discussing them, however, it is important to notethat> >>>>>> the next major national event in anti-war mobilization,marking> >>>>>> the fourth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, will be a rally> >>>>>> for ending the war> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> and> >>>>>> >>>>>> for impeachment on Saturday, March 17 at the Pentagon.While> >>>>>> the rally, organized by ANSWER, is directed at Congress,it also> >>>>>> is> >>>>>>> >>> intended> >>>> >>>>>> to> >>>>>>> >>>>> inspire

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> local organizing, bringing people from more than 200> >>>>>> communities across> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> the> >>>>>> >>>>>> country to Washington.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The rally will give a major push to impeachment,incorporating> >>>>>> the message of Impeach 07, a group of organizations thatcame

    > >>>>>>

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    > >>>>>> impeachment, in large part to create additional pressureon the> >>>>>> Bush/Cheney Administration to> >>>>>> stop war.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On the same day as the march on the Pentagon, Veteransfor> >>>>>> Peace

    > >>>>>> and will hold an anti-war demonstration at Fort Bragg in> >>>>>> Fayetteville North> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Carolina,> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> followed the next day by workshops and presentations.During> >>>>>> the> >>>>>>> >>>>> remainder

    > >>>>>> >>>>>> of the month, Veterans for Peace will conduct a bus tour> >>>>>> visit ing five> >>>>>>> >>>>> other> >>>>>> >>>>>> military bases in the South. Members of Iraq VeteransAgainst> >>>>>> the War> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> will> >>>>>

    > >>>>>> also participate. (See itinerary below.)> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Also on March 17, the national Make Hip Hop Not WarTour will> >>>>>> begin with the march on the Pentagon in Washington, DCand then> >>>>>> get underway for the University of New Hampshire inManchester.> >>>>>> Over the next month> >>>>>> it will visit at least 16 cities and towns from coast to coast> >>>>>> and> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> back,> >>>> >>>>> concluding> >>>>>> >>>>>> April 21 in Baltimore, Maryland.> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> One of the main goals of the tour is to: "Create a new

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    network> >>>>>> of young people, primarily from low-income communities

    and> >>>>>> communities of color to respond to calls for action againstwar> >>>>>> and nuclear proliferation." One aspect of the tour, whichwill> >>>>>> use a bus, will be "'Community> >>>>>>> >>> Drive-bys'

    > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> in> >>>>>> >>>>>> conjunction with door-to-door canvassing by local partner> >>>>>> organizations where the bus will add 'street value' to> >>>>>> traditional outreach." (See itinerary below.)> >>>>>>> >>>>>> In an extremely important development, Iraq VeteransAgainst> >>>>>> the War is> >>>>>> beginning to organize a national campaign that will,according> >>>>>> to a draft fund-raising letter:> >>>>>>> >>>>>> "1. Mobilize active duty service members to resist theillegal> >>>>>> occupation> >>>>>>> >>>>> of> >>>>>> >>>>>> Iraq,> >>>>>> "2. Amplify the voices of veterans who say that this war isnot> >>>>>> winnable, and "3. Persuade young people consideringmilitary

    > >>>>>> service> >>>>>>> >>> that> >>>> >>>>>> they should think twice before serving in this war."> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The campaign will begin with weekend training sessionsfor IVAW> >>>>>> members. "At these intensive retreats," the letter says,"our> >>>>>> members will learn about the strategic concepts of ourcampaign> >>>>>> and how they

    > >>>>>>> >>> can> >>>> >>>>>> be turned> >>>>>>> >>>>> into> >>>>>> >>>>>> practical opportunities for action at the local level."> >>>>>>

    > >>>>>> The campaign will focus on National Guard troops as wellas> >>>>>> regular military as these troops are expected to beengaged in

    > >>>>>>

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    allowing> >>>>>> "back to back"> >>>>>> deployment.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> For more information on this campaign contactwww.ivaw.org.

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    - Hey , ev ery one! I was at the founding m eeting of the Peace and

    Justice Coalition and it was formed as a coalition of organizations

    and groups. I will giv e...

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    ... Ju stice ... g roups. I ... a sk ... for ... a ... What th e majority

    in th e SDCPJ choose to ignore is the say ing Insanit y is doingthe same thing over and...

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