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Who Anna Hazare? What Jan Lokpal Bill?April 7, 2011 by constantmotion

Coming to my own blog after a very long time. Must admit have been very busy and

when not busy, then lazy.  But today I had to leave all work and laziness aside because

the cause I wanted to write about and support by writing about, is very close to me.  It’s

about this man called Anna Hazare and Jan Lokpal bill. I must also admit that I am

writing this post from the comfort of my home with a stomach full of food. I am not

fasting nor am I sitting in the April Sun in Delhi’s Jantar Mantar. That way I am an

armchair activist (like so many others) but I wanted to write about this and contribute in

whatever way possible.

Who is Anna Hazare?

Kisan Bapat Baburao Hazare or Anna Hazare, is a social activist and a social worker.

He used to work as a driver in the Indian Army and has been greatly influenced

by Swami Vivekanada, Ghandiji and Acharya Vinobha Bhave.  He is especially

recognized for his contribution to the development of Ralegan Siddhi, a village in

Ahmednagar district, Maharashtra.

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After voluntary retirement from the army, Hazare came to Ralegan

Siddhi village in 1975. Initially, he led a movement to eradicate alcoholism from

the village. Next, he motivated the residents of the village

intoshramdan (voluntary labour) to build canals, small-scale check-dams and

percolation tanks in the nearby hills for watershed development; efforts that

solved the problem of scarcity of water in the village that also made irrigation

possible. He helped farmers of more than 70 villages in drought-prone region in

the state of Maharashtra since 1975.  He also motivated the residents of the

village to build a secondary school in the village through voluntary labour.

Below is the Wikipedia based information on the entire anti corruption crusade started by

Anna.

Lokpal Bill movementIn 2011, Anna Hazare led a movement for passing a stronger anti-

corruptionLokpal (ombudsman) bill in the Indian Parliament. As a part of this

movement, N. Santosh Hegde, a former justice of the Supreme Court of India and

Lokayukta ofKarnataka, Prashant Bhushan, a senior lawyer in the Supreme Court along

with the members of the India Against Corruption movement drafted an alternate bill,

named as the Jan Lokpal Bill (People’s Ombudsman Bill) with more stringent provisions

and wider power to the Lokpal (Ombudsman). Hazare has started a fast up to death

from 5 April 2011 at Jantar Mantar in Delhi, to press for the demand to form a joint

committee of the representatives of the Government and the civil society to draft a new

bill with more stronger penal actions and more independenceto

the Lokpal and Lokayuktas (Ombudsmen in the states), after his demand was rejected

by the Prime Minister of India Manmohan Singh.

The movement attracted attention very quickly through various media. It has been

reported that thousands of people joined to support Hazare’s effort. Almost 150 people

are reported to join Hazare in his fast. He said that he   would not allow any politician to

sit with him in this movement. Many social activists including Medha Patkar,Arvind

Kejriwal and former IPS officer Kiran Bedihave lent their support to Hazare’s hunger

strike and anti-corruption campaign. This movement has also been joined by many

people providing their support in Internet social media such as twitter and facebook. In

addition to spiritual leaders Swami Ramdev,Swami Agnivesh and former Indian

cricketer Kapil Dev,  many bollywood celebrities like Shekhar Kapur, Siddharth

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Narayan, Anupam Kher, Madhur Bhandarkar, Pritish Nandy, Priyanka Chopra, Prakash

Raj,Aamir Khan, Chetan Bhagat showed their public support through twitter. As an

outcome of this movement, on 6 April, 2011 Sharad Pawar resigned from the group of

ministers formed for reviewing the draft Lokpal bill 2010.

Anna Hazare started his “Fast until Death” at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi, stating “I will

fast until Jan Lokpal Bill is passed”

The movement gathered quite a significant amount of support from India’s youth visible

through the local support and on social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter.

Background of the movementThe movement started due to the resentment because of the serious differences

between the draft Lokpal Bill 2010 prepared by the government and the Jan Lokpal Bill

prepared by the members of this movement, which has received significant public

support:

Draft Lokpal Bill 2010

1. Lokpal will have no power to initiate suo moto action or receive

complaints of corruption from the general public. It can only probe

complaints forwarded by LS Speaker or RS Chairman.

2. Lokpal will only be an Advisory Body. Its part is only limited to

forwarding its report to the “Competent Authority”

3. Lokpal will not have any police powers. It can not register FIRs or

proceed with criminal investigations.

4. CBI and Lokpal will have no connection with each other.

5. Punishment for corruption will be minimum 6 months and maximum

up-to 7 years.

6. Lokpal will have powers to initiate suo moto action or receive

complaints of corruption from the general public.

7. Lokpal will be much more than an Advisory Body. It should be granted

powers to initiate Prosecution against anyone found guilty.

8. Lokpal will have police powers. To say that it will be able to register

FIRs.

9. Lokpal and anti corruption wing of CBI will be one Independent body.

10.The punishment should be minimum 5 years and maximum up-to life

imprisonment.

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11.Lokpal will not be a monopoly for particular area

Jan Lokpal Bill

1. Lokpal will have powers to initiate suo moto action or receive

complaints of corruption from the general public.

2. Lokpal will be much more than an Advisory Body. It should be granted

powers to initiate Prosecution against anyone found guilty.

3. Lokpal will have police powers. To say that it will be able to register

FIRs.

4. Lokpal and anti corruption wing of CBI will be one Independent body.

5. The punishment should be minimum 5 years and maximum up-to life

imprisonment.

6. Lokpal will not be a monopoly for particular area

Now the question arises, why Jan Lokpal bill is so important.

Source: http://indiaagainstcorruption.org/

Jan Lokpal, an independent body  that would investigate corruption cases, complete the

investigation within a year and envisages trial in the case getting over in the next one

year.

Drafted by Justice Santosh Hegde (former Supreme Court Judge and present Lokayukta

of Karnataka), Prashant Bhushan (Supreme Court Lawyer) and Arvind Kejriwal (RTI

activist), the draft Bill envisages a system where a corrupt person found guilty would go

to jail within two years of the complaint being made and his ill-gotten wealth being

confiscated. It also seeks power to the Jan Lokpal to prosecute politicians and

bureaucrats without government permission.

Retired IPS officer Kiran Bedi and other known people like Swami Agnivesh, Sri Sri Ravi

Shankar, Anna Hazare and Mallika Sarabhai are also part of the movement, called India

Against Corruption. Its website describes the movement as “an expression of collective

anger of people of India against corruption. We have all come together to

force/request/persuade/pressurize the Government to enact the Jan Lokpal Bill. We feel

that if this Bill were enacted it would create an effective deterrence against corruption.

A look at the salient features of Jan Lokpal Bill:

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1. An institution called LOKPAL at the centre and LOKAYUKTA in each state will be set up

2. Like Supreme Court and Election Commission, they will be completely independent of

the governments. No minister or bureaucrat will be able to influence their

investigations.

3. Cases against corrupt people will not linger on for years anymore: Investigations in

any case will have to be completed in one year. Trial should be completed in next one

year so that the corrupt politician, officer or judge is sent to jail within two years.

4. The loss that a corrupt person caused to the government will be recovered at the

time of conviction.

5. How will it help a common citizen: If any work of any citizen is not done in prescribed

time in any government office, Lokpal will impose financial penalty on guilty officers,

which will be given as compensation to the complainant.

6. So, you could approach Lokpal if your ration card or passport or voter card is not

being made or if police is not registering your case or any other work is not being done

in prescribed time. Lokpal will have to get it done in a month’s time. You could also

report any case of corruption to Lokpal like ration being siphoned off, poor quality roads

been constructed or panchayat funds being siphoned off. Lokpal will have to complete

its investigations in a year, trial will be over in next one year and the guilty will go to jail

within two years.

7. But won’t the government appoint corrupt and weak people as Lokpal members?

That won’t be possible because its members will be selected by judges, citizens and

constitutional authorities and not by politicians, through a completely transparent and

participatory process.

8. What if some officer in Lokpal becomes corrupt? The entire functioning of Lokpal/

Lokayukta will be completely transparent. Any complaint against any officer of Lokpal

shall be investigated and the officer dismissed within two months.

9. What will happen to existing anti-corruption agencies? CVC, departmental vigilance

and anti-corruption branch of CBI will be merged into Lokpal. Lokpal will have complete

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powers and machinery to independently investigate and prosecute any officer, judge or

politician.

10. It will be the duty of the Lokpal to provide protection to those who are being

victimized for raising their voice against corruption.

To summarise, we can say, it will give more power to RTI act, corruption will be tackled

and dealt with quickly, whistle blowers will (most likely) also get some protection for

raising their voice against corruption.

________________________________________________________________________________________

There are many sections in the society who belive that Anna’s crusade is politically

motivated or BJP might be behind all this. To set the record straight, let me add that

Anna’s crusade is India’s crusade and is not politically motivated. In fact, Uma Bharti

and Chautala were turned away when they wanted to join Anna.  According to Anna, the

politicians can come, sit amidst the public, listen to Anna’s speech and go away.

Politicians will not be allowed to share the stage as he does not want any political colour

to be given to his crusade and thereby maligning this noble cause.  He also went ahead

and said that his crusade is completely non-violent like Gandhiji who protested by going

on hunger strike against every wrong in the society. Anna being a staunch Gandhian, is

following the same path of hunger strike because all other avenues are closed.  His

crusade is not against the government nor does he want to create any political

instability.  He trusts no political party and wants to have a dialogue with either Sonia

Gandhi or Manmohan Singh. It clearly shows that Anna believes no one other than these

two people in the entire government or the political setup of the country. Sonia Gandhi

or Manmohan Singh should not waste time in addressing this issue which has mobilised

the entire nation.

According to Anna, this a 2nd freedom struggle for our country. Struggle to free our

country from petty gains and  greed.

My support to Anna.

For more information you can read

indiaagainstcorruption.org

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For list of scams you can read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_political_scandals

For corruption Index of various countries for 2010 you can read this

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results

By the way, India ranks very high on corruption.  And like they said in the film, Rang De

Basanti, “Koi bhi desh perfect nahi hota, usse perfect banana padta hai.” Anna’s step is

a step towards that. Lets support him.

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1. on May 28, 2011 at 10:58 am | Reply nitin

hello!

2. on June 4, 2011 at 6:11 am | Reply roshan taara

I SUPPORT WHOLE HEARTEDLY, HOPE NO ONE TRIES TO BRIBE THIS NOBLE MAN.

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3. on June 5, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Reply sudarsan sahu

IT is only way gourd corruption in INDIA and should be implemented ASAP

4. on June 6, 2011 at 6:21 am | Reply R Shankaranarayanan

The seed is always there, but the season comes to INDIA to cultivate the corruption and

Black money style, Lets the i hope the forecast is favour to all of our nation to became a

developed country.

Please see the Education must equal all over India, then only all will obey their duty,

obey their money, obey their nation.

When one want became a politician he must pass

JAN LOKPAL EXAMINATION.

5. on June 6, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply po

NEW DELHI: Tensions between the ruling party and civil society activists went up a

notch on Monday as the Congress virtually rejected Gandhian Anna Hazare’s demand

for “videographing” or telecasting proceedings of the joint committee drafting the

Lokpal bill.

“Let us not allow form to take the place of substance. Please do not put conditions and

pre-conditions which might obstruct the basic objective,” Congress spokesperson

Abhishek Singhvi said.

“Statesmanship and maturity is required from stakeholders,” the spokesperson said,

adding that such conditions and preconditions could not be allowed which would inhibit

candid discussions. “Transparency should not become hypocritical decision-making

without candour. Therefore, balancing is important.”

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6. on June 20, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Reply udeshpal singh mann

you guys have no clue what is the meaning of democracy. lokpal will freeze all political

and civil sevice systems. it will be the most corrupt system.you will see what a disaster

it is going to be.why do u need lokpal ? dont u have c b i ? vigilance ? police ? judiciary?

who will judge the lokpal? lokpal will become so powerful that it will become like the

chinese red party.it will be the most corrupt monster india has seen.u guys get so

emotional that u forget we have one of the few functional democracies in the world.and

u want to weaken it.why does not anna fight election and speak in parliament?same for

ramdev.if they have such a following people will make them pm

7. on June 23, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Reply Buddhdev Pandya

Let me try sir. I do not live in India. So I can understand some bits. So let me think

brother. It defeats the logic. It is ok to have commissions and committees, we have

learned from the British Raj and it works to a point and keeps opposition something to

do. But what is the point of having a parallel system when the one that already exists is

failing us and not working? Or is it getting hot as more people are now caught and sent

for trial the ever before? Do you mean that the Loakpal — someone bigger than the post

of the PM will have more powers? And that too not elected, by the why who will

nominate and who will appoint? I think, perhaps the idea is the eminent people will have

to do the job. Best let us get the Army to do the job as they do in Pakistan.

The Parliament, the law making and accountability forum should be the supreme body.

Judiciary is independent but what makes us think that the both in and out of power

politicians and rich party supporters would not reach or infiltrate in to the system.

One can can keep our Manmohanbhai or Snia out of the system but do you think for a

moment that the RSS and BJP or Congress or for that matter Ramdev Baba supporters

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will sit quietly twiddling their thumbs? Prosecution, investigation and trial judges all

have been kept separate to prevent abuse. Imagine, if we accept the one stop shop

approach. I am sure we will see all the BJP in power and leave RSS to hold keys to all the

posts as Loakpal people ( Some will go to Babaji and the Civil Society). Congress, of

course will be arrested, tried and sent to jail for few decades. There will not be an issue

such as — if proven guilty — see the BJP report on Sonia and his family with allegations

of Swiss money. In the end Advanji had to apologis to Soni for naming them in the

report? But it is ok we are Indians and she is after al a foreigner in our civil land. We

cant tolerate Italians who try to run our country can we? We are not Americans where

they can afford to have a Black man and that a Muslim background elected at its

highest office. We are still in the dark ages of politics.

So, brother I was thinking, who would be so clever and honest Loappal except our

beloved Annji or do you have some one in mind who is so far hiding as an eminent per-

son? I like to see a job description.

Some one said we must get some eminent people but you see it is the eminent were

the corrupt people,T that is why we needed the bill in the first place? Not just

politicians?

You need to think more about the politicians. Do you think they only come in the shapes

of an MP or an MLA. I think they are like you and me. We are all politicians. Look it is like

this, you are writing a letter on political issue. So are we going to include journalist,

politician or a social worker or just plain Indian who wants to influence politician deci-

sion?

Confused? Let me explain, we hate politicians so we look for some other people. But,

how you would identify if some one is not a politician. Put is this way; It is best to say

that all those supporting Congress are corrupt and politicians. Any one supporting BJP is

a social worker, RSS a spiritual sevak and the rest can easily fit with Baba Ramdev as

yogi or social worker or businessmen. Thus we have some honest and eminent people

to consider. And, you would not like any journalists as they are very honest and would

like the position, it can damage their business.

I am still think¬ing, why would the Indian people take power from one group of people

and hand over to another body, knowing full well that most will claverly leave their jobs

and position and put a Gandhi cap and join the new body! Or are you thinking of import-

ing honest people trained in law and investigation from the NRI’s who will be happy to

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join the new group. This may be good idea to prevent the corrupt lawyers, police inves-

tigators, judges and civil servants joining the Loakpal team. What a wonderful idea? Let

us give some NRI’s some jobs. I still want to know who is this Loakpal hiding among all

the corrupt people of India claiming honesty and eminent at the same time. Are you

that person!!!!!!

8. on June 23, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Reply Buddhdev Pandya

Let me try and explain. It is Congress Party that is trying to introduce the Loakpal Bill.

Every government consult on new Bill. In UK we call Green Discussion paper and the

White Paper containing consolidated draft of the possible draft to be put to the

Parliament. It is this process allows Annaji or Baba Ramdev or others to express their

views. No one can take that away. The Party in power has its own views but as a

Government they need to take in to political, historical and other practical issues. That

dialogue is in progress. The Government can’t just agree with one source of feed back.

The political parties and the State Government also needs to have public debate and

provide their views to the Government – many are silent. It is to have weak workable

proposal that can be approved by the Parliament rather that demands that sabotages

the chances or reduces the authority of places democratically and the elected

governing body.

By disrupting and ‘mud slinging’ on the very government that is trying to introduce the

Bill which incidentally none of the previous government had the courage to do, is unfair.

If the Bill goes through, it can be amended by others in the future. But we know it will

be a father in the cap for the Congress. So all the moves have so far exposed the base

line motive that is to disrupt and demorolise the efforts of the Government. the danger

is that the position parties with no views to express and firm agenda. I had considerable

sympathy and respect for Annji initially. He named politicians and then went on to

damage limitation and with Babaji and his supporters, all that and what followed has

created huge doubts about the motives.

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In most countries no matter they feel about individuals or political opponents, at times

they work and co-operate with the government to get a bill on statute book that can

work. On the issue of Loakpal’s powers and authority, I am not in favor of Annaji’s

thoughts and tactics; may sound tough but put the democracy into disrepute in the

eyes of the general public. I still feel he is more closer to BJP and perhaps RSS or he

would have been taken to political cleaners by both of these groups. His attacks on the

Government when he should be working with the Government has create, at least in my

mind that that is more to then getting the Bill made stronger. It is defiicult to pretend

but what we see in the media here in the UK, has clearly forced me to rethink of Anna’s

approach for one stop shop. This is not a disrespect for Annaji or his core support group

but a clear political response as done by his own people over his praise of Mr Narendra

Modi.

o on August 23, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Reply srinivas raghavan

sir but can we get back all the black money ??????? ,,

what these bloody politicians like sonia ,,,,,,,,,etc have????

9. on June 23, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Reply Buddhdev Pandya

I think that must be a better monitoring system in place for the failing public agencies

and government departments. If can only be achieved by engaging the work force and

introducing better quality monitoring and rewarding system for efficiency and

commitment to provide leadership. We do not have them in India. The workforce must

own the agenda and be part of the process and will need skills and understanding.

Witch hunt and punishment comes later when an individual fails to improve.

We have huge number of trained managers now coming out of our educational and

technical establishments. Many are preparing to go and work for the firms in the USA

and UK where that is a very strict work ethics. The teaching and training institutes must

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demand such attitude an perfections. I see young people from India applying for jobs in

UK and they have excellent approach to adopt to a new culture and ethics. I do not see

why that is not encouraged in India. There is a huge pool of skills and emotions that can

be channeled to provide better quality services.

The other area that needs to improve is to understand the existing systems and learn to

develop ‘audit’ methods and trained people who can objectively look at the skills

development and capacity to deliver better systems to bring improvements.

It is very disappointing that frankly we are ‘follow the crowed’ culture and built in to the

system for centuries that still are looking for a person in Gandhi cap to perform a magic

wand such as Loakpal to swing over heads and hoping it will go away.

Recently a group of activities in the Manipur district in India protested in support of a

hunger striker against the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA). There have been

many killings in the area and the police was helpless in tackling crime. Following

demands for action, the special force was deployed with backing of the law that allowed

soldiers posted in the area to detain any civilian on suspicion. At least in this case, the

Armed Forces are accountable to a Ministry and eventually the Parliament through the

Minister.

In Delhi, the Government used police – rightly or wrongly – to remove Baba Ramdev and

we all cried foul, accusing the authorities of violation of human rights and an attack on

the democracy. Imagine a structure where its operators are not accountable to any one

and has full powers to detain any civilian on suspicion of corruption, prosecute and

punish.

Some of you may hate Congress and Gandhi family or Mahatma Gandhi for that

matters, but that goes with the territory if you are in a BJP or RSS camp. But we should

look beyond few personalty or hate spasms as there are many Political issues are often

a two edged sward and needs to be treated above any party political considerations or

scoring petty points. Let us look at some of the points:

1 The State Government – While the Central Government is consulting how many state

government actually have consulted their people and prepared proposals?

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2. The existing legal system can have a branch to support Loapal as a Commission

provided it remains within the constraints of the Supreme Court. As you said Supreme

Court is independent, so why demand something outside it.

3. You have to prove people guilty first. How can you place a limit on investigation, it

will be half bodged job or incomplete. ( Investigations in any case will have to be

completed in one year. Trial should be completed in next one year so that the corrupt

politician, officer or judge is sent to jail within two years.) This is a wish that every chief

ministers wants. Easy to talk if you then do not come out and demand human rights

violations.

4.( How will it help a common citizen: If any work of any citizen is not done in prescribed

time in any government office, Lokpal will impose financial penalty on guilty officers,

which will be given as compensation to the complainant.) – Yes it they have an income –

try consulting trade unions to agree this. The cost of recovery and impact on the

extended family of a civil servant will be intolerable to the tax payers. Another Anna will

turn up to claim government atrocities. Not a good idea, every village and cities will

have widows and orphans as many will be in jails. Build more jails.

6. (So, you could approach Lokpal if your ration card or passport or voter card is not

being made or if police is not registering your case or any other work is not being done

in prescribed time. Lokpal will have to get it done in a month’s time. You could also

report any case of corruption to Lokpal like ration being siphoned off, poor quality roads

been constructed or panchayat funds being siphoned off. Lokpal will have to complete

its investigations in a year, trial will be over in next one year and the guilty will go to jail

within two years).- so tax payers spend more money on new structurs, more staff and

another structure of new ‘honest’ politicians, where we will find them,?

7. (But won’t the government appoint corrupt and weak people as Lokpal members?

That won’t be possible because its members will be selected by judges, citizens and

constitutional authorities and not by politicians, through a completely transparent and

participatory process.) Come on on which plant you live on. Where judges and

authorities are corrupt who do you think they will appoint? Citizens – you mean selected

people with a label given to them by the local powerful people as ‘eminent and honest’.

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8. (What if some officer in Lokpal becomes corrupt? The entire functioning of Lokpal/

Lokayukta will be completely transparent. Any complaint against any officer of Lokpal

shall be investigated and the officer dismissed within two months.) I think that is also

done now and what makes you thing it will not be conveniently transferred to Loakpal. It

is a good wish.

9. (What will happen to existing anti-corruption agencies? CVC, departmental vigilance

and anti-corruption branch of CBI will be merged into Lokpal. Lokpal will have complete

powers and machinery to independently investigate and prosecute any officer, judge or

politician.) I like the idea. First you call them crooks, unmanageable and then bring

them under one umbrella under whose control? Thus a Dictator will be created. If he or

she or a small group some how high jacks the Loakpal we all will be doomed…Even the

FBI is not that much independent. It is cross checked by CBI and other agencies. A

pathetic idea

10. (It will be the duty of the Lokpal to provide protection to those who are being

victimized for raising their voice against corruption.) So he/she will control police too?

Well done.

To summarise, we can say, it will give more power to RTI act, corruption will be tackled

and dealt with quickly, whistle blowers will (most likely) also get some protection for

raising their voice against corruption.) Try Gujarat – Amit Shah read all about his

Loakpal activity and think if we ever get to the stage where we will go? Poor

Manmonhan and Sonia with the young Rahul will be in jail claiming his innocence by

then!

In other wards we will have some appointed people, appointed by some more appointed

people and wise citizens to manage as -one stop shop – ! You do not need Pakistan to

send any one to blow up anything in India any more, you lot will do it to the parliament

on your own.

I think What ever it is all this is a pie in sky. an attempt to frustrate the Government.

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10.on June 23, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Reply Buddhdev Pandya

I read an article in

FIRST LINE

Volume 28 – Issue 13 :: Jun. 18-Jul. 01, 2011

INDIA’S NATIONAL MAGAZINE from the publishers of THE HINDU

It took my breath away. So here it is on B&W.

Proxy battles

VENKITESH RAMAKRISHNAN

The Baba Ramdev episode deals heavy blows to the credibility of not only the Congress

and the BJP but also civil society groups

THE intervention of civil society groups in mainstream politics has acquired a

qualitatively new dimension with the agitation against corruption launched by Anna

Hazare in April and the follow-up to it by the self-professed spiritual guru Baba Ramdev

in June. At the same time, the new dimension also threatens to undo the very benefits

of the engagement. To start with, the movement has become more aggressive in a

physical sense, complete with police action against civil society activists. The

proclamation by Ramdev about raising a “fighting force for self-defence” has added to

the turbulence.

Another qualitative dimension is the increasing exploitation of the so-called “neutral”

civil society groups by the two mainstream political forces in the country – the ruling

Congress and the principal opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) – to advance their

own agendas. The exploitation is such that it could well be termed as reverse

intervention. In the net political situation thrown up by these developments, the two

parties and civil society groups stand to lose their credibility significantly. In this

context, questions about the stark deficiencies in terms of political creativity in the

leaderships of the Congress-led ruling dispensation and the BJP have come up. In fact, it

was the emergence of this qualitative dimension that resulted in the turbulent night at

Ramlila maidan in New Delhi on June 4-5. A little past midnight on that day, armed Delhi

policemen descended on the venue where Ramdev and his supporters, who had

apparently gathered there to stage a hunger strike on the issue of black money, were

sleeping. The police reportedly resorted to a lathi-charge and fired tear gas shells after

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detaining Ramdev. The days preceding the police action were marked by secret and

not-so-secret parleys between Ramdev and some senior Ministers of the Manmohan

Singh-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government, including Pranab Mukherjee

and Kapil Sibal. The discussions reportedly revolved around the main demand of

Ramdev, that immediate action should be taken to bring back the black money stashed

away in foreign tax havens.

However, the run-up to the police action as well as the events that followed it made it

more than clear that Ramdev and the senior Ministers had entered into an

understanding not only about the demands but also on the question of how and when

the agitation would be called off. By all indications, this understanding was not

implemented in its entirety. Sibal went to the extent of stating that Ramdev had gone

back on his word after giving an assurance about the withdrawal of the agitation.

This alleged “backing out” by Ramdev as well as the events following the night of June

4-5 have brought into focus the possible penetration by the Rashtriya Swayamsewak

Sangh (RSS)-led Sangh Parivar, including its political arm the BJP, into the yoga guru’s

organisation, the Bharat Swabhiman Trust, and his agitations.

According to Home Minister P. Chidambaram, the Centre is convinced that this is part of

a well-planned subversive move by the Sangh Parivar. A statement issued by him

pointed out that the government had taken note of the resolution passed by the Akhil

Bharatiya Pratinidhi Sabha of the RSS on March 10-13 at Puttur in Karnataka declaring

the formation of an “Anti-Corruption Front” with Baba Ramdev as its patron and former

BJP leader K.N. Govindacharya as its convener. Chidambaram also pointed out that the

RSS affiliate, the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), had decided on May 12 to

float an organisation called Youth against Corruption to coordinate with Ramdev.

Chidambaram also stated that a circular was issued on May 20 by Suresh Joshi of the

RSS to all swayamsewaks (volunteers) to render all possible cooperation to Ramdev’s

campaign. Similar instructions were issued on May 28 by Ashok Singhal, general

secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), another affiliate of the Sangh Parivar.

The developments following the midnight swoop on the Ramlila grounds, particularly

the manner in which Ramdev reached Haridwar (Uttarakhand) and continued his

agitation there, has somewhat corroborated the Home Minister’s observations. The

Sangh Parivar has been the most important source of support for the yoga guru. So

much so that the top leadership of the BJP, including the Leader of the Opposition in the

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Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj, made prominent appearances at the venue of his hunger

strike against corruption.

According to a section of the Congress leadership, including party general secretary

Digvijay Singh, who has run a sustained campaign against the yoga guru, his activities

and his organisation, all this is part of the long- and medium-term efforts that the Sangh

Parivar has made to build up a civil society platform against the Congress and its allies.

“The Sangh Parivar has been at this for quite some time and they have used different

faces and different organisations to advance this strategy. Why they are doing this is

anybody’s guess. In all probability they are convinced that their own political outfit, the

BJP, has lost all political and moral credentials to advance an anti-corruption struggle of

this sort,” Digvijay Singh said. Incidentally, he had raised doubts about Anna Hazare’s

credentials too, when the Gandhian staged a fast against corruption in April.

Whatever may be the final verdict on Digvijay Singh’s observations, there is little doubt

that the Sangh Parivar, particularly the BJP under its current president Nitin Gadkari, has

made systematic efforts to reach out to non-governmental organisations (NGOs) in

various spheres of social and cultural life ranging from anti-corruption campaigns to

environmental awareness drives to swadeshi promotion to abolition of caste inequities.

In fact, a number of Sangh Parivar observers had cited these enhanced activities

involving NGOs and pointed out in the past few months that this could well be the new

political-organisational thrust of the Sangh Parivar, especially in the context of its failure

to fulfil its political role as the principal opposition. This assessment gained greater

credence in the face of the BJP’s repeated failures to highlight and corner the Congress-

led UPA government on the several corruption and misappropriation scams in the past

two years. Even during the Anna Hazare-led agitation, many politicians and observers

had pointed to the large presence of Sangh Parivar activists in the day-to-day

management of the agitation.

Interestingly, sections of the ultra-Hindutva groups also affirm that Ramdev’s agitation

was essentially a proxy social and political battle fought by the Sangh Parivar

leadership. Comments that have come from the ultra-Hindutva web group the United

Hindu Front essentially mean that the “RSS mindlessly gave its entire cadre strength,

middle-level leaders, etc. for the bogus movement of Anna Hazare” and that “when

RSS-BJP realised that they were totally used and thrown, they retaliated with the Baba

popularity card, and the galvanisation was stupendous”. “But”, a commentator adds,

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“the man [Baba Ramdev] was not up to the task, and it was obvious that the

government was up to no good.” Comments on the webpage also assert that the RSS

made a mistake when it deputed the firebrand Hindutva sanyasin Sadhvi Rithambara to

the venue of Ramdev’s agitation for it impelled many people, particularly the secular

supporters of the anti-corruption agitation, to move away from the movement.

All these corroborate the contention of Digvijay Singh. On its part, however, the

leadership of the Sangh Parivar has pointed out that it is the Congress that has

consistently sought to rope in NGOs and social activists associated with these groups to

advance its political aims. According to BJP leader Rajnath Singh, the UPA under its

current chairperson Sonia Gandhi has literally outsourced all thinking and law-making

on major policy issues to an elite group, which has been incorporated into the National

Advisory Council (NAC).

“It is through this mechanism that Sonia Gandhi wields her illegitimate status as a

super-Prime Minister, thus usurping the power and authority of legitimate constitutional

position-holders and institutions,” he said. He added that a number of veteran political

observers had pointed out that the “idea of putting a non-governmental watch over

your own government undermines the very idea of elected, constitutional democracy”.

Another BJP leader, who did not wish to be named, pointed out that the Congress and

the UPA government had sought to play politics even with Ramdev. “The manner in

which four senior Ministers led by Pranab Mukherjee, the number two in the Cabinet,

went to the airport to receive Baba Ramdev and engaged him in dialogue was a clear

effort to create divisions in the ranks of the civil society groups that had come together

during the Anna Hazare-led agitation. The idea was to prop up Baba Ramdev against

others in civil society groups. But this game plan failed to take off,” he pointed out.

Whether one agrees with this assessment or not, there is little doubt that the UPA

government made a spectacle of itself by first sending a high-level delegation to

negotiate with Baba Ramdev and later cracking down on him and his supporters.

Whatever the later justification for this, the contradictory actions highlighted the total

lack of political creativity in the Congress and the UPA. A senior South Indian Congress

leader, who spoke on condition of anonymity, stated ruefully that Pranab Mukherjee was

the only remaining political mind in the top echelons of the party and he too was

faltering and seemed to be losing his touch under the double duress of the apolitical

leadership provided by Manmohan Singh to the government and Sonia Gandhi to the

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party.

In a nutshell, the events of early June underscored the lack of political vision on the part

of mainstream parties and the absence of creative socio-political intervention by them.

The events have also dealt a heavy blow to the credibility of civil society groups, which

were thought to uphold probity in public life.

Clearly, these are interesting times, as the Chinese say…..

11.on June 24, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Reply chandra p oberoi

sir,ur artical can be easily understood now even by a lay man WHAT IS JAN LOK PAL

BILL.I feel today is the need for having such a bill that has shaken not only the corrupt

govt having a series of scams but having an attitude of a dictator that reminds us of

HITLER.ANNA ha sawakened the youth n the prople of the country from a long slumber

of ignorance ,helpless ness to raise voice againstthe anarchy of govt in centre n

states,we wanted to have a self less true patiot leader n that god sent in the form of

AHHA HAZARE seeing the oathetic picturre of india going to shatter mercilessly by the

so called rulers.i do believe that all the demands of the bill may not be accepted BUT

MAINLY BRINGINNING THE P.M,CABINET,N BOTH THE MEMBERS OF LOK N RAJAY

SABHA.INCLUDING C.BI N POLICE MUST COME UNDER THE AMBIT OF jan lok pal

bill.LEAVING THE JUDICIARY THAT TOO SUPREMECOURT GIVING IT AUTONOMOUS

POWERS.this is the 1st time in the history of free india that we r finding justice done to

the criminal of V.V IP by THE SUPREME COURT.so ,every dog has its day .we needto

change the system n the currupt ppl not the govt.i m sure we ill succeed to have a

glorious.bharat which is full of its true ,honest devotees to serve the nation india THE

BHARAT.

12.on June 29, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Reply AYUSHI PRAGYA

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ANNA YOUR OUR SECOND GANDHI………. MADE ME REALIZE IN WHICH TYPE OF CORUPT

ENVIRONMENT AM I LIVING IN.MY SUPPORT WILL ALWAYS BE THE WITH YOU.

YOURS RESPECTIVELY

AYUSHI PRAGYA, AGE 16

13.on July 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Reply Suraj Tripathi

I am supporting Anna and will be always.. as i found some people crying over

democracy and opposing Lokpal… What we get with this kind of democracy.. Most of

the corrupted ministers are getting caught by the Media in this government.. being a

general public we love Anna because he is fighting for us not for the rich people who

never encountered the problem of getting scolded by policemen, by politician…we are

common people who pays money in the form of taxes and these politicians are

looting….some one said there is judiciary, police, CBI..bla..bla… What they have done so

far till now. If the media didn’t reveal the truth,they were never serious about the

matter. and even there are many misters prevails in the party who are corrupt..Just

hiking the prices of fuels, gas, diesel..why don’t they cut their bill of having free services

like food, travel expenses, home services and etc.. ultimately i support Anna and never

ever give my vote to these corrupt politicians..i am sure if currently the election will be

conducted…the government will not be able to get a single vote.

14.on July 12, 2011 at 10:06 am | Reply AMISHA

anna posses a great courage his work is a real inspiration for every common man

it inspires us that if we have to get the rights alloted to us by the constitution, we need

to snatch it because none of the ministers’ gift it to us.

salaam to anna

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15.on July 22, 2011 at 5:02 am | Reply Guest

Anna Hazare should become our next PM

16.on July 29, 2011 at 10:23 am | Reply mahendragode

As each and every common person facing corruption, but he has no right to take a

action against corrupt people, By joining this movement we will support anna hazare

movement.

17.on August 1, 2011 at 10:39 am | Reply Gopal Khandelwal

Today in Press/media ,Kapil sibbal admitted that referendum was accepted only by 85%

why not 100%, I would like to remind him in 15% people like him are not

covered .Hence it ‘s not a matter of jock and there is nothing funny.Arab ‘s are fighting

for their right if people awoke from their sleep this 15% stand no where hence it is

advisable to be wise and should understand what is happening neighbourhood

18.on August 2, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Reply R K Shrivastava

I want to support Anna ji from Bhopal . But not knowing how to support. My feeling is

that we should not indulge in any argument about bad or good of jan lokepal bill and

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support it blindly because it is demand of the present time. If any thing bad is their in

jan lokepal bill it will be looked after latter on when time will come, which will take

another 5 to 10 year. But as we see, presently in spite of most honest PM we are facing

most carruepte govt. this it self shows that present system needs to be changed so let

us change it by jan lokepal bill. Its fault will be seen latter on when time will come.

Demand of present time is jan loke pal bill

19.on August 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Reply aastha sharma

ll be with u anna,,,,so motivated by the features of this Bill n your undying attitude,,,in

your support

aastha sharma age 17

20.on August 12, 2011 at 10:17 am | Reply Babita Yadav

i dont care who you Anna Hazare ,what you do for living,

i dont care if he is a marathi,or some shit,

i dont care if he stands up against corruption,

i dont care if he calls a fast again,

he just a publicity freak,and wan’t to make money just like congress/BJP freaks.

o on August 20, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Reply Nayaz

if he wants to make money. he would have grabbed a lot baby. by his way of

leaving we can get to know he is least interested in money. he is not married. he

is fighting for everyone.. We support Anna Hazare. he is fighting for everyone and

for changing lives of india.. when we were small we use to study in schools as ”

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INDIA IS A DEVELOPING COUNTRY” even our kids are studying the same and this

continues further if corruption is not stopped.

o on August 22, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Reply raj aryan

@babita yadav- stop ur bullshit babita yadav…dnt tok anythng abt anna..m

supportng him..agar support nai karna hai to beech me ungli bhi mat

karo..samjhi…he’s fuckng fighting 4 our benefits n rights..he wants india 2 be

corruption free ok..just coz of sm morons lyk you our india wil never progress…

21.on August 13, 2011 at 10:16 am | Reply shruti bajpai

we are very lucky that we have a personality like Anna who is fighting for us in this old

age and taking so much pain. if he at the age of 74 is doing so much hard work and

have so much energy then why shouldn’t we???now its an opportunity for us to serve

our nation and eradicate corruption from our country ..i m with Anna for supporting this

noble cause …

Shruti Bajpai

KANPUR

22.on August 13, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Reply Gyaneshwar Kumar

The momentum developed by the Anna’s team against corruption through out the

country must be kept on in order to develope a better place to leave for future

generations of INDIA

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23.on August 13, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Reply Chetan Gotharwal

Hello Indians ,

Ek chhoti si tendency hai hamare desh me ki bhagat singh paida hona chahiye lekin

padosi k yaha na ki khud k ghar me .

Just forget fear just chear and take dare.

My support to Mr.Hazare .

Regards

Chetan Gotharwal

Age 25

Indore M.P.

24.on August 14, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Reply SHILPA ROY

I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT

25.on August 15, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply Suresh

Suresh Jadhav,

hello India.

anna hazare k kilap sarkar ko kuch bhi suj nahi raha or unke anshan par rok lagane k

liye nayi nayi tarkibe aazma rahi he, esi baat se saaf ho jata he ki sarkar koun si bhi ho

wo brasht to hoti hi he tabhi to election me amir logo ko hi set milti he, unko pata he aaj

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paisa lagaye to kal kai zyada paisa milega

esi ko lagam lagane ke liye pardarshkta ki zarurat he to anna ne awaz uthai he or Es se

corruption ko lagam lag jata he to government or baki k netaon ko milkar eska

samrthan karna chahiye JANLOKPAL BILL ko pass karna sarkar ka bi farz banta he.

I AM ANNA HAZARE

Regards,

Suresh jadhav

N11 hudco

Aurangabad.

26.on August 15, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Reply Snehal

i really like this article. i am giving 100% support to Anna Hazare. Today so many

corruption avail in India. I really feel proud to having people like Anna who raise voice

strongly against Corruption. Anna’s aim is removing or even destroy Mud of corruption

from India. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT

27.on August 16, 2011 at 6:00 am | Reply Deep

The Maharashtra government had instituted a commission of inquiry under Justice PB

Sawant in September 2003 to inquire into allegations of corruption and

maladministration against several people, including four ministers and the Hind Swaraj

Trust run by Hazare.

28.on August 16, 2011 at 6:04 am | Reply Monika

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audited accounts were not submitted to the Charity Commissioner for 1998-2002

29.on August 16, 2011 at 6:38 am | Reply Lakshminarayana

Why government not against corruption?

Why government trying to subsidy the movement?

It clearly shows that Government wants corruption to be continued.

30.on August 16, 2011 at 6:59 am | Reply raj chauhan

Till now what happened it happened but from nowonwards if we are not still with Anna

Hazare we ourselves responsible for our corrupted system…

By arresting Anna Hazare government itself shows that noone from us have right to say

anything against the system.

It just a shame act by government.

I am in full support to Anna Hazare.

31.on August 16, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Reply Alok pandey

Is govt ne tanasahi ki had kar di inhe muhtod jabab dena jaroori hai.anna tum sanghrsh

karo hum tumare saath hai….

32.on August 16, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Reply Archana Singh

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I supportet to Anna ji he is great and such a socalist activist he is doing a great work for

us……….. “ITS TIME TO CHANGE OUR SYSTEM” friends corruption is just like insect

which is week to our basic pillars of the our system…….!!!!!!

33.on August 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Reply shruti

Shame on Indian govt…

time to change indian govt….

shame on congress …….

millions of indians support anna hazaare

34.on August 16, 2011 at 8:20 pm | Reply zeenat kauser

Democracy loser nw tend 2 b autocracy winner n their mass destruction weapon is jan

lok pota bill. Agent Hazare is 1 stop shop 4 ur Indian version klu klux klan. Just stop

playing n spoiling common man emotion n dragging d country 2wards vicious

zone.”Kuch bas na chala to jaan de di kya chal chalein hain doob ke marne wale.”

35.on August 16, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Reply Ujjawal Jjain

every Indian shoul know this

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36.on August 17, 2011 at 3:38 am | Reply santosh kumar

Its a Historey In India .wich will be written in future for our next generation to proud

about that a single old man .who brought a revalution in india .no bodey never been

raised a voice for this issue .He is the man wich india looking for to bring the small

change .I am using a word small change because its onley a 1st step to bring india its

lost glory. To wake up people and say lets ask our rights not for us for Our coming next

generation ,they can live better life than us .hats up to the youth who joined this

movement largley .Please politicians change urs attitued .for our nation future .i requst

all the people to vote the right man

37.on August 17, 2011 at 5:25 am | Reply HAV/CLK(SD) CHINMAYA NAYAK

ANNA U R OUR SECOND GANDHI…………………..

YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND INDIAN JAWAN’S PROBLEM

SO YOU MAY PLEASE BE SUPPORT……………. AFTER LOKPAL BILL………………………. MAY

GOD BLESS YOU AND MY TEAM……………………………..

MY SUPPORT WILL ALWAYS BE THE WITH YOU………………

JAY HIND……………

38.on August 17, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply priya

our second gandhi i support anna hazare n is movement

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39.on August 17, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Reply tabarak jharkhand

Definitely, we support hazare.

40.on August 17, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Reply Raazi Anchal

i think, i must want 2 support him….

41.on August 18, 2011 at 4:37 am | Reply ananda

anna we r all with u,this is the first step towords,proper india.so i think all indians should

suport to the anna .see the politicians,r trying to cross the peple,is it right? so all come

as possible from work,and suport ourself. thank u..

42.on August 18, 2011 at 9:03 am | Reply Jyoti Pattanaik

We must all to support Sri Anna Hazare because to free our country from corruption ,we

need an effective anti-corruption Bill (Jan Lokpal Bill) but not the Joke pal Bill which the

Govt has tabled in parliament. We have the democratic right to protest /raise our voice

against Govt in peacefull manner or non-violation way which our constitution has given

us & even we have learnt from our father of Nation Mahatma Gandi .

People’s anger against Corruption is genuine because corruption like Cancer has

enrouted in Vein of people & started killing day to day life . People are frustrated & raise

their anger against politicians because neither they don’t have any kind of political will

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power to curv the corruption from our country for ever nor ready to take action against

corrupt people whether they are politicians , Bureacrates or any general public.

So we all need Jan lokpal ( in favour of Citizen of Country ) & we all must stand behind

Sri Anna Hazare to give our solidarity to fight all together to achieve the Goal of our Jan

Lokapal bill which should be passed in Parliament without any alteration .

Kindly every body should come forward & join hand with India against Corruption

movement lead by Sri Anna Hazare to make it success.

Jai Hind

43.on August 18, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply rahul

Hi all,

I want to know the difference between lok pal bill and jan lok pal bill .Iam confused

between the two ,So pls help me to understand the difference between the two on this

link-http://sawaal.ibibo.com/news-and-current-affairs/what-difference-between-lok-pal-

bill-jan-lok-pal-bill-1707017.html

44.on August 18, 2011 at 11:50 am | Reply sneha

There is my support also to Anna Hazareji……..Thank you very much Anna …for raising

this issue……

45.on August 18, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Reply Praveen

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As a personal i would support the cause but how is this practical..

It’s more like pulling the power from one hand & giving to another.This bill seems like

creating a new set crooks,or a new Dictator:(

46.on August 18, 2011 at 3:05 pm | Reply Pravin chougule

I am supported on Anna Hajare. Anna hajareji ko dekhe to muze 1947 ka Gandhiji yad

ate hai. Aj ke politics me itni gandi hui hai ki use sap karne ke liye annane mahtwapurn

hisa liye esiliye annaji ko deshwasi sada suport de. Anna is great.

47.on August 18, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Reply Pravin chougule

I suported Anna hajare & his team.

48.on August 18, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Reply kishori singh

Hi!!!

i want 2 request all indians 2 support Anna hazare after knowing that how “JAN LOKPAL

BILL” is imprtent for all indian………….now i m going 2 support Anna hazare bcoz now i

am wake up…………………..when u r going to wake up India???????????

JAAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

49.on August 19, 2011 at 8:29 am | Reply Kshore kumar

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hi all,

i support to (young) anna hazare for being a representative for whole nation against

corruption. we are behind him and support him till end………

50.on August 19, 2011 at 10:20 am | Reply Tushar Patil

Anna,

Hum Appake sath hai, Ajadi ki nayi jung shuru ho chuki hai

aakhir tak jan lada denge.

Yuva Jawan Kranti

From, Tushar Patil, Rajeeb Datta, Pune

51.on August 19, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Reply vijay

i am higly obliged of anna hazarreji that atleast someone raised voice against corruption

which become essential for middle class people.i really salute your movement against

corruption.

from,vijay mathuria, mehsana

52.on August 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Reply vivehthasrinivas.k

i support Anna! Every young Indian should be proud that always one hero rises to help

us when injustice arises….only thing he needs our support…..which i thing is our duty!

Be Indian! Jai Hind!

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53.on August 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Reply vivehthasrinivas.k

i support Anna! Every young Indian should be proud that always one hero rises to help

us when injustice arises….only thing he needs our support…..which i think is our duty!

Be Indian! Jai Hind!

54.on August 19, 2011 at 6:37 pm | Reply [email protected]

Hi

I’m sandeep Gusain

We must all to support Sri Anna Hazare because to free our country from corruption ,

we need an effective anti-corruption Bill (Jan Lokpal Bill) but not the Joke pal Bill which

the Govt has tabled in parliament.

YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND INDIAN JAWANS PROBLEM

MY SUPPORT WILL ALWAYS BE WITH YOU…………

i want 2 request all indians 2 support Anna hazare after knowing that how “JAN LOKPAL

BILL” is imprtent for all Indian…

From Sandeep Gusain New Delhi

55.on August 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Reply Goutam Bhadra

I support heartly Anna Hazare & his great jan lokpal bill.It is a very clear picture that our

central Government and even his team are totally corrupted.If not where is the problem

to pass this bill?I salute Anna for movement against corruption.I am behind

you(Anna).Thanks Anna.

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56.on August 19, 2011 at 7:17 pm | Reply Jyoti Pattanaik

Youth Voice is more powerful for each country & brings the historic change for Nation .

Nobady can stop / crackdown the youths democratic way of protest against any issue

like corruption . so we need

Jan Lokapal Bill ……….Only JanLokpal Bill………..

We got the chance to show our youth strenght against corruption of country.

Support to Sri Anna Hazare Movement which is called as our 2nd Freedom movement

perhaps country has seen ever.

Weak up ………Weak up ……..youth

Come to Ramlila Maidan & join in protest to show solidarity to Sri Anna Hazare for Jan

Lokpal Bill soon.

57.on August 20, 2011 at 6:13 am | Reply Girish Rajput

There is my support also to Anna Hazareji and his team,

jai hind jai bhart.

girish rajput gwalior (m.p.)

58.on August 20, 2011 at 6:49 am | Reply Guru Charan

I support whole heartly..It is now clear that whole government system is corrupt and

Anna hajare ji is God..I totally support his Jan lokpal bill.

Jai Hind.. Jai Bharat..

Bharat Mata Ki Jai.

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59.on August 20, 2011 at 7:34 am | Reply REEMA SHARMA, SANT NAGAR,

BURARI, DELHI

I strongly recommend that we have to support to Shri Anna Ji because he is the only

person who make a voice against non-stop corruption which is increasing day by day….

If we are not still with Anna Hazare we ourselves responsible for an corrupted system..

Why Govt. have silent??? People made Govt. & there is no right of people to do anything

against corruption…

Nobody hear their problems… Govt. must passed ‘Jan Lokpal Bill’ otherwise nobody

believe in Govt….& say ”’CORRUPTION IS THE NAME OF GOVT.”’

I salute Anna for movement against corruption.I am behind you ALWAYS….

REEMA SHARMA

SANT NAGAR,

BURARI, DELHI.

60.on August 20, 2011 at 7:38 am | Reply Mahesh Sharma, Sector 2,

Faridabad..

I fully support Anna ji! Every young Indian should be proud that always one hero rises to

help us when corruption arises….

only thing he needs our support…..which i think is our duty!

I request all Indians to support him for our coming generations otherwise they also face

much much problems in Corruption….

Be Indian! Jai Hind!

61.on August 20, 2011 at 8:15 am | Reply Vyankatesh

Catch my thoughts about The Jan Lokpal Bill

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62.on August 20, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Reply Haji Nayaz Khan Pathan BNMIT

ANNA is fighting for everyone.. We support Anna Hazare. he is fighting for everyone and

for changing lives of india.. ……………………………………………when we were small we

use to study in schools as ” INDIA IS A DEVELOPING COUNTRY” even our kids are

studying the same and this continues further, if corruption is not stopped. Lots of

politicians will be exposed by this, thats why they are not passing Bill.

63.on August 20, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Reply Rajeshwer Reddy

It is a second independent movement started by Anna Hazare. we Salute you Anna.dont

stop fighting against curruption .We all Indians with you.If Jana Lokpal bill is passed in

Parliament Our India will become Super power of the world.

If we bring back the block money from swis bank each village in India get 100 crores No

need to pay taxes for next 20 years.

64.on August 20, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Reply prashant n chirandas

Government is afraiding because, if they will pass the janlokpal bill in the parliamnet

then, there mp like A raja, Kalmadi, Kanimoji the daughter of Karunanidi, all this mp will

have to face the problems. So to save this persons the govt is not in the favour of

Janlokpal Bill.

If they will passed the Janlokpal Bill in the parliament then Govt, minister will have to

face lots of trouble, b’coz they all are corrupted so Govt, is not in favour.

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65.on August 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Reply vikrant

I support “Anna Hazare” becouse, he is the one who dare to fight against the

corruption……. We should support Anna, for our good future….

66.on August 20, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Reply jitendra dhamane

JITU DHAMANE

I think contitution made for country and country made by people of country, so if people

of country wants to Jan lokpal bill then what is the problem for people of governmnet if

they are not corrupt?

67.on August 21, 2011 at 3:00 am | Reply Dinesh Singh, Hindi translator

Hi anna ji ! your dream to free india from corruption will come true with in a few days.

That is my strong beleive. I support this movemnt with full heart and soul. Dinesh

Patwal.

68.on August 21, 2011 at 10:33 am | Reply N.Radha Ramana

Hi,

Jan Lokpal Bill is really a Big Relief for us from Corruption.

But at the same time, what if false complaints are forwarded to Lokpal or Lokayukta just

to trouble the Govt. Officers if they do not like them though they are upright officers?

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How will the Lokpal tackle this menace which is definitely going to pop up?

The Officer has to prove his credibility by going thru the process by substantiating his

innocence?

Is this not a traumatic experience for him though he is sure of coming out clean?

WHAT ARE THE PROTECTION MECHANISMS FOR THESE KIND OF FALSE COMPLAINTS?

69.on August 21, 2011 at 10:47 am | Reply Rohit Verma

I fully support Anna ji! Every young Indian should be proud that always one hero rises to

help us when corruption arises….

only thing he needs our support…..which i think is our duty!

I request all Indians to support him for our coming generations otherwise they also face

much much problems in Corruption….

JAI HIND JAI BHARAT…..

Regards….

Rohit Verma

9039797014

70.on August 21, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply M RAJAGOPAL

Jan Lokpal bill seems to be more preventive and proactive in nature.This takes up the

action on its own than any judicial procedure which does the job of post mortem type.By

this time ,the loss to the exchequer can not be averted due to slow nature of the judicial

system as it is now done in the case of 2-G Spectrum and CWG Scams.So the immediate

action to prevent any corrupt practices at the highest office/ministerail level by suo

moto method will be effective action as suggested in the Jan Lokpal Bill.Moreover the

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civil soceity can have its own watchdog services at various levels which will make the

Jan Lokpal more effective and timely action to be resorted.As I understand that our

Hon’ble Prime Minister wants more time to come to conclusion on Lokpal Bill ,keeping in

view ,he may to protect more and more RAJAS/KALMADIS who are in the pipeline .He

may like to enter into the Guinees Books of records.Hats of to Dr.Manmohan Singhji.

71.on August 21, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Reply hemant kasera

i full support to anna, me bas itna kahunga ki vo ak sachche insan he, vo anna ke rup

me dusre gandhi he. jai hind jai bharat

72.on August 21, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Reply kurt cobain

People !!

Lokpal atleast promises some change. There are comments that Lokpal members would

become too powerful. Can the system really get worse than it currently is?? Let us dare

to hope for the upliftment of society.

Those who criticize obviously get 3 fruitful meals daily.

Our politicians are unbelievably rich (everyone knows that but nobody dares speak

about it)….. No corrupt politcian in his right frame of mind would dare approve this bill

for fear of hanging himself.

73.on August 21, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Reply Devendra patil

FEEL & SEE POWER OF AAM ADMI

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Full support to Anna from “RAIGAD DISTRICT”

“Jan lokpal” bill agar pass nahi hua

to……

SARKAR KO JANA HI PADEGA

Nahi jayenge To…..

“”30 tarikh ke din aise anshan aur andolan karenge ki pura india ghar ke bahar nikalkar

KENDRA SARKAR KO NICHE GIRAKE RAHEGA.”"

INDIA KE LOGO KA GUSSA AB puri Duniya dekhegi ..!”

jai hind…

74.on August 21, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Reply pankaj R. Parikh

I feel that as govt. is adamant to listen to wishes of people and egoistic about leave

about passing the Jan Lokpal Billl but not even willing to table the Jan Lokpal Bill before

the parliament, there should be some mechanism to call back elected Representative

and thereby the entire Govt. by way of calling back or De-Elect the Elected

Representtative, in case, they do not perform or do not stand true to the aspiration of

the electoral people or become corrupt etc. As there is provision in the Co-operative

Societies Act to convene Extra ordinary special General Body Meeting to consider any

Matter, about 20 % eligible people can call for Referendum for calling back Elected

Representative via internet Media on the basis of new AADHAR or UID card/no. given to

each citizen.

75.on August 22, 2011 at 6:50 am | Reply shambhavi chouhan

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SAY NO TO CORROPTION!!!!!!!

SUPPORT ANNA HAZARE

76.on August 22, 2011 at 8:18 am | Reply UDAYAN

ANNA JI WE SUPPORT YOU

77.on August 22, 2011 at 9:32 am | Reply babula bhai

dear anna ji im with you

78.on August 22, 2011 at 10:10 am | Reply kamal

i just want to say mr kapil sibbal ji aap bhi Anshan karo apne draft ke liye ramlila

maidaan se bade maidaan main coz apko lagta hai ki janta ne aap logo ko chun kar

bheja to obviously apke sath anna se jayada public hogi is liye plz anshan karo mr sibbal

……tabhi apko apki ahmiyat ka pata chalega ki aap kitne pani main ho …. aapki

constituency se bhi log nahi aayenge agar apne anshan kiya apne draft ke liye

to…………

plz is bill ko lao ya fir jaane ki tayari karo

i m anna

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79.on August 22, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Reply kamal

aaj rahul gandhi kahan gaya? jo youth ki bhartiya yuva pidi ki hamesha batein karta

hai………..

where r u lost mr rahul ?????? this is the time to come out and adress all youth about

this jan lokpal bill.

i m kamal

i m anna

80.on August 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Reply Phani

Sir,

With all due respects to Honourable Anna Hazare. I have some questions which may be

given as an input to the civil society. These are my own views and nobody else is

responsible for it.

(a) Firstly, What are the measures in the Jan Lokpal bill to prevent corruption than to

only check corruption after it is done? We have excellent Intelligence organisations

which are used against only terrorists/ miscreants. They may also be used against the

government servants. ‘Just to give my perspective, in erstwhile Russia, one civilian

officer used to be associated with the Naval ships whenever they sail out so as to check

and he should also be part of the major decisions taken by the captain and should ratify

them irrespective of the final decision is of the captain of the ship. So a Janlokpal rep

might be placed in all government offices.’

(b) Secondly what is the judiciary going to do? Will it handle criminal cases only?

Suppose there is a complaint against a Jan lokpal candidate can he be tried in the local

judiciary also.

(c) Will the new Janlokpal reps get paid by the government? so how much is going to

cost the taxpayer.

(d) Inspite of having so many checks and balances people are always circumventing the

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rules to make quick money?

(e) Will we ever see an India without poverty and everyone basic needs like food,

Clothing and shelter within one/two/three years of establishing Jan Lokpal?

(f) will Jan Lokpal also look into the existing practices such as for example an individual

pays far more tax in percentage than an organisation/ company. What is the Remedy

for this.

Personally I would like to see India without poverty. Every one should have the right to

food, shelter and clothing. I think we should amend our laws to ensure the above than

to check just the Corruption. The political system is in such a state of apathy that every

one wants to get only chair/power and make a quick buck. I would like to see self less

leaders than leaders just to win votes for their parties.

Also one word of caution for the rich. If there is a future war it will be between rich and

Poor and no amount of billions will save the greedy ones.

Mera Bharat Mahan.

81.on August 22, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Reply Shakeel Ahmad

sir

I have not seen Gandhi ji in my life, nor his agitation but after seeing Anna Hazare and

his mission and the way of agitation i full fil my dream to see Gandh ji.Anna ji is fighting

for the common cause of corruption which is deep rooted in our blood now. Anna ji is on

fast for betterment for the nation let we will fast at least one day for his health. I

request to Arvind kejriwal or Kiran Badi to Give a call to a one day fast.

82.on August 22, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Reply kamal

Sarkar UPA ki ho ya NDA ki agar vo is bill ko nahi lana chahte to iska saaf sa matlab hai

ko vo bhi kahi na kahi cuppuption se jude hue hain aur sirf yahi karan hai kki vo is bill ko

nahi lana chahte …..

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per now time is change india ki janta samjhdaar hai educated hai ………….. hum

(public ) blind nahi hai …….

sab dekh sakte hain aur sun sakte hain

i appeal to each and every citizen of india plz support anna plz support india ……

jan lok pal bill lao aur curruption bhagao in choro se desh ko bachao….

kamal

I m anna

83.on August 22, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Reply kamal

rahul ji kahan ho aap ? gandhi parivaar ki izzat rakho yaar azadi ki ladai main gandhi

parivaar ka bahut yogdaan raha.

per vahi gandhi parivaar aaj satta ke lalach main public ke samne aane se dar raha

hai……

naak mat katwao gandhians ki

shame on u mr rahul gandhi.

kamal

i m anna

84.on August 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Reply Palak Naik

Sir,

We are INDIAN . Our country need a changing. And the time of changing is so near. So

Sir, Anna Plz to be countinew . Indian young people are with yuo always.

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85.on August 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Reply arindamsaha60

I support Anna hazarre

86.on August 22, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Reply raj aryan

@babita yadav- stop ur bull-shit babita yadav…dnt tok anythng abt anna..m supportng

him..agar support nai kar sakte ho to beech me ungli bhi mar karo…bloody morons…

87.on August 22, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Reply Naushad Asad

Hi all

i md naushad from kuwait i want to support anna hajare from bottom of my heart. but i

cant do anything becoz i m not in india so plz sow me way to contrybute ur revolution.

thank u

88.on August 23, 2011 at 1:20 am | Reply akash bhutani

i am alwaya support to anna beacause young people open her eyes about their right

anna has been influenced by gandhi ji if the lok pal bill pass it is favour to the all public

so plz support anna & i proud to be an indian

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89.on August 23, 2011 at 4:34 am | Reply RAJESH KUMAR

WE BOLDLY SUPPORT JANLOKPAL BILL OF ANNA HAZARE. NOTHING LESS THAN THAT.

90.on August 23, 2011 at 7:52 am | Reply virendra

It is second Freedom Movement. First one we got the voting right to elect Government

though it was restricted by corrupt politicians mafias and mucslesman yet the gradual

development has bring us to this stage that to control them. voting should be our birth

right. Many changes requires in the constitution jan lok pal is begining. Money

accumulated in the past 63 years of corruption is require to bring back.

91.on August 23, 2011 at 8:10 am | Reply abhi

i personally feel it is required to pass more stong bill…..

92.on August 23, 2011 at 10:02 am | Reply gopinath

WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE ANNA HAZARE TO FIGHT AGAINST ANTI CORRUPTION .

SIR WE ARE ALWAYS WITH U TO FIGHT AGAINST ANTI CORRUPTION.

JAI HINDH

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93.on August 23, 2011 at 10:11 am | Reply gopinath

this is the time to unite all the media support to anna hazare to activate his movements

to public.so, let come and join anna hazare movement. and support him.

94.on August 23, 2011 at 10:55 am | Reply hussian shaik

we should follow anna hazare because he is helping us and for india he is a second

gandhi.I support you

95.on August 23, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Reply GANAPATHY SUBRAMANIAN

I SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT AGAINST CORRUPTION.JANLOKPAL BILL WILL DEFINITELY BE

VERY EFFECTIVE

96.on August 23, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Reply nupur singh deo

i want to know that if a member of the lokpal body is involved in corruption then where

will be the complain will register ?

o on August 23, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Reply kamal

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i dont understand for whom u are talking ….

but i wanna say if they are right and their draft is good then i just want to say mr

kapil sibbal ji aap bhi Anshan karo apne draft ke liye ramlila maidaan se bade

maidaan main coz apko lagta hai ki janta ne aap logo ko chun kar bheja to

obviously apke sath anna se jayada public hogi is liye plz anshan karo mr sibbal

……tabhi apko apki ahmiyat ka pata chalega ki aap kitne pani main ho …. aapki

constituency se bhi log nahi aayenge agar apne anshan kiya apne draft ke liye

to…………

plz is bill ko lao ya fir jaane ki tayari karo

97.on August 23, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Reply nupur singh deo

i do support anna

98.on August 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Reply Rajbir Singh

I request to all Hindushtani for supportt day our Anna Ji because he and his team make

a voice against corruption

If Govt and hisbody not pass Anna’s ‘Jan Lokpal Bill’ nobody believe in Govt…and if

Anna supporty voice not leasen to Govt them Neta Ji Subhash Chander Boss New Ajad

Hind Fooj against corrution will also come in frunt and this govt is responcable for that

So Please Manmohan Ji do not think on wait and watch policy because AAJ GHANDI JI KE

TOP JANTA NE PAHNI HAI KAL NETA JI Subhash Chander Boss BHHASHA BOL SAKTI HAI

I salute Anna for movement against corruption.….

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99.on August 23, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Reply kamal

apni akhen kholo aap sabhi ne dekha ki sanjay nirupam ne public ke dar se anna ki

hazare wali topi pahni aur ekdum hi change ho kar bola ki vo anna ke sath hain vo bhi

chahte hain is bill ko lana…………

shame on this type of politician ……..

Every indians plz support anna if not this time then u can never

i m kamal

i m anna

100. on August 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Reply Rajbir Singh

Rajbir Singh

I request to all Hindushtani for suppor Shri Anna Ji because he and his team make a

voice against corruption

If Govt and his body not pass Anna’s ‘Jan Lokpal Bill’ no one believe in Govt…and if

Ghandi’s voice not leasen to Govt them Neta Ji Subhash Chander Boss New Ajad Hind

Fooj against corrution will also come in frunt and this govt is responcable for that

So Please Manmohan Ji do not think on wait and watch policy because AAJ JANTA NE

GHANDI JI KE TOPY PAHNI HAI KAL NETA JI Subhash Chander Boss KI BHHASHA BOL

SAKTI HAI

I salute Anna for movement against corruption.….

101. on August 23, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Reply kamal

manmohan singh ji apne to sikh kom ki izzat hi nahi rakhi……………

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sikh kom ne to hamesha sach ka sath diya hai sacchai ke liye acche ke liye desh ke liye

kurbaniya di hai. yaad karo sh guru teg bahadur ko yaad karo bhagat singh ko …per

aap to nakli nikle …………

mujhe sharam aati hai ki aap sikh hain………..

aur sharam aati hai ki main aise desh ka nagrik hun jiska PM PM nahi kathputli hai….

i feel shame that u are sikh….

i m kamal

i m anna

102. on August 23, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Reply Rajbir Yadav

SS Cabs

All Our Staff SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT

We are All ANNA

We Request to all to Support ANNA’s JAN LOKPAL BILL

With Regards

103. on August 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Reply kamal

abhi to ye AHINSAK Kranti hai gandhigiri aur annagiri ke tarike se Kranti ho rahi

hai………..

per anna ko kuch hua to aapko HINSAK Kranti bhi dekhne ko milegi bhartiya itihaas

main…..

kyunki iske baad Mangal Pandey,Bhagat Singh, rajguru,chandeshekhar azad .lalalajpat

rai, jaise logo ki baari hai….

i m kamal

I M ANNA

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104. on August 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Reply Abraham

Indian democracy is not matured yet. We are having the number one democratic

system and misusing the same. No more rules and laws to be created till we are having

a cultured, educated and a good society where we are living from childhood. It should

be started from every individuals and must be spread to the society and to the entire

country and world. No more gatherings and protests will not help to sort out the

problems.The current strike which is doing by Mr.Anna is totaly undemocratic and

unfair. Its an another type of Dadagiri and help our direct and indirect enemies. World is

so jealous about our developments, unity and integrity. Anna should show more

patience and flexibility to build a very strong lokpal bill if he loves the nation. Currently

he is trying to blame the very honest man Mr.Monmohan Singh and to spoil the

development of the Indian economy. Anna should be flexible and must join with the

Govt. for a very strong Lokpal bill. Govt. also should not try to help the corrupted

people. Corrupted people must be punished should not come back from the jail till the

end of the life.

105. on August 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Reply Suresh

One of friend said … Aare hum logo ne toh election main vote diya hai or unko jitaya hai

jo log abhi aise hai… ab anna ji aage aye hai.. fir aage jake aise hi hoga.. vote karoge…

wrong logo ko jitavoge.. kya fayada..

Or maine kaha.. “Koi bhi des Perfect nhi hota, use perfect banana padata hai”

I fully Support Anna ji…

I m Suresh

I m Anna

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106. on August 23, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Reply Suman

ANNA JI ami aapona ke SUPPORT KORI

JAI HIND…

SUMAN (AXOM)

107. on August 23, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Reply mahboob

anna maharaj ham aap k saath hai

aap aage chalo hum aap ka saath hai

jai hind

mahboob khan

108. on August 23, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Reply bharat bhushan

jago janta jago ab bahut ho gaya saha nahin jata 30 ko inki farni hai

109. on August 24, 2011 at 7:21 am | Reply lakhan pratap

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kisan bapat baburao hazare ……… what a great person he is ….. trying to reduce

corruption in our country .he made gud effort through hunger strike , made clear that

there would no violence during movement . he got huge support of huge indian public

becoz public now frustrated with corruptions .like conman wealth games and 2G

spectrum .

ANNA TUM AAGAE BADHO , DESH TUMHARE SATH HAI………..

110. on August 24, 2011 at 7:40 am | Reply Rupesh Sisodiya

Just a thought !!! can V bribe our Govt. to pass JAN LOKPAL BIL ????

111. on August 24, 2011 at 8:18 am | Reply ABHAY PRIY

Aana ji ham aap ke saath hai aab brastachar ko muhthod jabab dena hi hoga varna bo

din door nahi jab hamare desh ke neta is desh ko bech denge .

desh ko bachna hai aana ko jitana hai.

aana hajare adarsh hamare

112. on August 24, 2011 at 9:12 am | Reply Surjya Tanty

Namaskar,Sadar Bande

Bande Matram Bande Matram,

Bharat Ke Rakshak Hai Ham,

Sabhi Bharatiya Sohyog kare,

Nichoy Jay Karenge Ham,

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Ham Sab Hai,

ANNA HAZARE KE SANGH.

113. on August 24, 2011 at 9:24 am | Reply nivedita dixit

i fully support anna ji ,i don,t understand y people are so against his janlokpal bill,it a

step to make present situation better,and in above replies i read buddhev pandya ji

asking from were will we get those honest people to work …..the ans is sir that under

pressure those same people will work honestly,wen an officer know that he will be

punished if work is not completed on time or if any body complaints against him .u can

see the difference in work culture between private and govt sector,in private sector

work is completed any how ,just bcoz of the pressure and u see the govt. sector half of

d staff is sleeping or absent,this z human nature if given liberty or extra time he will use

it for his amusement not to work more efficiently.

114. on August 24, 2011 at 10:04 am | Reply jaspinder kaur bhatti

Hello,

anna you are the second gandhi.

i am taking oath that in my whole life i will not take corruption from any body. don’t

worry we allare with you.

JAI HIND

115. on August 24, 2011 at 10:50 am | Reply Ramesh Ray

Ramesh Ch. Ray

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Anna you are a right person on the right movement.

I support you, and with you go ahead.

Thank you.

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