July 11, 2011 1 The Carroll County Board of Supervisors held their regular monthly meeting on, July 11, 2011 in the Board Meeting Room of the Carroll County Governmental Center. Present were: Dr. Thomas W. Littrell David V. Hutchins W.S. “Sam” Dickson Andrew S. Jackson N. Manus McMillian Gary Larrowe, County Administrator Nikki Shank, Assistant Administrator Ronald L. Newman, Assistant Administrator Jim Cornwell, County Attorney Dr. Littrell called the meeting to order at 3:05 p.m. CLOSED SESSION – PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3711 (A1, A3, A5, A6, A7) Upon motion by Mr. Hutchins, seconded by Mr. McMillian, and passing, the Board convened a Closed Session for the discussion of personnel, disposition of real estate, prospective business, investments, legal matter, as authorized by Virginia Code Section 2.2-3711(A1). Mr. Cornwell explained the reason for entering into Closed Session. VOTES Mr. Jackson Yes Mr. Hurst Yes Mr. Hutchins Yes Mr. Dickson Yes Dr. Littrell Yes Mr. McMillian Yes (Order) CERTIFICATION OF CLOSED SESSION Upon motion by Mr. Jackson, seconded by Mr. McMillian, and passing, the Board adopted the following Resolution: WHEREAS, the Carroll County Board of Supervisors convened a Closed Session this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and on the motion to close the meeting in accordance with the Virginia Freedom of Information Act;
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The Carroll County Board of Supervisors held their regular monthly meeting on, July 11,
2011 in the Board Meeting Room of the Carroll County Governmental Center.
Present were: Dr. Thomas W. Littrell
David V. Hutchins
W.S. “Sam” Dickson
Andrew S. Jackson
N. Manus McMillian
Gary Larrowe, County Administrator
Nikki Shank, Assistant Administrator
Ronald L. Newman, Assistant Administrator
Jim Cornwell, County Attorney
Dr. Littrell called the meeting to order at 3:05 p.m.
CLOSED SESSION – PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3711 (A1,
A3, A5, A6, A7)
Upon motion by Mr. Hutchins, seconded by Mr. McMillian, and passing, the Board
convened a Closed Session for the discussion of personnel, disposition of real estate,
prospective business, investments, legal matter, as authorized by Virginia Code Section
2.2-3711(A1).
Mr. Cornwell explained the reason for entering into Closed Session.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
CERTIFICATION OF CLOSED SESSION
Upon motion by Mr. Jackson, seconded by Mr. McMillian, and passing, the Board
adopted the following Resolution:
WHEREAS, the Carroll County Board of Supervisors convened a Closed Session this
date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and on the motion to close the meeting in
accordance with the Virginia Freedom of Information Act;
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WHEREAS, Section 2.2-3711(D) of the Code of Virginia requires a certification by the
Board of Supervisors that such Closed Session was conducted in conformity with
Virginia law;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Carroll County Board of
Supervisors hereby certifies that, to the best of each member’s knowledge, (I) only public
business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements under the Virginia
Freedom of Information Act were heard, discussed or considered in the Closed Session to
which this certification applies, and (II) only such business matters as were identified in
the motion by which this Closed Session was convened were heard, discussed, or
considered in the meeting to which this certification applies.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
Mr. McMillian introduced Mr. Israel Easter who led in invocation and pledge. Mr.
Easter told that he coaches softball and they went to the State Tournament. He told that
he held church service there with the kids. He told that his team ended up losing but they
had some good memories and he is proud of them.
Dr. Littrell thanked Mr. Easter and welcomed everyone to the meeting. He told that
he was reading the Roanoke Times this morning and one thing that we have been
concerned about are the unfunded mandates and they seem to find their way to the
localities from the General Assembly. He told that one of the most recent ones is our line
of duty act which has the County pick up the premiums for those for our firefighters and
rescue squad members and sheriff’s deputies and it was once paid by the State. He told
that these come down to us from Richmond and the reason they are unfunded is because
they give us no money or any way to raise the money to pay for the mandates that they
insist that we do. He told that what was in the paper this morning was very disturbing
and hopes that it does not come to pass but if it does we in Carroll County and other
counties in Virginia will be in for a very interesting ride. He told that title was State
ponders punt on road repairs. He told that there is some talk in Richmond about having
the counties maintain the secondary roads and the concern there is how would the County
pay for paying and repairing secondary roads when the six year road plan has been null
the last few years because of no funding. He told that one of the things the editorial said
was that a study conducted by George Mason University and funded by Transportation
Secretary notes that the percentage of secondary roads that are deemed insufficient by
State standards grew from 24% statewide in 2007 to 31% today. He told that it is fair to
wonder what level of chaos will ensue from localities from Fairfax to Tazewell are
suddenly expected to assume responsibility that was last the counties in 1932. He told
that the cities have had a chance to tax in order to pay for the roads where the County
does not have that ability. He told that new local taxes which is really a bad word will
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probably be needed even if State officials hand over every penny in their budget now
earmarked for secondary roads. Dr. Littrell told that the timing is really bad for asking
counties to swallow what is a very big if. He told that the General Assembly in recent
years has slashed State Aid for public schools, police and sheriff’s departments and has
walked away from its commitment to fund insurance benefits for law enforcement and
emergency workers. He told that we need to make sure that our elected State officials in
Richmond understand that we cannot afford to repair and maintain the secondary roads
unless we are given ironclad responsibility in order to raise the funds necessary to do that.
He told that the scary part is we may be told years down the road that we need to do it
and not be given the means to raise the revenue so if you are concerned about this talk to
your State legislators.
(Order)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian, seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the agenda as presented.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian, seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the minutes of the meeting on June 13, 2011 as previously distributed to the
members of this Board.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
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Upon motion by Mr. McMillian, seconded by Mr. Hutchins, and passed unanimously,
the Board approved the payroll for July 2011 and did authorize the Chairman and Clerk,
along with Bonita M. Williams, Treasurer, to sign in August 2011 for checks for the
payment of salaries and wages for all County officials and employees as previously
budgeted by the State Compensation Board and this Board of Supervisors.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
VDOT RESOLUTION
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the VDOT Resolution below.
WHEREAS, the Virginia Department of Transportation held a public hearing on May 18,
2011 for the purposes of discussing the proposed corridor of State Route 620; and
WHEREAS, The Board of Supervisors held a public hearing on March 14, 2011for the
purpose of receiving citizen comments on the Six Year Road Plan including the proposed
corridor; and
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors does hereby approve and support the proposed
improvements to State Route 620 by Governor McDonnell; and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that a copy of this resolution be duly attested
and forwarded to the Virginia Department of Transportation Martinsville Residency
Office by the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
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VIRGINIA STATE PARKS RESOLUTION
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the Virginia State Parks Resolution below.
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park, including the Foster Falls Village and the Shot
Tower, was named after the river it parallels the most; and
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park makes up 57 miles of trail including two
tunnels, three major bridges, and nearly 30 smaller bridges donated from Norfolk and
Southern Corporation to spur economic development and to create a unique recreational
experience; and
WHEREAS, Virginia was the first state to open six state parks simultaneously on June
15, 1936, with New River Trail State Park being the 28th
park acquired in 1986; and
WHEREAS, Virginia’s State Park’s have been recognized nationally as the best managed
park system in the country; and
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park features panoramic views, fishing, the longest
linear hiking, biking, and equestrian trail, picnicking, camping, boating, educational,
environmental and historic interpretive programs, along with a multitude of programming
including: the Festival of Lights and a venue for outdoor recreation and weddings; and
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park draws visitors from far and wide thus
contributing to the economical and recreational opportunities for Wythe County, Pulaski
County, Carroll County, Grayson County, the Town of Fries, the Town of Pulaski and the
City of Galax.
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park allows individuals to reconnect with nature, an
essential part of a healthy lifestyle, by providing a tonic for the mind, body, and spirit;
and
WHEREAS, New River Trail State Park shares hands-on learning through Standards of
Learning based environment education programs enhancing comprehension for thousands
of students annually.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the County of Carroll hereby congratulates
Virginia State Parks and New River Trail State Park on the occasion of its 75th
Anniversary and extends best wishes for many years to come.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
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Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
BUDGET CALENDAR
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the Budget Calendar below.
July, 2011
*11 Budget calendar adopted by BOS
August, 2011
*8 Goals adopted by BOS\County Administration
September, 2011
30 Budget packets (goals, personnel, CIP, requests) distributed to departments
October, 2011
31 Budget packets (goals, personnel, CIP, requests) due from departments
November, 2011
14-18 Budget review meetings with Department Heads
December, 2011
*12 Capital Improvements Program presented to Board as information
January, 2012
*9 Capital Improvements Program adopted by Board
February, 2012
Preliminary budget information assembled
March, 2012
13 Superintendent presents proposed budget to School Board, public hearing on this
budget is held by School Board
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26 7:00 a.m. School Board approves School Budget
26 6:30 p.m. Budget work session - School Budget presentation to BOS (authorize
advertising of proposed school budget and April 9 Public Hearing)
April, 2012
*9 FY2013 Proposed County Budget presented to Board of Supervisors, 5:00 p.m.
Public hearing School Budget
23 6:30 p.m. Budget work session - approve School Budget, authorize advertising of
proposed county budget, tax rates, and May 14 Public Hearing
May, 2012
*14 5:00 p.m. Public Hearing on proposed budget and tax rates
June, 2012
*11 Adopt Carroll County FY2013 budget
Prepare 2012 – 2013 final budget documents
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
UPDATES TO FUND BALANCE POLICY
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the updates to the Fund Balance Policy.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
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COMMISSION OF ARTS
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the additional allocation in the amount of $5000 from grant funds received
from the Virginia Commission of the Arts.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
YEAR END ALLOCATIONS
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the Year End Allocations as presented.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
ROLLOVER
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
approved the Rollover as presented.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Mr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
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ANIMAL CONTROL UPDATE
Mr. Terry Woods told that we have had 8 positive cases of rabies in the County so far
this year. He told that there have been 5 grey foxes, 2 raccoons and 1 skunk. He told that
there have been several others that were not sent off for testing because there was no
exposure. He told that USDA is testing things that we don’t want to test but the only
problem is getting them to them. He told that they have a freezer at the Wytheville office
and the freezer that we have here is very small. He told that we have sent some to them
but we have not got the results back yet. He told that last year USDA did the aerial drops
of the bates and they are trying to determine if the drops need to be moved inland so
hopefully we will get in that corridor this time. He told that they drop rabies vaccine and
hopefully something will get a hold of it. He told that we have one of the highest case
rates in the surrounding counties. He told that Bland and Grayson have had 1 case and
Wythe County has had 2 cases. He told that Floyd has had 5 cases and Patrick has had 2
cases.
Dr. Littrell ask how the numbers compare with years past.
Mr. Woods told that we don’t usually have such a high number this early. He told that
we usually have 8 to 10 cases per year. He told that there is a lot more out there that we
are not getting.
Mr. McMillian ask if it has anything to do with where we have had so much rain.
Mr. Woods told that it is a virus and it is spread through saliva. He thought the we
thought we were going to hit our peak and the last couple of years I thought we were at
our peak but it keeps rising. He told that it has to end itself at some time.
Mr. McMillian ask if there is need for alarm.
Mr. Woods told that there is no need for major concern. He told that in Northern
Virginia they have had 15 to 26 cases.
Mr. McMillian ask if it is more urban.
Mr. Woods told that they test everything including road kill even if there has been no
exposure.
Mr. Dickson told that he would like to thank Mr. Woods. He told that he had an
incident as his house with a raccoon. He told that he called Mr. Woods and he told him
what to look for then the Health Department came out. He told that it is a thankless
position and we appreciate it.
Mr. Woods told that a lot of people don’t realize that we are putting ourselves to
exposure when getting the animal ready to send off. He told that the most important
thing is to make sure that your pets are vaccinated.
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Dr. Littrell thanked Mr. Woods and told him that we appreciate the job that he is
doing for the County.
CITIZEN’S TIME
Ms. Brenda Quesenberry told that she is from the Sulphur Springs District and at the
last meeting her husband was out of town and wasn’t able to attend. She told that there
are some things that are bothering them. She told that she understands that Mr. Hurst is
the only person who voted against Route 620 widening and they would like to commend
him for that. She told that they live on Oak Grove Road but she is relatively certain that
Mr. Hutchins and Dr. Littrell read the Gazette and should have known that we don’t want
the 620 widened. She ask what makes the Board think that it will thrive when they can
not fill the empty buildings now. She told that even though Rt. 620 was already approve
our supervisors could have listened to the people and reevaluated the decision. She told
that the last Board would not listen to the citizens either. She told that citizens attempted
to stop Amerlink but look what we got. She ask if we were headed for another Amerlink
on Route 620 since it is being handled the same was as Amerlink, behind closed doors.
She ask if the residents have no right to know what is going on in their community,
especially when the taxpayers have been indebted for over $5 million. She ask how
much taxpayer money did the County get with Amerlink and where is it. She told that
our Supervisors need to take a good look at this and ask if they want to be remembered
for another Amerlink deal. She told that it is her understanding that the Board has ruled
that citizens have three minutes to speak in a 3 or 6 month period and if this is true there
is no freedom of speech. She ask if there is any Board member or County Attorney that
might agree that this rule discriminates against the citizens and desperately needs
amending. She told that it has become apparent that attempting to voice an opinion is
neither wanted nor heard by the government. She told that when this Board was elected
she thought the people of this county had a future and it seems I thought wrong.
Mr. Jim Williams told that he is with Smart Beginnings and they are 1 out of 28
programs in Virginia. He told that there focus is on children from 0 to 5 years old. He
told that they are funded through the Virginia Early Childhood Foundation and they had
some organization issues. He told that he came on board in late June and he is looking to
know what is needed in the area. He told that they were given a planning grant for this
year. He told that major development takes places from 0 – 5 years and they are going
through the database to see if there are problems that they can identify. He told that they
cover Carroll, Grayson and the City of Galax and they feel like they can have a major
impact on the funds that the County has to spend. He told that if one child has to repeat a
grade it costs $8000 and if there are 100 students it would cost $800,000 and those funds
can be used other places. He told that he appreciates the Boards interest and partnering
with you.
PHASE III
Mr. Hutchins told that there has been a lot of discussion on the school funding about
different means of funds or if there were additional funds. He told that when we first
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went down the QSAB road I think Dr. Smith would agree, we knew there would be a $15
million cap and that is pretty much what our motion was.
Upon motion by Mr. Hutchins, seconded by Mr. Jackson and passing the Board
approved to request the Carroll County Industrial Development Authority (IDA) to
immediately withdraw any and all funding or loan requests or applications’ for
construction, renovation, or other such projects relating to the Carroll County School
System Phase III project and that such notification be provided to all affected government
and/or private lending organizations’ most expeditiously and to request the Carroll
County School Board to direct the removal of any and all direct or indirect references
relating to USDA Rural Development requirements in the Phase III school renovation
construction documents so as to reduce the burden on potential bidders of the project that
may negatively impact the bid prices since the Phase III was funded through QSCB at
$15 million.
Mr. Hutchins told that he believes when they were here the A&E firm indicated that
had escalated the prices significant or otherwise and he has called a couple of other firms
and they confirmed that the Rural Development regulations will significantly increase the
cost of the bid.
Dr. Littrell told that he hopes this will reduce the cost of the bidding cycle.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
PHASE III UPDATE
Dr. Smith told that it is always a pleasure to present to the Board. He told that on June
28th
they rejected all of the bids that were received per advice of legal counsel. He told
that he was directed by the School Board to explore every alternative to correlate this
project with the funding expectations. He told that the focus since then has been the
elimination of the 9th
grade wing, keeping the baseball fields intact, maximizing square
footage and working the HVAC into a workable solution. He told that after spending
generous time measuring it appears that they can transition the 300 students into the high
school without the new 9th
grade wing. He told that this will require a partial redesign of
the project and a diverse group of thoughts and it will be a difficult time and the square
footage will be critical. He told that the likely impact factors will be larger classroom
sizes, reduced flexibility of the scheduling, limited student access to the courses and
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programs, floating teachers and courses, limited program growth and expansion and
increased student travel to the on campus and off campus facilities.
Dr. Smith told that he would be sharing his thoughts tomorrow to the School Board
and will incorporate their changes at the Joint Meeting on Wednesday at 6:00 p.m. He
told that it has been a journey for the last few weeks and they were surprised at the bids
and Pinnacle was surprised as well. He told that in North Carolina and locally they have
been bids that have come in less. He told that the culprit for the most part has been the
HVAC and the mechanical work and it seems to be the game breaker right now and it is
$3.5 million and it is stopping up all of our works right now.
Mr. Hutchins told that there has been some talk of a Clerk of the Works and ask his
thoughts on that.
Dr. Smith told that it is something that the School Board considered and they
would welcome that level of assistance and knowledge base that would come with a
person with those skill sets. He told that he and Mr. Larrowe spoke about it last week
and he presented several different resumes to get a look at what the person would do and
what the cost may be and they were looking at a limited schedule because of the cost
factors and there a great many people out there with those skill sets.
Mr. Hutchins told that there is a potential for saving money for the tax payers and it
would also give a different set of eyes and ears. He told that we know we are paying the
A&E firm to do that but this gives us an independent assessment.
Dr. Smith told that the skill sets are very specialized. He told that the benefit to this
project would outweigh salary costs.
Upon motion by Mr. Hutchins, seconded by Mr. McMillian and passing, the Board
approved to advertise immediately for the Clerk of Works position and to hire as soon as
possible based on qualifications and experience.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
Dr. Smith told that they have a duties and responsibilities document and it is a good
document.
Mr. Cornwell told that the position will need to be in the contract so the contractors
will know that this person will be signing off and also to show their role.
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Dr. Smith told that if there is language that Mr. Cornwell would like to add just let
him know.
Mr. McMillian told that this would give them an extra set of eyes and that could be
very important. He told that this will assist the School Board, the Board of Supervisors
and the taxpayers.
Mr. Dickson told that Montgomery County is looking at doing the same thing.
Dr. Smith told that their project was in a different stratosphere due to the amount they
are spending.
Mr. Dickson told that they had the luxury of hiring Branch and Associates.
Mr. Hutchins told that he was told that they entered into a contract with Branch and
Associates under a PPE.
Dr. Smith told that it is a Public Private Partnership. He told that it is a predesign.
Mr. Hutchins told that it is pretty lucrative.
Dr. Smith told that he has heard of those going south.
Mr. Dickson told that our scope is probably too small to do that.
Dr. Smith told that we probably could have went that route. He told that he just didn’t
feel like it fit and didn’t take the time to pursue it strongly. He told that he did listen to
some presentations on it.
Dr. Smith told that he will present to this Board after he presents to the School Board
tomorrow night. He told that he thinks and hopes that everyone will be pleased with the
product even though it is not the one that we wanted. He told that it is the one that we are
going to have to get to.
Mr. Hutchins told that the school has a grant request into Rural Development but it is
a pure grant and should not be included in the motion.
Dr. Smith told that they do have a request in for the cafeteria and it would not be
associated with the motion that was made.
Dr. Littrell told that we have learned the meaning of flexibility.
Dr. Smith told that they have to ride the wave regardless of what comes their way. He
told that they have to make the best of it and it will limit what they are able to do. He
told that you have to do what is best for the kids. He told that he thinks they have a
flexible plan and he is anxious to present it to the Board.
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(Order)
PUBLIC HEARING – TAX RELIEF
Dr. Littrell opened the Public Hearing at 5:00 and told that purpose for the hearing.
Mr. Cornwell told that the Commissioner of Revenue could not be here tonight. He
told that basically the general assembly gives exemption to veterans and we are required
to do it but we are limited in what we can do. He read the changes in the exemptions. He
told that the Commissioner also suggested additional tax relief for the elderly and
disabled. He told that they are proposing the income limit be raised from $23,000 to
$26,000 and the maximum relief be raised from $150 to $250. He told that this would
help those people get more. He told that before we had exempted 50% of the value and
that has changed to 100%. He told that it was changed so it would be more in line with
the veteran’s exemption and also because a lot of people do not get the maximum
exemption and it will help them to be able to get more. He told that the Commissioner
has estimated this to be around $7000.
Dr. Littrell ask if by definition if elderly is 65 or over and disabled has no age limit.
Mr. Cornwell told that is correct.
Mr. Gleeon Quesenberry told that he is all for the exemption and ask if widows of
100% disabled veterans eligible for relief.
Mr. Cornwell told that it does include widows of a veteran.
Mr. Quesenberry told that his father is deceased and he is wondering if his mother
qualifies.
Mr. Jackson told that he believes they are if the death occurred on or after January 1,
2011.
Mr. Cornwell told that is correct.
With no one else to speak, the Public Hearing was closed at 5:08 p.m.
Upon motion by Mr. Dickson, seconded by Mr. Jackson and passing, the Board
approved the tax relief ordinance below.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
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Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
§ 116-27. - Generally.
The commissioner of revenue shall, upon application made, within the
limits as hereinafter provided and upon the terms and conditions hereinafter set
out, order exemption of tax on real property owned by and occupied as the sole
dwelling house of i) a person or persons not less than sixty-five (65) years of age,
(elderly exemption) or ii) a person or persons less than sixty-five (65) years of age
determined to be permanently and totally disabled as defined in this
division,(disabled exemption) or, iii) certain disabled veterans and their surviving
spouses (disabled veteran exemption). The commissioner shall adopt and
promulgate such rules and regulations, not inconsistent with the provisions of this
article, as deemed necessary for the effective administration of this article. The
commissioner shall make such inquiries of persons seeking an exemption under
this article as may be reasonably necessary in determining the qualifications
therefore. Such inquiries shall be answered under oath. The commissioner may
also require the production of certified tax returns to establish the income or
financial worth of an applicant for tax relief under this article. The commissioner
shall indicate in the land books of the county the amount of tax exempted
pursuant to the provisions of this article.
§ 116-28. - Financial eligibility- Elderly or Disabled
To be eligible for the elderly or disabled exemption as provided for in this
division, the total combined income, during the immediately preceding calendar
year, from all sources, of the owner and relatives of the owner living in the
dwelling house on such property shall not exceed twenty six thousand dollars
($26,000.00); provided that, the first six thousand dollars ($6,000.00) of income
of each relative, other than the spouse of the owner, who is living in the dwelling
shall not be included in such total, and provided further the net combined
financial worth of such persons, including equitable interests, as of the thirty-first
day of December of the immediately preceding calendar year, excluding the value
of the dwelling house and the land, not exceeding one (1) acre, upon which it is
situated, shall not exceed eighty thousand dollars ($80,000.00). A dwelling jointly
held by a husband and wife may qualify for elderly or disabled exemption if either
spouse is over sixty-five (65) years of age or is disabled.
§ 116-29. - Disability Eligibility.
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1) For the purposes of determining eligibility under this article for the
disabled exemption, a person shall be determined to be permanently and
totally disabled, if he has a certificate from the social security
administration, or if such person is not eligible for social security, a sworn
affidavit from two (2) medical doctors licensed to practice medicine in the
state, to the effect that such person is permanently and totally disabled,
and if he is found by the commissioner to be unable to engage in any
substantial gainful activity by reason of a medically determinable physical
or mental impairment or deformity, which can be expected to result in
death or can be expected to last for the duration of such person's life. The
commissioner shall make such inquiries of an applicant for exemption
under this section as may be reasonably necessary to determine an
applicant's eligibility for the exemption, and such inquiries shall be
answered under oath.
§ 116-30. - Disabled Veteran Exemption
2) Pursuant to § 58.1- 3219.5 the County hereby exempts from taxation the
dwelling and up to one acre of land upon which the dwelling is situated, including
the joint real property of husband and wife of any veteran who has been rated by the U.
S. Department of Veterans Affairs or its successor agency pursuant to federal law
to have a 100 percent service- connected, permanent, and total disability, and who
occupies the real property as his principal place of residence.
§ 116-31 - Applicant's affidavit.
1) The owner claiming an elderly or disabled exemption shall file with
the commissioner, an affidavit setting forth an identification of the taxable real
estate, the names of the persons occupying such real estate, that the total
combined income of the owners and relatives living in the dwelling on such
property for the preceding calendar year did not exceed the maximum total
combined income permitted by this Code, provided that the first six thousand
dollars ($6,000.00) of income of each relative, other than the spouse of the owner,
who is living in the dwelling shall not be included in such total, and that the total
combined net worth of such owner and relatives, as of the thirty-first day of
December of the immediately preceding calendar year, excluding the value of the
dwelling house and the land, not exceeding one (1) acre upon which it is situated,
did not exceed the total combined net worth permitted by this Code. Such
affidavit shall be filed annually or, in lieu thereof, such affidavit may be filed on a
three-year cycle with an annual certification by the taxpayer that no facts stated
on the last preceding affidavit filed have changed to such extent as to exceed or
otherwise violate the limitations and conditions provided herein. Persons claiming
an exemption as of December thirty-first of any year shall file the affidavit or
certificate by the first day of May next following and any exemption granted shall
apply to the fiscal tax collection year, beginning the next following July first. The
commissioner may permit the late filing of the affidavit required by this section
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for first-time applicants and may permit late filing of such affidavit or certificate
for other than first-time applicants in hardship cases.
2) The veteran or surviving spouse claiming the disabled veteran
exemption under this article shall file with the commissioner of the revenue, on
forms to be supplied by the county, an affidavit or written statement (i) setting
forth the name of the disabled veteran and the name of the spouse, if any, also
occupying the real property, (ii) indicating whether the real property is jointly
owned by a husband and wife, and (iii) certifying that the real property is
occupied as the veteran’s principal place of residence. The veteran shall also
provide documentation from the U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs or its
successor agency indicating that the veteran has a 100 percent service-connected,
permanent, and total disability. The veteran shall be required to refile the
information required by this section only if the veteran’s principal place of
residence changes. In the event of a surviving spouse of a veteran claiming the
exemption, the surviving spouse shall also provide documentation that the
veteran’s death occurred on or after January 1, 2011.
§ 116-32. - Amount of exemption
With respect to the elderly or disabled exemptions, the dwelling and up to
one acre of land upon which the dwelling is situated, including the joint real
property of husband and wife shall be exempt from taxation, provided the amount
of this exemption shall not exceed a reduction in taxation of such property in
excess of $250.00. Failure to pay the difference between the exemption and the
full amount of taxes levied on the property for which the exemption is issued by
December 5 of the year for which such exemption is issued shall constitute a
forfeiture of the exemption. With respect to disabled veterans, the dwelling and up
to one acre of land upon which the dwelling is situate shall be exempt without
limitation.
§ 116-33. Claim procedure.
A. Annually, and not later than May 1 of the taxable year, the person
or persons claiming an exemption must file a real estate tax
exemption affidavit with the Commissioner of the Revenue.
B. The affidavit shall set forth the facts supporting the claimed
exemption in a manner prescribed by the Commissioner of the
Revenue and shall contain the information required by this article.
C. If, after audit and investigation, the Commissioner of the Revenue
determines that the person or persons are qualified for exemption,
the Commissioner shall issue to the person a certificate which shall
show the amount of the exemption from the claimant’s real estate
liability.
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D. Changes in respect to income, financial worth, ownership of
property or other factors occurring during the taxable year for
which the affidavit is filed and having the effect of exceeding or
violating the limitations and conditions provided herein, or by any
ordinance adopted hereafter, shall nullify any exemption
for the then-current and the taxable year immediately following.
§ 116-34. False claims of exemption.
Any person who shall falsely claim the exemption provided for in this
Article shall pay to the Treasurer one hundred ten percent (110%) of such
exemption. Falsely claiming any exemption authorized in this Article shall
constitute a Class 1 misdemeanor, and shall be punishable by a fine not to exceed
Three Hundred Dollars ($300) or confinement in jail not exceeding thirty (30)
days, either or both.
ADMINISTRATOR’S TIME
Mr. Larrowe told that it is a pleasure to be here and we are running at break neck
speed. He told that we received a grant for an ambulance in the amount of $116,678.40.
He told that this is through USDA and it is an 80/20 grant. He told that our ambulance
calls have gone up so we are always having to replace. He told that we have been
focusing on Tourism and have moved the office to the Market Village and we are getting
more attendance over there than what we have had in the past. He told that the signage
box should be coming this week and we have replaced the road signs going in and added
signs to the Farmers Market. He told that we are gathering data of the visitors who are
coming in and collecting their zip codes and we will be compiling that information to use
in target marketing through Social Media. He told that we have been working for the
past 2 months doing some training on Social Media. He told that a group came regarding
the absence of a 4-H agent and the position has been filled and we are excited about that.
He told that he attended the Soil and Water Conservation meeting recently and toured
their canola plantings at Matthews Farm. He told that it is exciting to see some of the
things that they are pushing. He told that the School Farm that is located at Hillsville
Elementary School is really being pushed hard. He told that there are some beef cattle
there as well as green houses and there are a lot of opportunities for the children to learn.
Mr. Larrowe told that he participated in a meeting of Workforce Development and we
have pushed that in a good direction. He told that he met with People Incorporated and
we may use some of the services that they offer. He told that they are working hard to
support Carroll County and we are working hard to support them. He told that it would
not be to long until their workforce investment program will be at Crossroads. He told
that we have had a resignation from Mr. Bernie Deck and he will be relocating to another
State and it will leave an opening. He told that he proposes that we transfer that position
to the Director of IT since it has been open for over a year. He told that this is utilization
of a current position. He told that we could do something in the future but this would be
the best use at this time. He told that SBDC is funding a position for Grayson County at
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30 hours a week and there may be an opportunity of that sort for Carroll County. He told
that we are not taking emphasis off of Small Business by an means and we will be adding
focus to that with some of the activities that we are doing in IT. He told that he
appreciates the approval of the Clerk of the Works position and that one will end up
paying for itself and will save dollars for Carroll County. He told that it is not every day
that we spend $15 million and it is paramount that we end up watching everything that
takes place and this will give us that 3rd
set of eyes.
Dr. Littrell ask under the Social Service report it looks like they ended up with a
balance for the year of about $131,000. He told that it looked like there was a surplus but
in the local CSA there was more spent and was wondering if one would offset the other.
Mr. Larrowe told that they are an offset and what ends up taking place is the number
of CSA has gone up significantly. He told that he has asked the Director for a meeting to
determine where the increases have been and where we can reduce. He told that we also
have a member of CPMT and we will be addressing it from that direction as well.
SUPERVISOR’S TIME
Mr. Jackson told that he is glad to see that there is added relief for the elderly and
disabled veterans. He told unfortunately the widows cannot receive benefits unless the
death occurs on or after January 1, 2011 and he has had 2 in his district that he has had to
check on. He thanked everyone for coming out today and told that it is great to still have
an audience. He thanked the Chairman and the staff.
Mr. McMillian thanked everyone for coming and thanked Mr. Easter for the
invocation. He told that there is a lot going on in the county right now and it is hard to
know where to place the emphasis. He congratulated the recreation teams and told that
several have went on to State Tournaments and have represented the County well. He
told that it is something to be proud of. He ask everyone to keep Mr. Jackson’s daughter
in our prayers and thanked the Board members for their support.
Mr. Hutchins thanked the Board and staff. He asked who wrote the grant for the
ambulance.
Mr. Larrowe told that it went through Mike Mock and he is sure Ms. Surratt helped
with it.
Mr. Hutchins told that he has heard a lot of great things about the new Tourism
location and he has stopped by a couple of times. He told that this was a very positive
move. He told that the School improvements are going to be a challenge. He told that
with the IT person we will have the same number of employees and nothing additional.
He told that the time is coming where we have to go with real networks and have a real
server.
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Mr. Hurst told that it is good to see people here until the end of the meeting. He told
that if you look at the whole picture you will see positive growth and he is excited about
moving forward with the school and getting the Clerk of the Works. He told that it will
give us more accessibility and we will get a better return for the money that is invested.
He told that he would like to emphasize to citizens the importance of getting animals
their rabies shots. It told that it does help control because nothing is worse than seeing
someone go through the treatment.
Mr. Dickson told that Mr. Easter said something about the ball teams, they didn’t win
but they didn’t quit. He told that just because we don’t have businesses coming in it is
not the time to quit. He told that we need to keep moving forward and good things will
happen. He told that if we are not ready for it then nothing will happen.
Dr. Littrell told that it felt strange not being here last month. He filled everyone in on
the great race and told that when he was interviewed by Channel 7 that he had his Carroll
County hat on. He told to finish a race with an antique car is winning and they came in
29th
in the overall race and 9th
place in their division. He told that they met people
everywhere they stopped. He told that the County is moving forward quickly and we
always have people who disagree. He told that it is great to hear citizen input and it is
good to see people here. He told that we will be having a joint meeting with the School
Board this Wednesday, July 13th
beginning at 6:00 p.m. in the Board Room.
Mr. McMillian told everyone they should go by the Farmers Market and they are
doing a great job over there. He told there was 400 acres of corn last year in the county
and there has been over 700 acres so far this year.
ADJOURMENT
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
recessed until July 13, 2011 at 6:00 p.m.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
(Order)
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Chairman
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Clerk
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The Carroll County Board of Supervisors held a joint meeting with Carroll County
School Board on, July 13, 2011 in the Board Meeting Room of the Carroll County
Governmental Center.
Present were: Dr. Thomas W. Littrell
David V. Hutchins
W.S. “Sam” Dickson
Andrew S. Jackson
N. Manus McMillian
Gary Larrowe, County Administrator
Nikki Shank, Assistant Administrator
Ronald L. Newman, Assistant Administrator
Dr. Littrell called the meeting to order at 6:06 p.m.
Mr. Jett called the meeting of the School Board to order at 6:06 p.m.
OPENING REMARKS
Dr. Littrell told that we will be missing a member for a while, but he will be here later.
He told that it is good to be here with everyone and he knows the School Board has
worked long and hard on the project that we are about to discuss. Dr. Littrell addressed
the Board, staff and citizens with the following statement. He told that we are here to
celebrate the closing of the Phase III QSCB Bonds which occurred on June 28th
of 2011.
As you know, with this move, there is $15 million available at a 0% rate for 16 years.
Also, the BOS has taken proactive steps toward the debt service on this obligation by
reserving $1.5 million for the first payment and a plan of action for the repayment of the
entire note over the allotted 16 years with no tax increase. This was done with the
foresight of the BOS who are very supportive of education and have demonstrated that on
many occasions to this point and plan to continue.
The BOS authorized the USDA-RD funding that never came through last year and
recently the standing application became an issue because of increased cost of the most
recent bids due to having to meet the USDA-RD standards. The Board funded the Capital
Improvement Plan (CIP) for the School System with an additional $125,000 to replace
Oakland Elementary School roof for a total of $492,260 above the regular School System
allocations. Plus, the BOS fought hard by asking the School Board to make sure the
School employees received a raise this year using unspent funds of the school system that
were to be carried over. It would seem as if the School System has done exceptionally
well with the leadership of the School Board as a team with the BOS.
Also, the BOS understands the complexities of large projects and knows there is a
need for “slow and steady” in making sure the dollars for Phase III are spent wisely.
Especially in the environment of the recent bids and many surrounding questions, it
would seem to be a better process to work together to understand our community needs
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as a whole to achieve the necessary end results to satisfy QSCB requirements, have a
Phase III that we are proud of and the enhancement of an educational system that will
lead to prosperity for our youth and their families for generations to come. We feel as if
Educational opportunities in our community are solidly linked to economic opportunities
that we so desperately need.
Therefore, the Board of Supervisors requests that the School Phase III project include
those elements that are necessary for the project to solve the problems of the current
facilities specifically HVAC and water lines in the current CCHD facility. The
community and the BOS are interested in the long term results rather than a band-aid
until more money must be spent in emergency situations.
The BOS has a series of questions that include several pieces of Phase III. The
answers may not be had today, however the BOS does feel it is well worth discussions of
the topics to enhance the Phase III project. The BOS is sure that there are legitimate
answers to the questions being asked. However, the BOS is being asked questions and
need answers to supply to the citizens of Carroll on the topic. Therefore the best way to
handle this is by simply asking the questions so we can all know what is being talked
about and the plan of actions that have been developed to make this project succeed.
The Board of Supervisors does not intend to go behind the School Board, micro-
manage, or impede progress in any way. To this point, there has been a lot of discussion
about simplifying this project, while having points of disagreement between the School
Board and the Board of Supervisors. There have been reasonable questions that the public
would like the answers to. There are indeed aspects of this project that upset the Board
collectively, for example, not including the HVAC and the Water lines in the base bid.
The Board has gone on record on several occasions to communicate this element to the
school and officials, to no avail. In all likelihood, if members of the BOS are upset with
some issues of the project, the citizens of this County will also be upset. We were elected
to represent these people, and have a fiduciary responsibility to ask the pertinent
questions. In no way is this intended to throw up and road blocks or to delay the project,
but is intended to stretch the taxpayers’ dollars, who are funding the debt service on this
project. It is time to work together in the best interest of our citizens to accomplish Phase
III.
In conclusion, I would like to read a quote from Turning Point that says: “Taxpayers
around the world are in a feisty mood. They’re demanding civic leaders and public
employees to be accountable for the managing of the common good. They expect
politicians to be accountable to the voters. They’re ready to hold their governments
accountable to act in a wise and disciplined way. They want to hold teachers accountable
for the schools and generals for the armies. Without accountability, there’s little
discipline or restraint in our world.” –Turn Point
Mr. Jett told that he does not have any prepared opening remarks, but he appreciates
the opportunity for both boards to meet. He told that it has been a long process to get to
this point and the hours that have been spent is tremendous. He told that when Dr.
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Littrell spoke about answering to the community, the School Board answers to the
community as well. He told that there are educational components that are critical to
Phase III and he hopes that the presentation will answer some of the questions. He told
that Mr. Hurst and Mr. Jackson were on the original Phase III project as well as several
parents, administrators and teachers. He told that the community has been very involved.
He told that funding plays a critical part as well as the educational components. He told
that Dr. Smith made a presentation last night to the School Board about the scope of the
project and how it has been changed. He told that he knows there will be a lot of
questions and the School Board has a lot of questions as well. He told that hopefully this
will be a meaningful project and they will be able to work together.
PHASE III PRESENTATION
Dr. Smith handed out information and told that they had a very good conversation last
night. He told that he is going to outline and compare the former project with the
redesigned project. He told that they tried to follow the guidelines set forth by the School
Board Commission and the School Board has directed him to look at how we can fit this
project into the $15 million guidelines. He told that it has taken several times of visiting
the sites and he and his staff have worked diligently to look at every possibility to create
square footage within the building. He told that they have even gone to the point of
taking the classroom measurements to see what would comply with the Virginia
Department of Education guidelines for classroom space and we have been very
thorough. He told that they are trying to get their best recommendation to complete the
project and to meet the guidelines of the QSAB application and comply with the wishes
of the conversation that they have had thus far. He told that on the base
recommendations a critical part of the project is the entrance because of the science
facilities as well as the renovation of the current science facilities. He told that it is also a
vital component to the transfer of 330 students to the high school. He told that they have
created a science laboratory that meets the DOE specifications and a common laboratory
across the hallway and they have added an additional classroom space in the pre-design
that will be used for anything. He told that they also have the media center which is an
important thought because the current media center was built in 1968 and it is part of the
building that is in desperate need of renovation. He told that he and Frank measured
there and it is just shy of 5000 square feet. He told that underneath of this section is the
entranceway into the facility and it will contain the administrative offices as well as the
security gate and right now security concerns him greatly. He told that right now when
you enter you can go down either hall, into the gym and circulate throughout the facility
without making it to the office. He told that it is not a secure building in terms of
maintaining who is supposed to be inside. He told that the field house is next and it is a
little different than what was talked about in the past. He told that it is important for us to
maximize every square foot for the transition. He told that this location is remote but it
will work. He told that they have looked at the renovation of the current field house. He
told that currently they have classroom space on the 2nd
floor and locker room space and
very little bathroom space, concessions area, weight room and a locker room for the
football teams. He told that the recommendation that he is making to the School Board is
to renovate the first and the second floor for classroom space and it would create
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approximately 5 classrooms. He told that it would eliminate the locker room on the first
floor. He told that there would be a new field house that will be new construction. He
told that the weight room boys and girls locker rooms and a storage facility for
equipment. He told that on the 2nd
floor of the new building there would be classroom
space that is about 900 square feet per room. He told that this would give us 9
classrooms total and it is a remote location but it is an important piece to the transition.
He told that if we do not add square footage to the building we cannot make the transition
happen because the guidelines set forth by the DOE will not allow it. He told that the
other base which is a critical piece is the cafeteria. He told that they now run 4 shifts and
they will be adding 300 more students. He told that it skews the entire master schedule
and the students may not be able to take the classes that they want. He told that this is a
must for the transition. He told that the cafeteria will expand into the current auto
mechanics room.
Dr. Smith told that on the alternatives they are recommending that auto mechanics and
the horticulture wet lab be placed where the fuller house is being constructed which is
located behind the baseball field. He told that there will be room for 4 bays and a lift
system.
Dr. Littrell asked if it is a one story building.
Dr. Smith told that it is but it will have a loft that can be used for storage.
Dr. Smith told that the next alternate is the auxiliary gym. He told that one of the
concerns that they have is the result of not having the auxiliary gym is only 9th
and 10th
grade students will be utilizing the current gym during the instructional day. He told that
if they do not construct the gym the 11th
and 12th
grade students will not have fitness
classes. He told that in this community that is a critical component of their high school
experience. He told that we have many students who take P.E. their entire four years. He
told that they even transport fitness students to the high school from their 9th
grade class.
He ask if anyone has been in the weight room and the current bathrooms in the gym and
told that they are awful. He told that they would convert some space into classrooms.
Dr. Smith told that the removal will be the entire previously planned baseball field,
parking facility, paving, the dugout and everything else. He told that it was an expensive
proposition. He told that it was useful to us because if they were constructing the 9th
grade wing they would have had to replace much of the foundation soil because of the
fill. He told that since they are not going to do that it does not need to exist. He told that
it was expensive and this is a cost savings for us and they hope it goes a long way. He
told that horticulture lab that was planned has been moved and they just talked about it.
He told that they were also removing the 9th
grade wing. He told that everything would be
pulled from that side of the building. He told that the HVAC has been quiet a
conversation. He told that he certainly hopes that it can be part of the project. He told
that the application copy that everyone has clearly states that the construction part of the
project would include the Woodlawn facility and we all know that. He told that it states
that they will evaluate the HVAC mechanical electrical system and that is part of the
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application. He told that with conversations with legal counsel they have to stay very
close to the application. He told that the QSAB dollars are very special and they have to
stay as close as possible to the application. He told that even the changes will have to be
approved through DOE. He told in terms of the overall scheme he thinks that it is a good
plan and a workable plan and it gives a look at the structural focus a second time. He told
that this is not the plan they wanted, it will not enhance the instructional programs like
they wanted it to and it will limit usage of the facility. He told that it will not allow them
to grow and expand and it will lock us into an instructional program that will be rigid and
they will have to work through the challenges. He told that it is a workable solution for
the closure of Woodlawn and the use of the $15 million dollars.
Mr. Dickson ask how much actual new construction is there as far as adding new
square footage.
Dr. Smith told that he wished he would have calculated it but he would say 20,000
square feet of actual new construction.
Mr. Williams told that it is 6850 square feet for each floor on the field house and 8800
square feet in the front entrance.
Mr. Dickson ask on the 8800 part of that is classrooms and part of it is office space.
Dr. Smith told that the entire 2nd
floor of that is classroom space. He told that the 1st
floor is the entrance, Administrative office area, and guidance department.
Mr. Dickson told that when the school was built there was a future expansion off the
2nd
floor across from the vocational part. He asked if that would be used.
Dr. Smith told that they can’t utilize that. He told that they investigated that
thoroughly and it is generally thought that the specifications for the weight load would
not work.
Mr. Hutchins told that codes changes and frequently there are ways to work around or
to enhance or reengineer to make it usable and ask if that was looked at and if so what is
the specific problem.
Mr. Williams told that it was and you would have to take the roof loads all the way to
the ground and you would have to go in and cut out foundations in the ground because
you have to carry the whole roof load. He told that the only thing that the roof would
carry would be the floor. He told that with the labor intensity of doing that you could
build somewhere else for less money.
Dr. Smith told that they are very proud of the instructional program that they have and
they do so much for the kids. He told that people ask why the school can’t hold as many
students as is used to. He told that the guidelines have changed drastically. He told that
the graduation standards for 1974 were 18 credits to graduate and now it requires 24 and
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26. He told that now we have to utilize the facility in such a diverse way and it causes us
to use the school in a different way.
Dr. Littrell ask about the auxiliary gym and wants to know if the left portion is the
gym itself and the piece on the right is a 2 story portion with classrooms and restrooms.
Dr. Smith told that if you have ever attended any of the games in the gym you will
know that there are not enough bathroom facilities. He told that we usually have 700
people and only 2 bathrooms. He told that they made sure that bathrooms were added in
the bid because we receive complaints every year.
Mr. Larrowe told that Dr. Smith had mentioned the balcony in the current gym and
ask if it is going to be classrooms.
Dr. Smith told that they have not planned that yet. He told that he spoke with several
members of his Board about that and they said hang on with that because it would take
seating capacity out of the gym, but it is a possibility. He told that they could possibly fit
3 regular size classrooms along the balcony and it would be suitable for temporary
occupancy. He told that it is still one of the possibilities. He told that above the balcony
there are wooden bleachers and that is where Mr. Larrowe is referring to. He told that he
is not sure that with the additional students that they would be able to have a full
assembly if they do that.
Mr. Jett told that the auditorium is not big enough to hold all the students.
Dr. Smith told that it is just less than 900 seats.
Dr. Littrell ask about the horticulture and auto mechanics building and ask if there
were any thoughts of making it two story.
Mr. Williams told that it will be a free standing building and it will be a pre-
engineered structure. He told that it really doesn’t work for auto mechanics because of
the lifts. He told that there is a storage area on top.
Dr. Smith told that they would move onto the Hillsville site. He told that the entrance
way is a critical piece. He told that it is the most sensitive area of a school because that is
where people walk into the building. He told that the current office is far away from the
entrance and you cannot see who is coming. He told that once you walk in you can
access the entire building and that is not good. He told that it has to be changed and the
new construction creates new office space and provides a secure area for students to enter
the building. He told that this allows 3 classrooms to be constructed where the old office
is.
Mr. Hutchins ask how many square feet it is.
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Dr. Smith told that it looks like 2560 and told that it is not a large area. He told that it
will allow for the drop off area to be safer. He told that the parent drop off will be in the
rear of the building. He told that it is congested on Main Street in the mornings when
students are being dropped off. He told that they have added onto the basement area. He
told that it was not a finished bottom floor and they can add classroom space. He told
that there will be 3 floors of classrooms and it will be an independent facility. He told
that it is nothing fancy. Dr. Smith told that they will renovate the current media center as
media center. He told that the alternates will be next. He told that they would love to be
able to get all of the alternates but he does not think it will make it in.
Mr. Hutchins ask what the cost of the new construction per square foot is estimated at.
Mr. Williams told that they estimated $130 per square foot. He told that they received
bids on other more difficult but smaller buildings last week that came in at $100 per foot
but he is not going to say that for Virginia because for some reason we don’t get as good
of prices in Virginia. He told that they anticipate that it will come back in for what it bid
for the first time or less.
Mr. Hutchins told that he had been hearing from some friends that $100 per square
foot is what a plain vanilla building has been coming in for.
Mr. Williams told that if that was the case we could possibly get it for $100 because it
is vanilla.
Dr. Smith told that he had a call in about that but no one ever called him back. He
told that he does not know what the State average is. He told that the instructional impact
is next and they are very proud of the programs that they offer. He told that they
anticipate a very positive conversation regarding the STEM program on the 28th
. He told
that they offer diverse programs for the students and this will be further growth of the
academic program. He told that STEM is an important project and they are excited about
it and it is a regional project. He told that this plan will pose obstacles for us with larger
classroom sizes. He told one thing that he heard when he started was smaller classroom
sizes was a real pride and it still is. He told that this will directly impact the class sizes at
the high school and we should know that going in. He told that we can handle larger
class sizes. He told that there will be reduced flexibility of schedules and they will be
meeting the minimum standard of the DOE. He told that if we do not establish new
construction we will not meet those standards for student space. He told that there will
be around 90 teachers and not all of them will have their own classrooms and that is an
issue. He told that they will be locked into the program they have now or something
similar. He told that they will establish the square footage for the program that they
currently have and it will take he predicts for some programs to be eliminated because of
the space limitations. He told that there will be increased student travel to remote
locations because there will be 9 classrooms in the field house and those students will be
traveling. He told that it concerns him and they will be unsupervised for a period of time
during the travel. He told that 99% of the time things will go fine but that 1% concerns
him. He told that they have extensive in various rooms like the band room and others and
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we will be utilizing these rooms for nonparticipating students. So, the band room may
act as a math room and what do you think will happen to the equipment. He told that this
will happen in the drafting labs, computer labs and any other space that is available. He
told that students are students and things will happen. He told that they currently have 3
computer labs that are used for SOL testing. He told that it is important to have the
media center on the 2nd
floor of the entrance because they will be using that for testing as
well. He told that the bulk of testing takes place at the secondary level in grade 9 through
11. He told that bringing 9th
grade up doubles there testing so it is an important
component. Dr. Smith told that he is recommending to the School Board that they
approve the base bid and alternates as listed on the handout.
Dr. Littrell ask if the alternates are in that order.
Dr. Smith told that he would think it would be up to the Board to determine that based
on money and fundamental needs. He told that the HVAC System is a conversation that
the Board needs to have but this is the recommendation that he is making.
Dr. Littrell ask if they do not get the horticulture and auto mechanics building it just
goes away.
Dr. Smith told that it goes away but we will have to place those programs somewhere.
He told that they have been racking their brains to see where they could be placed. He
told that he has had the conversation with local property owners and the staff at the
Crossroads facility and they are exploring all options in case this doesn’t make.
Dr. Littrell ask how many classrooms will we be adding in the base bid.
Dr. Smith told that it would be 15 for around 330 students.
Mr. Jett told that they are used to a 7 period class day the school is now performing 4
blocks and it gives the students more opportunities to take more classes but told that it is
more complicated as far as scheduling and that is why the space is important.
Dr. Smith told that one of the rationales was going back to the QSAB application and
the narrative language which states on the last sentence of both paragraphs explaining the
project at both sites and that the HVAC and electrical systems will be evaluated. He told
that it is not a critical piece of the project and it hasn’t been from the start. He told that
we all know that it needs to be considered but in terms of the QSAB application from the
beginning it has not been a core part. He told that this stays true to the application.
Mr. Hutchins ask why it was not a core part of the project.
Dr. Smith told that it was one of the decisions that he had to make.
Mr. Hutchins told that he ask because have seen examples several times of pictures
and they have been briefed that here is a calamity waiting to happen. He told that it
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makes him wonder why we wouldn’t have included it in this as critical as we have been
told it is.
Dr. Smith told that the application process awarded points and the mechanical system
was not a high priority item.
Ms. Quesenberry told that it had no point value.
Mr. Hutchins told that it looks like we went for the maximum points instead of the
maximum benefits.
Ms. Quesenberry told that the second round of the QSAB was for energy efficient
projects and the third round was for consolidation and closing older schools.
Dr. Smith told that they applied for the second round and did not get it. He told that
the new square footage will make the transition possible and the goal of the project is to
close Woodlawn.
Mr. Jett told that one thing about it being an alternate is we will know a true cost.
Mr. Hutchins told that he is trying to rationalize the advantage of it being separate.
Mr. Jett told that the Board will have to decide which of the alternates we can afford
and what fits in.
Mr. Utz told that if we don’t get the space then it is null and void.
Dr. Littrell told that the Board has asked Mr. Larrowe to give a synapsis of some
things that they have talked about.
Mr. Larrowe told that he just returned from a meeting where they signed off on an
application from the Tobacco Commission for the school to upgrade equipment. He told
that one of the important aspects is that Carroll County is fully engaged in and supportive
of education and the activities that are going on. He told that the Board is supportive of
the improvements of the facility and construction in partnership with the School Board
and that is really important. He told that it is important to understand that it is a
partnership and in every aspect we have to be working together to make this project
work. He told that this Board has a set of goals and they have done that ever since they
were elected and they work towards those. He told that they hang inside the conference
room and they are reminded of the goals on a regular basis. He told that he wanted to
remind the School Board that one of the major goals is to plan for the future of Carroll
County and underneath that number one is regarding Phase III and its focuses. He told
that this Board has not been anything except supportive of education and understands the
connection between education and prosperity. He told that one of the things that some
people get focused on is K12 education and checking out the boxes to make sure that we
get kids from kindergarten to 12th
grade and then they are somewhere. He told that the
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Board is interested in KLife education and being able to have something for these kids in
the future to be able to stay for. Mr. Larrowe told that there have been a lot of
investments and activity along the way that we are very proud of. He told that we may
have some opportunities in the future and we will tie those together.
Mr. Larrowe told that there are some things that the Board is very concerned about.
He told that he thinks everyone is on the same page that we have to follow the QSAB
requirements. He told that the Board is concerned about the needs and making sure they
are addressed. He told that we have seen the pictures of water lines and such that have
been brought to us. He told that there has been continuous discussion whether it is in the
hallway or a formal session about the infrastructure of CCHS. He told that it is a 40 year
old school and we understand that there are some challenges there and they need to be
addressed along with the educational space that is needed.
Mr. Gardner told that they have pointed out tonight that you cannot do the HVAC and
get the needed space for $15 million.
Mr. Larrowe told that there may be some opportunities there.
Mr. Gardner told that you can’t do both. He told that without the space you have no
project.
Mr. Larrowe told that he is just addressing the concerns. He told that we want it to be
functional and able for growth not only within the school system but in the community as
well. He told that the Board is very cognizant of the history of Phase I and II. He told
that if we go back and look at those he still gets hit on a regular basis about if the space
was adequately designed, having extra architectural pieces and so on. He told that we are
not here to debate that but there are some lessons to be learned and he is sure that every
one of you have been asked the same questions.
Mr. Utz told that was before their time.
Mr. Larrowe told that he understands but we need to learn from history. He told that
some of the things we do is think about that and actually there was a comment last night
talking about they need something to do is what was posted. He told that one of the
things that the Board of Supervisors has done is talking about Phase I and II and being
mindful that we don’t have a repeat. He told that there was a quote that was come up
with talking about a Chevrolet verses a Lexus and where is this community in being able
to support that and making sure that we are cognizant of that in Phase III. He told that he
is not going to suggest where we were on Phase I and II but there is a lot of people who
could end up answering that question. He told that another concern is about the space
that had been designed for entry into the high school and is it a Chevrolet or Lexus and is
this the most prudent use of funds in this project. He told that going back to Phase I and
II, Mr. Utz wasn’t here then but you are now. He told that it is not that the Board wants
to micromanage, they are just questions within the community and the best way to
address those is to ask. He told that he has a picture that was taken at Mt. Airy High
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School and they have just constructed this with the help of Pinnacle and it looks very
similar to the front of the high school.
Mr. Williams ask if we have been in the facility and told that it is very beautiful.
Mr. Larrowe told that he had not been in it and he is sure that it is nice.
Dr. Smith suggested that we ask Mr. Williams what the cost comparison is for the
materials. He told that he is assuming that you are speaking to brick instead of glass.
Mr. Larrowe told that he would love to have that. He told that there is no question
about it being beautiful but he does not want us to get into the same discussion as before
and if it is something that was not really needed.
Mr. Utz told that Mt. Airy is doing another project right now.
Mr. Larrowe told that another thing is the current economic condition. He told that
each person in here understands the current condition of not only this county but the state
and nation. He told that the Board has no interest in burdening future generations with
additional school debt above where they are this time. He told that this is something that
the Board is clarifying and what we have talked about all along is a $15 million project.
He told that the Board has been very eager, signed off on, provided for whatever was
necessary to get the $26 million however that was amortized as 2 year nonpayment, 38
years ammonization. He told that amortized money is different over 40 years than it is
over 16 years and anyone with a calculator can understand that. He told that the Board
has made a point to make this project work and setting aside the fund balance of $1.5
million for the payment that will be coming up in the future. He told that if we learn
from history what would have taken place years ago, the money would have been
amortized over the full 16 years and it would have been almost impossible to have done
this without a tax increase and we have found a way to do that for this project and that is
admirable for the Board to make that happen. He told that $15 million has been repeated
time and time again. He told that there were some interesting comments made about that
and the USDA application that was removed recently. He told that was not done as a
slam to the schools. He told that the opportunity to receive those funds was very limited
and we have also been told and verified with Mr. Williams even that the USDA
application is a daunting task for a bidder and we didn’t feel that we got the best bid for
the project because of the application. He told that if the USDA application is so
cumbersome and so deteriorating and there is little to no chance of getting the money
why would we want to proceed on. He told that it was a procedural matter and we hope
that we will end up getting better bids and the extra money will go back into the project.
He told that we are interested in getting the best bang for the best while fulfilling the
QSAB requirements. He told that we want to get everything taken care of now so there is
not an emergency situation in the future about water lines broken or the HVAC System
down where the Board would be faced with more debt. He told that we need to work in
unison to make that happen. He told that we all know who is paying the bill and in this
economic time it is hard to tell friends and family that we keep borrowing money. He
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told that in the future when we have some growth because of the investments that we
have made then there is a possibility. He ask how many have talked about how many
exits we have in Carroll County and only 1 had infrastructure to them prior to this Board
and all 4 have infrastructure now and that will help the tax base of the County and we are
already seeing evidence of that. He told that one way of not succeeding is to not do
anything. He told that he remembers when I-77 came through and everyone said that
would be the salvation of the County and we would end up having industry and it never
happened because we never invested in ourselves until now.
Mr. Utz told that if we don’t have a school system we are not going to get the projects
like you think.
Mr. Larrowe told that it is the chicken and the egg and let’s not have any infrastructure
put in place and see what happens because we have been doing that for the last 40 years.
Mr. Golding commented that you said you weren’t going to have any more burden on
the people of this county and ask if we have put a burden on them with debt that we have
gone in for sewer and water.
Mr. Larrowe told that there has been $1 million in debt.
Mr. Golding ask how much was borrowed.
Mr. Larrowe told that it is around $24 million, however, that is an enterprise program
and it has revenue that comes back in so that is how USDA requires us to do that and the
school system can’t end up repaying the same thing.
Mr. Golding told that you think the future is infrastructure and I think the future is
education.
Mr. Larrowe told that he is not arguing and they go hand in hand. He told that you
have to have both, not just one. He told that the bottom line is the cost is $15 million per
the Board of Supervisors motion on March 28, 2011 and it was also confirmed by the
School Board on April 4, 2011 when there was a letter that came back from the school
system confirming the $15 million. He told that there were only 3 QSAB’s funded in the
State for $15 million.
Mr. Gardner told that we are proposing to do the project for $15 million but we cannot
do that project and have everything that you want in it, the Board of Supervisors want in
it and the School Board wants in it. He told that is why we have alternate bids and we
will put in what we can and we know that it is $15 million, but we have to have the space
or we have no project.
Mr. Larrowe told that he understands that, however from the video last night you said
something about needing to access all kinds of funding sources for additional funding.
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Mr. Utz told that we started out with a $26 million project and we got almost half of it.
Mr. Gardner told that he thinks we will explore all funding options for the exits and
why would you not explore it for education.
Mr. Larrowe told that is not his question to answer and the only thing he is saying is
that it was agreed upon.
Mr. Hutchins told that Dr. Smith came before our Board several times and said we can
make this happen with the $15 and that is why we agreed to it.
Mr. Jett told that we can close Woodlawn with $15 million and that is what the
requirement is and that is what is going to happen.
Mr. Larrowe told that the Board just wanted to bring those concerns to you and we let
you know what they are and to get the best bang for the buck. He told that the most
important part is to have team work and not communicating and not being involved.
Mr. Gardner told that the resolution that was passed on Monday was not
communicated.
Mr. Larrowe told that is not correct and Dr. Smith and he spent time last week and we
talked about that being something that was going to happen.
Dr. Smith told that we talked about a great many possibilities including additional
funding by USDA and those possibilities.
Mr. Larrowe asked if they did not talk about it.
Dr. Smith told that we did talk about the possibility but the conversation that we had
on June 28th
was that the USDA project might have caused some concern with the bid so
we had talked about pulling that out. He told that when we talked earlier in the week we
had the conversation but then I talked with Travis Jackson about the possibility of the
USDA funding coming forward and it was a very positive conversation. He told that
after that conversation he was a bit surprised that the Board acted so decisively to
eliminate that possibility because it is a good possibility even though the funding process
was not determined. He told that when the financial team met they talked about the
possibility of additional funding and there were limitations set but it was always a
possibility and that is why the conversation continued and it was still lingering.
Mr. Larrowe told that it has been talked about this being a $15 million project and the
potential may have been there, however I did talk with USDA and was told that there was
$48 million available nationwide and that is not going to end up giving us anything and it
is not something that would end up being a huge influx for this community. He told that
he knows there has been some discussion about what that would end up being but the
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reality is the Federal government is broke. He said that the possibility is approaching
zero.
Dr. Smith told that he has stayed in contact with Travis Jackson and was told that
recently Emory and Henry College received $5 or $6 million in funds in USDA funds for
their field house project. He told that the conversation that he had with him last week
was the possibility of $4 million. He told that he doesn’t know if we would need $4
million but it is disappointing that the possibility is cut off and ended so abruptly on
Monday night. He told that it was a beneficial program for us all and the chairs have
shared this conversation about adding something more and there has always been that
conversation and he wants to keep that conversation going because we may need
something. He told that we all know its $15 million but if we need just a little bit more
would you be willing to consider. He told that it would help the School Board if the
Board is willing to consider an additional $500,000 or $1 million if it was needed in the
end.
Mr. Larrowe told that is a question for the Board of Supervisors, however I have been
given direction that the project is $15 million. He told that he had an email from a Board
member last night that said how many times we have to say it is $15 million. He told that
it is interesting in that if you say you are going to buy your kid a car and set an amount
and they bring something back that costs more what are you going to do.
Mr. Dickson told that the Chairs and Vice Chairs met and discussed this and the
reason that the application was pulled is when the bids came in we were shocked. He
told that we were lead to believe that this is the time to get bids in low so we hurried. He
told that he ask the two gentleman why we left the USDA requirements in and the
response was we didn’t have time to change it.
Mr. Jett told that is what he was told on the 28th
.
Mr. Dickson told that was why the bids come in high.
Mr. McMillian told that two different contractors told him that they did not bid
because the requirements were in there.
Mr. Dickson told that Mr. Berrier ask what happens if it comes in $1 million over and
his answer was we could go to Carter Bank and he will loan it at a low interest rate
because USDA is not the only ones that loan money. He told that is why he voted the
way he did to get lower bids and if the majority says that we need to borrow additional
we could go to someone. He told that when the $27 million was coming from USDA
everything was great and it would work without raising taxes but it was a 40 year term
until no money showed up. He told that the assessment people came into town this week
and people are figuring if their property is lower they are going to pay less taxes. He told
that he would love to see the whole thing especially the baseball field but it didn’t happen
and we have to do the best we can do.
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Mr. Hutchins ask if Davis Bacon will affect the labor rates in this area.
Mr. Williams stated that it would just tell you what you have to pay.
Mr. Hutchins told that it is higher than the going rate in this area right now.
Mr. Williams told that QSAB has that requirement.
Mr. Golding told that he has heard in the county for 10 years regarding the
beautification of the elementary schools and none of us had anything had anything to do
with it. He told that we looked for an architect firm that would do a good school and one
that would provide our kids with a good instructional problem and he doesn’t want that
thrown up to him anymore. He told that none of us will be here making those decisions
in 20 years and we have to think about the future. He told that it is not about politics but
to do what is best for Carroll County.
Dr. Smith told that we talked about the entrance way and we wanted something that
was useful but that we could be proud of. He told that they came up with a plan that was
cost effective.
Mr. Williams told that Gary managed to photograph the best part because there is
vanilla beside of it. He told that it is the front of the building and everyone here
understands that education is something that industries look at when they come into the
community. He told that the elementary schools are beautiful and people are impressed
by them. He told that he didn’t have anything to do with those. He told that his schools
are vanilla, functional and economical. He told that they just did a building for less than
$100 per square foot. He told that this area is the only place that has any character to it.
He told that 20 feet behind it there are 2 stories that hold the media center and the offices.
He told that there are no windows in the media center now. He told that it would cost
twice as much for brick as it would for glass. He told that if it was brick it would have to
be reinforced with #5 rebar inside it. Mr. Williams told that the glass will identify the
front of the building and it is the only architectural feature in the entire project.
Mr. McMillian ask if that is true why don’t we do all the walls in glass.
Mr. Williams told that it doesn’t have to have air in it. He told that it has a better
rating than any other walls in the building. He told that it is very attractive and it will be
70 feet and it is less expensive than brick.
Dr. Smith told that if the Board chooses to alter the plan and take this part out would it
be an additional cost.
Mr. Williams told that it would cost more and it would be less attractive. He told that
the baseball field would have been attractive too. He told that if we had the $26 million
we could have got all of it and that is why we bid it out separate because we knew we
would have to pick and choose.
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Mr. Hutchins told that he heard just today that surely you aren’t going to build the
same as the elementary schools and told that he would like to see a cost comparison of
engineering costs between and if it is cheaper and we have numbers to show it makes it
easier to defend.
Mr. Williams called his engineer today and ask if we had done it in brick would it cost
the same thing or more and was told that it is cheaper with the glass because you would
have to have deeper footers, rebar, etc. He told that it could be one and one half or two
times as much.
Mr. Hutchins told that if we could get the comparison to be able to tell people.
Mr. McMillian told that they have had their ears bent because of the architectural
nightmares. He told that St. Paul looks like a community college and we have a
responsibility to tell the taxpayers that we are not going to make the same architectural
mistakes.
Mr. Williams told that he would like to take everyone to see some of the other
buildings.
Mr. McMillian asked about the 20 feet back.
Mr. Williams told that is where the media center and administrative offices are. He
told that it also gives the kids a place to stand out of the weather.
Mr. McMillian told that we have kids everywhere and he knows that can’t be helped.
Dr. Smith told that the security is a main concern and they already have cameras on
site and we will have to evaluate it.
Mr. Williams told that when we need $27 million and only have $15 million he thinks
Dr. Smith’s use is about as good as you can use it to solve the problem.
Mr. Jett told that he was involved in Phase II and Carroll’s project came in the
cheapest in the state and he doesn’t want to lose sight of that. He told that Hillsville
Elementary was a prototype that had been built several times before and we didn’t have
all the architectural fees so it made it come in cheaper. He told that we still hear about it
as well. He told that they have visited several schools that Pinnacle has been involved in
and he likes their approach because it is simple and clean.
Mr. Hurst told that he thinks we all have the same common goal and we have a
responsibility to get the best for the money and we know we can only spend so much
money. He told that the important thing is to get the best value. He told that if it gets
down to it and we only need a certain amount of money then that is the time to pull the
trigger. He told that we only have the $15 million for now and we have to figure out how
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to get the best bang for the buck. He told that it is not going to be perfect and its not
going to have a golden star but we have to represent the students and citizens of the
County. He told that after the 16 years what are we going to have to show for it. He told
that he doesn’t want to walk away from it thinking if we would have spent another
million to get something that is going to cost way more 16 years from now. He told that
we owe it to ourselves and to the citizens to explore all the opportunities.
Mr. Jett agrees and told that is what the School Board has tried to do. He told that
they have worked tons and tons and it has gone from a new high school to what we have
now. He told that the educational components are the biggest part and we feel
comfortable with what has been presented tonight.
Mr. Gardner told that they have schedules and bills to pay and the $15 million is there
so he ask that the Board appropriate that. He told that a Public Hearing has to be held to
do that and he would encourage you to do that because the engineer has not been paid.
He told that we have a legal obligation to do that.
Mr. Dickson ask if we have a bill to know how much we owe.
Ms. Quesenberry told that the last thing they got was for a little over $1.6 million and
there is about $15,000 worth of reimbursables.
Mr. Dickson ask if that was the total.
Ms. Quesenberry told that is what they owe to date and that will put us at 75% paid.
Mr. Dickson ask how much the total bill is.
Ms. Quesenberry replied it is $2.3 million.
Mr. Golding told that they have done the work and it has been changed 3 times. He
told that the money is there all we have to do is pay them.
Mr. Jett told that the Board took action on the Clerk of the Works that the County
would pay for and ultimately they were to report to both Boards and nowhere in the
document does it say that they will report to the School Board and that gravely concerns
him. He told that they are elected to make educational decisions for the county and we
feel like we are being circumvented. He told that the original document was different.
Mr. Larrowe told that there have been some discussions about the Clerk signing off on
pay requests and is that still on the table.
Mr. Jett told that he would think so.
Dr. Smith told that it would be change orders, questions, and various issues with the
construction. He told that many of the recommendations would come from the Clerk.
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He told that the document he saw is inconsistent with what we are talking about now
which is working as a team and the language in it is unacceptable. He told that they
would like to have a Clerk.
Mr. Hutchins ask if it is the reporting piece.
Dr. Smith replied yes.
Mr. Hutchins told that you are saying if they are reporting to both you are okay with it.
Mr. Jett read through the job description and told that it does not involve the School
Board and hopes that they will reconsider. He told the partnership has to be there and
this will go a long way as far as that goes.
Mr. Dickson ask if they thought it was a good idea.
Mr. Jett told that they have talked about it from day 1.
Mr. McMillian ask what it came in at when they put it out.
Dr. Smith told that it was put out at 20 hours per week over a 26 month period and it
came in around $95,000 to $120,000.
Mr. Golding told the reason they didn’t put much emphasis on this is the architectural
firm assured us they would be here 3 days a week to manage the construction and we
were trying to save cost.
Dr. Littrell ask if the draft that he was shown is acceptable.
Mr. Jett told that it looks very similar in design.
Mr. Golding suggested that the two chairs get together and figure out the wording and
bring it back to us.
Mr. Hutchins told that there has to be cooperation between all or it will fail. He told
that typically it is hard for a person to answer to two masters. He told that he is there as
the eyes and ears of the tax payers and a County as a whole.
Mr. Gardner told that the information has to flow.
Mr. Hutchins told that a good Clerk can save a lot of money on change orders.
Mr. Gardner made a motion to accept the scale down project as presented and move
forward with the bid. The motion was seconded by Mr. Golding.
Mr. Jett told that this would authorize Pinnacle to prepare bid documents.
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Mr. Hutchins made a motion that we set a Public Hearing for receipt of the funding
and allocation at the August 8, 2011 meeting. The motion was seconded by Mr. Jackson.
The vote was unanimous.
Dr. Smith ask about the Clerk of the Works.
Mr. Hutchins made a motion for the Chairs to work out the Clerk of Works position
and advertise as quickly as we can. The motion was seconded by Mr. Mcmillian and the
vote was unanimous.
Mr. Gardner made a motion for the Chairs to work on the Clerk of the Works position
and get it out as soon as possible. The motion was seconded by Mr. Utz and the vote was
unanimous.
Mr. Hutchins made a motion to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Mr. Jackson
and the vote was unanimous.
Mr. Williams told that he cannot get the bid out until they are paid so they will not get
started until August 8th
.
Dr. Littrell called the Board to order for a special meeting.
Mr. Hutchins made a motion to pay a partial bill as a bridge loan in the amount of
$850,000 for A&E fees from the fund balance to expedite the school project and we will
be reimbursed for that as soon as the allocation for the QSAB dollars are done based on
advice from council. The motion was seconded by Mr. McMillian and the vote was
unanimous.
Mr. Gardner made a motion to execute payment to Pinnacle for invoices in the amount
of $850,000 and to receive the loan from the Board of Supervisors. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Utz and the vote was unanimous.
ADJOURMENT
Upon motion by Mr. McMillian seconded by Mr. Hutchins and passing, the Board
adjourned.
VOTES
Mr. Jackson Yes
Mr. Hurst Yes
Mr. Hutchins Yes
Mr. Dickson Yes
Dr. Littrell Yes
Mr. McMillian Yes
July 13, 2011
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Upon motion by Mr. Berrier seconded by Mr. Golding and passing, the School Board
The Carroll County Enterprise Zone Designated Area offers these incentives:
Water and Sewer Rate Credits
Number of New Jobs Credits
25 or more 50% --Year 1
25% --Years 2 & 3
10% --Years 4 & 5
10-24 40% --Year 1
20% --Years 2 & 3
10% --Years 4 & 5
1-9 20% --Year 1
10% --Year 2 & 3
5% -- Years 4 & 5
Building Permit & Zoning Fee Waivers Carroll County will waive the required building permit and zone fees for new or expanding commercial
or industrial developments locating in the Enterprise Zone.
Eligibility: Any new or expanding business or industry located within an Enterprise Zone.
*All local incentives are in addition to enterprise zone incentives offered by the state of
Virginia and must meet Virginia State qualifications for an enterprise zone.
COUNTY OF CARROLL
APPROVAL ITEM
Background:
Reaffirmation is requested from the Board on the Enterprise Zone Incentives that were identified
by the State.
Budget Impact:
$0
Recommendations:
Staff recommend that the Board approve.
AGENDA TITLE: AGENDA DATE: Enterprise Zone August 8, 2011 STAFF CONTACTS: LEGAL REVIEW: Gary Larrowe No Reviewed By: Pam Smith
COUNTY OF CARROLL
APPROVAL ITEM
Background: Several months ago, the Local Emergency Planning Committee (LEPC) began the process for joint certification of Carroll County, Grayson County, and the City of Galax by the National Weather Service to become a Storm Ready County. Part of the process for Storm Ready certification is to amend the County's Emergency Operations Plan (EOP )to include statements required by weather service to be included in the EOP.
Budget Impact:
$0
Recommendations:
Staff recommend that the Board approve.
AGENDA TITLE: AGENDA DATE: Emergency Operations Plan August 8, 2011 STAFF CONTACTS: LEGAL REVIEW: Mike Mock No Reviewed By: Gary Larrowe
When complete: copy to department head, copy to additional appropriation file, copy to
departmental budget file
Carroll County Government
Additional Allocation – FY2012
Request for:
The County has received an award notification from the Commonwealth of Virginia
Department of Health in the amount of $116,678.40. The grant is to be used to purchase
a new ambulance for Carroll County Fire and Rescue. The grant represents 80% of the
cost of the ambulance. The remaining 20% (at least $29,169.60) is included in the
FY2012 capital projects budget.
Date Approved by Board of Supervisors:
8/8/11
Revenue Source:
Other Cat Aid – EMS Grant – 24040-0021 $116,678.40
Expenditure line item to be adjusted (include account number):
Capital Projects – Motor Vehicles – 94000-8005 $116,678.40
Expenditure Budget Adjustment made by: ___________________________________
Date: ______________________
COUNTY OF CARROLL
APPROVAL ITEM
Background:
CCFR has been awarded $116,688.40 from the Commonwealth of Virginia Department of
Health to be used toward the purchase of a new ambulance.
Budget Impact:
$116,678.40
Recommendations:
Staff recommend that the Board approve.
AGENDA TITLE: AGENDA DATE: EMS Grant August 8, 2011 STAFF CONTACTS: LEGAL REVIEW: Pam Smith No Reviewed By: Gary Larrowe
Carroll County Government
Additional Appropriation Worksheet – FY2012
Appropriation for:
Carroll County has received $8,693 from the Virginia Department of Fire Programs for
use in the Carroll and volunteer fire prevention programs. Mike Mock is asking that
these funds be appropriated for use.
Date Approved by Board of Supervisors:
8/8/2011
Revenue Source:
Other Categorical Aid – Fire Funds – 24040-0012 $8,693.00
Expenditure line item to be adjusted (include account number):
Volunteer Fire – Fire Funds – 32020-7000 $8,693.00
Expenditure Budget Adjustment made by: ___________________________________
Date: ______________________
COUNTY OF CARROLL
APPROVAL ITEM
Background:
Additional Fire Funds have been received an must be allocated in order to be spent.
Budget Impact:
$8693.00
Recommendations:
Staff recommend that the Board approve.
AGENDA TITLE: AGENDA DATE: Fire Funds August 8, 2011 STAFF CONTACTS: LEGAL REVIEW: Pam Smith No Reviewed By: Gary Larrowe
Communication Tax Distribution ReportCarroll County VA
Communication Tax Distribution reports are reported to the Commissioner of the Revenue Office monthly. Reports and distributions are received approximately two months after the last day of the current month.
Submitted 7/18/2011 by:Louise L. Quesenberry
Commissioner of the RevenueCarroll County
2010 TOTAL (JAN - DEC) - $1,089,179.05 2011 TOTAL (JAN - MAY) - $427,832.90
Parcel Count - July 1, 2011 32812
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Carroll County General ReassessmentTime Line - July 2011 thru June 2013
114 A 16(Pt) Carroll County Public Service Authority 923-458 06/21/11 0.371 Partial/Road 697 2 4500 Hall Ivan Oscar PG
123 A 94 Carpenter Timothy A & Christine S 923-551 06/22/11 11.437 Road 815 2 77300 125800 70000 Carpenter Robert L 1.0 Brick 1422 PG
81 12 6 Dixon Curtis W 923-768 06/27/11 Lot 6 W L Noah 2 75000 87000 87000 Felts Charles D 1.0 Brick 1000 PG
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2011 REAL ESTATE SALES
TAX I.D. #: GRANTEE DEED BOOK DATE ACREAGE DESCRIPTION CLASS IMP VALUE TOTAL VALUE SALE PRICE RATIO PER LOT PER ACRE GRANTOR DWLG SIZE DIST
110 A 123(Pt) Cook Michael J & Debra N 923-863 06/28/11 14.585 Partial/Road 712 2 45000 3085 Haynes William S PG
112 A 76 Sim Hyeong J & Julie S 923-949 06/28/11 59.809 Road 711 5 500 185000 180000 1.028 3010 Hill Barney Odell PG
65 A 131 Marshall Leonard Scott & Donna Gayle 922-322 06/01/11 1.340 Road 705 2 149700 164700 134500 1.225 Gravley Brenda D 1.0 Brick 1550(Bsmt Fin) SS
31 1 33 Tassy Oliver 922-601 06/06/11 Lot 33 New River Oaks 2 0 35000 47500 0.737 47500 Flashover Investments SS
92 A 30G Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp 923-067 06/13/11 0.653 Road 607 2 123800 135800 155422 Warf Dustin J 1.0 Modular 1701 SS
79 A 70(Pt) Blevins Larry Clinton Jr & Trista Sexton 923-080 06/13/11 26.641 Partial/Road 722 5 98571 3700 Kerr Martha S SS
33 6 6 Smith Cory Shane & Elena 923-275 06/17/11 0.855 Horton Hills 2 133400 143400 125000 1.147 Layman Richard 1.0 Vinyl 1624 SS
92 2 706 Cixneros Rafael Sandoval & Anaid 923-417 06/20/11 2.250 Revere Road 2 79700 93500 79900 1.170 Blue Ridge Land Dev Doublewide 1512 SS
61 A 29C Robinson Michael W Jr & Michael W Sr 923-485 06/21/11 0.883 Road 793 2 4200 16200 15000 Frost Neil B Mobile Home Site SS
95A 1 20 Garland Jeffrey S & Jeannie B 923-498 06/21/11 Lot 20 Jenn-Russ 2 299600 339600 398000 0.853 Dalton Stephen D 2.0 Vinyl/Brick 3190 SS
49 5 2 Shupe Alonzo D 923-517 06/21/11 3.465 Road 620 2 0 17300 6000 Parris Margie L SS
65 A 52 Noblett Arthur L & Edna L 923-524 06/21/11 23.459 Road 705 5 138700 298800 250000 1.195 Lintecum Enterprises Inc 1.0 Brick 1800 SS
92 8 5A Brich Stephen M & Roberta R 923-547 06/22/11 1.766 Road 721 2 5000 23100 23000 1.004 23000 Whitaker Anglea Well/Septic SS
30 2 49 Fitzgerald Jeffrey s & Margaritee V 923-626 06/23/11 Lot 49 New River Oaks 2 0 35000 49500 0.707 49500 Flashover Investments SS
79 A 70(Pt) DeVries Gordon & Judith 923-748 06/24/11 25.463 Partial/Road 722 5 90100 3538 Kerr Martha S SS
60 A 165 & 76 A 42 Catron Shannon Elaine 923-913 06/28/11 23.572 Hwy 94/Interest 5 38500 96400 40000 Criner Herbert W 1.0 Alum Siding 870 SS
340 A 33 Properties on the Ridge LLC 922-770 06/08/11 0.600 Hwy 58 4 265300 396000 396000 KWOW Properties LLC 2.0 Brick Commercial 6816 TOWN
372 1 166 DeHaven Kevin & Donna 922-959 06/10/11 Lots 166 & 168 Northview Hts #2 1 128400 144400 162000 0.891 Mayberry Barry M S/L Brick 2028 TOWN
401 2 5 Quesenberry Kristen & Justin 923-054 06/13/11 Lots 5 & 6 Road 780 1 148700 164700 137000 1.202 Deskins Michael 1.0 Frame 1456 TOWN
402 2 38 & 402 1 39 Jessup William E & Frieda F 923-440 06/20/11 Lots 38 & 39 Highland Park 1 85800 109800 48300 Federal National Mortgage 1.0 Brick 1300 TOWN
341 A 100A Hillsville Pentecostal Holiness Church 923-527 06/21/11 13.553 Virginia St 1 0 94900 90000 1.054 6641 Roma Joseph TOWN
280 A 6 Reynolds Heirs Inc 923-562 06/22/11 Lot Hwy 52 & Forest Dr 1 0 12000 500 Sugar Grove Inc TOWN
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2011 RATIOTAX I.D. #: GRANTEE DEED BOOK DATE ACREAGE DESCRIPTION CLASS IMP VALUE TOTAL VALUE SALE PRICE RATIO Lot Acreage GRANTOR DIST
79A 2 2 Shue Christopher Mark & Jennifer 916-067 02/17/11 Lot 2, Sec 1 Mt Zion Rd 707 2 0 2000 4000 0.500 4000 Utt Elizabeth SS
129D 1 30-33 & 216-218 Simmons Susan F 920-536 04/28/11 0.800 S View Retreat 2 0 13000 25000 0.520 25000 Snow Mountain DevelopmentFG