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I didn't know it was so bad.

Couple of incendiaries,

these old buildings go up like cellophane.

There's a wall that separates

the old section of Nuremberg from the new.

Goes back to...How far does it go back, Schmidt?

-1218 sir.

-1219.

This is where the Nazi Party

held their rallies, isn't it?

They all came here.

Hitler. Goebbels. The whole crew.

Thousands of them, from all over Germany.

Does he have to blow that damn hornso much?

It's not necessary

to blow the horn so much, Schmidt.

You both know your duties?

Well, here we are.

A little bit of old Germany.

- Senator Burkette.

- Captain.Captain Byers, this is Judge Haywood.

- Byers here will be your aide.

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- My what?

Clerk. General guide. Liaison.

Any capacity you wish to use me in.

This will be your staff, sir.

Mr. And Mrs. Halbestadt.

Hello.- Good afternoon.

- Good afternoon, Your Honor.

Welcome.

You've already met your driver, Schmidt.

I am at your service any time you need me.

Day or night.

Thanks.

Let's show him around

the rest of the place. Dan?

We're in the reception room.

Living room.

Study is in there.

There are two bedrooms on this floor,

three upstairs.

Furniture is part antique, part US Army.

The piano's showing signs of wear and tear,

but it's a genuine Bechstein.Quite a view, isn't it, sir?

Senator, I really don't need all this.

The United States government

always does it right.

- You know that, Dan.

- Who used to live here?

An important Nazi general and his wife, sir.

Let's see. Is there anything elseJudge Haywood ought to know?

Sir, are there any questions?

Yes.

- You're West Point, aren't you, Captain?

- Yes, sir.

- What's your first name?

- Harrison. Harry.

Harry, look, I'm not West Point.

And all this formality gets me down a little,not to say puts me ill at ease.

Do you think it would be

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too much an infraction of the rules...

if you were to call me Judge,

or Dan, or something?

Okay, Judge.

We shop at the army commissary.

There isn't enough food at the local marketsfor the Germans.

The driver knows where it is.

Here's a copy of the indictment of the case.

Thought you might want to look it over.

I hope you'll be comfortable here, sir.

Captain, I think the whole state of Maine

would be comfortable here.

My office is next to yours

at the Palace of Justice...

- if you need anything.

- Thank you.

Senator?

Do you think

I really need the three servants?

It kind of makes me feel like a damn fool.

It helps them out, as well as you.

You see, here they eat.I need three servants.

It's good to have a man

of your stature here, Dan.

Sure.

I was the only man in America

qualified for this job.

Senator, you know I wasn't the first choice,

nor even the tenth.- You know it, and I know it.

- What do you mean?

Let's face it.

Hitler is gone, Goebbels is gone.

Goering is gone. Committed suicide

before they could hang him.

Now we're down to the business of judging

the doctors, businessmen and judges.

Some people thinkthey shouldn't be judged at all.

So?

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So it makes for a hell of a lack of candidates

for the job.

You had to beat the backwoods of Maine

to come up with a hick like me.

I hope you're not sorry you came.

No. I'm not sorry I came.I just wanted you to know

that I know where the body is buried.

No, I think the trials should go on.

Especially the trials of the German judges.

I hope I'm up to it.

You're up to it.

Relax.

Thanks.

Enjoy this place while you can.

You're going to be a pretty busy fellow.

Thanks for everything, Senator.

- See you tomorrow, Judge.

- Right.

Shall we take these upstairs?

Yes. Thank you.

- Here, I can take that...

- No, let me take it. Please.Here they come.

The tribunal is now in session.

God bless the United States

and this honorable tribunal.

The tribunal will now arraign

the defendants.

The microphone will be placed

in front of the defendant, Emil Hahn.Emil Hahn?

Are you represented by counsel

before this tribunal?

Not guilty.

The question was, are you represented

by counsel before this tribunal?

I am represented.

How do you plead to the charges

and specifications...in the indictment against you?

Guilty or not guilty?

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Not guilty on all counts.

Friedrich Hoffstetter?



I am represented.

How do you plead? Guilty or not guilty?You may be seated.

Werner Lammpe?



Counsel?

Yes, of course. I am represented.

How do you plead to the charges?


You may be seated.

Ernst Janning?





I represent the defendant, Your Honor.

How do you plead to the charges

and specifications set forth...in the indictment against you?


Your Honor, may I address the court?

The defendant does not recognize

the authority of this tribunal...

and wishes to lodge a formal protest

in lieu of pleading.

A plea of "not guilty" will be entered.The prosecution

will begin its opening address.

Slow and easy, Junior.

The case is unusual...

in that the defendants

are charged with crimes...

committed in the name of the law.

These men, together with their deceased

or fugitive colleagues...are the embodiment of what passed

for justice during the Third Reich.

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The defendants served as judges

during the period of the Third Reich.

Therefore, you, Your Honors,

as judges on the bench...

will be sitting in judgment...

of judges in the dock.And this is as it should be.

For only a judge knows

how much more a court is than a courtroom.

It is a process and a spirit.

It is the house of law.

The defendants knew this, too.

They knew courtrooms well.

They sat in their black robes...

and they distorted, they perverted,

they destroyed justice and law in Germany.

Will the prosecution please watch the light?

- The interpreter cannot follow you.

- I'm sorry, Your Honor.

They distorted, they perverted...

they destroyed justice and law in Germany.

Now, this in itself

is undoubtedly a great crime.But the prosecution

is not calling the defendants...

to account for violating

constitutional guarantees...

or withholding due process of law.

The prosecution

is calling them to account...

for murder...brutalities...

torture...

atrocities.

They share with all the leaders

of the Third Reich...

responsibility for the most malignant,

the most calculated...

the most devastating crimes

in the history of all mankind.And they are perhaps more guilty

than some of the others.

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For they had attained maturity

long before Hitler's rise to power.

Their minds weren't warped at an early age

by Nazi teachings.

They embraced the ideologies

of the Third Reich as educated adults...when they, most of all...

should have valued justice.

Here they'll receive the justice

they denied others.

They'll be judged according to the evidence

presented in this courtroom.

The prosecution asks nothing more.

Herr Rolfe will make the opening statement

for the defense.

May it please the tribunal...

it is not only a great honor...

but also a great challenge...

for an advocate...

to aid this tribunal in its task.

The entire civilized world...

will follow closely what we do here.

For this is not an ordinary trial...by any means

of the accepted, parochial sense.

The avowed purpose of this tribunal...

Is broader than the visiting of retribution

on a few men.

It is dedicated to the reconsecration...

of the temple of justice.

It is dedicated to finding a code of justice...the whole world will be responsible to.

How will this code be established?

It will be established...

in a clear...

honest evaluation...

of the responsibility for the crimes

in the indictment stated by the prosecution.

In the words of the great American jurist,

Oliver Wendell Holmes:"This responsibility will not be found

only in documents...

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"that no one contests or denies.

"It will be found in considerations

of a political or social nature.

"It will be found, most of all...

"in the character of men."

What is the character of Ernst Janning?Let us examine his life for a moment.

He was born in .

Received the degree

of Doctor of Law in .

Became a judge in East Prussia in .

Following WWI, he became one

of the leaders of the Weimar Republic...

and was one of the framers

of its democratic constitution.

In subsequent years

he achieved international fame...

not only for his work as a great jurist,

but also as the author of legal text books...

which are still used in universities

all over the world.

He became Minister of Justice

in Germany in .If Ernst Janning is to be found guilty...

certain implications must arise.

A judge does not make the laws.

He carries out the laws of his country.

The statement:

"My country, right or wrong..."

was expressed by a great American patriot.

It is no less true for a German patriot.Should Ernst Janning have carried out

the laws of his country?

Or should he have refused to carry them out

and become a traitor?

This is the crux of the issue

at the bottom of this trial.

The defense is as dedicated

to finding responsibility...

as is the prosecution.For it is not only Ernst Janning

who is on trial here...

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it is the German people.

The tribunal will recess

until further notification.

If it's all right with you,

Byers can file these briefs later.

That was quite a damning speechby Col. Lawson, wasn't it?

I wonder if those men in the dock

can really be responsible...

for the things he listed in the indictment.

I've been here for two years,

and after that long...

you find that responsibility

is not a cut-and-dried thing.

What are you fellows up to

over the weekend?

My wife and I are going to Lige.

There's nothing in Lige. I've been there.

My son was in the st.

He's buried in the American cemetery

outside Lige.

I'm sorry.

That's all right.See you Monday, Dan.

Coming my way?

No, I'm going to stay here for a moment.

I'm waiting for some records from Byers.

Right.

Here are the reports you asked for, sir.

Thank you.

Captain, do you think you can get me a copyof the books Ernst Janning wrote?

- There are quite a few of them.

- I'd like all of them.

And also a copy of the Weimar constitution.

- Do you think you can get that for me?

- Of course.

Thank you.

- How long have you been here, Captain?

- Two years.- Two years? That's a long time.

- Yes, sir.

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- Any friends?

- Sure.

German friends?

Yes.

A girl?

Yes.Her parents were Nazis,

but she was eight when they came in.

- I didn't ask you that.

- I know.

But maybe you were thinking it.

It's natural to think about it.

I thought if anybody was going to

indoctrinate her, it might as well be me.

Will there be anything else?

No, I think I'll just take a walk around town

on my own.

Try the old section.

Everyone stops for beer and sausage there.

Thank you.

- Do you understand English?

- Yes, a little.

- What did she say?- She said, "Goodbye, Grandpa."

Are they treating you all right?

Yes. They're treating me all right.

We still have some friends...

who have contact

with the American authorities.

I can tell them

if they're not treating you all right.They're treating me all right.

Dr. Janning...

we are both in an embarrassing position.

I know you didn't want me as your counsel.

I know you didn't want anyone.

But I must tell you something.

Will you listen to me?

Yes.

I intend to represent your casewith complete dignity.

There will be...

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no appeal to sentiment,

no falling at the mercy of the court.

The game...

will be played according to their own rules.

We'll see whether they have the courage

to sit in judgment on a man like you.The way I see it...

the most important elements in the case...

are the sterilization decrees,

and the Feldenstein-Hoffman affair.

Dr. Janning, I must tell you something.

I admired you...

since I was a boy in the university.

It was because I thought

I might be able to achieve...

some of the things you have done...

that saw me through the war.

You have been somebody to look up to,

for all of us.

Is that all, Herr Rolfe?

Yes.

Thank you.

Dr. Wieck, do you know the defendant,Ernst Janning?

Yes, I know him.

Will you tell us in what capacity?

We served in the Ministry of Justice together

from till .

Did you know him before that?

Yes.

He was a law student of mine.- Did you know him well?

- Yes.

- Was he a protg of yours?

- Yes.

Why?

He was always a man of great intelligence.

He was a man born with the qualities

of a great legal mind.

Would you tell usfrom your own experience...

the position of the judge in Germany

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prior to the advent of Adolf Hitler.

The position of the judge

was one of complete independence.

Now, would you describe

the contrast, if any...

after the coming to powerof National Socialism in ?

Judges became subject

to something outside of objective justice.

They became subject to what was necessary

for the protection of the country.

Would you explain this, please?

The first consideration of the judge...

became the punishment of acts

against the state...

rather than objective consideration

of the case.

And what other changes were there?

The right to appeal was eliminated.

The Supreme Court of the Reich

was replaced by...

People's and Special Courts.

The concept of racewas made a legal concept for the first time.

And what was the result of this?

The result?

The result was

to hand over the administration of justice...

into the hands of the dictatorship.

Now, Dr. Wieck...

Col. Lawson, I would liketo ask a few questions.

Did the judiciary protest these laws

abridging their independence?

A few of them did.

Those who did resigned,

or were forced to resign.

Others adapted themselves

to the new situation.

Do you think the judiciary was awareof the consequences to come?

At first, perhaps not.

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Later it became clear to anyone

who had eyes and ears.

Thank you.

Now, would you please describe for us

the changes in criminal law?

It was characterized by...an ever-increasing inflation

of the death penalty.

Sentences were passed

against defendants...

just because they were Poles, or Jews,

or politically undesirable.

Novel National Socialist measures

were introduced.

Among them...

sexual sterilization for those

who were categorized as asocial.

Did it become necessary for judges...

to wear any distinctive mark

on their robes in ?

The so-called Fuehrer's Decree...

required judges to wear the insignia

of the swastika on their robes.- Did you wear such an insignia?

- No.

I would have been ashamed to wear it.

Did you resign in ?

Yes, sir.

Did Ernst Janning wear a swastika

on his robe?

Yes.That's all. Thank you.

Herr Rolfe.

You used the phrase, "What was necessary

for the protection of the country."

Will you explain for the tribunal...

the conditions in Germany at the time

National Socialism came to power?

What conditions?

Would you saythere was widespread hunger?

Yes.

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Would you say there was internal disunity?

Yes.

Was there a Communist Party?

Yes.

Was it the third-largest party in Germany?

Yes.Would you say...

that National Socialism helped to cure

some of these conditions?

Yes, but at a terrible price...

Please confine yourself

to answering the questions only.

Therefore, was it not possible

that a judge might wear a swastika...

and yet work for what he thought was best

for his country?

No. It was not possible.

You were not in the administration...

from the years to ...

by your own admission.

Is it not possible

that your view of the administration...

might be distorted?No. It is not.

How can you testify about

what was going on in the administration...

if you were not there?

I had many friends

in the legal administration.

There were journals and books.

From journals and books?I see.

You referred to:

"Novel National Socialist

measures introduced...

"among them sexual sterilization."

Are you aware that sexual sterilization

was not invented by National Socialism...

but had been advanced for years before

as a weapon...in dealing with the mentally incompetent

and the criminal?

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Yes. I am aware of that.

Are you aware that it has advocates

among leading citizens in other countries?

I am not an expert on such laws.

Then permit me to read one to you.

This is a High Court opinion...upholding such laws in existence

in another country.

And I quote:

"We have seen more than once

that the public welfare...

"may call upon the best citizens

for their lives.

"It would be strange indeed,

if it could not call upon those...

"who already sapped the strength

of the state for these lesser sacrifices...

"in order to prevent our being swamped

by incompetence.

"It is better for all the world...

"if, instead of waiting to execute

degenerate offsprings for crime...

"or to let them starve for their imbecility,society can prevent their propagation...

"by medical means in the first place.

"Three generations of imbeciles

are enough."

Do you recognize it now, Dr. Wieck?

No, sir, I don't.

Actually, there is no particular reason

you should...since the opinion upholds

the sterilization law...

in the State of Virginia,

of the United States...

and was written and delivered

by that great American jurist...

Supreme Court Justice,

Oliver Wendell Holmes.

Now, Dr. Wieck.In view of what you have just learned...

can you still say that sexual sterilization

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was a novel National Socialist measure?

Yes, I can say it.

Because it was never before used

as a weapon against political opponents.

Do you personally know of a case...

where someone was sterilizedfor political reasons?

I know that such things were done.

That's not the question.

Please answer the question.

Do you know of a case?

I don't know of any specific case,

or specific date...

I am asking you if you have any firsthand,

personal knowledge of such a case!

No, I have no such personal knowledge.

Thank you.

You are aware of the charges

in the indictment against Ernst Janning?

Yes, I am.

Can you honestly say

he is responsible for them?

Yes, I can.Do you consider yourself

free of responsibility?

Yes, I do.

Did you ever swear

to the Civil Servant Loyalty Oath of ?

Your Honor, I object.

The witness doesn't have to answer

that question.He's not on trial.

All Germany is on trial, Your Honor.

This tribunal placed it on trial

when it placed Ernst Janning on trial.

If responsibility is to be found,

the widest latitude is to be permitted.

Objection overruled.

Did you ever swear

to the Civil Servant Loyalty Oath of ?Everyone did.

We are not interested in what everyone did.

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We are interested in what you did.

Would you read the oath

from the Reich Law Gazette, March, ?

"I swear that I shall be obedient...

"to the leader of the German Reich

and people, Adolf Hitler."That I shall be loyal to him,

that I will observe the laws...

"and that I will conscientiously

fulfill my duties...

"so help me God."

Everyone swore to it.

It was mandatory.

Yes.

But you're such a perceptive man, Dr. Wieck.

You could see what was coming.

You could see that National Socialism

was leading Germany to disaster.

"It was clear to anyone

who had eyes and ears."

Didn't you realize...

what it would have meant if you,

and men like you...would have refused to swear to the oath?

It would have meant that Hitler

could never have come to absolute power.

Why didn't you?

Why didn't you?

Can you give us an explanation?

Has it something to do with your pension?

Did your pension mean more to youthan your country?

Your Honor!

I object to the entire line of questioning,

and ask that it be stricken from the record.

I thought prosecuting counsel

was dedicated to finding responsibility.

Your Honor, I made an objection.

Prosecution is not interested

in finding responsibility?There is responsibility for more here

than swearing to a loyalty oath...

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- and you know it.

- There is indeed.

One thing that even the German machine,

with its monumental efficiency...

has been unable to destroy...

Order.All the victims.

More victims than the world has ever known.

- They will walk into this courtroom...

- Order!

This tribunal will admonish both counsel.

It will tolerate nothing of this kind again.

We're not here to listen to outbursts

of this kind, but to serve justice.

Your Honor, I made an objection.

The objection is overruled.

The witness is excused.

Did you ever read any books by Janning?

No, I don't think so.

- The Meaning of the Law.

- How is it? Interesting?

All the books by Janning are interesting.

They're more than that.They're a picture of an era,

its hopes, its aspirations.

They weren't very different from ours, really.

Listen to this, on the signing

of the Weimar constitution:

"Now we can look forward to a Germany

without guns and bloodshed...

"a Germany of justice,where men can live instead of die...

"a Germany of purpose,

of freedom, of humanity...

"a Germany that calls for the best in man."

Now, how could a man

who wrote words like these...

be part of sterilizations and murders?

How could he be?

There are a lot of things that happened herethat nobody understands.

I know.

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if you like.

Of course not.

Then I'll just take these out.

- Here.

- Thanks, Mrs. Halbestadt.

- Let me help you.- No. I can manage all right.

I'll take these outside. Please.

Good night.

It's heavy. It's full of books and pictures...

things that mean nothing to anyone but me.

- Mr. Schmidt?

- Your Honor.

Would you drive

Mrs. Bertholt home, please?

Yes, Your Honor.

- I hope you're comfortable here.

- Yes, I am. Very.

My favorite spot was always the garden.

Remind Mr. Halbestadt

to take good care of the rock garden.

You'll get a great deal of pleasure out of it

in summer.I'll sit in front, thank you.

- Good night.

- Good night.

- Karolinenstrasse please.

- Yes, madam.

Sit down.

You worked for Mrs. Bertholt, didn't you?

Yes, Your Honor.How long did she live here?

Madame Bertholt?

Madame Bertholt and her family have lived

here for many generations, Your Honor.

Thank you.

Your Honor, you came in here

for something?

I was just going to make myself a sandwich.

- We will make it for you.- No.

- We will make anything you want.

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- No. It's nothing.

I always used to do it for myself back home.

What would you like? I have some ham

and cheese and liverwurst.

Cheese will be fine.

That's very kind of you.What was it like,

living under National Socialism?

What was it like?

Yes. I mean, day to day?

You know, I know many people at home

like you.

You're good people. I believe that.

What was it like for you, living under Hitler?

We were not political.

Mr. Halbestadt and I are not political.

No, but...

you must have been aware of some

of the events that were going on.

Many things were going on.

There were parades.

Hitler and Goebbels came here every year.

What was it like?We never attended meetings. Never.

I'm not trying to put you on trial.

I'm just curious. I'd like to know.

- Here's your sandwich, Your Honor.

- Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

For instance,there was a place called Dachau...

which was not too many miles from here.

Did you ever know

what was going on there?

We knew nothing about it.

How can you ask

if we knew anything about that?

I'm sorry.

Your Honor, we are only little people.We lost a son in the army...

and our daughter in the bombing.

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During the war we almost starved.

It was terrible for us.

I'm sure it was.

Hitler did some good things.

I won't say he didn't do some good things.

He built the Autobahn.He gave more people work.

We won't say

he didn't do some good things.

But the other things...

the things they say he did to the Jews

and the rest...

we knew nothing about that.

Very few Germans did.

And if we did know...

what could we do?

But Mrs. Halbestadt said you didn't know.

Mrs. Bertholt. How did she react to all this?

Madame Bertholt is a very fine woman,

Your Honor.

I'm sure she is. What about her husband?

He was in the army.

What happened to him?He was one of the defendants

in the Malmedy Case.

General Bertholt. Karl Bertholt.

He was executed, Your Honor.

Yes, I know that.

The document then states that

the photographer, Rudolf Lenz...

is requested to present himselfwithin two weeks...

at one the hospitals mentioned below...

for medical treatment.

Next, prosecution presents

affidavit document no. ...

which concerns the seamstress,

Anni Meunch.

Document reads as follows:

"District Court, Frankfurt am Main,has decided the following:

"The seamstress, Anni Meunch,

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daughter of Wilhelm Meunch...

"is to be sterilized.

"She is therefore requested

to present herself within two weeks...

"at one of the hospitals mentioned below.

"If she does not take herself voluntarily..."she will be taken by force."

Next, document no. ...

interrogatories in the German

and English text...

concerning the farmer's helper,

Meyer Eichinger.

Your Honor...

defense objects to introduction

of these repetitive documents.

According to the ruling

of the first tribunal...

such documents are not even admissible...

unless supported by independent evidence

of their authenticity.

Objection sustained.

Your Honor,

may I ask the defense a question?Yes.

Would evidence on sterilization

be admissible if there were a witness?

- Yes.

- Thank you.

Prosecution calls the witness,

Rudolph Petersen.

Will you raise your right hand?I swear by God,

the Almighty and Omniscient...

that I will speak the pure truth

and withhold and add nothing.

I do.

Will you please tell the court your full name

and place of residence?

Rudolph Petersen.

Frankfurt am Main, Gratweg Nummer .When were you born, Mr. Petersen?

May .

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And what is your occupation?

I'm a baker's helper.

Are your parents living?

No.

What were the causes of their deaths?

Mr. Petersen, did they die of natural causes?Yeah, natural.

What political party

did your father belong to?

The Communist Party.

Now think back.

Do you remember anything unusual...

that happened to you and your family

in ...

before the Nazis came to power?

I mean, anything of a violent nature.

Yeah.

How old were you at the time?

Nineteen.

Would you please tell the court

what happened?

Some SA men broke into our house...

and they broke the windows and the door...and they called us traitors...

and they tried to beat up my father.

What happened then?

My brothers and I, we went to help him.

And there was a fight...

and finally we got them outside

in the street...

and we beat them up...and turned them over to the police.

Did the police do anything about it?

- No.

- Why not?

It was then...

at the time of the national elections.

You mean the time the National Socialists

came to power?

Yeah.What happened after ...

after the Nazis came to power?

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I got a job on a farm...

but for the work,

to drive a truck was necessary.

I went to the city building

to apply for a license.

And what happened there?They took me to an official.

Did you ever have any dealings

with this official before?

He was one of the men...

who broke into our house that night.

What did he say to your application?

He said an examination

there would have to be.

Where was the examination to take place?

In the district court of Stuttgart.

Who was the presiding justice in the court?

Justice Hoffstetter.

What happened in the courtroom?

They asked me my full name...

and so forth.

What else did they ask you?

They asked me when Adolf Hitlerand Dr. Goebbels were born.

What did you reply?

I told them I didn't know,

and also that I didn't care.

Did they ask you any more questions?

No. They told me that

I would be hearing from them in ten days.

I see. Now, Mr. Petersen...I'd like you to look at something.

Do you recognize it?

Yeah.

Would you please read it for the tribunal?

"District Court of Stuttgart.

"The baker, Rudolph Petersen,

born May ...

"son of railway employee, Hans Petersen...

"is to be sterilized."Now would you read the last paragraph?

"It is therefore requested...

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"he present himself within two weeks...

"to one of the hospitals mentioned below.

"If he does not...

"betake himself voluntarily...

"he will be taken by force."

Please read the signature at the bottom."Presiding Justice Hoffstetter."

Would you read

what is written below the signature?

- Below?

- Below.

"By authority of...

"Ernst Janning...

"Minister of Justice."

Your Honor...

may the defense see the file

of Mr. Petersen?

What did you do

after you received the letter, Mr. Petersen?

I ran away.

I stayed at the farm of a friend I have.

And did you return?

- Did I what?- Did you return?

Yes.

And what happened then?

The police came.

Where did they take you?

To the hospital.

Mr. Petersen, excuse me.

I wonder if you could speaka little louder, please.

To the hospital.

And what happened at the hospital?

They kept me there.

The nurse who was...

Well, she came in, anyway.

She was to prepare me for the operation.

And she said

she thought the whole thing was terrible.Then the doctor came in

who was supposed to do the...

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And he said he thought it was awful.

Were you, in fact, sterilized?

Thank you very much, Mr. Petersen.

That's all.

Herr Rolfe?

Mr. Petersen...you may take your earphones off now,

if you want to.

You say you work as a baker's helper?

Is that correct?

Yes, that is right.

What other occupations have you held?

I have worked for my father.

What did your father do?

He was a railroad worker.

Yes, but what did he do?

He would raise and lower the barrier...

at the crossing, for traffic.

And you spoke about your brothers.

How many brothers do you have?

Five.

And sisters?

Four.- Then you are a family of ten?

- Yes.

What occupations do your brothers have?

Laborers.

All laborers? I see.

You said the court at Stuttgart

asked you two questions:

The birth dates of Hitler and Dr. Goebbels.Is that correct?

Yes, correct.

What else did they ask you?

Nothing else.

Are you sure?

Are you sure there were no questions

about your schooling?

Objection!

The witnesshas already answered that question.

Objection sustained.

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May I ask you...

how long did you attend school?

Six years.

Six years? Why not longer?

I had to go to work.

Would you consider yourselfa very bright fellow at school?

School?

It was a long while ago. I don't...

Perhaps you were not able to keep up

with the others...

and that's why you did not continue?

Objection, Your Honor.

The witness' school record has nothing

to do with what happened to him.

It was the task of the Health Court

to sterilize the mentally incompetent.


Were you able, or were you not able...

to keep up with the others?

I would like to refer to the efficiency report

made at the school about Mr. Petersen.

He failed to be promoted, andwas placed in a class of backward children.

You say your parents died of natural causes.

Yes.

Would you describe in detail

the illness your mother died of?

She died of her heart.

In the last stages of her illness,

did your mother...show any mental peculiarities?

No.

In the decision that came down

from Stuttgart...

it is stated that your mother suffered

from hereditary feeble-mindedness.

That is not true!

Can you give us some clarification...

as to how the Hereditary Health Courtin Stuttgart arrived at that decision?

It was just something they said

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to put me on the operating table.

- It was just something they said?

- Yes.

Mr. Petersen, there was a simple test...

that the Health Court used to ask

in all cases of mental incompetence.Since you say they did not ask you then...

perhaps you can answer it for us now.

Form a sentence out of the words

"Hare," "Hunter," "Field."

Your Honor, objection.

Was the court in Stuttgart

constituted like this one?

I don't understand what...

Was there an audience?

An audience? Yes.

Thank you.


"Hare," "Hunter," "Field."

Take your time.

They had already made up...

When I walked into the court,

they had made up their minds.They put me in the hospital, like a criminal.

I could not say anything.

I could not do anything.

I had to lay there.

My mother...

what you say about her...

She was a woman,

a servant woman who worked hard.She was a hardworking woman...

and it is not fair what you say.

Here.

I want to show you. I have here her picture.

I would like you to look at it.

I would like you to judge.

I want that you tell me...

was she feeble-minded?

My mother!Was she feeble-minded?

Was she?

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I feel it is my duty

to point out to the tribunal...

that the witness is not in control

of his mental processes.

I know I am not. Since that day.

I've been half I've ever been.The tribunal does not know

how you were before.

It can never know.

It has only your word.

Court is adjourned.

That's one problem we have

with the prosecution.

It's filled with young radicals like Lawson.

Is that what Lawson is? A young radical?

He was a personal protg of FDR.

FDR had a few friends who weren't radicals,

didn't he?

Name one.

Wendell Wilkie.

Is he your idea of a conservative?

As a matter of fact, Dan,

I've been wondering how you stand.I'll clarify that for you, Curtiss.

I'm a rock-ribbed Republican...

who thought that Franklin Roosevelt

was a great man.

One of those?

Max!

- Max Perkins. You know him?

- No, I don't think so.He's with the United Press.

Max, what are you doing here?

I thought you might kick up a row

or something.

I haven't had that much to drink.

- I'm sorry, this is Judge Ives.

- Hello.

- Mrs. Ives.

- How do you do?- How do you do?

- Judge Haywood, Mrs. Bertholt.

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- We have met.

- Yes, we have.

Won't you join us for a drink?

We would like to very much.

- Max, will you sit here?

- Thank you.Incidentally, Max, I admired your article

on Mrs. Bertholt very much.

It was straight reporting.

Her defense of her husband

was quite eloquent.

Are you going to do a story on these trials?

I'll tell you something frankly, Judge.

At the moment, I couldn't give a story away

on the Nuremberg Trials.

What do you mean, Mr. Perkins?

The American public

just isn't interested anymore.

But the war's only been over

two years, Mr. Perkins.

That's right.

- May I take your order?

- Yes. See what the ladies will have.How about some more beer, Dan?

No. I think I've had my fill of beer.

I'd like to try something else, if I may.

Why don't you try some Sonnenberg,

or Schwalbenwinkel? It's the local wine.

- Sonnenberg or...

- Schwalbenwinkel.

Yes, I think I'd like that.Some Schweissenwinkel.

- Will you have some?

- Yes, thank you. I'll have the same.

- Should we stay with the beer, Max?

- Fine.

Thank you.

- You got home all right the other night?

- Yes, thank you.

I don't know what I would have donewithout the car.

You speak English very well, Mrs. Bertholt.

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Thank you. My husband and I

spent three years in America.

I hope you had a chance

to see something of Nuremberg.

I'm afraid mainly the road between my house

and the Palace of Justice.And then some places that have to do

with the case, the historical aspects.

The Nazi aspects.

You should see some of the other parts

of Nuremberg.

There are many beautiful things to see

in the old part of town.

Museums we're trying to rebuild.

And there's a concert, a piano concert

next week at the old opera house.

Arthur Reiss. He was a refugee from Hitler

in the early days.

We've persuaded him to come back.

It ought to be quite an evening.

Would you like to come?

Yes, I would.

I'll tell them to leave a ticket for youat the box office. I'm on the committee.

- Thank you very much, Mrs. Bertholt.

- It's nothing.

You see, I have a mission with

the Americans, as Mr. Perkins can tell you.

What is that?

To convince you that we're not all monsters.

- Good evening, Colonel.- Good evening.

Colonel. Maj. Radnitz.

Good evening, Mrs. Bertholt.

I hope you'll excuse me.

But you've just come...

No, I must go. Please excuse me.

It was awfully nice meeting you.

If you want to hear the concert,

there'll be a ticket for you at the box office.- Thank you.

- Good night.

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- Good night.

- Good night, Mrs. Bertholt.

Mrs. Bertholt doesn't hold

a burning passion for me.

I prosecuted her husband.

There are many peoplewho think a death sentence...

would not have been passed

against Gen. Bertholt today.

I'm sure there are.

I'm sure there are people who think...

all the prisoners in Nuremberg

should be free today.

All of them. Let...

Excuse me.

I've had one or two too many...

as might be painfully obvious

to you gentlemen.

The spectacle this afternoon with

Mr. Petersen put me off my feed. I'm sorry.

Three beers and Schwalbenwinkel, please.

Schwalbenwinkel.

It's good beer.They make it good in this country.

You know, there's one thing

about Americans.

We're not cut out to be occupiers.

We're new at it. We're not very good at it.

We come over here, and what do we see?

We see this beautiful country.

It is beautiful. It's very beautiful.We see the culture that goes back

for hundreds of years.

We see its gemutlich charm...

and the charm of people like Mrs. Bertholt.

We've got a built-in inferiority complex.

We forgive and forget easy.

We give the other guy

the benefit of the doubt.

That's the American way.We beat the greatest war machine

since Alexander the Great.

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And now the boy scouts take over.

The trouble with you, Colonel,

is you'd like to indict the whole country.

That might be emotionally satisfying

to you...

but it wouldn't be exactly practical,and hardly fair.

Hardly fair?

"Hare."

"Hunter."

"Field."

That's right, let's be fair.

"The hare was shot by the hunter

in the field."

It's really quite simple.

Colonel, I think we ought to be going.

Yes, we really shouldn't be discussing this.

No, Judge.

We're fair Americans, and true-blue.

We mustn't do anything that's out of order.

No, sir. We can't do anything

that's out of order.

There are no Nazis in Germany.Didn't you know that, Judge?

The Eskimos invaded Germany

and took over.

That's how

all those terrible things happened.

It wasn't the fault of the Germans.

It was the fault of those damn Eskimos.

Excuse me.- Good night, Colonel.

- Good night.

Can I have your attention, please?

I'm sorry to interrupt your dancing.

The following officers

are requested to report to their units.

Maj. McCarthy, Maj. Citron,

Maj. Cantor, Capt. Byers...

Capt. Connell, Capt. Douglas, Capt. Wolfe...Maj. Booth, and Maj. Rice.

Thank you. You can continue dancing.

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Harry, what is it?

The Russians have made their move

in Czechoslovakia.

It's rumored Masaryk committed suicide.

We're sending units up.

What do you think's going to happen?I don't know.

Judge Haywood...

Elsa Scheffler.

"President Truman responded to the crisis...

"by calling for an extension

of military training.

"He stated that he is deeply concerned

with the survival of the Western nations...

"in face of the threat from the East."

"Threat from the East."

Herr Janning, did you hear this?

Did you hear what's in the paper?

Exactly what Hitler said.

"The clash for survival

between East and West."

He knew!

They'll see that we knew exactlywhat we were doing all the time.

They cannot call us criminals,

and at the same time ask us to help them.

We must stand together now.

The most crucial part of this case

is coming up.

We have fallen on happy times, Herr Hahn.

In old times it would have made your dayif I'd deigned to say good morning to you.

Now that we are here

in this place together...

you feel obliged to tell me

what to do with my life.

Herr Janning, you must stand with us.

It is not good for Germans

to turn on one another.

We have a common ground now.Listen to me, Herr Hahn.

There have been terrible things

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that have happened to me in my life.

But the worst thing

that has ever happened...

is to find myself

in the company of men like you.

I have nothing in common with youand Party hacks like you.

You have something in common.

You were part of that same regime.

You stood by that regime,

the same as the rest of us.

And there's something else

you have in common.

You are a German.

Good evening. Did you like it?

Yes, I did. Very much indeed.

Can I drop you?

I only live a few blocks from here.

I was going to walk.

Would you like to go for a walk?

Yes, I would.

I won't need the car now.

I'll walk with Mrs. Bertholt.- Shall I wait for you, Your Honor?

- That won't be necessary.

I'll wait for you, Your Honor.

The German people love to sing,

no matter what the situation.

I've noticed that.

Do American people sing in bars, too?

I have forgotten.No. We're apt to be pretty sullen in bars.

I wish you understood German.

The words are very beautiful.

Very sad.

Much sadder than the English words.

The German soldier knows

he's going to lose his girl...

and his life.

The lantern burns every night.It knows the steps...

and the way you walk.

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It burns every night,

but I've been long forgotten.

Should harm come to me...

who will stand with you...

under the lantern?

With you, Lili Marleen.What is your life like in America?

Do you have a family?

Yes, I have a daughter,

and she has four children.

Four? You must be very proud of them.

Yes, I am. I admit it.

- And where's your wife?

- She died a few years ago.

- How about you? Do you have children?

- No, I don't.

What is your position in America?

It must be important.

No, it isn't, really. I'm a District Court Judge.

I haven't even been that for the last year.

Are you retired?

Forcibly, by the electorate.

You elect judges in the United States?- Yes, in some states.

- I didn't know that.

It's either one of the virtues

or one of the defects of our judicial system.

I thought it was one of the virtues

until last year, when I was defeated.

I'm sure it was the fault

of the electorate, not yours.Seems to be some difference of opinion

about that.

This is where I live.

- Here?

- Yes. It's not so bad inside.

Would you like to come up?

I could make some coffee.

Yes, thank you.

Things haven't been very easy for you,have they?

I'm not used to them being easy.

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I'm not fragile, Judge Haywood.

I'm a daughter of the military.

You know what that means, don't you?

No, I'm afraid I don't.

It means I was taught discipline.

A very special kind of discipline.For instance, when I was a child...

we used to go for long rides

into the country in summertime.

But I was never allowed to run

to the lemonade stand with the others.

I was told, "Control your thirst.

"Control hunger.

"Control emotion."

It has served me well.

And your husband?

Was he of that heritage, too?

My husband was a soldier.

He was brought up to do one thing:

To fight in the battle, and fight well.

- Is the coffee all right?

- Fine, thank you.

It's ersatz, but I always try to make it strong.It's fine.

I'm curious.

What do you think of Ernst Janning?

I really am not at liberty to discuss the case

outside of the courtroom.

Yes, of course.

I knew Ernst Janning a little.

We used to attend the same concerts.I remember there was a reception given

for Wagner's daughter-in-law.

Hitler was there.

Ernst Janning was there with his wife.

She was very beautiful...

very small, very delicate.

She's dead now.

Hitler was quite taken with her.

He made advances towards herduring the reception.

He used to do things like that

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in a burst of emotion.

I will never forget

the way Ernst Janning cut him down.

I don't think anybody ever did it

to him quite that way.

He said, "Chancellor..."I do not object so much

that you are so ill-mannered.

"I do not object to that so much.

"I object that you are such a bourgeois."

Hitler whitened, stared at Janning,

and walked out.

- Is the coffee really all right?

- Fine, thank you.

Men like Janning...

my husband and I...

we hated Hitler. I want you to know that.

And he hated us.

He hated my husband

because he was a real war hero...

and the little corporal couldn't tolerate that.

And he hated him

because he married into nobility...which was my family.

Hitler was in awe of the nobility,

but he hated it.

That's why it's so ironic, what happened.

You know what happened to my husband,

don't you?

Yes.

What did he know of the crimesthey cited him for?

He was placed on trial

with the other military leaders.

It was part of their revenge.

The victors always take on the vanquished.

It was political murder.

You can see that, can't you?

Mrs. Bertholt, I don't know what I see.

I probably shouldn't be heretalking with you about this at all.

But I want to understand.

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I do want to understand.

I have to.

Would you like some more coffee?

Yes, thank you.

Hi.

We found Irene Hoffman.- Where?

- Berlin.

Berlin, eh?

She got married. Her name is Wallner now.

That's why we had difficulty locating her.

- When is she coming?

- She's not coming.

What do you mean, she's not coming?

She doesn't want to come.

You know what it's like.

None of them want to testify anymore.

If I catch the midnight...

I could make it to Berlin,

and be back by tomorrow afternoon.

- Tad, you haven't had any sleep...

- It'll be worth it if I can get Hoffman.

Take over for me in courtin the morning, will you?

Colonel, please!

I told you before, when you first came in.

I say it again now.

We are through with all this.

She does not have to go,

you have no right to order her to go.

Mr. Wallner, I'm not ordering her to go.I have no authority to order her to go.

Do you think we get a medal

for appearing at these trials?

The people do not like them.

They do not believe that Germans

should testify against other Germans.

I haven't been prosecuting these cases

for the past two years without knowing that.

It is easy for you to say go.After the trial you will go back to America,

but we must stay and live with these people.

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Don't you think I realize what I'm asking?

Then how can you come in like the Gestapo,

in the middle of the night...

Because they must not be allowed

to get away with what they did.

You really think they won't get away with itin the end?

I say the hell with them,

and the hell with you.

Hugo.

Emil Hahn will be there?

Yes. In the dock.

Ernst Janning?

Yes.

You saw the store downstairs.

It's not much...

but it's a new start for us.

They will come if I go to Nuremberg.

They will come...

and break the windows of the store.

I'll place a guard in front of the store,

hours a day.

You do not have to go.He has no right to ask you to go.

You do have to go.

You have to go, for all those people

who can't get up on the stand themselves.

- You do not owe it to anybody!

- Yes, you do!

You owe it to one person, at least.

In the night...every night...

we've known somehow

it would come to this.

Dr. Geuter, do you recognize that headline?

Yes, sir.

Would you read it to the tribunal?

"Death to the race defiler."

In what newspaper did it appear?

In Julius Streicher's Der Sturmer.What was it in connection with?

The Feldenstein case.

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What was the Feldenstein case?

Your Honor...

defense objects

to the introduction of the Feldenstein case.

It is a notorious case,

perhaps the most notorious of the period.It has overtones, and appeals to emotion...

that would perhaps be best not raised.

There are no issues or overtones

that may not be raised in this courtroom.

The tribunal is interested in everything

that is relevant.

Objection is overruled.

It's all right. I'll take it.

May it please the tribunal?

- You may continue.

- Thank you.

Now.

What was the Feldenstein case?

The case of a man

accused of racial pollution.

Will you explain what is meant

by "racial pollution"?This is the charge

that is referred to in the Nuremberg Laws.

It says that any non-Aryan

having sexual relations with an Aryan...

may be punished by death.

When did you first become acquainted

with the Feldenstein case?

In September I was contacted by the police.They said that Mr. Feldenstein

was being held...

and that he requested

that I serve as his counselor.

What position did he hold

in the community?

He was a very well-known merchant.

He was one of the heads

of the Jewish congregation in Nuremberg.What was the nature of the charge

against him?

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He was accused

of having intimate relations...

with a -year-old girl, Irene Hoffman.

I see.

And what did he say to you about the case?

He said it was false.He said he knew the girl and her family

a long time.

He'd gone to visit her since they died.

But there had never been anything

of the kind charged between them.

Doctor, would you please tell the tribunal

what happened then?

He was indicted before

the special court at Nuremberg.

And where was this special court?

It was right here, this building.

This very courtroom.

What were the circumstances

surrounding the trial?

It was used as a show place

for National Socialism.

It was the timeof the September celebrations...

the Nuremberg rallies.

The courtroom was crowded.

Back there, people were standing up.

Julius Streicher was sitting

in one of the front seats.

And high officials of the Nazi Party

were all over.Would you please tell us...

what were your expectations for the trial

in this climate?

I expected the worst...

when I saw...

that Emil Hahn was the public prosecutor.

He was a fanatic.

His trials were always marked

by extreme brutality.But I had one hope for the outcome...

because sitting on the judge's bench...

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was Ernst Janning.

His reputation

was known throughout Germany.

He was known

to have dedicated his life to justice.

To the concept of justice.Thank you. That's all.

Any questions?

Thank you. No questions.

The witness is excused.

The prosecution calls to the stand...

Irene Hoffman Wallner.

Will you raise your right hand?

I swear by God,


that I will speak the pure truth,

and will withhold and add nothing.

I do.

Will you please state your name

to the tribunal?

Irene Hoffman Wallner.

Mrs. Wallner...

did you know Lehman Feldenstein?Yes.

When did you first meet him?

It was or .

I am not sure exactly.

How old was he at this time?

He was in his s.

And how old was he

at the time of his arrest?He was .

I see.

What was the nature of your relationship?

We were friends.

Did you continue to see him

after your parents died?

- Yes.

- Why?

We were friends.He owned the building that I lived in.

His business took him there quite often.

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What did you say to the police

when they questioned you...

about having intimate relations with him?

I told them it was a lie.

Could you tell me

who the public prosecutor was?Emil Hahn.

Did Emil Hahn question you?

Yes.

What did he say to you?

He took me into a separate room,

where we were alone.

He told me that it was no use...

to repeat my story...

because no one would believe me.

There had been a race defilement...

and the only pardon for this was...

to kill the violator.

He told me that if I protected...

Mr. Feldenstein...

that I would be held under arrest for perjury.

What did you reply to him?

I told him what I had said again and again.I told him that I could not say anything else.

I could not lie about someone

who had been so kind to me.

Were you held under arrest?

Yes.

Mrs. Wallner, tell us...

what was the...

the manner in which Emil Hahnconducted the prosecution?

He made a mockery...

of everything Mr. Feldenstein tried to say

in his own defense.

He held him up to ridicule

whenever possible.

What was the reaction of the audience?

They laughed.

Again and again.How long did the trial last?

Two days.

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Was the verdict passed

at the end of the second day?

Yes.

What was the verdict?

Guilty.

And what was the sentence?Mr. Feldenstein was sentenced...

to be executed.

I was sentenced to be imprisoned

for two years, for perjury.

Who was the presiding judge?

Ernst Janning.

Were the sentences carried out?

Thank you very much, Mrs. Wallner.

That's all.

Any questions?

Your Honor, I would like to request

that the witness...

be kept available.

We will present further evidence

on the Feldenstein matter...

when it comes time for the defense

to present its case.The witness will please hold herself

so available.

You may go. You're excused now.

Col. Lawson?

Your Honors...

I offer in evidence a decree

signed by Adolf Hitler...

directing all persons accused...or suspected of disloyalty

or resistance of any sort...

might be arrested secretly...

with no notice to friends or relatives,

without any trial whatsoever...

and put into concentration camps.

I also offer a group of orders

issued under that decree...

each one signed by one of the defendants...by which hundreds of persons were arrested

and placed in concentration camps.

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Signed by Friedrich Hoffstetter...

Werner Lammpe...

Emil Hahn...

Ernst Janning.

Your Honors...

the defendants on trial here today...did not personally administer

the concentration camps.

They never had to beat victims...

or pull the lever that released gas

into the chambers.

But as the documents we've introduced

into this case have shown...

these defendants fashioned

and executed laws...

and rendered judgments...

which sent millions of victims to their...

destinations.

Maj. Radnitz?

Your Honors, I would like to request that

Col. Lawson be sworn in as a witness.

- Granted.

- Thank you.Will you raise your right hand?

I swear by God,


that I will speak the pure truth

and withhold and add nothing.

I do.

Were you active in the United States Army

in at the close of the war?Yes, I was.

Were you in command of troops

liberating concentration camps?

I was.

Were you in Dachau and Belsen?

Yes.

Were you present when the films

we are about to see were taken?

Yes, I was.Okay.

The map shows the number of

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and location of concentration camps...

under the Third Reich.

The Buchenwald concentration camp

was founded...

in .

Its inmates numbered about .There was a motto at Buchenwald:

"Break the body...

"break the spirit...

"break the heart."

The ovens at Buchenwald.

Evidence of last-minute efforts

to dispose of bodies.

The stoves were manufactured

by a well-known company...

which also specialized in baking ovens.

The name of the firm is clearly inscribed.

An exhibit of byproducts of Buchenwald...

displayed for the local townspeople

by an Allied officer.

Brushes of every description.

Shoes, adults and children.

Spectacles.Gold from teeth melted down...

sent once a month

to the Medical Department of the...

Waffen-SS.

A lampshade made from human skin.

Skin being used for paintings...

many having an obscene nature.

The heads of two Polish laborers...shrunken to one-fifth their normal size.

A human pelvis used as an ashtray.

Children who'd been tattooed to mark them

for eventual extermination.

Sometimes mercy was shown

to the children.

They were injected with morphia...

so they'd be unconscious when hanged.

One of the doctors described how they'dthen place ropes around their necks...

and in the doctor's own words:

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"Like pictures...

"they were then hanged

by hooks on the walls."

The bodies of those

who had come in boxcars...

without food and without air...who hadn't survived the journey to Dachau.

Hundreds of inmates were used

as human guinea pigs...

for atrocious medical experiments.

A witness at one of the executions

at Dachau gave the following description:

"Inmates were made to leave

their clothing on a rack.

"They were told they were going

to take baths.

"Then the doors were locked.

"Tins of Zyklon B...

"were released through

the specially constructed apertures.

"You could hear the groaning

and the whimpering inside.

"After two or three minutes..."all was quiet."

Death transports that had arrived

included from Slovakia...

from Greece...

from France...

from Holland...

from Hungary...

from Poland and Upper Silesia...and from Germany.

And this is what was filmed when...

British troops liberated

Belsen concentration camp.

For sanitary reasons...

a British bulldozer had to bury the bodies

as quickly as possible.

Who were the bodies?

Members of every occupied countryof Europe.

Two-thirds of the Jews of Europe...

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exterminated.

More than six million...

according to reports

from the Nazis' own figures.

But the real figure...

no one knows.How dare they show us those films?

How dare they?

We are not executioners. We are judges.

You do not think it was like that, do you?

There were executions, yes.

But nothing like that. Nothing at all.

Pohl!

You ran those concentration camps.

You and Eichmann.

They say we killed millions of people.

Millions of people.

How could it be possible?

Tell them. How could it be possible?

It's possible.

How?

You mean, technically?

It all depends on your facilities.Say you have two chambers

that accommodate people apiece.

Figure it out.

It's possible to get rid of in a half-hour.

You don't even need guards to do it.

You can tell them

they are going to take a shower...

and then instead of the water,you turn on the gas.

It's not the killing that is the problem.

It's disposing of the bodies.

That's the problem.

- I'm sorry I'm late.

- That's all right.

I was doing some work

for the rebuilding committee.

And I brought you some folders,so we can decide what you should see next.

There's the Albrecht Durer house,

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and the museum.

When do you think you could make it?

Anytime.

Would you like to order now?

What would you like?

Can I help you with the menu?No. I don't think I'll have anything.

Thank you.

A glass of Moselle for me, please.

The same.

What's the matter?

Nothing. I'm just not hungry, that's all.

The last few days

have meant a great deal to me.

How?

I don't think you realize

what a provincial man I really am.

I've been abroad

just exactly once before this...

and that was when I was a doughboy

in WWI.

I used to pass places like this

and wonder what they were like.- They've meant a great deal to me, too.

- How?

They gave me back the feeling

I had of the Americans.

The feeling I used to have

when I was in your country.

- Too bad this isn't a magazine story.

- Why?If it were a magazine story,

two people like us, the rapidly aging jurist...

The rapidly aging jurist

and the beautiful widow...

would transcend their difficulties

and travel places...

either by land or by sea.

I saw Mr. Perkins today.

He told me they'd showed those p

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