IEEE/Industry Applications Society/Technical Book Coordinating Committee Protection & Coordination Working Group (IAS/TBCC/3004 WG) P3004.8 “Recommended Practice for Motor Protection in Industrial and Commercial Power Systems” Working Group Meeting Wednesday, September 5, 2012 – Houston, TX Approved Minutes November 5, 2012 Issued October 5, 2012 Chair Lorraine Padden called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. on September 5, 2012, at Schneider-Electric in Houston, TX. Agenda: Meeting agenda was approved. Meeting Attendees: (See Attachment) Attendees were introduced in person and on the WEB/telecon and attendance was taken. IEEE Patent Slides The IEEE Patent Slides were reviewed. Minutes This was the first meeting of the Working Group, no prior minutes. PAR Scope, Purpose and Schedule The Par Scope, Purpose and Schedule were reviewed. The Scope has been defined by the Technical Book Coordinating Committee; and basically, it is Chapter 10 of the Buff Book, IEEE 242-2001. The PAR is valid through December 2014; therefore, the Working Group ballot should be in spring 2014. Expected meeting schedules: April 2013 at I&CPS – Atlanta June 2013 first part – September 2013 first part – November 2013 first part – Old Business There was no old business. New Business IEEE mentor site The new IEEE mentor site was discussed. It will become a part of the Working Group activity. See two attachments 1) 3004.8 mentor site “join group”, “documents”, “ePolls, etc. for Working Group 2) 3004.8 myProject “manage activity profile” for “invitation to ballot” Anyone interested in this Working Group activity should be signed up for both mentor 3004.8 and myProject 3004.8.
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IEEE/Industry Applications Society/Technical Book Coordinating Committee
Protection & Coordination Working Group (IAS/TBCC/3004 WG)
P3004.8 “Recommended Practice for Motor Protection in Industrial and Commercial
Power Systems”
Working Group Meeting Wednesday, September 5, 2012 – Houston, TX
Approved Minutes November 5, 2012
Issued October 5, 2012
Chair Lorraine Padden called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. on September 5, 2012, at Schneider-Electric in Houston, TX. Agenda: Meeting agenda was approved. Meeting Attendees: (See Attachment) Attendees were introduced in person and on the WEB/telecon and attendance was taken. IEEE Patent Slides The IEEE Patent Slides were reviewed. Minutes This was the first meeting of the Working Group, no prior minutes. PAR Scope, Purpose and Schedule The Par Scope, Purpose and Schedule were reviewed. The Scope has been defined by the Technical Book Coordinating Committee; and basically, it is Chapter 10 of the Buff Book, IEEE 242-2001. The PAR is valid through December 2014; therefore, the Working Group ballot should be in spring 2014. Expected meeting schedules:
April 2013 at I&CPS – Atlanta
June 2013 first part –
September 2013 first part –
November 2013 first part – Old Business There was no old business. New Business IEEE mentor site The new IEEE mentor site was discussed. It will become a part of the Working Group activity. See two attachments
1) 3004.8 mentor site “join group”, “documents”, “ePolls, etc. for Working Group 2) 3004.8 myProject “manage activity profile” for “invitation to ballot”
Anyone interested in this Working Group activity should be signed up for both mentor 3004.8 and myProject 3004.8.
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IEEE/Industry Applications Society/Technical Book Coordinating Committee
Protection & Coordination Working Group (IAS/TBCC/3004 WG)
P3004.8 “Recommended Practice for Motor Protection in Industrial and Commercial
Power Systems”
Working Group Meeting Wednesday, September 5, 2012 – Houston, TX
3004.8 Draft Development The Table of Contents was reviewed. The sections of the Draft were reviewed. Volunteers for Task Group leaders and reviewers/writers were noted in each section of the latest draft. The latest draft (showing task groups) will be posted to the mentor web site area for 3004.8. Other items discussed are below:
References – consider footnotes or endnotes for old document, or possible Table (annex).
Low voltage 1000 V; conforms with NEC proposals.
Reference for Red Book, talk with Peter Sutherland for new standard locations.
NEMA MG-1 latest 2011
Base Book – TBCC- Chapter 2, Clause 2.2.1.8 (draft) Medium Voltage reference up to 34.5 kV as medium voltage.
Multifunction – anit-reversal feature can lockout the system (consider a note). Program the thermal limit curves; smart relays that learn the curves.
Convention: Put kW in main text and (hp) next to the kW value.
If allowed, put NEMA reference on mentor site for ASD applications. Next Meeting The next meeting will be on November 5, 2012 at Schneider-Electric, Houston, TX. (Morning session – multifunction devices; afternoon session – ASD applications). The Meeting adjourned at 3:40 p.m. Lorraine K. Padden, Chair, IEEE P3004.8 Attachment: Meeting Attendees, mentor information, myProject information
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NameE-mail (this is public information unless noted otherwise) Company Company Affiliation (if different) Designation
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Working Group OfficersPadden, Lorraine [email protected] Padden Engineering, LLC Padden Engineering, LLC Chair, Voting Member X
Working Group MembershipAbdel Khalek, Mohamed [email protected] PGESCo PGESCoArcega, F [email protected] Universidad de Zaragoza University of ZaragozaBagby, Adam
[email protected] LSW Engineers Arizona, Inc. LSW EngineersBaird, Gregory [email protected] Jones & Carter, Inc. Jones & Carter, Inc. Aspirant Member EBapat, Ashvin
[email protected] Electric Company (GE)
General Electric Company (GE)
Voting Member
WebBasu, Partha [email protected] ExxonMobil ExxonMobilBavishi, Smit [email protected] Hatch Mott MacDonald Hatch Mott MacDonaldBelayneh, Sirak [email protected] Addis Tech DC Water Voting Member WebBondeur, Michael [email protected] Elektro-Consuling Elektro-ConsultingBoyce, Christina [email protected] Mentor Staff, Editor
Bredhold, Robert David [email protected] Eaton Corporation Eaton Corporation Voting Member WebBryan, James [email protected]
ppAssociation
ppAssociation Voting Member X
Cardinal, Paul [email protected] Shell Global Solutions Inc. Shell Global Solutions Inc. Voting Member XCarroll, James [email protected] Kelly Services, Inc. On
assignment to the Dow Chemical Company IEEE Member / Self
Aspirant Member
WebElgueta, Cristian [email protected] SG SCM SG SCMFox, Gary
[email protected] Electric Company (GE)
General Electric Company (GE)
Franklin, Jerry [email protected] Engineers, Inc. Engineers, Inc. Voting Member WebGroves, Randall [email protected]
y yDistrict
y yDistrict
Hemmer, Michael [email protected] WorleyParsons Group Self-funded Aspirant Member
Hensley, Jeffrey [email protected] Freese and Nichols, Inc Freese and Nichols, Inc Voting Member WebHeron, Chris [email protected]
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gCompany Voting Member X
Hietpas, Scott [email protected] ExxonMobil ExxonMobil Aspirant Member EHinchliffe, David [email protected] Exelon Corporation Exelon Corporation Voting Member WebHohrein, Byron [email protected]
JAIN, MAYANK [email protected] Steel Authority of India IEEE Member / SelfKay, John [email protected] Rockwell Automation Rockwell AutomationKim, Sangyoun [email protected] Bechtel Corporation Bechtel Corporation Aspirant Member EKloba, Theodore [email protected] CDM Smith CDM Smith Aspirant Member ELarsen, Ed [email protected] Schneider Electric Schneider Electric Voting Member WebLeschert, Duane [email protected] WorleyParsons, Ltd. WorleyParsons, Ltd. Aspirant Member ELinenbrink, Timothy
[email protected] American Engineering, PLLC
Lord, Jeffrey [email protected] Siemens Industry, Inc. Siemens Industry, Inc.Marchini, Gregory [email protected] Mentor Staff, Editor
Mcalhaney Jr, John [email protected]
Mcconnell, Michael [email protected] Shermco Industries, Inc. Shermco Industries, Inc.Moawad, Mohamed [email protected] Saudi Binladin Group Saudi Binladin Group Voting Member WebMoeller, Paul [email protected] Mentor Staff
Mohd Saad, Ahmad [email protected] PETRONAS PETRONASNeeser, Daniel [email protected] Cooper Bussmann, Inc. Cooper Bussmann, Inc. Voting Member WebNeubauer, Arthur [email protected] Arseal Technologies Arseal Technologies Aspirant Member
O'Hearn, Timothy [email protected] Voting Member WebOstojic, Pero Aspirant Member WebPerry, Lisa [email protected] Admin, Editor,
Ransom, Daniel Leland [email protected] Basler Electric Company Basler Electric Company Voting Member WebRaza, Shoukat [email protected]
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Attendance 9/5/2012
Serna Calvo, Eva Teresa [email protected] Siemens Industry, Inc. IEEE Member / SelfSharma, Pankaj [email protected] Bantrel BantrelSingh, Manish [email protected] Suzlon Energy Ltd. Suzlon Energy Limited Voting Member WebSpence, Louis [email protected] Lee County Electric Coop
(LCEC)Lee County Electric Coop (LCEC)
Stewart, Bill [email protected]
Strang Jr, Douglas [email protected] S & S ENGINEERING, P.C. S & S ENGINEERING, P.C.Teh, Liang Hean [email protected] Siemens self fundedVerma, Sunil [email protected] Sinclair Knight Merz Sinclair Knight Merz Voting Member WebVira, Azim [email protected] Orbis Engineering Orbis EngineeringWoolf, Alan [email protected] The Boeing Company Boeing Company Voting Member Web
SponsorRasheek Rifaat [email protected] Jacobs Engineering WG 3004 Chair, Observer
Carey Cook [email protected] S&C TBCC Chair, Observer
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